RHOSLC Blink If You're Guilty

RHOSLC Blink If You're Guilty

RHOSLC Season 6 Reunion Part 2

RHOSLC Season 6 Reunion Part 2 kicks off in chaos, with Angie presenting a scroll allegedly linking Lisa to a long-running troll account, sparking debate over online leaks, timelines, and “proof.” Heather backs Angie, citing insider details and broader patterns like the so-called “Conwyn Fraudport,” while Lisa deflects and counters with accusations of her own. Tensions rise as Andy briefly exits, the women clash over past insults, and unresolved drama involving Meredith’s separation-era dating rumors resurfaces, reinforcing how deeply entrenched alliances and grudges remain.

The focus then shifts to Mary, whose segment turns emotional as Andy addresses her return to church leadership, her strained family dynamics, and her son Robert Jr.’s incarceration. Mary is unapologetic about her choices, including not visiting her son in jail, and blunt in her conflicts—especially with Britani, whom she accuses of being fake and attention-seeking. Conversations about religion spiral further with revelations about Lisa’s donation to the Church of Satan, prompting clarification and political context from Bronwyn, and underscoring the season’s recurring clash between faith, hypocrisy, and provocation.

The reunion’s final stretch centers on fractured friendships and explosive allegations. Viewer questions reignite old wounds between Lisa and Meredith, with Mary inserting herself as a sharp-tongued commentator. Accusations fly over TikTok rumors about Seth, unrecorded plane conversations, and off-camera gossip involving husbands and infidelity. A shocking unaired clip suggests Lisa encouraged rumors to be raised on camera, while Meredith and Heather’s friendship appears to implode amid shouting and tears. The episode ends with Meredith confronting Britani over antisemitism-related issues, leading Britani to walk offstage—leaving the group more divided than ever.

Takeaways

The reunion episode was filled with intense arguments and drama.
Meredith's refusal to admit to any wrongdoing was a major point of contention.
The dynamics of friendships and alliances among the cast were explored.
Mary's personal struggles with her son were highlighted during the reunion.
The accusations regarding the church and its practices were discussed.
Brittany's claims about Seth's infidelity added to the drama.
Meredith's defense of her actions was met with skepticism from the group.
The tension between Lisa and Mary was palpable throughout the episode.
The issue of recording conversations and production's influence was raised.
Meredith's accusations of anti-Semitism were controversial and sparked debate.

Transcript

Kelli (00:04.044)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Kelly.

Kelli (00:09.781)
See Wendy's not here. We I forgot who went first So tonight we're talking about Salt Lake City, I don't know was it season six Yeah reunion part two Yeah

Lori (00:20.812)
Reunion I don't even know reunion part two whatever season it is now and I have just a Shocker for the listeners if you haven't watched this reunion Part two just won't let you know don't be shocked. There's a lot of arguing

There's lot of argument.

Kelli (00:44.62)
This is the episode that Andy actually gets up and walks off and I knew, I knew it was gonna be because of Lisa. I knew it. I mean, it was other people too, but Lisa was involved, yeah. I'll be honest with you though, I was just telling Lori I had a very stressful day working. I worked from home, but it was a very stressful day and other things going on and I literally just finished it right before we hopped on. I really like.

Lori (00:54.966)
Yeah, it's just madness. It's just madness. It's madness.

Kelli (01:14.124)
the episode though. I did. And I'm not a big fan of the arguing, but I just, feel like there was a lot of content, a lot.

Lori (01:24.47)
Yes, it's a lot of content. But I just can't take that incessant yakking, cackling, talking over. Can't take it.

Kelli (01:35.662)
Well, there's two things to take away from this episode. Right. Not, not, not a damn one of them. Let's see. The other one speak and Meredith will admit to nothing. She will, she will blatantly lie to your face when you were standing right next to her and saw what really happened. She will lie to you and tell you that it didn't happen. And you know, even if you're a Meredith fan, you have to agree with this because

Lori (01:46.774)
Nothing.

Kelli (02:04.02)
She never admits to anything. So somebody who never admits to anything has to be lying because everything can't be untrue. Something has to be true. There has to be something that you can admit to. And I think one of them said, I think Brahman said it, like admit to something. She just admits to nothing. It's like, so, all right, so obviously you're lying.

Lori (02:16.044)
There's got, there must be some nugget there.

Lori (02:25.356)
something, anything.

Lori (02:30.594)
about something. Yeah, so we open with Angie giving Andy the scroll, which Meredith gave her as an anniversary gift, which is funny, because remember when Angie and Meredith were brawling and Angie gave Meredith that big scroll at that outdoor party? Yeah.

Kelli (02:51.736)
Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (02:54.22)
So in essence, she thinks that it has proof on it, because it has screenshots of an account and comments that Lisa is trolling her online through an account called CandiceStory7. it's listed with, she's saying it's listed with Lisa's phone number. I don't know how that stuff works. Like, I can barely operate my computer and have.

an Instagram account, like I don't know how that all.

