RHOA S16 Reunion Part 1 – “Unfinished Business & Unexpected Apologies”

Podcast Summary: RHOA S16 Reunion Part 1 – “Unfinished Business & Unexpected Apologies”

The reunion kicks off chaotically with the cast arriving hours late—Andy is left waiting solo while the ladies lounge and Porsha naps post-procedure. The biggest shocker: Britt Eady chooses not to attend the reunion, leaving the women stunned and disappointed, especially Shamea and Kelli, who were ready to hold her accountable. Drew claims Britt even threatened a lawsuit weeks prior.

Andy sets the tone by asking for intentions; Porsha delivers a heartfelt message about healing and being back to herself, signaling she’s ready to either close doors or move forward.

Cynthia joins the couch and discusses her role as a supportive presence and addresses "hood" commentary from the cast. She gives a quick update on her current relationship and seems mostly unbothered.

Porsha breaks down over the loss of her cousin Londi. She opens up about her prenup, her husband being detained by ICE, and confirms she did her due diligence before marrying Simon. Questions arise about Gerald and Simon’s friendship and whether Angela introduced her to Simon—tape rollbacks show contradictions and confusion in their timelines.

Viewer questions stir the pot. Kelli is accused of being messy when questioning Porsha’s marriage motives. Kelli and Porsha debate who was really vulnerable during their divorces. Another viewer calls Porsha out for joking about Angela’s husband, which leads to more timeline drama and shady flashbacks.

Porsha’s living arrangements, finances, and her parenting relationship with Dennis are discussed—Kelli throws light shade, but Porsha holds her ground.

Drew stirs tension by saying Porsha's return was a flop, claiming her only storyline was her past with Dennis. The Dennis-Drew rumor resurfaces, which Porsha shuts down. However, she does give Drew props for her music and apologizes for crossing the line on a business front.

In a rare moment of vulnerability, Porsha apologizes directly to Drew for meeting with Ralph out of pettiness. The moment is emotional and sincere, with both women in tears. Angela, dry as ever, notes “17 episodes later,” but the apology seems to land well with Drew. Porsha admits she’s still healing but trying to take accountability.

Transcript

Wendy (00:01.151)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:04.205)
I'm Kelly.

Wendy (00:05.663)
We are talking about Real Housewives of Atlanta reunion season 16. First episode. So I think it's, they don't title. Yeah, reunion part one. I thought it was interesting how it started out. You know, we see Phaedra looking for Brit, walking around looking for Brit. I guess the reason I thought it was interesting is because Cynthia had talked about it on Humble Brag.

Kelli (00:15.0)
They don't title these, huh? They just say reunion episode one,

Wendy (00:34.939)
And she said that producers had her go check and she's the one who like announced it, but that's not what happened. So.

Kelli (00:44.258)
No, so it is interesting because production completely, like obviously Cynthia is telling the truth, she has no reason to lie, and then production turned it around. You know what I thought was interesting, and it's funny because I listened to Tamra and Dolores, I just started listening to their episode today talking about this, and I only got like maybe 10 minutes in. But we see a couple of the girls get dropped off.

Wendy (00:52.031)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (01:09.002)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (01:13.26)
and then we see Portia sleeping in her dressing room. So Delores said to Tamara, did they sleep at the studio? And Tamara's like, no, we saw everybody get out of their cars. And I was thinking, no, Delores is right. Portia was sleeping. Maybe she just got there super early. I don't know, but Portia was definitely sleeping. And everybody else got out of a car.

Wendy (01:16.894)
Right.

Wendy (01:31.369)
Yeah, she was.

Wendy (01:35.753)
Yes, I agree with that. I agree with that. Yeah, I put she was napping on the couch. mean, sleeping, napping. She was definitely laying on the couch. You know, yeah.

Kelli (01:44.654)
Maybe she just got there early and figured, let me just get my ass there and then, you know, wake me up when we're ready.

Wendy (01:53.995)
It did look like she had some partially some stuff done. It's not like she, know, maybe she didn't.

Kelli (01:59.244)
Right.

Well, I think they showed Phaedra going into her dressing room at 8.30 and she said, what time are we starting? And she said nine. So she had to have had something done by then. Portia's not gonna get ready for a reunion in a half hour.

Wendy (02:06.653)
Nine, right.

Yikes.

Right, because they got there at 630. Like we see them start arriving and it says 630 a.m.

Kelli (02:17.536)
Yeah, so she probably just got there, had some shit done, and then took a nap.

Wendy (02:21.053)
Right, the ladies are supposed to be starting taping at nine, but then we see Andy sitting on the couch by himself at 1130. And then all of a sudden they start coming in. I mean, that is crazy. Seriously, that is so.

Kelli (02:30.222)
That's crazy.

Kelli (02:35.468)
And Dolores was like, that would never fly on our show. That would never fly.

Wendy (02:39.591)
No, I mean, and that's probably why Portia was laying down, because she knows her castmates, right? Like, why am going to sit here already, you know, an extra two hours? I'll just take a nap, you know?

Kelli (02:46.839)
Right, right.

Kelli (02:54.168)
You know what's funny on Miami? Did you watch Miami yet?

Wendy (02:58.325)
no, I did not.

Kelli (03:01.026)
They flash back when they're showing how Lisa's always late for things. They flash back and it's a reunion and she comes walking out and thinks she's gonna get like some big hello and Andy's like, you're not getting a big greeting, just sit down, we're late. Like he seemed pissed.

