RHOP-Projection, Apologies & Pink Pussy Cocktails

RHOP-Projection, Apologies & Pink Pussy Cocktails

RHOP S10 E15 – “The Rocky Road to Sisterhood” Podcast Summary

Day two in Colorado picks up with unresolved tension after the disastrous first night. Angel heads to meet the ladies while the group continues dissecting her comments about checking with her husband, Bobby, regarding childcare. Stacey, Jassi, and Monique question whether Angel is using her kids as an excuse, with Monique projecting her own past experiences and wishing she’d addressed Angel directly instead of letting the conversation travel through the group.

The women arrive at the airport to a luxe private jet provided by Stella Jets, immediately sparking speculation that the flight is comped for promo. Before takeoff, Angel attempts to apologize for the water and heat issues at the house, but Giselle is not having it. She accuses Angel of being a terrible host who never checked in, while Wendy co-signs that a true host would have shown concern, even if the problem was already being fixed. Despite Angel explaining she was in “fix-it mode,” Giselle makes it clear the apology is too little, too late—and takes credit for moving everyone to the Four Seasons. A toast is made… to Giselle, leaving Angel visibly defeated.

Once whiskey starts flowing, the mood lightens slightly, but the core issue remains. Monique and Jassi explain their concern stemmed from Monique’s own marriage experiences, but Angel firmly shuts down the narrative that she’s depleted or unhappy, insisting her marriage is loving and supportive. Wendy pushes Angel to “stand on business” and own who she’s close to, rather than trying to please everyone. Angel becomes emotional, expressing how painful it is to feel disbelieved while telling her truth. Monique, Ashley, and Tia agree the group is being especially hard on Angel.

The trip shifts into full Aspen luxury mode at Kemo Sabe, complete with custom hats, turquoise jewelry, sky-high shopping totals, and plenty of shade. Monique stays sober, Ashley plays bartender, and Giselle side-eyes everyone’s spending. The energy shifts again when Mauricio (Moe) pops up in the VVIP lounge, sending Giselle into protective mode while Stacey and Jassi encourage Ashley to shoot her shot. Accusations of cock-blocking fly, Beverly Hills–Potomac crossover drama brews, and Giselle struggles to control the narrative.

The episode ends with yet another divide: Giselle announces an executive suite dinner and brunch plan, while Angel insists they have an early activity scheduled. The group appears split, the tension unresolved, and the promise of fly fishing still nowhere in sight—setting up a chaotic continuation next week.

Transcript

Wendy (00:01.028)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever. I'm Wendy. We are talking about Real Housewives of Potomac, Season 10, Episode Number 15, The Rocky Road to Sisterhood. Okay, there's not a lot of sisterhood going on here.

Kelli (00:04.747)
I'm Kelly.

Kelli (00:18.124)
There's no sisterhood. That's a dumb name. I'm sorry. There's no sisterhood amongst any of them. Maybe K and Angel. That's about it right now. That's about all we got.

Wendy (00:22.25)
It really is a dumb name. It really is.

Wendy (00:31.842)
Yeah. So we start out with the angels in the car. She's on the way to meet some ladies. They're going to meet at the airport. And she's talking about that she got a call from Jassy that Monique was talking about what she said about having to go check with Bobby about doing the sleepover to see if he could, you know, watch the kids and

that she doesn't want her projecting her experiences onto her. And I honestly, I don't blame her. I wouldn't want someone projecting their experiences onto me either. I mean, I understand. I understand where she's coming from. And I'll be honest with you, after I saw it play out with Monique, I don't think Monique had ill intent. I really don't. I mean, I think that she, I don't know. We'll get there when we get there.

Kelli (01:08.724)
I agree.

Kelli (01:26.872)
Well, I just don't like the fact that Monique was saying I'm not speaking on her marriage. Yes, you were.

Wendy (01:33.41)
Well, she was. Absolutely she was. She was speaking on her marriage. Right.

Kelli (01:35.406)
She definitely was. And then they flashback to all the times that Jizzy and Robin were speaking on Monique's marriage and coming for her marriage. So I just feel like she was the victim of it at one point. Why are you doing it to her now amongst the women that did it to you? I just feel like it's very messy, especially for somebody who's not even a housewife.

Wendy (01:55.609)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (02:02.04)
Yeah, she's, mean, good point, very good point. Yeah, she's a friend, she's a friend. And then we see Stacey and Jassy are talking about Angel using her kids as an excuse. Listen, I'd...

Kelli (02:04.27)
You're a friend.

Wendy (02:22.146)
I mean, yes, her kids are an excuse, but one, her kids are very young. Two, she's still breastfeeding. She's still breastfeeding. Like, give the woman a break.

Kelli (02:26.69)
Yes. Nursing. Yes.

Kelli (02:34.136)
There's no grace for this woman. There's no grace.

Wendy (02:36.64)
Exactly, exactly.

What were you going say?

Kelli (02:45.218)
Well, Giselle was going on and on about the house again, I mean, is it common knowledge now that we know that production are the ones that chose this home and Angel wasn't? I mean, that's the word on the street, right? That it was production that found this house and not Angel, but Angel's taken the fall for it.

Wendy (03:01.826)
Yes, that's the word.

Wendy (03:06.636)
An angel wanted them to stay at the Four Seasons. That was her original plan.

Kelli (03:13.006)
which is wild, right? So maybe then that's how they wound up back at the Four Seasons. Giselle didn't call her Four Season people, production was like, all right, we'll bring you back to the Four Seasons.

Wendy (03:13.496)
So.

Wendy (03:19.652)
Yeah!

Wendy (03:26.178)
Yeah, that's what happened. That's what happened.

Kelli (03:27.822)
I swear production is so messy.

Wendy (03:32.568)
They really are. They really are messy. Because Monique is in the other car while Stacey and Jassy are talking and she's like, you know, I'm making assumptions here, but athletes are there. Like, they're the ones that make the money. And that's when she said I didn't speak on her marriage. And then Monique said, well, Wendy told me the whole conversation got back to Angel already. I was like,

Kelli (03:34.061)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (04:01.986)
And listen, Jassy's friends with Angel, why wouldn't she tell her? I think that that's fine. I think that's fine to tell her.

