In The City Reunion Part 1: Amanda Breaks Down & Kenny vs. Lindsay Explodes

In The City Reunion Part 1: Amanda Breaks Down & Kenny vs. Lindsay Explodes

Summary – In The City Season 1 Reunion Part 1

The In The City reunion kicks off with plenty of celebrations as several cast members announce pregnancies, including Yvonne and Nick, Danielle and Eoin, and Andre and Lexi. The lighthearted opening quickly shifts into emotional territory as Amanda reflects on her controversial relationship with West. She admits she regrets how defensive she became during the reunion, confirms they are exclusive but not saying "I love you," and receives overwhelming support from her ex-husband Kyle, who says he'll always care about her despite their divorce.

Kyle opens up about their failed marriage, admits he feels more betrayed by West than Amanda, and shares that the two remain close friends even though they've moved on romantically. Amanda becomes emotional discussing their bond, while Kyle reveals he's embracing single life—including his first experience with sober sex.

Lindsay provides updates on co-parenting and her casual relationship with "Frank the Milkman," while Georgina discusses dating intentionally. The cast also shares heartfelt parenting advice for the soon-to-be moms.

The reunion's biggest conflict centers on Kenny, Whitney, and Lindsay. Lindsay defends questioning Kenny's commitment to Whitney after his past comments about lacking "sparks," while Kenny insists his remarks came during a difficult period after losing his mother. Whitney says Kenny reassured her privately, but tensions continue as the group debates whether Lindsay was genuinely looking out for Whitney or simply stirring drama.

Gavin also faces criticism for calling Kenny and Whitney's relationship "boring," while Georgina breaks down in tears over accusations that she's only dating Kenny for fame. Kenny defends both himself and Georgina, saying the group unfairly judged their relationship.

The reunion closes with emotional family discussions as Kenny shares that reconnecting with his father has changed his life, while Lindsay tearfully compares his reconciliation to her own strained relationship with her mother. The final heated exchange erupts after Whitney apologizes for accusing Lindsay of "playing the single mom card," but Lindsay rejects the explanation, calling the comments deeply hurtful and leaving the reunion on a tense note. 

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Wendy (00:00.655)
Hi. Welcome to We Wine Whenever. I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:04.362)
I'm Callie.

Wendy (00:06.307)
And we are talking about in the city season one reunion part one. But before we do that, I would like to ask everyone to please head over to YouTube and hit subscribe. Go over to Instagram and follow us, Facebook, TikTok, five star reviews and comments. And thank you for everyone who's done it already.

Kelli (00:25.358)
Thank you.

Wendy (00:27.039)
So the day of the reunion is June 11th, 2026. And Andy starts out by congratulating Devon and Nick for expecting. he asked Gavin if he has noticed a spike in his business since the show started, and he says yes. He's got many businesses. he asked Georgina if Kyle asked it if Kyle hit her up for some butt Botox, and she said, Well, that would be a HIPAA violation.

Kelli (00:57.624)
Good answer, Georgina.

Wendy (00:59.469)
Yeah. I love Georgita and I know you do too.

Kelli (01:03.488)
I do I I do not like how she's coming for Kenny though, but we'll get there. But I do love Georgina.

Wendy (01:09.261)
Okay. we find out that Amanda did her own makeup and hair this time. Sh cause she was getting a lot of hate for her hair at the summer house reunion. Do you remember that?

Kelli (01:22.183)
I do

Wendy (01:23.767)
She had like that like that messy like the the thing like the bun thing. Like I can't believe she paid somebody to do that to be quite honest with you, 'cause I thought her hair and makeup looked fine today on this reunion.

Kelli (01:35.374)
Totally. And her hair for the Summerhouse reunion, like when Tess throws her hair up real quick, like that's what she does with it. So if she paid somebody to do that, I I believe she got ripped off.

Wendy (01:42.584)
Right.

Wendy (01:48.043)
I I agree, I agree. I think that's what people were telling her. So she said, Okay, I'll just do it myself. we find out that Gemma is still master of the side eye, and we know where she gets that from. Love that. he asked DJ Kyle Cook, people want to know like how your asshole's doing. And he said, Well, it took a while, but he has finally recovered. Okay, glad to hear that.

Kelli (01:54.584)
Ha ha ha.

Kelli (02:02.158)
That was so funny.

Wendy (02:19.71)
he asked Kenny and Whitney about their spark, and Whitney said it was phenomenal. He gave a congratulations to Andrea and Lexi. They're expecting a baby girl due September 2nd. and we find out they're all due within a week of each other because Danielle and Owen are expecting on Labor Day, and he did a congratulations to them as well. Which honestly is yes, yes.

Kelli (02:44.866)
Which we know they didn't they didn't make it to Labor Day, the baby's already born, but yeah.

Wendy (02:49.73)
But I've seen pictures of her with the baby in the NICU and she's smiling and she's doing like the baby con you know, the skin to skin contact and like I'm happy for her. Yes. The baby will be in the hospital for like they said, probably two to three months. Two to three months. I mean the baby was ten weeks was ten weeks early. So the baby should probably be in the hospital 'til at least September, right? To the due date. I would think.

Kelli (02:59.064)
So the being still in the hospital.

Kelli (03:06.946)
Like I can't could you imagine?

Yeah.

Kelli (03:15.158)
Yeah. Yeah. Wow. That that has to be so difficult. My heart goes out to anyone who's had to deal with that, honestly.

Wendy (03:22.762)
No, I I totally agree. I totally agree.

Kelli (03:25.486)
'Cause she can't sleep there, right? Like she has to go home.

Wendy (03:27.84)
N I mean, listen, I'm sure i I I think she's supposed to go home, but I'm sure if she wanted to stay the night she would. Like they wouldn't kick her out, right? Or they're gonna kick her out. But again, she's gonna have to get her own rest because what is she gonna do? There's not there's not much she can do. Right? they confirmed that the prosciutto method worked. That was Andre's method. Neither neither have I.

