RHOSLC- S6 Reunion Part 1-Risky Friends, Sealed Files & Smoky Eyes

RHOSLC- S6 Reunion Part 1-Risky Friends, Sealed Files & Smoky Eyes

RHOSLC S6 E17 – Reunion Part 1

Andy Cohen opens the reunion with compliments, shade, and quick check-ins—DJ Meredith Marks is “on pause” from touring, Whitney’s back to blonde, Heather’s Surviving Mormonism gets praise, and Mary delivers her signature deadpan energy right out of the gate.

❄️ Meredith vs. Whitney: BravoCon Fallout

Meredith sets the tone by confronting Whitney about a drunken BravoCon conversation. Whitney insists she was just being kind and trying to mend fences, not retracting anything she’s said. Meredith fires back, claiming Whitney was “fall-down drunk” and wanted to keep peace off-camera while filming continued. The argument escalates fast—Lisa jumps in, Whitney tells her to shut up, and Mary calmly reminds Whitney she has the floor. Spoiler: no apology, no resolution, just tension.

🍸 Lisa Barlow: Risky Friend or Misunderstood Icon?

Andy pivots to Lisa, questioning her friendships and reputation. Heather confirms Lisa is still a “risky friend,” while Lisa calls Heather snakey and insists she doesn’t “ride in packs.” Mary labels Lisa delusional and offensive for claiming she lives a “different life,” while Meredith tries to smooth it over by saying everyone does.

🧾 Lawsuits, Miami Rumors & Facelift Gate

Viewer questions ignite chaos. Whitney admits she questioned Lisa’s absence from the RV trip, suspecting Miami recovery rather than work—and yes, possibly a facelift. Bronwyn owns bringing up Lisa’s lawsuits when they weren’t speaking, while Lisa lays out the legal facts: one case pending, one active, the rest dismissed.

🔥 Lisa vs. Bronwyn: Truce Fully Broken

What starts as legal sparring turns explosive. Accusations fly about paid dismissals, sealed cases, and personal attacks. Bronwyn reveals video evidence from BravoCon allegedly showing Lisa body-shaming her husband. Lisa denies it—then immediately doubles down, calling him “a pervert.” Andy admits the truce is clearly dead and moves on.

💄 Smoky Eyes, Brand Deals & Arby’s Shade

Andy lightens the mood with talk of Lisa’s smoky eye fail and Angie’s Arby’s commercial. Angie denies trolling, Lisa claims she hasn’t even seen the ad, and then declares everyone benefits from her “wings.” Whitney jokes their brand deals exist because of Lisa—Lisa responds by accusing them of wanting to “skin me and be me.”

🛥️ Below Deck Crossover & Flirting Drama

Britani arrives with an emotional support bear, while the women discuss filming Below Deck Down Under. Heather denies hooking up with Captain Jason—joking that if it happened, everyone would know.

🕵️‍♀️ Bronwyn’s Past & Sealed Cases

Andy presses Bronwyn on sealed legal matters. She explains a workplace dispute, dismissed cases, past evictions, and emphasizes accountability. Meredith and Lisa whisper, triggering another flare-up. Bronwyn accuses Lisa of amplifying negative press—even if she didn’t leak it directly.

💼 “What Do You Actually Do?” Explosion

Heather questions Lisa’s business model, setting off a nuclear meltdown. Lisa details Luxe Marketing, brand incubation, and multimillion-dollar exits—while screaming that questioning her finances is “disgusting.” Meredith backs her up. Angie admits she still doesn’t know what Luxe Marketing does.

📜 The Reunion Ends in Chaos

Just when it can’t get messier, Angie pulls out a scroll, claiming the phone number trolling her matches Lisa’s. Lisa explodes, threatening to expose what’s on Angie’s phone—cut to black.

Transcript

Wendy (00:01.262)
Welcome to WeeWine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:04.761)
I'm Kelly.

We Wine Whenever (00:05.612)
and I'm Lori.

Wendy (00:07.714)
We are talking about Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, Season 6, Episode 17, Reunion Part 1.

We Wine Whenever (00:18.21)
Yes.

Wendy (00:19.594)
So the first thing we're going to chat about are their reunion looks. I have them on the screen behind me. Laurie, we'll start with you. Which one is your favorite?

We Wine Whenever (00:23.758)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (00:31.43)
I think that my favorite is Angie. So I'm just going to go from Angie and go over. Angie looks great. I think Heather, the gown did nothing for her. I think Bronwyn, gown did nothing for her. Meredith looks stunning. Lisa's dress is very pretty. Mary is an absolute fail. And she's a very pretty girl, but it's just, it's just horrible.

and Whitney was meh.

Wendy (01:05.6)
Okay.

We Wine Whenever (01:05.794)
And that's from Fashionista Moi.

Kelli (01:10.138)
Well, we're all entitled to opinions.

Wendy (01:12.406)
Absolutely. And Kel, which was your favorite?

Kelli (01:15.898)
So I hate to admit it because I thought she came off awful, but Lisa was by far my favorite. I thought Lisa looked amazing.

We Wine Whenever (01:23.426)
I knew Luz was gonna be your favorite. I knew it was gonna be your... Yeah.

Wendy (01:25.195)
You like, you love Lisa's look. You do.

Kelli (01:28.128)
I do love Lisa's look, I do. And I thought her dress was amazing. And I did like Angie's. I did like Angie's.

We Wine Whenever (01:32.758)
I knew you were gonna like hers.

Wendy (01:38.648)
So I actually think Meredith is my favorite look. I think that Meredith looks amazing. I agree with you about Heather's dress. It does nothing for her. I do.

Kelli (01:46.704)
She does.

Kelli (01:53.424)
She's just in such great shape. It's like, absolutely.

We Wine Whenever (01:55.896)
Yeah, and she's a beautiful girl. It's just, it just says nothing, nothing.

Wendy (02:01.428)
I love Braunwyn's extensions. I love that for something different. I do not like their color scheme. They are in Santa Torini, right?

We Wine Whenever (02:04.238)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (02:12.844)
Yes, Santa Ernie,

Kelli (02:13.946)
Santorini, yeah.

Wendy (02:14.568)
And why are we not in all different hues of blue? Like, why? Why do we have red and maroon and yellow? Like, what were they thinking? Not, I'm blaming the producers on this because the producers are the one who put this together. Yes, yes. It really, it really is.

We Wine Whenever (02:18.7)
Yeah, makes sense man.

We Wine Whenever (02:24.471)
Makes no sense.

We Wine Whenever (02:28.119)
absolutely.

Kelli (02:29.274)
Well, yeah, they give direction.

We Wine Whenever (02:31.212)
Yeah, no, it's a mess. It's a hot mess. And I'll tell you another thing that's a hot mess. Is whoever thought that throwing those three area rugs on the floor was doing anything. They were absolutely fucking wrong. It was just.

Kelli (02:49.4)
I always love to get Lori's opinion on the set, because I don't even notice it, I'll be honest with you. I notice what they're wearing and I always notice what lipstick they're wearing.

We Wine Whenever (02:53.762)
Yeah, no, no, the rugs, like stop.

Yeah, no, no, the rugs on the floor were a fail. Fail.

Wendy (03:04.012)
Yeah.

Kelli (03:04.538)
hysterical.