Kelli (04:05.838)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (04:10.094)
It's totally fine. That's what this show is about, right? Conflict and resolution. Well, you're going to bring conflict by talking about this woman and her marriage. Then somebody has to bring it back to her. Somebody has to be the bone collector and bring it back to her so that there can be resolution. That's what we preach that this show is about, supposedly. So yeah, of course there was nothing wrong with that. And any other one of them would have done the same thing.

Wendy (04:25.23)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (04:37.38)
Yeah, 100. I think it was interesting that Stacey is telling Jassy that she's trying to talk Teemu into getting her chicken coops, because she wants fresh eggs. I was like, wait, I didn't see this one coming. Like, where is this one coming from?

Kelli (04:55.15)
I didn't either, but it's a very common thing.

Wendy (04:59.554)
It is?

Kelli (05:01.176)
People having chickens?

Wendy (05:03.052)
Yeah, I mean, it's more common, think, since COVID. But I don't think it's okay. I guess you do locally.

Kelli (05:06.71)
Yeah, I know a ton of people who have chickens now. absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Wendy (05:14.442)
Mmm. I mean...

Kelli (05:15.766)
I think it's great. I would do it, but I don't want to really take care of anything else.

Wendy (05:20.841)
no, I would not do it. Listen, I would not do it. No, I mean, especially cause...

Kelli (05:23.328)
I don't want to. I don't want to. But I'll take the fresh eggs from the people I know who have them.

Wendy (05:28.942)
There you go. And listen, anytime you need fresh eggs, I can get them in my town. They're always roadside. There's plenty of chickens in the town I work in. Chickens everywhere.

Kelli (05:36.876)
Yes, yes.

Wendy (05:41.23)
So, meanwhile, whole time Gisele is in the car on the way to meet them at the plane, all she's doing is shit-talking Angel. That's all she's doing the entire time.

Kelli (05:51.214)
She's just a miserable, miserable person.

Wendy (05:54.626)
She is. She really is. She is. So they get...

Kelli (05:56.44)
She really is. I hope at the reunion, I hope at the reunion it's clarified that production's the one that got them that house. I really hope that there's clarification on that at the reunion.

Wendy (06:06.788)
I should hope so too.

Wendy (06:11.554)
I hope so too. I hope so too. So they get to the airport and they are greeted by Tia Manzoni, who is the founder and CEO of Stella Jets. Now, as soon as I saw that, I said to myself, you know what? Angel got a brand deal here. Because why else would we see Tia Manzoni and the name Stella Jets? We've never seen that before. And then she got a full blown advertisement.

Then I said they got comped for airtime. Then we get on and Tia from Stella Jets is telling them this is their Falcon 900. Why else would we need to know it's the Falcon 900? And the price to rent this jet shows up on the bottom of the screen, $8,050 per hour. Again, Stella Jets got their advertisement right there and good for them. Like good for them.

Kelli (06:51.672)
Bye!

Kelli (07:04.717)
Good for them. And this is what I was thinking. So $8,050 per hour. So they fly them to Aspen. Doesn't take an hour, but call that one hour. Now, does the jet sit there until they need to come home?

Wendy (07:18.878)
they're not paying for a jet. No, the jet's not gonna sit there. They're not paying for that. It's not like a limo where you pay. Only the hour in the air.

Kelli (07:23.842)
You're paying for the hour there and the hour back.

Wendy (07:30.562)
Because the big thing with the, well, not like I have either, but the whole big thing about it is it's the price of the fuel. That's what's so expensive about the, you know? And that's the time in the air. So, yeah. I mean, I'm sure there's some sort of fee if they're making them sit on the runway for an hour and a half, I would think. Like they did in Beverly Hills, right?

Kelli (07:31.447)
I've never flown private, so I don't know these things.

Kelli (07:40.448)
Right. Right. Yeah.

Wendy (07:58.274)
So as soon as the ladies arrive, Angel says, good morning, want to start by apologizing for your accommodations. And Giselle just shuts her down. Too late.

Kelli (08:07.758)
That was horrible

Wendy (08:09.87)
She's like, well, let me finish.

And Wendy jumps in and is like, you know, you guys never checked on us. You didn't say we were okay. You didn't see if the water was back on. You know, you didn't even fake pretend to care. And you didn't offer to send an Uber so that we could take a shower at your house. Well, I mean, first of all, the fact that those women did not shower, I'll tell you what, they looked pretty damn good for getting together like that without water.

Kelli (08:38.732)
I thought the same thing.

I thought the same damn thing. How'd they wash their freezes to get all that glam on?

Wendy (08:45.187)
Right?

Right. I mean, they must have done something. They must have done something. That's what I said. So I don't know.

Kelli (08:52.76)
They must have done something.

Kelli (08:58.52)
Giselle went on so hard. I think if I were Angel, first of all, let me give mad credit to Angel because she kept her composure, not only here, but again, when they get to the restaurant. I think I would have asked Giselle to get off the plane. I really do.

Wendy (09:12.505)
Yes.

Wendy (09:17.773)
A lot of people said that. I heard a lot of people on social media saying that.

Kelli (09:21.71)
I absolutely would have asked her to leave the plane and if anybody else wants to join her, that's no problem. But I rented this plane to bring you to a nice day and you're being nothing but miserable and disrespectful and I don't want you here. Get off the plane.

Wendy (09:35.875)
Right.

Wendy (09:49.966)
So inter-confessional, know, Angel says, definitely should have reached out and asked like how they were doing, but you know, I jumped into fixing mode and I just wanted to rectify the situation, which I totally understand. And especially considering production was there, you know? Production was there.

Kelli (10:04.458)
Of course, of course. I'm sure she felt that if what was going on was as severe as these women were saying, production would have stepped in and said, okay, let's do something here. Plus she sent an electrician or whoever she sent to remedy the problem and was told everything was good by the property manager.