Kelli (03:26.776)
So basically I think what they were saying was they somehow got into the account and they were trying to reset the password. And you know when you have to reset your password, an email shows up and says, we'll send a new link to this email or something. It was like Lisa's phone number. Like we'll send a text to this phone number to reset your password. So they're saying that was their proof that it was somehow connected to Lisa because the account was set up with her cell phone number.

because that was the phone number that was to verify and to reset the password. I mean, I don't know how you hacked into the account to begin with. I'm not denying that it was probably Lisa trolling because Angie kind of laid it out. Like even the thing with Electra's birthday, like that Candace account viewed her story and then two minutes later, Lisa's like, happy birthday, Electra.

Lori (04:04.162)
to reset the password. I don't.

Lori (04:12.49)
Right. Right.

Lori (04:25.054)
Right, and how it's, yeah. Right. Yeah, and she said how Angie said she'd been watching the count for like two years and it had been like staunchly defending Lisa and then when Lisa was mad at her, she saw all of a there were things about her on there and then Heather said there was stuff on there that only Lisa could know about the others. So, and Lisa was like, it's not gonna be a screenshot timeline moment, you know.

Kelli (04:25.102)
Like girl, wait, wait like a half hour. Give her some time.

Lori (04:54.592)
going back to when Heather did that thing with.

Kelli (04:58.05)
Yeah, Monega, Monega.

Lori (04:58.934)
What's her name? Yeah, Monica. Yeah. So I don't know. I don't.

Kelli (05:07.522)
Does it really matter? Like, you're all doing it to each other. I mean, Britney did it in broad daylight. Like, I was on TikTok and saw Seth with another one. Like, you're all doing it to each other.

Lori (05:17.056)
Right. Yeah. Who knows? And then this, all this yakking, bickering back and forth leads to Andy walking off stage, which I have to say, I think he was a little, he was a little too into the.

Kelli (05:39.64)
performative.

Lori (05:40.406)
the perform, there was a little too into the drama queen moment of it all. He had a, he had a smile on his face. was, he thoroughly enjoyed walking off and being the center of attention way too much in my opinion. Yes.

Kelli (05:54.274)
He definitely had a smirk on and then he turned around and he was like, come on you guys. Like, yeah, I agree. I totally agree.

Lori (05:58.69)
you

Yeah, yeah. And then Heather says, sorry, Daddy Andy. you know, her and Angie were kind of laughing about it and Mary was getting upset. She was like, it's not funny.

Kelli (06:14.082)
Yeah, she did look upset. She was like, Andy, no, no.

Lori (06:16.822)
Right, right, And so Andy asked Heather about saying she had proof of Lisa being behind the leaks and whether Angie's phone troll reveal was the proof. And Heather said it was part of it. But then she said, it was also the Conwin fraud port of it all. Did you catch when she said that?

Kelli (06:43.31)
I did hear that, because I think Lisa called Brahmin that at one point, didn't she?

Lori (06:50.298)
Mm-hmm. But what does that have to do with, I don't know. I don't know. I was little confused. And then Lisa in perfect Lisa deflection style says, well, what about the rolling thunder pictures you have on your phone? And something about red rocks. don't know. was something about somebody that Meredith dated while her and Seth were separated. She had some pictures.

Kelli (06:52.642)
Yeah.

Kelli (06:56.45)
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah.

Lori (07:19.436)
But Lisa, what does that have to do with you?

Kelli (07:22.84)
So I guess Lisa was basically saying that Heather still has these photos on her phone and why. I mean, yeah, like why? But if you're in a better place with Meredith, then why do you? But who cares? Like again, they're all doing it to each other. Like are we gonna worry about who's got a picture? I got pictures on my phone people probably wouldn't like.

Lori (07:45.258)
Right, right. better not be any of me.

Kelli (07:47.874)
There's none of you. It's more screenshots of Facebook posts by bullshit artists. Yeah.

Lori (07:53.146)
okay, okay. And then, how about Lisa in the, this is so creepy to me. So, I guess they go on lunch or whatever and Lisa and Meredith are in a dressing room. And Lisa asks Meredith, like how does she think it's like Lisa's doing so far?

Kelli (08:13.368)
Yeah, that was so weird. Wait, but the best was Meredith's like, no, you're doing good. And she's like, really? what, like at what point? And she was like, well, nothing specific. It's like, Meredith has no fucking clue. She has no clue.

Lori (08:27.51)
Yeah.

All right, Lisa's like, oh, what part am I doing great at? And I'm thinking, are you 12? what, like is Meredith your personal coach? I don't understand what's going on here. Like what? It was very odd to me. It was a very odd, very middle school conversation. was like, whoa. Yeah, very odd. was very odd.

Kelli (08:41.294)
Thank

It was very middle school. Yeah. Like, do you like me? Check yes or no. Yeah.