Kelli (03:46.018)
Right. Yeah.

Kelli (03:52.521)
my I've never heard of this Brojuto met method. But but but if it works, it works.

Wendy (03:57.847)
It must it must be an Italian thing.

Kelli (04:00.875)
It must be.

Wendy (04:05.214)
Andy asks Amanda how it's going. He's like, We know you were just in Italy. And she confirms that. And he's like, What about this video of you spitting in West's mouth? And she confirms that it was an olive. Okay, that doesn't really make it any better. But thanks. okay.

Kelli (04:22.24)
It I I'm like what yeah. okay.

Wendy (04:28.328)
He said, you know, he got a lot of heat at the Summer House reunion for asking West if he was on anything, but not asking Amanda and she could confirm that she was also on a beta blocker, but that was not the reason that she shut down. That was her coping mechanism and how she deals with conflict with Kyle. So that was not because of the beta blocker, that was her coping mechanism.

Kelli (04:50.594)
Yeah. Her defense mechanism is to shut down and disassociate. She has said that more than one time. So I I yeah. I believe her too. I think that she has terrible anxiety, Amanda. And probably smoking weed helps that very much. I think that when people have anxiety, weed can either help them tremendously or make it a hundred times worse. So she might be one of those people that has anxiety.

Wendy (04:55.818)
No, she has. I believe her. I d I totally believe her. And I

Wendy (05:03.596)
I do too.

Kelli (05:19.81)
that weed actually helps. It's it's it's there's no in between. It's either really good for you or really bad for you when you have anxiety, from my experience knowing the people I know with anxiety.

Wendy (05:22.932)
And it's it it's it's interesting.

Wendy (05:34.233)
So I just hope that she is seeking medical professionals diagnosis for that and prescription. Like I'm not saying don't smoke the weed. I'm just saying don't be self-medicating. Like make sure that you are seeing a therapist, you're seeing a psychiatrist, and you're doing it in a safe way. That's all I'm saying. Because, you know

Kelli (05:53.112)
Yes. Yeah.

Wendy (06:01.42)
Like you said, either can be really good or really bad.

Kelli (06:05.782)
Yeah. I've seen it be really bad.

Wendy (06:08.768)
Yeah. Andy asked the rest of the cast, like, you know, what they thought, what the reaction was about the Amanda and West of it all. And they all admitted that they were shocked, except for Danielle. She said that she was disappointed. And she also let Amanda know that she hates that she doubled down, that she's continuing to pursue the relationship and going to Italy, and she wishes she would have taken time for herself for her

her own sake. And you know, Amanda's like, well, you know, you can't go back and change it. And Georgina's like, well, you can a little. I think and I think she's referring to when Georgina said that, like, you can break up with West and take time for yourself.

Kelli (06:52.65)
Sh I mean, she's been in an interview, Georgina, and said that she's actually said those words to Amanda. And I totally agree with her. You went from a ten year marriage, whether it was good or bad, it ended. Let's not debate the good or bad of it all. Ten year relationship, right. My God, you were single for barely a couple of months because you were I mean, you were telling us, the viewers, that you were trying to work things out, but clearly, you know, you weren't.

Wendy (06:57.888)
Right, right. And sh I I agree with her. I agree with her.

Wendy (07:06.294)
A relationship. Right, a ten year relationship. Mm-hmm.

Kelli (07:22.626)
But you you weren't even single that long and now you chose someone you chose the worst person you ever could have chose, let's face it. So now there's pressure on you to make this work, to shut the public up. Like it's a lose lose situation for her.

Wendy (07:43.445)
It really is. And I am very surprised. And again, she's a grown adult. I am surprised that her family has not stepped in, but like I said, she's a grown adult, so what are they gonna do? I mean, her friends have told her right. No. No. No.

Kelli (07:56.111)
Yeah, but we don't know if they have. Her parents aren't on the show a lot, you know? They never really were. They came on in certain situations when Kyle cheated, when they were getting married, now when she moved into her own apartment. They they do I mean, I think she's very close with her parents, but I don't think they want any part of this show or any show for that matter.

Wendy (08:18.402)
No no I agree with that. then Andy asks if any of them have hung out with Amanda and West and they all admitted they had not. He's asked Gavin if she's turned up at any of his bars and he said no and I s I call bullshit. I call bullshit.

Kelli (08:34.712)
Well he said Amanda knows better. He said Amanda would know better than to show up at any of my bars.

Wendy (08:38.1)
I know we said that. I know we said that, but like I said, I call bullshit.

Kelli (08:44.236)
Yeah, especially because he owns multiple bars.

Wendy (08:44.513)
I call bullshit.

Wendy (08:48.47)
Right, right. And it was it was rumored it was rumored months ago that Amanda and West were in those bars. Yes, yes.

Kelli (08:57.472)
it was? I didn't know that. In Gavin's bars. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. Okay.

Wendy (09:02.722)
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. So Andy asks if they were monogamous and she said yes. He asked if she was in love. Amanda said, That's a weird question to answer. And Georgina said, Well, do you say I love you? And she said, Not really. Georgina said, Have you ever? Amanda said, No. Then Danielle said, Well, love you counts. And then Amanda said,

Y yeah, like Ily, which is I love you, I L Y. What?

Kelli (09:39.254)
It's a weird thing. I I I I honestly feel like they don't say that. I honestly feel like they're only still together because of the because they feel like they have to be.

Wendy (09:46.017)
No

Wendy (09:52.632)
Well they do. I mean they kinda do, right?

Kelli (09:54.069)
I know. I feel like once the pressure lifts off a little bit, like Summerhouse is filming without both of them, like something else is gonna happen in the Bravo verse that's gonna take the attention away from them. And I think that's when they're gonna call it split spell. And then and then we'll see if she's back on in the city. Guaranteed they break up over the summer at some point. Something else is gonna happen on Bravo. And maybe they break up over the summer and then she's back on in the city.

