Summer House Reunion Part 2: Apologies, Pauses & Paige's Peace

 Summer House Reunion Part 2: Apologies, Pauses & Paige's Peace 

🎙️ Podcast Summary: Summer House Reunion Part 2

The reunion continues with emotional confrontations, overdue apologies, and shocking updates. Lexi apologizes to Sierra again for dragging her into her breakup drama with Jesse, while Jesse admits fault but claims Lexi is projecting. The cast reassures Lexi that she was liked, despite her feeling isolated.

Lindsey earns praise for her calmness and clarity this season. She reveals that she and Monty are on a romantic “pause,” shocking everyone except Gabby. Lindsey maintains they’re focused on co-parenting and not seeing other people—yet.

Karl and Lindsey share an unexpectedly tender moment over the anniversary of his brother’s death. Lindsey also confronts Karl over a comment about where she conceived her baby, prompting a sincere apology from him.

Kyle and Amanda get candid about their rocky summer, their differing timelines on starting a family, and Kyle’s struggle to balance work and personal life. Amanda reveals she’s focused on her mental health and even considered freezing her eggs.

Things heat up when Craig’s wedding behavior and iced tea drama are revisited. Paige finally admits he was asked to leave Amanda and Kyle’s wedding, and opens up about how her relationship with Craig changed her. She refuses to say his name, claiming she had to lie to protect him while they were together.

The reunion ends with Andy lightening the mood—joking about Lindsey’s breastmilk and looking ahead to next summer in the Hamptons.

Takeaways

Wendy shares her experience with pop-on veneers and the challenges of dental aesthetics.
Kelli and Wendy empathize with Carl's insecurities about his teeth.
The reunion focuses heavily on the dynamics between Lexi and Jesse.
Sierra expresses her feelings about being dragged into media drama.
Kelli questions the authenticity of Lexi's claims about Jesse.
Lindsay's insights on relationship optics resonate with the hosts.
The hosts critique the seating arrangements at the reunion.
Kelli admires Gabby's supportive nature towards Lexi.
Wendy highlights the importance of personal growth in relationships.
The hosts express disappointment in the lack of shocking revelations during the reunion. Carl's transformation has positively impacted his friendships.
Kyle and Amanda's relationship is strained due to work-life balance issues.
Mental health awareness is crucial for parents, especially regarding postpartum depression.
Craig's controversies raise questions about his character and relationships.
Navigating breakups requires self-awareness and honesty.
The dynamics of the cast are constantly evolving, impacting their relationships.
Future family plans are complicated by current relationship challenges.
Kelli and Wendy emphasize the importance of being present in relationships.
The conversation reflects on the challenges of reality TV relationships.
The cast's future plans hint at potential drama and growth. 

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Transcript

Kelli (00:01.164)
Hi, welcome to WeeWineWhenever, I'm Kelly.

Wendy (00:04.148)
I'm Wendy.

Wendy (00:10.718)
What are you laughing at?

Kelli (00:11.022)
As an homage to Carl's teeth from last summer, Wendy's sporting her new veneers.

Wendy (00:16.212)
What do you think?

Wendy (00:27.381)
my gosh. Okay. So this is so funny.

Kelli (00:28.844)
hysterical.

Wendy (00:33.172)
I'm just going to bring it up now because let's do it. I have this like, I don't like my teeth. My teeth aren't white. And it drives me a little bit crazy. So on TikTok, I've been scrolling and I keep seeing all these like pop on veneers and you put them in boiling water and they're not crazy expensive. I can't afford real veneers. I am a working girl. So I order these pop on veneers. I'm so excited to get them. I take them out of the box. like, first of all, this is not even a real color.

Kelli (00:34.446)
Let's do it.

Kelli (00:53.39)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (01:03.954)
And second of all, they're like Halloween teeth. Like, are you kidding me?

And then we watch, they're so big. They're so big. I do have, yeah. Yeah, I'm like, my God, like this is ridiculous. listen, my heart broke for Carl when they talked about his big ass teeth and how upset he was about his teeth. And I can relate. I can relate to the bad teeth situation. listen, I'm gonna try and whiten them again. I don't know.

Kelli (01:10.382)
They're so big!

And you have a small mouth. Like, you know what I mean? Like you have a thin face.

Kelli (01:39.246)
I have yellow teeth too. But what's interesting for you, I mean, I drink red wine, I smoke, and I drink coffee. You don't do any of those things.

Wendy (01:46.921)
And I don't do any of those things. And I do brush my teeth all the time.

Kelli (01:51.756)
Yeah, me too. And I use whitening toothpaste. I have yellow teeth, you know, and I have very thin teeth. So to get them whitened would break down the enamel even more. And it's not, you know, I'm just gonna have yellow teeth.

Wendy (01:54.812)
I do too. I do too.

Wendy (02:05.556)
Yeah, me too. So, listen, we can feel your pain, Carl. And it is what it is. So we are talking about Summer House reunion part two. We pick up with Sierra talking to Lexi where we left off the last time about her dragging her in the press. know, Sierra says it was a low blow and Lexi apologized, you know, to Sierra.

Kelli (02:11.351)
Yeah.

Kelli (02:16.568)
Yeah.

Kelli (02:28.664)
She did apologize. And listen, I personally don't think Lexi dragged her in the media. I think anything Lexi said was totally directed at Jessie. But with that said, Ciara is clearly entitled to feel the way she ever, you know, however she feels. Yeah.

Wendy (02:39.582)
Yes.