Wendy (03:04.703)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (03:18.819)
it, you know, it's interesting. Yeah. So I didn't watch the Miami one, but I did hear one of the podcasts talking about it. And they were saying about how they were really late for this something, but Lisa supposedly let them know in advance that she was going to be two hours late, but they sat there and held the bus or whatever it was for her, which I

Kelli (03:19.79)
But that was just her, not all of them.

Kelli (03:44.27)
So Gina said it when Gina and I did this. Maybe it was ours, yeah. Gina said that she read right before we got on to record that Lisa put something out there saying the producers were well aware I was gonna be late. I told them I will get my own transportation to the event. And they said, no, just come when you can.

Wendy (03:48.037)
maybe it was maybe it was your hour podcast.

Kelli (04:10.744)
but they must not have told the ladies or they did tell the ladies and they just still reacted the way they react.

Wendy (04:17.205)
or they didn't tell Stephanie, right? Because Stephanie supposedly is the one that was really upset about it.

Kelli (04:22.412)
Right, I mean, everybody at Marisol was like, now you know what we've been dealing with for 11 years. Like, they didn't seem upset, you know, whatever. It's production. That show is so overproduced, Miami, it's ridiculous.

Wendy (04:27.337)
Right.

Right. It is what it is. Yes, exactly.

Wendy (04:36.427)
Yeah, it is ridiculous. So Andy's sitting there, then Lise, finally start coming out. Portia is fresh off a new procedure and we meet Coco and Chanel. They're back in their position. And they were big. mean, they're big.

Kelli (04:56.908)
and perky and perfect.

Wendy (04:59.603)
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

Kelli (05:01.964)
I mean, what she was wearing looked extremely uncomfortable with that thing up the middle, like holding them.

Wendy (05:07.912)
It did look uncomfortable.

Kelli (05:09.432)
But you know, though, especially when you first get them done, they stand up on their own. So it's not like you're wearing that for support. It wouldn't be like me wearing that dress where the thing probably would have bent in half when I put it on.

Wendy (05:18.035)
Right. gosh, no. Right, no, right. Yeah, they do stand up on their own. And I think they do that for a long time afterwards. Yeah. I didn't understand the hello Shemeah from plus one. now I get it. From the plus one to the one. Okay, that makes sense. Kelly brought her crystal.

Kelli (05:27.916)
I'm sure they do.

Kelli (05:37.518)
because she was a friend of.

Wendy (05:46.779)
And then Andy announces that Brit is not, you she's chosen not to join them. Kelly's reaction was that, you know, she feels like she's caused mass destruction and you know, she should have been here to speak on it. And we find out that Porsche spoke to her the night before and she didn't give any indication that she wasn't coming. As a matter of fact, she was talking about how Mike was coming because

Kelli (06:03.02)
Nah, she's gonna file a lawsuit instead.

Wendy (06:15.743)
the husbands were gonna be there. So I thought that was interesting. Shemeya said she was looking forward to holding her accountable. And then Drew said that she texted me a few weeks ago and said she was filing a lawsuit. And I guess that lawsuit is in reference to the pictures that Kenya posted, because I think that's what's gonna come out is supposedly the pictures came from Drew.

Kelli (06:16.248)
Yeah. Right.

Kelli (06:45.11)
Yeah. And I remember hearing that a while ago, don't you?

Wendy (06:45.567)
But these are lot of supposites.

I remember hearing that the pictures came from a current housewife when they came out. I remember hearing that. That's where they came from.

Kelli (06:56.962)
Yeah, I feel like Drew was implicated at some point in this. But who knows.

Wendy (07:04.179)
Yeah. Andy was talking to Phaedra about her outfit and her big headpiece and she said that she was inspired by the Jab-Jab. That's how that headpiece came about.

Kelli (07:16.928)
I did not like one of those dresses.

Wendy (07:19.539)
I didn't either, I really didn't. And honestly, I didn't even like the color scheme they picked, like that gold and yellow. I didn't like it. I didn't like it. They didn't ask us, so we get what we get. Andy asked if anyone would like to any intentions for the day, and Portia said that she would like to set an intention, that they honor who we are and we are in whatever space.

Kelli (07:28.386)
I know. Yeah.

I did it.

They didn't.

Wendy (07:47.999)
whatever space we're in, and she talks about that she feels like she has healed a lot herself and that she feels like she's in a totally different mindset. She feels like she's back to being herself again. And she wants to figure out if she's gonna be able to move forward with people or if she's just gonna close the door. Listen, I think she was very specific with her intentions and I really, honestly, the way she spoke about them, I think that she...

Those were really her intentions. That's what I felt. Like this was not made up bullshit. Like she went there with these intentions. Either I'm move forward with this person or I'm gonna close the door.

Kelli (08:18.092)
Yeah. Right.

Wendy (08:27.723)
And then they go on a break and as soon as they come back, Cynthia is there, which was good because we needed Cynthia there. She said she loved being there to support everyone and pretty much, you know, she really was kind of the glue. She does know all of those women. She's been on that show and in Atlanta for a long time. She's been through a wedding, a divorce, like she's been through all of these things on this show, a fractured friendship, like she's been through all this.

Kelli (08:35.533)
Yeah.

Kelli (08:47.704)
Yeah.

Kelli (08:56.557)
Yeah.

Wendy (08:57.992)
They couldn't have picked a better friend up for this season if they tried.

Kelli (09:01.46)
No, mean just her disposition in itself. Like just who Cynthia is. It was a good choice.

Wendy (09:05.256)
Yes.

