RHOBH-From Speed Dating to Financial Reality

RHOBH-From Speed Dating to Financial Reality

RHOBH S15 E3 – “A Match Made in Beverly Hills” Podcast Summary

This episode kicks off with Boz hosting a Beverly Hills–style speed dating event, complete with her assistant Nico and a carefully curated roster of bachelors ranging from lawyers and entrepreneurs to artists and an Australian motivational speaker. The ladies aim for “understated,” but naturally arrive head-to-toe in black, dripping in glam—Kyle with her $36K Birkin, Dorit stacked in rings and platforms, Rachel in sequins and feathers, Sutton chic and minimal, and Erika delivering iconic one-liners before even leaving the house.

Once the speed dating begins, nerves are high and hilarity ensues. Erika admits she’d rather perform naked on stage than make small talk, Kyle jokes she’d rather gouge her eyes out, and Dorit immediately shines—flirty, confident, and clearly the fan favorite among the men. Banter ranges from lemon “carcasses” and dominant vs. submissive questions to Coldplay insults and geographic confusion about what side of LA anyone actually lives on.

Highlights include:

• Dorit fully in her element, effortlessly charming multiple men and receiving glowing feedback from everyone.
• Sutton connecting with Rick, a former lawyer with a baseball background, who she finds easy and comfortable to talk to.
• Erika struggling with flirting, admitting she has “zero game,” yet still walking away with Rick’s business card—before ultimately giving it to Sutton in a rare moment of generosity and growth.
• Kyle grappling with dating post-separation, admitting she wants to get married again and opening up about attraction, identity, and uncertainty about the future.
• Rachel reflecting on her dating patterns, acknowledging she’s still drawn to emotionally unavailable men and recognizing unresolved hurt.

After the event, the women debrief—unanimously agreeing the Aussie Sebastian was the standout—while Dorit admits the night gave her a much-needed confidence boost, bringing back a flirty, feminine side of herself she’d missed.

The episode then shifts to heavier ground as Dorit opens up about her divorce from PK and the financial fallout. She reveals there was no prenup, limited financial transparency, and growing uncertainty about mortgages, retirement, and assets—all while her name is on everything. Amanda, a mindset and money coach, pushes Dorit to take control of her financial reality, while Boz struggles with advice that feels more “energetic” than practical. Dorit makes it clear: this road is going to get ugly, and there are no winners.

We also get quieter moments:

• Sutton and Rachel bonding over name changes, annulments, and fears about the future.
• Kyle shopping for her daughter Alexia’s wedding flowers, reflecting emotionally on love, marriage, and hoping her children don’t repeat her mistakes.
• Boz sharing her own past financial responsibility after loss, drawing parallels to Dorit’s situation.

The episode ends with WWHL highlights, including fans overwhelmingly agreeing that Kyle should stop being questioned about her sexuality, Sutton should “De-Stracke,” and that Craig and Brooks should absolutely not date. Erika reveals she’s been seeing someone for six months and believes Kyle’s future still leans “Brad.”

Transcript

Wendy (00:01.134)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:04.576)
I'm Kelly.

Lori (00:05.962)
and I'm Lori.

Wendy (00:07.852)
We are talking about Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, season 15, episode number three, a match made in Beverly Hills. Well, I get the idea, but I don't think there was a match made.

Lori (00:17.526)
There you go.

No, I don't think there was a match made. No. Nope.

Kelli (00:21.005)
I don't think there was any matches made.

But Sutton, I thought was the best sport out of all of them. And I loved when she was like, listen, I look at dating as like a, I'm like fearless. Like it is what it is.

Lori (00:35.168)
Yeah, is. Well, at this point, especially all the dates that she's been on, it certainly is what it is.

Wendy (00:35.522)
Yeah.

Kelli (00:39.839)
Yeah, and you know, after getting divorced from the father of your children, it's like, whatever.

Lori (00:44.212)
Yeah, yeah. But I do like the cinematic style of Real Housewives of Barrel Hills, and I do like the music, like the soundtrack.

I enjoyed this episode more than any other episode ever of Beverly Hills. I could have watched it for like, sorry, Wendy, I keep cutting you off, but I could have watched it like them talking to each person, each conversation, you know what I mean? Like this could have been like four episodes and I would have been half.

Wendy (00:55.246)
I

Kelli (01:00.203)
I thought it was a great episode.

Wendy (01:00.781)
I thought.

Kelli (01:17.079)
Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (01:18.296)
I agree. I enjoyed it also. I didn't think we all enjoyed it. And it went by quick because it was a little bit like Love Hotel. And they weren't fighting. Most importantly, they were not fighting.

Lori (01:27.18)
Uh huh. We were fighting. We were fighting. It was such a nice, nice break. Nice break. Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (01:31.223)
Good point.

Wendy (01:32.727)
Right?

Kelli (01:34.251)
Very good point. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (01:35.884)
Like, this is what we enjoy. We enjoy them interacting with each other or others and not fighting, having, you know, civil conversations. Like, this is what we want to watch.

Lori (01:39.744)
You're

Kelli (01:42.54)
Right.

Lori (01:46.13)
Absolutely. Yeah.

Kelli (01:48.855)
Yeah, for sure.

Wendy (01:49.55)
So, Bo's agreed to do this event for them. She goes into her contact list. So, these are not some randos. These were in her phone. These were in her Rolodex, so to speak. Me too!

Lori (01:56.683)
Right, right.

Lori (02:00.278)
I like it.

Kelli (02:02.273)
You know, I recognize the comedian Ben and I can't remember from where. I'm thinking possibly, but I could be wrong. I used to watch the Chelsea Handler show, Chelsea Lately, and it could be from that. Well, I'd like to hear Heather McDonald talk about it because she was always on Chelsea Handler show. So I gotta look him up and see what he's been on, but I recognized him.

Lori (02:06.892)
really?

Lori (02:17.364)
maybe he was on there.

Lori (02:29.068)
Interesting.

Kelli (02:32.108)
Yeah.

Wendy (02:32.78)
Yeah. So I wrote down some of the guys that she had there. So she had Sebastian. He was the motivational speaker and he was the Australian guy with the ivory pants. Yeah, the ivory top and the tan pants. Yes.

Lori (02:41.857)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (02:41.901)
Everybody seemed to like him, I think.

Lori (02:48.012)
Girls like an accent.

Wendy (02:50.466)
They do. Matt was a lawyer. He was the guy with brown hair. There was two lawyers. Matt, I did not like anything about him. I thought he was a jerk. Yep.

Lori (02:58.752)
No, he's a dick. He's a dick. He's a tool.

Kelli (03:00.353)
Well, is he the one that said to Erica, basically LA girls are horrible or Beverly Hills girls are horrible? Yeah, I mean, why would you say that? Yeah.

Lori (03:05.587)
Yes, yes, yes. was a tool. He was a tool.

Wendy (03:06.166)
Yes. Yep.

Lori (03:10.828)
Because he's a tool.

Wendy (03:11.488)
I know. Jeff was an entrepreneur. I just wrote down that he was bald. He really didn't make an impression on me.

Kelli (03:21.502)
Yeah, he didn't talk much.

Wendy (03:23.22)
No, Ben was a comedian, like you said. Now, Chase was the real estate agent. I wrote down that he was handsome. I thought he was the most handsome of them all, in my opinion.

Kelli (03:33.569)
He's the one that had done a deal with Mo. Yeah, yes, I agree. Handsome, yeah.

Lori (03:34.156)
Mm-hmm. Well, yeah.

Wendy (03:36.49)
Yes. Yes.

And then there was Rick, who was also a lawyer, but he was not practicing. And he's the one who spoke to Sutton and Erica, but he gave his phone number to Erica.

Lori (03:50.496)
Yeah. Yeah. I thought it was really funny how, the party planner didn't know what like, what a bach, like a bachelor was. He was like, I didn't see the bach. Yeah. Yeah. Her assistant. I didn't see the bachelorette. you need to see the bachelorette to know that a single guy is called a bachelor. I'm like, what? It's funny.

Wendy (04:02.365)
that was her assistant.

Kelli (04:16.983)
He's cute, Nico.

Lori (04:17.332)
And I, yeah, I thought it was great how Buzz was saying that she thinks Erica will scare the guys.

Wendy (04:25.741)
Yeah.

Lori (04:26.474)
And I do like the inside of her house.

Kelli (04:30.701)
she's got a great house. Her house is different from everyone else's house. Everyone else's home looks exactly the same except she and Erica. Kyle, Dorit, Sutton, now Amanda we see. Their houses are identical. It must be a thing. And you know what I was thinking when we saw Amanda's house, that's what Joe and Melissa Gorgas' house looks like now.

Lori (04:31.402)
Yeah, Bose, yeah, I do. I like it, it's like fun. Everybody else is just fun.