Wendy (02:47.23)
I totally agree. And Sierra says to her, know, be careful about the pictures that you paint, like leave me out of it. And Lexi does admit that she's mad at Jesse and that she felt like Jesse was gaslighting her and manipulating her. And especially when she watched it back, like that's, and I'll be honest with you, I felt like he was doing the same thing. I felt like he was doing the same thing.

Kelli (03:16.75)
I mean, really, she's really, really coming at him hard. She's really saying all the things. Like, I'd really love to know what was said off camera. What I would also like to know is, and I am a fan of Lexi's. I'm not saying that she's lying or anything like that. I'd love to know how her other relationships were. Like,

Wendy (03:17.17)
Wendy (03:37.608)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (03:42.644)
Well, they weren't on camera. you know, you can't, yeah, you can't, and you can't compare it because the situation was she was a new, she was new into the house. It was her and Emeril. Emeril, really, she didn't bond with him. You know, she didn't really get a chance to know the other girls because she jumped in right away with Jesse. And Jesse was painting this picture that, you know, she was very controlling and very jealous.

Kelli (03:44.2)
I know, we'll never know. Posh isn't gonna tell us, let's face it.

Kelli (04:02.71)
Yeah.

Wendy (04:10.228)
I mean, Paige said, like, listen, I don't want you to think that we were ever like, we didn't like you. Like, that was never the case. Like, that's not how we felt. like, her and Amanda, like, they were both sad that this is how Lexi felt because that was not their intention. And I believe that. I believe that.

Kelli (04:19.66)
Right, right.

Kelli (04:29.954)
Yeah, like she said that he said the girls were trying to break them up or he was insinuating that. I mean, that's pretty wild. But you know, I think that, first of all, let me just say this. The majority of the reunion so far has been about Lexi and Jesse.

Wendy (04:35.411)
Right.

Yeah.

Kelli (04:53.314)
why they don't have first seat next to Andy. I understand Paige. I understand Paige having first seat because of the breakup and Craig had first seat at the Southern Charm reunion. Amanda and Kyle should have been the last two on the couches. They should not have first seat. But I could see Kyle being the type of guy to have like a temper tantrum if he's not, if he or Amanda are not first seat. But anyway, with that said, I think that Lindsay nailed it when she said,

basically it was all about the optics and how they were being perceived. And that's basically what ended their relationship. And I think she nailed it. How clear Lindsay thinks when it's not her relationship. I guess we're all like that though. You can always look at somebody's relationship and be like, well, blah, blah, blah, blah. But when it comes to your own, it's like, the fuck is going on?

Wendy (05:23.869)
Yes!

Wendy (05:45.276)
It's so funny, because when she was talking about it, she said it's obvious that you two both liked each other, and then that was real, that was sincere. As soon as she started talking, and you could see the look on everyone's face, Paige said, you nailed it, I saw that is PR Lindsay. That's PR Lindsay. That's who she is.

Kelli (05:54.882)
Yeah.

Kelli (06:08.62)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (06:12.756)
I loved that. I love that she, you know, she put on her PR hat because that's who she was. That's how we met her.

Kelli (06:21.12)
It is who she was and why she gave that up to be an influencer, I'll never understand. I guess the, yeah, yeah, that makes sense. I mean, do what you do. That's clearly seems like it's your passion and you're obviously very good at it. So, well, maybe she'll go back to it, who knows.

Wendy (06:25.95)
the money. The money. I mean...

Wendy (06:37.82)
Yeah, exactly. We'll have to see. Andy had asked if the two of you, meaning Jesse and Lexi, you know, possibly a friendship in the future. And Jesse said, yeah, you know, I try, but it's really not my decision. And Lexi said, no, I'm good. Which I'm glad she said that. I'm glad she said that.

Kelli (06:55.214)
I'm glad she said it too, but has she learned nothing from the Real Housewives of New Jersey? Like you have to play nice if you want to be invited back.

Wendy (07:01.32)
Yeah. I don't know that she cares. I don't know that she cares.

Kelli (07:05.132)
I don't think she cares either. She got enough exposure from that one season. She was already a working model, but now this kind of put her on the map. I didn't know who she was before she was on Summer House, but I'm not some big fashionista either following supermodels. But now I would imagine she's, I'm sure she was already getting booked.

Wendy (07:16.062)
Yeah.

Wendy (07:25.725)
Right.

Kelli (07:31.374)
But I'm sure she's getting booked more now. She was at the Sports Illustrated.

Wendy (07:32.167)
Right.

Wendy (07:36.897)
in Miami? Did she walk it?

Kelli (07:38.262)
Yeah, I don't know if she walked it, but she was in pictures with people, I think. God, she looked amazing. Yeah, they both looked amazing.

Wendy (07:43.048)
You know, Bethany walked it and so did Stassi. Bethany, I mean, Bethany for her age and I am in awe. She is toned. It's gotta be genetic with her too. She looked amazing. She really did. I mean, yeah, she really did.

Kelli (07:51.054)
She's like muscular.

Yeah, I'm sure it is, bitch. I'm only kidding. She did, she did. Love her or hate her, she looked amazing.

Wendy (08:06.654)
She absolutely did. And then Andy says, OK, we're going to say goodbye to Emeril.

Kelli (08:13.58)
Why? Why does Emeril have to leave? You couldn't just let him sit on the end of the couch for the rest of the reunion?

Wendy (08:16.156)
I was so aggravated.

Wendy (08:22.226)
That was so, I'm so disappointed with the way that that was handled. I really am.

Kelli (08:26.542)
Totally agree with you. Sidebar, did you see that they filmed the Atlanta reunion and Britt did not go?