Wendy (10:09.952)
It's so weird because I've hurt

Wendy (10:22.904)
I f I honestly feel like this is my own personal opinion. I feel like she should not be back on in the city. I've seen them ask other in the city cast members how they would feel with filming with West. And nobody was on board with it, right? But why is that even a question? Because if she's still with West when they start filming, I feel like she should not be on the show. Why why is it assumed that she's gonna be on the show?

Kelli (10:38.284)
No, he can't come on.

No way.

Kelli (10:49.258)
I agree with you. I I agree with you. Because honestly, I feel like she and Kyle obviously, after watching this reunion, are in a good place together. Which is which is amazing, right? So I would like to see her break up with West and come back on single so we can see her and Kyle like kind of mend their friendship. Because the marriage is done.

Wendy (10:51.394)
Why is it assumed? Because it shouldn't be assumed.

Wendy (11:00.684)
Right. Right. Mm-hmm.

Wendy (11:17.216)
Or even right. I think they've mended their friendship to quite honest with you. I think they're in a great place. I would like Yeah. I would like to see her find somebody else. I don't want to see in the city come back with her with West. Because if she's still with West when they start filming, she should not be on the show. And that's I feel very strongly about that. And I don't I don't right?

Kelli (11:23.395)
I I think they're in a great place, but I'd like to see, you know, that dynamic.

Kelli (11:35.884)
No

Now.

Kelli (11:42.304)
I totally agree with you.

Totally agree with you.

Wendy (11:48.355)
Andy asked Amanda if she watched the reunion. She said she didn't need to because she lived it. She said she this is weird that she said. She said she was disappointed in her performance. She wanted to be able to apologize and provide more clarity. And I wanted to come off as sad. And then she said, and not hurt, but upset about how I hurt other people. You wanted to come off that way, or you felt that way? Like, which is it?

Kelli (12:17.282)
I feel like her wording was terrible, but I kind of understood what she meant. Like she wanted everyone there to know that she was remorseful. She wanted everyone there to know that she felt bad about what she did, but her natural instinct was to be defensive and she wishes she didn't do that. But she did say exactly what you said. I wanted to come off as upset about the hurt I caused other people. Ugh That was

Wendy (12:44.374)
Right. Right. That's weird. No, that's weird. And listen, she said I think the energy like I went into defense mode, and that's not to blame anyone. I do think this reunion I see a totally different Amanda. Like she's not and again, West isn't there. And I think that that may be the key, right? West is not there. And Sierra's not there.

Kelli (12:46.062)
The way to word it. It was weird. Yeah.

Kelli (13:07.564)
And Sierra's not there.

Because she's in a good place with Kyle, where he can actually sit and hear her talk about West, she can't do that in front of Sierra.

Wendy (13:20.768)
No. No. And and I also also based on what Amanda said no, excuse me, what Lindsay said to Amanda at the end of the summer house reunion in the next episode, like I cannot be friends with somebody who ha has the character traits that you're ex express you know, that you're you're giving me right now. I don't remember her exact wording, but if you're gonna be this person

Kelli (13:23.15)
Still, I would imagine.

Wendy (13:50.947)
Who is gonna lie to my face and, you know, treat others like Kyle and myself the way that you've been treating us, then I don't wanna be in your world. Like you cannot be in my world. And I think that Lindsay, when sa when she says something like that, I think she means it. And I think that that's also an important thing that's gonna we're gonna have to see what happens at the end of Summer House. Cause you know, we're not gonna see that until what next

Kelli (14:08.526)
Absolutely.

Wendy (14:21.003)
Spring.

Kelli (14:23.148)
Normally I think Summerhouse plays in the winter. Like we s w they're filming now and we get to see it over our winter, like Christmas time.

Wendy (14:32.108)
Okay.

Kelli (14:33.613)
I think.

I liked when Nick says West is ten times worse than Kyle. Well, so here's the thing. He says West is ten times worse than the Kyle in the ways Amanda had a problem with Kyle. But listen, I still understand how it's different.

When Kyle would get drunk, when they were married, he never wanted the party to end. And West might be it might listen, they might be the same, it might be the same situation, but she's not married to West. She could fucking leave. She could be like, peace out, you're acting like a dick. I'm out. She was married to Kyle. She was like obligated to be there. She had to take care of him. She had to make sure he got home. Like that was her husband.

It's different with West and but it doesn't sound like I mean, she's not seeing that side of West yet or or now like

Wendy (15:31.89)
No, because like you said, no, because she's still in the honeymoon phase and like you said, she doesn't she's not married to him, she can leave and go home. I

Kelli (15:38.872)
She's not. She could just leave and be like, You're acting le fool you're making a fool of yourself. I'm outta here.

Wendy (15:44.697)
Peace out. Nick, I also like that he said, I care about you and I've known you for a long time. Because that's one of the that's one of the things that Kyle keeps telling her. Like you have friends, people like you have people here that care about you and love you. Like every and he said that at one point during the reunion. Like everybody here is saying this because they care about you and they love you. Like you can't say the same thing about Wes because he's known to be using words to manipulate people. That's what he's known for.

Kelli (15:50.37)
Yes, yes.

Kelli (16:14.286)
Well that's the thing, 'cause she says she's getting things from West that she lacked with Kyle. It's like what? Like, say what it is. I know. I know. Cause yeah.

Wendy (16:14.306)
Because even when sh

Wendy (16:21.868)
Right. And she couldn't give a specific. She couldn't give a specific. She couldn't give a s she could yeah.

Because Kyle said, like, let me know, like, what like what does he do? Does he do your taxes? Does he negotiate your brand deals? Does he make your bed? Like, how did I not support you? And she's like, Well, but there were things that were lacking. Kyle said, Well, you know, when you say things like that, like, I understand our marriage wasn't perfect. Amanda's like, Well, well, he talks to me and tells me, like, it's just like his actions. It's just like different. It is the most vague thing I've ever heard in my life. She cannot give you a specific. It's that he doesn't hold you accountable. And

Kyle was there protecting you the whole time, almost like a father figure.