Wendy (03:07.118)
So the interesting thing about this reunion, thought, they normally show us quite a bit of the arrival and the behind the scenes bit. And there was pretty much no arrival and very little behind the scenes. The first thing we really saw was them walking out and sitting down, which I'm fine with, to be quite honest with you. I'm totally fine with that. I don't need to see them arriving. I don't.

Kelli (03:15.822)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (03:20.482)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Kelli (03:34.832)
Listen, if there's something that said that, you know, so they filmed the reunion and then, you know, the producers edit it the way they choose to edit it. So if something happened prior to the filming that we need to know or something is a little scathing, fine. But if not, we're good. We don't need to see them get ready. That's just silly. That's a waste of tape.

Wendy (03:37.912)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (03:53.432)
Right, Right.

Wendy (03:53.74)
Right. Right, exactly. Exactly. So Andy starts out by asking DJ Meredith Marks how her tour is going. Yes, she's like, she's on a pause for the holidays, but it's going good.

We Wine Whenever (04:04.846)
Stop it. Stop it.

Kelli (04:06.095)
Nice.

We Wine Whenever (04:12.622)
That's all I have to say.

Wendy (04:13.122)
Then he's, I know, then he says hi to Bronwyn that she looks beautiful and he's sure she's wearing couture and wants to know if there's gonna be a costume change. There's never ever been a costume change in a reunion. So I don't know what that was about. Yeah.

Kelli (04:25.52)
I agree. I thought it was a weird question. Yeah, weird question.

We Wine Whenever (04:27.116)
Yeah, yeah, I was like, what?

Wendy (04:30.446)
Then he said to Whitney, loving that you're back to your blonde look. Okay. Next was Heather. I loved your surviving Mormonism, your, you know, docu-series. It was incredible. I did. I watched it. It's very good. It's very good. Then he... I watched that one too. Also very good. Also very good.

Kelli (04:43.908)
Did you guys watch that?

We Wine Whenever (04:45.314)
I started to, I gotta finish it, I wanna finish it, cause it was good. The ones that I watched were good.

Kelli (04:48.659)
I did not watch it.

Kelli (04:54.628)
I still have to watch the Mary Cosby one.

We Wine Whenever (04:56.952)
the Armenian.

Kelli (04:59.588)
Yeah, should, do a podcast on that. I'll definitely watch that.

Wendy (05:03.15)
Okay, then he said, Pastor Mary. Are you going to be eating, drinking, and being Mary today? Okay. Like he had to use her tagline back at her? I don't know. And then it was, Hi, baby gorgeous. Are you still leading a very different life? And she's like, always. Like Lisa.

Kelli (05:24.538)
Lisa was really feeling herself this reunion. Really, really feeling herself. I feel like it was on another level.

We Wine Whenever (05:28.236)
Ugh.

Wendy (05:29.728)
She always is.

We Wine Whenever (05:31.17)
Yeah, but it was really, yeah, it was over the top. It was.

Kelli (05:38.384)
And I thought she came off terrible.

We Wine Whenever (05:40.942)
Horrible. Horrible. Horrible.

Wendy (05:45.998)
So the first question is to Meredith, what's your goal coming into tonight's reunion? And she said, well, there's one thing that I need to ask first, and that will change my trajectory. So Whitney, when you and I spoke at BravoCon, I'd like to have some things cleared up. So go ahead. I'll give you the floor, she says to Whitney. I was like, OK. So Whitney said, well, I had a lot to drink at BravoCon. And.

when I drink, a very happy, loving drunk, which I agree with her, she probably is that way. And she said, I tried to talk to you, Meredith, and I said that, you know, I feel like, you know, we had a falling out and I would like for things just to be better and I would like for us to move forward. And she said, I never retracted what I said. And Meredith said, no, you asked if we could be friends off camera and leave camera on.

And Whitney said, no, I did not retract anything. I was trying to be kind. And then you lied about me. And then the two of them just go back and forth with this.

Kelli (06:55.216)
So I guess what happened was they had a conversation, right? And Whitney was drunk and in her feelings and was like, let's just be friends, let's just put it behind us, let's just get past it. And then Meredith must have gone on some kind of social media outlet or somewhere and said that Whitney retracted what she said about the plane, which is not true. I can't see that being true.

Wendy (06:58.968)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (07:24.108)
No, me neither.

Kelli (07:24.152)
And I guess that's what Whitney is calling her out on.

We Wine Whenever (07:27.639)
Right.

Kelli (07:29.954)
I can't see her retracting anything.

Wendy (07:33.046)
No, no, she's not retracting it. She's not.

We Wine Whenever (07:33.335)
No.

Kelli (07:36.514)
and Meredith is lying once again.

Wendy (07:40.28)
Right. So.

Kelli (07:41.328)
because there had to be other people there witnessing this conversation. Couldn't have just been the two of them. I'm sure there were other people around.

Wendy (07:49.88)
Well, if it was a bravacon, I'm sure there was other people around. Yeah. And then Lisa jumps in on the conversation. Right. She jumps in on the conversation. She's interrupting. She's saying, you said horrible things about us. You called us whores and cheaters. Whitney said to shut up to Lisa. And Lisa and Meredith, both like, we don't have to shut up. Don't tell her to shut up. And meanwhile, Mary's sitting next to Whitney.

Kelli (07:52.592)
That's what I'm saying, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (07:58.753)
Of course.

Wendy (08:18.402)
like telling her like calmly, like you have the floor, like you have it, like giving her like encouragement to get, right, right, right. So then Andy says to Meredith, now that you have the answer to your question, how do you think the trajectory will go? And Meredith said, well, I'm waiting. What? Meredith and Lisa are the queens of not ever actually answering a question. They never answer a question.

Kelli (08:23.034)
Just stay calm, just stay calm, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (08:24.482)
Yes, they can. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (08:39.8)
You know what?

We Wine Whenever (08:46.67)
No, no. They say a lot, but they don't say shit. That's what they know. And the over talking is next level.

Kelli (08:47.242)
Absolutely. Right.

Wendy (08:48.792)
They say a lot, but they never answer the question, ever.

Kelli (08:55.29)
Right. Right. Totally agree.

Wendy (08:55.672)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (09:02.838)
Yes.

Kelli (09:03.716)
Well, I think it's going to be Lisa who's going to be the one to send Andy up and walking off the stage because he has said that in the past that she's very difficult at reunions. She's very difficult to, you know, keep, keep a hold of.

We Wine Whenever (09:17.688)
Right. I can see that definitely.

Kelli (09:20.356)
For sure, for sure.

Wendy (09:23.79)
So then the next thing Andy moves on to is Lisa. He said, you I want to talk to Lisa. You know, you may have missed the RV trip, but when it came to defend yourself, you showed up and you did your clarity lunch. Did it actually, you know, answer any questions? Like, no. And he asked Heather if she can, if she still considers Lisa a risky friend. And Heather said, yeah, I do. Lisa said to Heather, said that Heather can be a snaky friend. I think she's a snaky friend.

Kelli (09:39.734)
you

Wendy (09:53.312)
No, I've first of all, I've never heard that term before. Snaky friends. Okay.

Kelli (09:57.957)
I think she went to say sneaky and acts like a snake and it came out as sneaky. I think that's where she was going. If I had to put myself in Lisa's head.

Wendy (10:02.54)
Right, snaky, right. So she kept going.

We Wine Whenever (10:04.515)
She made up her own word.

You guys are going...

Wendy (10:08.984)
Right.