Wendy (04:33.73)
Yeah, absolutely.

Lori (04:42.251)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (04:46.294)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (04:54.742)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Wendy (04:55.962)
yeah. Good point.

Kelli (04:57.569)
They all look the same.

Lori (04:59.436)
Yeah, I just like her house. I like her style. I like her.

Wendy (04:59.608)
They do.

Kelli (05:03.721)
I do too. And I loved what Erica did to her house.

Wendy (05:08.588)
Yeah, her remodel. So the last guy, his name was Gareb and he was the artist. I wrote down he had on a white shirt and he was a nerd, but he's the guy who was talking to Erica about the cards, how he collects cards. And Erica's like, what kind of cars? I love cars. And he's like, basketball and... Yes, yes.

Kelli (05:09.741)
Okay.

Lori (05:19.392)
Yeah, he's a nerdy.

Kelli (05:27.309)
Was he the guy that started Comic Con? I mean, that's...

Lori (05:29.644)
Yeah. Meanwhile, meanwhile, he wants to talk about like baseball cards, which is like the last thing in the world. Any girl wants to talk about no, no chick wants to talk about. And you know, I was thinking like the Sebastian with the accent, he was cute, but I was thinking to myself, geez, like if I had like a bad, like menopause day, it would be the worst to be with like

Wendy (05:35.126)
Marvel.

Wendy (05:39.16)
Yeah.

Kelli (05:39.763)
Exactly. Exactly.

Lori (05:54.622)
a motivational speaker, you know, I've, you know, I'd be like, fuck you and you're just get through it, you know, let me let me get the nail gun and like pop you in the eye like just singing to myself. I don't think this will be good.

Kelli (05:54.849)
somebody with an accent.

Kelli (06:00.589)
you

Kelli (06:05.43)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Wendy (06:06.878)
you

Kelli (06:09.131)
Yeah. Yeah, I agree.

Wendy (06:14.232)
So we see the ladies are all getting ready to get there. And I have down a quote for Erica for one of her quotes for the day. She says that the look that she's going for is like, could give you a blowjob in the alley, but I won't. I was like, OK.

Lori (06:28.832)
That was so great. I love that. I thought that was so freaking funny. And I liked how they did the little flashback to the meeting that Boz had with the girls and asking them like what their qualities were. And Erica said, protect. Dorit said to feel safe and somebody shivers. And Kyle, thought she was really funny because she said, sexy. And Boz was like,

Kelli (06:28.843)
Right.

Kelli (06:44.972)
Yeah.

Lori (06:58.016)
what does that mean? And she said, someone who likes sex and you can tell by looking at them. I thought that was great. I thought that was great.

Kelli (07:03.083)
Yeah.

Wendy (07:07.468)
I did too. I thought it was also funny that they all arrived in black and you know they made the comment that they you know look like they were going to a funeral. Which I thought they all look stunning. know Dorit I wrote down that she does and she does wear a lot of rings. I was watching her put her rings on. I was watching her when she was on watch what happens live because she talks with her hands so much that you see all those rings all the time.

Lori (07:29.227)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (07:37.006)
I like, that girl wears a lot. Yeah, she likes her rings.

Lori (07:37.068)
It's just her gig. Just her gig.

Kelli (07:39.895)
That's what I like. Yeah, I do. I wear a lot of rings and probably that's because I, you know, use my hands a lot when I talk. Yeah.

Wendy (07:43.256)
Yeah.

Wendy (07:47.574)
You talk with your hands, right?

Lori (07:50.112)
But it's funny how, sorry, Tony how Erica said she wanted to look like a normal human being because guys get scared.

Kelli (07:57.868)
Yeah, like she wanted them to basically tone down her makeup. I thought that was interesting too. Yeah.

Wendy (07:58.266)
yeah.

Lori (08:02.346)
Yeah, that's funny.

Wendy (08:04.558)
It's also interesting that, you know, men are intimidated by her and like you said, she wanted to tone it down, but yet she's very insecure. She's introverted.

Lori (08:14.314)
Yeah, she's like a totally different, totally different Erica from on stage, totally different Erica from even on Housewives.

Kelli (08:14.828)
I know.

Kelli (08:23.297)
Right, when she, scenes with her, well, scenes with her and Tom, could see the insecurities. She was just a very subservient wife. I think that she, shoot, it just went right out of my head. I do think she's insecure, but I think she also has a resting bitch face, and I think that that's why she comes off as being intimidating to men. But it's not, it's just, that's her look.

Wendy (08:23.48)
Right.

Lori (08:29.515)
Right.

Wendy (08:29.709)
Yes.

Lori (08:43.988)
yeah.

Lori (08:48.298)
Yes. Right.

Kelli (08:52.171)
I think she just has that look.

Lori (08:54.592)
And you know when they were going, when Boz was talking to the guys about the group chat, did you guys check, know, write any of those down, what was in the group chat?

Wendy (09:05.261)
I noted, I didn't write it down. No, but I wrote down what Erica's name, what Erica's name was. Did you see what her name was?

Kelli (09:05.697)
what the ladies were saying.

Lori (09:08.222)
Yeah, what the ladies were saying. Yeah, how do you like that? Yeah, I saw that.

Kelli (09:13.633)
What was it?

Wendy (09:16.278)
It was Badass Girardi or something. What was it? I didn't write it down. I didn't write it down.

Lori (09:20.268)
Yeah, I'll tell you. Yeah, I'll tell you. So, and when Baz was talking to the guys and telling them about the group chat, that one guy, Matt, the lawyer, he was like on his phone when she was talking. I was like, oh, you're a dick. You're a dick. So right away. Um, and so Rachel Zoe said she didn't know what to wear. And Kyle is like, it's nice to know that you struggle, that you know, you struggle with that.

Kelli (09:22.71)
I didn't notice.

Wendy (09:35.52)
Yeah, I didn't like him.

Kelli (09:39.029)
Kelli (09:49.207)
The Fashionista.

Lori (09:50.338)
Yeah, let's see.

Kelli (09:54.919)
Somebody did Kyle say that she would pay Sutton if she were the cat sweater

Lori (09:59.272)
Yes, yes, yes, yes, she did.

Kelli (10:02.189)
That's funny.

Lori (10:04.147)
I forget what else. it was like a bad bitch Gerardi or something.

Wendy (10:10.166)
Yeah, something like that. That's what her name was listed in the text messages.

Lori (10:14.155)
Yeah.

Wendy (10:18.03)
So Rachel was wearing black sequins and feathers. I don't know if you caught that.

Lori (10:24.064)
Yep, yep, yep, I think that's her gig. I that's her gig. Yeah, so I felt like Dorit was doing like a Chanel like clubbing look. Erica was going for like sexy secretary. I love how, yeah, but she was going clubbing too. She was going clubbing too. I thought it was just funny. And I love how, yeah, I love how.

Wendy (10:27.404)
That's definitely her gig.

Kelli (10:38.53)
Yes.

loved Kyle's dress.

Kelli (10:45.751)
She was definitely going clubbing. I love that dress. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (10:50.03)
was surprised with Sutton and the pants. Sutton and the pants was very understated. I for sure thought she'd have a cute little dress. She looked fabulous, but she doesn't normally wear pants.

Kelli (10:52.033)
Yeah.

Lori (10:56.182)
You looked good though.

Lori (11:01.644)
She needs to wear pants more.

Wendy (11:04.926)
Okay

Kelli (11:06.763)
I kind of agree. I agree. I'm not gonna say why, because I don't want to get heat. But I agree.

Lori (11:12.344)
I'll say it. She doesn't have great legs. That's okay. I don't have great thighs. I'll tell anybody. I don't care. I like how Erica said, I look like the maid that's gonna bend over and get it.

Kelli (11:14.785)
She does not have great legs.

Lori (11:28.3)
That's great.

Wendy (11:30.51)
And Bo said to the ladies, don't ask for any dick pics.

Lori (11:34.282)
Yeah, I think she was trying to make a joke.

Kelli (11:34.369)
Yeah, what was that? Nobody our age is asking for dick pics, by the way. If there are any men out there listening, don't fucking send dick pics to women in their 40s and 50s. We don't want them.

Lori (11:47.616)
No.

Wendy (11:48.0)
No, we do not want dick pics. I don't care what it looks like. I don't care how fabulous it is. I don't need to see it.

Kelli (11:50.561)
Maybe exactly. I don't want to see it. No.

Lori (11:54.028)
No, no, no, does nothing. But I think she was trying to make a joke and it just didn't. I didn't land.

Wendy (11:55.682)
No.

Kelli (12:01.537)
and land.

Wendy (12:02.55)
It definitely didn't land. So then all the ladies go outside and Ben's talking to Dorit and he said, I've never heard of a lemon referred to as a carcass. And this was so awkward. She's like, well, you know, it's just a drink. You know, it's clean and easy. And he's like, well, is that how you describe yourself? And she's like, well, not easy. But she looks over at Kyle and she says, you know, but she is and make sure that you tell her I told you. I was like, wait, what?