Wendy (10:24.246)
Right. Right.

Yeah.

Kelli (10:33.388)
I mean, what more do you want her to do?

Wendy (10:36.034)
Right. Right. You guys are the ones who showed up there and you didn't have what you needed and you didn't call her. How is she supposed to know?

Kelli (10:44.108)
Right. Right.

She stayed very composed though, my goodness.

Wendy (10:54.126)
So T is trying to stick up. I didn't. Yeah, so T is trying to stick up for Angel because when she woke up, she said, I saw Angel, she was really upset, she was crying, she found out that you guys didn't have water, she was working on getting it fixed and now finding, trying to find other accommodations. And T is interconfessional, she said, I should have reached out to my friends there too and see if maybe they needed a flannel or something.

Kelli (10:54.572)
Now I watched this on Peacock. yeah, go ahead. Yeah, go ahead.

Wendy (11:23.842)
to wash their armpits. Is that something they do in Britain? They wash their armpits with a flannel? I was like, I've never heard of that before. Yeah, I was like, a flannel? Like, what? What is that for?

Kelli (11:30.926)
no. That is funny. I didn't even catch that she said that.

Kelli (11:41.144)
Did you, was it on the DVR that Stacey ate her contacts?

Wendy (11:47.806)
Yes. Yes. Yes.

Kelli (11:49.002)
Okay, I thought maybe that was just a peacock thing because it was such a quick little thing and it was so random. What was that?

Wendy (11:55.212)
It, every, I know, but that's the thing with Stacey. Everything with her is so random. Like the chicken coop, the eating her contacts.

Kelli (12:03.182)
I was like, she what? I mean, sometimes I have to take my contacts, like right now my contacts are driving me crazy because I've had them in all day. I put drops in three times, but they just get dried out. But well, first of all, I'm so blind. If I took my contacts out, I wouldn't be able to count my fingers in front of my face. But so I couldn't unless I had glasses with me. But how do you take your contacts out and then not remember that they're on your plate? Why would you put them on your plate for that reason?

Wendy (12:31.076)
But yeah, like that's, I honestly, I don't wear contacts, but I can't imagine I would ever put them on my plate. Like, what are you thinking? I don't know. She's just a little nutty. She really is a little nutty.

Kelli (12:39.636)
No. No.

Kelli (12:45.646)
She really is cuckoo. But in a fun way, like I enjoy her on the show. She's cuckoo in a fun way. Yeah.

Wendy (12:52.474)
I do too! No, I totally agree. I totally agree.

So Gisele announces that she's already fixed the accommodations, that she calls up her Four Seasons people and that they will be staying at the Four Seasons tonight because she already told the ladies to pack up their stuff and that she would take care of them. Yeah, okay.

Wendy (13:19.79)
Kay in her confessional said, know, I've been on multiple cash trips and you know, I've been in a bunk room and I haven't always had the best situations either, which I agree. And even when Giselle said how bad it was for the Chesapeake, that this one was worse. And the Chesapeake one was the one that Wendy did where she intentionally put her and Robin up there with her broken foot because of the way she'd been treating Wendy. So yeah.

Kelli (13:45.89)
Yeah. That's right.

Wendy (13:49.93)
So it's like, come on. Yeah.

Kelli (13:50.499)
That's right. Yeah. I mean, there's a clear pattern here of who the true villain is on this show. It's a very clear pattern. And it's Gisele when someone younger, prettier, and happily married comes on the show. Because she's old, she's miserable, and she can't keep a man.

Wendy (13:59.572)
yes.

Wendy (14:09.795)
Yeah.

Wendy (14:15.458)
Yeah, mean, even at one point, Kay said, okay, Ken, I was gonna say, I don't really know how old she is. I think she might be older than you. I think she might be a little older than you. Kay's trying to make a toast, know, because Angel, they're not accepting her apology. Kay's like, okay, so can we toast? And Stacey's like, nobody wants to toast. Like, what are we toasting about?

Kelli (14:20.334)
She's probably my age, by the way.

Kelli (14:25.538)
She's probably my age.

Wendy (14:44.322)
So they decide that they're gonna toast to Giselle for being their champion on this trip. Okay, so it was rude, it was so rude. It was rude, but I was glad that they were gonna move forward.

Kelli (14:52.024)
Rude. How extremely rude.

I I gotta be honest with you. think, yes, I agree with that, but I just feel like all of these women are just being complete bitches.

Wendy (15:09.12)
Mm-hmm. I do too. I do too.

Wendy (15:19.108)
As a matter of fact, when they toasted Gisele, I looked at Angel and I wrote down, Angel looks defeated. I felt bad for her. I felt, I really did feel bad for her.

Kelli (15:24.994)
so defeated.

I felt terrible for her.

Wendy (15:30.636)
And I guess then there was turbulence on the flight because then Jassy, which we find out was a flight attendant for 11 years, is saying that when you're flying in this mountain area, that's very normal. And I guess it makes sense, you know, that there's going to be turbulence. That's when the story about Stacey eating her contacts came up.

Kelli (15:41.869)
Yeah.

Wendy (15:52.069)
So they get off the plane and there's gonna there's Sprinter brands waiting for them. They're go straight to eat They're already there's already gonna be food waiting at a whiskey bar. And then after that they're gonna go to Kimo Sabe and They get to the whiskey bar. They seem happy with that They find out that like they don't have wine they don't have beer they do have vodka they don't have tequila

But Ashley said, know what? Whiskey does wonders. Once these girls get whiskey in them, everything's going to be fine. I don't know about that. I don't know about that.

Kelli (16:25.068)
Yeah, I don't know about that either.

How about Monique saying the next time Angel invites her on a trip, she's gonna say no. You're not a housewife. You're a friend of. You're lucky to be there. If I were Angel, I wouldn't invite you on the next trip. Because all you're doing.

Wendy (16:45.366)
you noticed but Monique wasn't drinking at all yeah Earl Grey with honey and even when they did the shots the pink pushy she didn't have one she was she hasn't been drinking so I don't I'm

Kelli (16:49.538)
No, she asked for hot tea. I did notice that.

