RHOP-Pink Ponies, Shady Kisses, and Family Fights

RHOP-Pink Ponies, Shady Kisses, and Family Fights

RHOP S10 E12 – “Potomac and Ponies and Problems” Podcast Summary

This episode picks up right where tensions left off, with Angel clarifying the confusion around her move and timeline. She insists there was no eviction and that had she known the exact July 1 date, she never would’ve put her family in that position. Ashley questions whether Angel moved to be part of the group, which Angel firmly denies.

At the polo day, relationships and awkward dynamics take center stage. Eddie shares with the guys that his and Wendy’s 15-year anniversary is coming up—and Wendy wants a new ring. Charisse introduces herself to Stacy’s partner Thiemo, who later leaves early, prompting Giselle to question why the group is “handling him with kid gloves.”

The day turns playful with lawn games: a three-legged race (Ashley & Jassi win), tug-of-war, and a pink inflatable pony relay. But the fun is quickly overshadowed by a bombshell revelation—Ashley admits she once kissed Charisse’s son Jackson after a crab boil in 2023. The group is stunned, with reactions ranging from disbelief to “that should’ve gone to the grave.”

At home, we see deeper family and relationship moments. Tia juggles parenting woes and reconnects emotionally with her sister Ameera, sharing a powerful conversation about their late father, childhood distance, and healing as adults. Angel prepares for a Colorado trip tied to her luxury outdoor business, Wanderland, while feeling overwhelmed trying to host friends properly.

Stacy and Thiemo attempt to rebuild their relationship, bonding at the gym and agreeing they made the right choice for their daughter. Meanwhile, Kiarna moves back in with Greg—again—only to be left questioning his commitment after an underwhelming “gift” and his refusal to discuss changing the deed if they marry.

The emotional core of the episode belongs to Wendy. After renovating her home, she bravely reaches out to her estranged father for the first time in years. The call is warm, emotional, and leaves Wendy hopeful. However, that optimism is shattered when Wendy’s mother and sister visit. What begins as admiration for the renovations erupts into a painful, explosive argument about Wendy’s father—his absence, past hurt, and unresolved resentment. The argument escalates in front of the children, forcing Wendy to draw boundaries, which only fuels her mother’s anger. Eddie steps in to de-escalate, but the damage is done, leaving Wendy in tears and feeling painfully alone.

The episode ends with fractured relationships, unresolved family trauma, and the reminder that in Potomac, even a day of ponies can’t outrun deep-rooted problems.

Transcript

Wendy (00:00.814)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:04.187)
I'm Kelly.

Wendy (00:06.21)
We are doing Real Housewives of Potomac, Season 10, Episode Number 12, Potomac and Ponies and Problems. Okay.

Kelli (00:18.241)
I don't understand the po- what's the ponies?

Wendy (00:21.282)
I guess when they were doing the pink pony games. Yeah, I know. It wasn't a great name. Yeah, I know. Not pink inflatable ponies.

Kelli (00:25.138)
Okay.

I was thinking horses, like, you know.

hahahaha

Right, I guess Pink Pony. What was that song? Pink Pony. Whatever. Pink Pony Club, which is a strip bar, I believe, yeah.

Wendy (00:43.618)
That's it. There you go. So we pick up where we left off at the family party where they were grilling Angel about her place, whether or not she was evicted. And she said, listen, I was just confused. thought that they had the dates that, I knew that the date was July 1st and I couldn't put myself and my family in this situation.

Whatever, it is what it is, like stop making something out of nothing at this point.

Kelli (01:15.58)
Well, yeah, and then to look up the definition of eviction. She was not evicted. She was not served with any papers. certified letter came to the house. Like her Airbnb ended. That's all before she was prepared to leave. Maybe she was hoping that the place wasn't going to book up. Like maybe that's how she left it with the agent, whoever, you know, is in charge of this or homeowner, whoever.

Wendy (01:28.908)
Right, that's it. Simple.

Kelli (01:42.608)
Like maybe she was like, listen, I think I'll be good on August 1st, or whatever July 1st, but you know, maybe not, but you know, and maybe the woman was like, well, as of right now, nobody has it after you. So she was like, all right, cool. Let's just leave it at that. I mean, there's a very simple explanation that does not need to be investigated. And

Wendy (01:47.736)
July.

Wendy (02:03.2)
No, it doesn't. And it doesn't need to be, you know, talked about in confessionals by many people.

Kelli (02:08.76)
Right, and the thing is, is that what's your purpose here of continuously bringing this up? Are you trying to make it like she can't afford where she lives? Because I'm quite certain that they're fine financially.

Wendy (02:22.53)
No, I'm sure, yes, I'm sure they are. I'm sure they are. Yeah. Right. And then Ashley has to end the conversation with, know, okay, good, I'm glad, because I just was worried. I'm just glad that you guys are all okay. no, you're not, Ashley. No, you are not. We know.

Kelli (02:25.04)
So you could just stop with that.

Kelli (02:36.882)
Exactly. Always under the guise of caring. You don't care, you're just being messy.

Wendy (02:45.198)
Yeah, I did think the next conversation was interesting with Eddie talking to the men and about his 15 year wedding anniversary coming up and how Wendy wants a new ring. I was like, oof, that one's gonna hit hard.

Kelli (02:58.098)
Every time they talk about money or the renovation or anything like that, it's like, knowing what we know now.

Wendy (03:09.322)
Yeah, exactly. It's tough.

Kelli (03:11.846)
mean, especially at the end, but obviously we'll get there.

Wendy (03:14.238)
Yeah. Then Sharice goes over to introduce herself to Timo. I mean, that was shady. Come on.

Kelli (03:22.948)
It was so shady, but I loved Stacey said, here comes Cherise slithering over in lingerie. And she was legit wearing lingerie. I mean, I do think Cherise looks amazing. I thought it was a really cute outfit, but you knew you were coming somewhere where there were going to be little kids. I don't know if it was the most appropriate thing to wear, but she did, but she did look good. But yeah, not, not appropriate.

Wendy (03:44.663)
It wasn't.

Yeah.

No. No, and I agree with you.

Kelli (03:51.536)
And I think Andy asked Ashley that on Watch What Happens Live, and she was like, no, Charisse was serving. And she was, but not for a family fun event.

Wendy (04:02.358)
No, exactly, not for a family fun event. But I love the way Stacey always handles it. She always handles it with grace and class, and it's just a non-issue. She makes it a non-issue, and I love that.

Kelli (04:14.214)
Yep. Yep. Absolutely.

Wendy (04:19.294)
Shortly after that she walks over to say, know to Wendy and Eddie, you I'm really glad that you know, we got to meet and you know, we want to move forward with the friendship and you know, team who's gonna have to go and Eddie's like wait, I wanted to talk and they're like, yeah, we're gonna talk just not right here Not today

Kelli (04:35.836)
Not today. That man cannot stay in one place for too long. Maybe, you know what I was thinking? Maybe he's Batman. Maybe he got the signal. And he was like, whoop, I gotta go.