Lori (12:30.646)
There was this miracle. I love how she didn't get flummoxed over. That was great.

Kelli (12:32.301)
I thought that was fucking hysterical. Hysterical.

Wendy (12:32.673)
Ha ha ha!

Wendy (12:37.452)
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (12:37.469)
Exactly. She just played right along.

Lori (12:40.522)
And it was so funny when they first went out there because Erica, like, she was all nervous and she like turned around and like ran to get a drink. I'm like, girl, what are you doing running? Like, what are you doing running? That's funny.

Wendy (12:51.608)
So did Kyle.

Kelli (12:54.497)
Yeah, like Dorit and Sutton seemed the most, well, Rachel too. I think Rachel went into it thinking like, I'm not interested in any of these guys, so I really don't give a fuck how today goes. But I think that Sutton and Dorit were like the most comfortable with the guys.

Lori (12:59.242)
Yeah, that works!

Lori (13:04.054)
Right, so I'm just going to play along. Right.

Lori (13:11.628)
And I love how Baz said that like, what is this Erica? Like she probably has like whips and chains somewhere at home. Like what is she? What is she doing? Yeah.

Kelli (13:21.619)
I don't think so. I think that's just a persona she puts on and that's not really her.

Lori (13:25.772)
Yeah, that was funny.

Wendy (13:28.418)
I mean, even, Erica said she, she said she'd be more comfortable standing on stage without clothes than she would doing this, so.

Kelli (13:29.845)
Although she was a dancer.

Lori (13:36.256)
without clothes. Right.

Kelli (13:36.639)
Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, because it's not personal. There's nothing personal about that. Like she was a dancer. She would go on stage and that's a character just like Erika Jean was a character for her.

Lori (13:49.152)
Right, yep.

Wendy (13:51.434)
said she'd rather gouge out her own eyeballs.

Lori (13:53.356)
or I. This is great.

Kelli (13:57.858)
That was funny. Yes.

Lori (14:01.164)
I just felt like this episode you just saw really nice sides of all of them. And a lot of times you don't, you know? But you just saw a nice side of everybody and I thought that was like really refreshing. It was so interesting when Kyle was doing her speed date with that Sebastian, the motivational speaker, I was thinking, oh, what's his deal gonna be with marriage? know, how he was like, well, uh, uh, uh, uh. I was thinking, oh, yeah.

Kelli (14:05.709)
Yeah.

Wendy (14:06.061)
I did too.

Kelli (14:15.169)
Yeah, I agree.

Kelli (14:27.137)
Yeah, if he's ever been married before. Is he the one that said he got married for one day in Vegas because it was on his bucket list? And he said you could do that in this country? Why you can't do that in another country? That's a little odd.

Lori (14:31.72)
Vegas. That's weird. I'm sorry, that's weird.

Lori (14:39.542)
Hell fine.

Wendy (14:40.162)
Maybe not. Maybe not. I don't know.

Lori (14:42.302)
It's odd that you would have that on your bucket list. To me, it's odd.

Wendy (14:48.29)
Joree thought that that was acceptable. She said, I was going to ask you if that was a bucket list item.

Kelli (14:54.273)
Well, so she must know. She must know if that's not legal in another country.

Wendy (15:00.588)
I know, I thought that was weird.

Lori (15:01.078)
Who knows? Yeah, it was weird. It's just weird.

Wendy (15:04.33)
Even that whole conversation that Sebastian had with Dorit, he said, where do you live on the East side? And she's like, well, I think we're on the West side. And he's like, no, I think we're on the East side. Like she doesn't know where she lives. She doesn't know if she lives on the East side or the West side. And then she's like, well, I live in the Valley. Right?

Kelli (15:17.473)
And then she said she lives in the valley. I couldn't believe she lived in the valley. I don't know why.

Lori (15:20.16)
That was.

That would be me though. I would be like, I live in California. I'm living in this area. I'll give you my address.

Kelli (15:26.221)
So that is true.

Kelli (15:32.617)
I love when Lori tells people the street, the main street we live off of, she's like, and not the nice side, the other side.

Lori (15:40.522)
Yeah. I always say we don't want to move far just across the street because across the street is like multimillion dollar, water, you homes and across the street then is the three bedroom ranches that we live. So I would say we don't want to move far just across the street. And I love how Erica was talking to that Rick, the lawyer, and he said he was no longer practicing and Erica's like, thank God.

Kelli (15:46.166)
Right.

Yes.

Kelli (15:55.937)
Yes. Right.

Wendy (15:59.992)
There you go.

Kelli (16:09.035)
Yes, she did. I guess it only takes being married to one lawyer and you're like, you know.

Wendy (16:09.08)
Yeah.

Lori (16:14.538)
And you're like, no, I'm out. Yeah.

Wendy (16:16.588)
Yeah. Matt is talking to Rachel and she asks him like, does he think is effing amazing? And he said, I don't know, maybe Led Zeppelin or the Rolling Stones.

Kelli (16:28.019)
Acceptable answers by the way

Lori (16:30.635)
Yes.

Wendy (16:30.784)
Yeah. And then Rachel said, Chris Martin. And he said, Coldplay sucks, dude. He called her dude. I thought that was a little odd. mean, one, he's a lawyer. Two, she is a woman. you don't call, you just met her. Why are you calling her dude? I don't know.

Lori (16:41.611)
very

Lori (16:46.656)
It doesn't just matter.

Kelli (16:51.245)
I'm pretty sure Eric called me dude for like a year when we started dating. He still calls everybody dude, but not me so much. Now I'm kid, but I think I was dude for a long time. And I think everybody was dude, but it was a little odd for a first date speed dating situation, but I agree with him. I think Coldplay sucks.

Wendy (16:54.477)
Ha ha ha!

Wendy (17:08.694)
Yeah!

Lori (17:11.808)
Well, I didn't like the comment that he said that, you know, white women love Coldplay. I would have been like, it doesn't matter. Fuck off.

Kelli (17:19.137)
They do though.

Wendy (17:21.166)
I don't love Coldplay. mean...

Kelli (17:22.733)
I think they're fan base the majority of. Because I think that a lot of white women think that Chris Martin is attractive.

Wendy (17:36.376)
Okay, I don't. I don't think he's attractive.

Kelli (17:37.791)
I don't either. I don't either.

Lori (17:41.868)
Now how about when Matt was asking Dorit, what do you do for fun? And she was like, well, I haven't had fun in so long. And he goes, well, how could you wear that sexy dress and not? I was like, ew. Ew.

Kelli (18:00.038)
see, I was like, well played. No?

Lori (18:03.094)
Yeah, now I was not seeing it. I didn't like it.

Wendy (18:04.61)
I didn't like them. I didn't like them either.

Kelli (18:07.507)
All right, I fall for it.

Lori (18:09.3)
Yeah. And how about Sutton giving like bend the eye over her cocktail? She was like, when he was talking to her and asking about the Dom or submissive thing.

Wendy (18:15.83)
You

Kelli (18:19.767)
See, I could actually see Sutton with that comedian, Ben. I could see her with him, and I think...

Wendy (18:19.886)
my God, that was so funny.

Lori (18:26.23)
See, I could see Dorit with him.

Kelli (18:29.189)
I think that Sutton has, and I'm not a huge fan, but I think that Sutton does have a very dry sense of humor, but she has a good sense of humor. And I think her with somebody like that, I think it would break her dry sense of humor down. Like she would have to, she'd have to give in and laugh more than she might want to. And I don't think Dorique would get him. I think Sutton would get him though.

Lori (18:36.864)
Yes, sometimes.

Lori (18:57.066)
Right, right.

Kelli (18:57.845)
I think actually that would be a cute match. I'd like to see them out on a date, Bravo. Make it happen.

Wendy (19:05.408)
Yeah, I would like to see Sutton find somebody who is a good match for her because you know what, we've never seen her with somebody. She's been divorced the whole time she's been on, you know?

Lori (19:15.584)
Right, right.

Kelli (19:16.139)
Yeah, and we saw her go on a few dates with that one guy that they flashed back to. I do not remember him talking about his mom as much as he apparently did. I don't remember that. He really did talk about his mom that much. my God. It was too much. It was too much.

Lori (19:24.346)
I remember that.

I remember. He really did. He really did.

Wendy (19:31.918)
Crazy.

Wendy (19:37.686)
It was. So then Bose is talking to Nico, our assistant. She's like, I've been talking to the guys and everybody really likes Storee. And she's like, and the girls, they all seem to like Sebastian. And Nico's like, well, of course everybody, I like Sebastian, Nico said.

