RHOBH-A Bag of Dicks or a Bowl of Fruit

RHOBH-A Bag of Dicks or a Bowl of Fruit

RHOBH S15 E2 – “Bearing It All” Podcast Summary

This episode dives deep into vulnerability, broken relationships, and very exposed emotions—both literally and figuratively.

We open with Rachel Zoe at home with her son before he leaves for camp, reflecting on motherhood and fear. When Boz visits, their opposite personalities come into focus: Boz fears nothing, while Rachel admits she fears everything. Rachel opens up about her separation, navigating co-parenting, public scrutiny, and the sting of seeing her ex move on publicly without regard for their kids or shared business interests.

Boz and Rachel also discuss Kyle, questioning her insistence that she’s “not dating” and encouraging more openness in what they believe is a safe space.

Kyle visits Mo’s new house for the first time, clearly hurt that he leased it without discussing it with her, making reconciliation feel even farther away. While Mo casually asks about her dating life, Kyle downplays it—despite admitting in confession she has dated and prefers to stay private, unlike Mo. She also shares Dorit’s frustration over PK’s behavior influencing Mo’s choices.

Meanwhile, Sutton and Erika meet for facials in a surprising olive-branch moment. Erika opens up about her ongoing heartbreak over Tom, the lack of closure, and the heavy reality of his decline and imprisonment. Therapy has taught her that closure isn’t always given—you sometimes have to create it yourself. With civil lawsuits still pending, Erika admits she’s emotionally stuck.

Dorit, leaning heavily on her parents, shares the immense stress of PK leaving her to manage finances and parenting alone—without explanation or support. Her pain escalates when PK threatens to block the kids’ planned trip to Florida, clearly using it as a way to hurt her.

Wedding bells loom as Kyle shops for gifts with Alexia and Sutton, joined by new housewife Amanda, who recently bought Kyle’s old Bel Air home. Amanda introduces herself as the self-proclaimed “Money Queen,” author of Rich As Fck*, and shares her whirlwind love story—being chased down on the streets of West Hollywood. Her Birkin alone sets the tone.

The group gathers at Jennifer Tilly’s boho-chic “sip and draw” party, which quickly escalates when multiple nude male models appear. Fashion interpretations of “boho” wildly differ, reactions range from shock to delight, and Erika delivers the line of the night: “I’ll take a bag of dicks over a bowl of fruit any day.”

Amid laughter and sketches, tension erupts when Dorit breaks down over PK’s cruelty toward their children. The women rally around her—offering blunt advice, tough love, and validation—while Kyle feels her support is received differently than others’. The emotional weight of the moment underscores just how fractured Dorit truly is.

The episode closes with Kyle opening up to Erika about a secret relationship she had post-separation—one she deeply cared about but kept private out of respect. Gossip and speculation ultimately destroyed it. Kyle breaks down, admitting that while she’s always been open, this time it wasn’t just about her—and now, it’s over.

Transcript

Wendy (00:01.294)
Welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:04.434)
Kelly.

Lori (00:05.284)
and I'm Lori.

Wendy (00:07.48)
We are talking about Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, Season 15, Episode Number 2, Bearing It All. I don't like that name.

Lori (00:18.831)
You don't like the name after the models and the...

Wendy (00:23.168)
Yeah, I don't like it.

Kelli (00:23.727)
okay. I only watched half of the episode, so I wasn't sure about the reference. But you'll explain.

Lori (00:29.561)
Yeah, we'll tell you. We will.

Wendy (00:29.613)
Yeah.

Yes, we will explain. So we start out at Rachel's house and she's talking to her son before he leaves for camp. Then we go, actually then Bo's comes over to Rachel's house and Bo's and Rachel's are outside talking and they're talking about Kyle and bringing up about how she's not dating yet. And right, she said she's not dating.

Kelli (00:57.255)
or she said she's not dating.

Wendy (01:01.812)
And Rachel and Boz are kind of talking about how they are so opposite as people, Rachel and Boz. Boz is afraid of nothing and Rachel is afraid of everything in that respect, which I thought that's interesting. I didn't see Rachel as afraid of everything. I didn't see her as that kind of person. I mean, I definitely see Boz as not afraid of anything kind of person, but I didn't get that vibe from her.

But she loves the freedom of not having to ask for anything now that, you know, her ex is her ex, like he's out of the house. I don't think their divorce is finalized yet, right?

Kelli (01:27.922)
Yeah.

Lori (01:37.669)
Yeah.

Kelli (01:37.933)
No, they're just separated, but it was interesting to hear her talk about how she, it almost sounded like when she said Jekyll and Hyde, if she would ask him a question, she never knew what she was getting.

Wendy (01:48.726)
Right, Yeah.

Lori (01:49.145)
what she was getting, yeah. And I, by the way, I love her bathroom. I love when they were showing the scenes from her home, her home's beautiful, but I loved her bathroom, so awesome.

Kelli (01:59.793)
Her whole house is gorgeous.

Wendy (02:01.666)
Yeah. Well, I don't remember what her bathroom looked like. What did it look like? Was it white?

Lori (02:05.843)
it's beautiful. Just nice and big and yeah, nice and big and white and bright and it's beautiful. I loved it. And I'm loving, I'm loving all the gowns, you know, like in their opening. No, I mean in the opening scene for Beverly Hills when they all the, know, just that opening scene when they have all their gowns on, they just really look good. I like them.

Wendy (02:12.619)
Okay.

Wendy (02:16.248)
That's your style.

Kelli (02:17.715)
Yeah, that's our shtick.

Uh-oh.

Kelli (02:26.983)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (02:28.742)
you know what, speaking of opening, they did their taglines. You know what, I have them here, so I'm gonna go through them for us if you don't mind. Kyle's was, in this town of stars, in this town stars come and go, but diamonds last forever. I think that one's actually good. No? Okay.

Lori (02:32.322)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (02:32.614)
They did.

Lori (02:49.688)
Alright.

Kelli (02:50.277)
I mean, it's just odd that she would say that when she's going through a divorce and you get diamonds when you get married, so... Do diamonds last forever?

Wendy (02:56.738)
Well, she means diamonds because that's what they hold. They hold diamonds in Beverly Hills though.

Kelli (03:03.507)
Yeah, mean, diamonds represent marriage, you know, or engagement and I know. I thought it was odd that she said that.

Lori (03:03.621)
yeah, maybe that's a deal.

Wendy (03:10.798)
All right, all right. And I didn't even think, I mean, I didn't take it for marriage. thought diamonds do last forever and they hold diamonds. And Sutton's was, I might live on a main road, but I definitely bring main character energy. No, you don't. She has, no, no. Supporting cast, right. Bo's was, I turn ambition into art.

Kelli (03:16.797)
Yeah.

Kelli (03:23.942)
No you don't.

You don't even bring like, friend of energy. I don't even know why you're here.

Lori (03:30.827)
Okay.

Wendy (03:39.2)
into an art form and I am the masterpiece. I didn't get that one either.

Kelli (03:44.785)
Yeah, it's no good.

Wendy (03:47.575)
Erica's was, survival isn't my story, it's my superpower. I actually kind of like that one.

Lori (03:54.563)
Yeah, I don't mind that one.

Wendy (03:58.156)
Doritze, I'm unfiltered, unbothered, and finally unburdened. Listen, I don't know that anything Doritze says is going to be OK with me because I'm really not liking her this season or last season. So no, I'm not. I'm not. What are your thoughts on that one?

Kelli (04:11.431)
You're not feeling her,

Lori (04:11.557)
You know, I think.

Lori (04:15.855)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (04:16.915)
How, how,

Lori (04:20.335)
Who? Me?

Wendy (04:21.642)
Anybody. Either. Anybody out there that I'm talking to.

Lori (04:25.731)
Any, and I'll take an answer from anybody.

I'm kind of on the fence about Dorit, you know, because I'm not as far into... I haven't watched the show as long as you guys have, so I only have... What's this, my second season watching it? So I don't... You know what I mean? I'm still trying to get like the feel of it. I don't know. We'll see.

Wendy (04:47.544)
Yeah.

Kelli (04:52.915)
I am not bothered by Dory at all. I am here for her and the fact that she won an award at BravoCon for her scene smoking the cigarette in the car and got up on stage to accept her award and lit a cigarette while she did so. Huge fucking fan. Huge fan.