Kelli (16:56.974)
Mm-hmm.

I mean, I think it's a smart move on her part because I don't know if she was drinking the night of that altercation with Candace. I mean, they were at like a wine tasting, weren't they? They were at something that was related to alcohol. So maybe she's just making a conscious effort to not on camera. It's a smart move.

Wendy (17:11.256)
They were.

Wendy (17:21.75)
It is a smart move and I actually just read online today that Lisa Rinna said that before she went on Housewives, she promised Harry Hamlin that she would not drink on camera because he did not want her doing Beverly Hills Housewives. And for the first five years, she did not drink at all on camera and she's glad that she did that. Yep, I was very surprised to see that. I think that's smart. Yep, he was afraid.

Kelli (17:41.528)
Wow.

Kelli (17:46.542)
Wow, that's interesting.

Wendy (17:50.744)
He was afraid it would affect their marriage. He said, you these women, wind up you drinking you. actually, it's the article said that Bethany from New York actually talked him into it and said it would be good for the brand. It would be good for Lisa's brand. And she did, she got a lot of, I mean, she got the Lisa Rinna clothing line on QVC. She got a lot from being on Beverly Hills Housewives.

Kelli (18:14.388)
Yeah, I think she had that before she was on Beverly Hills, but once she got on Beverly Hills, it really Helped her. So Bethany was right. I mean she had those lip kits

Wendy (18:21.347)
Yeah.

Yeah, no, no. Yeah, but, yeah.

Yeah, I was surprised to see that. listen, think it's honestly, I think it probably is a smart move. Do not drink on camera. He said to her, you need to have your wits about you. And if you don't, you may do or say something that you, right.

Kelli (18:36.609)
Yeah, I-

Kelli (18:42.915)
You just-

You're gonna get yourself in trouble.

Wendy (18:47.491)
Yep.

Kelli (18:49.026)
like the Munchausen.

Wendy (18:53.514)
yeah.

Kelli (18:57.358)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (18:58.756)
actually know how many years she was on. She said for the first five years, so she must have started drinking after, but I don't know. I don't know. I didn't look that far.

Kelli (19:06.754)
She must have been on a long time though. I mean, that means she was on longer than Vanderpump was on.

Wendy (19:13.718)
I think she was on longer than Vanderpump.

Kelli (19:16.75)
That's interesting.

Wendy (19:18.284)
Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (19:20.856)
By the way, real quick, have you been watching the new Vanderpump Rules?

Wendy (19:25.328)
no. I watched one episode. I've been recording them. I haven't really watched them, have you?

Kelli (19:32.834)
No. But I, cause I keep reading horrible, horrible things about it.

Wendy (19:37.174)
Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what I'm going to do with it. may or may not. You know, I'll see what happens. So they're at the whiskey place and Angel apologizes again and says, I know you're not willing to accept my apology. And Monique says, well, some of us are, which I thought was actually nice.

Kelli (19:38.808)
So.

Kelli (19:45.208)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (20:03.693)
Me too.

Wendy (20:05.166)
But then Monique says to Jassy, did you tell Angel about the conversation I had with you all? And she said, yeah. And Monique said, why? And Jassy, well, I was concerned. Monique said, so basically, I noticed certain similarities between you and I. And she explained it to her. And while she was explaining to her, Angel just sat there, very respectful. She just listened to what she had to say. And then she responded. She didn't interrupt her or anything. She said,

You know, okay, so you were wondering if that's also my experience after she went on explaining to everything. And she said, okay, it's not. Which I honestly thought was so classy the way that she handled it. I did, I thought it was like, I don't know anybody else there that would have handled it that way.

Kelli (20:41.677)
Right.

Kelli (20:47.767)
Absolutely.

Kelli (20:52.942)
Absolutely not.

Kelli (20:57.57)
I mean, listen, what Monique said is valid. Like you're going to get to the point where you're going to explode if, if, if you're, know, your partner is not pulling their weight and you're doing everything. And obviously that's of course, so that must be Monique's experience, but it's clearly not Angel's.

Wendy (20:57.64)
Wendy (21:16.876)
And they did show a lot of scenes where Monique was very defensive last time she was on with the ladies and very explosive.

Kelli (21:27.594)
I mean, because they're flashing back to people coming for her marriage constantly. Like anybody would get defensive at that point. I mean, clearly Monique wasn't as happy as she portrayed to be, but you know what? She must have been for some time. Like, you know, she had four kids with this guy, three? Three kids?

Wendy (21:48.664)
I think three, I think three.

Kelli (21:50.969)
But I mean, Gisele and Robin were relentless with her. Relentless. Anybody would get defensive.

Wendy (21:56.558)
Yes.

Wendy (22:00.558)
Yes. Speaking of that, speaking of Giselle and Robin, I just recently saw that Robin was asked back this past season as a friend of, and she wouldn't accept it.

Kelli (22:16.364)
Really? Is that true though? Cause I remember hearing that.

Wendy (22:17.602)
Yep. I think it is because I think it was on the Reasonably Shady podcast because it also came out that Giselle is one of the housewives on the Ultimate Girls trip and Giselle slipped out that Robin is going to be one of the housewives that they visit.

Kelli (22:38.082)
Okay.

Wendy (22:39.5)
It also came out, I don't know if you heard this, I heard a lot of people on the Ultimate Girls Trip actually. It came out that Lea Black was asked to be a part of the Ultimate Girls Trip, but wouldn't do it because Alexis is on it and she wants nothing to do with Alexis.

Kelli (23:03.982)
believe it. Alexia, right? Alexia from Miami. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now I figured that. just, because there's so many Alexis's, yeah. Yeah, I believe it. And you know what? Leah Black don't need the money. Bravo. So keep it moving. Exactly. Only the ones who need the money are gonna do this.

Wendy (23:06.137)
And that's what I mean, Alexia. Yes, from Miami. Yes. Yeah, Alexia. No, no, Alexia from Miami.

Wendy (23:17.7)
Nope, she doesn't need the money and she doesn't need the aggravation.