Wendy (08:33.647)
No!

Kelli (08:35.106)
Kenya wasn't invited and Brit did not go.

Wendy (08:36.722)
I knew Kenya wasn't a-

Kelli (08:39.726)
just came out.

Wendy (08:41.631)
interesting. Okay.

Kelli (08:43.374)
sidebar so she won't be back either.

Wendy (08:45.97)
Yeah, which I mean, we kind of call that.

Kelli (08:48.44)
Exactly.

Wendy (08:50.748)
So as we're going on break, Lexi apologizes to Sierra and said, you know, she's genuinely sorry. She really didn't mean to bring her into it. And she'd love to, you know, move forward with her with a friendship when she's open to it. Sierra says, you know, she really appreciates that. And she's like, do you really think that I'm that stupid, like to go, like to date another guy in the house after what happened last summer with West? And I have to agree with her on that. And then we see Jessie in the back.

Kelli (09:16.174)
Yeah, I don't think

Wendy (09:20.524)
with Kyle and you know Kyle's like you know how you doing he's like well I think Lexi's just you know projecting on what she's feeling. okay.

Kelli (09:29.134)
She's projecting her feelings and she hates you. I will say this, I know that we don't get to see a lot of Gabby's life, but did you see her like checking on Lexi, holding her hand? Gabby is the ultimate girl's girl. She's the ultimate girl's girl. That's the friend you want.

Wendy (09:31.666)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (09:40.477)
Right.

Wendy (09:46.664)
The whole reunion.

Wendy (09:52.5)
I agree with that.

Kelli (09:55.766)
I mean, don't get me wrong, Paige was a great friend last reunion for Ciara too, like going at West, I thought that was great. But Gabi is a girl's girl. She doesn't know Lexi that well, she didn't know her before she came on the scene, and she had her back 100 % all through the season, and now. So I do hope Gabi comes back, but I do kinda hope she shares a little bit more with us if she does come.

Wendy (09:55.796)
I agree with that.

Wendy (10:13.116)
Yes.

Wendy (10:20.402)
Yeah, I mean, I'm indifferent on it to be quite honest with you. I agree with you. mean, you know, she's telling her as Lexi's crying that, you know, he's not worth shedding a tear over. And like you said, she was there hyping her up and she was holding her hand the entire time. But again, I'm kind of indifferent because I really didn't think that she, I don't think she brings that much, you know? Yeah.

Kelli (10:40.45)
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. If she comes back, I just hope that we see a little bit more about her life. I mean, we heard about her family when she first came on, her sister, her parents, but I don't know.

Wendy (10:49.564)
Yeah. Then Andy says that, they come back after the break, and Andy says, summer, Lindsay was cool as a cucumber, and I dare say soft. Andy brings up last reunion. I didn't realize this. I knew that she was pregnant last reunion, but I really didn't realize that she had come out with her midriff showing. And when they showed that, I was like, holy crap.

Kelli (11:13.706)
Because she was just pregnant, so she wasn't showing. Like, she had a... I mean, they were calling it her revenge body, right? Even though she's always had that body, but...

Wendy (11:19.476)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A viewer asked Jesse why he had that stink face reaction when Lindsay announced that she was pregnant. And I honestly, I don't remember that. But when they showed it, I was like, oh my gosh. I mean, it really was. he's like, Jesse said, I think Lindsay knows that I was happy for her. I was just surprised. Like, you know, I didn't.

Kelli (11:35.766)
I don't remember it either. yeah, that was a stank face. Yeah.

Wendy (11:48.114)
I didn't believe what I was hearing. Like she was here last year with Carl, now she's back this year and she's pregnant and she was like in the middle of that whole, you know, Ted talk.

Kelli (11:57.474)
I mean, that was, it was ridiculous. When they started doing the time lapse, it was like, my gosh, come on.

Wendy (12:03.228)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it made sense when he explained it, but...

Kelli (12:06.134)
Nobody cares about you that much.

Wendy (12:09.308)
listen, I'm here for Lindsay this season. I really am. And then Andy asked Carl what he thought when he heard about Lindsay's announcement and he said he was genuinely happy for her. And then that's when a viewer called out Gabby for the things that she said about Carl and his non-lover boy, Alc and his big ass teeth. And what does he bring to the party? And Carl, like, you know, first of all, Gabby said, you know, she was trying to, you know,

Kelli (12:11.924)
me too, me too.

Wendy (12:38.608)
make her feel better and also yeah, yeah. And Carl jumped in right away and said she texted me and apologized. you know, and I accepted it, but really what got me was what she said about my teeth. And that's when he goes on to explain all the problems with his teeth. And I honestly, I didn't realize again, I didn't realize it. But again, you're you're self-conscious about what you're self-conscious about, right?

Kelli (12:40.674)
She acknowledged what she was doing.

Kelli (12:59.372)
Nah, me neither.

Kelli (13:05.208)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (13:06.032)
Now that I've announced that my teeth are yellow, now everyone's going to be calling it out and be like, yep, you do have yellow teeth. Right. We know.

Kelli (13:10.99)
Yeah, I mean, we know. We know, people.

Wendy (13:18.7)
What else? Andy said it was touching about the anniversary of your brother's death. What you said that the hardest thing about not being with Lindsay is not having her friendship. And I'm glad that he brought that up. And Andy said, you still miss that friendship? And he starts to get emotional. He's like, yeah. He's like, didn't mean to get emotional, but.

Kelli (13:31.373)
Yeah.