Lori (05:08.941)
Yeah, Kelly's like, okay, we could be friends. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (05:15.894)
Okay, I will say that that was iconic. Okay, I'll get.

Lori (05:18.277)
Yes, no, definitely. Yeah. But I would say I kind of like I see her for what she is. Like, bet you she can be like a real pain in the ass. You know, I bet she can be whiny. I bet she can be bratty and everything else. But it just it doesn't it doesn't necessarily bother me. It's all right. You know, it's.

Kelli (05:19.233)
Like, seriously iconic.

Wendy (05:21.614)
Absolutely, I absolutely would give her that.

Kelli (05:46.077)
think that PK was the problem in that marriage. So I'm rooting for Dorit. I think he was a big fucking problem.

Lori (05:52.077)
Yeah, I definitely think he was the problem, you know, there's always the truth is always lies somewhere in the middle. You know, I'm sure that, you know, she had a lot of faults too. You know, it takes two to tango. takes, you know, and there's shit that happens that if you let stuff go for too long and just sweep it under the rug and all of sudden you can just become this really bitter angry.

Kelli (05:59.729)
Yeah, somewhere in the middle. Yeah.

Lori (06:22.021)
person and doesn't make the other person who's involved right. But you know what I'm trying to say? There's just, there's just like, it's, it's somewhere in the middle. It's somewhere in the middle. Um.

Kelli (06:31.976)
Yeah.

Wendy (06:32.704)
No, I do. I know what you're trying to say. Yeah.

Wendy (06:39.468)
Okay, the next one is Rachel Zoe. die for fashion, but now I'm living for me. That one I like.

Lori (06:39.566)
Yeah, so we'll see.

Lori (06:47.511)
I liked that, that was good, that was good. Yeah.

Kelli (06:47.857)
I like that. I like that.

Wendy (06:51.086)
Amanda Francis, I didn't marry into money, I manifested it. Don't like it. Don't like her. You do? Okay. Yes.

Kelli (06:58.895)
I like that one. Yeah, you don't like it? She's the money queen.

Lori (07:02.115)
Well, she's supposedly the money queen. So I'm going to read her book and then I'll let you know. You can tell I'll be able to tell by her book what her gig is, what her gig is. But I love when Rachel was talking to Boze and was saying how, you know, when her husband was in public with someone else four months into their separation, you know.

Wendy (07:08.567)
Okay.

Kelli (07:08.719)
I was thinking the same thing.

Wendy (07:11.661)
Okay.

Kelli (07:13.169)
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.

Lori (07:32.729)
that it's making her think that he's struggling mentally. Because really, you know, she says, are you okay? Like, are you unwell? Like, why would you behave that way? And, you know, she's really right, because that is kind of a fucked up behavior when you have small children. So, I don't know, I kinda like how she said that.

Kelli (07:55.988)
Well, and it's not like they weren't together for a long time. They were together for a long time before they had kids. So it's like, what are you doing? Like we were together this whole time, then we decided to have children. We have children and now you're doing a 180. So it is a valid question. It's not like they met and got pregnant and married and you you didn't know this person all that well.

Lori (08:03.053)
Right, right, right.

Right.

Lori (08:15.503)
Right.

All

Lori (08:25.315)
Right, you had a long time to know how it was gonna be. And like she says, hide, like don't. It's just that in your, I mean the same thing really with PK, when he has small children. mean Moe is one thing, his kids are adults. But with PK and now with Rachel's, to me that's the.

Kelli (08:28.603)
Yeah.

Kelli (08:34.451)
Hmm.

Kelli (08:45.329)
Right, I agree.

Kelli (08:55.527)
Yeah, when you got little kids.

Lori (08:55.937)
It's douchey. It's douchey.

Wendy (08:58.732)
No, I totally agree with you. And I actually don't like the fact that everyone is comparing Kyle and Mo's situation with theirs because they're two totally separate situations because that's one of the things Rachel is saying. And even Bo is like, how would you be? Well, you can't compare the two. You can't compare the two. And it's not really fair to compare the two. That's my thought on it.

Kelli (09:09.544)
Right.

Lori (09:11.807)
yeah.

Lori (09:17.167)
Right.

Lori (09:23.074)
No, it's not. Yeah.

Wendy (09:28.472)
The next thing we see is Kyle goes over to Moe's new house and this is the first time she's there and she brings him towels again. Well, she brings him towels and then they cut to the scene where last season she asked him about towels because Portia said he only had eight towels. He goes, well, I only need one. Right. But that's a typical mom thing. That's a typical mom thing. You know what I mean? That's totally typical.

Lori (09:44.389)
Yeah, what does he need? It's a guy. What does he need? Guy. Those eight towels will ask him for like the next 50 fucking years. know, but how?

Kelli (09:49.927)
Right. Right.

Lori (09:55.008)
yeah, yeah, bring it in. Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (09:56.628)
Yeah, but why is she bringing him towels? Like, let him go buy his own fucking towels.

Wendy (10:00.088)
because she thinks it's important. Because he won't, because he's a guy. Well, she said when she gave him the black one, she's like, these are for the girls. Don't let your hoes use them.

Kelli (10:04.314)
Alright, so what do you care?

Lori (10:06.852)
Well...

Kelli (10:13.255)
Yeah, I mean, yeah.

Lori (10:14.137)
But you know what, I would imagine Kelly that I think that in the end, she still has feelings for him. And if he said, let's get back together, he would be like, okay. So I would imagine just like any teenager, she'll make up any excuse in the world to be able to go see him. But what an ouch when she said that.

Kelli (10:22.321)
Yeah, she wants him back. Yeah.

Kelli (10:34.6)
That's true.

Lori (10:39.499)
he leased that condo for six months and then they were gonna talk and how he never even checked in and just, God, that's an ouch. That's like.

Kelli (10:45.873)
Yep. Got the house. Yeah.

Wendy (10:49.218)
Yeah, and she's being honest because honestly, I think that, you know, she hasn't ruled out getting back together with him. And I keep saying that, like, I think that's one of the reasons that there is not a divorce filing because I don't think that that's really what she ultimately wants. Think she's giving him.

Kelli (11:01.233)
Yeah, yeah.

Lori (11:01.861)
You're right.

Kelli (11:05.649)
Yeah, no, I definitely think she wants to get back together with him, And would, given the opportunity.

Wendy (11:09.418)
Yeah, think she's, right, I think she's giving him time to explore. She's exploring herself, but you know, that's where she stands with it. And I don't think there's anything wrong with that, to be honest with you. I really don't.

Lori (11:09.603)
Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (11:20.429)
Yeah, no. But Kyle's face when Moe asked her about her own dates. She made that face.

Kelli (11:20.593)
No.

Wendy (11:26.634)
Yeah. I think she handled it. I think she handled it fine. I like how she puts him in his place.

Lori (11:32.291)
yeah, I like how she told him I would never be in a situation like you.

Kelli (11:37.095)
Yeah, because really she's like, yeah, you know, I have gone on dates, but I'm not, you know, and who knows if it's true or not, but the good thing for her is that because she's not out in the public doing it, it doesn't matter if it's true or not.

Wendy (11:37.389)
Right.

Wendy (11:42.156)
Right. I'm not flaunting it.

Lori (11:42.446)
Right, right.

Lori (11:52.357)
Right. And I like how she told him to shut up when he started talking about dating and passion. He's like, shut up. Ew. I would be the same way. no, I don't want to know about you. I don't know. I don't want to know about your passion with anybody else. No, that's, it's gross. Stop it.

Kelli (11:58.388)
Yeah, like yeah for sure for sure

Wendy (12:11.854)
No, I agree. I was surprised to see the next scene where Sutton and Erica are meeting up to get facials together. And I was even more surprised that Erica invited Sutton. I thought for sure it was the other way around, to be quite honest with you. Because Erica is not usually the olive branch giver.

Kelli (12:22.661)
Exactly. Me too. Me too.

Lori (12:24.419)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (12:30.285)
Yeah, yeah. Just one more thing about, Kyle and Moe. Yeah. It was just amazing when Moe said, he doesn't think PK's angry at all. Well, of course not. Of course not. He's doing, yeah. Who does he have to be angry about? No. So, no, he's out there chasing tail. But I was just like, what a dumb thing to say.

Kelli (12:31.313)
No, not at all.

Wendy (12:35.896)
Kyle and Mo.