That's, well, so there's, yeah, Kyle doesn't need the money. There's also a picture out there of Teresa and Jacqueline Lurita and Kelly Dodd. And supposedly that's their first stop because they're, you know, they're already filming. They've already started filming this.

Kelli (23:30.348)
I guess Kyle doesn't need the money, but.

Kelli (23:48.994)
which is kind of interesting that Kelly Dodd, they're showing Kelly Dodd.

Wendy (23:52.768)
I like it. Cause Vicky likes- Vicky-

Kelli (23:54.581)
I like it but I'm surprised because she's very outspoken against Bravo. So why would they?

Wendy (24:02.628)
Who knows? Because it's good TV. It's good TV. Right?

Kelli (24:09.208)
Does Teresa leave the show at any point? Because I don't think I can watch it with her on it. I really don't think I can watch it with her on it. I know this is horrible. You think she's on the whole time?

Wendy (24:18.914)
I doubt it. I doubt she leaves it. I doubt she leaves it. I do.

Wendy (24:27.202)
I do. I also heard, let's see, I heard for New York. It's gonna be...

Kelli (24:28.482)
I'll do some soul searching.

Wendy (24:37.924)
Carol Radswell is gonna make an appearance. Who else from New York? Cy and Jessel. No, but some old New York people too. but Kelly Ben-Symon.

Kelli (24:40.302)
Wendy (24:55.702)
I know. All right, let's get back to this one. I'm sure other ones will pop into my head.

Kelli (24:56.014)
She's so crazy that one.

Kelli (25:02.38)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (25:07.806)
Angel says that it's not her experience, what Monique is saying.

Wendy (25:07.842)
So then Angel...

Right, she says it, right, exactly. She said, okay, that's not my experience. And she said, I want to, you know, last night me saying I was going to check in with Bobby, it's just a respect thing. I agree with that 100%. It's absolutely a respect thing. They're his children. She said they're his children, they're my children. I use the verb watch, she said. And she had childcare.

Kelli (25:29.42)
Absolutely.

Wendy (25:38.988)
It's not like she didn't have a babysitter. It's not like, you know, she was... She had it taken care of. Which is what they were saying in the car. Like, what woman doesn't have it taken care of? Right.

Kelli (25:45.644)
Great. Giselle, what should they tell her about that?

Kelli (25:53.967)
Giselle, you probably couldn't get your husband to pay two minutes of attention to your girls, because he was out swinging his big D around the church, the congregation. So your husband probably never watched your girls. She's just bitter. She's miserable.

Wendy (25:54.253)
Yeah.

Wendy (26:03.651)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (26:11.052)
Yeah, she really is.

Kelli (26:15.982)
I'm gonna call her Missy instead of Jizzy, cause she's a missy.

Wendy (26:16.238)
So Angel said, Jizzy, miserable. You know what? That might be a good nickname for her. That's right. And she said, listen, there's a babysitter there tonight too. And then Wendy said, well, think the bigger issue is Jazzy, know Monique said multiple times, I want to have this conversation. Like, why did you have to tell her? And Jazzy said, well, at the end of the day, Angel's my friend. Now again, Wendy doesn't get involved.

Kelli (26:23.096)
Mizzy Jizzy.

Wendy (26:44.448)
in any of these conversations except for when she is inserting herself to cause trouble.

Kelli (26:51.202)
I agree.

Wendy (26:52.556)
And I don't know if you noticed it, to me this episode, she looked very different to me on screen. kept, didn't recognize her many times. I don't know, she looked, she looked very thin or something didn't, right? Did you notice that?

Kelli (27:02.178)
Yes, I agree.

Kelli (27:08.14)
Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, she was in the house with no running water. So, you know, maybe she did not have a glam team and the other women did. Like, who knows? But I agree with you. I thought she looked very thin. And I was thinking maybe she knew, maybe she knew like the feds, you know, because of the allegations that, you know, of everything alleged against her. Maybe she knew the feds were on to her and she was getting a little stressed out.

Wendy (27:10.722)
I was like, who is that? And then she'd,

Wendy (27:16.354)
Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (27:38.626)
Yeah, I was thinking that because she did look to me, not that she was ever heavy, but she just looked to me to be thinner than normal.

Kelli (27:43.224)
Mm-mm.

Wendy (27:47.672)
which is not a good thing. Giselle said, well, when did you all, this is the other thing that really, really bothered me. When did you all become so close? Because in Nevis, Jazzy said, Angel has called me ever since I met her. And Wendy said, off camera? And Jazzy said, yes. And then Giselle said, yeah, that's the issue. First of all, why is that the issue? Why is that the issue?

Kelli (28:13.772)
Right, because as if Giselle and Ashley don't meet up before the season's about to start and come up with their whole plan, who they're gonna go after and why, because they're happily married. Give me a break. You know damn well they do that.

Wendy (28:28.132)
And Jessie just met Angel in the season. So in order for her to get to know her, she's gonna have to call her. They're gonna have to get to know each other. They're gonna have to get together. Not every single time on camera. Not if it's gonna be a real friendship.

Kelli (28:40.494)
Right.

And, and Jassy's a friend of who, I mean, I think Jassy wants to be a full-time housewife, let's face it. And I think that that's why, I think that that's why when the season started, she was coming for Kay so hard because Kay got the housewife position that Jassy wanted. So yeah, Jassy's going to do the work she's putting in the work. Sometimes I don't like her delivery. Like when she says to Tia, you're in the house by default, quite honestly, it didn't even make sense what she was saying.

Wendy (28:50.892)
Right. Right.

Wendy (29:12.564)
No, no, and Tia shut that down right away. And so did Angel, by the way. Angel did too. Angel did too. But the fact that that's all Wendy had to add to the conversation? Like,

Kelli (29:15.484)
yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Kelli (29:24.526)
Yeah, like I want you to stand on business. And she wasn't letting Angel speak at all. She was being very gizellish.

Wendy (29:27.683)
Right.