Wendy (13:44.744)
Like we had a lot of fun together. You know, it's hard. He's like, you know, I had a love for her. I had a love for her family. You know, she's an amazing person. It just wasn't right for our relationship and losing a friend no matter what the circumstances, you know, sucks. And then he asks Lindsay, you know, if she misses Carl's relationship. And she's like, listen, I don't know that I'm there yet. But I thought to be quite honest with you, the way the two of them handled it at this reunion, I was...

Kelli (13:46.636)
Yeah.

Kelli (13:59.586)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (14:13.744)
I was happy with it. I thought they both were very mature. I think Carl is a class act. I think Lindsay is growing up, you know, now that she has a daughter. And I really think she's growing. I really do.

Kelli (14:15.822)
Totally.

Kelli (14:20.194)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (14:24.334)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (14:29.486)
Totally agree.

Wendy (14:31.376)
And then Andy asked like, made you acknowledge it, you know, in the club? And she's like, listen, I know how hard that was for him. And I think it's something that needed to be acknowledged. And once again, Carl appreciated it, said his family appreciated it. So I thought that was good. What I'm confused about with this reunion is they kept saying that we're going to learn something. Like, do you feel like you learned something? Okay.

Kelli (14:59.264)
Nothing. Even Jessie on a podcast said something shocking was gonna come out. Nothing shocking came out of what Amanda was gonna leave Kyle. Come on now. One, I don't even believe it. And two, wait, maybe that Lindsay's not with Turner anymore?

Wendy (15:04.18)
Yeah.

Wendy (15:10.163)
Right.

Wendy (15:16.912)
Or maybe that, I mean, all the lying that Craig did and all the covering up Paige did for him, but still, none of these things were shocking.

Kelli (15:26.102)
No, and we kind of knew that already. We knew he got kicked out of Amanda and Kyle's wedding. Like we knew all this. This is the problem with Bravo though. Like they just, they hype everything up and it's just not there. But of course, of course.

Wendy (15:28.21)
We knew all of it.

Wendy (15:32.092)
Right, right.

Wendy (15:40.456)
Well, they do it because they want us to watch.

Wendy (15:45.82)
Yeah. Then Andy asked Lindsay, you know, why she doesn't live with Turner. And that's when she said, listen, we put our romantic relationship on pause and everyone, everyone except for Gabby look shocked. And Kyle asked like, when, like, when did this happen? Like I, you know, I was just with you. And she's like, no, like we were on pause then. And Wes like, when I was there and she's like, yeah, you know.

Kelli (15:55.959)
Yeah.

Kelli (16:00.375)
Yeah.

Kelli (16:12.344)
Yeah, I know how about that West was there for two hours. He's like I never even I mean guys aren't really gonna pick up on that and really but you know

Wendy (16:20.798)
But like she said, they're really good friends and they get along. They co-parent well. So what would you have noticed?

Kelli (16:24.098)
They co-parent well and that's the most important thing.

Kelli (16:30.124)
Right. Right.

Wendy (16:34.972)
She said that, you know, they're like best friends, they're tag teaming with the baby. Andy asked if you are friends with Benefits and she said no. He said you date other people and she said, I'm not there yet. Andy said, she did, she did and she admitted that. I mean, she admitted that on the show.

Kelli (16:49.058)
You know, she got pregnant very quickly when they started dating.

Yeah, that's tough to begin with. a surprise pregnancy to begin with is a lot to handle. And then not in a long-term, like, it's just a lot. But it sounds like they gave it a good go. And again, as long as they're co-parenting well, that's all that matters.

Wendy (17:03.038)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (17:13.448)
That's all that matters. That's all that matters. Andy said, you know, is he dating other people? And she's like, I don't think so. And then Andy said, well, what if you found out that he was dating someone? What would you do? And she's like, well, he would not be spending half, you know, half the nights of the week at my house. So I'm glad that, and even, don't know which one of them said it. Was it Gabby? No, one of them said, no, it was.

was a page that said that like Lindsay is really like recognizing, or maybe it was Sierra, recognizing like where she's at in her life. Like they don't have to be in this relationship. She's gone through having a pregnancy, having a breakup, engaged to be married. Like there's so much going on. She's postpartum depression. that's...

Kelli (18:06.87)
Yeah, yeah, she talks about that, yeah.

Wendy (18:08.668)
Right, like there's a lot going on in a short amount of time and she's mature enough to realize that and say, listen, I have this baby, I wanna be happy, I want to do this the way I wanna do this. And who said that to her? Who recognized it?

Kelli (18:14.68)
Right.

Kelli (18:25.102)
feel like maybe it was Sierra, like you said.

Wendy (18:27.964)
Yeah, I wish I could remember. I mean, and the other issue is she's public and he's private. And like she said, you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. So it's not like all of a sudden she could decide to say, you know, I don't want to do this anymore. Everyone knows who she is.

Kelli (18:42.722)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Kelli (18:49.238)
Yeah, I don't follow her. I'm gonna have to start following her. I wonder if she does post pictures of the baby. I would imagine she does.

Wendy (18:58.214)
Yeah, mean, I've seen pictures of her and the baby with Aaron.

Kelli (19:04.437)
that's right, I remember that.

Wendy (19:05.246)
But I'll be quite honest with you, I don't know if it was the back of the baby or not. I don't know. I really wasn't paying that much attention to it.

Kelli (19:09.527)
Okay.

Kelli (19:13.612)
Yeah. Well, we saw her at the reunion when they took a lunch break.

Wendy (19:18.492)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kelli (19:19.234)
the baby.