Wendy (04:43.566)
Listen, I think he's playing it smart with these ladies. You got to get in and out. Just get in and out.

Kelli (04:50.098)
For sure. For sure, because I don't know if this is true or not. It's probably not. Again, the whole AI thing on social media. But I saw something real quick today about Giselle saying that she had a very alarming conversation with Angel's husband, Bobby. Now again, I don't know if this is true or not. saw it real quick. But this poor guy is probably so regretful that he came on this show.

because of what Gisele and Ashley are doing. So Timo is playing it smart. For sure.

Wendy (05:19.512)
would be.

Yeah, yeah. So then Wendy goes over and tells Giselle and Ashley that, you know, T-Mu left and Giselle is like, why are we catering to him? Like, why are we handling him with kid gloves? Why are you handling him at all? He's not on the show. He's not on the show. You don't need to handle anything.

Kelli (05:40.9)
Exactly. Right.

Stacey's there and she's the one who's filming. So we're all caught up. We're all good.

Wendy (05:47.574)
Right. Right. Exactly. That's how I feel about it.

Kelli (05:53.222)
Right.

Wendy (05:56.436)
So the next thing we see is they're going to do a three-legged race. I mean, honestly, they...

Kelli (06:00.248)
Wait, did we, did they flashback to the Ashley and Sharisa Sun thing prior to that? Or did they do the three-legged race before that? Okay.

Wendy (06:07.764)
It was like in between. We can bring it up now. We can bring it up. Yeah, so Cherise's son is there, Jackson. Who's 27.

Kelli (06:15.908)
Okay, listen, very handsome young man. However, they flash back to a lunch where Ashley tells Charisse that she hooked up with her son.

Wendy (06:28.578)
She said a little smooch.

Kelli (06:30.768)
Yeah, well on Watch What Happens Live, she said more happened and she said it was multiple times. And I can assure you that if any friend of mine 10 years from now tells me that they've hooked up with my son, they are a hoe and they are no longer my friend. Because that's disgusting. I don't care how old Ashley is. mean, Sharice, right? Supposedly she's your good friend, right? And Sharice, I mean...

She's that desperate to be on the show that she's gonna allow this and not have that reaction? How do you not have that reaction?

Wendy (07:06.07)
I was a little surprised about the reaction to be quite honest with you. was surprised. mean, granted... Yes. Right.

Kelli (07:11.022)
know he's a grown man, don't get me wrong. I'm actually not even putting any blame on his part, because he is a grown man. Although I think it's a little weird, and I would hope to God my son would never do that. But I'm sorry, Ashley. There are many, many young men in that area.

Come on. That is ho behavior.

Wendy (07:32.994)
Yeah, no, I agree, I agree. it was, yeah, no, I was surprised. I was very surprised at her reaction.

Kelli (07:44.188)
She's just desperate, that desperate to be on this show. She's just gonna let that slide.

Wendy (07:50.082)
The ladies were all over it as soon as they heard about it though. They're like, wait a second. I mean, as they should be, but Giselle wasn't. I thought that was interesting because Giselle was there. Like Giselle plays the same games.

Kelli (07:53.062)
Absolutely.

Kelli (08:03.506)
100%. 100%. Could you imagine if that were Stacey? Could you imagine if Stacey did that? I mean, she's older than Ashley, but still.

Wendy (08:05.24)
Yeah.

Wendy (08:09.682)
my gosh.

Wendy (08:15.022)
She doesn't look it.

Kelli (08:16.338)
She doesn't look it. No, she does not. Uh-uh. But that would be an end of a friendship for me. For sure.

Wendy (08:27.852)
Yeah, can't, I just seriously can't imagine a friend of mine sleeping with one of my children or even kissing one of my children. Like.

Kelli (08:33.349)
No.

Right. And 28, 35, it doesn't matter.

Wendy (08:41.686)
Yeah, no. No, it's weird.

Kelli (08:43.196)
That's my kid that you knew when he was what, 15 probably? Ew.

Wendy (08:46.369)
Right.

Yeah. Well, she knew him when he was 17, right? Because he's 27 now, and this is the 10th season.

Kelli (08:55.803)
Okay, there you go.

Wendy (08:57.378)
So 17.

Kelli (08:59.12)
And he's a very handsome guy, but he's your friend's son.

Wendy (09:02.636)
Right. Right.

So they're playing their silly games. The first game they're doing is a three-legged race, and Ashley and Jassy win that three-legged race. The next thing, this is when Jackson comes out, like officially, he's gonna be doing the tug of war, and they're doing tug of war, and there's two different teams. Jassy has a team, and Ashley has a team. I honestly, I don't even know which team won, to be honest with you. It was...

Kelli (09:27.556)
I think Ashley's team won, but the other team looked like they were winning for a period of time, but then people started falling. So I think Ashley's team won.

Wendy (09:33.111)
Yeah.

Wendy (09:38.752)
Then I thought it was interesting because Angel is talking to Tia and Giselle walks over there and interrupts the conversation and is like, you know, know you guys have a lot to talk about, but it's game time. I'm like, what?

Kelli (09:49.425)
Yeah. Right. Nevermind the fact that we're filming a show and we're supposed to be seeing scenes like that. And I'd rather see a scene like that than watch you do what, you know, that whole horse thing, you know, right. They were supposed to gallop and Giselle just grabbed hers and ran. And then Stacy was actually doing the galloping and they're like, what is Stacy doing? She's playing the game the way you told her to. That's what she's doing.

Wendy (09:55.958)
Right. Right. Right.

Wendy (10:02.99)
That's what it was, the pink inflatable ponies.

Wendy (10:14.786)
Galloping? Exactly.

Kelli (10:19.174)
She's following rules.

Wendy (10:21.878)
I know, I know. I was like, this is ridiculous. This is ridiculous. And then the other thing, so after that stupid pink pony relay thing, then Giselle is talking to Greg and Kiana and he's asking, know how they're doing. And then they start bringing up the stupid potato salad again.

Kelli (10:24.498)
Crazy.

Kelli (10:45.394)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (10:46.83)
I mean, Stacey even brings it up. Stacey says that she wants to know what Eddie thinks of it. I was like, wait, why are we doing this?

Kelli (10:54.384)
Right. And I'm sorry, Giselle and her confessional saying Greg has never given Kay a ring. Ma'am. Like you like to say, ma'am. You should know because nobody's given you a ring. You got one ring and you're not getting any more. She should just zip it. She should not be giving any advice or commenting on anyone's relationship because out of all the housewives, she cannot keep a man. Ma'am, she can't.

Wendy (11:10.53)
Yeah.