Kelli (17:03.34)
He was like a father figure, really.

Wendy (17:06.114)
He really was. He was

Kelli (17:08.076)
Not that she not that she needed one because obviously her father was very involved in her life, but I think they kind of took on those roles at some point. And and when Kyle says like she wasn't you know, she didn't care about the business. She didn't like what was she doing? Was she working? Was she working before she came on to Lover Boy as the creative director or whatever, I know she did something she was working doing something, right? So yeah.

Wendy (17:17.152)
Right. I do too.

Wendy (17:31.086)
She was working.

Wendy (17:35.288)
She was like a a like a creative like a digital designer or cre she was working. She had a job.

Kelli (17:42.445)
Yeah. Something like that. But she said she was talking about emotional support from West. But I can't see w I mean, how supportive could w can West be? Like come on. Yes, he is. Yes he is.

Wendy (17:45.752)
She had a job.

Wendy (17:49.43)
Right.

Wendy (17:55.277)
He's love bombing her. He's just love bombing her. And she doesn't understand the difference. She doesn't understand the difference between love bombing and emotional support. She doesn't understand the difference. Because she is emotionally immature. Because she met Kyle when she was in her early twenties, and that's all she ever knew. I mean

Kelli (18:15.766)
And then she was put on a sho like she's on a show. You're on a show. So everything about your life is gonna be on the show. So it's like when do you turn it off?

Wendy (18:19.137)
Right.

Wendy (18:26.092)
Yeah. No, I agree. And listen, Kenny said to Kyle, I've been I've been surprised. Like you have been very dignified throughout this entire thing. Like you've amazed me. And Amanda said, Listen, Kyle has been my best support. And she does not take anything away from Kyle. She appreciates everything that he's done for her and continues to do for her. And he's like, Listen, I don't know any other way to do it. This is who I am and I I agree with that. Like that's who he is. And they're now in a good place where they can laugh about it.

Kelli (18:43.374)
Yeah.

Wendy (18:55.992)
They could talk about you know, A Andy said, like, do you get upset when you see him making out with other people? She's like, I mourned that a long time ago. Like, no, I don't. Like, we joke about it. And I'm glad that they're at that place. I'm glad they're at that place.

Wendy (19:14.061)
Kelli (19:14.702)
How about that he told her that he can have sober sex now? And she's like, I'm so proud of you.

Wendy (19:19.98)
And she started to cry. I mean, listen, that's that's growth. That's growth.

Kelli (19:26.584)
Yeah. Yeah. And Kyle said he felt more betrayed betrayed by West, which I listen, I still don't believe that there was an affair going on. I I may be very naive. I don't think anything happened before their timeline. Maybe maybe a little before their timeline, but I don't think anything happened over the summer. I don't think anything happened before Amanda said to Kyle, I'm moving out and I I just need some space. But anyway.

He feels more betrayed by West and I I understand that. Just like Sierra feels more betrayed by Amanda, although it's very different because Kyle was married to Amanda. So I I know I've said it before that it wasn't different, but it is different.

Wendy (20:01.175)
I do too.

Wendy (20:07.723)
Right.

Kelli (20:12.686)
'Cause Sierra's gotta let this go. But I I not that she's talking about it still, but you know. Yeah. I I think she has too.

Wendy (20:17.198)
I think she has let it go. I don't I mean, we haven't heard from Sierra. I think Sierra's let it go. I think she has. they talk about Kyle was making out with Sally the night before the c in the city premiere and he was just in Charleston. Yep.

Kelli (20:28.984)
There's that name again. There's that name again. Four people that we know of in the Bravo universe. Branch out, Sally. Branch out. I was very attracted to Sally.

Wendy (20:37.984)
Mm-hmm. Listen, you said she was beautiful. Sh you said it yourself. You said that she would have I know you I know you said it. Okay. Andy said we have Lala from the Valley saying that you are great in bed, Kyle. And Kyle's like, Well, it was Sally that said that, but Amanda like, Well, wait. Well, like, what are you doing in bed? Like, why wait, why are people saying that? And Lindsay's like, He's having sober sex.

Kelli (20:47.126)
I'm not anymore.

Kelli (21:07.618)
He's paying attention. He might be giving back. He's not being so much of a receiver.

Wendy (21:07.918)
Exactly. Yes, he not Exactly.

then Andy puts a pin in that. He's We're gonna move on to Amanda's love life. And he asks Andrea, like, you know, have you been trying to look for other, you know, setups for Lindsay? And he he's like, No, she's still going strong with the milkman. Like the the two of them, Frank the Milkman and Lindsay are still going strong. And she's like, Yeah, they are. I I was surprised as well because honestly, after the first date, it didn't seem good. And I know, and we all know, because she's made it very clear.

Kelli (21:35.127)
I couldn't believe that.

Wendy (21:45.759)
Yvonne's not a big fan of him, and if her best friend's not a fan of him, I'm not a fan of him either. Because nobody knows her like Yvonne knows her, right? But she says she's not looking for a serious relationship, which I think that's good. I don't think she should be. I think she should be like taking her time and worrying about co parenting and Gemma.

Kelli (21:54.614)
Right. Right.

Wendy (22:12.222)
Andy asked what kind of guy do Right. Andy said, what kind of guy do you see for Lindsay? And Georgina said, Well, I think like ambition, like we need to check that box. But I also see Lindsay was someone who doesn't take himself very seriously. Honestly, I l I think Dustin would have been great match, but he lives too far away. And I agree. I think Dustin would have been a great match. The singer, the country singer?

Kelli (22:12.438)
And sh yeah, she's yeah, she's not looking for anything serious.

Kelli (22:38.892)
Yes.

