RHOBH-Emotionally Unsafe in Beverly Hills

RHOBH-Emotionally Unsafe in Beverly Hills

Podcast Summary – RHOBH S15 E7: Headlines and Heartbreak

This episode is heavy on emotion and headlines as the women juggle grief, divorce, and unresolved conflict. Rachel and Erika kick things off bonding over their shared inability to dress casually, while unpacking the bombshell revelation of Amanda’s son’s passing and the tension it’s created within the group. Amanda opens up to Kyle about feeling emotionally unsafe after Dorit’s aggressive behavior, explaining how the confrontation triggered real physical anxiety and grief.

Kyle becomes the sounding board of the episode, navigating Amanda’s pain while also confronting her own unresolved feelings about Mauricio. A lunch with Dorit, Boz, and Boz’s longtime friend Summer leads to candid conversations about divorce, custody battles, and Kyle’s hesitation to file despite feeling unseen in her marriage. That conversation gets even more uncomfortable when Mauricio unexpectedly joins the table, putting everyone—and especially Kyle—on edge.

Meanwhile, Dorit doubles down on her issues with Amanda, questioning whether Amanda uses her grief defensively. Boz, who has experienced loss herself, challenges Dorit’s approach and calls out the lack of sensitivity. The group is further shocked when Dorit reveals Amanda once wrote about escaping a cult, raising new questions about her past.

The biggest headline of the episode drops when Rachel Zoe confirms she filed for divorce from Roger Berman, framing it as a painful but empowering new beginning. Emotions continue to spiral when Kyle revisits her old family home with Mauricio, breaking down over memories and wondering if her life—and marriage—might have turned out differently.

The episode culminates at a joint birthday dinner for Erika and Dorit, where glam is high but tension is higher. Dorit and Amanda come face-to-face, and what starts as a polite attempt to “clear the air” quickly escalates when Amanda asserts she refuses to be verbally accosted at a dinner party. Dorit recoils, hands up in shock, and the episode ends right as things are about to explode.

To be continued…

Transcript

Wendy (00:01.142)
Hi, welcome to We Won Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:04.589)
I'm Kelly.

Lori (00:05.497)
and I'm Lori.

Wendy (00:07.958)
We are talking about Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, season 15, episode number seven, headlines and heartbreak. I guess it's a decent, it's a decent Rachel Zoh's divorce.

Lori (00:19.983)
What were the, what was the headlines? Rachel stuff. I got you.

Kelli (00:22.542)
Rachel Zoe's divorce, which I'm sorry, Rachel. Why would you ever think that your divorce wouldn't make page six? Why was she so surprised?

Lori (00:29.583)
Yeah, I didn't get that at all. I didn't get that. was like, yeah, what are you so surprised you're on a Housewives show? What do you think?

Kelli (00:36.864)
And even before that, you're Rachel Zoe. Even if you weren't on Housewives, that shit was gonna be everywhere. I don't know, I was surprised at her reaction to it.

Lori (00:39.375)
Right. Yeah.

Lori (00:43.641)
Yeah, I didn't get it.

Wendy (00:48.266)
I was too. I was too. So we start out with Rachel going over to Erica's house. And I honestly thought that their little banter when she walked in was interesting. Rachel said, I'm not good at weekend dressing, like during the day. She's like, I can do a bathrobe or I can do nighttime clothes. And Erica's like, I can do costumes or sweats. I was like, these two.

Kelli (01:09.944)
Yeah. I get that though. I totally get that. Me too. There's like no in between. I'm either in leggings and a hoodie or jeans and a black top or just to go to work. Yeah.

Lori (01:10.063)
Yeah.

I get that too, because I'm the same way. I'm the same way. Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (01:22.457)
or totally dressed. Yeah. So I like how Rachel says she tends to gravitate towards people who have traits that she doesn't and that she likes that Erica is fearless.

Wendy (01:37.16)
Yeah, which is awesome. Yeah. The two of them are sitting down and they're talking about the Amanda dropping the bomb of the passing of her son at the dinner at her house, at Rachel's house, and about that when they were on the trip to Sedona, how she was talking very loudly in the car in between the two of them, which I...

Lori (01:37.593)
I like that. Yeah.

Wendy (02:03.294)
I don't know why it wasn't, I mean, I'm glad they're at least talking about it now. Like, I can't believe they didn't say something when it was happening.

Kelli (02:09.32)
Exactly.

Lori (02:09.997)
yeah, exactly. Yeah. yeah. Yeah. Cause it was, it was way too much. Look at me. It was way too much.

Wendy (02:19.868)
it was. And then I love that

Kelli (02:21.322)
It was, mean, and they were really, really close. Like, yeah, I mean, I couldn't, I could not imagine doing that. I thought that that was incredibly rude.

Lori (02:25.443)
Mm-hmm like slammed right there

Wendy (02:26.046)
Yeah, they were sitting next to each other.

Yeah, it's crazy.

Lori (02:35.001)
I would have like made up a lie or something. I'd like, dude, like have such a headache. Do think you could call that grow back? So I would say something like that. I'd have to say something because I couldn't take it anymore.

Kelli (02:42.968)
Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, for sure.

Wendy (02:51.316)
I love that Rachel came up with, she feels like Amanda's an airline attendant. She's giving me like 60s Pan Am flight attendant. I'm was laughing at that. I'm like, first of all, it's so descriptive. I could picture exactly what she's saying.

Kelli (03:06.05)
Yeah.

Lori (03:08.325)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Kelli (03:09.496)
Well, her voice, like her voice is very light and airy. Yeah.

Lori (03:12.525)
Yes. Yes. Everyone, please buckle your seat belts. We will be landing in 15 minutes. Beverage trays up.

Kelli (03:18.68)
Yes, exactly.

Tess was, so Tess was watching this with me and she was like, who is that? I think it was just the voice alone.

Lori (03:30.223)
This.

Mm-hmm.

Wendy (03:35.956)
Yeah. So we, I sent a podcast for you guys to listen to that Amanda was on. I honestly, I don't even remember the name of the podcast, who she was even on with. Do you guys know? Not that it matters. I mean, we should give them credit. We definitely should give them credit. But what were your thoughts on it? I mean, she was kind of saying, she was saying that, you know, where she comes from, she's all about like,

Lori (03:46.842)
Let me see.

Kelli (03:47.352)
Well I have it. Yeah I have it right here. Yeah.

Wendy (04:01.958)
lifting people up and like being pro me, like being her biggest cheerleader. And that when she's talking about, you know, all the things that she's done and accomplished, that's just her being her cheerleader. Like she doesn't see it as bragging or like pick me.

Lori (04:18.735)
Yeah, I didn't get that. I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about, So what was the name of the podcast?

Kelli (04:19.426)
Yeah, I think, no, I think she's full of shit. Yeah. The podcast is How's Wives Nightcap.

Lori (04:27.081)
yeah, Housewives Nightcap. And I did notice that they had the little ice jingle like we do. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yes, they do. Mm-hmm. I thought that was pretty funny.

Wendy (04:27.477)
Okay.

Kelli (04:29.036)
Kelli (04:34.674)
really, like we do? that's hysterical. Yeah, no, I think she's full of crap. think that she's definitely, she was definitely trying to, I don't think she's a one upper. I think she felt like she had to do that to fit in with this group. I think like it was like a big, a big D swinging contest, like.

Lori (04:57.064)
Trying to relate kind of thing Yeah

Kelli (05:01.39)
You know, I belong here. Like she said, she thinks she belongs in every room she walks into. So I belong here and this is why. You know what I thought was interesting? In that podcast, she never said I was in a cult. She explained it as she was part of a church group, correct?

Lori (05:07.14)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (05:22.041)
Yes, that was very cult-like, that hit all the parameters for a cult. You know what else I find very interesting is that you had two religion degrees and you didn't know you were in a cult?

Kelli (05:33.186)
Well, but here's the thing, but when Dorit, when they showed what Dorit was talking about, she said, I was in a cult, but she didn't say that on the podcast.

Lori (05:41.221)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (05:41.483)
Right.

Lori (05:43.915)
No. And the whole gig about, I only watched one show, so it's one of two things. Either you're absolutely lying or you're an absolute idiot. Because I don't know who in the world would go on any show and not do, watch every Housewives show that there is, watch every episode. Come on. Come on.