Kelli (19:51.829)
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Lori (19:53.844)
And Bo's is funny, she's like, okay, go inside.

Kelli (19:56.43)
Now, you think and listen, Dorit is an absolutely gorgeous woman. And I do think she's got game. I think she proved that in this episode. Do you think that all of the men really were interested in her or do you think Bose was gassing her up? Because I think Bose gases Dorit up a lot.

Wendy (19:56.632)
Yeah.

Lori (20:19.144)
well she definitely does gas her up. But I think that, I don't know whether they were necessarily attracted to her, but I think that she, in that kind of situation, like she came in first, she said hi, she went up to everybody, introduced herself. I think she has like an easy way about her. She's a good conversationalist. She likes to yak. So I think that was the aspect.

Kelli (20:33.611)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (20:40.351)
Yes, she really is. Yeah.

Lori (20:45.798)
maybe you could say they all felt comfortable with her.

Kelli (20:49.685)
Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (20:51.308)
because I just think she has that way about her to put it at ease. Because she's a yakker, you know? She likes the yak, so.

Wendy (20:52.002)
I agree.

Wendy (21:03.064)
So at this point, Bo's kind of tells them their time is up and she excuses the bachelors and she tells them to leave, which I was glad she did that. And then the ladies sit down and they start talking afterwards. And everyone is telling Dorit that she did a really great job. And she is like, I'm very good in these situations. Like she has really no problems with her self-esteem, I will tell you that. Which is good.

Kelli (21:29.963)
Yeah, yeah, I agree. Absolutely. And listen, thank God because PK is a dick, obviously. I mean, we're learning. So sometimes when you're married to somebody like that for a long time, you kind of lose a part of yourself and part of your self-esteem and she hasn't, so God bless her. Yeah, it's not like she's not playing victim. She's just like, yeah, he ain't fucking paying. you know.

Wendy (21:32.544)
Which is good.

Wendy (21:37.974)
Yeah. definitely.

Lori (21:39.137)
Yes.

Wendy (21:51.85)
No, I think she's gonna be okay. No.

Lori (21:57.13)
Right.

Wendy (21:58.274)
Yeah, I think she's gonna be okay. I think she's gonna be okay.

Kelli (22:00.526)
yeah, for sure.

Wendy (22:03.406)
I do like that Erica did give the business card that Rick gave her to Sutton, because Sutton said that she was interested.

Lori (22:13.28)
I thought that was very nice. And I don't feel like the old Erica would have done that.

Wendy (22:15.574)
I did too.

Wendy (22:19.853)
No.

Lori (22:21.014)
You know? So I think it just goes to show how far she's come. Yes.

Kelli (22:22.443)
Yeah.

Kelli (22:26.839)
growth.

Wendy (22:28.054)
Yes, and let me ask you this. you were in the situation Sutton was in and you were interested in him and he gave the card to Erica and then Erica gave the card to you, would you call him?

Lori (22:38.568)
No, I'm out. I'm out. I'm out. Nope.

Kelli (22:40.673)
Never, never in a million years.

Wendy (22:44.76)
That's so interesting. I was thinking about it. I was thinking I might. I might. If I was interested in him and I saw something in him, if he didn't pick me, I would still think I would give him call.

Lori (23:01.662)
Okay.

Kelli (23:02.069)
No, I definitely wouldn't. I'll tell you what. So.

Wendy (23:04.546)
I wonder if Sutton does. I wonder if Sutton does. Yeah.

Lori (23:06.806)
Yeah, that'd be interesting.

Kelli (23:08.749)
Eric and I knew each other from when I was a teenager and then we both had other relationships and then we met back up at his sister's barbecue and he asked me for his number that night and I was like, you know what, why don't you give me your number? And I had never, ever, ever done that before with a guy.

Wendy (23:23.554)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (23:29.845)
and he gave me his card. And I did call him and I always had every intention of calling him, but I was just like, you know what? I'm not in the mood to fucking sit around and wait for someone to call me. Yeah.

Wendy (23:30.583)
Yeah.

Lori (23:41.728)
Wait for you to call me. Yeah, no.

I used to drive my girlfriends crazy, because, I mean, not today, not now with the shmata on my head, close to 60. But I would go out to like the club, and if there was a really hot guy, I would just like go up to him and be like, hey, what's up? And they would be like, what if he like, you know, turned you down? I said, well.

What if he does? Some other dude on the other side I'll go talk to. But I never like, I would always be that person who would just be like, hey, like, what's up? you know, but the other girls would be like, I don't know, he's too hot.

Kelli (24:10.029)
Who cares? Exactly, who cares? Right.

Wendy (24:11.32)
Who cares?

Kelli (24:18.477)
All right, good for you.

Wendy (24:20.876)
Yeah, absolutely.

Kelli (24:25.141)
I'd probably be like them.

Lori (24:27.006)
All he could say is no. That's how I always looked at it.

Kelli (24:30.637)
You're right though. Now I think I would be like that. God forbid I ever found myself single. Now I think I would be like that. But not then, not back then.

Wendy (24:32.621)
That's a very good point.

Wendy (24:43.054)
So then Dorit asks Kyle, do you feel like you're actively looking to meet someone? And she said, no, she's not. She's like, are you? And Dorit said, well, I'm not in this for three years. listen, I like what Kyle said. She said, listen, I'm looking for a life partner. She wants to get married again. She doesn't want to just date. And I think that even when we see her her confessional at the end when she's talking about her daughter getting married and

Alexia and her marriage with Moe, I think she really wants Moe back. And I don't think that she's willing to just settle, you know?

Kelli (25:18.029)
100%.

Lori (25:18.528)
Yep, I think so too.

Lori (25:25.376)
Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (25:25.453)
Yeah, 100%. She's, she definitely wants to be back with Mo. But I do think that, I do think that she cared for Morgan Wade very much. So remember she said she had three great loves.

Wendy (25:40.653)
Yeah.

Kelli (25:41.964)
So it's funny, I was listening to husbands watching Howe's Wives and they were saying that the three great loves were Farrah's father, Moe, and then one of the husbands said Morgan and the other one was like, no, C. Thomas Howell. Because C. Thomas Howell was her first love, she said it, like they dated for a long time when they were younger. So it doesn't matter who her three are and I don't think it's anybody's business and I don't think anybody should

Wendy (26:10.167)
Right.

Kelli (26:10.967)
pressure her to say the names, because nobody, you know, she answered the question. But I forgot about C. Thomas Howell. And I'm sure she, yeah, I'm sure she loved Farrah's husband, but, I mean, Farrah's father, excuse me, they were very young. Honestly, I'm gonna say I think her mother probably pushed her into that marriage because he had money. And I think that that's who her mother was.

Wendy (26:20.886)
No, I did too.

Wendy (26:27.32)
They were young. Yeah, they were young.

Kelli (26:39.649)
And then she met Mo and was like, this is who I'm supposed to be with. So Morgan could very well be one of those three great loves, you know? And again, it's none of our business, but it's...

Lori (26:43.446)
Right, right.

Lori (26:47.762)
Or not. Right. But I kind of feel like with with Kyle, like my take on it is Mo cheated on her. They grew apart. They got separated. She and Morgan became friends. She was in her marriage for a long time and probably didn't have you know how you have that thing with girlfriends. I mean, it's it's this kind of love in itself like

Wendy (26:49.953)
Right.

Kelli (27:16.717)
Sure.

Lori (27:17.676)
you know, girls have really great relationships with their friends. And I think that probably, you know, maybe, maybe Kyle will end up to be bi, but maybe too, it was like that, that thrill, the out of the box and the combination of finally having like a really good girlfriend that you had such great time with and then you throw in a little chemistry.

Kelli (27:34.701)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (27:42.541)
and chemistry.

Lori (27:44.501)
And then you throw in a little connection and then you throw in like, my husband just left me but I kissed a girl and I liked it. You know what I mean? Like, could, know, that whole thing.

Kelli (27:53.355)
Right, yeah, for sure.

Wendy (27:58.06)
No, I agree with that. So then I thought it was interesting. Erica asks Dorit if she could have a chat with her and her and Dorit go into the other room and then Sutton showed up. I didn't expect Sutton to be there. I don't know.

Kelli (27:58.37)
Yeah.

Lori (28:09.797)
Why does that go? was like, what are you doing?

Kelli (28:13.431)
thought it was odd, then as the scene played out, I was like, well, it's not a bad thing that it happened, but it was very odd. It wasn't very organic how it happened.

Lori (28:17.472)
was it? Yeah.

Wendy (28:20.437)
Right.

Lori (28:21.556)
It was hot at the time. No. No.

Wendy (28:24.77)
I thought so too. I didn't know if I was the only one who thought, this is a little weird.

Lori (28:28.832)
Yeah, it was a little weird.

Kelli (28:29.357)
No, yeah, not at all. Not the only one.

