McBee Dynasty-Diamonds, Drama, and a Double Life

McBee Dynasty-Diamonds, Drama, and a Double Life

Podcast Summary

This episode of McBee Dynasty takes us deep into the mounting pressures of love, marriage, and farm life.

• On the farm: Cole is pushing to finish the corn harvest, but family stress weighs heavy. Jesse has a panic attack thinking about his upcoming wedding, haunted by his parents’ troubled marriage. He finally opens up to Alli, admitting he feels like he’s living a double life, struggling with perfection expectations. Alli, in tears, wonders if postponing the wedding might be best.
• Family ties: Steven Jr. apologizes to his mom and admits his loneliness at 30. He reaches out to Calah, but their relationship remains strained and uncertain ahead of Jesse’s wedding.
• Ring drama: Kristi pushes Cole toward proposing and takes him ring shopping, but Kacie resists being rushed into marriage just because it’s “the next step.”
• Heartbreak & healing: Steven and Cole both apologize to Calah, trying to mend fences. Still, Calah isn’t sure she wants more drama at the wedding.
• Big questions: With Jesse’s anxiety threatening to derail the wedding, and Kristi pushing her sons to “grow up,” the McBee family is balancing love, legacy, and the heavy expectations of both farm life and relationships.

Takeaways

The McBee family is navigating complex relationships and personal challenges.
Wedding preparations bring out both excitement and anxiety among the characters.
Prenup discussions are essential in modern relationships, especially with financial implications.
The importance of family support and understanding in times of stress is emphasized.
Cultural perspectives on hunting and food play a significant role in the family's lifestyle.
The characters reflect on their past experiences and how they shape their current decisions.
Simplicity in love and relationships is valued over materialistic gestures.
The impact of reality TV on personal relationships is a recurring theme.
Business challenges, including legal issues, affect family dynamics.
The importance of communication in relationships is highlighted throughout the episode. Good for her, she doesn't want to rush into marriage.
Cole's apology was gentlemanly, but unnecessary.
Calla loves drama and will likely attend the wedding.
Jesse feels pressure to maintain a perfect image in his relationship.
Ali's response to Jesse's anxiety was supportive and understanding.
The sister-in-laws share a close bond, contrasting with Calla's image-focused approach.
Louie's influence has negatively impacted Teresa's family dynamics.
Infidelity is a recurring theme in reality TV, affecting personal relationships.
Dolores's hypocrisy in her podcast discussions is frustrating for fans.
The future of reality TV may involve new cast dynamics and storylines.

Transcript

Wendy (00:01.454)
and welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:04.356)
I'm Kelly.

Gina (00:05.54)
I'm cousin Gina.

Wendy (00:07.896)
We have three of us today recapping McBee Dynasty. We're doing season two, episode number eight, Panic on the Combine. I don't love that title, but it's all right. I know, I'm a little disappointed. I'm disappointed.

Gina (00:21.584)
I can't believe it's episode eight already. Went fast, yeah.

Kelli (00:27.291)
So I only watched this episode, but I did listen to your podcast, so I'm caught up. But how many episodes do we have left for the season?

Wendy (00:34.248)
It's only ten. Yeah.

Gina (00:35.867)
There's only 10.

Kelli (00:37.392)
And we're supposed to see a wedding, correct? Okay. Okay.

Wendy (00:39.916)
Yes, that's the season finale. So I don't, you know, I don't know how much more we're going to get. But, well, you know, we'll have to wait and see.

Kelli (00:48.038)
Well, we know they have a baby, right? So I'm assuming the wedding went forward. I mean, not that they have to be married, have a kid, but I'm just saying they're clearly still together if they have a child.

Wendy (00:50.113)
Well, we know there's two babies.

Yeah.

Wendy (00:59.968)
Yeah.

Gina (01:00.144)
And I think I sent you guys a text. She clearly was pregnant when they were filming.

Kelli (01:05.113)
Yes, but probably brand new pregnant.

Wendy (01:09.227)
Yeah, yeah.

Gina (01:10.307)
Yeah. And she, know, maybe she didn't want to take anything away from her sister-in-law, you know, let her be, you know, but.

Wendy (01:18.764)
Yeah, that's okay though. You know, you have two little girls.

Gina (01:21.015)
Two little girls. Now, you know who's thrilled is Steve Senior. I follow him on Instagram and the only thing he's been posting, I guess for a while since the legal thing happened, are pictures of him with the granddaughters. And I didn't realize there were two, but it's just like every day he's taking them swimming, he's doing this with them, he's taking them out for rides on horses. Yeah, he's a good grandfather.

Kelli (01:24.056)
their mother must be thrilled.

Kelli (01:39.238)
Well, that's nice.

Wendy (01:40.449)
It is nice.

Kelli (01:46.13)
Aww.

Kelli (01:51.292)
That's good, that's important. mean, maybe not the best husband, obviously, and seems like a good dad though, right? no? Okay, again, I didn't watch other than this episode, I'm just learning.

Gina (01:53.514)
It is. No.

No. No.

Wendy (01:59.68)
Not a good role model. Yeah, not-

Gina (02:04.568)
Well, I say that because he encourages his sons to cheat, maybe overtly. Well, he puts them in situations where they shouldn't be. He encourages them to go to bars and get drunk and...

Wendy (02:10.35)
I don't think he encourages it. Yeah. Right.

Kelli (02:11.148)
my god!

Kelli (02:17.658)
And he did, I'm.

Well, yeah, that's not productive. Okay.

Wendy (02:24.852)
No, that's not predictive. So we start out with coal, he's on the combine, and they need to finish the corn harvest so that they can move on to the soybean. So like I was saying last week, I would like to see more of that whole harvest situation. I really enjoy watching that. It's interesting to me.

Kelli (02:27.89)
All right.

Kelli (02:44.984)
I agree and it's so not housewife-ish that I did really enjoy that. Yeah.

Wendy (02:51.384)
Yeah.

Gina (02:52.76)
And they have a lot of other businesses. So I'm wondering how much of the farming do they really do?

Kelli (02:59.92)
Yeah, like that could just be for cameras, that they're physically on the machine doing the harvesting. Right, they probably have people to do that for them.

Gina (03:02.53)
right.

The four brothers, right. I bet you...

Wendy (03:10.626)
Well, think it's, I honestly do think Cole and Jesse do a lot of the labor. I do think that they are on the farm doing the labor. mean, Stephen Jr. not so much. think he's more behind the scenes. And then he's running it. Yes, he's running it. Right. And then Braden's the youngest and I'm not sure he's as involved because he started it a little bit later than the other brothers.

Kelli (03:23.846)
He's like the... he's like the business guy though, right? Yeah.

Gina (03:27.619)
He's a business.

Wendy (03:40.482)
But the next thing we see is Steven Jr. apologizes to his mom because we ended the last episode with her kind of walking out because she wasn't happy with the way he was speaking to her. he's saying that it's really hard for him to be alone. He feels like the seventh wheel when he goes out with his brothers. And at 30 years old, I can imagine that that would be tough. He's always used to being partnered up and all of a sudden he's not with a partner.

Gina (04:09.304)
You know, maybe he needs to find new friends.

Wendy (04:12.203)
Yeah, yeah, definitely.

Kelli (04:13.798)
I think that's what kind of what his mom was saying, right? Like, find other people to surround yourself with.

Gina (04:16.44)
Yeah, yeah, you can't, you know, if you're not choosing the same road that your brothers are on.

Wendy (04:17.174)
Yeah, she was.

Wendy (04:24.449)
Right.

Kelli (04:25.814)
Which is funny though because, well, because they're all in relationships. Well, I don't know about the younger one. He's not, right? But they're still going out to bars anyway, right?

Wendy (04:34.402)
He's not now.

Wendy (04:40.192)
Not really, not unless they're going to Nashville. Yeah, only when they're in Nashville, not at home. mean, they're all hanging out together when they're at home. I mean, they all go to each other's, they all go to one house for dinner, like whether they order in or, they're all hanging out together, it seems to be. That's how they're portraying it.