Lori (08:56.522)
And then Meredith says, why do you think they're so obsessed with us? So I want to know what the audience, I want to know what our listening audience thinks. I mean, I know that there are Lisa and Meredith fans out there that think that the whole rest of the cast is just bullying them and pinging on them. So do you guys think that the rest of the cast is obsessed with Meredith and Lisa? Do you think that the?

Kelli (09:02.606)
It, it, drives me crazy.

Lori (09:24.236)
the rest of the cast is out to get them. I'm just curious because it's one of those things where you watch something and you have thoughts about it and then you see other people's opinions and they're totally, they totally see something else and it's just wild. It's just wild to me.

Kelli (09:41.955)
Yeah.

Yeah. Well, it just bothers me when Lisa says that because it's like you're, you're on a show and it's conflict and resolution, right? Like this is what we're supposed to have on Housewives, conflict and resolutions. That's what they all say. So if they're trying to resolve something and you're involved in it, yes, they're going to talk about you, but that doesn't mean that they're obsessed with you. You're just on a show with them and, and interacting with them. But she always said, like, you're so obsessed with me.

But it's like that pretty girl that says, have no friends because I'm so pretty. Which is bullshit. You're probably a bitch.

Lori (10:21.058)
There you go. And then this is the best. Lisa says, she said a couple things tonight that I was less like, made me stop and go, huh? She says, we bring levity and clarity to a lot of the situation.

Kelli (10:23.63)
You

Lori (10:45.442)
That's like...

Kelli (10:46.626)
What is levity? Did you look it up? What does that even mean? I'm gonna look it up. Levity.

Lori (10:48.8)
No, I didn't look it up. Look it up. But I was just like, what? What are you even saying? What is she saying? And then Brittany comes out because they come back out from their break and she says, look at all the Greek food. That's so fun. And then did you catch it? Mare that does this really weird things where she like zones out on the cheese and production.

Kelli (10:57.501)
What is she saying, levity?

Kelli (11:15.96)
She always runs out.

Lori (11:17.334)
Production even did like some like weird noise in the background. It's like, we're just like, yeah, yeah. was like.

Kelli (11:20.526)
I didn't catch that. Levity is humor, especially the treatment of a serious matter with humor or in a manner lacking due respect.

Lori (11:32.556)
That's what I thought it was.

Kelli (11:38.156)
I mean, I treat a lot of serious matters with humor, I'll be honest with you. I never knew that that was actually a term.

Lori (11:43.369)
yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, there you go. And then Andy asks Mary about her church, you know, the return of her church. And then goes, you know, production goes and shows all these examples of Mary trying to be a mediator with the girls. And he flashback to a scene where Robert does not come to the church opening. And then...

you know, Mary starts getting upset and you know, sometimes Andy's just shady. He says, what got you? Well, what do you think? Hello? Right?

Kelli (12:22.344)
I mean, obviously, exactly. Right. She says, my son.

Lori (12:27.412)
And then, yeah, hello, kid's in jail, what do you think? Right? So then they talk about how their son is in custody and she said she needed to take a step back so he can learn. But I mean, imagine having to say, you would rather have your kid in jail than be dead. Like imagine having that be your situation in life and having to say that.

Kelli (12:54.283)
Yeah.

Lori (12:57.324)
That's... That's... That's brutal.

Kelli (12:57.816)
Yeah. And when she said, like, I know he's safe, like, I can sleep at night. She knows he's safe. Like, that's for real. Like, that's for real. Right, but it took him going to jail to, yeah, no, I get it. I get it.

Lori (13:04.426)
Mm-hmm. In jail. That, but yeah, but I imagine, I can't imagine.

That that's where you are in life. That that's your statement. That's your thought process. It's messed up. So he's going to be in jail till I guess the end of February. And she said she doesn't go to see him.

but he calls her every day. then Andy asks about.

Kelli (13:44.078)
Robert Senior.

Lori (13:44.897)
Robert senior and she said he talked to him the other day and he's gonna send them books and then Mary looks at Heather and says maybe I should send him your book Heather and then Andy says that there's a section in there about her and then married Mitch she's not ever read the book

Kelli (14:01.804)
Right. But Heather said, she said, I'll, I'll send him the book. That's easy. Like just the way she said it was like, you it was nice. I thought.

Lori (14:09.144)
yeah, yeah, yeah, and she laughed when Mary said she didn't read the

But was, Andy was like really stripping Mary's off, know, asking about her mom passing, asking her if she regrets not making amends.

Kelli (14:26.37)
Yeah, I felt like he went in a little bit with that. I agree, yeah. I mean that, yeah, like, I don't know, I feel like that's a question that your therapist should be asking you. Like, do you have any regrets? It's like, you know, I mean, it's not really something she's gonna wanna talk about on the reunion of Salt Lake City. Like, it's not like, you know.