Kelli (05:51.663)
BS.

Kelli (06:06.958)
She is lying and I guarantee you she bought Kyle's house because she thought it would get her on the show.

Lori (06:18.491)
Because she had that, because she said she manifested it. She had it all in her head. So I'm sure.

Kelli (06:18.58)
Absolutely.

Wendy (06:18.752)
I wouldn't doubt it. I wouldn't doubt it either.

Kelli (06:24.012)
I mean, don't get me wrong, it's a beautiful home. Anybody would want it. But if you know that's Kyle Richards' show, and you manifest for a living, you're gonna wanna get on The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.

Lori (06:27.427)
Right. I'm sure played into it. I'm sure.

Right, come on.

Lori (06:40.211)
it was a little crazy. And I also noticed that there's a lot.

Lori (06:48.763)
She does a lot of very intense sighing. A lot. A lot. I noticed at least four sighs. And the podcast was only like 24 minutes. So...

Kelli (06:53.966)
She's very dramatic.

Wendy (07:07.52)
She also said in the podcast.

Kelli (07:07.938)
The number of size outweighed the time of the podcast.

Lori (07:11.18)
lord.

Wendy (07:13.046)
that she wrote down in her journal that she was going to be on a reality TV show. because the podcaster asked her, why would you do this show? And she said, well, was something that I wrote down that I was going to do. It was, you know, I manifested it. I was like, wait.

Kelli (07:32.75)
and I bought Kyle Richards' house so I could do it.

Lori (07:35.577)
right.

Wendy (07:37.088)
Yeah.

Kelli (07:38.36)
Keep up, people.

Lori (07:39.651)
Yeah.

Wendy (07:40.158)
Yeah, I will be surprised if she comes back. I really will.

Kelli (07:44.478)
yeah, I don't think she's coming back. I don't think she's speaking to any of them, Excuse me.

Wendy (07:48.966)
No. No. So the next thing we see is Kyle goes to Canyon Creative Studio and she's meeting up a meeting with Amanda there. It's like a design studio where can get furniture and stuff. And when it makes...

Lori (08:04.667)
I did not like her jorts.

Kelli (08:08.62)
I didn't either.

Lori (08:09.561)
I did, I'm sorry, I just did not. I know I'm no fashionista. I get it, I get it.

Kelli (08:14.826)
I don't like on women, I don't like those long shorts.

Lori (08:19.171)
I don't like them on men. Jorts, jean shorts. No. Just not good. Jorts.

Kelli (08:23.166)
okay. I had more of a problem with the length. But you have the... Okay, I understand.

Lori (08:28.089)
Yeah, Jorts. No. I have both. I have both. Okay, I'm gonna stop.

Wendy (08:34.154)
That's okay.

Kelli (08:34.178)
But I agree.

Wendy (08:36.89)
What did you think of Amanda's dress? She was coming from Newport Beach, so she had the flowery... Okay, that's you. That's so you.

Lori (08:41.379)
I loved her dress, that's so me. I loved it, absolutely. I loved it, yeah, I love that. And everything Rachel Zoe wears, I love. It's just my gag. I loved it. Yes.

Kelli (08:51.448)
Yeah.

Wendy (08:54.538)
Yes, that is your gig. I just thought it was interesting that she had to tell us that she was coming from Newport Beach too, you know.

Lori (09:01.853)
yeah, well.

Kelli (09:01.954)
guess.

Wendy (09:03.958)
And she.

Kelli (09:05.08)
But if you knew her, you would just know that that's because she's just happy.

Lori (09:08.858)
Yes.

Wendy (09:12.43)
Kyle asked her, know, how she was doing. And she said she had such an emotional breakdown. woke up every 30 minutes with her heart pounding. My body was experiencing that interaction as a physiological threat. What? Who talks like this? Like, seriously, who talks like this?

Lori (09:27.129)
Yes. I know. I mean, it's okay to be upset, but your heart pounding every 30 minutes all night long, girl, you need to get a grip. And I loved how this was the best. She said, I don't have emotional breakdowns ever. What are you, a robot? She says, well, I'm a pretty grounded person. And Dorit's behavior was...

Kelli (09:35.372)
Right.

Kelli (09:49.526)
Right, exactly.

Lori (09:57.165)
aggressive and attacking. Do you not know what show you signed up for? Did you? What? Where do you think you're going? Where do think you're going?

Kelli (10:04.76)
Right. And I mean, listen, I don't think Dorit was aggressive at all.

Lori (10:12.475)
I think that if Amanda thinks that that's aggressive, she best hold on. I'd love to see Erica like pissed and tanked up.

Kelli (10:17.326)
She's on the wrong show.

Kelli (10:23.15)
But here's the thing, but it does track because she thought Erika was coming for her by making that comment about whatever astrological sign she is. So astrological, astrona, whatever. All right. Zodiac sign, there you go. But I mean, honey, this isn't the job for you. You manifested the wrong job for yourself.

Wendy (10:33.366)
comment.

Lori (10:36.986)
right.

Wendy (10:37.216)
Her son. Astrological. Zodiac sign.

Lori (10:41.231)
Yeah. Yeah, that thing.

Kelli (10:53.25)
because Erica certainly wasn't coming for you, and Dorit was not being aggressive. She should have let it go, but Dorit was right. Later in the episode, she said Amanda didn't let it go either, and she didn't.

Lori (10:59.034)
Yes.

Lori (11:06.521)
Yeah, she did. She did make a comeback. She did try and explain quickly, which I can see. I mean, Duri really should have. She should have let it go. She should let it go. Absolutely. Yeah.

Kelli (11:10.232)
She did.

Kelli (11:15.95)
She should have let it go. She definitely should have let it go when she mentioned the anniversary of her son's passing, for sure. But she wasn't being aggressive. That's not aggressive. you know, maybe because we're from Jersey, that was not aggressive. I mean, my God. That was like, that was like a church voice.

Lori (11:21.656)
Yeah, absolutely.

Lori (11:26.104)
No.

It's not aggressive, I encounter, right, I encounter more aggression on the roadway, driving to work than your little encounter with Dorit. So, girl.

Wendy (11:29.91)
I think that's it. I think that's it.

Kelli (11:40.885)
f-

Kelli (11:45.218)
Yeah, or ordering a breakfast sandwich, you'll get more aggression out of the person behind the counter. My God. And it's pork roll.

Lori (11:48.149)
Yeah. Yeah. Right.

Wendy (11:51.986)
Listen, I mean, if Kelly comes home and there's someone parked in her parking spot after she cleared out the snow, Kelly, what happens?

Kelli (12:01.528)
don't, I'm telling you right now, I was ready to go. I was ready to pop off. And Joe had to be like, but dad and I will go, we'll take care of it. Cause he knew he was hiding the baseball bats.

Lori (12:15.045)
was he knew.

Lori (12:18.767)
Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Kelli (12:21.016)
Tug that car out. Wendy's husband snowblowed in front. And then Eric and I worked for two and a half hours between the two of us digging out that spot for my daughter to be able to park there.

and then someone's driveway was empty, someone's driveway was empty and one of his vehicles was in that spot. Now imagine me coming home to that.

Wendy (12:36.086)
Cause this is Jersey.

Lori (12:43.797)
No. No, no, it's not good. Okay, so, amands don't move next door.

Wendy (12:44.372)
Not.

No, no.

Kelli (12:52.438)
No, no, if you think that was aggressive, you cannot live here.

Wendy (12:52.512)
Hahaha!

Lori (12:55.631)
Yeah. No. And Amanda was like working so hard to get Kyle to like say something about Duree.

Kelli (13:04.972)
Yeah. And good for Kyle for not, me too. Me too.

Wendy (13:07.434)
I was proud of Kyle, to be honest with you. Yep. I was. said, and Amanda said this twice in the episode. She said, what is inappropriate is verbally accosting somebody to make an accusation with aggression.

Okay, and she says it again. She says it again at the end of the episode. It's like, I feel like she's got these lines in her head.

Lori (13:23.854)
She's out of her element.

Kelli (13:28.226)
You know, it's funny.

Lori (13:30.777)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. yeah.

Kelli (13:31.302)
she does. She's like Heather Gay. She's looking in the mirror and saying what she's gonna say. She's practicing. But you know what's the funniest part is that, remember last week when her husband was like, they don't know you that well. You know, one more wrong move and you'll cut a bitch down. Like she's some tough girl, but you thought that was aggressive. Math isn't math-ing, Amanda.