Wendy (09:08.809)
Yes, Andy asked, again, this Andy with his damn shady question, how she felt about frickin' Frack revealing her hood situation. Like he couldn't just let that go, right? Couldn't just let that go. And he asked her how her boyfriend's doing and she gave us his name, Le Prince, which we kinda knew. And they showed a picture of him, which again, we knew, but.

Kelli (09:21.676)
No, he's not gonna let that go.

Kelli (09:31.363)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (09:37.227)
That's big for her because, right, now it's official, right?

Kelli (09:38.22)
Now it's really out there.

Wendy (09:43.275)
Then Andy asked Portia about how she was dealing with the loss of her cousin, Londy.

Kelli (09:52.11)
was terrible.

Wendy (09:53.053)
It was terrible. She actually, she couldn't even talk about it. You know, she, she got very emotional. So, he kind of like switched gears, which was the right thing to do. You know, he said it was really great to finally see you were able to record in your home. And she gave us some clarification on that, that, you know, he had bought that house prior to the marriage, but in their prenup, was defined as marital property. So that

Kelli (09:56.045)
Yeah.

Wendy (10:22.133)
gives her claim to it, which good for her.

Kelli (10:25.454)
Listen, if this guy doesn't have any money, she's probably got the hat, like she was probably able to purchase the house or get the house financially because she's better off than him.

Wendy (10:38.459)
Right. mean, I would imagine there's some kind of mortgage on it and maybe she just assumed it. Right? Right. They talk about him being detained by ICE. And it was rumored that, you know, she called ICE on him and, you know, like she said, and even Phaedra confirmed, like that would have not helped her for him to be detained. Andy asked, you know, if Gerald and, you know, Simon were buddies, Shemeah's husband and

Kelli (10:43.384)
Took it over. Yeah.

Wendy (11:07.647)
You know, she said, yeah, like, you know, they would hang out together, but they had some concerns about Simon and Shemeah and Gerald expressed them to her. Like, you know, make sure you do your homework, make sure that, you know, he's not broke.

Kelli (11:16.59)
Yeah.

Kelli (11:24.258)
Was Shemeah friends with Fallon? I can't remember, I remember a scene where Portia was at Fallon and Simon's home. And I can't remember if Shemeah was there. Like Fallon was somebody's friend and I don't think it was Portia's.

Wendy (11:33.255)
No, I do too.

Wendy (11:39.723)
She was a friend of, I don't remember. No, I don't think she did, but she was seen more than once though. Like she didn't have an official friend of role, but she was seen. It's just like, what's her name? Shemeah didn't have an official friend of role either.

Kelli (11:43.798)
she actually had a role on the show as a friend of? Yeah, she was a friend of somebody's.

Kelli (11:54.262)
I feel like it was that one girl. What was her name?

Kelli (12:01.344)
No, she didn't. She's just been on for so long. I forget the girl. I liked her. She had the curly hair, something with the T. She had a boyfriend or a man. She had her man and Tamara or I don't know. Maybe it was her friend. I got to look into it.

Wendy (12:03.525)
She's been right.

Wendy (12:19.785)
Yeah. And you know, Portia says that it took them almost nine months to do the prenup. So she paid for the due diligence. Like it paid for her to do that. Nine months is a long time to get a prenup, especially when you consider that they met and were engaged and were married like within, what was it, 18 months? And nine months of it.

Kelli (12:41.92)
Yeah, and they were only married for 11.

Wendy (12:44.891)
and nine months of it, you're working on the pre-nup? I mean...

Kelli (12:48.59)
All right, that should have been a red flag right there.

Wendy (12:53.301)
But she did say she loved him. I don't know. I don't know. A viewer asked Kelly about her question to Portia. Why did you want to know if, you know, did you take that woman's husband? Was that because you were concerned or you just wanted to be messy? And she says that she was concerned, but Portia's like, no, you you said that to be messy.

Portia said that Kelly and her had a conversation like off camera and they both agreed that they were going through similar things. And that's when Kelly kind of got a little defensive. Kelly said, well, I was married for 11 years and you were married for 11 months. And it was a big difference. But she said, yeah, but we both loved our men. We were both in love with them. And we both agreed that the reason we were divorcing was really for financial and prenup reasons.

Kelli (13:32.398)
It's a big difference.

Wendy (13:46.535)
And both of their husbands were putting their divorce documents online. So that's kind of what they had in common. I mean, I think that Kelly's situation is completely different. She has four children. Three by him. Three by him. know, mean, Portia had one child not even by Simon Wright.

Kelli (14:00.376)
For sure.

Right.

not by Simon. And although I'm sure he grew close with Pilar, Dennis is in her life. Dennis is her father. Like she doesn't need to stand in. She's got her dad.

Wendy (14:14.825)
Right. Right. Right.

Wendy (14:21.141)
So then a viewer asked, Portia, you know, people already think you stole a cast member's husband, so why would you joke about wanting to F Angela's husband? And she said, first of all, let me apologize again. You she apologized again for saying that. Angela said that she introduced you to Simon. So Angela was maintaining that Shemeah introduced you to Simon.

And then Drew chimed in and said, I thought that she said that. But then when they show you the clip, what she said was, I was there when she met Simon. I don't need to give you the timeline, because they were trying to find out the timeline of when she was introduced. She's like, you know, she was my best friend and I was there. I didn't introduce her Simon, but I was there. you know.

I don't need to go into the timeline.

Kelli (15:22.274)
Why do you think Portia hesitated though when Andy asked her, did Shemeah introduce you to Simon? She hesitated.