Lori (14:29.856)
Right? Right? It's like, you get the flaying knife out.

Lori (14:40.236)
was like, whoa, okay.

Lori (14:49.695)
Yeah, it was just seem like a little you know it's just going a little deep there. You know

Kelli (14:54.626)
Yeah, I did like how all of the girls rallied around her though about that documentary because Lisa, I think it was Lisa and Whitney. Well, it was definitely Lisa because Lisa brought someone on. They mentioned his name, Colton maybe or Cameron. Okay, so Lisa brought Cameron on and Cameron basically said he mortgaged his house to tithe Mary's church.

Lori (15:04.886)
Whitney, yes.

Lori (15:12.206)
Cameron, I was going to ask you about that. Yeah, I didn't get to that yet. I want to ask you.

Lori (15:22.028)
Well, that's your own damn fault. That's because somebody tells you that's what they want you to do. That's because your dumb ass does it. Don't be looking at anybody else except for the mirror. Uh-uh. Right? Yeah, so Mary basically says that her mom kicked her out when she was 18. And she said she didn't regret.

Kelli (15:23.672)
No shit.

Kelli (15:29.848)
That's right.

That's right. That's right. Yep.

Lori (15:47.006)
not making amends with her mother. She said they were estranged for over 20 years. She said, didn't know what was like to have a...

Kelli (15:56.057)
She has said things in past seasons about her mom not being, you know, like her mom not being around, there being no food in the refrigerator, not like the moms we grew up with, you know?

Lori (16:03.158)
Yeah, the best.

Right, right, right. And then Andy asked, like, why do think people keep saying your church is a cult?

Kelli (16:23.064)
Yeah, and she said they just don't understand.

Lori (16:26.294)
Right. And then she said, you know, maybe it's because it's black, maybe because it's Pentecostal. So. then Andy talks about the Church of Satan posting on Twitter that they never took a donation from Lisa.

Kelli (16:43.628)
That's interesting, isn't it?

Lori (16:45.16)
Mm-hmm. And Lisa says, well, she has to get out her tax receipt book because she says she did.

Kelli (16:52.066)
Yeah, so I thought, did think it was interesting what Brahman clarified. There are two operations that call themselves the Church of Satan. And one actually does do good for women's rights, which it's a little, it's an interesting choice of name for an organization that's helping women's rights, but.

Lori (17:01.772)
with that name. Right.

Lori (17:13.332)
Absolutely.

Lori (17:17.568)
Very odd, very odd. Yeah.

Kelli (17:20.396)
So I wonder which one she actually donated.

Lori (17:27.698)
And then Andy asks what she thought of Brittany telling her she was the least Christ-like person she has met. And Brittany admits that her saying that was not very Christ-like, but that Mary was being really mean. Mary tells her that she pretends she's nice, but that she's not, saying this about Brittany. And Mary says Brittany just wants attention, and that Mary says she meant everything she said and would say it again.

Kelli (17:59.672)
She doubled down.

Lori (18:01.218)
did, she did, she did. And Mary says she doesn't think she'll ever be friends with Brittany. And Brittany asks, she feels bad for being mean to her. And Mary says, I'm not mean to you, I responded to you. Which, I don't know. Sometimes Mary can, sometimes Mary can.

Sometimes Mary thinks it's okay for her to say mean shit. But other people can't, you know.

Kelli (18:27.778)
Yeah, and I think that Lisa, Mary, Meredith, they kind of look at Brittany as like a, this is gonna sound terrible, but like a throwaway friend. Like we don't know how long she's gonna be here. Like we don't really have to pay much attention to her.

Lori (18:49.194)
And I think sometimes Mary gets, mean, but it's all she knows. She, you know, she is in a leadership position. So she goes from being in a church where people listen to every word she says for an hour or two. And I think sometimes that, that little bit of holier than now, that little bit of.

Kelli (19:04.493)
Right.

Lori (19:16.008)
I'm above the arguing doesn't really pan out because you do say some mean stuff. You did call Heather inbred. Like you can, you can, you can, you can be nasty. You know what I mean? Like for the most part, yes, she is a mediator for the most part. Yes, she is more of the adult in the situation, but don't act like you can't get your knees dirty girl. Cause you do, you know? Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (19:21.549)
Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (19:40.682)
Yeah, yeah, she can, she can.

Lori (19:44.739)
And then a viewer asked Mary about saying about Meredith that she didn't stick up for Lisa on the yacht trip. I said, Meredith, this is too much. Well, I didn't read the case documents, so therefore I couldn't refute anything they were saying about it. Okay, so you're telling me after the RV trip and you're a lawyer and this is your friend.

You didn't look it up.

Kelli (20:16.386)
Right, right. That's a bunch of bullshit.

Lori (20:18.656)
Okay, okay. And just because you couldn't refute particular facts doesn't mean you couldn't be like, you know what, I think we need to back up and lay off, please.