Kelli (19:22.712)
Did you notice the commercials with Sierra? Sierra had a Nissan commercial and some cleaning thing. She's getting a lot of commercials. Absolutely. Yeah, that's great.

Wendy (19:31.528)
Yes, she's had, yeah, good for her. Good for her.

Andy then says, Karla was a different animal re-entering the dating scene and launching a new business all at his own pace.

Andy asked if you were upset to Lindsay seeing Carl bring a girl into the house. And Lindsay said, no, I wasn't. I wasn't there that weekend. And Carl was going to have fun. was the weekend to do it. She's like, but what did annoy me is for him to do, like, talked about where I conceived my daughter. Like, I didn't want to, you know. And Lindsay said, I don't know why you're talking about me where I conceived my daughter.

Kelli (20:12.174)
Yeah, that was, yeah.

Wendy (20:20.166)
And then all of a sudden that she's like, we didn't conceive my child on a bed. So in general, so it wasn't that bad. And Carl was like, I take full responsibility and I'm sorry. Like, you know, he was just assuming.

Kelli (20:31.554)
Yeah. Yeah.

Right. As one would.

Wendy (20:36.838)
Yeah, as one would. But you know what, why would he assume that? Because who's to say Turner didn't have a bed? Like, why would you assume it's at your bed in that apartment?

Kelli (20:38.51)
you

Kelli (20:45.91)
I think he, yeah, yeah, no, you're right. You're right. You're right.

Wendy (20:48.692)
Andy asked Kyle, know, know Carl the best out of everyone, like what is different about him now as opposed to him entering the house nine years ago. And I was actually surprised what he said. He's like, going back, know, Carl on the weekend was not the Carl that I knew during the week. Like he was on substances on the weekends, which I don't know. I'm just surprised he said that to be quite honest with you.

Kelli (21:18.648)
Well, I mean, he said worse, you know, he...

Wendy (21:21.978)
I- he absolutely has said- but he apologized. Yeah.

Kelli (21:24.408)
So it is kind of surprising that, no, I know, but it's surprising that he would say anything like that again, you know, after that having affected their friendship. Even though they got past it, thank God, but yeah.

Wendy (21:30.375)
Yeah.

Wendy (21:34.492)
Yeah. Yeah. But everyone in the house agrees that like they love Carl the way he is now. And you know, they don't want him to change. And I do too. I like the Carl that's there.

Kelli (21:48.045)
Yeah.

Wendy (21:50.932)
Then we go to Kyle and Amanda

Kelli (21:51.117)
Yeah.

Wendy (21:57.702)
I mean, yeah. Andy's like, four years ago, Kyle and Amanda plans to start a family or on the back burner. And while their marriage seems healthier than ever, would we ever see the day when an aspiring DJ and a swimsuit designer ever have a baby? Okay, well, he's not, I know, exactly. he, whatever. It's like, really?

Kelli (21:57.742)
snooze fast.

Kelli (22:14.753)
dramatic

Wendy (22:23.412)
But then we find out that in the beginning of the summer, Amanda and Kyle had a long conversation and they do show you a clip of it. So it was filmed what he needed to do to see them move forward. And she says that she had one foot out the door. This honestly does not surprise me. It doesn't.

Kelli (22:40.11)
Not at all.

Wendy (22:41.94)
Kyle admits that he knew the relationship was on shaky ground, so it didn't surprise him either. He says that he needs to stop thinking of the Hamptons as like his last hurrah and getting drunk on the weekends is his big release because he is a workaholic.

Kelli (22:59.852)
Yeah, so, okay, so you're obsessed with work, right? You're obsessed with work. Now, and now you're DJing on the weekends? Like, he's not, yes, he's definitely a workaholic, but he's putting everything else first before her is basically the problem. And until he stops doing that, she's not gonna wanna have a baby with him. Who the fuck would? I mean, you grow up, grow up, now you're a DJ?

Wendy (23:03.687)
Right.

Wendy (23:08.797)
Right.

Wendy (23:24.188)
Right, no, I totally agree. I agree.

Yeah.

Kelli (23:30.658)
Come on.

Kelli (23:34.552)
He annoys the shit out of me.

Wendy (23:38.014)
So a viewer asked Kyle about when he went on vacation with Amanda, how she was very romantic. And don't you think that if you were around more and you were giving, you if you weren't such a workaholic that you would get that from her and you could see Amanda shaking her head yes. And Kyle goes to say something and Amanda's like, yeah, like, yes, that's exactly it. And Kyle said, well, everything I'm doing is, you know, to build a future for us. Amanda's like, but if you keep...

Kelli (23:57.752)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (24:04.668)
working like this, there's going to be no future. There's going to be no us. Like, right.

Kelli (24:09.314)
Right, like I'm gonna leave. When is enough enough?

Wendy (24:14.054)
Right. I didn't realize that his end game for Loverboy was to sell it. Did you?

Kelli (24:19.874)
Me neither. Nope.

Wendy (24:25.096)
But know, Amanda kind of breaks down the day. Like he gets up early, goes to the gym, works all day. She makes him dinner. I guess they still live across the street from the, across the hallway from the office, right? So he comes over and eats and then goes back to the office, finishes emails. Then on the weekends he's traveling and doing like, he's never around. Yep.

Kelli (24:36.45)
Yep. From their office. Yeah.

Kelli (24:46.83)
He's never around. Who would want to have a baby with somebody like that? I mean, listen, don't get me wrong. Some people are, you know, I have friends who are married to, and their husbands travel a lot for work and it's, that's, you know, hard, but they're not traveling for work. And then when they don't have to travel, choosing to do something else where they're not around. Like he's not around during the week because he's across the hall working.