Wendy (11:23.362)
Yeah, that's true. It's true.

Kelli (11:24.742)
How many have we seen her go through?

Wendy (11:27.606)
It's true. It's very true.

Kelli (11:30.322)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (11:33.39)
we find out that Jackson's a model too.

Kelli (11:39.366)
believe it he's very handsome. mean listen it's very clear he's very handsome.

Wendy (11:40.492)
Yeah. Yes. Yes.

Wendy (11:46.381)
Yeah.

So that's pretty much it at that party. And then the next thing we see is Tia's talking to her husband, Rob, and they're talking about with the kids and the chore chart. Listen, I could have done without that to be quite honest with you.

Kelli (12:06.108)
Yeah. Well, when she said that my kids will eat something and throw the wrapper on the floor, I was like, well, that's, that's a little jacked up.

Wendy (12:07.34)
I mean...

Wendy (12:15.214)
I mean, my kids aren't far off of it. They'll just leave it on the table or whatever sitting next to them. It's not like they'll throw it on the floor, but it certainly is not making it to the garbage can.

Kelli (12:25.234)
So in Joe's room, you know, where his PlayStation is, can be a little scary. You know, water bottles everywhere. And yes, like he'll try to get the wrapper or the empty bag of chips in the garbage. Typically doesn't make it. I don't think he's specifically throwing them on the floor, but you know what? He could be. He could be.

Wendy (12:28.078)
Hmm.

Wendy (12:33.581)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (12:41.216)
Right. Right.

Wendy (12:47.278)
Right, know, I said, this is behavior of children, you know, it's, it doesn't surprise me.

Kelli (12:52.496)
Yeah, yeah, but it was just surprising for her to say it though, because she is English and you think like she's so proper and she's probably strict, but you know, she's obviously going through the same struggles as the rest of us.

Wendy (13:06.008)
But she said she's never done chores. Like she had people doing them. So she never did them herself. know? I thought it was funny. Yeah. I thought it was funny when she said, well, who's kissing the mirror? And Nathaniel's like, well, I used to. She said, well, someone is still doing it. I'm like, wait a second. Why is he kissing the mirror?

Kelli (13:09.867)
well that's true. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. She just doesn't have the staff.

Kelli (13:29.234)
Is he practicing?

Wendy (13:31.31)
I don't know. That's a good idea. Maybe that's it. Maybe he is practicing. Oh my God. And then I love how he said, can I get credit for the things I did do today? Like, let's talk about what I did do. Yeah, he really is. He really is.

Kelli (13:34.534)
He's probably practicing. He's at that age, you know?

Kelli (13:44.178)
This kid, he might be the breakout star of Real Housewives of Potomac this season. He is adorable.

Wendy (13:54.701)
Kelli (13:55.077)
It was interesting to hear her talk about her half sister. So it sounds to me like her father had a whole other family in Nigeria, right? But still while married to her mother.

Wendy (14:06.092)
Yes, that's what it sounds like, yeah.

Wendy (14:12.987)
That's hard to tell, I don't know.

Kelli (14:14.7)
I know, but she said my mother wasn't interested in being a sister wife. So at some point he must have had these children and then told Tia's mother.

Wendy (14:19.777)
Right.

Kelli (14:28.37)
Because it's not just the one, it's not just Amira, it's not just the half sister.

Wendy (14:28.962)
Yeah.

Right, there's a half brother also. And by the way, Amir is beautiful. And she looks like, like I could see that they're sisters, like they look alike. You know, I could see the resemblance, like her father must have the strong genes there.

Kelli (14:34.833)
Yeah.

She is.

Kelli (14:42.416)
Yeah. Yeah. For sure. But I think that it's nice that, you know, she now has a relationship with her, but I also understand her not back then out of loyalty to her mother. Cause I would probably be the same way.

Wendy (14:47.649)
Yeah.

Wendy (14:59.692)
Yes, absolutely. Yeah, I would too. I mean...

Then we see Stacey and Timo are working out. Now they were working out in their house. Is that where their gym was in? Right. Yeah.

Kelli (15:14.512)
Yeah, she has a gym in her house, I remember that. This actually seemed like a genuine scene with them. Did you think so?

Wendy (15:25.046)
Well, I mean, thought her working out was completely half-assed. so I don't know how real it was. I do think that she wants to be present with him and participate in things that he does. And I think that that is part of his routine.

Kelli (15:29.308)
Well, that's for sure.

Kelli (15:41.274)
Right. But he seemed more comfortable on camera with just her. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (15:46.444)
He did. He did. I agree with that. I do agree with that. And he said that he's moved back in. So that's step in the right direction. I think from, it appears by the conversation that they were having that they're back together. mean, if he's not living in the other place anymore and he's moving back in, mean, with their daughter and she's happy, I don't, and they're.

Kelli (16:12.763)
Yeah.

Wendy (16:13.784)
their goal for both of them, which I did think was a little bit, you know, the most important thing they said is to see Arabella happy, but that's not the most important thing. Like, you guys need to be happy. Right. Right.

Kelli (16:23.644)
Well, it's not a good reason to get back together, right? It's not a good reason to get back together. You gotta want it for yourself. Otherwise, you're just gonna wind up breaking up again.

Wendy (16:31.832)
Yeah.

Right. Exactly. Then we see angels at her house and her husband Bobby's running around with the kids and the baby. And she said that they had to put a few things in storage before they go back to Colorado because, you know, they just didn't find the house yet and they don't want to move all the stuff back to Colorado because they eventually want to get a house there.

Angel's telling Bobby that she feels stressed about the whole, she invited the ladies to come visit Wanderland, which is their business. It's a luxurious guided hiking, fly fishing, horseback riding, like a big tour company that she runs, her husband run there.

Kelli (17:21.532)
I feel like we're using the word luxurious a little loosely. Well, hiking, fly fishing, how do you make that luxurious? I mean, listen, if you're into that stuff, you're into that stuff, but is it luxurious? I luxurious, I feel like is like massage, like walking around in a big fluffy robe.

Wendy (17:25.452)
You do?

Wendy (17:32.246)
I mean...

Wendy (17:39.086)
Hmm.

Wendy (17:44.502)
Yeah, I think it's so funny.

I think all of those things could be all happening at the same Colorado place.

Kelli (17:52.994)
maybe you're right. Maybe you're right.

Wendy (17:55.34)
Right? Like I think it's not, I don't think it's just like an old log cabin kind of thing. I think it's like a luxurious resort that has all these amenities. That's what I'm assuming. I don't know though, but we will find out next week because that's where they're going. That's where they're going. And she said that she wants to do something really nice for the ladies. have no idea why, but Bobby suggests a big cookout. I I wouldn't want to do anything for these ladies. I wouldn't want.

Kelli (18:05.916)
Okay.

Yeah, we're gonna find out. Yeah.