I mean, that's probably it. So then the two of them are going back and forth at each other. And of course, Meredith is jumping in and you know, Heather's like, you know, we ride for each other, you know, we ride for each other. And I don't and I don't do that Utah thing, she said. Lisa said, I don't do that Utah thing. And Heather's like, well, you are from Utah. What are you talking about? She's like, no, no.

We Wine Whenever (10:13.102)
Brightening.

Wendy (10:38.478)
She's like, you're a house, you're a Salt Lake City housewife. What are you talking about? You've been here, whatever, how many years? Yeah. And Andy said to Lisa, well, where do you consider yourself from? And she's like, New York.

We Wine Whenever (10:43.214)
25 years.

Kelli (10:49.914)
Yeah, my DNA is New York, not Utah. I wonder how old she was when she moved. I mean, I agree with her. Like, listen, I could move to Florida tomorrow and live there for the next 20 years. I'm still gonna be Jersey. Yeah. So I kind of get what she's saying, but I do wonder how old she was when she moved. And no disrespect to Long Island, she's from Long Island. It's not like she's from the city where she's like, I'm Brooklyn. You know what I mean?

Wendy (10:53.4)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (11:00.982)
And you're still a Jersey girl. You're a Jersey girl, right?

We Wine Whenever (11:18.178)
Right, right.

Wendy (11:19.95)
But New York is New York. New York is New York.

Kelli (11:20.336)
It is, it is, is, but it's just funny how-

Wendy (11:25.248)
It's a whole state. It's a whole state. Right? It's a whole state. Yeah.

Kelli (11:28.876)
Yeah, it's just funny. you know, like, so where are you? Well, whatever. It doesn't matter. But I wonder how old she was when she moved from New York.

Wendy (11:38.528)
I wonder too. And then Andy asked Mary what she thought and she said, if Lisa was a risky friend. And Andy's like, yeah, she goes, yeah, I think she is a risky friend. And Lisa's like, well, tell me, how am I risky? Like, give me examples. She's like, well, you're a little delusional. You say things that aren't true. Like you said, you live a very different life. Like Mary said, it doesn't make sense. And then Meredith jumps in to defend her.

She's like, well, think we... Right.

We Wine Whenever (12:07.95)
Which made no sense. Meredith's response made no sense because what you're saying, Meredith, is totally different from what Lisa said. Lisa didn't say her life is totally different because it's hers. Lisa was saying her life is totally different because it's like way bigger, way better than any of you peons.

Kelli (12:31.566)
Right, she's rolling with higher level crap.

We Wine Whenever (12:34.062)
Yeah, yeah, which was not.

Wendy (12:37.378)
Right. Whereas Meredith was saying.

Kelli (12:38.384)
How about Whitney? How about Whitney saying though, Lisa didn't go on the RV trip because she was recovering in Miami from having a facelift. That was great.

We Wine Whenever (12:47.285)
That's great.

Wendy (12:49.164)
Yep, love that.

I'm surprised she didn't bring up her threads like she did last time.

Kelli (12:57.571)
I know.

We Wine Whenever (12:57.578)
she talked about her threads. She talked about her threads. They asked her. Yeah. They asked her what, what have, what have you got done? She said, she said, yeah, she talked about her threads. Hell yeah. She talked about her threads. Yeah.

Kelli (13:00.536)
in the reunion? see? You watched it on Peacock!

Wendy (13:07.071)
I didn't see.

Kelli (13:08.377)
Me neither.

Damn it. I had to watch it last night because I had to finish Traders today after work. So I had to watch it last night on my DVR. But Reunions, you have to watch on Peacock. You get so much more. so see, she did. There you go.

Wendy (13:13.75)
Okay, good, I'm glad you watched Peacock.

We Wine Whenever (13:17.038)
Today, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (13:26.476)
Yeah, you get so much more. Yeah. So she totally, she, she totally talked about it, but Lisa is like, she's totally delusional to say that she doesn't tag team with Meredith. I was like, what? What are you talking about?

Kelli (13:38.762)
yeah, it's ridiculous.

Kelli (13:43.92)
They are like ride or die now. Even if they're not making sense, they're just gonna keep sticking up for each other.

We Wine Whenever (13:53.038)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (13:55.234)
It's true. It's true. That's where they're at.

Kelli (13:55.621)
That's just, yeah, that's, yep, that's where they're at. And it doesn't seem like it's gonna change anytime soon.

We Wine Whenever (14:00.062)
I don't know. There's something there. Maybe Meredith gave Lisa like free legal advice or something and said, know what bitch, between this and the things that you said about me on that hot mic moment, you're gonna ride. I don't know what it is.

Kelli (14:16.688)
But Meredith is doing it for Lisa too, so it's going both ways. But I agree with you, Meredith, I don't know if she's got something on Lisa, I don't know.

We Wine Whenever (14:22.894)
Yeah, I don't know.

Something, something.

Wendy (14:29.048)
So then a viewer asked Whitney why you were so eager to bring up the lawsuits at the lunch on the RV trip when Lisa wasn't there to defend herself. And that's when she said about the facelift that she didn't think she was there. But then she went on to also talk about, know, I've never seen you with Ben Affleck. And she said, I thought you were recuperating. And then Bronwyn jumped in. She's like, you know.

Why did you Braunwyn have to jump in on that with all the lawsuits? She's like, it's not like I researched it or anything. I just read an article in the newspaper. And that's pretty much it was like out there. It was out there in the newspaper. It's not like she was digging up stuff. And Braunwyn's response was you made it clear at the last reunion that you and I were not going to be friends. We hadn't spoken at that point. You made it very clear. listen, I'm just putting out there what's out there.

We Wine Whenever (15:07.512)
Yeah, that's it.

Kelli (15:28.058)
Right. And the thing about Lisa is Lisa will talk about all of them. Lisa will bring stuff up, but when they bring something up about her, she's like, you're so obsessed with me. You're so obsessed with me. It's like, you do the same thing to them. Like you're on a show and unfortunately this franchise has gotten to the point where this is what they're doing with each other. And she's doing it just as much as them. So if they're obsessed with her, she's obsessed with them.

We Wine Whenever (15:38.734)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (15:38.999)
Yeah, right.

We Wine Whenever (15:49.218)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (15:55.83)
And it was absolutely hysterical and I guess.

Either she's an idiot or she just doesn't care. talking about that Whitney said she didn't believe that she was with Ben Affleck, she shows a picture on her phone and production puts up there 2017. Like, what are you doing?

Kelli (16:12.47)
Yeah.

Kelli (16:16.59)
Yeah. I mean, was the show even on then? What season is this? This is season six. The show wasn't even on then.

Wendy (16:21.166)
No, six. No. No.

We Wine Whenever (16:23.532)
Stop. It was like, like, what are you doing? Like what?

Kelli (16:27.204)
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you can tell by that picture that was years ago. She looks a lot different.

We Wine Whenever (16:32.686)
Well, production, production put up there, the date. They put up the date, 2017. It's like, what, what, what is that?

Wendy (16:36.258)
Yeah, they did, 2017.

Wendy (16:43.31)
Well, even so then Andy says to Lisa, well, what are the facts? And again, she even stumbles over her own facts. She said, well, I have one pending case, which we hope to resolve this with summary judgment. And there's one case actively being litigated and the rest are dismissed. So then she says, like, why do you choose to denigrate my name? And Heather said, because you say you're richer than us. And by the way, a summary judgment means that you had to pay. And Lisa said to...