Kelli (20:31.01)
Yeah, like nobody was asking you to litigate it. Like, you know, you didn't have to come up with a defense. You just...

Lori (20:33.794)
Right?

Right, we didn't need a dissertation, we just needed you to say, stop being an asshole to Lisa. That's all we're looking for. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So then Lisa says, but her and Meredith have always been good friends. And then Mary says,

Kelli (20:45.486)
Right, like I think it's enough, yeah.

Lori (21:06.024)
Mary says, but you weren't or something. And then you could see like that whole like facade of Lisa's kind of cracking because she goes stock still. She's staring straight ahead and she says, what did you say, Mary? And then Lisa says, you know, we always had we were good friends. We just had a falling out. And then Mary says.

But not when you said, Lisa, not when you said Meredith was a whore and fucked half of New York, like, not then. But then Lisa, again, she's so good at deflecting. She says, well, what about everything that everybody else has said about Meredith? Why do have to go back to me? Because.

Kelli (21:55.257)
which is kind of throwing your friend under the bus. Like you think that's bad, what I said about Meredith, what about what you said about Meredith? Like let's all shit on Meredith now to get me out of this. Yeah.

Lori (22:04.864)
Right, so get me out of it. And I was like, well, we're asking you that because we were talking about you. God. At least it's like, yes. At least it's like, why do you have to go back to that? And Andy says, well, it took you two years. And then Lisa and Meredith are acting like they can't understand why everybody else is not over it.

Kelli (22:12.214)
Right, right.

But if you ask her a question, you're obsessed with her.

Lori (22:33.684)
And Andy says, well, as a viewer, it like permeates my thoughts when I'm thinking about the two of you and the fact that you are actually, you know.

Kelli (22:45.592)
Like able to move past it. Yeah, reconcile, yeah.

Lori (22:46.972)
able to move past it, you know? Yeah. And then Merith, she's kind of crazy. She says, well, everybody in the, this made no sense to me when you really think about it. Merith said, well, everybody in the group has called me a grudge holder.

But I didn't hold this grudge. Okay, so let's break this down for a second. So if more than two people tell you something about yourself, you might want to look.

Kelli (23:21.592)
time to self-reflect.

Lori (23:23.116)
So then what you're really saying is, is that everyone calls you a grudge holder, so maybe you were a person who did hold grudges, but the biggest grudge of all, you decided to let go and you don't think that that's weird? How does that make sense? It makes no sense.

Kelli (23:45.144)
Right.

Exactly. Exactly.

Lori (23:51.402)
And then Andy says, ask Lisa if she was surprised that Mary took her side. So what is that?

Kelli (23:58.517)
I don't know. I was like, what's he talking about? And clearly Lisa didn't know. Because everybody on the other couch was like, she don't even know what he's talking about.

Lori (24:09.096)
Right. Yeah, so, yeah, so, let's see. Britney says.

Kelli (24:10.316)
Right?

Kelli (24:13.894)
maybe he was talking about on the beach when she was basically saying to Meredith, like, you didn't stick up for your friend. Maybe that's what he was talking about. When they were on the yacht, when they did the whole below deck thing, which by the way, I think below deck down under started, so I think we're gonna see that. I have to check my DVR. And they went on the excursion, they went to the beach day.

Lori (24:29.164)
Yeah.

Lori (24:41.068)
Right, I remember that.

Kelli (24:42.528)
Yeah, and that's what Mary basically said to Meredith, like, you're not a good friend to her. You didn't have her back. Maybe that's what Andy was talking about. Because I wasn't following either, but I was like, all right, well, I don't feel bad that I don't remember because Lisa doesn't even remember.

Lori (24:49.57)
It's now.

Lori (24:53.598)
out.

Yeah. So, Brittany said Lisa's not moving. Angie said she's still like a statue. Heather says she's blinking. And somebody, don't know, maybe it was Brittany said, where's the popcorn? Brittany said, where's that popcorn? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Mary says Lisa doesn't care. Lisa's for Lisa and that's that.

Kelli (25:06.039)
Yes.

Kelli (25:13.038)
Britney said, where's the popcorn? She like sat back and was like, this is getting good. Where's the popcorn?

Lori (25:23.518)
And Mary said, Lisa probably doesn't even remember what you're talking about. And Angie said, she doesn't look like she does. And then here's another Lisa-ism that I was like, Lisa says, I'm thoughtful and pragmatic about what I'm saying.

You should be glad, Mary, that I'm thoughtful and pragmatic about what I'm saying. But you're not fucking saying anything. You're not saying anything. You say nothing. Yes, act. Yep, she did, she did, she did. Yeah.

Kelli (25:49.716)
Exactly, and that's what Mary said you talk a lot, but you don't say anything. think she said that about Lisa right not murder

Kelli (25:59.499)
I really believe that Lisa believes that everyone is basically lucky to be in her presence. Like including Andy Cohen, like he's not above it either. Like everyone is very fortunate that she is amongst them right now.