Kelli (18:20.722)
I

Kelli (18:24.538)
now.

Wendy (18:25.035)
Anything.

Kelli (18:27.41)
But I like that he is like for his wife like, well, we'll do a big cookout. Well, yeah, like I'll do all the cooking. Like, I don't know, he just seems like a very supportive husband. listen, Angel, I'm sorry to tell you, but that's another notch against you because Giselle and Ashley don't have that and never have had that. So they're jealous. So they're gonna come at you even harder. I'm sorry. You're just too happy in your marriage for them to like you.

Wendy (18:31.074)
He's trying. Mm-hmm.

Wendy (18:38.156)
He does.

Wendy (18:49.09)
Yes. Yes.

Wendy (18:54.626)
Mm-hmm, exactly. So true, so true. So then we see the next, we're at Wendy's house and we're looking at all of her renovations and her appliances and her cabinets and it is gorgeous. It is gorgeous. I was surprised that it was only a two month process to be quite honest with you. I mean, how long did it take to do your kitchen? I know yours was during COVID, but how long did yours take?

Kelli (19:09.766)
Her kitchen is gorgeous.

Kelli (19:24.88)
November, December, January, three months. Three months. And I wasn't spending the kind of money she was spending. So she, you you got that kind of money to throw around. They're gonna, they're gonna finish it up quick. And yeah, November, December, January. Yeah. It was pretty quick. I mean, it's not a big kitchen, obviously. But yeah, the guy, our contractor, he was good and he had a good team. So.

Wendy (19:32.311)
Yeah.

Wendy (19:42.679)
Okay, so.

Wendy (19:46.485)
I know, know, yeah.

Kelli (19:54.535)
We had no, you know, knock on wood, we had no issues, no hiccups.

Wendy (19:58.978)
That's good, that's good. Well, she said it was a two month process and now that it's done, she's redone the entire first floor. wasn't just the kitchen. I mean, the floor looked beautiful too. That carpet was janky anyway. As soon as I saw that carpet, I was like, this is janky. So the next project is either gonna be, they're gonna redo the basement, they're gonna finish this basement or get a pool. And Wendy's like, well, I say pool. And then he's like, well, I would vote pool too if I have a vote. Well, why, why don't you have a vote?

Kelli (20:06.396)
Yeah.

Kelli (20:27.014)
Well, Eddie, I don't think you're doing anything, honey, because I think that you guys might not be living in that house. Exactly. You might be going to camp, sir. But let's let's hope for the best. This is all alleged.

Wendy (20:33.262)
You might be going to jail. You might be going to jail.

Wendy (20:41.314)
Yeah.

Wendy (20:46.7)
Yeah. So Wendy brings up about her dad again and she's telling Eddie that, you know, she just wants to do it. She just wants to call her dad. So she does it. She calls her dad and she's talking to him. And, you know, he answers right away. I mean, it seems that he does. And he's like, you know, yes, my daughter, you know, he seemed like he was happy to speaking to her. The conversation to me seemed like it was going well. He said like, you know, we don't need to cry over spilled milk. I, you know, I don't want to.

hash up the past, but I miss my daughter and you know, and then she asked about FaceTiming and he said yes. I was surprised, I was surprised to be honest with you. Absolutely he did, yeah, he did. I was surprised that he said yes. But you could see his face like lit up when he saw her. And

Kelli (21:25.394)
Well, he had to sign a release for that,

Kelli (21:33.703)
Yeah.

Kelli (21:38.416)
Yeah, I mean at first I felt like he was giving her like one word answers, but then he warmed up, but that's must be totally normal. You know, I've never been on TV, but I would imagine that's totally normal.

Wendy (21:46.894)
Right.

Wendy (21:51.244)
Yeah. And then he wants to see Eddie too. He's like, I want to see Eddie, you know, obviously he knows Eddie, they, you know, been together for a long time. So, you know, Eddie comes over. He, he's very respectful, even with her mom. He is so respectful.

Kelli (21:59.185)
Yeah, I know and Eddie was so respectful and he was like, how are doing, sir?

I know.

Kelli (22:09.884)
Holy cow, he was extremely restrained and respectful to that woman.

Wendy (22:12.813)
Yeah.

Wendy (22:16.373)
Yes. Yes.

Kelli (22:19.75)
You know, I realized I was enjoying this episode so much at this point in the show and it was because I, other than the very beginning, we really hadn't seen much of Giselle.

Wendy (22:29.518)
Well, even this other little interaction with Ashley from the Brain Tumor Society was just a staged interaction. that was absolutely nothing. That was nothing. Yep. Yep.

Kelli (22:39.036)
For sure, for sure. Totally unnecessary. Because they have nothing going on, the two of them. Did you watch Watch What Happens Live with Ashley?

Wendy (22:47.938)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (22:51.286)
I did not.

Kelli (22:52.87)
She's back with Josh, she said. You were never not with Josh. yeah, she said that on Watch What Happens Live. Well, you had sent me the thing saying the same thing, but she actually said it on Watch What Happens Live.

Wendy (22:56.492)
Is she?

Wendy (23:02.636)
Okay.

Wendy (23:06.039)
She was on after this episode? okay. I didn't see it. Yeah, I definitely will.

Kelli (23:10.498)
You should watch it. It was good. Who she was. She's with one of the married to medicine wives. I'm not familiar with that show though. Dr. Simone Mimi? I forget.

Wendy (23:16.161)
Okay.

Wendy (23:20.824)
Could be.

Yeah, so she didn't have much on this episode either, Ashley. The next thing we see is Kiana's moving back into Greg's house, and this is her second time moving back in. But this time he's actually moving the boxes. Last time she had to move the boxes herself. I'm like, okay.

Kelli (23:37.873)
Yeah.

Kelli (23:45.17)
I mean, he really is the gift that keeps on giving, isn't he? We all need a Greg. Not after this scene, man. This was cold, I thought.

Wendy (23:52.84)
No. No we don't.

No. I mean, he's like, I have something for you. And he gives her this like brown moving box. And I'm like, a moving box? And then she takes out these beautiful red roses randomly thrown in the box. And then the Radcliffe jeweler's bag, which we know he was at. Right, right. With her mother and Angel. And she pulls out a picture frame? Are you kidding me?

Kelli (24:13.104)
Yeah, bag from the jewelers he was at.

Kelli (24:19.922)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (24:23.89)
That was really cold. I mean, that's like humiliating almost.

Wendy (24:30.615)
It really was.

Kelli (24:30.78)
Right? Like, I mean, I understand if this man does not want to propose on camera. I understand. Cause I think that that's a private moment and some people choose to do it and that's great, but I respect the people who choose not to do it. but don't give her a picture frame from the jeweler that she thinks you got your ring, her ring from. You know.

Wendy (24:48.406)
A picture frame?

Wendy (24:53.836)
Right.