Gina (04:43.383)
when they're in Nashville.

Kelli (04:45.404)
Okay.

Kelli (04:57.84)
Right.

Gina (04:58.157)
They don't live on a compound, but they live very close to each other. okay. So it is a compound.

Wendy (05:01.058)
They're all on the same property. all have a house on the farm.

Kelli (05:04.7)
but the property is just huge. The property is huge. Okay. Cause I saw the one brother, I think it's Cole, right? With the pregnant girlfriend. They're building that house. That house is gonna be beautiful. Yeah.

Wendy (05:06.72)
Yeah, yeah, yes, yes, yes.

Gina (05:10.733)
And then.

Wendy (05:15.042)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (05:19.011)
Yeah.

Gina (05:19.353)
Right. And the others, one, Jesse, who's with Allie, they own, also own a house in the city. And I'm not sure what city, what's the closest one? Kansas City? Yeah. They have a house there because she's a nurse practitioner there.

Wendy (05:29.912)
Kansas City, Kansas City.

Kelli (05:32.369)
Okay.

Kelli (05:36.988)
Wow.

Wendy (05:38.22)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (05:40.242)
Good for her. Wow.

Wendy (05:42.958)
Stephen also is saying that, you know, having the weight of the farm on his shoulders and not having anyone to talk to about it is kind of weighing on him too.

Kelli (05:51.997)
So I understand the father has allegations brought against him, right? So that litigation is pending. the father can't have any hands in the business at this point.

Gina (05:57.568)
he's guilty. He's guilty.

Wendy (06:04.122)
I imagine not.

Gina (06:04.129)
No, I think at this time, I think when it was filmed, I don't think he had pled guilty yet.

Kelli (06:10.702)
since he's pled guilty?

Gina (06:12.033)
Yeah, I think after filming of season two was when he, they, was like one of those negotiations and he is going to be sentenced next month. But they said he could still get up to 30 years. It was falsifying, falsifying farm, like the farm assessment records or something where the government gives farms, you know,

Kelli (06:20.901)
a play bargain.

Kelli (06:29.138)
Wow! What the hell did he do?

Wendy (06:36.333)
Yeah.

Kelli (06:40.048)
Right. Grants or something. Got it.

Gina (06:41.378)
some help.

Wendy (06:41.483)
Money. Yeah.

Gina (06:44.697)
And guess what? You deserve, if you're taking my tax dollars like that. Yeah, you know, I think we should be helping our farmers just like we're doing, but it's not fair to the other farmers when you take advantage of that.

Wendy (06:44.739)
Yes.

Kelli (06:46.95)
Well, fuck yeah.

Wendy (06:59.584)
No, absolutely. he, it's definitely wrong when he did. Christie's telling him that, that she's not the girl for him. Kayla, Cala, know, even though, you know, he needs someone to lean on, she's not the one. And I think everyone agrees with that, that she's not the girl for him. And the funny thing is as they're driving on the farm, because Christie hasn't been to the farm in a long time since the divorce, she really has kind of distanced herself from it.

But as they're driving around on the farm, all of a sudden Masha's there and he points her out. He's like, my gosh, there's Masha. And she's like, I've never seen her before. And I don't think she really got a chance to see her. from what it looked, yeah, they passed.

Gina (07:39.928)
Was it cars? Yeah.

Kelli (07:41.552)
Neither did I. I looked down real quick and looked up. I'm like, where is she? But I didn't rewind. I probably should have.

Wendy (07:45.326)
You wouldn't have seen anything anyway. was just like, you wouldn't have seen it. And then Casey and Allie are talking about the wedding and Allie's been with Jesse since she was 16 years old. Yep, and then we see back out on the combine, Jesse's thinking about his wedding and all of a sudden his heart starts beating out of his chest. Like he's having an anxiety attack. And I felt bad for him because

Honestly, I think of all of the brothers, he's kind of my favorite. Like, I think he really kind of like is very stoic, is very respectful. You know, he's just, I think he's an overall really good guy. And, you know, I don't think he has anyone to talk to about this. Like he's, you know, feeling alone.

Gina (08:36.503)
He's my favorite too, but also has to do with he's a cutie.

Wendy (08:38.071)
Yeah.

He's cute.

Kelli (08:41.078)
I don't know them all to say if he's my favorite or not, but I trust your girl's opinions. do either of you think, because this was my initial thought, but again, I don't know all of the background. My initial thought was, what is this, season two? Okay, so there's already been a season one. He's, I'm sure at this point, getting a lot of attention on social media when he goes out.

Wendy (08:47.028)
Hahaha.

Wendy (08:59.352)
Yeah.

Gina (08:59.605)
Yes.

Gina (09:10.548)
Well, he was on another reality show.

Kelli (09:12.966)
Jesse was. That's who I'm talking about. Do you think Jesse, a part of his, I understand he had a panic attack and that's awful. I'm not saying that that's not true. I think he really did. But do you think him questioning him getting married has anything to do with attention from females because of this show?

Wendy (09:14.508)
No, no, Jesse wasn't. Yeah, no, Jesse wasn't.

Gina (09:14.528)
no, I'm sorry, Steve. yeah.

Wendy (09:39.15)
I don't.

Gina (09:40.007)
I really don't. I mean, he could, but...

Kelli (09:41.55)
Okay. I just thought that because I thought, all right, we're in season two. He's definitely getting attention.

Wendy (09:42.893)
I don't.

Gina (09:46.871)
think he's that good of an actor. Yeah, I don't think he's that good of an actor. He seems to be very sincere and genuine in his love for Allie. Yeah.

Kelli (09:54.631)
I mean, he said she's too good for me. Like the things he said were very sweet. So I just.

Wendy (10:01.088)
He also, he doesn't have good, know, he saw what happened with his mom and dad. He saw how bad it got. And you know, although he's nothing like his dad, he's just fearful. You know, this is a big step. I mean, he's known her since she was 16 years old. Regardless of, I think anyone would be nervous about that. And if you're not, you're crazy. It's not that you're questioning the decision. It's just that it's a

Kelli (10:06.108)
Sure.

Kelli (10:26.172)
Right.

Wendy (10:30.156)
big day coming up. It is a big day. And at this point, he still doesn't have the prenup thing taken care of either, which is yet

Gina (10:38.72)
I don't think he should. If he doesn't want it, no.

Kelli (10:39.14)
Has he approached her about a prenup?

Wendy (10:42.638)
Not as of yet.

Kelli (10:44.4)
So his family wants him to do a prenup.

Gina (10:47.168)
His, the men in the family, his mother does not.

Wendy (10:47.405)
Yes.

Kelli (10:52.348)
so his mother knows about the prenup and does not agree with it.

Gina (10:56.373)
the mother on a podcast.

Wendy (10:57.836)
I was gonna say, I didn't hear that. That didn't come out on the show. She didn't say that.

Gina (11:00.182)
Yeah. Oh man. I wish I saved it. I heard her on a podcast and she broke it down. She said each one of those boys has, well, it couldn't be 25 % because

Wendy (11:15.904)
No, because there's four of them. Right.

Gina (11:17.47)
And there's 10 % to what's her faith, but she broke it down and she said if they got divorced. Right, she would get maybe like 10 % if they got divorced. This is his mother. She broke it down to percentage wise and said while it's going to be a lot of money, yes, but you know she would deserve it. This is a woman who was who was wronged by her husband and I really appreciate that she's sticking up.

Kelli (11:21.49)
Well, maybe they have 25 % of each of the remaining 90. So, yeah.

Gina (11:47.526)
and not siding with the men in her family. But the mother, and you may see that next week, I think they may have seen that in the previews, but the mother is definitely not for the premill.

Kelli (11:51.026)
Well, listen, I mean...