Then she brings Braunwyn in. said, Braunwyn, your case is very different than mine. Yours is criminal. This is a civil litigation.

Kelli (17:19.952)
don't know if that's true about summary judgment. Summary judgment means that you're out of the case. Like they couldn't, it was, they couldn't find you responsible. So I don't know if that's necessarily true. But whatever, it doesn't matter.

Wendy (17:24.131)
new videos.

We Wine Whenever (17:31.219)
We'll have to look at that.

Wendy (17:34.03)
Right, honestly Lisa doesn't know the answer either, by the way. Right? whether it's true or not, Lisa didn't know. Because if she did, she would have said something. Right?

We Wine Whenever (17:38.454)
No, she sure did not.

Kelli (17:38.474)
She sure did not. She surely did not.

We Wine Whenever (17:46.584)
Did you guys catch when they were talking about, Whitney was talking about that she thought maybe Lisa was going to have the facelift done and Whitney was saying there's really good doctors in Miami. Did you catch Mary? She said, well, he wasn't a good one.

Kelli (18:04.022)
Yes, I did. Because I didn't realize what she was talking about. And I think I like rewound. I'm like, would she, you know, yes, that was funny.

Wendy (18:05.92)
I did.

We Wine Whenever (18:07.778)
Yeah.

Wendy (18:12.494)
But while they're having this conversation, Lisa's the one who throws Bronwyn's name into it. Bronwyn wasn't even a part of this conversation. She hadn't even jumped in on it. And Bronwyn says, you could say whatever you like about me if you need to deflect from your... And that's exactly what was going on. That's exactly what Lisa does. And it even goes back to when she was mad at Bronwyn, but taking it out on Angie.

We Wine Whenever (18:19.775)
Nope.

Kelli (18:20.824)
Right. Right.

Kelli (18:28.964)
Yes. Yes.

Wendy (18:37.9)
She was mad about something Braunwyn said and taking it out on Angie. Angie had nothing to do with it. And that's what Lisa does. She just picks whoever it is she wants to use as her deflection. Which is crazy.

We Wine Whenever (18:37.944)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (18:38.426)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (18:48.944)
Yeah. And she, and she brought up the fake miscarriage story again. And like that's, it's just, it's just really shitty. Nobody's about your kids. Nobody's talking about your husband. Yet you brought that up again, which is a terrible, terrible thing to bring up. And plus the video of you body shaming God.

Wendy (18:53.024)
Again, again!

We Wine Whenever (18:54.082)
Again.

Wendy (18:59.19)
Yeah.

Wendy (19:03.713)
No.

We Wine Whenever (19:12.462)
Bravo Khan. Horrible. Horrible, horrible, horrible.

Kelli (19:16.876)
I mean, again, looked, she just looked like a complete bitch on this episode. She really did. And did not look like she gave one single F about it.

Wendy (19:19.854)
That was horrible.

We Wine Whenever (19:25.184)
Absolutely. Yes.

Wendy (19:27.65)
She did.

We Wine Whenever (19:32.62)
No, no, all she did was say, I do amazing things. I do very cool things. Like, just stop.

Wendy (19:33.144)
Now.

Kelli (19:38.224)
Yeah.

Wendy (19:48.088)
Well, Bronwyn said to Lisa, we had a truce, and Andy said, yeah, I thought you did have a truce, and Lisa said, yes, and I'm abiding by it. How are you abiding by it? And that's what makes me mad is that Andy doesn't call her out. He doesn't call her out.

Kelli (19:48.239)
Yeah, she just-

Kelli (19:57.733)
Yeah, you're not abiding by it.

We Wine Whenever (20:02.604)
Yeah, what's up with that?

Kelli (20:02.724)
Nope. He only goes so far with her, just like he only goes so far with Tamara, just like he only goes so far with Teresa. These are the ones that get away with it. Lisa and quite honestly, Meredith, he lets Meredith get away with it as well. Giselle, he lets Giselle get away with it. He's got his favorites.

We Wine Whenever (20:22.338)
I guess so. And I don't recall Bronwyn ever saying anything about Lisa's kids or John.

Wendy (20:31.604)
No! No, never! Never, never. Never. And Andy ends it by, okay, we're not gonna resolve this, let's move on. And it's like, then he goes to Lisa's smokey eye. okay, really? You go from that to Lisa's smokey eye?

Kelli (20:32.304)
No, not at all. No.

Kelli (20:42.116)
Right, right.

Kelli (20:51.224)
It was pretty funny though. She's like, we tried it. We tried something and it didn't land.

We Wine Whenever (20:57.59)
And then I was crying. Like, she had like every dumb excuse in the book. It was just very odd.

Kelli (21:03.246)
I do think she was crying in that confessional look though, because I think that is the look where they asked her about John and their conversation. So I do think that's what it was. Because when you cry and your eyes, your makeup's gonna run, your lashes are gonna fall off, and we never know the timing of how things are gonna play out. I think it's so funny though that he brought that up.

We Wine Whenever (21:09.998)
Mmm, maybe.

We Wine Whenever (21:16.174)
All right. Right.

We Wine Whenever (21:23.628)
Right. Right.

Wendy (21:23.842)
Right.

Wendy (21:32.27)
The next thing Andy says is a viewer asked Angie if she was trolling Lisa with her Arby's commercial and her, I don't know what that other brand was. Do you know what that other brand was? And she said, no, like if brand deals come my way, you know, I'm gonna take them. And Andy says, well, it does seem like a slight troll. I do not think it seems like a troll. I agree with Angie.

We Wine Whenever (21:40.91)
Yeah, I don't know what it

Kelli (21:41.262)
Now, some kind of tequila, I don't know.

We Wine Whenever (21:54.562)
No. Yeah, no.

Kelli (21:56.537)
I agree with Angie. mean, not one of them sitting there is gonna turn down a brand deal.

Wendy (22:03.072)
Right. Right.

We Wine Whenever (22:04.546)
And how about Lisa saying, oh people have benefited from my wins and that's exciting for them. Oh my god, okay. Whatever you say Lisa.

Kelli (22:11.728)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (22:15.288)
And Lisa said Brahman wants to skin her and wear her and be her.

We Wine Whenever (22:18.466)
No, I don't think so.

Wendy (22:19.69)
first she said if I was a credit card I'd probably sue you for identity theft. What?

We Wine Whenever (22:25.742)
Ugh.

Kelli (22:26.778)
Somebody told her to say that and somebody told her to say it a different way because the way she said it did not make sense.

Wendy (22:34.504)
No, she doesn't make sense. That's the thing. mean, halfway into it, she was asking Meredith, like, did I forget anything or we do it like...

Kelli (22:35.339)
No.

We Wine Whenever (22:40.718)
Am I missing anything?

Kelli (22:41.168)
So I was just gonna bring that up. So Andy says they're gonna go on a break and Lisa looks at Meredith and says, did I miss anything? That was weird.

We Wine Whenever (22:50.274)
That was weird. Yeah. Like what kind of pre-planned agenda did the two of you have? So you can't tell me you're not tag teaming. And then this one's over there saying, did I miss it? Okay. Okay.

Wendy (22:52.088)
Right.

Kelli (22:55.737)
It... correct.

Kelli (23:00.4)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (23:03.994)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (23:07.138)
Yeah. Then Andy says we're gonna go through the last hundred episodes and he goes through a bunch of the clips. I really actually did enjoy watching those clips. Like there was a bunch of stuff that I had forgotten about. And I'll be honest with you, I would love a whole episode about like a rewind. Yeah, I would like that.