Wendy (22:41.026)
Kelli (22:41.954)
I liked when Yvonne said Frank's in the fling category, not the ring category.

Wendy (22:47.434)
Yes. No, I like that too.

Wendy (22:52.59)
Andy asked about Georgina. She says she's not currently seeing anyone, but she has decided that this is her next step and she's going to be dating intentionally. She's not doing what Lindsay's doing. Like she's going to be and I think that's good for her. She knows what she wants, right?

Kelli (23:11.276)
Yeah, like I feel like she said, she was hoping it would work out with the X and she's like whatever she says, she's like, I know that sounds pathetic or like whatever she said, but it doesn't. That's not, you know, nothing to feel bad about.

Wendy (23:18.946)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (23:27.096)
Then a viewer asked Georgina and Lindsay, what's the best parenting advice you have to offer the soon-to-be new moms? And Lindsay said, Listen, you can't control how it's all gonna go down, whether it's from the birth to the afterbirth, the postpartum, like you just have to move with the emotions. They come, make sure you have a support system and in line and like know that I'm I'm here for all of you. And she said, including Danielle. She said, including Danielle.

Kelli (23:51.362)
Good advice. Good advice. Yeah.

Wendy (23:55.575)
I was like, why'd she have to say Clinton, yell?

Kelli (23:59.833)
I guess maybe Danielle was questioning that internally.

Wendy (24:02.968)
Well, because I mean, listen, they are still they're still at this reunion. I still think they're not in a great place because even when Andy asked Danielle what her opinion was of Lindsay's dating, she's like, I'm not talking about that. And I think she's right. But I think obviously the fact that Danielle has given birth ten weeks early, I am sure one hundred percent Lindsay has been there for her and will be there for her. So then Georgina said, Give yourself grace, give yourself love. If you need a minute, take a minute.

Kelli (24:24.482)
Yes, yes.

Wendy (24:31.794)
And remember like she's like, I remember like I was holding in my pee, like the baby was crying with her first one, and she would go hold in her pee to go, you know, get the baby, you know, the bottle. And she's like, No, like now I know with the second one, like I'm gonna go pay and that kid can wait. And she's like, I wish I knew that at the first. And I think that that's such good advice. the best advice I could give any new mom, it's okay to let them cry. It's okay to let them cry, right?

Kelli (24:48.322)
Yes, Becky can win.

Kelli (24:52.898)
Yes.

Kelli (24:58.101)
God, yeah.

Wendy (25:00.748)
It's okay to let them cry.

Kelli (25:01.48)
absolutely. Absolutely. Let them cry. Let them cry themselves to sleep. You gotta go throw the binky back in their mouth once in a while, no problem. But when you first put them in bed, they have to learn how to get themselves to sleep.

Wendy (25:03.926)
Right.

Wendy (25:07.371)
Let them cry.

Right. They need to learn.

Wendy (25:15.906)
They need to learn how to self soothe. Let them cry.

Kelli (25:17.206)
Knock on wood, I never like my kids were in their cribs within a week of coming home from the hospital. And they just, you know, you ha you have to. I mean, listen, you're not letting them cry it out before like two months, three months. You know, once they're once you know, like, all right, bro, we're good. You know, you're you you're you're fed, you have a clean diaper, it's it's bedtime.

Wendy (25:28.024)
To let him cry.

Kelli (25:46.786)
That's when you let them cry it out, not not a weekend. But I did have my kids in their cribs within a week.

Wendy (25:53.208)
I only had a crib, I didn't have anything else. I never had anything but a crib.

Kelli (25:55.489)
I had a bassinet next to my bed for like a week. When I after I mean, I had C section, so I was in the hospital for five days. Then I came home, I nursed them both for a little bit, but not long. And then Joe had that damn surgery.

Wendy (25:58.659)
I never had a bassinet.

Wendy (26:08.846)
Listen, my first house with my first two children was a nine hundred square foot ranch. I really did not need a bassinet in a crib, right? And my second house, which was by the time I had my third, was like, yeah, no. There's no bassinet. Like you you're gonna figure this shit out. Like I've been this I've been down this road before. You're gonna figure it out. You'll be fine.

Kelli (26:14.936)
Right.

Kelli (26:24.462)
That's right.

You're gonna be just fine.

Kelli (26:34.35)
Exactly.

Wendy (26:37.124)
my gosh. So then Andy goes to switching gears. Kenny got a lot of smoke for moving Whitney across the country for not giving her a ring or a closet. This whole part of the reunion went so south. I

Kelli (26:49.282)
Listen, I totally agree with you. And I'm gonna just say this. I don't know if I just love men that much. But I feel like between this show and the valley, I am so over the making Danny out to be some monster on the valley and now this guy the big villain of in the city. Kenny is not the villain. Kenny is not a gaslighter. Kenny stood up to Lindsay.

You wanna say something about Whitney making her single mom comment? Fine. But Kenny sticking up to Lindsay standing up for himself does not make him a gaslighter. It's unbelievable what's going on on this show.

Wendy (27:29.705)
I agree with you.

Wendy (27:35.711)
I a hundred percent agree with you. The next thing Andy says is why is it so crazy, crazy for Lindsay to say to you that it's a big gesture for your girlfriend to move across the country from her friends without a ring? Do you not agree? And he says, I agree. It's a big gesture. She's projecting her situation onto my relationship, which I totally agree with as well.

Kelli (27:59.907)
Absolutely.

Wendy (28:01.493)
And then

It just like Lindsay is not letting Kenny talk. And this is what I don't like. Lindse right. Lindsay keeps over talking Kenny and Whitney's trying to give her point. She's like, listen, if you're saying that you were doing this out of my best interest, you would have just like talked to me on the side. Like you would have asked me the question versus insinuating judgment and like hearing someone else's perspective.

Kelli (28:09.442)
Nope, not at all. Talk about a gaslighter.

Wendy (28:33.314)
perspective and Lindsey Lindsay said, I'm just asking questions and he's looking around, making sure you're not right there. So you don't know that he fucked around on you.