Kelli (12:45.017)
Exactly. He's out doing whatever the fuck he wants. What's he got to be angry about? He's not home with his kids. He's not seeing Jagger cry.

Wendy (12:52.385)
No.

Kelli (12:56.616)
Yeah.

Wendy (12:56.707)
Yeah.

Wendy (13:01.784)
Yep. So Erica said,

to Sutton, you and Dorique got along well the other day. And Sutton's like, listen, I feel for her. I wanna give her some grace because of what she's going through. Because Sutton had a divorce when her children were about the same ages. And so she knows what it's like to, I mean, not in the same way because she happened to have a very wealthy husband on like broke PK, but the feelings and the emotions are still the same. Yeah.

Lori (13:24.919)
Yeah, she gets it.

Lori (13:32.069)
All

Kelli (13:34.426)
Exactly.

Lori (13:36.631)
are still the same, yeah. And what a great.

Kelli (13:39.357)
By the way, I looked up Sutton's ex. What a dweeb. Ugh. What a dweeb. A rich fucking dweeb, but what a dweeb.

Lori (13:43.999)
Do we be looking?

Wendy (13:44.27)
Mm-mm.

Lori (13:47.917)
Well, the dreams. but what a great confessional look for Sutton. She's really got it with that black outfit and those big earrings. I was like, OK, Sutton, like, I see you. You made a good move. And I'm just saying that because the fashion icon.

Kelli (13:56.305)
I totally agree with you.

Kelli (14:02.159)
Yes, I totally agree with you and.

Kelli (14:09.043)
100%, but also I love her look in the opening with that long sequins skirt.

Lori (14:16.461)
listen, I have something to say about that. I'm going to look it up. I'm going to look it up while you do it. I think that dress.

Kelli (14:19.29)
I love that.

Lori (14:26.757)
So keep talking and I'll look it up.

Wendy (14:29.902)
All right, Sutton says to Erica, you know, I know you're over Tom, you're over everything with Tom and Erica's like, I'm not over it. She's like, I'm heartbroken. know, like imagine knowing that the person you've been married to and like who you've been with for so long and to see him walk out of a court like that and to know that he's gonna die in prison. Like you don't get over that.

You don't. I, listen, I agree with her. totally agree with her. And.

Kelli (14:59.005)
Yeah.

He was sentenced on his 86th birthday for seven years.

Lori (15:04.557)
Yeah, how messed up is that?

Wendy (15:06.434)
Yeah.

Kelli (15:08.261)
I mean, how the mighty can fall, huh? And I was surprised to hear that she's still included in civil cases.

Lori (15:10.693)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (15:18.496)
I'm not, because they're still legally married. I mean, she's not gonna be, she's not gonna be not married to him until he's dead. Because there's no divorce gonna happen.

Kelli (15:26.641)
Yeah.

Kelli (15:31.003)
No, no, because he's incompetent, right? Like he's in prison, but he's in, yeah, yeah, she can't.

Wendy (15:32.908)
So, right, right. Yeah. But she said that, you know, she said she thought about visiting him, but she's like, I don't even know. Like, would he even want to see me? Like, would he know who I am? Like, is he going to say something magical that's going to like make me be okay about this? And she's like, you know, going through therapy, you know, I've now realized that some closure has to happen from yourself. You can't get it.

Lori (15:47.908)
Right?

Lori (15:53.31)
No.

Wendy (16:01.282)
from anywhere else. And I'm glad that she at least is in that place. I mean, it's very sad. I think it's a very sad situation. I do.

Kelli (16:02.578)
Now.

Lori (16:09.477)
Oh yeah, definitely. So there was a post and it said Sutton Strack wears the most expensive gown in shows history following home burglary. The dress is $150,000. That dress that she's wearing in the opening. It ain't no, no, no, no, no, definitely not worth that. And

Kelli (16:09.659)
It is.

Kelli (16:25.939)
That dress that she's wearing in the opening? Well, I like it, but I don't know if it's worth 150k.

Wendy (16:35.842)
That's crazy!

Lori (16:37.093)
Yeah, isn't that crazy? I'm not a fan of Erica's confessional look.

Kelli (16:43.239)
I don't remember it. I remember Sutton's though, cause I remember thinking the same thing. yeah. No, I don't like that.

Lori (16:44.815)
she has on a big hat and then the dress with the E, it looked like was made of like bubblegum wrappers. I didn't like it.

Wendy (16:48.275)
the hat, the hat.

Wendy (16:56.046)
I don't like when they wear hats and confessionals. It's too distracting.

Kelli (16:56.573)
Nah, me too. Totally agree.

Lori (16:59.565)
Yeah, well, I'm sure we'll see it again.

Kelli (17:03.473)
Yeah.

Wendy (17:03.792)
yeah, we will. Only you're allowed so many confessional looks, they have to recycle them.

Lori (17:06.873)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (17:09.646)
So then after that, go ahead.

Lori (17:11.533)
And how about when, how about when Doreen says that PK is not giving her any money?

Wendy (17:18.518)
Yeah, so that happens when we see her talking to her mom and dad. So next we see her talking to her mom and dad and she's happy that her parents were there for her because she really needed that support, right? And that we find out her parents are going to take the kids back to Florida with them. And she keeps saying that she's really worried about Jagger, specifically Jagger because he's not himself.

Lori (17:21.676)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (17:22.311)
Yeah.

Wendy (17:46.974)
after everything that's gone on, you know, he's not even asking for his father, he's asking for his grandfather, which that is very telling. That is very telling.

Lori (17:55.021)
Right. most definitely. Yes.

Kelli (17:57.085)
That speaks volumes, yeah.

Wendy (18:01.652)
And she also says that they've never had a conversation about like what PK is paying for, what he's not paying for. She'll just get a phone call from his business manager and say, this needs to get paid. So she had to get her own business manager. She had to get her own attorney. She was used to him taking care of everything. And well, listen, I get that, but to go from him taking care of everything to now you have to figure it all out yourself, plus raise these two children with zero help financially and emotionally.

Lori (18:18.926)
Right.

Kelli (18:29.619)
And without a conversation, like without a conversation. And where the fuck is Boy George in all this? Boy George could step in at this point and help out a little bit. Aren't you like close with PK's kids? You're so close with them. Don't you wanna see them taken care of?

Lori (18:31.533)
Right. Right.

Wendy (18:33.206)
Right! Right.

Lori (18:47.161)
Who knows? Who knows? People get weird in situations like that. You know? People get weird.

Kelli (18:51.379)
Yeah.

Wendy (18:57.088)
Next thing we see is Kyle's with Alexia and they're gonna go registering for wedding gifts and Sutton's gonna meet them there, but, cause Kathy's out of town. Normally Kathy would do that. When I find, I didn't see the name of the store.

Kelli (19:06.909)
Where were they, did they say?

Lori (19:09.197)
Yeah, I forget the name of the store, but I remember Kyle said that she went there and maybe her mother went there or something. It was like some place that everybody goes. They did say the name, but I just didn't pay any attention. They did say the name.

Kelli (19:16.327)
and her sisters. It's like a tradition, but they never really said the name of the store. okay. Okay.

Wendy (19:18.166)
Yeah, it's the place.

Wendy (19:24.332)
Yeah, I didn't pay attention either. I was shocked to hear that the wedding is less than eight weeks away and one she's just registering and the only thing they have locked down is the rabbi. What?

Kelli (19:34.686)
Yeah, like no venue, no dress, no, like what are we doing? But I guess when you have so much money, well yeah, invitation should have gone out eight weeks prior. Well yeah, that's true. But I guess when you have all this money, like you can just throw it together and when you're Kyle Richards daughter, if you know, you get an invitation, you're gonna make it happen so you can go.

Lori (19:38.454)
That's crazy.

Wendy (19:40.042)
No invitations? mean invitations should... I don't get it.

But not if you don't have a venue!

Lori (19:49.198)
Right, there you go.

Lori (20:03.981)
I guess. I guess. All I know is $30,000 for a pocketbook is just stupid. It's just stupid. No matter how you slice it, dice it, even if I had the dough, it just makes no, no, no sense. No sense.

Kelli (20:04.509)
to the wedding, right?

Kelli (20:14.513)
I couldn't agree with you more.

Kelli (20:21.639)
Yep, I couldn't agree with you more, and I like my bags.

