RHOBH-Reunion Part 3-The Word on the Street Is… DRAMA

RHOBH-Reunion Part 3-The Word on the Street Is… DRAMA

RHOBH Reunion Part 3

The final part of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills reunion delivered raw emotion, explosive confrontations, and surprising moments of clarity. Tensions soared as Sutton defended herself against accusations of arrogance, gift-giving manipulation, and rumors of a drinking problem. Dorit and Boz challenged her, while Garcelle called out the group’s double standards and lack of grace toward her.

Garcelle and Boz’s heated exchange over being labeled “angry” reignited a broader conversation around stereotypes and emotional expression. Meanwhile, Sutton opened up about unresolved trauma tied to her father’s passing and complex relationship with her mother—a surprisingly tender and emotional arc.

Kyle faced tough questions about her marriage and separation from Mauricio. She revealed feelings of sadness and distance, acknowledged she had seen his messages before the split, and addressed swirling rumors about her sexuality. Erika opened up about her emotional growth, her son’s involvement in the A$AP Rocky trial, and the surreal feeling of watching her ex-husband’s legal downfall.

Jennifer Tilly added levity with corn dogs and heartfelt support for Sutton. Kathy Hilton was equal parts Steel Magnolia and comic relief, while Dorit found genuine friendship in a surprising place.

The episode wrapped with final reflections, affirming friendships, personal growth, and a playful toast from Jennifer: “The best ships in the world are friendships.”

Transcript

Wendy (00:01.004)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:03.512)
I'm Kelly.

Lori (00:04.443)
and I'm Lori.

Wendy (00:06.348)
We are talking about Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, Reunion Part 3.

Lori (00:12.956)
Baa baa baa.

Wendy (00:14.954)
Yeah, I know many people are glad it's over. There's still a lot of talk online about it. I can't believe it because we're very late recording this because I'm away in Florida. So we just this a little bit later than normal. But people are still like in arms about this whole reunion.

Lori (00:18.766)
yeah.

Kelli (00:34.553)
And people are still so gung-ho for Sutton.

Wendy (00:39.79)
Yes.

Lori (00:40.888)
gung ho. Like, if we just...

Kelli (00:42.801)
Like, I can't believe it because I thought, especially in this episode, it was very clear where her loyalty lied. And that is why I think Arsel felt the way she did at the end.

Wendy (00:54.754)
Alright, I agree. I agree.

Lori (00:56.956)
But we get it online from people. my God. All you do is bash Sutton. you just speak Erica supporters. And I think to myself, I know that we kind of have our own opinions about stuff, but first of all, people, it's only a TV show. And second of all, I don't feel like we're that much in anybody's camp. So I'm just confused.

Kelli (00:56.973)
I mean...

Kelli (01:01.417)
yeah!

Yeah.

Wendy (01:23.938)
Listen, no, and you know, we just kind of talk about like what our take is on it. And it's just our opinion. It's just our opinion. You know, it is what it is.

Kelli (01:24.025)
Not on this show, for me.

Lori (01:26.362)
views.

Lori (01:31.396)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (01:32.42)
That's right.

Lori (01:35.388)
And another thing, I-

Kelli (01:35.877)
I would feel the same way Garcelle feels if I were Garcelle and Sutton were my friend. I 100 % would feel the same way.

Wendy (01:42.286)
I completely, I completely agree, especially at the very end when Andy was doing the wrap up and she said that, Gorsel said about, I mean, I'm totally skipping ahead, but who cares? It's our show. We can do whatever the hell we want. When Gorsel said she really got to know and her relationship with her mom and that she, that was one of the things she was grateful for. And then,

Kelli (01:58.317)
Yes, we can.

Lori (01:58.564)
Try as you can.

Wendy (02:11.796)
Sutton goes, my relationship with Erica. I was like, and you could see the look on Garcelle's face. was like,

Kelli (02:14.67)
Yep.

Kelli (02:19.001)
Yep. You could totally see it on Garcelle's face. really? Like, it's bad enough you didn't, you know, stick up for me with Kyle all this time. Now you're gonna do me like that with Erica? After Erica's been saying, you know, what, you're not there for, you you stomp on women when they're out there lowest?

Wendy (02:24.022)
Yeah.

Wendy (02:30.35)
All

Yes, exactly.

Lori (02:33.628)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (02:40.63)
Yeah, I know. I know that was crazy.

Lori (02:42.543)
Another thing people keep saying is that we're pronouncing Sutton's name wrong. is her name? Sutton. Is it because we're from New Jersey? I don't understand.