Wendy (28:33.058)
But Sutton was there for Dorit. Basically, they were both there for Dorit, know, kind of giving her encouragement. Yeah, and finding out how it's going with PK and, you know, did the kids make it to Florida? And they did, which is good. And then outside, that's when, you know, Boz and Kyle are kind of having their conversation. And Boz says to Kyle that she wants to be there for her, you know? She's like, I don't know, like, I don't know what it is you're looking for. And Kyle's like, well, why don't you just ask me what you want?

Lori (28:36.82)
Yeah, very supportive.

Kelli (28:45.687)
Yeah.

Wendy (29:02.914)
Boz is like, what's that? And Kyle's like, well, I could go, you know, Brad, or I could go Angelina. And Boz is like, are you serious about that? She's like, well, I mean, kind of, but you know, I've learned a lot about myself. know, it's not, it's not, like gender doesn't really matter is what she's learned, you know? And, right.

Kelli (29:24.801)
think it's just about the connection and I think she's just really connected with Morgan. So now it's like, okay, so this could be a thing. Doesn't mean it has to be a thing, but it could be a thing. that's, know.

Lori (29:29.26)
Yeah, like I said.

Wendy (29:31.287)
Right.

Lori (29:33.772)
Right. No, but it could be a thing. Right. But I really don't feel like Kyle. I feel like kind of like Boz, like Boz just like ease up girl. Like I don't think Kyle needs a wingman.

Wendy (29:34.006)
Right. Right.

Kelli (29:48.898)
I think that Boz has, I don't know what it is, and again, I Garcelle was trying to do this last year. Just get Kyle to, you know, but last year we didn't know that Morgan wanted nothing to do with any of this. She didn't like how she was portrayed the first season. She wanted nothing to do with last season. And apparently Garcelle knew that, but Garcelle was still pushing.

I feel like Bose is kind of picking up where Garcelle left off. And I do think Kyle's being a little bit more forthcoming, but at some point you have to let it go. Like this is all we're gonna get at this point. Let's fucking move on.

Lori (30:28.725)
Right.

Wendy (30:29.166)
Okay.

Lori (30:31.444)
Right. Right. But also I think though that Boza's personality, I feel like she's a fixer. I feel like she's a fixer. Like that's, she's a rescuer, she's a fixer. Like it's her, it's how she operates. So, you know, maybe it's half and half or 20 and 80, you know what I mean? Like maybe producers are like.

Kelli (30:40.297)
Well, yeah, obviously.

Kelli (30:56.161)
You guys are gonna laugh at me. I have to grab something. I'm freezing. Continue to-

Lori (31:01.248)
We'll let you.

Wendy (31:01.902)
Okay, no problem. I I liked that Rachel said to her, you know, cause Kyle said, I don't really know what I want. And know, and Rachel's like, it's okay to not know. Like you've been with him for 30 years. You don't have to know exactly what you're looking for. And I agree with that. I definitely agree with that. You know, you shouldn't have to all of a sudden leave a relationship of 30 years and have to know what it is you're looking for. Because that's what Bose is like, well,

Lori (31:14.86)
Right, you don't know if they know. Right, exactly.

Wendy (31:30.784)
What are you attracted to? And she's like, well, know, Mo was told dark and handsome. OK. Let's just give her time. Let her figure it out. Yeah.

Kelli (31:38.414)
Like I think she just said it. yeah, like, you know, she doesn't know, like she doesn't know. And the bottom line is, like we've all said, ideally, she'd probably just like to be back with her husband and back where she was. You know? I'm freezing, so I had to put this thing on, I don't know why I chose to put a t-shirt on.

Lori (31:46.474)
Right. Who knows at this point?

Wendy (31:55.758)
Yeah.

Wendy (32:00.088)
That's quite all right.

Lori (32:03.808)
But it was interesting when, I guess it was Erica and Amanda and Dorit were having conversation about being in a divorce and your state of mind. Like I never really thought about that before. And so, you know, like being on TV probably is not the greatest place to be. You know, somebody scrutinizing your behavior and.

you know, your state of mind and it's all out there. I don't know, that's like an extra added pressure that being scrutinized.

Kelli (32:39.511)
I know, and somebody commented on one of our posts that Dorit should like, if she's so worried about her kids, why is she on TV? I'm like, I think at this point she needs the paycheck. Let's face it. Like he's not paying for anything. She's obviously the breadwinner right now. And then, yeah, I mean, going forward into that conversation with she and Boz and Amanda, it's like, I mean, if there's no retirement or investments.

Lori (32:48.566)
She needs to paycheck it. Hell yeah, she's gotta pay for shit.

Lori (33:06.272)
Yeah, that's good.

Kelli (33:06.389)
And I 100 % believe that that is true. I do not think that P.K. is a savvy businessman. And I do not think that P.K. plans for the future. I think that P.K. is a partier and lives in the moment. And just figures, you know, he's friends with people like Lisa Vanderpump and Boy George. So he'll just land on his feet. And very well he may, but plan for the future. You have children. If you didn't have children, great, fly by the seat of your pants. But you have kids.

Lori (33:18.846)
Absolutely.

Lori (33:25.548)
Right.

You have to put it in front.

Kelli (33:35.893)
Little kids and grown children. That's right. Yeah, that's right. Right. I mean, come on.

Wendy (33:36.014)
Well, he has grown children. He has grown children too. Right. This isn't his first rodeo.

Wendy (33:45.784)
Yeah. I mean, the next thing we see is Amanda's at her house with her kids and her fiance. And the producer, I thought this was an odd question, asks her, like, how is this different from growing up in Oklahoma? How is Beverly Hills different from Oklahoma?

Lori (34:01.536)
different from Oklahoma. Duh.

Kelli (34:02.167)
Yeah, that was a weird con- that was a weird question. And her reaction was kinda like, like she started like, laughing. I'm like, I don't know.

Lori (34:13.174)
Yeah.

Wendy (34:13.496)
So.

Kelli (34:14.103)
what this woman does, but she's not really bothering me yet. So I'm really curious to see, she is, she is.

Wendy (34:18.957)
she's bothering me.

Lori (34:20.468)
I wish you'd

Wendy (34:23.532)
Yes, because she says, and Bose calls it out at the end, she says a whole lot of nothing. And this is what I think about her. Like when she wrote this book and she's gassing herself up and she's a motivational and a manifestor. really, she's just using a whole lot of words and saying a whole lot of nothing. And to me, it's like a snake oil salesperson.

Kelli (34:45.249)
Yeah.

Lori (34:46.156)
A lot of words, salad.

Wendy (34:52.61)
feel like I just see right through her. I could be wrong, but this is my first impression of her. I just think...

Kelli (34:59.147)
And what did she say she got her masters in?

Wendy (35:03.273)
as social work.

Lori (35:03.317)
I wrote it down. Social work or something. Yeah.

Kelli (35:06.295)
Social work, yeah. Like not even like business or like finance or like anything. Accounting, like nothing, you know, yeah, okay.

Wendy (35:07.884)
Yes, social work.

Lori (35:12.402)
No.

Wendy (35:13.046)
No, social work.

Lori (35:18.506)
Yeah, so she's

Wendy (35:18.68)
I mean, yeah, she just talks, I mean, she says it's the, she's saying it's the psychology of it. I'm like, what? What does that mean?

Lori (35:26.196)
Well, there- I know what she means. I do know what she means. She-

Wendy (35:30.648)
Well, not when Bo says to her, no, because Bo says to her, give Dorit some real life things that she can do, like, to get ahead of this. And she...

Kelli (35:31.425)
Wendy's perplexed! What does it mean?

Lori (35:40.235)
But this is the thing, but this is the thing Bose is approaching it, that she wants Amanda to give Dorit advice, advice that Dorit should be getting from her divorce attorney. Amanda is giving her advice of from where she comes from. So Amanda comes from the whole aspect of that. You can create more money in your life when you have a better relationship.

Kelli (35:48.779)
Financial.

Lori (36:09.772)
towards money because people and I, this is just what I believe, you you have energy about you and everything that you do and a lot of people stay stuck financially and I am one of them because of, you know, how you grew up and how you deal with money and how you see money and when you start to approach it money from a different angle.

more money does come to you. That's just like a basic law of the universe concept that a lot of people really don't get. So that's her get. That's her get.

Kelli (36:44.567)
Yeah.

Wendy (36:46.094)
I get that. No, I totally.

Kelli (36:47.371)
Yeah, like she's about like mindset and and what are you you know, you have to picture this for yourself and and do a mood board and And bo's wanted her to give dory financial advice, but she's not a financial person. She doesn't even have that background

Lori (36:54.464)
Yes. And how do you envision yourself? Like, that's her gig.