Wendy (20:28.844)
Okay, Sutton's was 32,000, Kyle's was 30, Amanda's was 14. I think that that is an astronomical number for a bag and I am a bag person. love bags, I love, love bags.

Lori (20:31.693)
Yes. Right. Right.

Lori (20:42.305)
I love Bay, I love a good bay too. I love beautiful things. I love beautiful things, but it's stupid.

Kelli (20:46.259)
Stupid though. Stupid.

Wendy (20:46.446)
I would have probably at some point if I had the money bought a Birkin. I'm gonna say that. But now, since I've watched Bethany do all her Furkens and how she got rid of all her Birkens and how she likes her Furkens better than her Birkens. No, I'm getting myself a good Furkin if I want one. That's what I'm getting. That is what I'm getting.

Lori (21:07.791)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (21:09.361)
I mean, it's a

Exactly. Like, it's just fucking stupid.

Lori (21:15.397)
Yeah, it is stupid.

Wendy (21:15.798)
It is, it is, I agree with you. I'm changed though. If honestly, if I didn't see Bethany, I really like Bethany though and I really respect her. And I think that, you know, I think that she makes very smart business decisions and the fact that she could course correct and, you know, say, listen, I bought these, but they're not worth it. It's dumb. I'm not doing this anymore. I'm gonna get rid of all these real ones. Yeah. Yeah. she got rid of them. She's got rid of them. If she didn't sell them.

Kelli (21:24.914)
Me too.

Lori (21:36.229)
All All right.

Kelli (21:36.275)
Right. Right. And didn't she sell her some of hers?

Lori (21:40.035)
Yeah.

Wendy (21:43.72)
she donated them or guac-shin them off or whatever she did. She got rid of them and she does not use them. She uses her furkins. And I just saw a TikTok of her the other day. She's like, I can't tell you, I like this furkin way better than any of the burkins I had. And I'm gonna look that one up and I'm probably gonna get one.

Kelli (21:57.97)
It's just a stupid thing to spend so much money on. You should not spend the cost of a car on a bag.

Lori (22:01.155)
It's stupid. It's not what I'm saying. It's just stupid. No! Stop! You're putting your lipstick in there. Your lipstick in your wallet. Stop it! Stop it! Yeah, it's crazy.

Wendy (22:06.518)
No, no, you're right. You're right. You shouldn't.

Kelli (22:08.307)
That's crazy. Right, exactly.

Wendy (22:15.566)
So then we meet Amanda, that's when the Birkins walk in, and she says that she's getting married on 10-10-26, and she's found the venue and that's all she's done. And Sutton's like, well, forget about the venue, how'd you find the man? And she said, well, she was walking down the street and he chased her down. She was walking down the street in West Hollywood. She's like, West Hollywood? And she walked past this very handsome man and...

Lori (22:31.653)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (22:43.948)
She got to the corner and he caught up with her. She was with her girlfriend and he started this witty banter with her. And next thing she knows, he was buying her a drink, which I thought that was a very sweet love story, a sweet chance meeting. And that's when we find out that she's best known for her bestselling book, Rich as F-U-C-K. And it helps women redefine their relationship with money and manifest more into their lives.

Kelli (22:56.851)
Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (23:13.731)
Like I said, I think I'm gonna read it. I think I'm gonna read it.

Kelli (23:16.017)
I think I'm gonna read it too.

Wendy (23:16.278)
Yeah. And that gave her the name the Money Queen. She's from Sand Spring, Oklahoma, because she asked Sutton, like, where are you from when she started to hear Sutton, her accent. And that's when they start talking about like, Jennifer Tilly is having this party and it's boho chic. And they're not really sure, but it's a sit in a chair party. It's like a sit in a chair.

Sorry, it's so funny.

Kelli (23:45.221)
I like those kinds of parties. I like a sit in the chair party instead of a let's do these 25 activities parties.

Lori (23:46.553)
those kinds of parties. yeah.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Wendy (23:52.719)
So.

Kelli (23:54.387)
You

Lori (23:56.879)
I thought it was funny how like Alexia really didn't want to hang out with them.

Wendy (24:01.784)
I don't think she wanted to be in the scene. Like, she didn't need to be there. Right? Well, I mean, that way they could have their conversation.

Lori (24:03.877)
No, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Wendy (24:10.648)
She was just the vehicle to get them all together. Right? Then we see them all getting ready. Is this where they're getting ready?

Lori (24:12.814)
Yes.

Kelli (24:13.081)
Exactly. Yep. Yep.

Kelli (24:23.773)
Well, and Lyle, yeah, they have a moment. That's when I had to stop watching.

Wendy (24:25.932)
looking for her brush, Leo.

Wendy (24:33.728)
So first she's looking for her brush and Leia walks in and she's like, there's my brush. And I thought to myself, because Leia was like, it's way better than mine. I'm like, if your mother's brush is better than yours, why doesn't your mother just buy you the same brush?

Lori (24:48.525)
Because the term out because you don't have girls, Wendy, because that's what they do. They like to take your shit. They they use. Right. But they but they use your stuff like she probably likes it because it's her mother's. Yeah, girls are weird like that. Yeah, girls are weird like that, like weirdly sentimental, like kind of like that. Yeah, I think that's.

Kelli (24:48.56)
Exactly.

Wendy (24:54.594)
No, but I have, I have Matty. I have Matty. He takes my shit all the-

Kelli (25:01.747)
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (25:02.252)
You think? really?

Okay.

Okay, so then give her that brush and get your own. Buy one for yourself. That way you're not looking for it when you want to brush your hair. I don't know. That's just me. But then she's doing her daughter's hair and she said that she likes to do her daughter's hair because they get to talk, which I think that's so nice. Let me ask you guys this. Do you guys ever sit there and do your daughter's hair?

Kelli (25:14.045)
Bye.

Lori (25:16.623)
Could do that. There you go. Yeah.

Kelli (25:29.009)
Yeah. Yes.

Lori (25:35.577)
Yeah, I do. Yeah, Kayla sometimes asks me to put it up in rollers or just to, you know, sometimes we'll just mess around with each other's hair. And yeah, we just we do stuff like that stuff.

Kelli (25:36.082)
now.

Wendy (25:46.028)
You never, you never, like you never, never?

Kelli (25:48.027)
I mean, when Tess needs a glaze, done. Of course, I'm her girl, but yeah. No, but we definitely share like products. We share all the stuff.

Lori (25:50.432)
Yeah, of course. You're her girl. Yeah.

Wendy (25:53.666)
She never like asked you to curl her hair?

Hmm, that's interesting. was just wondering. She'll tell you. Yeah. I think I would like that. I would like someone to do my hair and to do someone else's hair. I've never, you know, I am going to teach Maddie how to do my hair though. And he does sit there while I'm doing it. And he likes to take the hot rollers out.

Kelli (26:01.499)
If she finds a good product, she tells me about it. know, yeah.

Lori (26:11.277)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (26:15.545)
There you go. That's good.

Lori (26:20.537)
There you go. So there you go.

Wendy (26:25.358)
So, Lael's talking about, Bo says, know, how are things going with you and Keely? And we find out that they've been getting close, like they've been traveling together, the three of them. And she's like, you know, she thinks that they're good together, the two of them are good together. But then she says, I feel like, you know, when he's proposing, Bo's is like, proposing? well, I want him to ask me first. She's like, you like.

you're my dad?" And she's like, yeah, I actually think she's 100 % right. I think he should ask her.

Lori (26:56.066)
yeah. most definitely.

Kelli (26:58.363)
Yeah, I mean, I think that's a thing that a lot of people do. Normally, I think it's more when people have younger kids, but whatever. I mean, you know, he doesn't have his own children, so I think it's a very sweet thing for him to do to include her.

Lori (27:01.754)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (27:02.122)
Right, but I don't think they all do.

Wendy (27:09.303)
Yeah, no, I-

Wendy (27:18.188)
Yes, I agree. I agree.

Kelli (27:22.395)
Especially since her father passed away like he really would be the man in her life now So I think it's a nice thing. Yeah

Lori (27:27.855)
Mm-hmm. Yep.

Wendy (27:28.875)
definitely. Definitely.

And she's still young. mean, what is she 16 or 17? She's still, yeah, she's still young. mean.

Lori (27:35.301)
16.

Kelli (27:35.507)
16, 16. Yeah.