Wendy (15:28.529)
She did hesitate and I don't...

I think she was, this is what I think from just watching her in this reunion. I think she wanted to be very intentional with her words. I think that she really did go into this reunion wanting to, you know, make apologies, know, mend fences where she could. And I think she just wanted to stop and think before she said anything. You know, I think that that's what she wanted to do.

Kelli (15:57.922)
think she got caught in a couple of lies.

Wendy (16:01.963)
portion.

I mean, it could be, but don't, Shemeah didn't lie in this situation. Shemeah did not say that she introduced her. She did not say.

Kelli (16:13.226)
No, I totally agree with that. Shemeah did not say I introduced him. She said I was there the night. But Andy made a good point. He's like, did you come up with that story? So it doesn't look like you creeped on someone else's husband. I mean, and that really could be what it is, which would mean that Portia and Shemeah had a conversation at one point.

Wendy (16:18.013)
I was there.

Kelli (16:40.982)
And Portia said, yeah, you got to say you were there the night I met him. And Shemeah did.

Wendy (16:44.521)
But, but Porsche, but Porsche did say, listen, I got introduced to him and let me carry my heat. So again, she is owning it. And I think that's, you know, why.

Kelli (16:57.998)
And who knows what, you know, it just is what it is. Who gives a shit? Yeah, he was married to somebody. Whatever happened, happened. Like, why do we even need to rehash it? So I understand why Porsche is like, let's just move on. It's...

Wendy (17:11.051)
Because they

Right. And she says, it's my heat. Like, let me own it. You know, like, this is me, you know? Right.

Kelli (17:18.542)
Yeah, and it's not important to anything that happened this season. Shemeah said I was there the night she met him. Whether that's true or not, really, who cares?

Wendy (17:24.221)
Absolutely not important. No, it's not.

Wendy (17:29.715)
Right, who cares? And then a viewer said, we love seeing Dennis and her and Pilar online, know, any chance of a sibling for Pilar. And she said, you know, we're just, you know, kicking all the time in my house. And then Kelly said, whose house? And Portia said, it's my house. Again, Kelly's.

Kelli (17:48.812)
No, Kelly said up in that man's house. And Portia said whose house? That's my house. And Kelly said, well, it's y'all's house.

Wendy (17:52.523)
Okay, and she said, it's my house.

Right, Portia said, did you have your house? Kelly said, yeah, I moved out of my house. And Portia said, well, I didn't have two houses. And she didn't have two houses, right? But what happened to Dennis's money? Dennis had a house.

Kelli (18:15.022)
Yeah, mean, bottom line is, Porsche's doing just fine.

Wendy (18:18.923)
She's fine. Yep. Yep. Yep.

Kelli (18:21.624)
There's not a doubt in my mind, Portia is doing just fine between the hot dog king and now taking Simon's house.

Wendy (18:27.531)
Mm-hmm.

That's right, right. Then Andy said to Drew, you had made a comment about Portia coming back that you thought that that was a flop. Do you stand by that? And she said, yeah, I stand by that. know, Portia's only storyline was me and Dennis. And she has so much to offer. Portia does have a lot to offer. Portia, you know, she's been around a long time. She's got a lot going on in her life. And I kind of agree with her.

Kelli (18:32.302)
She's fine.

Kelli (18:57.794)
I think that what was really going on in Portia's life had to do with her divorce and she couldn't talk about it. So that's why she did the whole Dennis Drew thing.

Wendy (19:04.939)
She couldn't talk about it. Right.

Wendy (19:11.029)
That is why she, I agree with you, but I do agree with Drew in the fact that before Simon, she had a lot going on in her life. has a big presence in Atlanta also. She's been around a long time. She knows a lot of people. She could have been pushing her business. She could have been, there's other things she could have been doing.

Kelli (19:35.33)
Yeah, but she's probably not really running her businesses. Other people are doing it for her. So she's gonna be like the new Real Housewives of Miami Stephanie walking into a boardroom where people look like they have never even met her before in their life. You know what I mean? And listen, and I don't mean that as a dig, like God bless you, Portia. I hope you're going to the bank with all these businesses and don't even have to show up for a meeting. But.

Wendy (19:48.852)
Right.

Right. Right. yes, and she's pretending.

Kelli (20:03.318)
That's what saying. I think what she was really, what was really going on in her life, she was consumed by that divorce, which, you know, why wouldn't you be? And she couldn't talk about it.

Wendy (20:13.438)
Right.

Right.

Kelli (20:17.89)
But you're right, before Simon, she had a lot going on, so she should just get back together with Dennis. They are adorable together.

Wendy (20:25.035)
They are, but I think he's a player and I think she knows that. And then Andy asked if she thought that Dennis and Drew were sleeping and she said no, that she didn't think that. Drew said, this is a business and this is my business and I conduct myself and it was insulting to her. I know that you have to pay for studio time. I know how this business works. This is what I do.

Kelli (20:29.506)
He's definitely a player, yeah.

Wendy (20:55.262)
and Porsche's

Kelli (20:55.564)
It was a little weird that they showed up to that party together dressed alike though. It was very Justin Timberlake Britney Spears. So the optics weren't great.

Wendy (21:02.121)
I don't know that they were really just-

Wendy (21:06.589)
I mean, were they just alike though? They both happen to be wearing the same color.

Kelli (21:11.694)
No, still, one of them should have went home and changed, I'm sorry.