Lori (37:04.78)
I'm sorry. That's what I was. That's what I thought. Like she was asking her for information that Dorit should be really getting from her divorce attorney. then was right. And then was kind of like like you said, Wendy, she was just like kind of confused about where Amanda was coming. And she thought that she was just giving her like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But I don't necessarily think that that's it. I think that Bose was expecting something that

Wendy (37:09.036)
Okay.

Kelli (37:14.005)
or business manager.

Kelli (37:26.914)
Right.

Wendy (37:26.914)
Right.

Lori (37:34.442)
wasn't correct for the person asking it from. Right. I don't think.

Kelli (37:36.29)
Yeah, she doesn't have the, even the qualifications to provide that kind of advice to her. I agree with you. Cause when Bo was afterwards, she was like, what was that? I'm thinking, well, who the fuck did you think she was talking to? Donald Trump. Well, sorry. Shouldn't use him as a reference. Sorry. Rewind that. You know, who's the other guy? Mark Cuban?

Lori (37:50.326)
Sorry. Nope, not for anything.

Wendy (37:51.936)
No, please don't. Please don't.

Kelli (37:59.692)
Like, she's not a financial person. She's a mindset, she's a manifestor, she's that kind, energy, that kind of person.

Lori (38:07.562)
Right. But I don't think Boz understood that. That's all. But once Boz does understand, then she'd be like, OK, that's you. get it. That's what you do. So Amanda had no, not for what Boz was looking for.

Kelli (38:13.271)
Sure, sure. I- yeah.

Wendy (38:21.006)
So she wasn't the right person to be getting that advice from. No. All right. I get that. I get that. I get that. Yeah.

Kelli (38:24.034)
Yeah.

Kelli (38:29.153)
But you are right, she did say a lot of nothing.

Lori (38:31.988)
Of course. Yeah.

Wendy (38:32.076)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (38:36.182)
So Amanda's been with her fiance five years, and then she said, and so I don't know when they got together, because she said.

Wendy (38:46.83)
36, she was just turning 36.

Lori (38:48.874)
Right, so she had the baby the same year that she met him. Because, yeah, she was pregnant in 2020.

Wendy (38:52.878)
She must have.

Kelli (38:54.369)
Yeah, well, she said he asked her, like, what are your goals? What are your plans? And she wanted to have a baby before she was even worried about getting married.

Lori (39:00.07)
She's like...

Right, the clock was ticking.

Wendy (39:05.858)
Yeah, she put, yeah, and she said she had a timeline. She also mentioned that he cooks and he's like, yeah, because we like to eat and no one would be eating if I didn't cook. That was funny. Yeah.

Kelli (39:20.129)
Wendy's like, I hear that.

Lori (39:21.758)
Mm-hmm. Me and Kelly are like, we're with you, Rachel, when you say you really appreciate that your husband cooks. We're with you on that one. We wish we had it going on. We get it.

Kelli (39:30.209)
Yeah, yeah for sure. Yep, for sure. Eric's great at breakfast. Although I shouldn't complain. I worked all day and came home, he had a big crock pot full of chicken rice soup. But yeah, but on the daily, yes.

Wendy (39:44.012)
There you go.

Lori (39:44.044)
You can't play. I can't play.

Wendy (39:49.114)
Mm-hmm. Then we see Rachel sits down with Sutton. I wrote down, love Sutton's jacket. I don't know if you remember it. had on a black jacket with the white embroidery. It was gorgeous.

Lori (39:58.002)
I loved it. Yes, yes, with the little. Love it.

Kelli (40:03.242)
See, I didn't even notice it.

Lori (40:05.544)
I think she's gotten a new stylist, because I feel like her style is much better for her. Much better this season.

Wendy (40:05.687)
Yeah.

Kelli (40:11.348)
I agree.

I noticed the lipstick, I don't normally notice the clothes. But I agree, think Sutton definitely has a new style.

Wendy (40:18.104)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (40:23.35)
I think you may be right, because the fact that, like I said, that she never wears pants and that she showed up there with pants, like, you're right.

Kelli (40:27.852)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Wendy (40:32.334)
So Sutton and Rachel know of each other. They have a lot of mutual friends, but they've never really sat down and talked to each other. So that's what they're going to do, which I think is nice. I think this is a good way to get to know each other. And the two of them are talking about the speed dating. And Rachel asks Sutton, would she get married again? And Sutton starts telling her about the annulment. And.

Lori (40:41.674)
Yeah, absolutely.

Wendy (40:57.036)
She's talking about her maiden name and how it's brown and she's not sure, like she thinks now she should probably change it, change it because it's not her name anymore. Strack is not her name. And Rachel says as soon as she got separated, she went back to her maiden name immediately, which I think that's interesting. I mean, especially considering they were together for so long before they had children and she has children.

Kelli (41:17.729)
Yeah. And she has kids.

Wendy (41:24.588)
Like, I just think that's interesting, but you know what? Everyone, it's different for everyone, right? Everyone has their own identity. when Sutton said she really thought that she could get Christian back if she wanted him, me too.

Kelli (41:24.791)
Yeah.

Lori (41:39.116)
was so surprised she said that. I would never imagine her saying that. I would never picture her saying that. was like,

Kelli (41:40.545)
Very surprised.

Kelli (41:47.159)
So I wonder if that means like there was infidelity and maybe he like tried to stay and she was like, no, you you know what I mean?

Lori (41:54.689)
Maybe. But it's interesting because she does say that she would speak to him and they'd have a connection and she would said to herself, did I just win him back a little bit? Very interesting words people use, win him back.

Kelli (42:11.489)
Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (42:13.76)
you know?

Kelli (42:15.661)
You know, what, yeah, yeah. But when you, it's a good question. Like when you're forced to agree to an annulment, because it doesn't sound like she had much choice, do you have to change your name back? Like.

Wendy (42:15.992)
Well, I think he had all the power in the relationship.

Lori (42:18.036)
Yes. Yes. Yes.

Wendy (42:29.688)
You don't agree to it. She wasn't... No, you don't have to do anything.

Lori (42:34.572)
No, because I think her name is still legally her name. Like, you can't buy that away.

Kelli (42:34.797)
That's what I mean, like, so...

Wendy (42:38.743)
Right.

Kelli (42:40.033)
So basically, an annulment is just erasing from the big book that you were married in the Catholic Church. Right.

Lori (42:47.18)
Right. In their eyes. In their eyes.

Wendy (42:47.404)
Right, she doesn't have, right, in their eyes. And she didn't agree to it. She was just told that this is happening. No one asked her for her opinion. It just happened. And what she is saying is, and I get this, you know, the fact that he's done this, she should not, like, don't go back to your old name. he shouldn't get the satisfaction of you having his name. Like, you know I mean? Like,

Kelli (43:12.781)
I would go, if he's forcing an annulment, I would go back to my maiden name. But I get her, like, it's the kid thing. Like having the same last name as your kids. As a mom, I feel like you would want that, but Rachel doesn't, so, yeah, I don't know. I hope I'm never, right. Right.

Lori (43:23.678)
as your kids. That's that.

Lori (43:32.522)
Right.

Wendy (43:35.042)
And her kids are grown now too. I mean, that's the other thing is her kids are grown. And then she said, I just think about, and she's starting to cry. She's like, just think about grandpa and grandma Strack are gonna have all these fabulous houses and the grandkids are gonna go there. And it's gonna be sad grandma Brown with my four dogs and my 18 cats. And Rachel's like, well, the 18 cats.

Lori (43:37.122)
yeah.

Kelli (43:58.424)
Sad Grandma Brown who gets 300 grand a month. Like I think you're okay, Grandma.

Wendy (44:02.466)
Yeah.

Lori (44:03.584)
You ain't that sad. You ain't that sad, Grammy.

Wendy (44:06.07)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (44:08.173)
I think you can still make for a very nice life for your grandchildren on 300 grand a month.

Wendy (44:14.626)
I mean, is that forever though? Is that till she dies? There's gotta be a time that that runs out.

Kelli (44:17.013)
I don't know. I don't know. Even if it's only for a couple of years, that's one point. No, that's $3.6 million a year. If you invest that properly, that's, know.

Wendy (44:34.754)
I think even if you invested improperly, you're still going to get like...

Kelli (44:35.053)
That's a lot of fucking money!

Exactly. Even if you got that for two years and you invested that in a good way, you're going to be set.

Wendy (44:50.51)
So I think she's going to do it. think now she is. think she's coming to the realization that, one, she's not getting Christian back, and two, that she probably needs to move forward. And maybe her changing her name is going to be what she needs to actually just move forward.

Lori (45:05.131)
Right.

Kelli (45:05.239)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (45:08.482)
And then next thing we see is Kyle and Alexia, they're looking for flowers for the wedding. I think that Alexia looks so much like Kyle. Like I think she's her mini-me. Of all her children, I think Alexia looks the most like her.