Kelli (23:17.39)
I did too. Yeah, I did too.

We Wine Whenever (23:18.636)
Yeah, I like that too. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (23:24.724)
So little clips. Yep. That would be cute.

Kelli (23:26.725)
Yeah.

Wendy (23:30.786)
Then he asked Meredith if she thought that this would last six seasons. And she said no, she thought only five. And maybe she should have ended it at five for herself.

We Wine Whenever (23:38.923)
Maybe.

Kelli (23:40.302)
Yeah, I agree. I concur. She should have. Let me answer that for you, Meredith. You should have.

We Wine Whenever (23:42.327)
Maybe.

Wendy (23:46.23)
Yes, we think you should have. And then he asked Whitney like what her thoughts were. And she said that when she started this, she told Justin and she told everyone that she was just going to be real. And she thinks that she has and she feels like it's been cathartic for her. And I do think that Whitney has been real. I do think that she tries to show up. And I do think that she has learned from this experience. And I do think because he does ask later who's grown the most. And she immediately said me.

Kelli (23:48.782)
Mm-hmm, for sure.

Kelli (24:16.72)
I agree. I do too. And I think she's oh, yeah. I think that Whitney has always 100 % put everything out there.

Wendy (24:16.748)
And I agree with her. I agree with her. And I also agree with Heather because...

Kelli (24:29.538)
I think she's a very good housewife for that reason.

Wendy (24:29.678)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (24:32.354)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (24:33.666)
I do too. I do too.

Kelli (24:34.724)
Her voice drives me up wall. But I do think she's a good housewife.

We Wine Whenever (24:37.421)
Yes.

Wendy (24:37.804)
Yeah.

Wendy (24:43.458)
Then Andy moves on to Mary and he said, when you first started, you were defined by your unconventional backstory. And Andy said, interesting and not now, like that is like kind of at the bottom of the paragraph, the fact that she's married to her step-grandfather. Well, it's at the bottom of the paragraph, but he better get into that documentary. He really better ask questions about it. I know it hadn't aired yet.

Kelli (24:50.511)
merit.

Kelli (25:08.772)
I think we saw, yeah, but I think we saw a preview that he does ask her about it.

Wendy (25:13.516)
We saw one question, yeah, and she made a face.

Kelli (25:18.168)
I mean, she's probably not going to talk about it. It's not like she authorized the documentary. She's probably just going to say she don't want to talk about it. I mean, you can't force her. Yeah, because it's not something she did if she, you know, was involved with it maybe, but she clearly was not.

Wendy (25:23.238)
no.

We Wine Whenever (25:26.284)
Right. Knowing Mary, yeah.

Wendy (25:34.891)
no, she refused to comment. She refused to comment.

Kelli (25:38.104)
Mm-hmm. I don't blame her, I would too. Right, I would too.

Wendy (25:40.012)
because she can't comment.

Mm-hmm.

And he did say that she went from looking like you kind of hated everybody to trying to bring everybody back together. That I do agree. I agree with that.

Kelli (25:55.023)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (25:55.81)
Yeah. And I thought it was sweet how she said that she just kind of fell in love with everybody.

Kelli (26:02.03)
and she sees the beauty in all of them. And she said she didn't feel like she belonged in the beginning, but a lot of that was due to Jen Shaw. Jen Shaw never liked Mary being on that show.

Wendy (26:02.103)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (26:03.992)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Wendy (26:05.226)
She- she did.

Wendy (26:13.26)
It was.

No, because of the grandfather thing. And because when Mary met her, she told her she smelt like hospital.

Kelli (26:22.16)
Hospital.

Wendy (26:24.642)
But Mary did give Meredith credit for being there for her from the very beginning, because Meredith was the only one that was with her in the very beginning.

We Wine Whenever (26:30.765)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (26:33.294)
Yeah, she was. Yeah, she was.

Wendy (26:39.988)
And then Andy asked Lisa, what do you consider about yourself? What's the most misunderstood about yourself after six seasons? And she's like, well, they don't get, they say that I'm delusional. That's the common theme. I'm not delusional.

We Wine Whenever (26:57.026)
Okay, this is the thing. This is the thing, Lisa. If for six seasons people think that you're delusional, not just the people you work with, the people who watch your show, thousands of fans, if multiple, if I had multiple people telling me they thought I was delusional, I'd be signing myself in somewhere. I'd be very concerned. I'd be like, fuck.

Kelli (27:28.73)
Well, it's like Heather DeBros said on OC one season to Alexis Bellino, when everyone's telling you you're dead, it's time to lie down. And I hate that analogy, but that's what she was saying basically. Like everybody's saying it. When everybody's saying it, it's time to self-reflect.

We Wine Whenever (27:43.874)
Right.

Wendy (27:48.268)
Yeah. She said.

We Wine Whenever (27:48.856)
There is not a lick of self-reflection going on there.

Wendy (27:52.19)
No. She said, I'm very grounded. Okay, because you take off your shoes and you stand on the grass. mean, I think that's right. I think that's why she thinks she's grounded.

We Wine Whenever (27:55.51)
Okay.

We Wine Whenever (28:00.49)
and talk to the trees.

Kelli (28:00.923)
That's it. That's it.

We Wine Whenever (28:04.429)
Yeah, I think so.

Kelli (28:05.114)
For sure. Yep.

Wendy (28:08.962)
And then the next one was a viewer asked who changed the most in the six years and Mary raises her hand and Mary says that, know, I think so, you know, and she did Mary to absolutely change. Heather also felt like she changed. They come back from the break and then Brittany is out.

We Wine Whenever (28:27.276)
Now, I have to ask you guys this. Her dress.

Kelli (28:28.302)
Within, okay.

We Wine Whenever (28:33.996)
On the one side, I don't know if they had the mic right there, but it, cause when you first looked at it, I was like, my God, like her nipple is going to pop right out. But I think it was the microphone, but it looked very weird. looked, it could be mistaken for like a nip slip. was like, what's going on? And then I think, I think it's a mic, but put it in the middle next time production.

Wendy (28:40.61)
I think they did.

Wendy (28:46.584)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (28:50.288)
I didn't even notice that.

Wendy (28:56.206)
I think it was the microphone, to be honest with you.

Kelli (28:59.05)
I was so distracted by the Build-A-Bear. I mean, I'm sorry, Jared definitely has a membership. But you know what's interesting? That didn't even, yeah, you can get a Build-A-Bear membership. Absolutely. He's definitely got it. That didn't even sound like his voice on there. Did you think it did? I didn't. I'm like, that's not him.

Wendy (29:03.49)
There.

We Wine Whenever (29:04.56)
my god.

Wendy (29:10.158)
Is that even a thing?

We Wine Whenever (29:14.687)
He's definitely got it. He's definitely got it.

Wendy (29:15.054)
you

We Wine Whenever (29:22.383)
you didn't think so? I thought it did, yeah. You didn't think so?

Wendy (29:24.238)
I did, I did, yeah.

Kelli (29:27.632)
I didn't think it was him, but maybe I'm just reaching. I mean, it's gotta be him. He's got the membership.

We Wine Whenever (29:33.902)
He's got the membership, telling you. He's using the shit out of that. Every last piece of stuffing it's worth.