Lori (13:36.367)
Yes.

Lori (13:44.811)
Mm-hmm. Right, and you cut them off. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Lori (13:53.243)
No, no, And how about when, sorry, how about when Kyle asked her like what bothered her the most? The way she addressed it or that like Dory kept going. And I thought that was a weird question from Kyle. It was...

Kelli (14:19.214)
She was just trying to pinpoint, if she were going to not try to defend Dorit, but continue the conversation, where should I go with what I'm gonna say?

Lori (14:33.315)
Right. Yeah, I don't know.

Wendy (14:39.894)
So the next thing we see is Boze is meeting up with Dorit and her friend Summer is there and we learn a little bit about her friend Summer. Wait, wait, no, something happened before that.

Lori (14:54.461)
wait, one more thing.

One more thing that Amanda says. She says, I will not go to dinner parties feeling emotionally unsafe.

Wendy (15:00.692)
Yeah.

Kelli (15:09.294)
Oh my gosh, Amanda. I mean, I mean, how do you leave the house? If that made you feel emotionally, what does that even mean, emotionally unsafe?

Wendy (15:10.912)
That's right. Right, right.

Lori (15:13.499)
You're with the wrong group, girl.

Wendy (15:16.053)
Right.

Right.

Lori (15:24.421)
But wait, but wait, and then she says, won't have my cortisol spiked and my nervous system become dysregulated. Girl, what?

Kelli (15:34.54)
Right, what are you talking about?

Lori (15:36.891)
And she says, I will have to set, I think she said a fucking, or frigging boundary. And it wouldn't be the first time. And it was so funny because Kyle, like you see the look on her face and she kind of pauses and she goes, right.

Wendy (15:41.034)
Boundaries. Yeah.

Kelli (15:47.771)
yeah, she's like, you're-

I'll tell you what I would never send my kids to school with her kids could you imagine that? Could you imagine the phone calls you would get from her if your kids were going to school with her kids?

Lori (15:55.835)
Ugh.

Wendy (15:56.685)
my gosh.

Wendy (16:01.492)
It's funny because Kyle said, after she said boundaries, Kyle just repeated, yeah, boundaries, okay. It goes like she didn't even know what to do.

Lori (16:07.311)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. It's just like... She didn't know what to do with it. It's funny.

Kelli (16:14.264)
Didn't she say in her confessional, I think you're going to need thicker skin? She's going to need thicker skin.

Lori (16:17.408)
yes, yes, yes, yes,

Wendy (16:19.05)
She did, and she also said, it's giving me crystal mink off, which I was surprised she said that.

Kelli (16:23.118)
I thought that that was so funny and very good to say. I really did.

Wendy (16:33.608)
like Crystal. But then they cut to the scene with Crystal Minkoff and I was like, yeah, okay.

Lori (16:38.448)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (16:38.734)
I liked Crystal too, but I don't think she had thick enough skin for that group of girls. I think she thought she did, but she didn't.

Wendy (16:43.752)
Well, she didn't, she didn't, but she's a different person today. So if Crystal Minkoff came back, we would see, and I would love, I would love for Crystal Minkoff to come back because I love her unhumbled brag. Yeah. So then we do the Bose is meeting up with Dorit and Kyle and we get to meet her friend Summer. She calls her a sister from another mister.

Lori (16:45.657)
Right, but she did.

Lori (16:51.269)
I think she'd be fine. Yeah, I think she'd be good now. I always liked her. Yeah.

Kelli (16:58.05)
Yeah.

Wendy (17:10.07)
They've been friends for 34 years. They met freshman year in high school and she comes to visit once a year. She lives in Oklahoma. I thought it was interesting that Dorit asked her when she moved from Colorado and I was like, well, why would she ask her that? But then Bozen, her confessional said when she landed in Colorado Springs from Ghana, like that was a huge culture shock. So I guess that's where they went to high school is in.

Lori (17:39.193)
Yeah.

Kelli (17:39.308)
Yeah.

Wendy (17:39.69)
which I didn't, I don't know that we knew that. Did we know that?

Kelli (17:42.54)
I don't think we did know that because I thought the same thing. I don't know why I thought she was an East Coast girl.

Lori (17:44.397)
No, I don't think so.

Wendy (17:50.216)
Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

Kelli (17:51.769)
I don't know why, maybe because she worked, did she work in New York when she worked for Pepsi? I don't know. I just pictured her like an East Coast girl.

Lori (17:58.287)
I think she did work in the city. Yeah, I don't know.

Wendy (18:04.458)
Yeah, I don't know. thought it was, first of I thought it was very interesting that we got to meet a friend of hers for so many interactions in one episode, right? I thought that was, I like that, right? Like this is, yeah.

Kelli (18:12.94)
Yes.

Lori (18:16.527)
guess. I like to.

Kelli (18:19.934)
I totally agree. Do you guys think that they're trying to force Rachel's friend Natalie on us? Like why, why, why is she, I mean, maybe she was supposed to be a friend of or something. Yeah. Not force on us. That's a, that's a little extreme. That might be a little aggressive using the word forced.

Wendy (18:26.71)
Little bit.

Lori (18:27.63)
little bit.

Lori (18:34.127)
Yeah, I don't know.

Wendy (18:37.034)
Well, Erica, no, but Eric.

Yeah, that was a little gross. That was a little...

Lori (18:43.599)
Yes, little.

Kelli (18:44.566)
I'm sorry. I apologize. I hope Amanda is emotionally, feels emotionally safe after I use that terminology.

Lori (18:49.509)
Yes, after you say that.

Wendy (18:51.99)
Hope her cortisol level isn't rising.

Lori (18:53.635)
Yes. Fuck with the chorus all the time. Why?

Kelli (19:00.553)
UGH!

Wendy (19:03.292)
Erica likes Natalie. I think Erica is going to be BFFs with Natalie. I think that's why we keep seeing her.

Kelli (19:10.11)
Okay. Alright. Alright.

Lori (19:10.149)
maybe.

Wendy (19:12.042)
That's what I think. That's what I think. I mean, we'll get to it, but that's what I think. Bo's brings up that Summer had a tough divorce also because Kyle and Jareed are sitting there. And she went on to say that she was a stay-at-home mom and her husband was able to get full custody of her kids for the two years it took for it to go to trial. That is crazy.

Kelli (19:16.45)
Yeah, we'll get to it, but.

Kelli (19:40.75)
Well, doesn't it?

Lori (19:42.405)
Well, he was, he was military too. So I think that that might have a little something to do with it. You know, sometimes they finagle shit and I don't know.

Wendy (19:42.474)
That's crazy.

Kelli (19:45.468)
that's right, that's right.

Kelli (19:51.65)
Well, if he was stationed somewhere. If he was moved.

Wendy (19:54.526)
No, he was a JAG. He was an attorney, a judge advocate general. He was a lawyer in the military.

Lori (19:54.564)
Yeah.

Lori (20:00.304)
Well then there you go.

Kelli (20:00.695)
Right, but you can't you still get moved around? I would imagine you don't stay in one place.

Wendy (20:05.478)
She was a stay at home mom. She was a stay at home mom.

Kelli (20:09.068)
No, I know, but I'm saying like if he arranged it so maybe he got moved and stationed somewhere out of state and they're separated so they're not gonna live together. So she's either gonna stay where she is or have to go rent a place. You know what I mean? He might have used the military to his advantage to get that situation set up. That's all I'm saying.

Lori (20:18.499)
and she didn't wanna go? What?

Lori (20:28.089)
Yeah.

Lori (20:32.677)
Who knows what he did.

Wendy (20:33.238)
Well, she said she got to see them every other weekend for two years, so they were close by. Right. Yeah.

Kelli (20:36.366)
Okay, so yeah, so they couldn't have been too far. Yeah, yeah Yeah, right,

Lori (20:40.665)
Yeah, who knows what kind of shenanigans.

Wendy (20:46.998)
So then, know, Dorit's trying to, which I thought this was a little odd, Dorit's trying to ask Kyle all these questions, like with an audience.

Lori (20:56.377)
I thought it was rude. I thought it was really rude because not only are you asking it, you're asking it in front of somebody's cows never even met. Like, what are you doing? What are you doing?