Who buys a picture frame in a jeweler's?

Kelli (24:58.682)
I don't know!

Wendy (25:00.322)
I mean, I've never even seen a jeweler that sells picture frames.

Kelli (25:03.174)
Me neither. So what did he just get the bag and get the frame from somewhere else?

Wendy (25:04.846)
I don't know.

No! I don't know.

Kelli (25:10.416)
Yeah, like that was pretty wild.

Wendy (25:13.1)
It really was, it was. But then she said that, you know, she kind of pivots and, you know, she said, you know, we're okay on the way things are going with the condo. Like you're gonna gift it to me, but it's still gonna be in my name. It's still gonna be mine. So he's gonna pay for the condo that she's living in now that she's moving out of. It's still gonna be in her name. And she said, and I know this house that we're living in is, you know, is yours. Like it's in your name. She goes, but if.

you know, when we get married, will we change that and will I be on the deed? I thought to myself, this is when you're having this conversation?

Kelli (25:48.827)
I would not have done that on camera. mean, what did you think was gonna happen? What did you think? This is why he got pissed off last season, because you kept trying to have these conversations with him on camera. Don't talk about finances like that. You're not Heather DeBrow. Please, please don't do it. That's a private matter. He should not have to answer those questions on camera.

Wendy (26:05.632)
Yeah.

Wendy (26:09.75)
I I thought to myself, this isn't going to go well for you.

Kelli (26:17.165)
Not at all. Not at all.

Wendy (26:18.742)
And he's like, well, I don't really think that that's even necessary. goes, I don't plan to live here forever. And I was like, that was a good answer. At least he had a good answer.

Kelli (26:25.351)
Right.

Yeah.

But here's the thing, did he buy the house? Is he paying for the house? Then it's his house.

Wendy (26:36.832)
Right, right, and he's, just, you just said he just gifted you your condo that's in your name, right.

Kelli (26:41.722)
A condo. Right. These women, Right? Like, are you looking for a husband or a checkbook?

Wendy (26:47.063)
I know.

Wendy (26:54.616)
Yeah.

Kelli (26:55.974)
I mean, she's a successful business owner.

Wendy (26:59.692)
I know, I don't understand it. I really don't. I think that there's more to this than we know.

Kelli (27:01.562)
Yeah, like.

Yeah, yeah. mean, I guess it's like, like it's just the, what's the word I'm talking, I'm looking for it, like the principle of it. know, like if you get married, I want my name on the house. Like, you know, I don't know. I don't always agree with that though, personally. But you know, Eric and I did things very traditionally. We bought a house together, we got married and that, you know, we did, we just did things more traditionally. So what do I know?

Wendy (27:21.324)
Right, right. He had this house.

Wendy (27:33.89)
Yeah, we did the same thing. We did the same thing, you know, whatever. But I certainly would have never had a conversation.

Kelli (27:36.304)
Yeah. Yeah.

My suggestion to everybody... Wha-

Wendy (27:44.844)
I would never have a conversation like that on camera.

Kelli (27:48.891)
Never, never. But in all honesty, my suggestion to everyone now is don't get married because there are way more benefits for you to get from your state if you're not married. Don't do it, seriously. Have your babies, buy your homes, don't get married.

Wendy (27:50.341)
It's just crazy.

Kelli (28:10.386)
Have a religious ceremony, throw a big party, do not apply for a marriage license in your state.

Kelli (28:19.174)
That's just my PSA.

Wendy (28:19.714)
Yeah, yeah, I mean, that's how some people do it. Yeah, yeah. Then we get to meet Tia's sister and we find out that she lives in Abuja, which is the capital of Nigeria. And also we find out that Tia was 12 when she learned about her sister.

Kelli (28:24.206)
Exactly. So why shouldn't everybody?

Kelli (28:48.124)
She doesn't say how old she was, right? How old the sister was.

Wendy (28:51.182)
How old her sister was? No, didn't. mean, her sister does look a lot younger than her. And she did say that apparently she met her when she was a baby because she came home and her mom said, I saw a new baby today, but she didn't realize that that was her sister that she was referring to, which I think is interesting.

Kelli (29:16.55)
Yeah, yeah. And really, I mean, it doesn't sound like Tia had any plans on having a relationship with them until their father passed and they had to bury him as a family.

Wendy (29:18.594)
I think it's interesting.

Wendy (29:31.702)
Right, and Amira says that Tia called her and Tia said to her, you are loved. And Tia's like, I don't remember saying that. And Amira was crying and Tia was crying. So it's definitely something that happened.

Kelli (29:51.622)
Yeah, yeah.

She did not let the half siblings come to her wedding though. But honestly, I think that that would have been very difficult for her mother. And I'm glad that they have the relationship they have now, but I don't blame her for that. If that's gonna make your mom uncomfortable, that's your day and that's your mom. So I agree with that.

Wendy (29:55.234)
So.

Wendy (29:59.596)
If her mother was there...

Wendy (30:07.916)
Right. Right, it was her day.

Wendy (30:14.967)
Right.

Wendy (30:18.614)
I do too. I do too. No, I agree with that too. think like she said it was her day. Why does, you know, this isn't the time and place to have this, you know, family reunion. Right.

Kelli (30:19.28)
Her not having them there, I mean. You know. Yeah.

Kelli (30:30.322)
Awkwardness. Awkwardness. I mean, quite honestly, my wedding was a bit awkward because my parents, know, my father left when Eric and I started dating and Eric and I got married a couple of years later and my mom had just started dating, her now husband, and they've been together over 20 years. But she brought him to the wedding, which was no problem at all. But, you know, there were a lot of family friends there.

Like a lot of couples that my parents were friends with who we grew up with, you know. And they were all like asking me about it at the wedding. Like this one guy, and may he rest in peace, he's passed away now, but he like cornered me and was like, what do you think of your mom's boyfriend? And I was like, what? Like it was right after we did the cake and Eric had really smashed me with the cake. And then Alex ran up and really smushed it in.

So I had cake all over my face. I just wanted to go to the bathroom and wipe my face off. And he cornered me and he was asking me all about my mom's boyfriend. I'm like...

She seems like a nice guy. Bro, I'm paying a lot of money for this wedding. Time is ticking away. I want to go wipe my face and go back and dance. So it wasn't super awkward, but there were a couple of, just cause my mom brought her new boyfriend, who she's now been married to for years.

Wendy (31:56.31)
Yeah, you know, Tia does say she now understands as an adult that her father just wanted the family to be together, which of course you could want that, but you're the one who separated the family, so you don't always get what you want.

Kelli (32:03.826)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (32:10.06)
You can't force it like this is her wedding day. You can't force a sibling on her that she's not close with

Wendy (32:11.894)
Right. Right.