Kelli (29:37.584)
For sure, man, for sure.

Wendy (29:45.496)
So then Andy moves to the below deck down under and he asks like what it's like to be on another platform, another show and Heather's like we don't even notice the cameras anymore. Like she didn't even, I don't know. mean, I think it's hard to say because if you're doing this six years and there's cameras everywhere and you go on a show where there's also cameras to realize that there's other people's cameras there I think is what she was saying.

Kelli (29:55.982)
I don't believe that,

Wendy (30:14.722)
Like she's so used to cameras being there.

Kelli (30:17.028)
Well, think, yeah, I think what she was saying was, cause Andy said, are you nervous about what the other side is gonna show? And that's what she was saying. Like we don't, we're not paying attention to whose camera's whose. So, right, got it.

We Wine Whenever (30:29.676)
Right. Right.

Wendy (30:29.773)
Right.

Yeah. And then Mary said Heather and Whitney might have something to be worried about, especially with the cucumber.

Kelli (30:40.496)
you

Wendy (30:42.666)
It's funny. He asked Brittany about having a good time flirting with the deckhands and were you doing that just to make Jared jealous? And is she, I mean, she did say yes, but she was trying to say that Heather was flirting just as much as she was, which I like, yeah, I don't know why she was trying to do that. Right.

Kelli (31:01.68)
Yeah, everyone shut that down though. Everybody was like, no, no,

We Wine Whenever (31:03.736)
Yeah.

Wendy (31:10.412)
And then Andy asked Heather what the final word was on Captain Jason. And she's like, listen, like when I say we like F around, like I mean it differently than other people mean it. She's like, like we hung out every day. We went to clubs, we danced, like that's who we are. She's like, and then Whitney said, people don't understand your sarcasm. Andy said, well, did you kiss? she's like, no, we, you know, we never kissed. She's like, I want to make it clear. Like if I was with...

Captain Jason, like I would scream from the rooftops. Like I would be, you know, wearing a sailor suit here. Like she was clarifying what her words meant. And I think that that's what she was doing. I don't think that she was implying that she slept with him. I think you do though, Kelly, from the look on your face.

Kelli (31:54.757)
Yeah, I think they definitely hooked up. I don't know if they actually had sex, but I think they definitely hooked up. And I don't think that Captain Jason wants it out there. I've said this before. I think that he's a player and he doesn't, you know, kiss and tell, and he expects other people to not kiss and tell. And I don't think that Heather did that on purpose. I think she was, you know, under the influence of alcohol and just, and just said it like,

But I don't think they necessarily had sex. Eric and I kid around all the time because we'll talk about people and I'm like, yeah, I hung out with him for a little while. So like hang out, Eric's like define hang out. I'm like, it could be a multitude of things. So let's just leave it at that. This is in my past before I got married, obviously.

We Wine Whenever (32:36.13)
There you go. So just leave it at that.

Wendy (32:40.653)
Right, right.

We Wine Whenever (32:42.722)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (32:43.332)
So I don't think they necessarily had sex, but I think something happened. Why wouldn't it happen? She and Whitney were down there and they were all hanging out and Whitney's married and she's not and it's a normal thing. But I don't think he kisses and tells and I don't think he wants anybody else kissing and telling.

We Wine Whenever (32:53.11)
Right, right, right.

Wendy (32:59.832)
I mean, that could be, that could be.

Kelli (33:01.4)
Yeah. And I don't think she did it on purpose. Again, I think she was buzzed and just said it and then was like, shit.

Wendy (33:08.086)
And either way, like you said, they're two consenting adults. She's not married, he's not married. So it is what it is, right?

We Wine Whenever (33:08.259)
Yeah.

Kelli (33:11.664)
For sure.

Kelli (33:16.054)
Absolutely, absolutely.

Wendy (33:20.995)
Then.

We Wine Whenever (33:21.038)
How about Lisa? I forget even how it came up in conversation. Talking about reading. Do you guys remember that? Just talking about something about reading. And Lisa's like, well, I can read. I was an early reader. I was reading it. I was like, oh my God.

Kelli (33:34.586)
This might've been a Peacock exclusive.

Kelli (33:43.064)
she did say that.

Wendy (33:43.075)
yeah, that came up later.

Wendy (33:48.942)
It's when she's taught, that's three and a half, three and a half years old, yeah. That's when it was asked about, and they come back from a break, Andy says to Lisa once and for all, did you leak the information about Bronwyn's past to the press? And Lisa said, no, that's ridiculous. And that's when she said, Bronwyn said, I don't think she leaked those specific words, but she does make sure that the stories get traction.

Kelli (33:49.892)
Did she say she was reading at three? Did she say that?

We Wine Whenever (33:50.574)
Kelli (33:59.089)
Ugh.

Wendy (34:15.616)
And Lisa said, well, it comes up on Twitter and I can read. That's when she said that about in reference to that. Yeah, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (34:19.822)
That's when she said that. Oh my gosh. I was like, Oh, Lisa, just stop.

Wendy (34:24.834)
Yeah.

Kelli (34:25.328)
I mean, no wonder she's doing big things. She's a genius. She was reading at three and a half.

We Wine Whenever (34:28.632)
She's a genius. Well, you know, she says, I do big things with big deal people. I'm a big fucking deal. You know, when you have to toot your own horn so much, it's telling.

Wendy (34:29.026)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (34:47.979)
It's telling.

Wendy (34:49.87)
Prior to that happening, comes up about Bronwyn's case and what was leaked to the press. And Bronwyn said, no, actually, I think it was Heather that said, just because a case is sealed doesn't mean a person can't talk about it. I'm not sure who said that. But then Bronwyn explained, that is true if I was the person who had the case sealed, but I am not the person that had the case sealed. So I cannot speak about it. And because of what has happened in the past,

with my husband and my daughter in this group. I will not be discussing this. And I don't blame her.

We Wine Whenever (35:26.19)
Mm-hmm. No?

Kelli (35:26.276)
Right, a gag order is when you can't speak about it. But I totally understood what she was saying. Like somebody had this case sealed, somebody doesn't want it talked about, so I'm not gonna be the one on a public platform to start talking about it. Yeah.

Wendy (35:29.886)
Right. So then Andy said, can... Yes, I do too.

Wendy (35:41.026)
to talk about it. And then Andy said, can you talk about what the nature of the sealed case was? And she said, yeah, it was something that happened in the workplace. The case was fully dismissed against the person it was about. It was years ago. She goes, I just got my citizenship. And this year, she goes, if I had a felony, they're not going to make me a citizen. Like, they're not giving out citizenships to people who have felonies. Which is true.

We Wine Whenever (35:41.569)
Absolutely, yeah.

Kelli (36:07.866)
Well, the climate that we are living in right now, we're certainly not gonna get political, but they are not just handing out citizenships. So she's right, if there was something major that was warranting being exposed, she probably wouldn't have gotten it, especially being a public person.

Wendy (36:12.334)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (36:18.711)
No.

We Wine Whenever (36:28.172)
Now, she wouldn't have gotten it. Yep.

Absolutely.

Wendy (36:32.014)
Right. And then Andy brings up, which I, again, now I think that this is stupid and shady, according to Reddit in 2018. Okay. As soon as you say according to Reddit, you've lost all credibility. Seriously. That's like saying, okay, well I saw on Wikipedia,

Kelli (36:44.88)
100 %

We Wine Whenever (36:45.674)
Absolutely, all credit value. Yeah.