Wendy (24:57.842)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (25:10.258)
Right.

Kelli (25:15.116)
and then he's choosing to travel on the weekends to go DJ for a hobby.

Wendy (25:20.124)
Right, exactly, exactly.

Kelli (25:22.776)
Yeah.

Wendy (25:24.542)
So Kyle says, I'm trying to front load it so that when we do have a family, I can be around. And that's when we find out that the plan is to sell Loverboy, because even Amanda said, I'm hoping he'll sell Loverboy. I mean, how many years has he had Loverboy now at this point? Because he had it, right? It's been nine years. So hap-

Kelli (25:42.094)
As long as he's been on the show. Absolutely. First season, Loverboy was a thing.

Wendy (25:50.332)
So how is it not ready to be sold yet? Like what else do you have to do?

Kelli (25:55.15)
I mean, it's going on 10 years. And I, listen, I give him credit. I've said it before. Like there were no, they're basically a hard seltzer, right?

Wendy (25:56.978)
Right? I don't know.

Wendy (26:05.47)
Well, no, because he said when they were talking about it, was a tea. It was a hard iced tea. It wasn't carbonated. That was the whole.

Kelli (26:12.472)
but I think the other ones were, I don't know. But he was like one of the first to do this. So I don't know why it hasn't taken off. Maybe they suck, who knows? I know they're damn expensive.

Wendy (26:19.006)
Yeah.

Wendy (26:27.046)
Yeah, that could be part of it too. That could be part of it.

Kelli (26:28.717)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (26:35.998)
So then Andy asked Kyle how old he is and Kyle's 42. Amanda said, Kyle's not ready to have kids. And Kyle said, well, are you? And she's like, yeah, I'm ready to have kids with someone who's ready to have kids. With me, you know?

Kelli (26:47.352)
Right. Especially because, and I give her a lot of credit for this, because I had postpartum depression and it came out of nowhere. I never saw it coming. She is aware of her mental health issues and she's planning, like she's preparing how to deal with it. Like that's so good. Yeah. So to...

Wendy (27:03.123)
Yes.

Wendy (27:11.7)
Absolutely, absolutely.

Kelli (27:15.624)
Know that you might have these issues and a partner that's not gonna be around. Fuck that. mean, Eric had to go to Vegas for a work conference when Tess was three weeks old and I was, you know, had postpartum depression. I was beside myself. My best friend came and stayed with me for the week.

Wendy (27:22.96)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Wendy (27:38.812)
Yeah. I mean, and then we find out that one, medicine that she's taking, she can take when she's pregnant, which that's amazing, right? And we find out from Lindsay that she also had postpartum depression and she applauds, you know, Amanda for recognizing it and taking the steps and talking about it and, you know, for having the foresight to plan.

Kelli (27:44.812)
Yeah. Yep.

Kelli (27:57.368)
Yeah.

Kelli (28:04.802)
Yeah. You know, Sierra asked a great question. She asked Kyle, like, what about enjoying your time now without kids? Like, you're saying that you're working so hard now to prepare for when you have kids so you can be around. Like, what about being around now? Like, seriously, I picture poor Amanda sitting in that fucking room, you know, what, I keep going to say hotel room, but their apartment and like alone with her two dogs, like,

Wendy (28:30.132)
department.

Kelli (28:34.818)
you know, twiddling her thumbs while he's, not that she doesn't work, I'm just saying at night when it's time to relax, like she's sitting there alone.

Wendy (28:42.099)
Right.

Well, she does say right now she's focusing on her and Kyle's focusing on himself and they're both in a good place. That's why she came out with her swimsuit line. That's why she's doing stuff for her. And I'm glad she is. I'm glad she is. And then Andy asked Amanda if she considered freezing her eggs. And she said yes. And Kyle said that he has a sperm on ice. I just think this is so weird, these men putting their sperm on ice.

Kelli (28:57.122)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (29:10.486)
It's very weird because men can have babies into their 90s. is there a, is it necessary or?

Wendy (29:13.991)
I know, know, like what?

Wendy (29:18.63)
especially considering Kyle announced, I mean, how many his count was in the beginning of the season. I mean, why are you putting those on ice? Seriously? What's gonna happen? Yeah. And then that's when he brought up Craig and he said, Craig also has his sperm on ice and Paige is like, well, good for him. And then Andy brings up the spritz cocktail drama.

Kelli (29:25.364)
Exactly. Right. I think you're good.

Kelli (29:50.294)
I mean, listen, it's not looking good. It does look like Craig is a big fat liar.

Wendy (29:55.804)
Yes, it does. I said this from the very beginning. I was Team Paige and you were like, no, no, no.

Kelli (30:03.63)
I'm still not Team Paige. I see why she did what she did. I definitely think she had every right to break up with him. We're not seeing him being unsupportive, but he must have been, right? We're not seeing him being unsupportive on Southern Charm or Summer House at all. But if she's telling the truth, then he must have been unsupportive. But...

Wendy (30:12.222)
Okay.

Wendy (30:30.782)
Right.

Kelli (30:32.352)
I mean, not that I completely, 100 % believe Kyle, because I don't really believe any of them, what any of them say, but I guess if like six people are calling you a liar, did you see what Kristin Cavallari came out and said?

Wendy (30:48.373)
No, but I heard she did say something about him, right? Did she used to date him?