Wendy (29:32.578)
Yep. Right. she said, I just want you to say, look, I don't F with you, you and you. First of all, who talks like that? Who talks like that? I mean, Giselle may talk like that.

Kelli (29:42.358)
Right. Right. Right.

Wendy (29:48.172)
A lady doesn't talk like that. A lady, if she doesn't, if...

Kelli (29:50.924)
No, and I don't even think, and that's not even what it is.

Wendy (29:54.582)
No, if she doesn't vibe with you, then she just doesn't vibe with you.

Kelli (29:58.455)
Right.

Wendy (30:00.332)
I mean...

Kelli (30:01.039)
sorry, I back Angel 100 % for not letting Giselle and Ashley in her home. Hell no. You are not sleeping in my home. Why? So you can start talking trash about me in your confessionals about my home, my husband. You're already doing that. I'm not gonna open my doors to give you something more to talk about. No, no.

Wendy (30:07.308)
I do too. I do too.

Wendy (30:26.916)
Right. Because even when Wendy is telling her that she's not standing on business, right? She said in her confessional that Gisele and Robin, put me in that bad room. I put them in that bad room when I did the Chesapeake trip, right? She admits to doing that. But she never told them to their face that's why she did that. But yet you want Angel to say,

Kelli (30:52.014)
Absolutely not.

Wendy (30:54.764)
You want Angel to do what you didn't do yourself? Like, that didn't make sense either.

Kelli (30:57.73)
Right. Right.

And I, like Tia said, Angel has become a target and it's a pylon. And she's absolutely right.

Wendy (31:06.892)
It's, it is, it really is, it is. I did like though, to be honest with that Monique did stay back with her a little bit. I'm not sure why Ashley was standing there next to her. I mean, she didn't contribute anything, but at least she wasn't piling on. And I was thinking about it, like she hasn't been piling on ever since she was uninvited. So maybe because Angel kind of, you know, put her in her place.

Kelli (31:17.048)
Yes.

Kelli (31:34.956)
Yes. I agree. I don't think Ashley has been piling on as much. I do think that it was very nice that Monique went over there and I think she gave her some good advice.

Wendy (31:35.384)
I don't know. I don't know why she was so quiet.

Wendy (31:51.14)
I do too.

Kelli (31:52.48)
And I think that Giselle saw that and walked right over and broke it up.

Wendy (31:58.616)
yeah, she absolutely did. That's 100 % what she did. Like, okay, what are we doing? Are we moving on? Well, you could have kept walking. You you go down the street, you knew where you were going.

Kelli (32:04.374)
And that's right.

Right, and I'm sorry, but what in the eighth grade semi was Gisele wearing with that denim dress? Short in the front and long in the back. She looked like she was going to an eighth grade dance. This woman has zero style and obviously I dislike her, especially this season. I've never been a huge fan, but I'm sorry. I know you're broke, cause I could tell. Get yourself a stylist.

Wendy (32:27.458)
You

Kelli (32:38.314)
At least bring your daughters with you shopping. That dress was horrible. her hair's much better now.

Wendy (32:41.88)
Ha ha!

Wendy (32:46.724)
I, listen, yeah, I was not a fan of that dress. I was not a fan of the way the dress fit her either, just putting that out there. I was not a fan of that. But what I did think was hysterical is watching Stacey and Wendy trying to walk in their stilettos and Mary J. Blige boots on the cobblestone and having little old Ashley.

Kelli (32:54.955)
No, it's horrible.

Wendy (33:14.37)
hold up the two giraffes. I was like, what is going on here?

Kelli (33:16.408)
Yeah, ladies. I mean, I guess, I mean, that's the thing. Like I know you're dressing for the occasion. I know you're going to Kimisabe and you don't know who you're going to see because you know, all of a sudden Moritsuko is there. But if you just what you said, if you can't walk in them, if you're not going to an event where you're literally walking in and sitting down like we're going to our mob wives event, I, you know, don't have the best knees.

Wendy (33:20.408)
If you can't walk in them, don't wear them!

Kelli (33:46.38)
and I bought very high heels to wear. Because I'm gonna walk in, I'm going to sit my ass down, and I'm gonna try not to walk anywhere else.

Wendy (33:57.444)
But you do know, I was just gonna let you know, you do know it's a wedding and there will be dancing. Like, it's a real wedding.

Kelli (34:04.802)
So it's like an interactive thing,

Wendy (34:07.2)
Yes, you may want to bring a, listen, the same thing I do when I go to a wedding, bring another pair of shoes to put on.

Kelli (34:13.654)
Alternate pair yeah, I will actually I will because that's gonna be like the first day I'm really wearing them, so they're not even gonna be broken in I mean they're silver shoes where else am I wearing them before that I love them I Love just walk around the house in them. I think I might I'm gonna have to

Wendy (34:24.179)
They're beautiful. I mean, they're absolutely beautiful. You should start wearing them around the house right now, though.

Wendy (34:33.89)
Yeah, because I'll be honest with you, I bought a pair of shoes to go to the party that I went to on Saturday night. And I tried them on in the store and I walked around with them in the store and they were black shoes. And I was like, okay, these are perfect. Thank God I brought another pair of shoes with me and a pair of slippers because when I put them on in the hotel room, my foot slid forward so much that my heel, there was too much space in the back of my heel. was like walking out of them.

Kelli (34:40.547)
Yeah.

Kelli (35:02.051)
Ugh.

Wendy (35:02.916)
Because I had like a stocking on. When I tried them on, I didn't have on stockings. No, I had barefoot on. I had a barefoot. But your foot doesn't slide. It doesn't slide. And then I'm like, oh. So I didn't wear them. I still am on the fence about them. I may try and wear them around the house with stockings to see if I can keep them. If not, they're going back.

Kelli (35:06.252)
Right socks.

Kelli (35:11.343)
okay, but no even- Right... Ooh.

Kelli (35:26.562)
Can't you put something in the front of them?

Wendy (35:29.62)
Matt did give me something when I got home to try and put in the front. I will try that and see if that works. Well, he, no, he did buy things. He gave me a whole bunch of stuff. I'm gonna try it and see if it works and see if it works. And he had things to go in the heel too. I was like, where was this one? I needed it on Saturday.