Kelli (12:02.962)
And the girl obviously is not with him because of the money or the show or the fame. mean, she's been with him since they were 16 years old. They're her high school sweetheart. So there's no, you know, underlying mal-intent on her part. Yeah, she's a nurse practitioner. Yeah, easy. Easy.

Gina (12:18.343)
And she's a nurse practitioner. She's a nurse practitioner. On a bad day, she's making 80 grand. That's probably the lowest she would be making, and that's out there. But she's working in a big, she's working in Kansas City. She's making six figures.

Wendy (12:21.037)
Right.

Kelli (12:34.352)
Yeah, God bless her.

Gina (12:36.265)
Yeah, she should ask for the prenup. Think about it. Think about it. I think everybody should get a prenup. But in this case, I'm not.

Kelli (12:39.012)
No shit! Maybe she should!

Wendy (12:51.182)
We'll have to wait and see what happens because I don't know whether or not there was a I don't we don't know so we'll have to wait and see what happens and then

Kelli (12:57.287)
Yeah.

Gina (12:58.545)
And one of the things the mother also said, excuse me, that she left Steve senior a lot long, a lot longer than we thought. She said that her youngest son did not grow up with his brothers. They barely knew him because they lived in the city, I guess, Kansas City. They lived in the city and he was never at the farm. He never went to the farm. He had a

Wendy (13:18.264)
Yes.

Gina (13:25.716)
It sounded like a lot of hatred for his father over the divorce.

Wendy (13:31.586)
Well, I think that they were separated for quite a while because I think that, you know, kind of you get the, the inkling because even when Galina talks about it, know, Christie says she wasn't there. So Galina, you know, she was told that they were, that he wasn't married. Then she found out that they were married, but they were separated. She, she was not, Christie was not at the farm. She was not going to the farm. She was, she was working.

Kelli (13:31.892)
that's interesting.

Gina (13:54.526)
She was working, that's why. She took the youngest child, moved to the city so that she could provide for the family by working. That's what the mother said. She was in the city because she had to work. And she took the youngest with her.

Wendy (14:15.278)
Yeah. So then he goes and he tells his brother, Steven Jr. about, you know, what happened and the panic attack. he's, you know, he's telling Steven Jr. that like, I don't even want to tell Allie because I don't want to get her upset. And I get that you don't want to get her upset, but you definitely are going to have to tell her.

Kelli (14:32.956)
Yeah, I mean, it's her future too.

Gina (14:33.586)
can't believe everybody doesn't have that conversation. Don't you think anybody getting married today would have a pre-nup conversation? Just in general, like we're talking about where we want to live, what kind of China we want, and then a pre-nup. I just think it would be a normal part.

Kelli (14:49.02)
Well, I think he was talking to Steven Jr. about the panic attack, right? He didn't want to tell her about the panic attack. This wasn't about the prenup at this point. Yeah.

Wendy (14:52.958)
Yes. Yes. Yes. Correct.

Gina (14:55.613)
Yeah.

No, but I'm just saying wouldn't a prenup be something that should come up in any con you know any conversation with any young couple getting married.

Kelli (15:04.13)
I mean, some people are some people are very against them. So it's a it's a touchy situation.

Gina (15:10.622)
But especially, yeah, she's making serious money. I'm surprised she didn't bring it up.

Wendy (15:18.712)
So then what happens? So Steven, as soon as Jesse leaves, he calls Cole to let Cole know what's going on with Jesse that he broke down. And then we see Jesse and Allie are going, they go to the wedding venue and Allie's mom is there. Cole goes home in the meantime and tells Casey that Jesse was having a panic attack. So now Casey knows, so he's got to tell Allie because Casey and Allie are very close. Like they talk all the time. Right.

Kelli (15:45.99)
Yeah, she's gonna tell her if he doesn't.

Wendy (15:49.466)
And Cole is trying to explain to Casey that, you know, Casey thinks that Jesse should talk to Ali about it. And absolutely, absolutely Jesse needs to talk to Ali about it.

Then when they're there at the venue for the wedding, you could see just by the way Jesse was interacting that he was like not really present. He just was there, right?

Kelli (16:14.566)
And you could also tell that she caught onto that. Like, I think she felt that vibe from him. Like, something was off and you could tell she realized it.

Wendy (16:19.298)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (16:23.116)
Yeah. I mean, she's known him.

Wendy (16:29.196)
Yeah, I mean, and then she said about he's gonna be building the arbor for the ceremony, which normally I can imagine would be an easy breezy thing for this guy to do, right? He's very, you know, hands on, can do anything, you know, manual labor, but you could just see, yep, I'm gonna be doing that. You could see he's so uncomfortable about this whole thing.

Kelli (16:38.886)
Yeah.

Kelli (16:42.246)
Yeah.

Wendy (16:51.242)
And then Cole's back, see Cole talking to Casey and he's like, you know, when we get married, we're just going to do like a small thing here on the farm. Maybe we just put a post up on Facebook. It won't be that stressful. And Casey's just kind of looking at him like, no, don't think so.

Kelli (17:07.083)
No, yeah, I don't think so.

Gina (17:08.676)
surprised they haven't done that wedding venue thing at the farm you know a lot of people that have farms do that they turn a barn into yeah that's big way yeah I do too my cousin my cousin did that it was one of the best weddings ever

Kelli (17:15.691)
God, yeah. Yes. I love that. I love the way that looks.

Kelli (17:26.417)
Yeah.

Wendy (17:27.584)
I like the farm look too. think it's very cool. Especially for them. mean, that's where that's their life, right? So certainly that,

Kelli (17:30.554)
Yeah.

Right. That venue though, that they were at was beautiful. Like where they were going to get married overlooking, that was gorgeous. I mean, we don't have that in Jersey, that's for sure.

Wendy (17:37.408)
Yes, it was beautiful.

Wendy (17:41.975)
Yes.

Wendy (17:45.94)
No, no we don't. We don't have any mountains or anything. You know, we just have flatlands. We have the beach.

Gina (17:51.41)
We do, we just have to drive up there. We got mountains, we just don't go up there. Yeah.

Kelli (17:52.083)
I mean, North Jersey, yeah, yeah. We have mountains in North Jersey, but we don't have any, mean, not that I know of, if somebody knows, yeah, if not, not like that. mean, we went, Joe played basketball way up North one time at like a, kind of like a Sportica, and there were all these mountains around it. And we're just, you know, we're from the shore. So I had like three kids in my car that were on the team and they were like, whoa. I'm like, I know, right?

Wendy (17:58.314)
Not like that.

Wendy (18:02.903)
Not like that.

Wendy (18:15.288)
Yeah.

Wendy (18:21.262)
So even when Cole's talking to Casey, know, he's kind of saying like, you know, the next step is marriage. And she's at this point, she's not even like, yeah, I don't know that that's, you know, she's

Gina (18:21.84)
We like our flatlands.

Kelli (18:22.406)
I'm going to the theater!

Gina (18:39.196)
Well, he went looking for rings. Yeah, he went looking for a ring. And then he goes to her and she's like, no.

Kelli (18:39.462)
I mean, and he tells her he picked out a ring and he tells her that.

Wendy (18:42.452)
Yeah. Well, yet. So the next thing is after that, then Christy goes out with Cole and she's excited about having a granddaughter. And Christy tells Cole, Christy says that the baby needs parents to be married.

Gina (19:00.591)
No, it doesn't. Needs parents to love each other.

Wendy (19:01.834)
Well, you know, and Cole, but then Cole's talking, yes, 100%. Cole's talking about budgeting for a ring. He's got it, he's like, I gotta do the elk hunt first. And that cost about $12,000. And Christie's like, no, like even in her confessional, she's like, my boys need to grow up. And I really like Christie.

Kelli (19:01.872)
No it doesn't.

Right. Right. And respect each other.