Wendy (27:40.792)
Then we see Erica's getting ready and...

Wendy (27:47.438)
She's just talking they're gonna paint and draw and she's not really sure. then Rachel says when she's getting her makeup done, the makeup artist said, there gonna be a naked man there? She's like, I hope not, I hope not. I guess she had no idea. I thought that was so funny that the makeup artist even said that.

Kelli (28:07.025)
I mean, was there any indication prior to that? Like, why would she even ask that?

Wendy (28:10.57)
No, no, maybe.

Lori (28:13.283)
because it's a produced show.

Kelli (28:15.559)
Right, because you really knew the answer.

Lori (28:19.244)
Mm, yeah.

Wendy (28:20.992)
Okay, there's that. Dorit was getting ready and her people said to her, are you really gonna wear that? She had a Labooboo bracelet. She's like, yeah, what's wrong with my Labooboo? But I don't think she wore it because she didn't show up with it on. Yeah. Do you know what that is?

Lori (28:35.385)
Yes, yes, yes.

Lori (28:39.587)
Yeah, I know what that is.

Wendy (28:41.176)
Kelly, do you know what that is?

Kelli (28:42.119)
What is it? Labooboo?

Wendy (28:44.226)
Yeah, you don't know.

Lori (28:45.005)
It's like a little stuffed animal doll thing. It's probably her daughters.

Wendy (28:48.598)
Yeah. No, no, it's probably hers. Kathy Hilton has them. Kathy Hilton has Pop Mart come to her house. Well, hers happens to be a bracelet, but they're little like bagged. People are putting them on their Birkins and they're putting them on their Louis Vuitton's and they're putting them on. Yeah. yes. yeah. Jeff Lewis. Jeff. yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jeff Lewis, Cynthia Bailey, Krystal Minkoff. no, it's a thing. It's a thing. Yeah.

Kelli (28:54.343)
And it's a bracelet?

Kelli (29:04.453)
Adults are doing this?

Lori (29:04.464)
yeah, that's foolishness. That's foolishness. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it.

Lori (29:17.126)
People got too much time in their heads.

Kelli (29:19.601)
I swear to God this fucking world is... I don't even recognize it anymore.

Wendy (29:20.076)
Yep. And it's.

Lori (29:21.675)
She's like woo woo crazy. Nope nope nope.

Wendy (29:25.646)
So there's the real ones that are made by Pop Mart. They're called the Boo-Boos. And then there's a ton of fake ones, like there is everything, and they're called Lefoo-Foo's. Yeah, it's a real thing.

Kelli (29:27.217)
I really don't.

Kelli (29:36.603)
And how much do these LeBubu's cost, dare I ask?

Wendy (29:39.648)
I mean, they're very expensive. And when I say very expensive, you can't, they, Pop Mart drops them when they drop them. And if you don't get them, you don't get them. And so they're like resold in the secondary market for 500 to a thousand dollars. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Kelli (29:42.331)
Of course they are.

Lori (29:56.805)
Stop it.

Kelli (29:57.117)
my God, these people really have nothing better to do. Do they know that there are like starving people in this country?

Lori (30:00.865)
That's what I

Wendy (30:03.912)
wait, and there's more. There's more to it. They're blind. They're blind bags. So don't even know which one you're getting. Yes, I know. Yes, yeah. Yes, so then we see at Jennifer's house, Nick, the party planner is there. That's the same party planner that was at Sutton's house.

Kelli (30:11.75)
I can't.

Lori (30:12.997)
That's it.

Kelli (30:14.427)
I really can't.

Lori (30:16.687)
Foolishness.

Lori (30:24.675)
Yeah, I saw that he was getting around. He's having a good year.

Kelli (30:25.828)
interesting. Yeah, no shit.

Wendy (30:26.998)
Yep. Yep. Yep.

Yes, and Jennifer has an assistant there also. Jeff is her assistant. And she also admits, which I was very surprised to hear, Jennifer Tilly is a little intimidated on how super cool Rachel Zoe is. I was like, Jennifer Tilly is intimidated. Like that really surprised me.

Kelli (30:53.661)
Well, what's interesting is that Rachel has admitted that she's scared of everything and that she lives in a state of anxiety.

Lori (31:01.529)
Right.

Wendy (31:01.836)
Right. Yes. Yeah.

Kelli (31:02.769)
Right? And then Jennifer Tilly, I didn't see it, but then she's saying how, I mean, not that people who live in a state of anxiety cannot be cool, but it's almost like she's giving like a, you know, it's like the biggest misconception about Eric, like, he's so laid back. I'm like, but he's not. So it's almost like the same thing, right?

Wendy (31:12.173)
Right.

Lori (31:19.237)
Well, look, it's like Wendy said when we first talked about it that she thought that Rachel Zoe had this like really Zen thing about her. And maybe that's how she appears to everyone else. But maybe internally, she is totally not Zen.

Wendy (31:37.198)
Well, that's what I said. was so surprised when she said that she was afraid of everything, because I didn't get that vibe from her. I don't get that vibe from her, which is very interesting. No, no. And then that's when Jennifer also says, a stranger is going to come in our midst. Sutton invited her friend, Amanda. And I was like, wait. I thought Amanda was Kyle's friend. How, all of a sudden, did it become Sutton's friend? mean, Sutton did invite her, but.

Kelli (31:42.439)
You don't get that vibe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, neither does Jennifer Tilly.

Lori (31:43.557)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (32:06.385)
I guess Cassette invited her. She became her friend.

Wendy (32:11.84)
So Kyle says that she sold her house to her and that she saw, I guess on TikTok, that they tore up the floor, her black and white floor. And it's funny because it is still in her confessional look behind her, that same floor.

Lori (32:21.807)
Yeah, the marble, yeah, black and white marble checkered floor.

Kelli (32:30.995)
But I was thinking that must be the floor in her new house.

Wendy (32:34.686)
No, no, no, those are like CGI. They're sitting in front of a green screen.

Kelli (32:40.403)
okay, because I was thinking like, she must've put the same floor in her new house. So she's sitting in front of a green screen in her confessional. Okay. Huh, that's funny.

Lori (32:45.978)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (32:46.381)
Yeah

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I thought so too. Yeah, so she said that, you know, she loved that floor and she's like, everybody, I mean, I honestly love that floor too, but for whatever reason, listen, they don't love it. It's their house, they can do whatever they want. And I'm sure she feels that way too.

Kelli (33:03.143)
Yeah, and people giving her a hard time on social media like, fuck off, it's not your house. It's her house now, she can do whatever she wants.

Lori (33:09.359)
Right, it's not your house.

Wendy (33:10.591)
Right, right.

Right, she was just making a statement. It wasn't like, you know, it is what it is. I know, no, I know what you mean.

Lori (33:16.794)
Yeah.

Kelli (33:17.243)
No, I mean people online coming, cause she said people were coming for her online. It's like, God, yeah, like.

Wendy (33:22.646)
I know, because that's what people do. That's what they do.

Lori (33:28.453)
Too much time, Kelly, too much time on their hands, people.

Kelli (33:30.131)
Woo, for sure.

Wendy (33:33.838)
So then Rachel said, I think everyone did boho chic really differently. so I wrote down, Jennifer is wearing like this blue and white long muumuu thing, right? Rachel came in with this long, she does, Rachel came in with this long one shoulder out like gown. And when she walked in, she's like, I think I'm overdressed. I actually think she was a little overdressed, but you go, you do you, you know, who cares? Erica had on a blue and white floral pantsuit.

Kelli (33:46.387)
She likes her moomoo's.

Lori (33:58.341)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (34:03.918)
Kyle was wearing like a flowy floral boho style dress. Boz was wearing pants and a top. And I couldn't exactly see what Sutton was wearing at that point because she was sitting down. It was like something that was sequinsed. And I couldn't really tell what that was. But then Amanda walks in and she's wearing a white skirt and a top and a Chanel motorcycle jacket. And Jennifer Tilly says to Amanda, you remind me of that 1985 Chanel

and with all the Chanel models with the motorcycle jacket. It's a fabulous look. And I mean, it's like, I was born in 1985.

Kelli (34:41.875)
my god

Lori (34:42.671)
Me and Wendy are like, we graduated high school. We graduated high school.

Wendy (34:46.476)
We graduated high school. Exactly.

Kelli (34:51.443)
I was 11. So she's only 40.