Kelli (35:33.036)
Yeah, there's probably something you could buy that's meant for that. Yeah. Okay, good, good,

Kelli (35:47.598)
Yeah, really. You're gonna have to just bring him with you like you're glam squad.

Wendy (35:52.108)
Exactly. Exactly.

Kelli (35:56.921)
But yeah, ladies, the stiletto boots, I get it though. They just, I mean, Kay trying to get her boots off was even more comical.

Wendy (36:01.389)
I know.

Wendy (36:09.144)
That was hysterical. And when she got them off, she's like, you can have them. Like she's never wearing them again. And the lady's like, they'll come up to my thighs.

Kelli (36:18.062)
That was funny when she said that. You can have them.

Wendy (36:20.388)
I mean it took two salespeople to get them off.

Kelli (36:24.654)
I mean they were beautiful. They were really pretty and Wendy's were beautiful, too

Wendy (36:28.43)
They were. They were. They absolutely were. But I could have never worn either of them. And I know it.

Kelli (36:33.016)
Yeah.

Kelli (36:36.749)
Yeah.

Wendy (36:38.404)
So when they get in the store, Angel said this is the place where she got her first cowboy hat. They make custom hats there. She gets all of her turquoise jewelry there, which she was wearing, and that this place is near and dear to her heart. She also said that Bobby likes to come shopping there because he loves the knives and he gets custom knives and custom holsters for his guns there. Tia's like, the smell of leather, which I honestly, I love that. I love that smell of leather.

Kelli (37:06.434)
Me too. Yeah.

Wendy (37:07.66)
I really do. And then Stacey's like, more like the smell of death. I didn't, yeah. I didn't think of it that way, but you know. But she did.

Kelli (37:17.922)
me neither. Yeah.

Wendy (37:24.994)
While they're all shopping, Angel and Kay are talking about how she is, Angel's saying this, but I don't really think she means it. She's saying that like, she's, she feels like these people aren't gonna understand me and I'm all right with that. I'm okay with them that they're not gonna understand me. I know that that's what she's saying and I know that that's what she wants to believe, but I don't really think she's there yet.

which is okay,

Kelli (37:56.717)
And I like how Kay is like taking on her feelings about it, you know?

Wendy (38:04.098)
Yeah, she said I'm gonna respect you as a friend, but I just want you to know, I think this is the reason Angel was saying it too, because I don't want you, to come jumping in, because I don't wanna have this fight anymore. Like, I don't wanna have this fight. I'm just gonna accept that this is how it is, and Kay's like, it's gonna be hard for me, but I respect it. This is your decision, then I'm just gonna, you know, I'm gonna back off. Because she was gonna go in, and she has gone in a couple times.

So this is the,

Kelli (38:35.574)
I felt bad when Angel said she doesn't know if she's comfortable going back to Maryland.

Wendy (38:41.12)
I did too. I did too. But listen, we know she bought a place. I think hopefully things have changed, right?

So this is what I put down. I thought this was so interesting. put down interesting. The ladies make their purchases downstairs and they don't show the totals like they do on Beverly Hills. On the Beverly Hills franchise, they always show the totals. But then when they go upstairs to the VIP bar after Ashley plays bartender,

Kelli (39:06.638)
they do.

Wendy (39:15.552)
I think it was Giselle that started off with, let's show off Ashley's $4,000 belt. And then they all had to announce what they spent on what they bought, which by the way, I thought was about the tackiest thing I've ever seen.

Kelli (39:24.557)
Yeah.

Kelli (39:33.102)
Me too, I have that written down, like, why are they saying how much they spent?

Wendy (39:41.41)
Right. They've never once in Beverly Hills said a number. Ever. Never ever. Production will put it. Production will put it. Because, because...

Kelli (39:45.326)
No. Right. Right. And then Wendy saying, she bought her daughter $225 earrings. Not only are we rich, but my kids are rich.

Wendy (39:56.633)
Yeah.

Wendy (40:00.694)
Yeah.

Yeah, I wrote down that's rich coming from you at that point, right?

Kelli (40:07.434)
Exactly! Exactly! Are you rich? Because you are allegedly trying to screw an insurance company.

Wendy (40:16.022)
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I just thought that was the tackiest thing I've ever seen. They announced what they bought and how much they spent. Never, ever on any of the franchises have I ever heard them announce what they spent. I like to see it on the screen or on the cash register when production shows it to us, but I don't want the women. It's tacky.

Kelli (40:23.032)
Yeah.

Kelli (40:33.314)
Yeah. Right.

Kelli (40:42.668)
It's very cringy. It's very cringy.

Wendy (40:46.253)
Right?

Wendy (40:49.634)
Like I always say, wealth whispers. These women do not know how to whisper. They just don't know how to whisper.

Kelli (40:52.258)
That's right. That's right.

Kelli (40:58.112)
Mm-hmm, but I like that Stacey said I'm not rich and then in her confessional. She's like I just know how to stay rich

Wendy (41:07.044)
Stacey actually had a couple really good lines that that was one of them. one was after drinking that pink pussy she said, I've never tasted that before. And Ashley said, I've heard. And then in her confessional she said, and after tasting it, I'm sure I'm on the right team.

Kelli (41:10.537)
I agree.

Kelli (41:24.302)
Very funny very very funny

Wendy (41:32.204)
And honestly, when they went upstairs to the VVIP and Stacey was wingman in it for Ashley, thought, listen, I was there for that too. I like watching that. I thought it was funny. I thought it was hysterical.

Kelli (41:35.918)
Hmm.

Kelli (41:45.378)
Yeah.

Me too, and I liked that Ashley was like, not with him about Mo, but somebody else, yes. Yeah, it was very good. Giselle pulled Ashley right away from Mo, And she said he's off limits.

Wendy (41:54.477)
Yep. Yep.

Wendy (42:01.826)
Yeah, I don't... I know, I know, but she, you know what, Ashley got mad at her and I think she should have because she was rude.