Lori (26:07.124)
I definitely think so. No, no, no. I definitely

Lori (26:17.43)
Yes, yes.

Kelli (26:19.856)
I mean, was she always like that and I just didn't read it?

Lori (26:23.988)
I don't know how you, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know what you were doing. Maybe you were drinking too much. But I don't know how she could have changed so drastically that you thought something else.

Kelli (26:26.068)
I was always a Lisa fan, probably up until the past couple of seasons. know.

Could be.

Kelli (26:39.083)
I know.

Lori (26:40.886)
I'm gonna have to watch an earlier one and see. I should watch the earlier ones.

Kelli (26:45.162)
I should go back and watch some early ones too because I don't know why I always liked her. Yeah, yeah, yeah, at least season one. Let's just do season one and see. I know, I know. And you need to see some Jen Shaw.

Lori (26:48.47)
We should do that. would be fun. Yeah. Let's find out because

Yeah, because I don't know what you're doing.

Yeah, so would be good. So Andy brings up the flight home and flashbacks to everyone's reaction. And then he asks if anyone believed the TikTok that Brittany brought up on the boat in regards to Seth. And everyone said no, except for Brittany. She said yes.

Kelli (27:22.399)
I'm shocked that everyone said no.

I really am.

Lori (27:31.796)
And then I didn't see Watch What Happens Live where Brittany said she had evidence of Seth cheating.

Kelli (27:39.478)
I don't think I saw that either.

Lori (27:41.259)
No, but I think he, I think Andy asked her, do you know anything else? And I think she said, maybe. I said, maybe, right. And then, yeah. And then Brittany says that Seth told Jared he has two girlfriends at work. And then Meredith calls Seth on the phone. I'm sorry, that was dumb, dumb, dumb scene. That was just.

Kelli (27:48.696)
She did, she said maybe, she didn't say yes. But then she goes into more detail.

Kelli (28:06.102)
Yeah, yeah, that was. What's he gonna say, Meredith? You obviously have a marriage of convenience. I've been saying this since season one. They have an open marriage. Just be honest about it. But you're so steadfast on denying it. What's he gonna say on camera? Of course he's gonna say, I'm obsessed with you. If...

If they don't see how infatuated I am, we don't see you. How would we think you were infatuated with her? You're never there. You're never around. We see John Barlow. We don't see Robert Senior. We see Justin. We see Jared, unfortunately. We see Sean. We see Todd. We don't see Seth. One, because Meredith doesn't really live in Salt Lake City. And two, because they're never together.

Lori (28:56.29)
All right. No.

Kelli (29:06.296)
So why would anyone think that he's infatuated with her? Maybe he is, we just don't say it.

Lori (29:10.324)
And he never answered the question. He did not. So then Lisa says, let's talk about what else Jared said and points to Bronwyn. How do you like that one?

Kelli (29:15.895)
No, he did not.

Kelli (29:30.71)
Yeah, that was so messed up.

Lori (29:34.478)
And she said, oh, your husband goes to Dubai to buy ED meds. What do you got to go to fucking Dubai for? Go on. Yeah, go on hims.com. What are you talking about? What do you get? We foreign Viagra.

Kelli (29:43.042)
What is that, Viagra?

Kelli (29:51.574)
I'm pretty sure Walgreens has it too, right? You just need a prescription.

Lori (29:54.593)
Yeah, like what, what? So I was like, girl, you were just. You are not making much sense. She was not making sense. It's like. Yeah. Yeah. No. And then how about when they show production shows the flashback to that girl Amy's party? Where least Lisa goes up to Jared and the girl Amy and Meredith.

Kelli (30:02.132)
No, no, I don't think Todd's flying to Dubai for that. He might be flying to Dubai for something else, but not that.

Kelli (30:17.836)
and he won't say it.

Lori (30:24.564)
and says, tell Amy where Todd wanted you to go. And Jared said, I'm staying out of the controversy and Bronwyn and I are on good terms. then Lisa said, then Bronwyn says that Lisa doubled down and told Brittany to bring that up on camera in Greece so that it would get airtime. But I guess Brittany didn't.

Kelli (30:50.328)
Yeah. That was one likable moment of Jared Osmond when he wouldn't say it on camera.

Lori (30:55.298)
when he wouldn't say it. One smart thing that he did,

Kelli (31:00.096)
And good for Brittany for not doing that too.

Lori (31:02.538)
Yeah. So Andy says the number one question he keeps getting is why no one recorded on the plane. And this was another weird thing. Like, I don't think Heather thought this one through. Right. So Heather says Whitney had said to her that their her biggest regret was not picking up the phone and recording. And then.