Gina (19:22.961)
$12,000 to hunt an elk. I mean, just think about it. I mean, I know you, I know, yeah, but you go away to like up to Montana and you know, they helicopter you in, it's all big thing. But you're married now, you have to make priorities. Well, you know, you're gonna relate, you have a baby, you have to set your priorities and $12,000 for an elk hunt?

Wendy (19:25.303)
Yeah.

I know. Yes.

Kelli (19:27.9)
That's what he was talking about, hunting an elk.

Wendy (19:41.24)
Well, he's not married. He's got a baby on the way.

Gina (19:51.547)
Honey, that $12,000 needs to go to a college fee. Right. How many? I'm sure he kills deer all the time on his farm during season. An elk is just a big deer.

Kelli (19:52.253)
And why do you want to kill an elk anyway? Why do you want to go up and kill an elk?

Kelli (20:04.154)
Yeah, leave those animals alone.

Gina (20:06.993)
I can't handle the hunting. I have it happen in my front yard. my God, we moved here, people knocking on our door. Can we hunt in front of you? yeah, my neighbor. No, it's my next door neighbor. had to say yes. And then I'd look out my window and he'd have like 12 deer hanging in his backyard. But you know what? He ate every part of it.

Kelli (20:08.676)
I know, I hate hunting. don't, it's not, I don't.

Kelli (20:16.818)
Did you say no?

Kelli (20:29.75)
No!

Gina (20:36.513)
He was a responsible hunter and he brought up the two nicest young men. God, these kids were babies when I moved here and they turned out to be absolutely wonderful young people. So I'm okay with the hunting because I saw how they were raised next door.

Kelli (20:49.468)
Well, that's nice. That's very sweet.

Kelli (20:55.258)
If they're going to eat it. Well, I guess is that what Cole was planning on? Like, do you eat elk? I would imagine, right? Or is this just for sport?

Wendy (21:01.39)
Listen, these guys are cattle. These guys are cattle farmers. killing cows every day. Like this is what they do. Are you forgetting where we're at? We're at a cattle ranch. Like, come on ladies, get this shit together. We're eating meat every day. We are not vegetarians. We need to kill meat to eat it. Okay. All right. Next.

Gina (21:01.785)
maybe put it on a wall.

Kelli (21:07.014)
That's true.

Yes, I'm forgetting where we're at.

Gina (21:14.405)
Yeah!

Kelli (21:22.118)
I know right I eat chicken every day of my life. I'm worried about the elk

Gina (21:29.155)
Next week, someone, one of us has to buy some of those steaks and try them. I'll volunteer.

Kelli (21:33.66)
Yeah.

Wendy (21:35.22)
Okay. So then Christie takes Cole shopping for a ring, right? She takes him to her jeweler and he's looking at the rings and the jeweler says, what kind of ring does she like? He's like, I think she likes a rectangle ring. And the jeweler brings out all these, it's so funny. It's just such a...

Kelli (21:49.894)
Did you see the way the jeweler looked at him? He's like, well, cushion cuts are very popular.

Gina (21:52.241)
Wait. I won't.

Wendy (21:54.666)
Yes, yes, right. He brings out all these different styles and then he picks out one that he likes and you know, he's like, I like this one. And it turns out that that one's only $10,000. And I say only because the El Contes is 12,000. So I mean, that's the bargain, right?

Kelli (21:57.084)
This so funny.

Kelli (22:08.7)
Right.

Gina (22:11.982)
That sounded like too good of a deal for that diamond. That was a nice yeah.

Kelli (22:15.346)
Totally agree with you because didn't he say it was four carrots?

Gina (22:19.168)
Yeah, I'm thinking that's gotta be really piss poor quality, right? To be $10,000?

Wendy (22:22.946)
You know what?

Kelli (22:22.994)
Yeah, four carrots for 10 grand. There's no way. There's no way. Was it a lab created diamond maybe? It had to be. Cause you're not getting a four carrot ring for 10 grand.

Gina (22:28.142)
No, no, no, if that, it was at Emerald.

Wendy (22:28.45)
You know.

Wendy (22:34.911)
sure it was lab created. Lab created diamonds.

Gina (22:40.428)
No, and you know what? I don't have a problem. And I used to tell young people all the time, like, you know, like, Kelly was getting back, you know what? Put a zerk in that ring, go by a really nice setting, put a zerk in there. And when you can afford it by the diamond, do that instead of getting her a ring she's not going to be happy with.

Wendy (23:00.236)
Yeah.

Gina (23:01.027)
But now these man-made diamonds are phenomenal looking. You can't tell the difference.

Kelli (23:06.384)
You can't tell the difference for sure.

Wendy (23:08.45)
You can't, I mean the jewelers can't, they test as diamonds. The lab created ones test as diamonds. So, you know, you can't tell the difference. So then after that we see Steven Jr. goes to the coffee shop and who walks in but Cala. I'm like, gosh, Steven, Steven.

Gina (23:17.849)
Wow.

Kelli (23:29.808)
He's really whipped on this one,

Wendy (23:32.512)
He really is.

Gina (23:32.644)
Well, think last they didn't they show him quality heard last time to set that up the end of last episode. Yeah.

Kelli (23:37.894)
Yes. Because I think I saw that like before this episode started.

Wendy (23:38.038)
Well, yeah.

Yeah. He said that, you know, it's been a few weeks now, the last few weeks, you know, with all the stress he's been under. And that was just three weeks ago. It was just three weeks ago that they had that big fight and she left. Just three weeks ago.

Kelli (23:59.579)
and that had something to do with the brother Cole.

Wendy (24:02.346)
Yes, because they were at the Ozarks.

Gina (24:03.981)
And in the podcast I heard, mother is paying, the mother is still paying her rent and her car payment.

And she has another so many months.

Kelli (24:14.64)
Wait, Steven Jr's mother, Christy, is paying Cala's rent and car payment. Why?

Gina (24:23.376)
She signed last episode, she signed as a co-signer on her rent, her lease. these are just clips of podcasts that I'm hearing on TikTok. And it was one of the brothers, it was a podcast one of the brothers were on, it wasn't the mother, because he was saying, yeah, my mom is still paying her rent and her car payment. She has another so many months left.

Kelli (24:49.862)
Why?

Wendy (24:51.726)
Because she's a good woman. She's a good, Christy's a good, she's a good woman. She really is.

Gina (24:51.791)
she cosigned.

Kelli (24:55.634)
But what's wrong with this Cala? What does she do for a living? Why isn't she paying her bills?

Gina (25:01.945)
Well, that's the girl that Steve Jr. met on the reality show, Joe Millionaire. Steve was on Joe Millionaire.

Kelli (25:08.242)
so she went on a reality show to meet a millionaire.

Gina (25:14.955)
and met Steve.

Wendy (25:16.973)
Yes.

Kelli (25:17.02)
So she's a gold digger, like, and admittedly, admittedly, because she went on that show. I mean...

Gina (25:18.831)
She's, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And the thing was, you didn't know which one was a millionaire. There were two guys. There was Steve and a really good looking guy. And we knew who it was, but the ladies didn't know who it was until after they picked them and stuff.

Kelli (25:41.18)
So this girl just wants to be famous and marry somebody rich. One or the other. She wants to become famous and make her own money from being famous or marry somebody rich. Okay. So is that what the family's problem is with her?

Gina (25:44.192)
huh. Yeah.

Gina (25:49.646)
Mm-hmm.

Gina (25:54.604)
Well, that reality show was five years ago. They've been together a long time.

Kelli (25:58.764)
did she have a profession before this?

Wendy (26:01.006)
I I don't know what it was.

Gina (26:05.794)
just like everybody her age, a content creator.

Kelli (26:10.098)
Okay.

Wendy (26:11.15)
Okay.

Kelli (26:15.462)
that only works for certain people. Paige DeSorbo, that's who that works for.

Wendy (26:20.044)
Yeah, that really worked out well for her.

Kelli (26:22.17)
It sure did. One of the few, but God bless her for it.