Wendy (21:04.414)
Yeah.

Kelli (21:06.072)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (21:07.702)
Yes.

Lori (21:08.943)
I would have been like, ooh, not now, No.

Wendy (21:12.98)
Yeah. She's like, let me ask you a question. Kyle, when you first saw the pictures of Mo with other women, did it ever cross your mind to file? And Kyle's like, yeah. And Boz is like, well, why didn't you? And she's like, listen, it's a very big decision. I had to consider everything. It's not just me, it's everybody.

Lori (21:34.127)
Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of moving parts to that.

Wendy (21:36.916)
Yeah. And then she goes on to say, and listen, I think she was very vulnerable in this episode. I really do. My heart broke for her.

Kelli (21:42.543)
my God. Like I said, Tess was watching it with me and she was like, I feel so bad for her. Like every, like I was like, I know, I know. Like she's obviously still in love with him and wants to be with him. Like I agree with you. She was extremely vulnerable. It was nice to, I feel bad that she's feeling the way she's feeling, but it was nice to see her.

Lori (21:44.783)
Yes.

Lori (21:48.985)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Wendy (21:57.013)
Right.

Lori (22:07.567)
Like real emotions, yep.

Kelli (22:09.036)
Yes. Yep.

Wendy (22:11.188)
Yeah. You know, she talked about being feeling invisible. And, you know, she talked about in her confessional how they traveled together. And, you know, we see that, you know, he sleeps in one room, she sleeps in another room. And in the morning when they're getting coffee or they're out doing activities, he's not even really interacting with her. It's she feels invisible then too. And that's got to be hard, you know?

Lori (22:33.741)
Mm-hmm. Horrible. Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (22:36.078)
Absolutely after spending that much time with someone so many years like he

Lori (22:39.504)
Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (22:40.042)
Yeah.

Lori (22:44.079)
I don't know, it kinda gets to a point though when it's at that point that yeah, you know, it's nice if you can keep things cordial and still spend time together with the children. like going away and renting a house together when you're in that situation, it's really not a good gig, cause your kids are gonna know. Your kids are gonna know how... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just don't think it's a...

Kelli (23:06.316)
It's just a reminder that you're not with him anymore. And if he's acting like where you feel you're not seen, it's also a reminder that his attention is elsewhere.

Lori (23:17.601)
Elsewhere yeah, I just don't think it's a good. I don't think it's a good gig

Wendy (23:22.494)
Yeah. And then the next thing Dorit says, you know, so can I ask you something friend to friend? Do you think that in the back of your mind, the reason why you wouldn't file is that maybe there's a chance that you two might, and just as she's about to say reconcile, Mo walks up to the table.

Lori (23:42.809)
Now I watched Watch What Happens Live. Yeah, Watch What Happens Live.

Kelli (23:42.978)
Yeah, how about that?

Kelli (23:48.866)
Bose was on. wait no, Kyle and Kathy and Paris. Okay.

Lori (23:55.31)
Yes, and they, what she said was that, and I don't believe this either, as opposed to him, I don't believe it. She said, Mo was walking by outside and saw our production crew, so they mic'd him up. Bulls, Timmy, you know what? Bullshit. That was scripted, that was planned way ahead of time. Stop it, stop it, stop it. No, buddy.

Wendy (24:02.868)
I believe it. I believe it.

Wendy (24:20.15)
I don't think it was.

Kelli (24:20.428)
I think you're right. I think you're right because of his interaction with Bose. Where she was like, you know, I almost, you know, whatever. I think you're right. I think you're right. Just the fact that he pulled the seat up and sat down.

Lori (24:28.016)
It was, it it was so scripted. It was so scripted. And Dorit-

Come on, stop it. Dorit was going, she was really, she was busting some balls though. She says, I'm gonna message you at will. I'm gonna call you, you know, several, I'm gonna keep calling you and messaging you. She was kinda.

Kelli (24:54.378)
hell yeah she was.

Lori (24:56.143)
Yeah.

Wendy (24:57.984)
I'll be honest, when he sat down and Dorit said to him, have you ever thought about filing? I was like, it is not your place to do that. It's just not your place to do that.

Lori (25:04.623)
That was just so rude. It was so rude. I'd be really pissed at her.

Kelli (25:09.3)
No, was one thing talking amongst the four of them, especially because Bo started the conversation out by saying, her girlfriend, I forget her name, she went through a bad divorce, Summer, she went through a bad divorce. So obviously, we knew where the conversation was headed. So amongst the four of them talking about filing and why he didn't file and whatever, one thing, but when Bo sits down, like he,

Wendy (25:22.826)
Summer.

Kelli (25:38.828)
just got there, we're supposed to believe, right? And didn't know what they were talking about. So it's like, would, yeah, why like hit him with that? And by the way, Dorit, it's not your business.

Lori (25:41.179)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (25:41.75)
I believe it.

Lori (25:50.137)
It was just...

No, it was really rude. And I think that I would have been really pissed. I thought it was really, really rude. Especially how she kept going in on it. Like she said it twice. I'm going to call you. She said, I'm going to message you at will. She was...

Kelli (25:56.63)
It's really not our business either.

Wendy (25:57.205)
Yeah.

Kelli (26:09.794)
Yeah.

Kelli (26:13.826)
Well, she was doing that because of the whole Kyle texting PK thing.

Lori (26:16.155)
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Wendy (26:21.246)
Yeah, at least we all agree that it was a totally inappropriate place to have the conversation with Summer there.

Lori (26:26.253)
inappropriate. And I thought it was hysterical. thought, Bose was just had like little hearts popping in her eyes. She was just like, Ooh, Mauricio. Okay. It was funny. It was funny. Yeah. You could see her like,

Kelli (26:37.484)
yeah, well she said it in her confessional, like I get it.

Mm-hmm. I don't think he's aging well though. You know what? God bless. He's fine. He was always a very attractive guy though. I mean he got hottest house husband, housewife husband for years on Watch What Happens Live.

Lori (26:57.957)
no, he's got game. He's definitely got game. He's got game. He's definitely got game.

Wendy (26:58.912)
Yes, you did.

Kelli (27:00.23)
That's the thing, he's got game. So he might not be aging very well, but yeah, he's got game, he's very charming. He can get it. Mo can get it.

Wendy (27:03.402)
He is charming.

Lori (27:06.159)
He's got game. Yeah. Yep. He's got game.

Wendy (27:14.614)
So also Mo and Dorit decide that they're going to sit down and talk. And Dorit says to Mo that I just, you know, I want you to listen to me. And Mo said that he's not, he's going to listen to her and he's not going to talk, which I think is good. And he's just going to listen to what she has to say and he's not going to talk. And then she said, you, you know, after you've listened to what I have to say, if you could, you know, communicate what's going on with PK, like,

what you thought about what I had to say. I was like...

Kelli (27:47.842)
No, that's not his place.

Lori (27:48.077)
It's an awfully big ask though. It's a big ask.

Wendy (27:50.974)
It is a big ask.

Kelli (27:51.971)
I mean, I guess she's grasping at straws though, because if he doesn't talk to her and they're only communicating through a business manager and they're not communicating that much, I guess it's a big ask, but it's maybe all she feels she has right now.

Lori (28:04.783)
Well, she's got, yeah, but it is a lot to ask.

Kelli (28:11.02)
Yeah. He's such a salesman though. She's like, I want you to hear my side. And he's like, I'd be thrilled to hear your side. I don't think you're really thrilled. Well, to have to sit through this luncheon.

Lori (28:11.343)
Definitely not.

Wendy (28:11.796)
Yeah, yeah.

Lori (28:17.093)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

No.

Wendy (28:25.854)
Honestly though, I like that he set that boundary. He said, I will sit down and completely listen to you without a response. I like that he said, I'm not gonna respond to what you're saying. I'll listen to you because I think that initially what she wanted is to have a conversation. And he's making it clear that there's not gonna be a conversation. PK is my friend. I'll listen to what you have to say. Right. Right, right.

Lori (28:38.874)
Right.

Lori (28:44.099)
Right. Yeah.

Lori (28:50.243)
Right. Right. Right.