Wendy (02:51.21)
No, it's Bose's name. We, no, we pronounce Sutton's name right. Sometimes we say Boz for Bose, but we,

Lori (02:57.914)
Yeah, that I get, but people keep saying we're pronouncing your name wrong. I'm like, I don't know what you want me to say. Like, I don't know how.

Kelli (03:04.505)
I do remember somebody writing it's Sut-tin, like Sut-ton, lowercase s-u-t, big, all caps t-o-n. But we do say Sut-in, Sut-in.

Lori (03:16.636)
Sun.

Wendy (03:16.92)
We say Sutton, like Sutton Foster. You know who says that like emphasizes the ton is Jennifer Tilly when she says Sutton, like, right?

Kelli (03:25.854)
she does. Yeah, yeah. She has a different accent. Yeah.

Lori (03:26.596)
Yeah, she does. Yeah, but she's from Canada. She also says, she also says men's.

Wendy (03:29.902)
I think it's, yeah, I think she just does it too. Like she's got a different relationship with her too, you know? Like it's, yes, exactly. I think it's dramatic. The funny thing is, so we're in Florida and Bill was helping some guy at Costco, know, being Bill helping, know, helping someone put something in his car. And the guy says to Bill, no, we have a rental car.

Kelli (03:35.375)
Yeah, she does say that.

Kelli (03:39.459)
Yeah, she's dramatic.

Lori (03:49.692)
actually worth.

Wendy (03:57.464)
the rental car plates are Virginia. And the guy says to Bill, where in New Jersey are you from? Bill's like, well, how do you know I was from New Jersey? I said, you opened your mouth, I was like, okay. So we start out with Dorit saying to Sa, and you behave like you're superior to other people. And Dorit said, I know you're used to

Lori (04:05.488)
Yeah, open your mouth.

Kelli (04:05.893)
Yeah, it doesn't it doesn't take long to figure it out

Kelli (04:13.337)
That's really funny.

Wendy (04:26.306)
buying people and said, like, who is it that I'm buying? Like, you know, what are you talking about? And Jennifer Tilly chimes in and she says, well, she is very generous. And then Kathy Hilton all of a sudden says, no, I actually, I think she's frugal. And he said, you're saying that she's cheap?

Kelli (04:45.775)
That was funny.

Lori (04:48.28)
really? But in all honesty, frugal and cheap are two different things. I think I'm a very frugal person, but I don't necessarily think that I'm cheap.

Kelli (04:57.315)
I think that Cathy says things to try to help people out. Whether she really is helping them out or not is debatable, but I do think her intent, yeah, I do think her intent is to help people out. And in this case, it was.

Wendy (05:01.166)
she definitely does.

Lori (05:01.309)
yeah, definitely does.

Most of the time, most of the time it's a no. Yeah.

Yeah, this one.

Wendy (05:10.722)
Yes. Garcelle, accused Bo's of being Dorit's spokesperson, Andy said. Bo says, my question was if she wanted to leave, why didn't she just leave when she went up and she was talking to a Sutton sitting at the front door and everyone was surrounded, you know, around her? And it is, no, it is absolutely true. And

Lori (05:32.156)
which is kind of true.

Wendy (05:39.384)
Bose also mentions, which, you know, I didn't pick it up and obviously Garcelle didn't pick it up either, that both Garcelle, not that Garcelle said it, but Sutton said in the after show that Bose was angry. And Bose at me. Now, Bose said she said an angry black woman. She didn't say that. She said, she didn't say black woman. She just said angry. But when she mentioned that to Garcelle, you could see the look

Lori (05:53.52)
Yeah, she said, I don't know why she's so angry at me. Yeah.

Kelli (06:02.009)
No, she didn't.

Wendy (06:08.98)
on Garcelle's face. Like, wait, I would not have missed that because we know that that's a trigger word for Garcelle, angry.

Kelli (06:15.385)
Well, I have that in my notes. It's interesting that Garcelle did not have an opinion about that. However, when Dorie called her aggressive, she was very put off by it. And to me, aggressive and angry are two very different words. I think angry is worse.

Wendy (06:24.758)
Yes. Yes. Yes.

Lori (06:32.817)
Yes.

Wendy (06:35.478)
I mean, I think that they're equally as bad, but she didn't say anything. And like I said, the look on her face when Bo's pointed it out, she seems surprised that she missed it because that is something that she normally calls out, right?

Kelli (06:38.295)
Okay. But she didn't say anything, Garcelle.

Kelli (06:48.698)
Yeah.

Lori (06:53.338)
And she, well, she was sitting right there, so I don't know how she missed it. I heard it.

Kelli (06:58.509)
You did hear it, you remember her saying that. I don't watch the after show, so I had no idea.