Kelli (45:17.889)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (45:23.916)
Yeah.

Wendy (45:25.486)
But she wants these colorful bohemian wild flowers. She said she wants ones that look like artichokes. I was like artichokes?

Kelli (45:33.259)
I loved that. I loved that. Because I think that that artichoke green looks so beautiful with pink. Right? Yeah.

Lori (45:37.056)
I know what she's talking about,

Lori (45:43.068)
yes.

Wendy (45:44.462)
yeah, that color? Yeah.

Kelli (45:48.706)
And then she did like a beautiful arrangement and then put one like big red flower in there. It really was pretty. How cute was that where she was like, well, I'm gonna bring this home and show, I forget her fiance, well, now husband's name, Jake, and because he gets the final approval. Like Eric had no fucking clue what, I carried red roses and my bridesmaids carried white roses. So there wasn't much to think about, but I never once gave Eric a,

Lori (45:55.456)
It was pretty, yeah.

Wendy (46:00.664)
Jake.

Yeah, I love that.

Kelli (46:18.09)
a choice of flowers.

Wendy (46:21.486)
And I'm sure he's fine with that. I'm sure he didn't want it.

Lori (46:23.008)
Yeah, he could tell.

Kelli (46:23.228)
He was so okay with that.

Lori (46:25.964)
So, okay, yeah. But you know, it's interesting because, like again, like I was saying with the words that people say, Kyle in her confessional was saying that she hopes, as you know, for her daughter's marriage, she hopes that they can trust each other.

Kelli (46:44.659)
that whole confessional Kyle gave, right? Was it a confessional or was she talking to somebody? It was a confessional, right? Yeah. It was very heartbreaking to watch. I just think that she's very hurt by what happened with her and Moe. I don't think she wanted any part of it. And I don't know what happened. I don't know if maybe he cheated for the last time and it was the...

Lori (46:49.066)
Yeah.

Wendy (46:49.43)
Yeah, it was a confessional.

Lori (47:10.4)
forced her hand.

Kelli (47:10.751)
straw that broke the camel's back. Yeah, like it just seems very, it was very sad to watch her because I don't think it's anything she wanted. She's not over it. It's been three years and it's hard to watch.

Lori (47:14.358)
we're starting now.

Lori (47:22.912)
But you can just tell in the things that she's saying in regards to her daughter's future marriage, it's all self-reflection. It's all things that, you know, like.

Wendy (47:32.796)
yeah.

Kelli (47:34.967)
Yeah.

Wendy (47:36.654)
Because she says we were happy. We were happy like Alexia and Jake. I hope they never lose that. I hope that they don't, I hope this doesn't happen. I hope they learn from our mistakes. She definitely is.

Lori (47:48.287)
Yes.

Kelli (47:49.9)
It's very difficult to sustain. mean, we all three of us have been married for a long time. I think we can all three honestly say that we're all in different places in our marriage that we were however long ago that we got married. It's not easy to sustain. Fortunately for us, we all three have, on wood, very loyal husbands, and we don't question that. so...

Wendy (48:02.158)
100%.

Lori (48:03.692)
I don't know. I don't know.

Kelli (48:16.525)
Not only is it not easy to sustain, but if you have a husband who steps out, which I truly believe Mo has, I think where there's smoke, there's fire, and there's been a lot of smoke over the years with him, what are you gonna do, you know?

Yeah, I feel bad for Kyle though.

Wendy (48:35.766)
And I think really what it was, and I could be wrong, is she has said this many times, that he's a salesman. He does a lot of events. He's out many nights doing events. And she would go with him many times, but you get to a point in your life where you just don't want to go out and put that smile on. And I know that she had that very difficult

I think this was really when it happened to her best friend died by suicide. And she didn't want to leave the house at all, let alone go to the house and party with her husband at the time who she didn't even feel was there for her emotionally or physically that, you know, I think this is the point where she said, let's just take a separation. Let's do this. What she thought was going to be a six month separation, because that's what she said. He was going to get an apartment. They were going to sit down and reevaluate it.

Kelli (49:27.914)
Yeah.

Wendy (49:32.546)
But that didn't happen. That just didn't happen. Right. Right. So, you know.

Lori (49:33.856)
No, it into three years.

Kelli (49:38.252)
Yeah. I think you're right. I think when that happened with her friend, and I truly believe that that was her best friend, and she must be questioning every conversation she ever had with that woman. Like, how did she not know that this woman was in such a terrible place? How did she not tell her? Like, I think that that was like life-changing for Kyle. And it didn't seem that he was there for her. And she verbally said,

Wendy (49:47.351)
Yes!

Kelli (50:07.117)
He was not there like he should have been for her, so.

Lori (50:10.252)
Right, and it probably made her question all her relationships. And if he was somebody who had stepped out before and made her feel like that, and then all of a sudden she's like in this place where she's questioning everything and she's just like, you know, and maybe something happened and he cheated again during that period and she was just like, I can't do this. And.

Kelli (50:27.681)
Yeah.

Kelli (50:33.847)
And if he's going out to events, he's already a very attractive man. He's already got that personality where he knows how to schmooze people. And now he's on a show. So now he's got people in his DMs. And she said, like, she said that there was like inappropriateness between he and women on his DMs. Like, you know, I always liked Mo, but you're clearly seeing a different side of him now. And

Lori (50:44.747)
Right.

Lori (50:48.267)
Right.

Wendy (50:50.084)
yeah.

Lori (51:02.112)
Right, clearly.

Kelli (51:03.089)
I give her a lot of credit because she's never gone off the show and up until the Morgan Wade thing, I think she's been very honest, even though I did think that their separation was for the storyline. I really did. And it's honestly because I thought that they were one of like the, I thought they were a great couple. And it was surprising to me that they would separate.

Wendy (51:33.098)
It's interesting because that's yet another thing that weighs on her is the fact that so many people had so much hope for them as a couple because she hears that all the time too. That if you and Moe could break up, what does that do for the rest of us? Because that's a lot of weight to carry on your shoulders as well. Like, you know, she didn't ask for that.

Kelli (51:43.423)
I'm sure, yeah.

Lori (51:52.878)
Well, when people put your relationship up on a pedestal and it falls over, you're looking for the glue.

Wendy (51:58.594)
Yeah.

Kelli (52:02.283)
My parents got divorced almost 30 years into their marriage. It was shocking to a lot of people, including us, my sisters. I've seen other divorces in our family after long, long marriages. And it is, it's like, why at this point? Your kids are grown, but I guess a lot of people think, yeah, my kids are grown. So I did my job, I raised my kids, I provided for my family.

Wendy (52:22.989)
Right.

Lori (52:29.322)
Right. Right.

Kelli (52:32.319)
and now it's time for me to do what I want.

Lori (52:34.826)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well, like you said, it's not an easy thing to sustain. It takes a lot of sacrifice. you know, it takes two people looking at something and saying, okay, we made a commitment. whether I want to stab a fork in your eye or not, you're still...

Wendy (52:35.234)
Right. Right.

Kelli (52:41.431)
not easy.

Wendy (52:43.16)
not.

Kelli (52:45.847)
for sure.

Lori (53:03.232)
You're still my best friend. I don't... Right. Right. I don't know that... Right.

Kelli (53:05.395)
Or whatever!

Wendy (53:06.99)
Even if you only have one eye.

Kelli (53:10.561)
HAHAHAHA

Lori (53:13.696)
But you know, like, couldn't hurt you that way because underneath everything, you're still my best friend. like, just couldn't. So, yes.

Kelli (53:14.263)
Exactly.

Wendy (53:14.496)
it

Kelli (53:25.122)
That's it.

I always think about that. Like if something happens, good or bad, Eric is still the first person I want to call and talk to about it. And I always think to myself, like, if that ever changes, I have to worry. But to this day, he's still the first person I want to talk to, whether it's good or bad.

Lori (53:47.306)
Right. So.

Kelli (53:48.171)
and then test.

Wendy (53:51.086)
You

Kelli (53:53.27)
I mean I could call Joe, but he's totally not gonna care what I have to say.

Unless it involves him, then he'll be all ears.

Lori (54:02.088)
And yeah, I wonder where he got that trait. I wonder what parenting got that trait from. Yeah. So like I said, I really enjoyed this episode.

Kelli (54:06.573)
Exactly.

Kelli (54:15.137)
Yeah, the Kyle confessional was hard to watch though. You really couldn't help but feel for her, honestly. I thought. I thought it was very genuine and sad.

Lori (54:20.722)
Absolutely.

Wendy (54:27.374)
So the only other thing that really happens is when Boz meets up with Amanda for lunch and she gets a little bit of her history before Dorit shows up and then they start trying to break down the whole PK and Dorit thing. I did think it was interesting that Dorit said that, know, he was, he was, he's an alpha male and he built a very big business in the UK. And when the world tilted on its access in 2008, I'm sorry, but

What? Did I miss something? Okay, but what? She didn't say what his big business was.