Kelli (28:50.37)
P.K. is still his friend, and she has to respect that,

Wendy (28:58.324)
So,

Wendy (29:02.926)
Then Bose brings up, like, you know, we have to talk about what happened at that dinner. And Dorit's like, well, I said to Amanda that she had an opinion about how I communicate about what's going on with PK during the divorce. And she shut down the conversation and said it was the anniversary of her son's passing. And Bose is like, well, after you said, I'm sorry, did you go back to the conversation? And she's like, oh yeah, I did.

and but

Lori (29:34.757)
I think Boze even said, well, why'd you do that? Why'd you do that? He said, why'd do that? Yeah.

Kelli (29:35.03)
And Bo's kinda asked her like, yeah, she, yeah.

Wendy (29:41.95)
And the whole time I'm watching Kyle and she's just sitting there so awkwardly. And then she finally jumps in and she's like, listen, I saw Amanda today and we had a very long conversation and she asked me not to say anything. She wants to talk to you, which I'm glad that she said that too. You know, I'm glad she said that. Cause she, I mean, the look on her face when those two were talking, it was like, you could see it was, she was like, she felt awkward. You could see it all over her face.

Lori (29:58.864)
Yes.

Kelli (30:08.962)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (30:11.732)
So then Bo said, you need to follow up to Dorie. And she's like, listen, I've lost a baby. I know that pain. There's a very stark difference with, hey, I want to share this with you because this is what I'm feeling. Like somebody's trying to address something with you. And then you throw it up. I felt like the way she said that is that.

She feels like Amanda was weaponizing that to stop the conversation. And I don't know that that's a fit.

Kelli (30:47.756)
I do think that that's what, I agree. Yeah, I do think that that's Boz was saying. Yeah, right.

Wendy (30:51.358)
I don't think it's fair. Yeah, I don't think that's fair.

Lori (30:53.839)
Yeah, I don't think that's fair either. No, I don't think it's fair either.

Wendy (30:57.608)
I don't, mean, you know, cause then she went on to say, listen, I could say at any time, you know, my, my husband's dead and my baby died too, but I don't do that. Okay. You don't do that, but that's you. And

Lori (31:10.383)
Rape.U

Kelli (31:11.138)
Right.

Wendy (31:16.456)
I don't know. thought

Kelli (31:16.502)
No, I agree. Nobody should ever judge the way someone grieves. Right. Right. And what she said was, can't, I'm not good, like, I'm not in my right head space right now to hold this conversation. That's really what she said. Not, please stop doing that because it's the anniversary. Just, my mind is preoccupied right now. I'm here, but I'm...

Lori (31:20.505)
You handle something like that, yeah.

Lori (31:33.979)
Right. To just, right, to hold the conversation. Right. That's,

Wendy (31:36.554)
Right.

Lori (31:42.638)
No.

Kelli (31:45.964)
Mentally, I'm not 100%.

Lori (31:47.267)
Yeah. Yep. Yep.

Wendy (31:49.216)
Right. Actually, even in her confessional, Bo says that she feels like she's throwing it up as a defense. She uses it as currency. That was the one that I was really like, ooh, that's not, that's not, I just don't think it's right. I don't think it's right to put such.

Kelli (32:02.627)
Yeah.

Lori (32:06.319)
Yeah, no.

Kelli (32:06.582)
No, that was pretty harsh.

Wendy (32:11.318)
And then Doreen brings up about the book and then how she looked it up and she went to the website. And then again, Kyle's face again, Kyle's like, wait, what? Like a cult? Maybe I should go check out her website. I feel like Kyle had no idea.

Kelli (32:27.214)
So it said on her website, I was in a cult. So that's what I'm saying, but on that podcast that we listened to, she doesn't say that, and she just makes it like she was part of a church.

Lori (32:37.083)
Mm-mm.

Mm-hmm.

Kelli (32:41.752)
So there's a difference. There's a discrepancy.

Lori (32:44.461)
I like how Bo says, yeah, I like how Bo's was like, homegirls in a cult. Love her. Love her.

Wendy (32:50.986)
Yes.

Kelli (32:55.064)
She does have great one-liners, Boaz. Excuse me.

Lori (32:57.089)
It does.

Wendy (33:01.408)
She does. The next thing we see is we're at Rachel Zoe's house and she's freaking out. First I was like, what is she freaking out about? Like, is there a party going on? There was some balloons. And Matt was sitting there. He goes, that's a party. Those are lame decorations. I was like, yeah, you're right. And then all of a sudden we find out it's about the headlines, about, you know, she filed for divorce. And she was so shocked.

Lori (33:26.287)
Yeah. Made no sense. I guess that was just trying to get a scene. I don't know.

Kelli (33:29.198)
I don't understand why sh-

Kelli (33:35.119)
And she's TMZ, page six, she's announcing everyone who reported on it. You're shocked and seemingly upset that people are reporting on your divorce, however cameras are on you right now and you're repeating all of the social media outlets that are putting your divorce on blast. Like, Rachel, Rachel.

Lori (33:57.765)
outlets that we can look.

Right. So we can now look. Yeah. I know. Yeah.

Wendy (34:08.544)
So then the next thing we see is Kyle and Mo are going over to Amanda's house to get to see their old house to tour it. I did not know that that was the reason that I thought they were over there for a party and it just kind of happened. I had no idea that the whole reason them going over there was to see the house.

Kelli (34:17.56)
This is hard to watch.

Lori (34:27.289)
Now I want to ask you a question. I wouldn't have felt it was weird if Kyle just went. I thought it was a little odd that Mo went. I just found it odd. was just like, I don't know.

Kelli (34:40.846)
I honestly thought it was because he's in real estate and that's why he would want to see what they did to the house. I mean, that's, but I agree with you. He's not on the show, but he certainly was this episode, right?

Lori (34:45.219)
I guess. Yeah, I guess. I guess. Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (34:53.455)
Yeah, was this kind of... Odd, yeah.

Wendy (34:57.982)
Yeah.

Lori (35:00.399)
But that had to be so hard for Kyle. Horrible. Horrible.

Kelli (35:05.272)
Yeah, I mean that was hard to watch. That was another scene where Tess was like, my god, I feel so bad for her.

Lori (35:11.407)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Wendy (35:13.716)
It was really hard to watch and Mo's doing the tour and Mo's like, wow, that looks great. This is great. I'm just like, first of all, I'll be honest with you, except for the foyer and the change of the floors, I didn't really see anything that was so different, right?

Kelli (35:15.638)
Yeah.

Lori (35:26.863)
that big of a difference. Nope. Nope. Nope.

Kelli (35:29.45)
She changed like colors like it was you know, right

Lori (35:32.549)
Big deal. Yeah, no, there was no big, will wo change. No, no, it wasn't any big.

Wendy (35:35.819)
Right?

Kelli (35:36.458)
She didn't knock walls down. Well, remember she said at one point she was buying the house to flip it. She said that. She wasn't planning on staying there. And then once they did all the work, yeah.

Wendy (35:38.964)
And honestly,

Wendy (35:49.696)
That's right, she did.

Lori (35:49.723)
So she said.

Wendy (35:55.019)
I don't know. I liked it better before. That's just me. I don't know.

Kelli (36:00.975)
That's because we like Kyle, and we don't really like Amanda.

Wendy (36:03.114)
That's probably it. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, even when, you know, they walk in the room where the bar is and Kyle's like, my gosh, we had so many great parties here. And then they start showing all the parties that were there. Like,

Kelli (36:06.862)
Let's call it what it is.

Lori (36:19.493)
Hmm.

Kelli (36:19.896)
That was hard to watch all the flashbacks. Tess was like, they seem so happy. I'm like, I know this is one of the biggest, the most shocking divorces, I think, on Bravo.

Wendy (36:22.612)
Yeah, and I'm thinking like that's what's going on.

Wendy (36:34.346)
Yeah.

Lori (36:34.393)
And meanwhile he's just like, yeah, the backsplash tile looks great in the bar.

Kelli (36:38.828)
Yeah!

Lori (36:41.911)
And when she sat down and she was so upset, he was such a tool, an absolute tool. I'm like, she says she's upset and he's like, really?

Wendy (36:56.832)
He had no idea.

Kelli (36:57.262)
I mean, no hug, no-

Lori (36:58.947)
I mean, is he just like heartless or does he just like totally not ever think about it? Like what's wrong with him? There's something wrong.