Lori (34:53.029)
yeah, we graduated high school.

Wendy (34:54.658)
Jennifer, she's only 40 and Jennifer Tilly is like, what was I doing? was like selling something for five cents of sandwiches for five cents and salads for 25 cents. So I was pushing the salads, right? Isn't that what she said? Because they were more money or something like that. I was like, my God. I thought that was hysterical.

Lori (35:00.431)
Sandwiches.

Lori (35:07.267)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (35:10.867)
That's so funny.

Lori (35:15.575)
And I thought it was really nice how Jennifer Tilly knew the server's name and introduced her.

Wendy (35:23.82)
Yes. Yes.

Lori (35:24.931)
That's very, very nice. Very telling as to what kind of person she is.

Kelli (35:26.941)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Wendy (35:30.722)
That's a very good point. I'm glad you said that. I'm glad you said that. Then Dorit, you do many times. Dorit arrives last and she has on this long white like maxi dress and she's introduced to Amanda and she said, do you have kids? And she's like, yeah, I have four kids. The older two are my step kids and they're nine and seven. And Bo said, they're his kids.

Lori (35:33.093)
I have them sometimes. Sometimes I have them.

Kelli (35:33.139)
Yeah.

Kelli (35:38.567)
Ha

Wendy (35:58.486)
And she said, no, they're mine. I'm raising them. I thought it was so bold of Boz to say that. Like, who is she? She doesn't know what the situation is.

Lori (36:07.277)
Right. What the situation is. Yeah. Sometimes she goes a little hard. Goes, you know, sometimes she, yeah. Right. Right.

Kelli (36:08.195)
Yeah, she doesn't know the dynamics, so that is a pretty-

Yeah, that is a bold statement to make when you don't know the dynamic for sure. It's also, well, I mean, but she said they're my kids, so we don't know the dynamic either. Like maybe their mother's deceased, maybe, you know, we don't know.

Wendy (36:19.608)
Right.

Wendy (36:29.164)
We don't. No, we don't. And she doesn't either. And like, who is she to question that?

Lori (36:30.254)
Write it down now.

Kelli (36:34.257)
Yeah, like wait to, well no, first of all you should never say it, but you certainly shouldn't say it unless you know. You know, yeah.

Lori (36:43.375)
What the deal is, right?

Wendy (36:44.812)
Yeah.

I mean, interprofessional Bo says, I don't know if I would like another woman calling my daughter her daughter. There's only one mama and that's me. So she immediately put herself in the other mother's shoes. But like you just said, the other mother may not be around. They don't know the situation.

Kelli (37:03.067)
Right. Right.

Lori (37:04.675)
Right, right, who knows? Right, who knows?

Wendy (37:07.18)
So, right.

Wendy (37:11.429)
Then they go outside for the drawing portion of it. And Kyle's like, what are we painting? And there's like a bowl of fruit out there. She's like, are we painting a bowl of fruit? And then she introduces the art teacher who's Miles. And she's like, oh, we're going to draw another kind of beauty. And then I wrote down two men come out. Oh no, four men come out. I was like, first I thought there was only two. was like, no, there's four.

Lori (37:34.788)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (37:39.586)
They dropped their robes and Erica said, I'll take a bag of dicks over a bowl of fruit any day. That was the quote. That was the quote right there. I was like, I love it.

Lori (37:45.125)
She's funny. That was good. That one guy.

Kelli (37:51.101)
So our show is gonna be called Bag of Dicks.

Wendy (37:53.902)
Yeah, bag of dicks.

Lori (37:53.989)
Yeah, we could do that. Vagabricks, I like it. That one guy though, that was posing. Ooh, he was like so cringy. So cringy. The one that was like, you know what? stop it. Just stop it. Stop it. I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't, don't do it. Don't do it.

Wendy (38:07.234)
Arching.

Kelli (38:11.564)
Ew, I'm gonna watch the, I'm gonna finish the episode when we stop. Ew. Don't do that, don't do that.

Wendy (38:22.35)
Kyle said, I've never had a mushroom, now might be a good time to try one. I was like, maybe.

Lori (38:22.853)
Hmm.

Lori (38:29.229)
And they did say that the one guy was uncircumcised. yeah, said mm-hmm, mm-hmm. No, I've never seen that in real life myself.

Kelli (38:33.203)
I've never seen that. I've never seen...

Wendy (38:33.681)
I missed that. I missed that.

Kelli (38:39.899)
It's kind of surprising that Kyle's never done mushrooms.

Wendy (38:45.614)
Hmm.

Kelli (38:45.757)
Cause she likes it when they went to Amsterdam, she was partaking in the other stuff.

Wendy (38:50.53)
Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I think psychedelics are different, like hallucinogenics. Yeah, I mean, think I'm like...

Kelli (38:55.015)
Yeah, it's a different, it's, yeah.

Lori (38:56.173)
Yeah. And here I was, here I was thinking, like, like mushrooms, like fried mushrooms with onions. I was, I was. Yes, I know I was. So look, if, it's like,

Wendy (39:06.222)
You were not. You? Of all people?

Kelli (39:12.115)
there's nothing I love a mushroom pizza But there's nothing worse than ordering a mushroom pizza and you get the canned mushrooms like not the front Fuck all that

Lori (39:19.301)
those nasty ones. Yeah. Yeah. But listen, if it comes to food or drugs, I'm always food. If it food come first. Yeah, it's just the food will come first.

Kelli (39:26.247)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (39:27.338)
Your brain, your brain, okay.

Okay, got it. Well, that makes sense then.

Lori (39:33.859)
And how about when Amanda asks the guy if he ever got a boner?

Kelli (39:41.095)
What, when he was posing? must be horrible if you don't though. Well, I guess if you're not, yeah. Wow.

Lori (39:41.31)
Yes! Yes, he's...

Wendy (39:47.128)
Well, he said no. He said no. There was someone taking a drink order and Amanda ordered a mocktail and Erica said, boo, you have to drink alcohol unless you're Kyle.

Lori (39:49.497)
Amazing.

Lori (40:00.81)
Yeah, leave everybody alone. Let the girl drink whatever she wants. You just manner. I give a shit what she drinks.

Kelli (40:02.715)
Right. Right.

Wendy (40:04.694)
I know, Amanda, yeah, in her confessional she said, it's not that I don't drink ever, I just really prefer not to drink and I don't know who Erica is to think she should comment on my not drinking. I agree with her, 100%.

Lori (40:15.992)
Well, welcome. Welcome to the group, girl.

Kelli (40:16.487)
Well, I agree with her and it's actually kind of interesting that that came from Erica considering that a couple of seasons ago, she made a fool out of herself drinking so much to the fact that the next season she kind of had to scale her drinking back because of how she acted the prior season, telling Garcelle's son to go fuck off or whatever she said to him and then telling the other one she wanted to have a menage-a-trois with him and his significant other.

Lori (40:33.262)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (40:40.514)
Right, right, right, right. Yeah.

Lori (40:46.18)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (40:46.257)
Like it's kind of interesting that that's coming from her. She's telling somebody they have to drink.

Wendy (40:52.108)
Well, and then she even said, I get shamed for good life choices. Which again, very bold. So I did not realize we were gonna get to see the drawings. So then they all turn around their drawings and Kyle is like, do I have to show mine? And when she shows hers, they're like, that looks like a woman. listen, thought.

Lori (40:59.076)
Alright.

Lori (41:14.66)
Yeah, it was weird. was like...

Wendy (41:19.342)
I could have never done, I don't have any talent to be able to draw something like that. But Rachel's drawing one, which that doesn't surprise me because he's artistic. Yeah, yeah, so that doesn't surprise me. Then the men put their robes on and they all go inside with them to have a little snack. I was like, that's so weird.

Kelli (41:24.253)
Me neither.

Lori (41:27.5)
No, she's very talented. She's artistic. Yeah.

Kelli (41:30.099)
Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (41:38.776)
Yeah, it's very odd. Okay. But how, but how about, like, Bose asking Kyle if she's having sex? was like, what, what, what are you doing? Like,

Kelli (41:42.525)
That is weird.

Wendy (41:53.57)
Well, first she said to Kyle, she's like, are you dating now? And she said, no, I'm not. And then she said, well, are you having sex? I was like, what? Kyle said, no. Like that is, yeah.

Lori (42:03.523)
What?