Kelli (36:51.082)
Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (36:51.148)
Yeah, no.

Wendy (36:53.336)
I mean, come on!

We Wine Whenever (36:54.326)
That's like saying some lady, some lady told me at the grocery store. That's about.

Kelli (36:57.794)
Yeah, basically. The National Enquirer says...

Wendy (36:58.188)
Exactly. Right.

We Wine Whenever (37:01.934)
Is that even around anymore? I don't know.

Wendy (37:02.326)
Right, right.

Kelli (37:05.808)
I don't know. I haven't seen it in a long time, damn it. My mother had that every week when we were growing up. Every week. This is where my pop culture fascination started.

Wendy (37:06.67)
I don't know. That's a good question.

We Wine Whenever (37:11.694)
so funny.

Wendy (37:17.39)
It's the National Enquirer.

Kelli (37:20.098)
National Enquirer. We were too good for the sun, but we got the National Enquirer.

Wendy (37:23.704)
So,

What about the star? That was another one.

Kelli (37:30.704)
Pretty sure we had that one too.

Wendy (37:32.47)
Okay. So when Andy brings up what was on Reddit, Bronwyn said, that's what people are alleging. said, Andy said, besides the eviction and this charges, what else was charged against you? She goes, listen. And she said, I was in college, I had a dispute with a roommate, I'd been evicted. These things were 20 plus years ago, they were expunged. Like she is willing to talk about her history.

That happened to her.

Kelli (38:02.864)
And not only talk about it, but acknowledge that she made poor choices in the past Like she's not even saying wasn't my fault. It wasn't me like she's like I I made bad choices Like you never hear a housewife say that

Wendy (38:10.06)
Yes!

Wendy (38:17.772)
Right. And I... No. I applaud her.

We Wine Whenever (38:21.134)
And the National Enquirer is still around.

Kelli (38:26.638)
Excellent, thank you. maybe I will subscribe.

Wendy (38:26.673)
thank you.

We Wine Whenever (38:28.504)
than Google.

Wendy (38:29.902)
But then Andy feels the need to ask Meredith, has she heard of any other lawsuits and charges against Bronwyn? Like, why? Why are you asking her that?

Kelli (38:42.064)
I thought that was shady too, but I will give credit where credit's due. I thought Meredith handled that very well.

We Wine Whenever (38:47.532)
Yes she did. Yes she did.

Wendy (38:49.678)
Well, listen, she said, listen, I haven't really tracked it. But Andy said, because this is why I feel like he asked her, he said, it seems like the two of you are talking, you and Lisa, while whispering during this whole thing, which they were. And she said, oh, no, that was about something else, something that I'm going to use in the future. I may need to use in the future, at some point in time.

We Wine Whenever (39:02.796)
Which they were, which is rude.

Kelli (39:09.562)
They totally lied.

Kelli (39:15.93)
Yeah, they totally lied because they were talking about, they were talking about.

Wendy (39:19.48)
Right. And that's when Heather called them out on tag teaming. and you guys are saying that you're not tag teaming.

Wendy (39:28.942)
And actually what I wrote down because they put the captions on Lisa was whispering. It wasn't that bad They weren't getting reactions out of you until now and Meredith said now I'm done I Don't even know what that means to be honest with you. I don't even know what that means

Kelli (39:43.408)
I don't either. I don't either.

We Wine Whenever (39:47.118)
I don't even care.

Wendy (39:48.95)
No. No, I don't either. I don't either.

Kelli (39:53.669)
When Heather said she doesn't understand Lisa's business, I thought Lisa was gonna lunge off the couch.

We Wine Whenever (40:00.514)
Yeah, mean, why, why, but why, why would you be so self defensive? Why wouldn't you just, you could, it could have very easily been explained what she does very easily.

Wendy (40:00.752)
my God, that was the best.

Kelli (40:13.796)
Well, it's Luxe marketing, which can really be a lot of different things.

Wendy (40:14.296)
She doesn't know what she does.

We Wine Whenever (40:21.986)
Well, you know, she said, I do, experiential activations. And I was like, look at you Lisa Barler with the big words. So I looked it up. it's, experiential activations are immersive interactive brand marketing events that engage consumers senses to create memorable experiences, moving beyond simple advertising to build emotional connections, drive brand awareness and foster loyalty.

Kelli (40:31.898)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (40:51.886)
through activities like interactive installations, pop-up shops, or themed events that let people feel the brand, not just see it. They're designed to be shareable on social media, turning participants into brand advocates, and often blending physical and digital elements for deeper engagements, which is really not that hard to do.

Wendy (41:16.878)
But did you look up any that Lux Marketing actually did, any brands that we know of, any actual expert?

We Wine Whenever (41:21.61)
No.

Kelli (41:21.678)
Well, she said she did a business with the Bella Twins and then they sold it and Heather said, yeah, and you don't talk to them anymore. So there was some kind of falling out. And that's really when Lisa started flying off the table, off the handle.

We Wine Whenever (41:29.936)
huh.

We Wine Whenever (41:36.194)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (41:39.416)
I mean, she was.

We Wine Whenever (41:42.838)
Yeah, it was just very odd. Like, why when you just...

Kelli (41:43.344)
tube is off the chain.

Just say it's a marketing firm. It's a marketing firm.

We Wine Whenever (41:49.454)
Yeah, you could very easily explain what you do without acting like an ass.

Kelli (41:58.648)
Well, some people can.

We Wine Whenever (42:00.131)
Yes.

Wendy (42:00.78)
Right. Right.

Kelli (42:01.924)
because I do know people in certain industries that won't make it as if their jobs are, you know, it's too hard to explain. It's like, try me. I think I'll be all right.

We Wine Whenever (42:12.598)
Yeah. Right.

Wendy (42:16.472)
I think what it is is, because there's a lot of things on social media, like people are looking up her Vita tequila. Supposedly it's not widely distributed. When she goes to a restaurant, she brings it in there before she shows up. I haven't looked into it, but there's a lot of people out there looking into her businesses and they all are like, they're not real, is what people are saying. And I think that's what Heather was trying to call her out on.

Kelli (42:26.383)
Right.

Kelli (42:42.874)
Really?

Wendy (42:45.154)
These are not real businesses. This is not a real thing.

Kelli (42:45.52)
Uh-huh. But I mean, she has to have some legitimate business. She's clearly making money. She's getting glam every day. I mean, she can't have some guy paying for all this stuff.

Wendy (42:59.978)
I mean, it could be a house. It could be a house of cards. mean, let's just say it. Wendy is Neffo.

Kelli (43:06.233)
Eventually, I mean this has been six seasons, eventually you have to pay your bills.

We Wine Whenever (43:06.377)
Absolutely.

Wendy (43:15.054)
Again, we don't, like, we don't know. We don't know. We don't know.

We Wine Whenever (43:19.36)
And when you're on her site and you go to portfolio, which I would think would be where you would have all of the people that you've worked with, there's just pictures. There's just pictures. It says modeling photography. No, there's a...

Wendy (43:27.426)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (43:31.07)
all of her brands, right, where you showcase.

Wendy (43:41.326)
Alright. There's no testimonials. There's no testimonials.

We Wine Whenever (43:48.259)
real estate photography and pictures. There's just pictures. And it's not even like, because I was thinking, okay, so maybe this is some person that she worked with and I'm gonna click on the photo and then it's gonna take me to who, no, it's just a bunch of photographs. It's very bizarre, very bizarre. I was thinking, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Wendy (43:52.141)
Yeah.