Kelli (37:08.366)
feel like he used to be much more comfortable on camera than he is now. He doesn't seem very comfortable on camera.

Lori (37:17.445)
I don't know. He was, I'm just saying he was just an absolute tool, an absolute tool.

Kelli (37:21.964)
I thought he would give her a hug.

Lori (37:25.317)
There's something wrong with him. Asking why she feels sad. Hello? Hello? And you know, she should have said to him to his face the things that she said in the confession. Confessional.

Kelli (37:27.766)
Yeah, he's he's checked out

Yeah.

Kelli (37:38.604)
I mean, listen, maybe hopefully she has. She's, cause she said on Watch What Happens Live, he does not watch the show. So he's not going to say it unless she told him. Right.

Wendy (37:45.514)
Right. He's not going to see it. So what she said in her confessional is, when I look at my life now, where I'm at, it's extremely different. I can't help but think of how things used to be. Why would anyone let that slip away?

Kelli (37:59.757)
Right. Right.

Wendy (38:01.204)
Like that right there, was like, ugh.

It's heartbreaking to me, it's heartbreaking.

Kelli (38:08.098)
Yes. Yeah. That was hard to watch.

Lori (38:09.155)
Yeah, that was bad.

Wendy (38:11.818)
And then she also said, you know, maybe we wouldn't have been separated if we stayed in that house. I don't know. Of course, I think like that because my last memory in that house is of us being happy.

Lori (38:23.877)
Copy, right.

Wendy (38:26.23)
And then she kind of leaves abruptly. She's like, just want to go get my car. And Mo's like, all right, well, let's just do that. And she yells up to Amanda, we're leaving. And Amanda could see because she put her glass. I mean, she was very upset. And I don't blame her.

Lori (38:40.443)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (38:40.802)
I don't blame her either, I would have been a mess. And she said on Watch What Happens Live, when Andy said that was hard to watch, she was like, right after I moved out of that house, I was burglarized and everything was taken from me. So these are life-changing events that happened in that time.

Wendy (38:43.838)
Yeah, I know. I would have too.

Lori (38:55.098)
Mm-hmm.

Right.

Wendy (38:58.698)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (39:03.062)
I didn't realize it, to be honest with you, until later on in the episode when Kyle and Amanda were talking about it to, I think, Rachel. And she said that she moved out of that house in 2017. I didn't realize she'd been out of that house for so long. And then she rented it out to various people until 2021 when Amanda bought it.

Kelli (39:18.892)
No, me neither.

Lori (39:24.005)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (39:25.908)
and she made it known that she paid for it, not her fiance.

Kelli (39:28.485)
that was.

Lori (39:31.589)
Yeah. Yeah, come on. You couldn't throw your husband a solid on that one?

Kelli (39:38.942)
I mean like what I I like where's their role he has to be watching this being like What did you just say on camera for the whole world?

Lori (39:40.867)
I was kind of whatever.

Wendy (39:41.002)
fiance.

Lori (39:51.56)
I feel like, I feel like he's a little whipped.

Kelli (39:57.72)
Wow.

Lori (39:57.878)
I feel like she's big wearing the big girl panties over there and he just lets that one go.

Kelli (40:06.062)
There's something a little off about them.

Lori (40:08.527)
Yes, almost definitely.

Wendy (40:09.684)
A little?

Kelli (40:11.2)
Yeah, like they're really like in there really I don't know I hate to say that I believe in karma So don't need that shit coming around to bite me in the ass Yeah, I don't want to I don't want to have an opinion about their relationship though, whatever they're fine, they're great they're gonna make

Lori (40:19.675)
Well, you can have an opinion about something.

Lori (40:27.547)
Okay, whatever you want to do, Kelly. Whatever's good for you,

Wendy (40:34.294)
But she's ready to throw down for a parking space. I'm just going to put that out

Lori (40:37.219)
Yeah.

Kelli (40:37.678)
Hell yeah I am. Two and a half hours we were out there breaking up that ice like Yukon Cornelius.

Wendy (40:41.046)
.

Lori (40:44.857)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Kelli (40:48.194)
Dear Lord.

Lori (40:49.241)
Lord, I know. It was very icy.

Wendy (40:50.89)
Okay.

Kelli (40:51.43)
A driveway for four cars empty and you got that car parked in front of my house? No. No.

Wendy (40:58.326)
So funny. I so like pushing that button.

Lori (41:01.787)
You

Kelli (41:02.648)
Well, thank God, you know, I went to bring Bill the rum and, I said, as I'm walking out, I said, I'm getting his number from Bill. And that's when Joe was like, you do not have to do that. Dad or I will talk to him face to face. Thank God when I walked out, the car was back in the driveway. He said, because poor Bill, poor Bill would have gotten my, give me his number.

Lori (41:22.437)
Good, thank

Lori (41:27.333)
Yeah.

Wendy (41:27.562)
I'm gonna give it to, I'm gonna let him know under no circumstances are you to give this number to Kelly. Under no circumstances. Although I'll be honest with you. I don't know, I don't know how well that's gonna be enforced because I will tell you guys this. He and I went to Costco today.

Lori (41:31.119)
Give him yes, please. That's a good plan, Wen. It's a good plan.

Kelli (41:39.298)
Yeah, it's good call. It's a good call.

Wendy (41:50.134)
Because Matthew's tire he needs a new tire so we both went so could just drop it off at the tire center long story short We couldn't get the tire fixed they had the silver bars in he's been wanting to get the 10 ounce silver bar We get the silver bar and I said to him Do not tell the children that we bought the silver bar. I don't know what I'm doing with it I'm putting it in the safe. Do not tell the children I Get home he gets home before me because he had the different vehicle

He was going to Tire's Tires, they were closed. I'm unloading the car, Matt's like, I want to see the silver bar. I was like, what are you talking about? What are you talking about? And Bill's like, I tried, I tried not to tell. I was like, what is wrong with you? Like, what is wrong with you? What is wrong with you?

Lori (42:21.403)
Everybody knows about Singapore.

Lori (42:26.627)
Hehehehehe

Kelli (42:36.238)
my god, that's so funny.

Lori (42:39.995)
funny.

Kelli (42:40.824)
That is hysterical.

Wendy (42:42.496)
So I can make no promises. I will give them the instructions. All right. Back at the party. It's the day of the party. All the good ladies are arriving at the restaurant and Bo's brings her friend Summer.

Lori (42:44.805)
Yeah, obviously.

Kelli (42:45.708)
Yeah, it's a good call though. It's a good call. Don't give it to me. Don't give it to me. Yeah.

Lori (42:48.795)
Yeah.

Lori (43:03.951)
Wait, I like how when Erica, but I like when Erica was getting ready, I think she's funny. She was telling her glam team. Yeah, she said the night was a disaster talking about Rachel's party, but the look held on, which is kind of what matters the most. Talking about her red outfit that she wore to Rachel's. I just thought that was really funny.

Kelli (43:04.994)
Rachel brings Natalie.

Wendy (43:08.0)
was

Wendy (43:15.04)
Glam's, yeah.

Kelli (43:27.022)
I loved her denim outfit at her birthday dinner. Loved that. I would have worn that to the club for sure circa 1996.

Lori (43:31.471)
Yeah, so cute.

Wendy (43:34.335)
Yes.

Lori (43:35.131)
But I just thought it was funny when she said that. Yes. Yeah.

Yes.

Wendy (43:43.476)
Well, as soon as Rachel sees Erica, she said, you're giving me full 80s alaya moment right now. I was like, 80s alaya, she's back. Did you catch that?

Lori (43:50.255)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Kelli (43:53.928)
I didn't hear the- no, I didn't hear the the other Aliyah reference.

Wendy (44:00.256)
Right.

Kelli (44:01.848)
Very Melrose, very Melrose.

Lori (44:04.485)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (44:04.564)
Yep. So then Natalie walks in, Rachel's friend, and Kyle said, my god, that purse. And it's a lavender hair dryer, Moshimo, Moshino bag. How much was it? $900.

Lori (44:20.675)
I did not like it. I didn't like it. I didn't like it.

Kelli (44:20.984)
That was pretty cute.

Kelli (44:25.378)
I mean, I wouldn't use it, but it was cute. Eric and I went to Joe's game Thursday night and a woman from the other team walked in. She had a blinged out basketball pocketbook. It was adorable.