Gina (26:23.084)
One of the few.

Wendy (26:25.432)
So Stephen Jr. says he still has an RSVP to Jesse's wedding. I mean, he did, he already RSVP'd and he didn't change it. So he already said that they were both going. So, you know, it's still, she can still go with him. And I'm like, are you out of your damn mind? Are you out of your damn mind? You know, she said it was such, it's such an uncomfortable situation to be in because, you know.

what happened in the Ozarks. She got into a huge fight with Cole in the Ozarks because she was complaining about Stephen and how he had it so easy and he's had everything handed to him and she had to work for it. Meanwhile, she hasn't worked for anything and Cole called her out on it. Cole called her out on it and said to her, you have no idea what you're talking about and just put her in her place. The fact.

Gina (27:16.024)
They did not grow up with money. Those boys didn't grow up. Yeah, and those boys did not grow up with money. This money is is new found.

Kelli (27:16.21)
I mean the fact that she's allowing their mother to pay her bills.

Wendy (27:23.191)
No.

Kelli (27:25.839)
really?

Gina (27:27.435)
That's why the mother didn't live with him because she had to work to support the family. So she had to go to Kansas City, she was saying.

Kelli (27:36.284)
So this farm didn't really pick up until recently.

Gina (27:40.103)
I don't think they started making money until they got into the other businesses. It's not just a farm. Now you could buy the stakes. They don't sell them wholesale. They only sell them mail order retail. They have the car washes, the coffee shops. They sell jerky. Joe Rogan or somebody like Joe Rogan was saying, they're not farmers. They're businessmen. They know how to make money.

Kelli (27:47.264)
Okay.

Kelli (28:09.264)
Okay, we'll go for them.

Gina (28:10.029)
Yeah.

Wendy (28:13.143)
So Cal leaves it at like, we'll see. Then we see Cole goes over to Casey's office and picks her up. I don't even know what Casey does. Like this is the first time, like her workplace. I still don't know what she does.

Kelli (28:26.428)
And she was kind of walking out of there, right? Like, so you didn't really see, did we see inside? Yeah.

Wendy (28:30.254)
No, you didn't see. No, no, we didn't see anything. We didn't see anything. And he picks her up and he winds up taking her to the new house that they're building, the construction site. And he already has set up this little fire pit in the chairs there. you know, I really thought that he was going to propose then, but he gets down, you know, and he said, you know, I have one more thing. I know a good thing he didn't is right. He's like, I have one more thing for you. And

Kelli (28:50.876)
Good thing you didn't.

Wendy (28:58.932)
He pretends to get on his knee and he gives her a house key with a key chain on it that says, new baby, new house. And she loved that gift. She was very happy with that. And you know, she likes the simple things. She doesn't need all the flash and you know, well, right. No, I'm just saying like the simple things like, you know, take me out here and you know, have dinner with me. Like you don't have to do these big

Gina (29:14.893)
But she knew that she was getting the house. It's not like... Yeah.

Kelli (29:26.8)
Yeah, cook a hot dog on a stick over an open fire. I'm good. I'm all set.

Wendy (29:29.851)
Right. Right. Like just simple things, right?

Gina (29:29.972)
the same way.

To me on Valentine's Day, get some takeout, cuddle up and watch TV. I go to work every day. I've been to every restaurant around. Just, just, you know, let's be together.

Kelli (29:39.666)
Absolutely, you're a fool if you go out to dinner on Valentine's Day. Yep.

Wendy (29:49.752)
Yep.

Kelli (29:50.385)
I agree with you, but I'll tell you what, one of the best Valentine dinners Eric and I ever had was at Vernalte Winery. I think it was the first year we were dating, because he took me there on our third date, and then that following, that was, we started dating in the spring, and the following Valentine's Day, we went to Vernalte Winery. That was great.

Gina (29:57.29)
No way.

Gina (30:09.014)
You're the first person I ever heard say that good food there.

Kelli (30:13.124)
I loved the food there. I don't know how it is now. That was, you know, 20 something years ago.

Gina (30:15.488)
You have you been there? Yeah.

Gina (30:21.142)
They have new owners. They've done it. You got to see a place looks great. They've done a lot to it. This is a wide way around the corner from my house. That's why I know a lot about it.

Kelli (30:26.139)
I have heard that.

Wendy (30:30.008)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (30:30.032)
Yeah. The wine's not great, I'll be honest with you, but the food was good.

Gina (30:34.1)
I was on an airplane once and a guy asked me where I lived. said, South Jersey. wouldn't know. And he says, no, I know a little South Jersey. I said, it's right near like Renault winery. And he's like, that is the worst wine in the whole country. This guy worked in something and it was, but it's good. It's cheap. You can buy a bottle for 10 bucks.

Kelli (30:48.115)
It is. It is.

Wendy (30:48.802)
Ha ha ha ha.

Kelli (30:54.2)
It was exact.

Wendy (30:56.366)
Okay, well, now we're not gonna get them to sponsor us. Thanks a lot. No.

Gina (30:59.755)
hahahaha

Kelli (31:01.593)
Oh shit, and it is wine, yeah. It's just, I'll tell you what, there's a couple that aren't bad, but you certainly don't go there for the wine. You go there for the atmosphere and we went for the food, because it was so good. But again, it was different owners. was 20 something years ago, so who knows?

Wendy (31:02.638)
It's okay. They weren't sponsoring us anyway.

Gina (31:11.637)
No.

Wendy (31:19.928)
So after he gives her the key, that's when he says to her, you know what comes next? Next step is marriage. And he lets her know that he went ring shopping with his mom. And you could see the look on her face. And she said that she doesn't want to rush into it just because it's the next step. We don't need to rush into this. And I really like that for her. I really do. And they've been together over five years also. It's not like this just happened. They've been together over five years. So good for her.

Kelli (31:40.666)
Yeah, I totally agree.

Wendy (31:48.844)
You know, good for her. Then we see, the next thing we see is Kyle is back at Steven's house and Cole comes over. You know what? I do not think that Cole needed to apologize. I'm sorry. I don't think he needed to.

Kelli (31:49.308)
Yeah.

Gina (32:03.413)
Who was that close,

Wendy (32:05.522)
At Steven's house, Calla was there and Cole comes over and Cole says he felt embarrassed and you know, he apologizes to Calla about that whole blow up. I know he did it for his brother. I know his brother asked him to do it. I think, listen.

Gina (32:20.331)
think that was a gentlemanly thing to do.

Kelli (32:23.666)
think he did it for, what's her name, Casey, his girlfriend? I think he did it for her too.

Wendy (32:26.742)
Yeah, yeah, it could be. Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (32:31.292)
I didn't see what happened, why he was apologizing.

Gina (32:34.889)
He was drunk, obnoxious.

Wendy (32:37.399)
So was she.

Kelli (32:37.724)
But listen, if his mother's paying this girl's bills, you know, I'm sure he has strong opinions about it.

Gina (32:39.083)
Yeah.

Wendy (32:45.803)
Absolutely.

Kelli (32:47.196)
But that's the impression I got. I thought he apologized more so for Casey.

Gina (32:47.659)
So it's a lot of money too.

Wendy (32:53.678)
I think it was probably a combination.

Gina (32:53.803)
Wasn't the rent like $2,800 a month on the apartment? $2,500, yeah.

Wendy (32:58.24)
was 25. It was 2,500.

Kelli (33:00.604)
Get a job, Calla, get a job.

Wendy (33:06.136)
So Callis says, you know, it takes a lot to come and apologize. And it meant, you know, it meant a lot to her. But she's still not sure about going to the wedding. She's, you know, she doesn't want any more drama. I so hope she's not at that wedding. I hope she's not at that wedding.

Gina (33:17.986)
please. That's all you want is drama. She's going. She loves drama. If you're meeting your boyfriend on a reality show, you like drama.

Kelli (33:20.562)
She's totally going to that wedding.