Kelli (54:58.701)
Well, there was a big like real estate crash.

Lori (55:05.844)
Who knows? Who knows?

Kelli (55:07.117)
I don't know, but I do remember it coming out. I remember when Camille Grammer was like, he owes people money. he did, I think he filed bankruptcy. Definitely, and I do remember 2008 was when everything blew up because banks were giving people mortgages that they shouldn't have been giving them. The fucking mortgage companies and the banks were to blame for that.

Wendy (55:07.575)
Right?

Wendy (55:13.932)
Yes.

Wendy (55:22.232)
So he.

Wendy (55:26.669)
Right.

Lori (55:26.934)
Thanks.

Lori (55:31.05)
absolutely. But the thing is, he's a house of cards kind of guy. So it doesn't take much of a wind to blow that whole shit show over, you know what I'm saying? I think that's just his gig.

Wendy (55:31.266)
Yes.

Kelli (55:35.213)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (55:36.728)
Yes.

Kelli (55:39.373)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (55:40.566)
Right, right.

Kelli (55:44.141)
100%.

Wendy (55:47.768)
Yeah, she said when they were married, there was no prenup because he had nothing. He had nothing.

Kelli (55:52.117)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, he was coming out of a bad business fallout. Yeah.

Wendy (55:56.257)
Right.

Lori (55:57.813)
Right. And you know, maybe it was a situation where maybe she asked a couple times, you know, what's our finances like? And he just blew her off and been like, you know, I'll take care of it. And then she had the kids and she was doing her stuff and didn't think about it.

Kelli (56:14.871)
He doesn't seem like the type of man that you can approach and be like, can we discuss what's going on in our finances? He doesn't seem like he'd be like, sure, let's sit down and have a discussion as a team.

Lori (56:30.122)
Yeah, No, my house, we do yearly check-in. Do yearly check-in. You know, I get.

Kelli (56:38.335)
In my house, I pay the bills and I tell Eric to stop acting like we have money that we do not. But Eric has access to the bank account and he can look and see whenever he wants what's going on.

Lori (56:44.0)
There you go. Yeah, so you.

Wendy (56:45.368)
That happens to my house too.

Lori (56:50.902)
Right, right, Yeah, so my husband does all the bills, which is fine, I don't give a shit. But, you know, every nine months, every 12 months, I look, I get all the numbers, I get everything together, we sit down, we are like, okay, we got this, we got this, we got this, this, we gotta pay, these are things we wanna do, this is coming in, this is going out, what do we do? And that works out fine.

Wendy (57:20.012)
That's good, and everyone has what works for them, right?

Kelli (57:20.567)
That's right. Exactly. As long as both parties think that it works for them.

Lori (57:22.348)
Everybody has something different. Absolutely.

Yep, then it's Yep.

Wendy (57:31.072)
And she did say for 14 years, PK has been paying the lion's share of the outgoing. So it's not like she was pulling it out of her pocket.

Lori (57:41.578)
Right. So that's what I said, like, you had kids, you're just like, whatever, he pays it.

Kelli (57:41.867)
Right. But the thing is, that, I mean, I don't know what boy-

Yeah, and I don't know what Boy George's schedule is like these days, but if he's still managing Boy George, he still has some kind of income. So, and I'm sure it's a nice income if it's based off of Boy George's income. It should be a percentage. So what are you doing with your money if you're not contributing to your children's expenses? Like, and that includes a roof over their head.

Lori (58:07.039)
But who knows?

Wendy (58:17.262)
But she did say he was paying the mortgage. She said he was paying the mortgage. Yes, and yeah, she said.

Kelli (58:17.739)
You know what I'd like to do?

Lori (58:21.642)
Yeah. Yeah. But, no, no, But when they first got separated, they went into pre foreclosure because he did stop paying it for a couple months.

Kelli (58:21.805)
Still?

Kelli (58:25.325)
Okay, well that's huge.

Wendy (58:33.708)
Right. Right.

Kelli (58:35.784)
that's right. It did. It did.

Lori (58:37.75)
So, you know.

Lori (58:42.156)
I'm just not a fan. I was a fan when it was on.

Kelli (58:43.937)
I'd like to talk to one of his older children.

or his ex-wife. Somebody reach out. We'd love to talk.

Wendy (58:58.338)
Alright, I guess that's pretty much it. I just want to, because it's almost an hour, real quick on Watch What Happens Live. Erica and Brooks Nader was on. Did you get to watch it at all?

Kelli (59:09.387)
I didn't, I literally watched this episode in like six increments, because I was so busy this week. So I did not get a chance to watch Watch What Happens Live.

Wendy (59:20.846)
So he announced that Erica is the second longest running housewife on Beverly Hills. Obviously, Kyle's the first. He did some poll questions. Should the women stop questioning Kyle if she wants a brother in Angelina? 83 % of the people said yes. Stop questioning her. Yes. Should Sutton destrac, which means change her name, and 93 % said yes.

Kelli (59:38.551)
Yeah, it's enough, it's enough.

Wendy (59:48.366)
Here was a weird one. Craig was on, I guess, the night before and he brought up Brooks Nader's name and the question was, should Craig and Brooks date? 87 % said no. Brooks didn't know who Craig was and Craig didn't really know who Brooks was either, so that would have been weird.

Kelli (01:00:03.415)
Who is Brooks?

Wendy (01:00:06.214)
She used to date Tom Brady. She's very pretty. She's got a reality show, Something Neater. I don't remember what it's called. She was on Dancing with the Stars. She also dated Gleb. Her and Erica had the same dancing partner on Dancing with the Stars. First impressions of Amanda, Andy asked.

Kelli (01:00:16.749)
I honestly don't know who she is. I'll have to look her up.

Wendy (01:00:35.438)
in three words asked Erica what her first impression of Amanda was in three words and her answer was no, no, no. I was like, shit. Yep, and it's interesting because I've been saying to you for whatever reason I don't like Amanda. I don't know what it is. It's just something about her. I just don't like it. And I guess Erica felt the same way.

Kelli (01:00:44.577)
Wow, first impressions?

Kelli (01:00:52.619)
Yeah, yeah, it's just your instinct.

Kelli (01:00:57.911)
She's not bothering me yet.

Lori (01:00:57.964)
Well, obviously, Eric doesn't either. interesting.

Wendy (01:01:03.118)
Find out that Erica's been dating this guy that she's dating for six months and they will be spending the holidays together. Erica thinks that Kyle will go back to Brad next time that this other thing was a one-off thing. So she's going back to men. And I do too. Is Kyle, he asked, is Kyle defending PK too much or is Dorit just giving her a hard time? And Erica's response was,

Kelli (01:01:09.26)
Nice.

Kelli (01:01:21.707)
I tend to agree, but whatever.

Wendy (01:01:32.366)
You're never gonna win, so just don't do it. Again, good, I thought really good answers. Yeah, just stop talking about it. Like, let's move on, right? So that was it for Beverly Hills, and I don't have anything else, unless you guys do.

Kelli (01:01:35.349)
Yeah, so stop defending him. Yeah.

Kelli (01:01:50.601)
I did just watch a clip, I guess Craig went on Dorinda and Kiki's podcast and Sally was brought up and he said, I look at Sally as like a sister, as a friend, you know, and that's it. And Dorinda said she wasn't very kind to me at BravoCon. She was on a bus, I guess, and she was talking to Madison and Sally was on the bus also and didn't talk to her.

And Dorinda said, I feel like she was more into her look and her Instagram. And Craig kind of laughed and he was like, yeah, I could see that. And Dorinda said something about her wearing sunglasses. And Craig started laughing and he was like, the sunglasses really bothered a lot of housewives. I guess Sally wore sunglasses the whole time during BravoCon. These are Southern charm people, Lord. So he's like, yeah, a lot of the housewives were like bent over the sunglasses, which I agree.

Lori (01:02:44.384)
Yeah, no, stop! Right, stop it.

Kelli (01:02:44.555)
You're in a fucking casino. Take the sunglasses off. It doesn't matter what time of day it is, you're in the middle of a casino for crying out loud. But I thought that was funny because Dorinda was like, I'm very friendly. And I could see that with Dorinda. Like I'm a very friendly person. I go out of my way to say hi to people and she was not friendly back. But Madison was of course.

Lori (01:02:53.034)
Right, you're not outside.

Wendy (01:03:06.422)
I could see that too. I could see that happening. Yeah.

Kelli (01:03:07.885)
Totally. Totally.

But yeah, that's it.

Wendy (01:03:12.174)
Okay, so until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe and give us five star reviews. Bye.

Kelli (01:03:20.247)
Bye.

Lori (01:03:21.163)
Bye.