Lori (42:07.704)
Yeah. Like that. Yeah. That was just, I was just wrong. was like,

Kelli (42:12.733)
Well, I think they're just trying to get Kyle to say something about what's going on in her life, other than the fact that she's separated from Moe and her daughter's getting married. I think they're trying, which is fine, but I think they're just trying to get her to say something, which is exactly what Garcelle was doing last season, and she got shit for it, and nobody stuck up for her, and she wound up quitting the show.

Lori (42:16.984)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Lori (42:24.963)
Bye.

Kelli (42:38.567)
But that's all Garcelle was doing last year was trying to get Kyle to admit what was going on in her life.

Wendy (42:46.81)
So I have a lot of thoughts about this, to be honest with you. I don't know if I should get into them now. Yeah, I'm gonna get into them now. So Gorsel was trying to get Kyle to open up about her personal life, right? I have since seen, you know, last week we said about, you know, and not knowing what happened between her and Gorsel. I have since seen and read that

Sutton did reach out to Garcelle several times for several months after the reunion and Garcelle never responded to her. Never, not once. So it's not like she didn't try. So I think that that's kind of important to note. The other thing is, what did Garcelle show us about her personal life? Like Garcelle didn't show us anything either. And she didn't. And I'm gonna jump to the very end.

Kelli (43:35.507)
You're right.

Wendy (43:40.428)
and then we're gonna come back, just because I think this is the spot I wanna bring this up. The very end, which you didn't see, is that Erica goes over to Kyle's house and they're talking about the drawing of the naked man and how her daughters were making fun of her and Kyle's like, well, it's been a long time since I've seen a wiener. Because they're talking about her drawing and Erica said, well, that could all change now that you're single and Kyle said, well,

I'm so tired of everybody asking me about that. You know, if we were seeing someone that you care, she said, if you were seeing someone that you care very much about and they said to you, please, I'm not a part of this group and please be respectful, do not talk about me. So this is where we find out. Like she said to Erica, would you betray that person just because people are curious? And Erica said, no, I would protect that person.

And Kyle said, I've always told everybody everything just because I'm an honest person and I don't like to be a liar. I was seeing someone that I cared about very much since separating from Mo, I was in a relationship. I was in a very vulnerable place in my life and I feel, I feel, I feel, you know, like I have to protect this person. This doesn't mean.

that this person wants to share everything that's going on between us and all this speculation and all this is what ended the relationship. She's like, I could have weathered the storm, but this isn't for everyone. So when she really opened up about that, again, I was saying this back when it was happening. I was saying.

Kelli (45:23.965)
So she was in a relationship with Morgan Wade. Morgan Wade didn't like the attention.

Lori (45:29.38)
Okay, but wait, I'm just gonna stop it. I'm gonna shut it all down right here.

Wendy (45:34.177)
Okay.

Lori (45:36.504)
You're saying that, but you put out a music video where you guys are, where you're kissing. You, Morgan Wade, decided to be on the show when your relationship was just starting. You knew it was going somewhere. Bullshit. How do you not know?

Kelli (45:48.477)
Yes.

Kelli (45:53.479)
Yeah. She knew who Kyle Richards was and she was on the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.

Wendy (45:53.582)
She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't, she didn't know. Unless you're in that Bravo universe, you don't know how the fans are gonna react. She didn't know. And I also, since Red...

Kelli (46:07.055)
Exactly. She knew who Kyle was. She chose to date her. What she didn't like was the backlash, was the negative comments from people. That's what she didn't like. Not the fact that she was dating somebody who was on Bravo. She didn't like how she was being treated by the Bravo fans. That's different. I don't blame her. It's different.

Wendy (46:26.828)
Right. No, that's not different. It's not different. I don't think it's different because she didn't know that that's what was gonna happen. How would she know that they were gonna treat her that way? And as soon as she found out, she's like, I don't wanna be, she only agreed to go on the show because Kyle asked her to. And had she known that this was gonna happen, she wouldn't have agreed to do it. She was in a relationship with her. And the other thing I've read is, you know, we keep saying that Morgan's, you know, gay. She's never come out to her family as gay.

She's never come out to her family as gay. So listen, this comes out. Now she has all these other people to answer to and why does she have to be a part of this? She chose not to be a part of it and she asked Kyle not to speak about it. She asked her not to speak about it.

Kelli (47:15.965)
She did that after she went on the show. She filmed with Kyle. She filmed at the tattoo place. They were clearly flirting with each other. They did a music video where they were kissing each other. So if your family didn't know you were gay, you maybe should not kiss a woman in a music video.

Lori (47:16.477)
again

Wendy (47:19.542)
That's when she found out. So people can't change their minds?

Wendy (47:26.571)
Again.

Wendy (47:30.7)
That was the music video.

Lori (47:34.062)
think they know now.

Lori (47:38.148)
Where you going? Where you going with that?

Wendy (47:38.344)
I'm, I'm, I'm team Kyle on this. I feel like you can change your mind. I feel like you can say yes one time and then you could say no another time and that's okay. So she said yes the first season when she found out how it was gonna happen, she said, no, I don't wanna be a part of this. Keep me out of this.

Kelli (47:53.624)
I agree with all that but you can't you can't say she was naive to the fact that she went She went on she went on the fucking Real Housewives of Beverly Hills You you you signed a form that you would record and you recorded with her You were very flirty in the scene. You put a music video out where you're face with her. I mean

Wendy (47:59.938)
She was naive.

Wendy (48:07.56)
We know what that's like.

Lori (48:16.226)
did the video.

Lori (48:21.39)
What do you think is gonna hit like?

Kelli (48:21.971)
You did that. I feel bad that she got negative, because I don't think there's anything wrong with her. I think she's a beautiful girl. She's very talented. And I don't think she deserved any negative comments from people. But you can't play dumb.

Lori (48:37.612)
Now, now.

Wendy (48:39.374)
I'm not saying she's playing dumb. I'm saying she can change her mind. A music video is an art form, okay? Music is art. She's an artist, okay? So you could do one thing in a music video. You could have feelings for someone. You could be your true authentic self with somebody. And then when you see what the ramifications are for that, you could say, don't wanna be a part of that. And that's not being naive.

Kelli (48:45.098)
sure, sure.

Wendy (49:05.682)
She did not know. We know Bravo. We've been watching Bravo. We know what Bravo fans are like. If you're country music singer, she was not sitting there watching the Housewives. She's not following the Housewives blogs.

Kelli (49:05.757)
But you-

Kelli (49:21.299)
Okay, but the whole thing about her family, I mean, the fact that you're country music performer, she was in the public eye prior, I personally didn't know who she was, because I'm not really into country music, but other people did, you put a music video out where you're kissing a girl. If you're not gay, then that's kind of a,

Wendy (49:21.432)
You don't think that you could say yes to...

Kelli (49:51.141)
weird thing to do because people are going to think you're gay, right?

Wendy (49:56.32)
It's an art, like I said, it's an artistic expression.

Kelli (49:59.06)
I mean, that's how your family found out that you were gay, I don't think you can blame anybody other than yourself.

Wendy (50:03.736)
Well, who's to say that she is gay?

who's to say she is gay. Nobody should be labeling somebody else. If she hasn't come out and said, I'm gay, if she hasn't come out and said, I'm gay, maybe she's pan, maybe she's bi. We don't know. And it is not for anyone to label somebody else. That is what I'm saying. And she has never come out and said this. She has never come out and labeled herself. So the public felt the need to label her based on what they saw, because that's what the public, they judge a book by its cover.

Kelli (50:11.827)
Well, okay, you're right, you're right, but you can't say,

Kelli (50:19.847)
Sure! She's-

Kelli (50:24.819)
But it-

Wendy (50:36.556)
Like I said, a music video is an artistic expression. She isn't an artist. Okay? They express themselves differently.

Kelli (50:42.683)
Okay, but if you don't like girls, would you kiss a girl in a music video and put it out for the population to see?

Wendy (50:49.61)
If that's what the song, who's to say she doesn't like girls? Again, she hasn't labeled yourself.

Kelli (50:54.931)
That's, that's what I'm saying. All right, let's, yeah.