Kelli (30:51.622)
yeah. It was a very short time. It was around the time that Madison and Austin broke up and Madison, I think was DMing Jay Cutler, her ex, Kristen Cavalieri's ex. There was something going on. But yeah, she did not have nice things to say about Craig. But I don't like her either, quite honestly. And her being on Watch What Happens Live with Amanda the other night, I'm like...

Wendy (31:08.456)
Okay.

Wendy (31:17.756)
Hmm. Yeah, I think it's I didn't get to say

Kelli (31:18.69)
That's kinda calculated. But yeah, I mean all fingers are pointing to Craig being a liar. I mean his own castmates have said it.

Wendy (31:26.376)
Yes, yes they have. They have. I mean, he has said it himself.

Kelli (31:29.463)
Yeah.

Kelli (31:33.678)
Yeah, he said it on the show. He told his life coach. Like, it's very easy for me to lie. And she was like, huh?

Wendy (31:37.778)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (31:45.169)
You

Wendy (31:45.556)
Then it comes up about, know, Kyle says that he didn't really, until it was brought up in the summer about the Craig situation, Kyle really didn't talk to Paige about it because he really didn't know how much of it she knew. And then when he realized by the text messages he was getting from Craig that Craig doesn't know what's going on. So how the heck could Paige, like everything he was saying was a contradiction.

And he was saying stuff like, well, I didn't know you did a spritz. so we're doing a tea. Now, meanwhile, Kyle's like, we've been doing a tea from the very beginning. And then I didn't know this, but I'm doing this. but my investor said this, but I was asking your opinion, but I already signed it. And he's like, what are you talking about? And that's, he's, it was a lot. It was a lot. And he said like, after he explains all this, he's like,

Kelli (32:32.994)
Yeah, it was a lot.

Wendy (32:43.892)
I was like, I can't with this guy. And Sierra was like, that was the most white boy thing ever. I was like, it's so true though. And that is actually one of the things I like about him because like, this is who he is. Like, he's just like, he's like a kind of like a politician. Like he wants to make everything okay. Like he doesn't want to throw him under the bus. He wants to, you know, like accept it for what it is. Like, you know,

Kelli (32:50.478)
That was funny.

Wendy (33:13.076)
Andy said, why did you apologize to him? He's like, well, I was just trying to, you know, like make things okay. Right, be the bigger person.

Kelli (33:17.976)
bigger person.

Kelli (33:23.234)
The thing about the wedding is very interesting because I remember hearing that he didn't want to use a porta potty outside. He insisted on going in the house. And you know, I don't know if you remember this, but on winter house. So it must've been the second season because Paige and Craig were dating by now because they weren't dating the first season of winter house. Second season, they were dating and Kyle and Amanda normally get the nice

Wendy (33:32.498)
That's why he was going in the house.

Wendy (33:45.66)
Right. Right.

Kelli (33:52.654)
Primary suite wherever they stay

And Craig was like, I'll pay you, I'll pay you right now, $500, I'll pay you for the primary suite. Like Craig was being a brat. And then when it came time to like cleaning up after a party or something, Craig wouldn't do it. Which by the way, Paige doesn't either though, she never cleans. And Craig wouldn't either. He was acting very, he must've just like really started making money with his business or whatever, but he was acting very like hoity-toity.

Wendy (34:04.276)
Obnoxious, yes, I do remember that.

Wendy (34:16.228)
No, she never does. No.

Kelli (34:29.134)
And that must've been how he was acting at Amanda's house. Amanda's parents beautiful house. And I believe, I forget what town it is. It's near Princeton. Is it Hightstown? Wherever, no. I forget what town it was in. But beautiful, beautiful. so this, know, Amanda's father's obviously very successful. And Craig must've gone in there and just acted like a complete.

Wendy (34:45.822)
Somewhere in New Jersey.

Kelli (34:59.278)
And then she said she asked him to apologize to Amanda's parents and he refused. I mean, talk about no self-awareness. We all make mistakes. all do things we're a little embarrassed about when we're drunk. The best thing you can do is wake up the next morning and apologize.

Wendy (35:00.435)
Yeah.

Wendy (35:06.388)
That's crazy.

Wendy (35:20.274)
Yeah, I mean that was crazy. That was crazy. I mean he was asked to leave the property. She said that he was kicking tables, he was yelling at people, he was acting like an entitled brat. I was like,

Kelli (35:22.402)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Kelli (35:37.294)
Holy C-

Wendy (35:40.144)
Andy said, is there anything else you feel like you had to lie about to protect him? Paige like, honestly, like I've never had a lie my entire life. And that's all she did was lie to cover up for him.

Kelli (35:53.282)
I mean, listen, there was a reason he stopped drinking when he did, and that must have been it.

Wendy (35:58.738)
Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (36:00.428)
So thank, you know, that's good. I mean, he did always say she, you know, made him a better person. And honestly, listen, I understand she wanted him to defend her with the cheating rumor. I don't think anyone ever believed that Paige cheated on him. I never believed she cheated on him. I don't think anybody did. I think, I don't think...

Wendy (36:20.977)
No, I didn't either.

Kelli (36:26.446)
I understand her feeling the way she felt she wanted him to defend her, but honestly, I don't even think it was necessary because I don't think anybody believed it to begin with. He kind of made himself, and I agree with him that once, you know, she broke up with him, he doesn't owe her anything anymore.

Wendy (36:35.795)
Yeah.

Kelli (36:46.614)
I don't, you know.