Wendy (21:16.399)
I don't know. Portia said that she didn't want to brought up about Dennis and Drew. And I do think that that's true because there was something that was said. And then all of a sudden, Kelly came at her at Shemeah's party. And at that point, was too late. It was already brought up. That was like the first episode with Shemeah's birthday party.

Kelli (21:42.791)
yeah.

Wendy (21:43.625)
So I don't think that that was her intention, but then once it was out there, she's like, well, now I gotta do something with it, right? But she did give props to Drew on her album, and she said she was a good artist, which again, I give her a lot of credit for.

Kelli (21:50.402)
Yeah.

Kelli (21:55.725)
Yeah, she did.

Kelli (22:03.448)
Yeah, I mean, I think she was humbled.

Wendy (22:08.425)
What do mean?

Kelli (22:12.194)
I feel like when housewives get heat on social media, they tend to kind of move differently. So Portia could have been moving differently at this reunion because of some heat she got on social media. Either way, I'm happy she got up and gave Drew a hug and seemed to squash it because like whether the alliance thing is true or not, and I tend to believe Shemeah,

that yes, Portia was in on it. That was another lie. think Portia got caught in. Alliances don't make for a good show. We as viewers do not like seeing team this one versus team that one. Obviously it's why Jersey's not on right now. So as viewers, we don't see it. And quite honestly, I think that's exactly where OC is right now. And I'm not enjoying it. It's only one episode, but I'm not enjoying it for that reason.

Wendy (22:52.862)
No.

Right, no, we don't like that.

Wendy (23:06.293)
Yeah.

Wendy (23:09.972)
Yeah.

Kelli (23:11.534)
It doesn't work. So either way, again, I'm glad Portia did what she did. I do think it was very big of her. We never see how his wives do this for the most part.

Wendy (23:23.453)
Yeah, just you and I kind of talked about it yesterday before we even recorded this. So what what Portia did is, know, she she gave props to Drew and then Andy asked her, know, Drew, Portia said, Listen, I would have never gone after your business like you did on Breakfast Club talking about the hair company and.

Kelli (23:27.768)
Yeah.

Kelli (23:42.478)
I didn't even know that that had happened. don't listen to Breakfast Club, but you think we would have seen something on social media about it.

Wendy (23:44.222)
I

Wendy (23:49.195)
I'm sure it was out there. I'm sure it was out there. Because Breakfast Club is pretty big in Atlanta. She said after you saw the season, Andy said, Portia, after you saw the season, that the Dennis and Drew's relationship was all business. Do you think you owe her an apology? And that's when you could see her get emotional. When I first saw her, thought, she's going to get up and walk out. I really thought she was going to walk out.

Kelli (23:54.048)
yeah, yeah.

Kelli (24:17.272)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (24:18.803)
was very surprised to see her walk over and ask Drew to stand up and hug her and apologize. And when she did that, I was like, this is real. It's real.

Kelli (24:29.33)
I think we were not the only ones who were surprised. Did you hear Phaedra? She was like, Lord Jesus or something like that. She does have some good.

Wendy (24:34.283)
This is what I love about Phaedra is her little comments. There's little comments that you get from her on the side because she just says it. She says what we're all thinking and it just comes out and it's like, okay.

Kelli (24:47.444)
Exactly. Yeah, it was good, whatever she said. So we weren't the only ones who were surprised.

Wendy (24:53.323)
Angela says, Angela says 17 episodes later. Yep, yep. And I also thought it was funny when Portia says, are we not in our light? And then she looked around and she's like, no, no, no, actually, mean, they tried to get in the right light, but she, know, we knew what she meant. And she apologized for meeting up with Ralph and...

Kelli (24:58.26)
Exactly. That was great too. That was great. It only took 17 episodes.

Kelli (25:14.262)
Yeah. Yeah.

That was good.

Wendy (25:23.849)
You know, they talk about they're both going through divorces and, you know, Porsche said she's healing, she's still healing, but it doesn't matter. It wasn't right what she did. It wasn't right how she, you know, came after Drew. And that's the last note I have. Is that it? Is that where it ends?

Kelli (25:44.642)
Yeah, it was very, I mean, it was good. I enjoyed it. was...

Wendy (25:49.149)
No, I did too! I did too!

Kelli (25:52.206)
I'll make you laugh though, when Kelly said Britt played the villain and the victim, I'm listening to Tamra and Dolores and Tamra's like, yeah, there's always one on a show that plays villain and the victim. They're the worst. I'm thinking, that's you asshole on OC, right? That's completely who Tamra is.

Wendy (25:58.922)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (26:11.785)
Yeah. Yes. Yes.

Yes.

Kelli (26:18.124)
Yeah, that blew me away. Kelly also did say that Brit did pay the glam when she used them. So I thought that was interesting.

Wendy (26:26.409)
Yes, she did. Right.

Wendy (26:31.787)
Also, don't know if... She also said, why don't I have this written down?

Kelli (26:41.178)
well wait, Angela, we ended with Angela approaching Phaedra about Angela pulled out some receipts with some pictures.

Wendy (26:52.115)
Yeah, wait a

Kelli (26:53.334)
And she linked, she basically showed a picture of...

Wendy (27:00.159)
Her, Marcus's aunt. Yes, yes, yes.

Kelli (27:00.492)
Marcus's aunt who graduated with Phaedra's brother or something?

I mean, listen.

Wendy (27:09.547)
Why didn't I write anything down about this? Well, that did happen.

Kelli (27:13.708)
I mean, Phaedra denies it. Of course she's gonna deny it. I still really think it was Phaedra.