And

Kelli (28:46.04)
That's a nice little bomb to drop.

Wendy (28:48.546)
Right.

Kelli (28:50.134)
Imagine if somebody did that to Lindsay.

Wendy (28:54.828)
And Kenny's making it perfectly clear. He says, Listen, I want to make this perfectly clear. We were not together. And Whitney's saying, I knew about that. I knew about that. And Kenny is trying to explain that he was going through something personal in his life. His mother was sick. His mother was dying. They had separated. He's still trying to explain this. And the whole time Lindsay is trying to over talk him. The entire time.

Kelli (29:20.896)
And what she's saying is complete bullshit. I was making a point to Kenny taking Whitney's side saying, don't fuck around on her. And I was actually being a girl's girl. No, you weren't. No, you weren't. That was cra that was crazy that she said that.

Wendy (29:24.844)
Yeah.

Wendy (29:32.62)
Right. No, no.

Yeah, no.

I totally agree. She's like, yeah, I was I was being a girl's girl. That's me taking the perspective of the female as looking around and your friends are saying that you were the fuck boy. No, no. And even when, even when Lindsay says, let me know when I can talk, and Kenny says, I will. And then he starts to talk. And then she says it again, let me know when I can talk. And then he's he says, I will. And then what does she say underneath her breath?

Kelli (29:53.964)
No.

Kelli (30:04.642)
Right. She's not letting him talk.

Wendy (30:10.156)
She calls him a narcissist and misogynist while he's trying to explain. And I'm like, what? Listen.

Kelli (30:17.112)
Yep. It this is in it it's the same thing in my opinion that's going well, it's not the same thing that's going on on the in the val on the valley because Danny does have his issues when he drinks. But this guy isn't Kenny is not doing what they're saying he's doing or in you know, intimating that he's doing at all. And Yvonne wasn't so bad, but Georgina.

I mean tell me you're a minion without telling me you're a minion.

Wendy (30:51.758)
Georgina was not as bad as Lindsay. Lindsay was going in hard.

Kelli (30:55.111)
But I'm saying as far as calling Lindsay's friends minions, Georgina was actually acting like one in this moment.

Wendy (30:59.846)
yeah.

Wendy (31:03.714)
Honestly, I felt like Georgina really felt that way as another mom. I felt like Georgina was speaking not as Lindsay's minion, but as another mom.

Kelli (31:16.312)
Think what I think the beef they have with Whitney is it's justified. She's apologized. So now you have to decide whether you're gonna move on from this or not. So the issues with Whitney with the single mom thing, absolutely. But Kenny, the way Georgina was coming for Kenny, I'm like

Wendy (31:40.75)
Georgina was coming hard for Kenny. And I honestly I feel like with Whitney, this is how I feel. I feel like Lindsay and Georgina are a bunch of sharks. And Whitney is just blood in the water. And there's honestly, there's nothing she can do because she is not strong enough. She's like this little minnow with the blood in the water. She's gonna get

Kelli (31:49.206)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (31:57.036)
I think she is though.

Wendy (31:59.979)
You think she is what?

Kelli (32:01.526)
I think she is strong enough, and I think second season we're gonna see a a big difference. She's got nobody on her side other than Kenny. She's on an island by herself. Gavin is so far up Lindsay's ass, it's disgusting. Lexi wants so bad to be one of Lindsay's minions. She's gonna do whatever she's Yep. So really Danielle is probably Whitney's only hope for an ally in this show.

Wendy (32:05.344)
I hope so. no I h I so hope so.

Wendy (32:14.262)
I agree. I totally agree with you. I agree.

Wendy (32:21.119)
she wants to be a cool girl. Yep.

Kelli (32:29.25)
But I think Whitney's gonna be just fine. I can't wait to see season two 'cause I th I think Whitney is up to the challenge to go against Lindsay. And I think she's kind of making a point of it to do so, which I'm here for that.

Wendy (32:43.406)
I mean, I would be here for that too. I personally don't see it right now. I don't see it. I don't see her strong enough. I mean, when Andy asked Whitney, so Jasmine on Watch What Happens Live said the most who is the most fame hungry contestant from Bachelor Bachelor Nation and she said it was you. And that's when Georgina jumped in.

Kelli (32:56.299)
my god.

Kelli (33:04.064)
I mean of all people to say that though, Jasmine, you've been on like five reality TV shows. The way you flip-flop on the Yeah. So I'm saying reality TV shows. Like you've been on so many. And the way you flip-flop on the valley. It's like you you are the most thirsty. I mean Andy asking her is a joke.

Wendy (33:09.304)
I know.

Wendy (33:13.056)
Also Bachelor, also Bachelor Nation.

Wendy (33:20.685)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (33:32.716)
I mean I mean, I didn't like the fact that Whitney was crying. Andy asked her why she's crying. She's like, I think I think it's just hurtful that, you know, people think that I'm just here on the show f you know, for fame or or you know, that's why I'm with Kenny is for fame and you know, and because that's what Georgina said. I'd honestly

Kelli (33:53.433)
Well, Georgina said you should say you're with him to be on a reality TV show instead of actually wanting to be with him because of who he is. This is what I'm saying about Georgina. She's jumping on that Lindsay's bat in Lindsay bandwagon to make Kenny look like some scumbag when he's not.

Wendy (34:06.466)
Right. Yeah.

Kelli (34:16.94)
Like if you have a problem with what Whitney said about a single mom, okay. But Kenny's not this monster.

He's sticking up for his girlfriend, which he should.

Wendy (34:23.992)
I agree with you. He's he's definitely sticking up but I do agree with what Georgina said when she said if you want to bring your girlfriend on this show and you want her to get along with all of us, you fighting with every one of us is not gonna help her. Like you're not helping her situation. That I do agree with.

Kelli (34:43.918)
Yeah, but she says you you should have been nice to everyone and not attacked everyone. Who did he attack? He who did he attack?