Lori (06:59.578)
Yeah, I'm in person. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (07:00.852)
I didn't remember her saying it until she pointed it out. After she pointed it out and they played it, I was like, that's right. She did say that.

Lori (07:14.448)
But Boze is right. She didn't, she was like, well, I don't know where you're getting that. Like I'm, I didn't yell. I raise my voice.

Wendy (07:21.356)
Well, because that's what Sutton said. You were yelling at me and she's like, no, I wasn't yelling. I never yell. And then Sutton said, well, you came in strong. But Bo says, I am strong, which was the perfect answer. She is strong, right?

Lori (07:25.55)
No, she wasn't yelling.

Kelli (07:26.531)
And she wasn't yelling.

Lori (07:36.219)
Yes.

Kelli (07:39.759)
Sutton just talks a big game, but can't, you know.

Wendy (07:43.658)
No, she can't back it up. Boz then does admit that when Dorit made the alcohol, the drinking problem, when she was making that comment about the alcohol being in the drink, that she was intentional with that. Like she meant it as a dig. It wasn't like, she had no intent. And she did. And Boz recognized that. But then Dorit said the narrative that you have a drinking problem actually came from you, meaning Sutton.

Kelli (08:02.073)
Yeah, of course.

Wendy (08:14.094)
And Sutton's like, what are you talking about? And she's like, well, in 2020, when you were doing press, you said, I usually have my first drink by 10 a.m. Sutton said, I was joking. And that was during COVID, which, okay, listen, I think we were all drinking at 10 by 10 a.m. during COVID. So then, there you go.

Kelli (08:31.717)
for sure, not on work days, other days, yes, and on work days, 501.

Lori (08:42.246)
Yeah.

Wendy (08:43.914)
And then Dorit's like, well, how am I supposed to know when you're joking about it, if you're walking around with your ocean spray? And that's the other thing she brings up. Just because she brings ocean spray and she likes that in her vodka doesn't mean she has a drinking problem.

Kelli (08:56.237)
Yeah. No, she happens to like that brand.

Wendy (09:01.728)
Right exactly she happens to like that appearance.

Kelli (09:03.843)
Because everybody will have grapefruit juice if you want a vodka and grapefruit, not everybody might have ocean spray. She happens to like ocean spray. That's how I take it, right? Grapefruit.

Wendy (09:10.73)
Is, is it grapefruit or cranberry? it's ocean spray grapefruit.

Kelli (09:16.823)
I thought she had vodka and grapefruit.

Lori (09:17.596)
I thought it was grapefruit. Yeah, I think it is grapefruit. Yeah, I think it is grapefruit.

Wendy (09:19.79)
okay. that's, okay. Listen, I don't really pay that much attention to the beverages to be honest with you. So Andy said, it was one passing comment and Doreen said, yes, but it was brought up all season. And Doreen asked, well, who can joke about it? And basically Sutton said, I can joke about it. And I agree with her on that. You know, if she's going to do something that's self-deprecating and joke about something herself, that's one thing.

Lori (09:26.95)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (09:28.165)
you

Wendy (09:49.59)
I feel like Dorit never even caught on, even after watching the season as to what happened in Augusta when Sutton went back there and the whole Reba thing and how her father passed and how he was an alcoholic and that those, well, she wasn't there, but he was self-medicating and he died by suicide, you know? well, that's what I'm saying.

Kelli (10:06.415)
Well she wasn't there.

Kelli (10:12.589)
Right. But does she know all of that? I guess by now she does.

Wendy (10:17.46)
she watched it like she should have watched the show like this is the reunion.

Kelli (10:20.131)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So by the time she got to the reunion, she should have known, God, yeah.

Wendy (10:23.598)
She should have known and should have acknowledged it. Like there was no acknowledgement on her part as to, know, because Sutton did say, listen, I will own my part in it. Maybe I could have reacted differently. You know, I will try and do better. Like Sutton did try and own her part in this, whereas I felt like Dorit did not.

Kelli (10:26.745)
He should have acknowledged it, Yeah.

Lori (10:27.482)
This is true.

Kelli (10:45.731)
Well, I think part of the problem though is all of the shady bullshit Sutton was saying behind Dorit's back. the thing about, know, Lisa Barlow said Dorit was pretty and Sutton said, when you've had enough surgery, anyone can be pretty. That's a mean thing to say about somebody. although, yeah, her father had substance abuse issues and that resulted in his suicide, that is very sad, should be acknowledged. And, you know, you should be empathetic to that.

Wendy (11:03.276)
Yes. Yes.