Wendy (33:23.406)
I don't want her at the wedding. I don't want her at the wedding.

Kelli (33:26.556)
She's definitely going to the wedding.

Yep, and she is gonna wear some kind of show-stopping dress, I would imagine.

Wendy (33:36.526)
Hehehehehe

Kelli (33:39.378)
for sure.

Wendy (33:40.952)
So then the next thing we see is Jesse and Braden, they're at this indoor golf place, that's the youngest brother. And then all of a sudden, Steven Jr. and Cala come walking in. And I don't think Jesse really knew. mean, he looked to me to be genuinely surprised that she was there. And then a little bit later, Casey show up and Allie's doing stuff for her shower. So that's why she wasn't there.

Kelli (33:56.272)
I totally agree,

Kelli (34:08.946)
Her shower? Isn't the wedding a week away?

Gina (34:09.022)
You know, Ally is older than Jesse.

Wendy (34:12.192)
Yeah, I mean, it's a week away in TV time. I don't know.

Gina (34:16.445)
TV time.

Kelli (34:19.58)
They said a week away though on the show.

Gina (34:21.867)
thought they did you're right I think they did but I want to I'm gonna I gotta go Google I have to make a chart on how old everybody is like these guys could be 21 they could be 35 I have no idea I was shocked when Ali said she was older than Jesse

Kelli (34:24.828)
She didn't ever shower yet?

Wendy (34:31.851)
Okay.

Kelli (34:37.618)
Well, Jesse and Allie, Jesse and Allie said they'll be together 12 years by the time they get married and they started dating at 16. So they must be 28 or nearing 28.

Gina (34:48.17)
He was 16. He was 16. She was older. She said, I waited for him to get his driver's license before I went out with him.

Kelli (34:56.26)
Okay, so he's 28 or around 28.

Gina (35:00.038)
Okay, and is he the youngest other than Braden?

Wendy (35:02.542)
No, no, no, no. It's Stephen Jr. and he's 30. He's already said he's 30. So Jesse is 28 and then Cole and then Braden.

Gina (35:15.228)
Okay. Cole looks older than all of them. That's why it messes me up.

Kelli (35:19.266)
I agree. Well, I think Steven Jr. looks the oldest, but I think Cole looks the next, you know, like he could be the second. Jesse just looks very young.

Gina (35:24.669)
Yeah.

And Jesse, Jesse looks just like Casey from Yellowstone. And now we have a Casey in the show too, so it's really confusing because I want to call him Casey all the time because he looks just

Wendy (35:32.14)
He does. He does look like Casey from Yellowstone.

Kelli (35:39.708)
I never watched Yellowstone. I know, everybody says it.

Wendy (35:42.647)
You never will.

Gina (35:43.708)
I just had my I took my Yellowstone t-shirt off before here. just had I did I had my Yellowstone t-shirt on. I'm like, maybe I don't know maybe that you can't you know on YouTube or whatever.

Kelli (35:52.024)
Kelli (35:56.763)
Hmm.

Yeah.

Wendy (35:59.822)
So then Cole asks Jesse if he told Ali yet that he was nervous and he said that he has not yet. The next thing we see is Jesse, Jake and Cole are all harvesting at nighttime. And when Jesse gets home after that night harvest, that's when he sits down with Ali and tells her about that panic attack.

And he starts telling her that he was hyperventilating and his heart was racing and, you know, beating through his chest. Now she's a nurse practitioner, so she knows exactly what that is, right? And I felt like by the look on her face, she was like...

Kelli (36:36.518)
Right.

Wendy (36:44.83)
you know, like, I'm here, like, why didn't you, you know, like, why didn't you come to me? That's how I felt she looked. He said he, right. He said that he feels, and then when he said it, I feel like I'm living a double life. Everyone thinks we have this perfect relationship. I, and that I'm the perfect guy. And I think that that's the problem is he feels like he has all this pressure, you know, people do think he's the perfect guy, right?

Gina (36:51.195)
Especially because she's a nurse.

Kelli (37:12.082)
Yeah.

Wendy (37:14.208)
And he, like that's a hard thing to live up to. You know, he's already said that he doesn't think he's good enough for her. And you know, he's crying. He's crying and tells her that, you know, he didn't want to bring this to her because he doesn't want to, you know, to let her or anyone else down.

Gina (37:20.956)
Honey, if you were 50 years older... He's so adorable.

Gina (37:35.302)
Wait, he mentioned a pre-nup.

Wendy (37:38.196)
Yeah. And then we kind of see her in her.

Gina (37:40.582)
That's what he should have done. Excuse me. He should have mentioned the prenup while he's telling her about the anxiety attack, because she feels bad for him. by the way, you know what brought on my anxiety attack? Was my brother's telling me I had to get a prenup.

Kelli (37:47.953)
Yeah

Kelli (37:56.189)
And that could very well be true. That could be part of it. He just doesn't realize it. Like that might be an underlying stressor for him that he's not even realizing is there.

Gina (37:56.594)
That's what you should have done.

Gina (38:07.336)
They already own two houses. It's not like, you know, oh, all these big things are going to happen. They've been living a married life. They've been living together.

Wendy (38:10.443)
Yeah.

Kelli (38:15.601)
Right.

Wendy (38:15.694)
But they're not living together. And that's one of the things that Christy brings up because she's in the city many nights and they're not together enough. And that's what Christy... Right. Right. So I mean, I think her response was awesome. she asked him if he thinks like postponing the wedding might be something that he wants to or needs to do.

Gina (38:26.696)
They're not together, but they co-mingle everything.

Wendy (38:42.39)
We don't get an answer yet at this point. And in her confessional, you know, she's crying. And I don't blame her. I'd be crying too. I was surprised she wasn't crying then.

Kelli (38:49.948)
Well, especially to have to do this on camera.

Wendy (38:52.766)
Right, right. I was surprised she wasn't crying then. I mean, the fact that he was and, you know, he's opening. I'm sure that was a very hard scene. I'm sure that was a very hard scene for her. But like you said, we know that whether they're married or not, they're together and they have the baby. So there's a happy ending. We know that there's a happy ending.

Kelli (39:10.214)
and they have a baby, yeah. Sure.

Gina (39:13.137)
And I love that the sister-in-laws are so close.

Kelli (39:16.338)
Yeah, I like that too.

Wendy (39:18.336)
Yeah, well, you know what they kind of need to be.

Gina (39:19.003)
And that must be tough for Cala. Yeah, that must be tough for Cala because Cala is all about image. And you look at Casey and Allie and they don't give two shits. No.

Wendy (39:31.029)
No!

Kelli (39:31.534)
No, I was thinking that as I was watching this, I'm like, they're both beautiful girls. Beautiful, Casey and Allie. They are gorgeous girls. exactly. They're like us, like look at me. My hair's in a bun. You know, it's Sunday. I'm cooking, I'm cleaning, I'm food shopping, I'm doing laundry, and now I'm doing a podcast. Like I'm not layering makeup on and blowing my hair out. I'm sorry. This is me on a Sunday. This is what you get.

Gina (39:37.159)
Gorgeous. But they're not putting on pretenses.

Wendy (39:37.261)
Right.

Gina (39:45.094)
Yeah.

Wendy (39:54.594)
Right.

Gina (39:57.947)
Yep. And Calla walks around with her implants hanging out and her tight little Hoochie mama outfits.

Kelli (40:03.122)
But, yeah, right, because she's trying to be famous.

Wendy (40:08.216)
Yeah.

Gina (40:08.506)
Yeah.

Kelli (40:10.758)
No, I love those two girls, Casey and Allie. They're very genuine girls.

Gina (40:16.71)
I mean, I'm just looking at the picture behind Wendy and she Casey is just glowing.

Wendy (40:17.035)
I do too.

Wendy (40:23.074)
Yeah, they are.

Kelli (40:23.792)
Is that her with the blazer on?