Wendy (32:17.078)
Right. I totally agree. So the next thing we see is we're at the Osefo's house and Wendy's mom and sister roll up. Well, she invited them. They didn't just roll up. This was hard to watch. It was hard to watch.

Kelli (32:33.81)
This is really hard to watch. Yeah, I agree. 100%.

Wendy (32:37.612)
I mean, it starts out okay. Her mom says that she loves it. You know, she loves the kitchen. She's pointing out the black toilet paper, which by the way, I've never seen black toilet paper either.

Kelli (32:50.254)
I haven't either and quite honestly, would have asked Susan, right? Is her name the mother? I would have asked the same question. Like, is this gonna, you

Wendy (32:57.058)
Yeah, I maybe.

Wendy (33:01.336)
Give me a UTI.

Kelli (33:02.822)
Yeah, yeah. It's a very sensitive area down there. You don't know what can set it off.

Wendy (33:09.934)
Do we need all these unnecessary dies?

Kelli (33:13.136)
Yeah, exactly. What material is this made of?

Wendy (33:17.742)
I thought it was funny though.

Kelli (33:19.152)
Yeah, did you notice that, did you notice that her mother said, is that plate for me? When Wendy was making herself a plate. And then Wendy was like, this plate can be for you. And she was like, I want a plate to go. And Wendy was like, okay, you want a plate to go. Like, but then you see her standing there eating off of a plate. So did she want a plate to go for later and she wanted to eat here now?

Wendy (33:32.546)
I did notice that.

Wendy (33:43.946)
I don't know, but I did notice she said, want a plate, because Wendy said, can get, you know, I can make you a plate. And she said, I want a plate to go. And I'm like, why does she want a plate to go? And then she continued to stand there and eat. I thought that whole interaction was weird.

Kelli (33:54.716)
Right.

She is just a hard nut to crack. God bless Wendy and her sister, but her sister seems to fall in line.

Wendy (34:04.023)
Yeah.

Wendy (34:07.714)
And then her mom says, must have cost you a whole arm and a whole leg. And Wendy's like, what, eating the food? She's like, well, yeah, eating out and the renovation. And Wendy said, well, you know, it was pricey, but it's worth it. And then her mom's like, well, I told you not to buy a new house. Okay. Wendy's like, okay, well, thank you for that advice. I guess, I don't know if that was an option. She was gonna renovate her kitchen or buy a new house. I don't know.

Kelli (34:35.6)
I, yeah, that must've been it. Maybe they were looking to upgrade and maybe her mother was like, why don't you just make this house? I mean, it's a beautiful house. It was beautiful before she did that, but you know, it's just wild to know now what we know and to hear her talking about how much it costs and to know that they're accused of what? Like 500 grand in insurance scams. And the, she said the kitchen was like a 400.

Wendy (34:44.022)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (34:51.736)
Yeah.

Kelli (35:02.168)
Or maybe the whole first floor was a $400,000 renovation. Maybe the other 100 grand went to upgrade her ring for their anniversary.

Wendy (35:11.182)
There you go. There you go.

I mean, I'll be honest with you. The more I think about this interaction with her mom and her sister about her father, she had to know how her mom was going to react.

Kelli (35:28.124)
Yeah.

Wendy (35:30.146)
Like, did she-

Kelli (35:30.578)
I mean, we learned that her mom had to work four, her father left. Basically he was a deadbeat dad and her mom had to work four jobs to put she and her sister through school. So her mother is fully entitled to feel the way she feels about this guy. And so is her sister. I just don't think it's necessarily fair for them to try to prevent Wendy from having a relationship with him. Maybe she needs this and they don't.

Wendy (35:35.565)
Right.

Mm-hmm.

Kelli (36:00.995)
Like Ashley said that on Watch What Happens Live. She said, you know, I had a similar situation. Her father left and she, you know, even on the show wanted to meet him, tried to see him. And she said the whole time, my mother was very supportive of that. So she did have a similar situation, but her mother, you know, was like, okay, if this is what you need to do, this is what you need to do.

Wendy (36:07.874)
Right.

She tried to see him and he wouldn't.

Wendy (36:30.518)
Yeah, I mean, my thought about it was, because I started thinking about it afterwards, my first initial reaction was like, her mother is a monster and her sister is too. But then I started to really think about it. You know, the last time she had that conversation with her mom, she knew how upset her mom was about it. So she had to know that this wasn't going to go well.

Kelli (36:50.866)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (36:54.844)
Maybe she hoped that since they were on camera, maybe it was a better time to do it because they wouldn't have reacted the way they reacted. And I think her sister just feeds off of the mother. And I don't think her mother cares how she looks on camera. It's quite obvious. Susan does not give an F about how she comes across to the public. And I guess what really set her off was Wendy pointing at her.

Wendy (37:06.887)
yes.

Wendy (37:12.408)
Yeah.

Wendy (37:18.243)
Yeah.

Kelli (37:23.962)
I don't even think she was pointing at her. I think she was pointing at her kids saying, I want them to leave. I want them to go upstairs because she saw her mom getting heated. And it's totally understandable. Like some people fight in front of their kids, some people don't. That's her children. You have to respect her choice to ask them to leave the room.

Wendy (37:34.678)
Mm-hmm. And that's when it happened.

Wendy (37:45.718)
Right, right. And she was just asking her mom just to hold off until I can get these kids out of here. I don't want them hearing this. You can say what you want to say, but just, and she wasn't holding off. And that's when she did, I think she did point at her, cause I wrote down that she pointed at her. And that is definitely what set her off.

Kelli (38:04.438)
yeah, yeah, she said don't disrespect me. You could talk to your kids like that. I mean, it got, you know, it got a little out of control.

Wendy (38:07.469)
Yeah.

Wendy (38:16.948)
It did. It did. I mean, and then poor Eddie, like...

Kelli (38:21.19)
Yeah.

Wendy (38:22.414)
That was tough, you know, and he was so respectful. So respectful.

Kelli (38:26.93)
He was. Now, I will say this. Susan starts crying and Wendy goes, you're doing too much.

Wendy (38:36.523)
Yes.

Kelli (38:38.32)
So that could have been a trigger too.

I-I just-

Wendy (38:44.95)
Yeah, but I think she knows her mother. I think she knows her mother. You know, but, and that's my point is she knows her mother. Yeah, she knows her mother, which is why she should have never had this conversation on camera because she knows her mother.

Kelli (38:48.794)
Yeah. Yeah. Maybe she was doing too much.

Kelli (39:00.838)
Yeah, yeah. And thank God Eddie was there. I mean, he does try to calm it down and says, take a beat. then, know, Wendy starts to cry and her mom tells her to shut the F up. that got, that got ugly real quick.

Wendy (39:05.335)
Yeah.

Wendy (39:11.191)
Yeah.

Wendy (39:21.878)
And even her sister jumped in. I mean, even her sister jumped in and started yelling at her.