Kelli (44:11.824)
That's you Googled Lux marketing. Okay.

We Wine Whenever (44:17.494)
And I really thought I was gonna... I'm on their website. I thought I was gonna say...

Wendy (44:18.082)
and you're on their website.

We Wine Whenever (44:25.206)
a list of their clients.

Wendy (44:27.426)
And then look up Vita Tequila and see what you say. Because from what I understand, it's not... Yes.

We Wine Whenever (44:33.89)
How do you spell it? V-I-D-A?

Wendy (44:38.83)
So she talks about, know, Heather says like, why are you freaking out? And Lisa says, because you know me, you've gone to events with Daniel Radcliffe and they show a picture of the NMB launch party, which was the Bella Twins launch party in 2019 and Heather's there. Okay, so you threw a launch party in 2019 and Daniel Radcliffe was there. This is, I mean, when they're filming it, it's 2025. That's six years ago.

Kelli (45:04.984)
Right? Like it was so long ago. Yeah. Just like your picture with Ben Affleck.

We Wine Whenever (45:07.476)
very interesting. Very interesting. I typed in Vita Tequila and there was a thing. says, what is the lawsuit against Vita Tequila? AI overview. Vita Tequila owned by Real Housewives star Lisa Barlow has faced multiple lawsuits from individuals alleging unpaid loans.

Wendy (45:07.574)
Right, what have you done lately?

Right.

We Wine Whenever (45:32.047)
with claims totaling hundreds of thousands of dollars for business funding through some cases have been dismissed or settled. Why Barlow consistently denies the allegations stating she pays her bills and that some suits involve personal disputes disguised as business matters. Oh, so that's the Bart Carlson one. Remember we were talking about him. And then another $400,000 one from William McGarry Trust.

Wendy (45:51.554)
Yes. Yes.

Kelli (45:53.508)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (46:02.676)
So yeah, so I guess there were a lot of,

Kelli (46:05.456)
So she still currently has law, that's two lawsuits you just mentioned. So she lied on the reunion and said there was only one.

We Wine Whenever (46:08.652)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (46:14.454)
Yeah, there's two. interesting.

Wendy (46:16.472)
She lies about everything. Lisa lies.

Kelli (46:18.286)
Yeah, well, Hershey and Meredith, birds of a feather.

We Wine Whenever (46:22.67)
Let's lock together.

Kelli (46:24.259)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (46:26.304)
Yeah, so I just don't think she looked very good at this reunion. I mean, maybe it's just because I don't like her, but it's just to me, was not a good look.

Wendy (46:26.764)
Yeah.

Kelli (46:27.141)
Well.

Kelli (46:35.086)
What did you think about Heather saying Lisa's not a good friend, but she's an important friend?

Wendy (46:40.43)
understand that, and I don't understand why she's dying on that hill. Like, what does that mean?

Kelli (46:41.592)
I didn't understand it either. Yeah. I don't know. I didn't understand it either. Why is she important to keep you on the show? Like to keep you, you know what I mean? Like to keep you engaged in something on the show or.

We Wine Whenever (46:45.879)
I don't know.

We Wine Whenever (46:54.966)
Maybe she feels like she has to be some kind, like have some kind of friendship with her because of the show. I don't know.

Kelli (47:02.946)
Or was it shady, like she's an important friend, because she says she does big things. Right. Yeah, I didn't understand that.

We Wine Whenever (47:08.228)
cause she's so important.

Wendy (47:12.246)
because then Andy says two things can be true. Andy validates what Heather's saying, that two things can be true.

Kelli (47:19.918)
Right. Right.

We Wine Whenever (47:19.97)
Yeah, I didn't get it. I didn't get what was going on. I got no idea.

Wendy (47:23.682)
And then Andy says to Angie, like, you've known Lisa for a long time, what do you think? And that's when Angie pulls out this little scroll that was gifted to her. Right, was gifted to her by Meredith.

Kelli (47:30.874)
that Meredith gave her.

Wendy (47:37.228)
I mean, I'm very curious to see how this turns out the next episode because what she says is that the person that's been trolling me, the phone number is Lisa Barlow's phone number. I don't know.

We Wine Whenever (47:47.116)
laces phone him.

Kelli (47:51.342)
And then Lisa says to her, you want to talk about the pictures on your phone? What was that all about?

We Wine Whenever (47:51.405)
Well, it-

Wendy (47:56.012)
Right. Yep, what is that all about?

We Wine Whenever (48:00.353)
is all about. Well, you know, but it really doesn't make sense. Like, why would you use your own phone? It's just so easy to get busted. That doesn't make sense.

Wendy (48:05.036)
None of it makes sense.

Kelli (48:12.88)
I totally agree. doesn't make sense. I totally agree with that. Why she would use her own phone.

We Wine Whenever (48:14.478)
Yeah, I don't know. But listen, none of these shows make sense, so what the hell do...

Kelli (48:21.05)
But I feel like if Angie brought it up, it's, I don't think Angie's a liar and I don't think Angie's bringing anything up that she doesn't have. Yeah, Timeline screenshots.

We Wine Whenever (48:26.744)
Maybe there's something to it.

Wendy (48:38.296)
We're gonna have to wait until next week to find out.

We Wine Whenever (48:40.777)
Yeah, we should.

Kelli (48:42.072)
I bought myself some Karastase shampoo today.

We Wine Whenever (48:45.99)
you did.

Wendy (48:46.392)
Did you?

Kelli (48:47.51)
because Tess loves this stuff. got her oil, hair oil and something else for Christmas. So I'm like, let me see what the buzz is about. Yeah, so I'm gonna do my, I gotta do my roots, Sephora. That's no, because it was Sephora. No discount.

We Wine Whenever (48:54.296)
No, I'll have to try it.

Wendy (48:57.112)
Did you get it at?

Did you get it at discount?

Wendy (49:05.601)
You could probably buy it definitely from Karastas with like a discount code from Angie, I would think.

Kelli (49:12.544)
Yeah, or, you know, with my cosmetology license, like, yeah, I probably could have, didn't think of that. I just wanted to try it. I'll report back.

We Wine Whenever (49:16.716)
Yeah, come on.

Wendy (49:17.108)
Yes, yes.

We Wine Whenever (49:23.948)
Yeah, I'm curious.

Wendy (49:24.749)
Okay.

We Wine Whenever (49:27.224)
Cause I got some wild hair, so I'm always looking for the product. Yeah, like this high body count here. Yeah. You have a low body count?

Wendy (49:27.373)
Yeah.

Kelli (49:30.032)
Well, that's why I'm wondering, will I have high body count hair? Because I don't have a high body count. I have a very low body count. So I would like my hair to reflect that.

Wendy (49:36.526)
No, but Angie said it prevents the high body count here.

We Wine Whenever (49:40.619)
Yeah.

Kelli (49:43.69)
Right. So that is the goal.

We Wine Whenever (49:46.05)
Yes. All right.

Wendy (49:46.282)
Right, right. Yeah, you should be okay.

We Wine Whenever (49:51.096)
So we shall see part two, the gum is on.

Wendy (49:53.634)
We'll have to wait till the second part. Until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe and give us five star reviews. Bye.

Kelli (50:01.818)
Bye.

We Wine Whenever (50:02.681)
Bye.