Wendy (34:52.472)
Right.

Wendy (34:56.686)
Well he attacked Lindsay. He attacked Lindsay.

Kelli (35:03.214)
How? He because he stood up for himself. Because Out the Gate, episode one, she's questioning him bringing his girlfriend across country. And I don't even think he I mean, the w he said, I'm getting man hater vibes. That's what he said. And I think that's the comment that was the catalyst of Lindsay's, you know, campaign against him.

Wendy (35:30.605)
Yeah.

Kelli (35:31.35)
Unless I miss something. And he said the whole season I felt like I had to defend my relationship. And he's not wrong.

Wendy (35:40.153)
He's not wrong. He's not wrong. Because Gavin said, like, you know, I want to stand up for my boy. Like, maybe if you weren't so defensive, he's like, but I had to be defensive. And I kind of agree, he did. But then Amanda said, Well, maybe we learn from this. And if like the rest of this evening, like when one of you is asked a question, not all three of you answer it because that's what was going on. That's what was going on. And Yvonne, yes. Yes, that's what was going on. And

Kelli (35:48.086)
Right.

Kelli (36:02.818)
Meaning Georgina, Lindsay, and Yvonne. Right.

Wendy (36:10.615)
It was

Kelli (36:12.148)
It was, and what they're doing is they're making him a villain because he defended himself against a woman. So again, same thing going on on the valley. So because she's a woman, he can't defend himself against her. That's fucking bullshit. And that means we're going backwards. He could defend himself against anyone. He wasn't being disrespectful. He wasn't being belligerent. He wasn't being obnoxious.

Wendy (36:22.54)
You can't win. Right with Danny. Right. Danny and Lawa. Right. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Kelli (36:42.104)
He wasn't. But because Lindsay's a woman, he wasn't allowed to defend himself against her.

Wendy (36:44.386)
No, I agree with you.

Wendy (36:49.964)
No, he wasn't. I mean, we've we've said this. Lindsay's an alpha. Lindsay's gonna be the top dog, right?

Kenny, I applaud him for defending Whitney. I do. Gavin for not defending Kenny and having Lindsay's side, I think is weak. I think it's weak. I think I think I think Gavin's weak. I think he's weak.

Kelli (37:02.913)
Me too.

Kelli (37:18.126)
Totally agree. Totally agree.

Wendy (37:23.407)
and then Andy.

Kelli (37:24.268)
I mean, listen, they're talking about minions and Danielle says it was only okay for the other girls to hang out with me because Lindsay was said it was okay. And she's not she's not wrong either. Because one of them actually said it, Yvonne. I think Yvonne was with Danielle and they were filming and she was like, Well, you know, Lindsay, you know, sat and had lunch with her, so I figured it was okay. What?

Wendy (37:54.061)
Right, 'cause Danielle said it's it's hard to be on the island alone. 'Cause Danielle w was on that island alone this season with in the city.

But the thing I don't like, this is what I don't like about Whitney.

When she says the point that she was trying to get across by saying the single mom thing is that she should have been a better friend to Yvonne and given up the room. That is where she loses me. Because her argument does not hold weight. Like it's there's no what there's no weight in this argument. Like that's not for you to decide how Lindsay needs to be a friend to Yvonne, who she's been friends with for ten years or more, right? You don't decide.

How she needs to be a better friend. That's not for you to decide.

Kelli (38:44.126)
No, I agree. I mean, I think in the you know, in the past she said that she holds her friends to a higher standard, you know, her friendships to a higher standard, blah, blah, blah, blah. But I I agree with you. Don't judge me as what kind of you know, as to what kind of friend I am.

Wendy (39:01.44)
And

Kelli (39:01.442)
But that's her only defense, Whitney. What else is she gonna say?

Wendy (39:04.716)
Well, well, that's the whole thing. And then I mean, she does apologize. But the whole point that Lindsay makes is like, okay, so you apologize, but then you double down and you say, like, how can she play that card when she has a nanny? When Lindsay said when I watched that last night, it I almost threw up, it made me sick. I was like, Okay, that's a bit dramatic.

Kelli (39:29.867)
she said she you know, she was crying for months or something. No you weren't, Lindsay. No the fuck you weren't.

Wendy (39:33.728)
Yes, no, no, no. No.

Wendy (39:41.721)
So then Andy s and and Whitney, like, can you name one says to Whitney, can you name one other instance where Lindsay played the mom card? And Whitney's like, Listen, I said I misspoke. Like, I she's already admitted it. I misspoke. Like, I observed the situation. I felt like she was acting more entitled. And that's when Lindsay went off on her. When she said that, when she said

I observed the situation and I felt like Lindsay, you know, felt more entitled. That's when Lindsay literally ate her up. That's when she went off on her. And honestly, I'm gonna give that one to Lindsay because

Kelli (40:25.154)
Yeah, I mean yeah.

Wendy (40:27.606)
When he was wrong. That's not she shouldn't have gone there.

Kelli (40:30.914)
No. Then the whole nanny thing is that's not great. You know what's interesting? I saw on social media today somebody reposted. I don't know if you remember. I didn't remember, but it was a reunion from Summerhouse where Paige basic basically ate Lindsay up and was like, Everybody knows you're a bitch. Everybody knows how you treat people. You are so horrible to fans. You are so horrible to even

Wendy (40:35.69)
No, you can't do that.

Kelli (40:59.838)
Andy's production people, you yell at them, you're she went off page on Lindsay for how she treated fans and production and Andy's people at what like crazy.

Wendy (41:15.756)
I did not see that, but honestly it doesn't surprise me. No, it doesn't surprise me.

Kelli (41:17.322)
I was like, wow, I forgot about that. I've totally forgot about doesn't surprise me at all. She is entitled. She does act entitled, Lindsay. Do you know who I am? I'm Lindsay fucking Hubbard. I mean, she said that like fucking season five. We're in season ten now. So

Wendy (41:26.638)
It does.