Wendy (27:20.191)
I don't think it was. actually, that's the other thing. the whole, I don't think, first of all, Marcus has come out and said, Marcus has come out and said, not that he's, listen, there's no credibility there. There's no credibility there.

Kelli (27:35.884)
I know, but come on, do we even, I know, that's what I'm saying. It's probably whoever's gonna pay him the most, he's got zero credibility. mean, at this point, I don't even give a shit who did it, who said what, who paid who. I never wanna see Marcus again.

Wendy (27:57.245)
Yeah, no, we don't need to see Marcus again.

Kelli (27:59.692)
Marcus is the Kim D of Atlanta. I never want to hear from him again.

Wendy (28:05.723)
I, yep, I agree with that. Angela, listen, we both agree that we really like Angela and I think that she's a great housewife, but when they were talking about that whole thing about the Alliance and how it was Portia and Shamiah and Britt and Kelly, I thought to myself, and Andy even said,

when Portia's like, no, and Shemeah's like, let me finish. And you know, she finished and Andy's like, to Shemeah. So Portia knew she was a part of the Alliance. And Shemeah's like, yes, she did. Yes, she did. So, but then Portia's the one who said, you know, we know how alliances work out. We've already seen how it happens here. Well then.

Kelli (28:56.056)
think Portia was lying in that moment. I think all of these women, not all of them, I think Portia is capable of lying. I think Phaedra is capable of lying. I think Drew is capable of lying. I'm probably gonna say I think they're all capable of lying except Angela. I don't think Angela's a liar. I don't think Angela has anything to lie about. She filmed a scene with her therapist talking about Charles being unfaithful. I mean, what else is the woman gonna do?

Why would it why would she lie about who brought it up? And I I firmly believe that Phaedra did all of that behind the scenes before she came back on the show She knew Angela Oakley was gonna be on the show. So she did what she had to do but either way At this point, I hope we bury it after I mean, of course, they're gonna bring it up at the next part of the reunion but I hope we just get past it because

Wendy (29:51.797)
Right.

Kelli (29:55.886)
All we're doing is giving this guy Marcus more air time. And that needs to get cut off. Like I wish, I honestly wish Charles would have just kicked his ass out of that. Like Angela should have just let Charles kick his ass out of that party. Cause Marcus is a nobody.

Wendy (30:01.503)
Yeah.

Wendy (30:16.359)
Yeah, no, is. really didn't, yeah. He didn't need to be, like, he didn't need to be a part of this whole season at all. Not at all. And I think that...

I, I still don't think it's Phaedra. I don't think it's Phaedra.

Kelli (30:35.662)
You know, it's interesting that, well, guess she just wants to know who, like, why? Like, why would you even, why? Why would you send this guy in? Because she's already admit to the fact that her husband cheated on her. So it's not like she is just learning this. I guess she just wanted to know who was doing it to her and let everybody else know who was doing it to her. Like, basically, I guess that was that confessional scene with her and Charles. He's like, I don't give a shit.

What do we care? And she's like, no, I care. Which I guess I would care, but to me it's just giving it more life. And why do you even want to do that?

Wendy (31:09.29)
Right.

Kelli (31:17.1)
You good? Your marriage is good? You good? Great. We're good.

Wendy (31:21.659)
So this is one of those things that I'm like, how do you move forward from this? how do you move forward from this? And even Angela's like, why didn't anyone try to get me? Angela was new. Why didn't anyone approach her?

Kelli (31:26.253)
Yeah.

Kelli (31:38.062)
Well, somebody said who you had drew. Somebody, don't know if it was Kelly or Shemeah, but basically like, well, you, right.

Wendy (31:44.683)
because they knew each other from Chicago.

Kelli (31:52.214)
Yeah, mean, like we said, alliances, we don't wanna say it, so.

Wendy (31:56.293)
No, we don't want to see it. Just come and show us your natural self. And if you get mad at your best friend, you get mad at your best friend, which obviously we see happen between Portia and Shemia.

Kelli (32:00.428)
Right.

Kelli (32:06.88)
And if you're mad at your friend, I will give Portia this though. Unlike other franchises, she had beef with Shemeah. She did not get anybody else involved. She wasn't trying to get Phaedra on her side. She wasn't trying to get Cynthia on her side. She just let it be between her and Shemeah. I'll give her credit for that because other franchises, Tamra, Teresa, if they don't like somebody, they try to recruit people against them. Lisa Barlow.

Wendy (32:23.473)
No, no, she wasn't. Yeah.

Wendy (32:34.985)
Yeah, even so much as when things were brought up to Porsche that Shemeah did or didn't do, Porsche wouldn't even address it. She'd say, I will take care of this on the side. This is not something we're gonna put out there. And again, like that's a class act. I'm sorry, but that is the way to handle it. If it's your best friend, if it's your...

Kelli (32:44.728)
That's right.

Kelli (32:50.669)
Right.

Kelli (32:56.33)
I agree. If it's your best friend. If it weren't her best friend, she might have acted a little differently, but whatever. I give her credit for it because I hate that on other franchises where, because that's how it turns into team this versus team that.

Wendy (33:02.484)
Right.

Wendy (33:06.133)
Yeah.

Wendy (33:14.355)
Right. There wasn't any, nobody was on Watch What Happens Live after this one, right? I mean...

Kelli (33:20.62)
Really? After the reunion?

Wendy (33:24.169)
Maybe I just didn't watch it.

Kelli (33:26.24)
I didn't watch it. must, I watched this on Peacock.