Kelli (31:16.984)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (31:31.522)
Then she goes off on this big tirade about how a person would be such an asshole to record all that.

basically you're just calling your cousin an asshole. It's just like, what? Like I understood the point she was trying to get to is that it's, you know, especially how Meredith got so upset with Brittany recording in the Sprinter and blah, blah. That it's just no one should be recording each other. But just the way she said it, was like, ooh, just like back that bus up and make sure Whitney's there.

Kelli (32:03.927)
Right, right, right.

Kelli (32:15.63)
But I think Whitney was saying my biggest regret is not recording it. I think the only reason she said that is because Meredith is denying it so hard. Like I don't think she was like, oh, this was such a great moment, we should have recorded it. I don't think that was the thought process. I feel like she was saying it because she was like, damn, if I knew Meredith wasn't gonna own up to any of it, I wish I had proof of it happening. But here's the thing.

Lori (32:32.897)
Right.

Lori (32:41.024)
any

Kelli (32:45.614)
Production knows what happened. And there's something going on on Real Housewives of Potomac where the girls are on a cast trip in Colorado and one girl planned the trip and she's staying in her own home with two of the girls and all the rest of the girls are staying in an Airbnb. The Airbnb had no running water and it was a bad experience for the girls.

We have come to find out from multiple social media outlets that the girl Angel did not set that house up, production set that house up, but Angel is right now currently on the show taking the fall for it and being blasted by the other women for it, but production set the house up. So this is like just another example of how dirty production is because production knows what happened on that plane.

I don't care if you were sitting in a different class of seat. You knew what was going on. So speak up. Because this she said she said stuff is ridiculous and it's been going on all season. It's nonsense. Tell us who's lying because you know. Are six women lying or is Meredith lying?

Lori (33:42.732)
Right.

Lori (33:46.572)
Huh. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Lori (33:57.527)
Yeah. And because you know,

Kelli (34:08.632)
very frustrating to me.

Lori (34:08.768)
Well, this has been Meredith's out. Meredith has not denied that should happen on that plane. Meredith is using her lawyer speak and saying she had no contact.

with Brittany. So what I think happened is I think Meredith got all jacked up. She got on the plane and she said nasty, mean stuff about Brittany, said it to Lisa, but she said in her mind because she didn't say it directly to Brittany that she had no interaction with her. That's her.

That's her like weird psychosis. That's her gig. That if she didn't say it directly to her, then she didn't. Then it doesn't count.

Kelli (35:05.676)
Right. But how about her even denying like, and I actually do believe Whitney, Whitney's like, I said, Meredith stop. That's enough. Meredith stop. And Meredith's like, no, you didn't. No, you didn't. No, you didn't. Like, I believe Whitney, if she's saying she said that, I'm sure she said that. It's like, Meredith will just deny, deny, deny. And, you know, she's an attorney. So it's like, show proof, show proof.

Lori (35:31.65)
Right. So I don't know. And then there was this whole weird, I thought this was weird, when Meredith says Heather screeched at her for two months. I don't know what's going on there because Heather seemed to get mighty jacked up about that. And I couldn't figure that out. Like there's something else there.

Kelli (35:58.415)
tell you what, I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, like saying it out loud when Heather was like, F you, F you. Because she doesn't really speak like that, at least on the show. I don't know, something triggered her. I mean, maybe it's just the fact that Meredith's calling her, basically calling her a liar again. Or Meredith's lying about something again. It's like enough.

Lori (36:03.286)
Right? Wasn't it like?

Right.

Lori (36:13.782)
Yeah, I was, it was just odd, was odd, it was odd, yeah.

Lori (36:22.412)
Right.

Kelli (36:30.432)
I really, mean, I'm sure they're gonna bring Meredith back. I just don't understand why. She shows us nothing of her life and then does erratic things and denies them and lies about it. It's like, what is the purpose of her being on this show?

Lori (36:48.93)
And then Meredith says, well, okay, so if all this happened, as you say it did, then why did none of you come to her rescue? Yeah, and why did none of you come speak to me about it?

Kelli (37:01.612)
offer to switch seats.

Lori (37:10.443)
I

Kelli (37:11.384)
So the switching of the seats defense basically is that they were descending. How long are you descending on an international flight? It must be a long descent.

Lori (37:20.726)
Well, I think.

No, it's the same descent as all other descents. But I think what she was saying, what Brittany was saying was that as they were descending is when it got really ramped up. So I don't know, but that really doesn't make any sense to me because if you say she was right, if you said she was going on and on the whole time. So I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But listen.

Kelli (37:38.228)
okay, okay.

If it were a six hour flight.

Kelli (37:47.66)
Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (37:51.625)
All Meredith had to say was, yeah, you know what? She really pissed me off. Yeah, I said some mean shit to her. And everybody was like, OK. It's.

Kelli (38:01.525)
Yeah, because Heather said, like, we were all on your side. We all felt bad that she brought up the TikTok. Like, nobody thought you were out of line for being pissed. Somebody says your husband's cheating on you, of course you're gonna be pissed off. So yeah, like, just own the fact that you lost your shit a little bit over it. You notice she did not answer Andy when he asked if she had had a drink prior to getting on the plane.