Gina (40:25.902)
No, that's the mother. She's the pregnant one to her side. The mother doesn't look old enough. Yeah, the mother is very young looking.

Kelli (40:27.715)
that's why I thought that was the mother.

Wendy (40:28.782)
Yeah, the blue dress, she's holding her belly.

Wendy (40:35.022)
No, well, I don't think so. mean, no, I don't actually. I don't know that that's nice, but I think she looks her age. Let's put it that way.

Kelli (40:35.323)
Yes.

Gina (40:37.988)
You don't think so?

Kelli (40:46.61)
How old is she? She's gotta be close to our age now.

Wendy (40:49.486)
I think she, I don't know. Let's see, how old is Christy?

Gina (40:50.278)
She's got to be in her 50s. If Stephen Senior is 30, is that what you said? Stephen Senior was 30?

Kelli (40:52.754)
That's what I'm thinking in her 50s.

Kelli (41:00.402)
Steven Jr., he's 30, right, you said? Because then Jesse's 28.

Wendy (41:04.268)
How old is Christy McBee?

Gina (41:07.184)
So she's gotta be early 50s.

Kelli (41:09.98)


Wendy (42:16.95)
Miss, right? Not her age.

Wendy (42:25.944)
Good for her.

Wendy (42:30.232)
Good for her.

Gina (42:32.048)
There's no wiki on her.

Wendy (42:34.562)
There you go.

Kelli (42:35.196)
Well, how old's him? He, him, I don't know what that...

Wendy (42:39.054)
The father's 51, actually, I remember seeing on the screen, the father's 51. The father's 51.

Kelli (42:42.146)
Ow.

Gina (42:43.952)
Guess what? I found her in the white pages and her it says age 50s.

Wendy (42:47.553)
What?

Wendy (42:51.052)
Yeah, that's what we guessed.

Gina (42:53.06)
Yeah, but it doesn't it just says age 50s.

Kelli (42:56.658)
50s it doesn't give an actual age Damn, look at her Yeah, I just looked up Steve McBee senior and it says 52. So he probably just turned 52 Yeah, so

Wendy (42:56.685)
Right.

Gina (42:59.044)
Yeah, that's weird.

Wendy (43:01.805)
Yeah.

50. Yeah, when it

Gina (43:07.512)
And it mentions, and she owns a business called Lantel Communications. Because I think she got that in the divorce or she started that after.

Wendy (43:14.509)
Yes.

Wendy (43:18.926)
She bought, yes, after the divorce, she took over that company and then she brought on a partner and then they spent 18 months. wasn't in good shape, the business. And the two of them had the same work ethic, her and her partner, I don't know who her partner is. In 18 months, they really turned the company around and the company's doing very well right now. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm team Christy, 100%. She's actually, I mean, as far as...

Gina (43:40.879)
Good for her.

Wendy (43:47.82)
females go on that show. She's right on top there. I mean, she's

Gina (43:50.277)
All right, I found something else here. I don't want to put it up because it has her address. It says her age is 51, born November 5th, 1973.

Kelli (43:50.898)
Yeah, I mean...

Wendy (44:01.582)
Well, that tracks, because like I said,

Kelli (44:02.054)
Yeah, I mean, that's, yeah, I'm gonna be 51 in two weeks. So I thought she was like around our age.

Gina (44:03.566)
Yeah.

Gina (44:09.943)
You could have a 30 year old too.

Wendy (44:10.21)
Yeah.

Can you imagine? Me neither. Me neither.

Gina (44:18.063)
You're both going to be there.

Wendy (44:24.046)
So we're gonna have to wait and see what happens. I hope that we get another season sooner than later. I hope I don't have to wait like a whole year to find out like...

Gina (44:32.463)
Sadly, Bravo doesn't do that.

Wendy (44:36.418)
That's unfortunate because these babies are babies. I want to see them. Like I want them to be filming now, you know? I think that the...

Gina (44:39.813)
Yeah.

Kelli (44:40.241)
Yeah.

Gina (44:42.777)
And what is with Bravo? We have two Housewives shows on the same night and we don't have any Housewives any other night. What is going on? I don't know.

Kelli (44:48.332)
Ew. Why are they doing that?

Wendy (44:52.096)
I think because Miami wasn't doing that well and they're trying to, they're trying.

Kelli (44:55.024)
I think that's what it was. They figured if people are watching OC and Miami comes on after they'll just watch it. I agree with you, Wendy. I think that's what it is. I'll tell you what, I can't, I'm not enjoying enjoying either one of them. It's, too much with the petty cat fights, the bullshit. I, I'm just over it. I did hear though, that New Jersey's is a test filming. Did you guys hear that? Melissa Margaret.

Gina (45:00.709)
I think Miami's better than OC. And I'm not watching that Kings court.

Wendy (45:09.57)
Me neither.

Gina (45:22.73)
No, but I think we're going to.

Wendy (45:22.84)
I mean,

Kelli (45:25.104)
Dolores and I even heard Teresa was test filming with other potential housewives. I don't know if it's true, but that's what bravos and cocktails say and they're typically on point.

Gina (45:35.833)
want.

Gina (45:41.156)
And I want Danielle and Rachel Fuda with the other ladies. Get rid of Jackie.

Wendy (45:48.024)
I don't think we're getting that.

Kelli (45:48.206)
I didn't hear, unfortunately, I didn't hear anything about Danielle and Rachel, but Jen is definitely gone. Jennifer Aiden is gone.

Gina (45:51.606)
No, no.

And Danielle and Rachel are definitely gone. But I see Danielle on Instagram and she cracks me up.

Kelli (45:59.975)
Which is very sad.

Kelli (46:06.467)
Absolutely.

Gina (46:07.554)
That's a Jersey girl. OK? That's a Jersey girl.

Kelli (46:09.65)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (46:11.918)
speaking of that, you know what the new thing is? Maybe this is where we'll see Danielle. You know, Danielle's friends with J-Wow. Do you guys know that? J-Wow. From Jersey Shore.

Kelli (46:18.962)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, they were just at friggin' resort together. Like the day after I was there, I missed Sammy. Sammy was there the day after she opened her boutique. And then the other, I think I was there the day before J Woww and Danielle were there at the pool. My timing sucks.

Gina (46:19.958)
I don't know who J-Wow is. okay.

Kelli (46:44.422)
Yeah, I knew that though. knew she was hosting something. Melissa Gorgas, she was hosting something at the nightclub.

Gina (46:46.465)
Wait, I was at Ocean yesterday. Who was there?

Wendy (46:49.55)
Melissa.

Gina (46:52.195)
I dropped some friends, I went out to dinner with friends and I dropped them off at Ocean and I left and all of a sudden I'm driving. They said to me, can you drive at night? I'm like, no. I dropped them off and I'm driving the wrong way down a street and there's cars coming at me. I can't drive. I can't drive at night. I can't, I can't.

Wendy (46:53.271)
the HQ.

Kelli (47:09.586)
my god, Gina.

Wendy (47:10.926)
Gina, you're not, no driving at night, Gina.

Wendy (47:18.423)
No, that's

Kelli (47:18.752)
no, please don't do that. Holy shit.

Gina (47:21.709)
But you got to be careful when you leave there. It's easy to do that. But.

Wendy (47:21.72)
That's scary.

Kelli (47:25.559)
It's very, when you're leaving any of those casinos.

Gina (47:29.731)
Borgata, I can get in and out with my eyes closed, but nothing, no.

Wendy (47:32.76)
And let's not do that either.

Kelli (47:32.806)
Yeah.

Kelli (47:37.906)
So what else did you hear, Wendy?

Wendy (47:38.03)
Okay, Dorita, Dorita, Mob Wives, Dorita, Dorita, Mob Wives is getting a show. It's coming. it's coming. Yep, something's coming very soon. She's single. She's also single. I think there may be a book and then there's a show coming. Danielle, that's what I was gonna say. She's also friends with Danielle.

Gina (47:44.055)
Dorinda. Dorida.