Wendy (33:28.829)
Sunday. no, you know, it wasn't you know what was on it was Sarah Jessica Sarah Jessica Parker and somebody else it was Sarah Jessica Parker. It wasn't anyone from Atlanta. Yeah, I you know, she's the whole thing with the and just like that, you know that. Have you heard all this stuff with how bad this whole season is and how bad it was written and

Kelli (33:39.278)
That's weird.

Kelli (33:52.51)
Yeah, I mean the one chick's father died in the first season and died again in the third season.

Wendy (33:55.497)
Yes. I mean, talk about shoddy.

Kelli (34:01.578)
I watched the first season of that and I, I mean, I think I watched a couple of episodes of the second season because I did see Aiden a little bit, but I couldn't do it. I mean, I can't believe I got through the first season. Did you watch the first season?

Wendy (34:16.754)
I watched the first season and I think I did watch the second season and I was looking forward to the third season, but I don't even feel like watching it now that everything I've heard about it. just doesn't make any sense. Like, what is the point?

Kelli (34:28.47)
I just felt like the first season was, I mean, I don't know who she has writing this, but you can't possibly.

Wendy (34:37.285)
It's Candace Bushnell. I mean, it's the same writer as Sex and the City. I think it is.

Kelli (34:42.081)
It is?

You cannot address every possible social situation, every possible social happening that's going on right now in one season. Like, I don't know, pick two out of 10. You can't tackle all 10 in one season, and that's what they tried to do, and it was fucking ridiculous.

Wendy (35:10.899)
Yeah, let's see. And just like that.

Kelli (35:14.828)
Was it the first season or the second season they tried to make it like Miranda was an alcoholic?

Wendy (35:20.063)
That was the first season, I think. That was the first season.

Kelli (35:21.89)
Yeah, and she, so she's an alcoholic and she realizes she's bisexual. All in the same season. I mean, I feel like we could have strung that out a little bit.

Wendy (35:28.597)
Right.

Wendy (35:34.699)
Okay, so no, and just like that is primarily written by Michael Patrick King, who also serves as executive producer and director. team of writers contributes to the series, including Eliza Zertsky and Julia Rottenberg. So.

Kelli (35:44.334)
Oh, so he was on the first. He was on Sex and the City.

Wendy (35:59.431)
And I mean, I don't know if you heard, but Heather MacDonald was talking about it. And it's so true. Like these actresses, they had to know. You know, that actress whose father died twice, she had to know that her father died already. And it's like, what do you do? Like you just go and you act it out. Like you don't say anything. Like.

Kelli (36:19.64)
Didn't anybody say to the writers, pardon me, but this already happened. No wonder, I mean, I've heard Kim Cattrall basically say, she basically said Sarah Jessica Parker wasn't nice to her.

Wendy (36:36.117)
Yeah.

Kelli (36:37.442)
but she must've read this script and was like, hell to the no.

Wendy (36:42.783)
Yeah, I mean, yeah.

Kelli (36:43.925)
It's horrible.

Wendy (36:48.139)
Yeah, I don't know that I can watch it. Not after all those horrible reviews as to what went on and how poorly it was written and executed. And it's sad because I love New York City. I love Sex and the City. I would have liked to seen the next chapter, but that's not what they're giving us. They're giving us garbage. And I, as a viewer, am insulted, to be quite honest with you. I'm insulted.

Kelli (36:59.117)
Yeah.

Kelli (37:14.414)
Totally agree. Totally, totally agree.

Wendy (37:18.591)
I'm insulted, so I'm not watching it.

Kelli (37:22.124)
No, not worth it. I mean, these writers get paid a lot of money. A lot of money.

Wendy (37:24.937)
Yeah. Yeah. Yes, they sure do. They sure do.

Kelli (37:31.574)
Especially on a show like that. Like maybe not all right, but I'm just saying like I'm sure they have a very big budget on this.

Wendy (37:40.029)
I that Sarah Jessica Parker didn't catch it. Like how do you, I mean, how do you let

Kelli (37:45.038)
I'd love to know if that was addressed on Watch What Happens Live, but they're big buddies, so he probably did not ask her. No. No, he wouldn't.

Wendy (37:50.264)
He would never, he would never, he would never, he would never, they are BFFs, he would never, he would never.

which is unfortunate. I mean, I guess, you know, if it was my BFF, I wouldn't want him to either, right?

Kelli (38:05.134)
I know, but you're Andy Cohen. Like you have a responsibility as a talk show host.

Wendy (38:11.659)
Or then just don't have her on. Or then just don't have her on. You know? If you're not gonna...

Kelli (38:11.766)
You do it to anybody else.

Right. I said it to Gina, said, cause she asked me if I watched Watch What Happens I said, no, I'm losing it for Andy because of that. You know what's funny? I was thinking about this today and listeners at home, please listen. We really do our research. Like we really do watch these shows. We have our laptops or our devices for typing notes. We watch the after shows. We watch Watch What Happens Live. When Tamara said that today about not realizing Portia was sleeping, I'm thinking, how did you miss that?

Number one. Then, and I brought this up to Gina when we covered the Valley. Bros and shows were talking about the scene where Jasmine and Brittany were so upset at the engagement, Loo-ow, and we're talking about, you know, being pissed off that Ne and Danny weren't there, and the guys on Bros and shows didn't understand why. Well, I watched the after show, and they explained, and I'm not defending them.