Lori (44:37.979)
That's cute, that's cute, that's cute.

Wendy (44:38.496)
Love it.

Lori (44:42.873)
And I like funky bags, like I like that kind of thing that I just, I don't know, I just didn't like the hair, I just didn't like it. Yeah.

Kelli (44:49.004)
The hairdryer. Well, it's an odd shape for a pocketbook. Like, where, what are you putting in there? Right?

Lori (44:54.265)
Yeah, it's just, no.

Wendy (44:55.478)
It's not about what you're, it's not about that. It's about the accessory. It's just the accessory.

Kelli (44:57.834)
I know. I know. I mean, least the basketball is a big ball. You could throw shit in there. Your keys, your phone, the hairdryer. Lipstick? Your lipstick?

Lori (45:00.315)
I don't know. I just didn't like it.

Lori (45:08.005)
And I like how Amanda at the birthday party told Kyle, it's okay to not hold it together all the time. Okay, unlike you who does not become, you know.

Kelli (45:22.806)
emotionally unsafe.

Lori (45:24.483)
Yes.

Kelli (45:26.56)
You

Wendy (45:27.732)
Yeah, she said that to Kyle when Kyle was telling Rachel about what happened when she went to Amanda's house. And Dorit is the last to arrive and Kyle asks Amanda if she's nervous and she's like, no, no, I feel good. And as Dorit walks in, Amanda says to Kyle, what time are we supposed to be here? And Kyle just laughs because we know she was late. I mean, she didn't give us the time, but we know she was late.

Lori (45:34.107)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (45:49.31)
huh.

Kelli (45:54.723)
Yeah, she was the last one to walk in and she had some entrance, didn't she? With the camera. Like I feel like the camera crew did their thing with her entrance.

Wendy (45:58.58)
Yes.

Lori (46:01.483)
yeah, Yes. yeah, production was working on that.

Wendy (46:01.578)
Yeah.

I thought it was odd.

Kelli (46:04.876)
Listen, Dorit looks amazing. The one look she had at that, was it at the lunch where she looked like Sandra Day when they were singing, you're the one that I want at the end of Grease?

Lori (46:08.646)
absolutely.

Wendy (46:17.078)
I don't know, is that the look she had?

Kelli (46:18.284)
with the black pants and the low cut black top off the shoulder. was very, you're the one that I want in Greece. And I loved it. I think Dorit looks amazing.

Lori (46:27.054)
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Yes, she does.

Wendy (46:30.804)
No, she does. She does. I thought it was odd that Rachel kind of ran up to greet Dorit and she hugged her and she's singing Happy Birthday. And she's like, I wasn't hiding anything. I was like, why does she feel the need to explain that to Dorit? The fact that the divorce news came out.

Lori (46:49.561)
Yeah, I didn't know what she was talking about. I didn't know what she was talking about.

Kelli (46:52.724)
Maybe they had conversations that we didn't see because obviously Dorit is very interested in who's filing and when because she's grilling Kyle about it. So maybe she and Rachel had a conversation that we didn't see and maybe Rachel was like, I don't know what I'm doing. And then she did it. And she didn't want Dorit to think she was hiding something from her.

Lori (47:01.379)
Yes, obviously. Yes.

Lori (47:07.502)
Right.

Right, right, right, and then she did it.

Right. Maybe that's it. Yeah.

Wendy (47:14.26)
That's probably it. That's probably it because I thought to myself.

Kelli (47:16.226)
But again, it's not really Dorit's business. As Dolores would say, it's none of your business.

Lori (47:19.342)
now.

Wendy (47:20.104)
Right! Right!

Wendy (47:25.746)
No, it's not because I felt like why does Rachel feel the need to explain herself to Dorit and she's like, I, you know, I still grieve this relationship. it's, it's, she spent more than half her life with this man. Like, and then she went on to say that, you know, she misses the old him and the person that that's there now is not him. And he hasn't been for a long time.

Lori (47:42.597)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (47:46.063)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (47:49.534)
I guess we're going to hear more about this now that the news is, now that she's filed.

Lori (47:56.058)
Now the cat's out of the bag. So does

Wendy (47:58.312)
Right. And then Natalie starts talking about how attractive her masseuse was and how she wound up having sex while she was having a massage. And they're like a happy ending. And Erica was like, you got to text me that number. Like, this is the hottest experience ever.

Kelli (47:58.499)
Yeah.

Lori (48:09.795)
Happy ending.

Lori (48:18.554)
Yeah.

Kelli (48:21.112)
So, funny.

Lori (48:21.273)
The best, the best was when Cathy Hilton said, she's so funny. said, they're going to legitimize this soon, think. Legalize it. Yeah. Legalize it soon. Yeah. So funny.

Wendy (48:28.502)
Legalize. Legalize it. Legalize it. Yep.

Kelli (48:28.942)
They're gonna legalize it.

Wendy (48:35.092)
And Jennifer Tilly said, I don't want to be on that table after her. Like, I wouldn't either.

Lori (48:38.659)
Yeah. and Bo says, you know, you'd have to have an ax murder where the chainsaw couldn't get, have gotten that information out of me. That was funny.

Wendy (48:49.642)
Right.

Kelli (48:50.862)
I mean, as she said, he was really hot, right? Like, just, have so many questions. Like, it was such a Denise Richards moment, right? When she said that about hers, like, do you ask for it? Do you, like, do you, like, pay a certain amount so they know it should happen? Like, how does this work? I would have had so many more questions.

Wendy (48:55.83)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (49:05.827)
Right. How did it, yeah. How does that, how does, no, right, right.

Yeah. Yes, yes, yes.

Wendy (49:18.602)
I'm sure Erica asked all the questions.

Kelli (49:20.276)
I feel like she and Erica had a more in-depth private conversation about it.

Lori (49:20.702)
yes.

Lori (49:24.848)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (49:25.118)
I'm telling you, her and Erica, they're gonna be BFFs. I really think that's why we keep seeing Natalie. Because even when she showed up in that outfit, Erica's like, yeah, she's my kind of girl.

Lori (49:34.426)
Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (49:34.829)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (49:38.976)
So Dorit sits down right across from Amanda and Amanda gets up and walks away. And then I thought it was interesting. Kyle starts talking, you how she want to celebrate everyone. And Dorit was about to stop her because Amanda wasn't there, but she didn't stop her. And Kyle continued, which was fine. I think it was fine. And as soon as Amanda comes back, Dorit said, I'm glad to see you. Last time we saw each other, like, wasn't all that great.

Kelli (49:59.087)
Yeah, totally.

Wendy (50:08.522)
You know, it was a heavy moment. We didn't particularly leave in a great place. And Amanda said, well, would you like to go somewhere and speak about it? And Jeree said, no, we could talk about it right here.

Lori (50:16.059)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (50:23.281)
I don't know. mean...

Kelli (50:24.814)
Well, that's what Amanda says. I want to be able to come to a dinner party and not be verbally accosted. And Dorit was like, like clutch the pearls.

Wendy (50:34.198)
She actually said, whoa, whoa, whoa, like four times, whoa, whoa. I was like, okay, Dory.

Wendy (50:44.722)
I don't know. It was a to be continued. But I mean,

Kelli (50:44.909)
I know.

Well, I'm curious to see, well, Bo's was funny, because she was like, you want me look up the word? And Bo's is like, now we're going to the dictionary? Like, I do feel like, and I probably don't do this a lot on the podcast, but I do feel like if you're gonna use a word like that, you should probably know the definition prior to using it in that manner, right?

Wendy (51:10.026)
definitely. And I mean, I think she said I looked it up. I'm using it correctly. Didn't she even say that?

Kelli (51:11.329)
Yeah.

Kelli (51:17.676)
I think she did, so maybe she was pulling up the definition so she could read it to them. But I'm curious to see how the other ladies react.

Lori (51:21.701)
for everyone else.

Wendy (51:27.648)
But this is the thing, like...

She didn't want to have the conversation at the table with everybody there. It was a private conversation that needed to be had.

Kelli (51:39.383)
I feel like Dorit did the right thing by saying it because I bet you Kyle, off camera, told Dorit, this is what she's saying. You verbally accosted her. She felt emotionally unsafe. So Dorit was probably like, no, no, we're gonna have this conversation right here. You're gonna say these ridiculous things. You're gonna say them to my face in front of everybody who was also sitting at that table when this went down.