Kelli (39:27.218)
I her sister was holding off a bit and then her sister heard her say to Eddie, I want to tell them to get the F out of my house. And her sister was like, what did you just say? And then her sister got up and was like, okay.

You know, it's very unfortunate that that turned out the way it did, but they shouldn't try to prevent her from having a relationship with her father if that's truly what she wants to do. But she also has to respect the way that they feel. Her mom does have every right to feel that way about that man. He left her with two kids and didn't contribute, never looked back. Right. But her mom got, her mom popped off a little

Wendy (40:00.11)
definitely. Yeah. Never looked back, she said. Never looked back.

Kelli (40:13.402)
a little bit too much. But she clearly does not care how she looks on camera.

Wendy (40:15.512)
Yeah.

No, she doesn't. She does not.

Kelli (40:23.61)
I wish they had Wendy on Watch What Happens Live last night, but I wonder if she probably can't go on Watch What Happens Live right now with what's going on.

Wendy (40:23.681)
And even once

Wendy (40:31.234)
I would think not. I was surprised she even went to BravoCon, but I would think not. I want her to have us live. I mean, she was just in court this past week. So I doubt it. Even after her mom left, Eddie said to her, you know, are you okay? And she said, yeah, I'm used to it. Like that's telling also, you know?

Kelli (40:36.699)
I know.

Kelli (40:41.137)
Yeah.

Kelli (40:51.046)
Yes. Yes.

Wendy (40:52.544)
It's like, mean, I don't know. don't wanna blame Wendy, but I feel like she should have known that this is something that could happen with her mother when she brings up her father.

Kelli (41:05.638)
I know. I know.

Wendy (41:09.102)
So I don't know. I saw...

Kelli (41:11.322)
I hope next week doesn't pick up where this ended. I don't wanna see any more of this, you know what I mean? I don't wanna see any more of this. Let's just open the next episode with something else.

Wendy (41:15.058)
gosh. Yeah. I don't think we, I, yeah. I was gonna say, I don't think we do because I think, they're going to Colorado. Yeah. They're going to go to Colorado. I think we're, I think at this portion of it, think we should be done with. yeah. I don't know if I posted it or I sent it to you, but the snark side, Bravo Snark side. Did you see that they posted, the cast?

Kelli (41:25.272)
they left.

Kelli (41:32.54)
We're safe.

Wendy (41:43.64)
for the road trip.

Kelli (41:46.255)
I think you did send it and I just didn't have time to chance to look at it. who's on it?

Wendy (41:52.249)
I'm looking it up right now. Well, Vicky was on it.

Wendy (42:04.546)
Narcotics.

Here it is.

Wendy (42:15.704)
She was on Ryan Bailey today too, so I was listening to her.

Kelli (42:23.207)
Vicky?

Wendy (42:23.459)
I don't know, no, the girl who runs Bravo Snarkside.

Kelli (42:28.74)
Wendy (42:33.185)
gosh, Mercedes and Tommy divorce. That's getting messy. Have you heard that at all?

Kelli (42:38.162)
Yeah, you know, by the way, I really have, I really don't like Gigi. I would like to watch the Valley Persian style or whatever it's called. I just don't like her. I'll try it though. I mean, I love Reza and I like MJ and I guess there's some new people. Mike's not on it, right? He can't possibly be on it. Yeah. But Gigi, just, I really don't like her. I feel like she's so trashy, Gigi.

Wendy (42:45.465)
no, I don't like Gigi either.

Wendy (42:59.86)
No, no, no, no.

Kelli (43:08.176)
I find her very trashy.

Wendy (43:08.662)
I don't like Gigi either.

Kelli (43:13.5)
She fat shamed somebody. Who'd she fat shame? Kristen Doady after she had her baby?

Wendy (43:15.97)
Well, she actually was on Jeff Lewis with MJ last week. And she explained the whole situation. She didn't do it on purpose. She actually thought when she saw the picture that she was announcing a pregnancy. And she made some comment like, congratulations, or is this an announcement or something? She genuinely thought that. She didn't, she wasn't commenting on her body. And then,

Then Kristen Doty went off on her on social media because it was Britney. So she called up. Yeah, so it was Britney. So Kristen Doty went off on her and she apologized to Britney. She had a conversation with Britney when they were at BravoCon. Britney.

Kelli (43:53.463)
that's right. That's right.

Wendy (44:06.178)
She talked to Brittany and, you know, her and Brittany were okay and she tried to talk to Kristen, but Kristen would not have it. She wouldn't look at her and that's who Kristen is. And she understands, like, she understands she was having her friends back. She's like, but...

Kelli (44:14.694)
sure for sure and she hooked up with Jack's back wait like before Brittany but they had sex like they both admit to it so they they probably did really think that she was like being shady about Brittany you know just because of that too yeah

Wendy (44:29.646)
Yeah, but she wasn't. She's like, I, you know, wouldn't, I don't, really, when she explained it, I was like, you know what? I believe that because I just think that she's just kind of oblivious to that kind of stuff. I don't think that she, you know, I don't think she was being, so I'm on snark side and I cannot find it. Well, I'll have to get it for the next one, but it was, it was, there was like seven people. was like Karen Huger, Kyle Richards, Vickney.

Kelli (44:40.41)
Right. Right.

Kelli (44:55.074)
yeah, Karen, because I remember cousin Gina was like, here we go. Bravo rewarding bad behavior, which she's 100 % right.

Wendy (45:05.294)
Maybe that's where I put it in that chat.

Wendy (45:11.308)
I don't know, I think it's gonna be good and supposedly they start filming in the end of January. And there's...

Kelli (45:17.224)
yeah, listen, I'll watch any Ultimate Girls trip. I think they're fantastic.

Wendy (45:21.87)
I do too. like to see when we get the OGs back, you know?

Kelli (45:28.858)
I think that they should do another New York legacy one. With the same people. Bring the same people back. Don't add anybody. like, know, Dorinda, Lou, Sonia.

Wendy (45:35.735)
Yeah.

Kelli (45:45.34)
What, the teakman chick? Like same people.

Wendy (45:46.851)
here it is.

Okay, so was Bravos and Cocktails that posted it. so it's Mary Cosby, Giselle, Luann, Nini Leakes, Teresa, Vicky Gumbelson, Kim Zolciak.

Kelli (46:00.687)
damn it.

Kelli (46:06.028)
god. I don't know if I can watch this.

Wendy (46:07.64)
Karen Huger.

and

Is this Meredith Marx? Please don't tell me this is Meredith.

Kelli (46:19.59)
I don't think I could watch it if Teresa's on it for crying out loud.

Wendy (46:19.799)
I think it's Meredith.

Wendy (46:24.046)
Theresa's on it.

Kelli (46:25.733)
I can't, I don't-

I can't do it.