Lori (38:26.23)
No, she did not. No, she did not. And I'm going to tell you, this whole thing after that.

sorry, was very odd. The whole nail tech anti-semitic thing was just, I was just like, what? What?

Kelli (38:46.027)
yeah.

Kelli (38:53.71)
It didn't make a whole lot of sense to me and I don't want to get into anything religious or anti-semitic or political or anything like that. What didn't make sense to me was if Meredith used the same nail tech that Brittany used and Brittany's saying

She didn't know any of that, she just gave the person a good review because they did her nails for free, which is a very normal thing to do.

what are we fighting over? Like she didn't defend, she didn't go on there and say, he's not anti-Semitic. But once it was brought to her attention, she went to Meredith and apologized, which if things really played out that way, what does she really have to apologize for? But I guess she felt like she did. mean, you know, people say insulting things about Catholics all the, you know what, I'm not even gonna say it. I'm not even gonna say it.

Lori (39:34.209)
Right.

Lori (39:54.943)
It's no, that's true. People say insulting things about all different groups of people, all different groups of people.

Kelli (40:01.698)
just because I'm part of that group doesn't, you know, like, I don't know, I don't even wanna get into the religion part of it. But it didn't make a whole lot of sense to me either.

Lori (40:12.916)
It didn't make sense to me either because at the end of the day, at the end of the show, Meredith basically said that she felt that Britney was targeting her and that Britney had something against her because she was Jewish. And that made not a lick of frickin sense to me. It's I was just like.

Kelli (40:36.834)
It's complete bullshit. It's complete nonsense. And this is the first we're hearing of it. And it's only because she's trying to defend her behavior on that plane. That we don't even know, you know, we don't even know, I mean, we know it. I think it's true, personally. But she's defending herself. That's why she's putting that out there. She's basically making it look like this woman's an anti-semite, which is disgusting to do.

Lori (41:06.658)
And I really quite frankly, I think she should be ashamed of herself because, right, because the things that have been done to the Jewish people over the centuries are absolutely abhorrent, abhorrent, horrific, horrific.

Kelli (41:14.734)
She'd have to admit to doing something wrong to be ashamed of herself.

Kelli (41:28.952)
horrific

Lori (41:32.258)
and for you to put somebody in that sphere.

Kelli (41:38.744)
Mm-hmm.

who wrote a review for somebody for doing their nails for free.

Lori (41:45.026)
That's... that's...

It's just crazy to me. That's crazy. Because there are people who are highly anti-Semitic. And that's horrible. that... But putting that in the same sphere? And that's cuckoo. That's cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs.

Kelli (41:53.076)
It.

Kelli (42:01.007)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (42:10.24)
It is, it really is. But this is how easy, easily people can do this. But she, mean,

I personally feel that Meredith did this to make it seem like, well, but of course I was treating Brittany this way because of this.

Lori (42:20.128)
I don't know.

Lori (42:37.824)
no girlfriend. It was just it was it was it was crazy to me I was just like what the hell what

Kelli (42:37.93)
I don't know. Yeah. That was pretty wild though. That was a wild twist.

Kelli (42:47.256)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (42:51.168)
And wasn't it at Meredith's Bat Mitzvah where the whole high body count hair came up? So if she was anti-semite, why would she go to your Bat Mitzvah?

Lori (43:05.184)
Why would you invite her? How about that question? How about that question? Why would you invite her? And you know what, Meredith? I hope you never really run into somebody who is truly anti-Semitic, because then you won't put a situation like that in the same category, because...

Kelli (43:07.02)
Right. Right.

Kelli (43:27.682)
Yeah, that's a terrible, that's harsh.

Lori (43:29.364)
It was just not, it was not, it was not good. And it was not a good look, Meredith. It was not a good look.

Kelli (43:35.98)
And quite honestly, Andy's Jewish and he was like questioning it, you know?

Lori (43:42.986)
It was just, was, I thought it was.

Kelli (43:45.472)
It was a big ass reach is what it was.

Lori (43:48.438)
And I thought it was in very, very, very poor taste.

Kelli (43:51.598)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (43:57.132)
And that's where we left it, right? But next week looks good too.

Lori (44:04.94)
see what other craziness goes on. Let's see. I'm very curious to see who deflects, who shows signs of delusion, and who just flat out makes shit up. That's what I'm looking to say. So.

Kelli (44:18.414)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. So next week's the third and last installment, and then we'll be done with Salt Lake City for a little bit.

next week we'll get into Brahman and Todd being separated.

No? All right. Well, thank you for listening and watching. Please give us five star reviews and subscribe, especially to our YouTube. That's where we're lacking a little bit.

Lori (44:48.235)
Yep, we would love that. Thank you so much. Bye.

Kelli (44:50.649)
Thank you. Bye.