Lori (51:51.365)
Mm-hmm.

huh.

Right.

In front of everyone. In front of everyone.

Lori (52:05.189)
Right.

Lori (52:08.569)
Yeah, could they? That makes sense. Yeah.

Wendy (52:08.808)
Okay, that would make sense. That would definitely make sense.

Kelli (52:11.202)
Right. Yeah.

Wendy (52:14.518)
So we're gonna have to wait and see. Wait till next week to see what happens.

Kelli (52:16.184)
We sure are.

Lori (52:18.149)
So on Watch What Happens Live, it was Paris, Kathie, and Kyle. And Kathie Hilton pulled all kinds of stuff out of her pocketbook, as she always does. And she pulled out a thing of old tater tots from Sonic.

Kelli (52:37.206)
And Andy ate one and was like, ooh, these are cold.

Lori (52:38.427)
at the end of the day.

Kelli (52:43.734)
Listen, I don't mind Paris Hilton. I was never a huge fan. Whatever. It's her shtick. the pushing of the merch, was way too much. I was getting annoyed. Of course she was. I thought it crossed the line.

Lori (52:57.371)
Products. yeah. yeah. She's marching on Yes, she's doing it on purpose. She's doing a purpose I Think she was trying to be funny No, she was trying to be funny

Wendy (53:04.598)
was funny. I thought it was funny.

Wendy (53:12.406)
She was trying to be funny. I thought what I thought was even funnier is Kyle sitting in between Paris and Kathy. And like the two of them are just like.

Lori (53:19.917)
Uh-huh. With their mirrors and all their stuff. And I thought it was interesting. Kathy Hilton says she loves Mary from Real Housewives of Lake.

Wendy (53:24.382)
Yeah, I thought it was hysterical.

Kelli (53:30.327)
Yeah

Wendy (53:32.618)
my gosh. And them trying to guess the ages when, my gosh, when, Andy asked Kathy and Kyle how old Lisa, Lisa Vanderpump was. And Kathy's like, Kathy's like, I don't, I don't know. fifth, what did she say? Yeah. And, and Kyle's like, Kathy, come on. And what did she say? She said.

Lori (53:35.419)
Oh, that was so...

Kelli (53:46.51)
What's?

Kelli (53:51.79)
She's like, I'm trying to do the math. Kyle was like, Kathy!

Lori (53:53.795)
Yeah, I was trying to do the math.

Kelli (53:58.691)
Like, you've been- you've probably been to every birthday party for her up until Kyle, you know, until she left the show.

Lori (54:02.44)
Right. Right.

Wendy (54:05.396)
Right. And then she gave some ridiculous number, like what did she say 45 or something so stupid?

Lori (54:10.347)
I don't remember what you said, it was funny. Yeah.

Kelli (54:10.926)
She said 56, I think. 56, 57, and she was 65. I swear, just, because I just rewatched it with Tess. I think she said 56 or 57. They said 44 or 45 for Mary Cosby, who was 55, I believe, right? Larissa Pippen was 51, because I was like, damn, Larissa Pippen looks a lot younger than me, and I'm 51.

Wendy (54:14.326)
No, I think she said younger than Kyle.

Lori (54:22.789)
Yeah, it was funny though.

Wendy (54:23.048)
I think she said younger than Kyle.

Lori (54:26.883)
It was funny.

Wendy (54:31.222)
51? I don't know.

Wendy (54:40.96)
She does not look younger than you. She's had all... No, no, absolutely not. No. No, she does not. And think of all the work she's had. She looks... No, no, no, no, no. No, she does not look younger than you. Stop.

Kelli (54:42.956)
You don't think Larissa Pippen looks younger than me? I think she does, but I appreciate you ladies saying that.

Lori (54:45.433)
No. No.

Lori (54:53.999)
Yeah, come on.

Kelli (54:55.694)
She looks like a different person from when she married him. Thank you. All right, let's just end it on that, normally.

Lori (54:56.975)
Yeah, yeah, a of work.

Lori (55:03.941)
So I saw something on... Who? Me or Kelly? what'd say? she said let's end it on that. Yeah. I saw a thing on page six that Luanne, Sonya, Jill Zarin, Kelly and Ramona have signed a deal with E.

Wendy (55:07.742)
What did you say? missed it. missed it. Kelly. Okay.

Kelli (55:12.791)
I said let's just end it on that. Saying that I look- that Laura's a pimp and does look like it.

Kelli (55:34.472)
I saw something about that, yeah.

Wendy (55:34.57)
I saw that too.

Lori (55:34.917)
to do a new show. Yeah. I just thought that was interesting.

Wendy (55:39.04)
But they were saying that they've jumped ship and gone to the competitor, but E is under the NBC Universal umbrella.

Lori (55:47.113)
So there you go. Yeah.

Kelli (55:48.088)
Yeah, so no they didn't.

Wendy (55:50.836)
And listen, I'm here for it, I'll watch it.

Kelli (55:53.455)
I'll watch it. I don't particularly want to see Jill Zarin or Kelly Bensonbone, but whatever, I'll watch it. I'll watch it. You know what, Kelly was hard to watch because of how she treated Bethany. That's what made her hard to watch. maybe, because she was on the, like the Ultimate Girls trip with the New York, right? Yeah, yeah, she seemed okay.

Wendy (55:54.762)
Yeah.

Lori (56:18.191)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, uh-huh, yeah.

Yeah, she seemed to.

Kelli (56:22.638)
I mean, I still think she's not a rocker, but whatever.

Wendy (56:22.932)
Yeah. She is a little bit off her rocker. You know, the other thing that was mentioned that they were talking about the ultimate girls trip or whatever they're calling it right now. That they're ending up at the Blue Stone Manor at Dorinda's and it was ending this weekend. Like this is it. Like it's over. I cannot believe how much information that they've given us so far about this trip of who they've run into and you know what.

where they've been, what activities they've done. It's just, I feel...

Kelli (56:54.638)
Did you see Jennifer Aiden was at a party?

Wendy (56:57.908)
I did see that. I did see that. I know. And I mean, I don't know about the Jacqueline Lurita. I mean, I don't know if that's true if she was getting into it with Melissa. I could see that. I could see it happening. I don't know though. I don't know. I just don't like that there's so much information out there. I wish that they would just wait and let us watch it. Let us see it play out.

Kelli (56:59.79)
That was kind of surprising.

Kelli (57:13.08)
I doubt it.

Kelli (57:19.469)
I know.

Kelli (57:23.862)
I know, but here's the problem. All these housewives talk to podcasters. They talk to people with those. That's what they're doing. These housewives. It, it, they should.

Wendy (57:35.476)
No, but they're putting it on their own social media. They're putting it on their own social media right now.

Kelli (57:38.944)
Right, but they're also like, like, Up and Atom. Like he was the one, shoot, he was the one who said it about Jaclyn and Melissa. Like it's just annoying. But you're right, they're also putting it on their own social media.

Wendy (57:53.418)
I mean, Heather McDonald was at the white party and kind of reported everything she was saying. Like, that what happened on her own podcast. Like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't like it. I don't like it.

Kelli (57:58.787)
Yeah, that was weird. Right.

Lori (58:01.445)
Yeah.

Lori (58:09.411)
Alright, it's just how I feel about the jorts. Same thing. I it.

Wendy (58:09.62)
All right, that's all I-

Yeah, you don't like it.

Lori (58:16.347)
Okay.

Kelli (58:17.432)
So funny. Alright.

Wendy (58:17.598)
All right. How about a Daisy Duke? How do feel about a Daisy Duke?

Kelli (58:21.736)
I love a daisy, too.

Lori (58:23.087)
Look, you got a good ass. You rock the Daisy Duke. The Jorts, yeah, the Jorts is a no.

Wendy (58:25.736)
Okay. Okay, that's okay.

hahahaha

Kelli (58:32.782)
Test thousand.

Wendy (58:35.296)
Daisy Dukes.

Lori (58:35.717)
Tess might probably be probably the only person on the planet that looks good in him.

Kelli (58:37.39)
shorts.

You

Wendy (58:45.0)
Alright, until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe and give us five star reviews. Bye.

Kelli (58:53.422)
Bye.

Lori (58:54.319)
Bye.