Wendy (36:46.684)
Listen, I agree with that, but what she was saying is, and she even said, I don't think he owes me anything, but he didn't have to like double down and like lean into, well, she wanted other people because like that's what he did. Like that's what he said, you know?

Kelli (36:57.686)
Yeah, no, I don't agree with that, yeah.

Kelli (37:02.848)
I think that what happened was...

Nobody saw it coming. We were all shocked as Bravo fans. We were all shocked. Finding out that she was the one who initiated it. She started getting a lot of heat in the media over it. And he just let it all play out. He just stayed silent and let her take all the heat because his ego was bruised.

Wendy (37:19.048)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (37:30.034)
Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I totally agree.

Kelli (37:36.024)
She said she'll never say his name again, but she actually did say his name in the first reunion episode.

Wendy (37:41.276)
I know. But maybe I know that maybe she got she's never gonna say, Yep, yep. Good. Good for her.

Kelli (37:43.192)
But now, from now going forward, I'm never saying his name again. I think that eventually they'll probably get to a better place, but I don't blame her for being where she's at right now. I don't.

Wendy (37:57.972)
I actually don't think they will get to a better place. I don't think there's any reason for them to. He's in South Carolina. mean, she's in New... Yeah, yeah. Speaking of that, did you see who's going to BravoCon? From New Jersey? It's Melissa.

Kelli (38:06.892)
Yeah, BravoCon's gonna be real interesting.

Kelli (38:17.848)
from, yeah. Basically Rachel and Danielle are the only two that aren't confirmed to go.

Wendy (38:24.178)
are not going, Yeah. Or Jen, Jen Eden. Jen Eden's not going. Yeah. We're never gonna see her again.

Kelli (38:28.472)
Well, I don't think we are ever gonna see her again, which is, I don't like her, don't get me wrong, but I'd like one season of her on the show without Teresa.

Wendy (38:42.58)
Hmm, I don't need that, thanks. No, no thank you. So Andy tells his side of this, Craig's side of the story of the breakup and then Paige tells her side. We don't need to go into the whole thing. Everyone knows it now at this point, right?

Kelli (38:47.094)
Not interested, huh? Big no for Wendy.

Kelli (39:02.358)
Yeah, I mean, listen, I think we can all agree that it's best that they're not together anymore.

Wendy (39:06.426)
Yes, definitely, definitely, definitely.

What else happens? So then, summer's just around the corner and Lindsay, despite what your castmate said, Lindsay said to West, fuck you, spending time in the Hamptons, do you plan on spending time in the Hamptons this year? And she's like, yes, I do, but I don't know if I'll be living at the house every weekend. It's my first summer with Gemma and I'm really excited for that. So I think that's, you know.

Kelli (39:13.592)
Lindsay.

Wendy (39:40.702)
kind of telling us where she's at. And I think that's a good place to be at. Don't close the door. Don't just leave it out there. I did like that Carl talked about Kyle meeting Gemma and we saw that scene, how he thinks he'll be a good dad. I do too. think Kyle, if he's present, I think he will be a good dad. You don't agree.

Kelli (40:10.676)
I think that Kyle is a very selfish person. I don't think Kyle's. Maybe. I mean, if he gets past that.

Wendy (40:20.968)
Yeah.

So then it

Kelli (40:23.65)
I mean, I understand he wants to be financially set. I wish I were more like that personally, but I don't know. I think he just likes to do whatever Kyle wants to do.

Wendy (40:38.216)
Well, Amanda said a couple more years. So, I mean, we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens in a couple of years, right?

Kelli (40:43.224)
Yeah. I what her parents really think of him.

Wendy (40:51.004)
I don't think we'll find out anytime soon, not as long as they're together. And if they're not, maybe we'll find out, but I doubt it. I don't think that they would say anything.

Kelli (40:52.942)
No, don't think so either. Right.

Kelli (41:01.42)
No, just like that whole thing with Paige's father was a bunch of nonsense.

Wendy (41:03.962)
Yeah, there's no way he said that. There's no way he said that. So Andy says, well, Paige and Amanda got to try Lindsay's breast milk. So we brought out Sun for everyone else to try. And he said, I'm only kidding. And they're ringing out little baby Russians, little baby white Russians. says, except for Carl, Carl gets to try it. He is really like a comedian tonight. And Carl's face.

Kelli (41:12.919)
Yeah.

Kelli (41:27.116)
He really was.

Wendy (41:29.076)
He's like, no, no, no. So Carl got oat milk. Everyone else got the white Russians. I thought that was cute. And I guess we just have to wait and see what happens. mean, it's June 5th right now that we're recording this and they're gonna be filming within the next month. So we'll see what happens. We'll see who actually shows up and what's gonna happen. We'll have to wait and see.

Kelli (41:38.093)
Yeah.

Kelli (41:44.835)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (41:50.669)
Yep.

Kelli (41:57.699)
Yeah, it sounds like Kyle and Amanda are coming back though because on Watch What Happens Live, she said, you know, she had to ask her castmates questions and her question to Lindsay would be, can you come spend the weekends with us in the Hamptons and please bring baby Gemma? So they're planning on being there. Listen, I'm sure everybody's coming back except Emeril because he got kicked off the couch. Ridiculous.

Wendy (42:15.74)
Yeah.

Kelli (42:24.886)
I think they should give him another season and see what it... I think they should bring all these people... Mom? I don't know. I change my mind every week.

Wendy (42:31.304)
Hmm, I don't know either. Okay, until next time, thank you for watching and listening to We Why Whenever. Please subscribe and tell your friends and give us five star reviews. Bye.

Kelli (42:43.213)
Bye.