Wendy (50:57.972)
Nobody's saying she doesn't like girls. I'm just saying that I, on this situation, I am team Kyle. You are obviously not team Kyle. You think that she deserves the backlash just she got. And you think that Morgan, Morgan should have known better. And that because she put it out there that she deserves received. Okay. And I don't agree. Because like you said, you don't know country music. And if you went to her concert and

Kelli (51:16.797)
I think Morgan should have known better. I think Morgan should have known better.

Wendy (51:25.132)
you know, maybe she sang vulgar country music, but you wouldn't know that because you don't know country music, right? So she doesn't know housewives.

Kelli (51:30.459)
No. But I do know if somebody puts a music video out, a woman, and she's kissing another woman, I'm gonna think to myself, well she likes girls too. Maybe not that she only likes girls, but I'm gonna think that she likes girls too.

Wendy (51:40.258)
But have you seen any of other videos? Yeah. But what, I mean, I gonna say, have you seen any of her other videos? Maybe she has other videos where she's kissing men. I don't know, I've never seen them.

Kelli (51:50.195)
That's great, but she has one that she was kissing a girl, so she likes girls too. And if her parents didn't know that, and she didn't want her parents to know that.

Wendy (51:55.278)
But again, why does she, I'm not saying her parents didn't know that. I'm not saying her parents didn't know that. I'm saying that she's never come out and labeled herself and we should not be putting labels. We as a community, as a collective, we shouldn't be labeling people. Like we shouldn't say this person is gay, this person is trans, this person is bi. Like we shouldn't be doing that is what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's all. And like I said, in this situation, I'm Team Kyle.

Back to where where do we leave off?

Lori (52:32.764)
Dorit is talking about her whole situation and that PK wants to block her letting the kids go to Florida. I guess she told him, he finally came home from Europe and she said the kids are gonna go with my parents. And he's like, okay, I'll go too. And then we can all hang out. And Dorit was like, what? And she got upset about it and.

Wendy (52:39.149)
Yes.

Wendy (52:44.429)
Yes.

Lori (53:01.014)
She had a whole conversation where...

Kyle was like, know, Dreat was saying, well, he did it to just to be mean. And Kyle was like, well, you know, not necessarily. And Dreat was like, you know. So I don't know. Like I said, there's two sides, but the bottom line is PK.

Wendy (53:25.166)
Kyle's?

Lori (53:33.207)
Even when they were married, you can always tell he had this very cocky side to him. And I can totally see him. Maybe he didn't do it to be mean, but he definitely did it to like insert himself and be like, okay, so I'm home. So now I could just see the kids whenever I want. you could just tell he's just, yeah, he's just being a little bit of a dick about it. And Kyle was kind of like trying to, I guess,

Kelli (53:53.811)
Puff his chest out and...

Lori (54:01.281)
and then of course that got Doreen's tackles all up.

Wendy (54:04.94)
Well, yeah, because this is what I wrote down. So when she explained the whole story, Kyle got up and she hugged her. And Bo says, listen, it's too overwhelming to think about everything. So the most important thing right now is getting your kids to Florida. And PK said, well, if they're going to Florida, then daddy's going to Florida too. And I'll stay in a hotel. And they could stay with me. And Kyle said, well, if he's willing to compromise, then just let him go stay with him. And

Doreen's like, I don't think you understand. I'm not dealing with someone who's rational. And Boz is sitting there agreeing with Kyle. Doreen says he's just doing it to hurt me. And then in her confessional, Doreen is saying, she says, do you know? She says, like, this is the time you were to show up for me 100%. Like, you've never been there for me 100%. Like, you've known me almost 10 years. Like, how many times have you seen me this way? I'm broken.

But meanwhile, everyone else is giving her suggestions, similar suggestions, but she's only going after Kyle. Other people there are saying the same thing to her. okay, Bo said, let him be the bearer bad news. like, know, like, let him tell them. And Rachel's like, yeah, that's a good idea. And Eric was like, yeah, like, let him bear the responsibility of the children. Everything that Kyle says,

Again, same thing that other people have said, she jumps on her. Like she doesn't give Kyle any grace. She's expecting, she's got a different standard for Kyle than she does for all the other ladies.

Lori (55:36.238)
But don't you think that's because she was trying to make it seem like, like, you know, PK's not being, you know, he's not doing it to hurt you. He's not being mean about it. He's not.

Wendy (55:50.93)
No, I didn't think she was doing that. I thought she was doing it to say, like, let's meet him in the middle. Let's compromise so that at least your kids can get to Florida. You know, like Bo said, the most important thing is make sure these kids can get to Florida. And like, how do we make that happen? You know?

Lori (56:07.918)
Except for the fact that she was saying the kids really didn't want to spend time with him. They wanted to be with their grandparents.

Wendy (56:13.602)
Well, she said that after Kyle said that. And then that's when that's when Bo said, like, let's figure this out. Like, you know, maybe you have him tell him. Like, she was not trying to take PK's side. She was, like I said, I felt like she was there trying to give her advice. But no matter what Kyle says, Dorit isn't hearing it, even if somebody else is the exact same thing.

And Kyle walked away feeling that exact same way. Like those words came out of her mouth. She's like, you know, she takes advice from others that she won't take from me. And it's the same advice.

Kelli (56:51.057)
Yeah, it seems like they're just not past whatever it is that, know, whatever started this thing between them, you know, two seasons ago, three seasons ago, I feel like it's been forever. It just seems like it's not getting any better. It's only getting worse.

Lori (56:55.278)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (57:09.378)
Well, I feel like it's because Boz is there and Boz now is in Dorit's corner. mean, Kyle even said when she was on Watch What Happens Live, it came out at BravoCon, that Dorit and her are not speaking right now. They're still, not in speaking terms. So something happens, I think coming up on one of their trips where her and Erica and Dorit like have it out and Dorit walks away. So it's not.

Kelli (57:17.981)
Yeah.

Wendy (57:36.244)
Like I said, it's not like she's not trying. I think that she is trying, but she doesn't.

Dorit expects her to be there in only one way. And Kyle is being there in the way that she thinks is right. Like it's just not right for Dorit. I don't think it's like she's not trying.

Kelli (57:55.924)
And listen, I don't blame Dorit for not wanting PK to go to Florida because if this really was a trip, yeah, like her parents are perfectly capable of taking care of the kids and PK probably is just doing it to be a dick. Like where have you been? Now all of a sudden you're gonna jet off to Florida to interfere with her kid's time with the parents. I get, like Bo's and Kyle and whoever was saying it were probably just like, listen, there's probably nothing you could do about it.

Wendy (58:02.274)
I don't remember either.

Lori (58:10.392)
Right, that's what I'm saying. Where have you been? Right.

Kelli (58:24.979)
He's gonna do what he's gonna do. So just try to make the best of it. But yeah, it doesn't sound like she wants to hear anything from Kyle. Something, I don't know. Whatever it is, they're not past it. They're not through it. They gotta figure it out. Just stop trying to go back to being the friends that you were because it's not happening.

Lori (58:25.304)
Right. He's going to do right.

Lori (58:43.576)
Right, because if that's not gonna be it, then that's not gonna be. But I thought it was really interesting that Peacock now has a Cartier commercial.

Kelli (58:53.531)
that's so funny. That is funny.

Lori (58:54.82)
Yeah.

Wendy (58:56.366)
It's so funny when you said peacock I thought you were gonna say PK and then you said And then I I thought you were gonna say PK and then I heard peacock. I'm like, peacock. Okay peacock

Kelli (59:00.103)
Me too. Me too.

Lori (59:00.418)
Yeah, big up.

Lori (59:08.14)
Yeah. A lot of lot of cocks going on on this show. Yeah.

Kelli (59:09.747)
with the... yeah.

Wendy (59:12.27)
So I didn't get to see Dorita on Watch What Happens Live, but I know she was on Watch What Happens Live. I guess you didn't see it either. All right, so yeah, that's fine. Whatever comes out, we'll talk about it next week. Unless there's anything else about this one you want to talk about. All right. All right, so.

Kelli (59:14.343)
That's funny.

Lori (59:22.5)
No, I didn't see it either. No, no, no.

Kelli (59:23.439)
I didn't see it either because I didn't even finish the episode.

Lori (59:30.894)
We'll see what happens. Nope.

Kelli (59:36.371)
now.

Lori (59:36.514)
Nope, nope, nope.

Wendy (59:37.504)
Until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe and give us five star reviews. Bye.

Kelli (59:43.805)
Bye.

Lori (59:44.163)
Bye.