Wendy (41:33.635)
Listen, I I I as much as I I appreciate her. I honestly I appreciate her. I appreciate her that she fights her fight because she's fighting it alone. She doesn't have her mother. Her father was whatever. She doesn't have a man by her side. She's got a baby. She has been fighting this fight on her own. And, you know, people say like you you chose to have these children and you complain about them. She's never complained about having a child. She hasn't. No, she's not. She's not.

Kelli (41:59.463)
no, she's not complaining. Absolutely not. Listen, we we said it when she got pregnant. I have a love hate relationship with Lindsay. I think she is great for reality TV. One thing you I I knew, we knew as soon as she got pregnant, she's gonna be the best mom in the world because of what she went through with her own mother. She will never complain about that little girl. Ever. Ever, ever, ever, ever, ever.

Wendy (42:04.941)
No.

Wendy (42:27.114)
No, no, no. And that little girl will be the light of her life. And yes, I mean it is what it is. And again, I think that Lindsay is like I said it, I said it before, she's an alpha. She'll always be an alpha. She's gonna fight or fight. She's a very, very hard time apologizing, even to her very best friend Yvonne for many, many years. But she did it. She did it.

Kelli (42:32.78)
Yes.

Kelli (42:36.374)
Yes.

Kelli (42:43.788)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (42:52.002)
Yeah. Sh yeah, but it wasn't easy. It wasn't easy cracking that cracking that egg.

Wendy (42:55.276)
It wasn't e it wasn't easy. It wasn't easy. It wasn't easy. I like her. I think she's a great reality star.

Kelli (43:01.314)
Now, what do you think about why didn't she bring up when they start talking about the whole, you know, primary bedroom, why didn't she bring up the conversation that she and Kenny supposedly had that she posted about?

Right? She put this post up that she and Kenny had a conversation where he, you know wha whatever whatever that post was that she said. She didn't bring that up at the reunion. Don't you find that interesting? Maybe she will next episode. But I really hope we're not talking about this next episode. I don't know what we're gonna be talking about though.

Wendy (43:20.066)
Maybe she

Wendy (43:35.202)
I mean

I mean I don't know because honestly I think the reunion ris was filmed on June, what did I say? And that the episode aired. So I I don't know that the episode the reunion fill June eleventh, right? I don't think the timing would have been right for it to come up, to be quite honest with you.

Kelli (43:51.182)
June eleventh, yeah.

Kelli (44:01.697)
No, I think the timing was right there. You're talk you're talking about the primary bedroom and you not giving it up for Yvonne. If that conversation happened, bring it up. If you're gonna post about it, bring it up.

Wendy (44:01.762)
Because I don't I don't

Wendy (44:15.948)
Yeah. Because No, I agree. I agree. Maybe it will be brought up. Maybe it will be brought up.

Kelli (44:21.344)
I hope so, because if not, then I then I question the authenticity of that post because I do believe Kenny responded and said something about Lindsay rewriting history. I I think that happened. Yes.

Wendy (44:34.314)
no, that sounds that sounds like something Kenny would say. That definitely sounds like something Kenny would say. And you know, when Kenny was on Watch What Happens Live, he did say I told you Gavin was in the audience. He did say that Kyle had his back out of everybody up there. And I believe that that's true. I believe that's true. I know that Kenny

Kelli (44:38.37)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (44:59.15)
Well he damn well better. He invested in Loverboy. Kyle better have his back.

Wendy (45:04.044)
I know that yeah, I know that he invested in Loverboy, but I know that he's been friends with him for a long time. That's why he invested in Loverboy. Like it's not like this, you know, some rando that he knew, right? I think that Kenny and Kyle have been friends for a long time. And Lindsay has said this. Like she's been hanging out with Gavin, like her and Gavin have been friends for a long time.

Kelli (45:25.272)
Yeah, why do people keep asking her if if she and Gavin are hooking up? Don't you find that odd, Lindsay?

Wendy (45:32.462)
I mean, no, because they're both single and they do have a little bit of a banter and Gavin's upper ass. I mean, we should

Kelli (45:39.458)
That's the thing that's throwing me off. It's like, no, he kisses her ass too much. Like that could never work.

Wendy (45:42.294)
Right. Right. Right. I mean, we'll have to wait and see. I wanna I wanna do this before I forget. I wanna give a shout out to Angie. She's one of our listeners, and she is from Vancouver Island in British Columbia. She watches us on YouTube and she comments on our post. And listen, Angie, we love you and thank you so much. Angie from British.

Kelli (45:59.758)
Amazing.

Wendy (46:09.622)
No, Vancouver Island in British Columbia. I wanted to get it right. Thank you so much, Angie. We love you. Yes. We definitely love you. And we're going to start doing that because there's a we have a couple other watchers, especially on YouTube, who really comment and engage with us all the time. So we're going to start giving Yeah, that's one of them. I think House Hunters is another one. We're going to start.

Kelli (46:13.356)
Yeah. Thank you so much for your support. We love you. Thank you.

Kelli (46:25.858)
Yeah. Is it Paul Minnelli? Is that the one the other one? Paul Minnelli. Mm-hmm.

Wendy (46:35.348)
giving you guys some shout outs 'cause we definitely appreciate. We appreciate the engagement. You don't have to agree with what we say. We don't I mean you don't have to agree with us. You have your own opinion. We have our opinions. W we don't, and that's okay, right? It's okay. It's totally fine.

Kelli (46:43.416)
We don't even agree with each other half the time. We're still friends. We still have wine on the porch.

Wendy (46:52.608)
Yeah, we definitely do. So it's all good. Thank you for everyone who supports us. We appreciate everything that you do by supporting us, right?

Kelli (47:02.146)
Yep. Thank you.

Wendy (47:04.332)
So until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe and give us five-star reviews. Bye.

Kelli (47:10.722)
Bye.