Wendy (46:30.26)
I- come on, Mary Cosby and NeNe Leakes?

Kelli (46:33.372)
can't believe Mary's on it.

Wendy (46:36.406)
Yeah. And NeNe? I'm here for it. I'm here for NeNe coming back.

Kelli (46:40.472)
I know, I know, I'm here for NeNe coming back. I think it's great that she's working for Bravo again because, you know, they did her so dirty. They did NeNe so dirty.

Wendy (46:49.314)
Yes, that. Yeah.

So it was Bravo and Cocktails that posted it. I'm actually looking forward to this. Kim Zolciak and Luann.

I don't know. I know you don't like Kim Zolciak either. I find her intriguing. I know. just, I find her intriguing.

Kelli (47:10.406)
I'm not a fan. Yeah. But I'll watch her. Like I stopped watching Tardy for the Party at some point, but I'll watch her on something way before I'd watch Teresa. I'm gonna really struggle with this. Is it like a Survivor show? Can somebody get kicked off where she might get kicked off first? Because that might soften it up for me.

Wendy (47:27.352)
I don't think anybody gets kicked off. I think what they're doing is they're going across the country and they're going to different parties in different cities with other housewives. So they're going to be interacting with other housewives throughout their journey.

Kelli (47:42.663)
Well,

Wendy (47:45.772)
I don't know, I'm here for it though. What'd do?

Kelli (47:47.343)
I did.

Wendy (47:52.184)
Did you do something?

Kelli (47:54.225)
I did. I hit my, my, my earbud and it went to so I couldn't hear you and I was talking to Siri. I'm all better now. And I probably couldn't do it again if I tried. But I mean, it's interesting. I mean, it's a great premise. I'll definitely watch it, but I'm going to have a hard time with her on it. Damn it. Whatever. I don't know if this is true.

Wendy (47:59.479)
ear thing.

Wendy (48:04.286)
okay.

Kelli (48:23.282)
again with the stupid AI, but I did see something right before we logged on that Maurizio bought the spelling manner for $110 million. That can't possibly be true, can it?

Wendy (48:40.226)
I don't think so. I don't think it's for sale. Candy's not selling that. Candy's not selling that. Yeah, I don't think so.

Kelli (48:43.142)
I don't think it is either. She's not going anywhere. Tori is just waiting for that poor woman to pass so she can finally get some money. She better be careful though. That woman probably is giving all her money to her dog or something like that. That woman does not want her children to get her husband's money. It's wild. I don't either. How much money does one person need?

Wendy (48:52.739)
Yeah.

Wendy (49:04.93)
get it. I don't get it.

Wendy (49:10.936)
She's another one who wanted to be on Beverly Hills Housewife and Andy wouldn't put Tori on. I think she would be a great housewife.

I mean, now that she's divorced and she does have six kids.

Kelli (49:21.52)
I don't.

Kelli (49:25.72)
I don't think she'd be a very good housewife.

Wendy (49:28.764)
You don't think she'd be entertaining?

Kelli (49:30.798)
I mean, she'd be entertaining. Didn't she have a reality TV show though?

Wendy (49:35.746)
Her and Dean, had her husband, what was it called? I don't know, but I watched it. I can't remember what it was called.

Kelli (49:43.474)
feel like I watched it when it first came out too.

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I feel like she's a little too young to fit in with the current housewives, but maybe if they came up with something else for like her, like Paris Hilton, like I feel like she's more in that age group, right?

Wendy (50:03.919)
I don't think so. I don't think she's that young.

Kelli (50:06.45)
No? Yeah, I don't know why I picture it. Probably because I, you know, loved Beverly Hills. I just rewatched Beverly Hills 910. And I just picture her so young, but. I don't know. Did you hear the whole thing about Dolores? On 2Ts, I guess they were talking about Meredith Marks. I don't know. I don't know. Like, I only read bits and pieces, but.

Wendy (50:08.814)
I don't think so.

Wendy (50:20.152)
How old is Tori Spelling?

Wendy (50:25.335)
No.

Kelli (50:33.232)
I guess they were talking about how Meredith Marks took the phone call from Brooks on the plane and Dolores was defending it and said something like, when little Frankie calls her, she wants to just make out with the phone and like shove it down her throat, because I guess she's so happy that her son, it was like something wild like that that she said. And people are like, what the fuck? But I just laughed because listen, she's an Italian North Jersey mother.

Wendy (50:52.199)
my gosh.

Kelli (51:02.204)
Their sons, the sun rises and sets on their sons asses. Like their sons can do no wrong. They're just, that's who they live for their boys.

So I think that it could come across like a little odd what she said, but it's just, you know, yeah, it's just like a funny.

Wendy (51:22.604)
Yes, yes, yes, I understand what you're saying. But I don't think Meredith Marks is that way, by the way.

Kelli (51:30.386)
Not at all. think Dolores just said this in defense of Meredith picking up that phone call. I don't think Meredith is that way with Brooks either. But I do 100 % believe that Dolores is.

Wendy (51:37.208)
Yeah.

Wendy (51:40.832)
No. And by the way, Tori Spelling.

is 52.

Kelli (51:47.762)
my god, she's older than me!

Wendy (51:49.236)
Yes!

Kelli (51:52.134)
She was parasitical and sage.

Holy cow. So then she could fit in with the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, right? I mean, maybe they're a little bit older, but.

Dorit's probably not, Rachel Zoe probably isn't. They're probably in that.

Wendy (52:10.722)
Yeah, no, I think she...

Yeah, mean, what's her name is? What's her name is 40 that just came on? The new girl.

Kelli (52:18.287)
right, the new girl.

Wendy (52:20.098)
Why can't I think of her name? I just blanked. That's it, because I don't like her and I'm not going to remember. Yeah, that's it. I'm not going to remember her name. Yeah, she's 52.

Kelli (52:22.062)
Amanda. Amanda? Right. I can't believe she's 52!

Kelli (52:33.33)
Wow.

Wendy (52:33.847)
Yeah.

Wendy (52:37.344)
So this is it for this year probably, to be honest with you. Well, the next episode, the next Housewives episode doesn't come out until the 30th and then we will not probably be recording on New Year's Eve. So you probably won't get a new episode from us until next year. Unless we recycle an episode or we come up with something else in our spare time. But we are hosting.

Kelli (52:37.628)
Yeah.

Kelli (52:56.743)
Yep.

Wendy (53:05.006)
and there's Christmas and Christmas Eve and New Year's and New Year's Eve. So maybe not, but we want to wish you all a very Merry Christmas, a Happy New Year, and whatever else you celebrate. That's right. Yes. And we'll see you guys next year in 2026. Bye.

Kelli (53:10.352)
Right. We'll see.

Kelli (53:18.296)
and all the holidays you celebrate. Have a wonderful, wonderful holiday.

Kelli (53:28.038)
Bye.