Wendy (38:45.707)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (39:13.932)
still think they were ridiculous. Not only that, and Danny went back to shower and Zach asked everybody else to come down and help set up. They were setting up, they were blowing up balloons. So Jasmine and Brittany were like, why are we blowing up balloons and Nia and Danny aren't blowing up balloons? So that's why they were pissed because they were responsible for helping out. But I'm like, they don't watch the after show. We do.

Wendy (39:13.963)
Yeah, but Nia and Danny were out on the boat fishing.

Wendy (39:41.523)
Right, Yeah, yeah, but I mean, we do, we do, and we do watch the show and we do take notes and we do listen to other podcasts about the show, even though we do our own podcasts and, you know, we learn other things and we try and, you know, we try and spread our knowledge around.

Kelli (39:42.498)
Well, I just started, you and Lori always did. But we really do our research.

Kelli (39:54.807)
Yeah!

Kelli (40:02.478)
And I'm not trying to talk negatively about Bros and Shows, because I really do enjoy their podcast, but it's just funny to me because we've watched all these shows from the beginning. Like you said last night, we've watched OC Season 1. We've been doing this for 19 years. Well, not this, but watched it for 19 years. And...

Wendy (40:15.562)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (40:19.091)
Right. But we've been watching it like it was our job from the very beginning. It just all of a sudden became our job, right? I mean, we're still not getting paid for it, but we're still watching it like it's our job.

Kelli (40:24.326)
Absolutely, absolutely. But I'm listening, no we are not. No we are not. I find myself when I'm listening to pros and shows, they'll say something and I'll remember something from season one of whatever show they're covering that they don't know because they didn't watch it. And I'm like, no, that's not it. It's blah, blah, blah. And I'm like talking to myself in the car thinking of, know, about what,

Wendy (40:51.444)
Right, right.

Kelli (40:54.07)
really happened in season one that they don't know about because they haven't been watching it from the beginning. Yeah. No shade to them. I'm just it just cracks me up because we really went. I'm not even going to say it because I want I'm not even going to say it.

Wendy (40:57.973)
from the beginning. Yeah. No, I agree. No, listen, we... Yeah, I...

Wendy (41:10.025)
You can't do that!

Kelli (41:14.542)
I think we should like create a housewives trivia game because I think you and I could like completely do that

Wendy (41:21.321)
Yeah, let's do it. Why didn't you want to say that? You think someone's gonna steal the idea? you mean like a trivia, like a product, an actual product.

Kelli (41:23.726)
because I don't want somebody stealing our idea.

I don't know who listens.

Wendy (41:38.725)
Well, I wonder if we'd have to get it licensed through Bravo.

Kelli (41:43.914)
probably.

Wendy (41:44.971)
We certainly could come up with the questions. mean...

Kelli (41:52.974)
Absolutely, every franchise, every season, we could do it.

Wendy (41:57.331)
Yes. Yeah, we definitely could. I mean, listen, like I said, we've been doing this like it's our job for 19 years.

Kelli (42:05.294)
19 years. I'll never forget Eric. no, this was the show Las Vegas, because Tess was three when OC came out, but I think I was pregnant with Tess and no, Tess was just born, whatever, doesn't matter. Eric's like, I don't know if I should tell you this or not, but there's a new show that just came out, it's called Las Vegas, it's about a casino and Josh Duhamel's in it. I'm like, my God. I was like, hooked, but that was before DVRs and streaming, so I really.

Wendy (42:28.393)
Ha ha ha ha ha.

Kelli (42:34.658)
had to wait every week to watch it, but I love that show. I love it. I don't remember what holiday it is, but there's some holiday, it's a weekend, and I think it's E Channel does a Las Vegas marathon from beginning to end. And I watch it every year, whatever holiday it is.

Wendy (42:36.637)
Yes. You know, I used to watch that show too. I remember that show.

Wendy (42:49.997)
Okay.

Wendy (42:56.405)
That's good to know. Well, I will let our listeners know on this podcast, in case you didn't see my post, that for my birthday, Kelly and Lori got me the Let's Sprinkle by MG coffee cake that I had asked for for my birthday. I love sweets. I'm like a sweet tooth junkie. And I love to sprinkle cookies. And I tasted it last night. I opened it and I tasted it. And I put a video up. And it is very, very good.

And I also have to say, I didn't mention this in the other video, that cake weighs like five pounds. That cake is so heavy. It is so heavy. And when I opened up the plastic in the center of the, you know, where there's a hole in the center, there was all this, all these extra sprinkles in there. Matt like grabbed it and ate the whole thing of sprinkles. It was just like pure sugar. It was pure sugar. But listen, I'm going to have another piece tonight.

Kelli (43:31.0)
so heavy.

Kelli (43:45.715)
my god, that's so funny.

Wendy (43:52.811)
It is very, it's very good. It is very good cake. It's a good cake. hope, I hope that she can get this in local grocery stores so that people don't have to pay for the shipping. Cause I would have bought it a long time ago. I would have bought the cookies. would have bought, I mean, we did buy the cookies, but I would buy it regularly. I just don't like to pay that kind of money for shipping. And the cake is heavy. The cake is heavy.

Kelli (43:53.294)
Good.

Good. I believe it.

Kelli (44:13.623)
yeah. No, I agree. But like, what a cool thing to have like for holidays and stuff, you know, I mean, or whatever.


Kelli (44:56.344)
Something to think about.

Kelli (45:14.204)
that's right.

Wendy (46:13.555)
All right, until next time, thank you for watching and listening. We want whenever please subscribe, give us a five star review, tell your friends. Bye.

Kelli (46:23.032)
Bye.