Kelli (47:45.968)
No, Dorita from Mob Wives.

Kelli (47:51.09)
Kelli (48:02.386)
Well, isn't she friends with Danielle? Perfect.

Wendy (48:07.726)
Cabral. So yes, yes, they're friends. Yes. Yeah. I mean, there's a fine line between Staten Island and Jersey girls to be quite honest with you. You know?

Gina (48:08.365)
Cabral?

Kelli (48:10.288)
Yeah, Danielle grew up on Staten Island. She didn't grow up in Jersey.

Gina (48:13.441)
Yeah, that's right. I know.

Gina (48:19.735)
Yeah, Danielle's a Jersey girl. You know what? There's just a very expensive bridge. That's the only difference. Yeah.

Kelli (48:27.89)
That's the only difference.

Wendy (48:30.936)
So that's something maybe, I don't know. I did see that though.

Kelli (48:35.9)
hope we see Danielle again. I hope we see Rachel again. I really wanted to see that little Lorenzo. He's adorable. I'm pissed that, you know, the show got all screwed up and it really did. I totally agree with you.

Gina (48:49.6)
And that's all because of Louie. Louie is 100 % to blame for that. Nobody could tell me any different.

Kelli (48:57.468)
I totally agree with you because before Louie came on the scene, Teresa and Joe Gorga were fine. Teresa and Melissa were fine. Louie came in and threw a wrench in the whole thing. They were all getting along. The season prior to Louie coming on. Except the whole thing about her saying that Evan cheated on Jackie, but I'm gonna say something.

Gina (49:06.784)
They were tolerating each other. Yep.

Kelli (49:23.674)
I'm starting to think that Evan did cheat on Jackie. And I'm starting to think that there's evidence out there that it's true and they have gone to great lengths to cover it up because of his profession. There were a couple of things I saw and I'm starting to think that he really did cheat.

Gina (49:26.848)
I heard that was true.

Gina (49:44.354)
Can I say something? Look, you know me, I'm the biggest, I love reality, I love drama, I love fighting. I think you should be able to keep certain things in the closet. don't think something like that, what broke my heart, and I can't stand the bitch, is Jen Aiden. When it all came out, how Bill cheated on her, and it was with a rep in his office, my heart broke for her. It really did. Even though I don't like her, my heart broke for her.

Kelli (49:54.831)
I agree.

Gina (50:13.867)
That was horrible.

Kelli (50:14.524)
agree with you, but I do understand why Margaret did what she did. Because Jennifer Aiden was horrible to Margaret and dragged her for leaving her husband for the plumber. And made numerous derogatory remarks to her. So I understand why Margaret did what she did, but I agree with you, because of her, only because of her kids.

Gina (50:19.657)
Yes, I do too.

Gina (50:29.215)
Yeah, I'm not saying she didn't deserve it, but I still felt bad.

Gina (50:36.267)
Do you know why?

Kelli (50:44.165)
I felt bad.

Gina (50:45.141)
I that a lot of women couldn't give two shits that their husband cheated on them. can't handle the humiliation. Being cheated on is the most humiliating thing that could happen to you. And I think that's why a lot of women are upset about it, because a lot of them don't give a shit about their husbands wishing they were gone, you know? But I did feel bad for Jen.

Kelli (50:54.183)
yeah!

Kelli (51:08.732)
But Jennifer, knowing that that happened to her, should have handled her business much differently on that show when it came to Margaret. She, I mean...

Gina (51:17.131)
Jen Aiden should have brought that out from the beginning because she knew it was already out there. Everybody knew about it.

Kelli (51:22.59)
Or not go hard for somebody for infidelity, knowing what's in your closet. Just button it up, man. You wanna go after her for something else, sure, but not the infidelity because you're a hypocrite then.

Wendy (51:30.488)
who admitted it. Right.

Gina (51:33.729)
Yeah.

Wendy (51:43.608)
Well, I mean, it wasn't her that was unfaithful though. It was her husband.

Kelli (51:48.647)
I understand, but you're still married to him and continue to have children with him. You forgave him, but yet you're making Margaret look like the devil for doing it.

Wendy (51:50.894)
I mean

Wendy (52:02.38)
Well, I'm just saying, not that I'm defending her because, and again, I'm not a fan of Jennifer's either, but that's why she was doing it is because Margaret was that other woman. Like she was the one, it was a woman. Like it was the other woman. It wasn't Jen that did it. And Jen in her mind would never do that. But Margaret did do it and admitted to doing it. And she doesn't have respect for people like that because of what happened.

Kelli (52:18.546)
Sure, sure.

Wendy (52:32.066)
to her with her husband. And again, not that it's right, not that it's right, because it is not right in any circumstance. Right.

Kelli (52:34.076)
Yeah, I get it.

Kelli (52:38.544)
No, because if you don't want that coming out, then stop clawing at someone who knows about it, who can bring it out. You pushed her too far. I don't agree with it.

Wendy (52:46.016)
Right. Right.

Gina (52:50.507)
Cause we all know Marge, Marge is like a pit bull and finds everything out. Everything. God, she has to come back. I love her. Marge.

Kelli (52:54.844)
Mm-hmm. Yep.

Kelli (53:00.144)
I just read her book, Gina. It's so good.

Gina (53:02.773)
I gotta get it. So you heard that they're test filming people? Is that what you said? Like new people?

Kelli (53:04.764)
So good.

Kelli (53:10.012)
Yeah, so Dolores Melissa.

Margaret and supposedly Teresa are filming with potential new housewives

Gina (53:23.058)
Okay. Interesting.

Kelli (53:25.842)
So they're testing out the new people, but those four are most likely coming back. I mean, Margaret posted a picture of herself.

Kelli (55:04.569)
I never was.

Kelli (55:11.868)
She's all produced. She's overly produced.

Gina (55:14.239)
And I'm okay, you know, it's okay because we kind of need that to keep the show going. But she's so nasty. Nasty.

Kelli (55:23.09)
Yeah.

Wendy (55:23.16)
don't feel like we do. I don't feel like we do. This is where I disagree with people.

Gina (55:27.763)
I don't like it to be overproduced, but I like the drama.

Wendy (55:31.254)
I don't really like the drama, to be honest with you. I really don't. And I know that a lot of people...

Kelli (55:35.612)
mean a little bit of drama is okay, but once you talking about people's kids and their husbands and their...

Wendy (55:38.944)
It's.

Gina (55:40.797)
Yeah, who's going to watch two people bake cookies? I'll turn on Food Network if I want that.

Wendy (55:45.324)
It doesn't have to be baking cookies. It can be going on trips and having fun and laughing. it doesn't have to be all drama. It doesn't have to be all backstabbing. It doesn't have to be that way.

Gina (55:53.395)
think that would get.

That would get too old too fast.

Wendy (56:00.246)
I don't know. I say try it. I say try it.

Gina (56:01.215)
year.

Gina (56:05.353)
Bring back Danielle Staub.

Wendy (56:08.03)
god no! No!

Kelli (56:08.24)
No! No!

Gina (56:11.647)
Kim DePaulo.

Wendy (56:14.194)
my God. Gina, Gina, Gina, Gina.

Kelli (56:14.86)
no, I can't stand Kim D.

Gina (56:16.819)
Can you imagine those two?

Kelli (56:20.914)
I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what. I'd rather see Danielle Staub on Real Housewives of New Jersey than Teresa.

Gina (56:28.99)
Me too.

Kelli (56:30.864)
I'll say that. I really think it's time for Teresa to go. really think, and give her her own show because then I have the choice to not watch it. I have to fast forward through her scenes because I can't stand Louie. And I really, I'm.

Gina (56:32.211)
Yep, me too.

Gina (56:47.42)


Wendy (58:08.238)
Okay, so until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Please give us five star reviews and subscribe. Bye.

Kelli (58:18.63)
Bye.

Gina (58:19.538)
Bye.