Kelli (42:12.11)
She was rude and you know maybe Ashley had a couple extra cocktails and maybe that's why Gisele was like let me step in here but she was very rude about it.

Wendy (42:18.104)
Drinks? Yeah.

Wendy (42:24.323)
Yeah.

Kelli (42:29.472)
and by the way, Giselle clowning on Kay and Angel for their caviar bumps. I even know what a caviar bump is and I don't eat caviar. So what parties is Giselle going to that she does not know about these things? And she's clowning on them for it. It's like, that's what people do.

Wendy (42:29.518)
Cuz I

Wendy (42:40.96)
I know, I know.

Wendy (42:47.032)
Right, and chasing it with champagne. That's what you do.

Kelli (42:49.932)
Yeah, like what do you, yeah.

Wendy (42:59.46)
I don't know, what are your thoughts about Giselle making that statement about Maurizio and Kyle and that she would like to get to know him better horizontally if it wasn't about the Kyle of it all? I mean...

Kelli (43:15.138)
Yeah, that's what I mean. Giselle said that, right? Yeah, I mean, you're saying it too.

Wendy (43:17.718)
Yeah, I think.

Right. I thought it was rude.

Kelli (43:24.002)
Maybe.

Yeah, I mean, she said she doesn't want any Potomac Beverly Hills beef, right? That's what she said? Well, it didn't... Yeah. me too, that'd be great.

Wendy (43:32.108)
Yeah, and now she's on the ultimate girls trip with her. I hope they have that conversation.

Right?

Kelli (43:40.418)
Yeah, maybe she was just pissed off that Mo wasn't even looking at her and he was looking at Ashley.

Wendy (43:46.166)
No, he was all over Gisele to be quick. Not all over her, but he went to her first. He said hi to her first. He hugged her first. Like, I think obviously she's known him the longest of all the ladies up there.

Kelli (43:48.204)
He was.

Kelli (43:56.216)
Right.

Wendy (44:02.948)
I like what Tia said, I've watched Beverly Hills and there's enough men in these streets not to have to recycle. I was like, that is a very good point, Tia.

Kelli (44:08.472)
Yeah.

Yeah, for sure. For sure.

Kelli (44:20.658)
Giselle announces that she planned a brunch tomorrow. So now they're going to go to the Four Seasons. Giselle is the big hero. She planned a brunch. And Angel says she has an activity planned. And then Giselle basically makes it as if the ladies can decide what they want to do and that they're probably going home after brunch.

Wendy (44:26.466)
Yes. She's got the executive suite.

Wendy (44:42.53)
Yeah.

Kelli (44:44.92)
So that's interesting. I will say this though, did you see previews? And I guess some of the ladies don't go to Angel's activity and the women who do get lost, like Angel gets them lost.

Wendy (45:06.286)
Well, okay, I did see it and what I wrote down was, next week's episode seems like the ladies are split, it's a bit of a disaster, I did not see any fly fishing, I'll have to wait and see. Like I did not see they ever got to that destination.

Kelli (45:20.31)
I don't think they get to fly fishing.

Wendy (45:23.918)
Hmm, very interesting.

Kelli (45:26.859)
Yeah.

Wendy (45:29.142)
I hope that's not the case, but we'll have to wait and see.

Kelli (45:34.959)
It doesn't, it's not looking good. I mean, really, because they're like, Angel, don't you own Wanderlust or whatever? Like, yeah, it's not looking good. I know. Come on, man. Pull it together, Angel. Pull it together. Yeah. Well, that's all I was gonna say before. You know, I think that fans of the show, whether Angel comes back or not, and I hope she does because I really like her.

Wendy (45:41.888)
Right. Fly fishing's their big thing that she does. It's like world class.

Wendy (45:51.32)
We're rooting for you, Angel!

Kelli (46:03.832)
but I don't think she is. Either way, she would be leaving as a fan favorite. think, I mean, I don't know, listeners, chime in. Like if you think Gisele is justified in how she's treating her, let us know. Because I'm not a huge Gisele fan, so I'm gonna find fault, I'll be honest with you.

Wendy (46:24.832)
No, really? You don't like Giselle? I would have never guessed that.

Kelli (46:28.482)
But if somebody out there is a Giselle fan and sees it from a different perspective, let us know. I'd like to hear it.

Wendy (46:35.116)
No, I would like to hear it too, because as it stands right now...

I'm not a Gisele fan. Ashley, I would like Ashley better if Gisele wasn't around. And I did like Ashley better when Robin was around because Gisele was preoccupied with Robin.

Kelli (46:49.688)
Exactly.

Kelli (46:56.898)
Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (46:58.334)
So I'm very curious to see what happens at the reunion when Karen comes out and to see how that goes because this is the first no Giselle's not in the first seat and it's been a long time since just Stacey and Wendy Wendy and Stacey Wendy and Stacey

Kelli (47:17.55)
Stacy?

Kelli (47:26.126)
Giselle has never not been in the first seat, I believe.

Wendy (47:29.91)
I think one season she was not in the first seat.

Kelli (47:36.718)
because it's typically always Karen, right? And Giselle.

Wendy (47:39.67)
Yes. I think Giselle, I do think, which season was it?

Wendy (47:48.984)
I don't know, I'd have to go back and, I mean, this is the 10th season. Can you believe this has been 10 seasons of Potomac?

Kelli (47:54.328)
That's crazy. And this is, this was episode 16, right?

Wendy (47:58.98)
15. 15.

Kelli (48:00.174)
15. So there can't be much more.

Wendy (48:04.096)
No, there can't be. I'm...

Kelli (48:05.218)
But they didn't say next week on the season finale.

Wendy (48:08.531)
No, they didn't. It's gotta be though, don't you think? I don't know. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Kelli (48:11.978)
I know. I know.

Wendy (48:18.468)
All right, I have nothing else. Do you have anything else? Okay. Until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe and give us five star reviews. Bye.

Kelli (48:22.156)
Nope, I'm good.

Kelli (48:30.211)
Bye.