Kelli (11:15.631)
But when somebody's saying that you're only pretty because you've had plastic surgery, it's kind of hard to be empathetic with them.

Wendy (11:22.442)
No, I agree, but they both didn't happen at the same time. Like you're carrying this around with you.

Kelli (11:30.243)
Well, yeah, I mean, look at what Kyle and Doree carried around for two years. I agree with you that it's ridiculous how they don't squash things sooner.

Wendy (11:39.894)
Right. Right. Like just.

Lori (11:41.068)
But this is the deal. This is the deal. The bottom line is there's a reason. It's because it's a show. It's a show. It's a show. No, it's a show. It's a show and they make it so that things go on and...

Kelli (11:47.055)
They're not friends. Right, they're not really friends. They really don't care about each other when they're not on camera. Yep.

Wendy (12:02.092)
Right now that.

Lori (12:02.096)
I don't know. It's just, it's just not a good look for women's relationships in general. The housewives, Joads. It's just not, that's not how people really carry on in real life in their relationships. They don't.

Kelli (12:10.692)
Yeah.

Wendy (12:11.33)
No, I agree.

Kelli (12:20.631)
Especially because these women are not friends. They're not casting friends anymore. They're casting people who will make good TV, right? But when it started, I know we sound like a broken record, Gina Keough, Vicki Gunvalson.

Wendy (12:32.92)
Right.

Lori (12:32.985)
It was different, it was friends.

Wendy (12:38.807)
Lori?

Kelli (12:39.095)
Lori Peterson, the other woman Kim, they were all friends. They were all friends when OC started. Joe was kind of like the odd man out, but she kind of got in there. New Jersey, Caroline and Dina were sisters. Teresa was Dina's best friend. Jacqueline was their sister-in-law. Danielle was the odd man out. Like Beverly Hills, Taylor, Kyle, Adrian, Lisa Vanderpump were all friends. Camille was the odd man out.

Wendy (12:41.336)
Joe.

Right.

Kelli (13:07.257)
Like they're not casting friends anymore. They're not casting people with genuine friendships. They're just casting people that they think will make good TV and it's becoming a shit show.

Wendy (13:18.082)
Right, right, I agree, I agree.

Kelli (13:22.957)
All right, there's my Ted talk for the day.

Lori (13:24.742)
There you go, lovely.

Wendy (13:25.09)
Okay, thank you. So things really came to a head in St. Lucia when Erica said, you like to kick women when they're down. And Sutton said, well, didn't others kick you when you were down? And Erica said, listen, I already dealt with that. I cursed them out already. And Kyle's like, well, she was talking that, you know, we weren't there for her as much as Renna.

and but we didn't kick her and Erica said, listen, we're not doing this. I'm glad she shot, know, like just shut this down. That's not like that's not where here's talk. But that's what I like that Erica does. Like she means business when she's there to talk about something, you are not going to send her in another direction. Like she's like, no, this is not the topic here.

Kelli (13:54.597)
She did shut it down nicely.

Yes.

Kelli (14:08.483)
And I give Kyle credit because when that was all going on with Erica, Kyle said on camera to Erica, let me help you. You're not letting us help you. I wanna defend you. You're becoming undefendable. I mean, she said it on camera. So that was genuine.

Wendy (14:23.33)
Yeah. Yes. Yes.

Wendy (14:30.446)
So then we get someone on Twitter said Sutton yells and throws tantrums when people clock her for her bad behavior. Garcels, what's your view on that? Garcels said, well, I would say sometimes it does seem that way. Now, this is the part of the reunion you can tell at this point. Like she's clocked out. She doesn't want to be there. She is not going to cover Sutton anymore. If that's what people are saying, then I see it too.

Kelli (14:49.049)
Yep.

Kelli (14:59.653)
I mean, this is basically when she says, I don't want to answer any more questions.

Wendy (15:02.638)
Yes, that's exactly what she says. I don't want to answer any more questions right now. And Jennifer said, you feel like people are piling on Sutton? And she said, I'm not thinking about that. Actually, I'm talking about me. And they still...

Kelli (15:16.761)
Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (15:19.036)
I feel like there was something, there's gotta be something else. There had to be something else that went down or happened. There's gotta, there's gotta be something else. She, you really don't...

Kelli (15:27.557)
for Garcelle to clock out like that.

Wendy (15:31.254)
I don't think so.

Kelli (15:32.333)
I don't think so either. think she had just had it with Sutton.

Wendy (15:36.246)
I think it was a culmination of things that had gone on and she had been calling out Sutton saying like, you're not holding Kyle accountable. And she would put things out there. I think the straw that broke the camel's back was the house break in when she really went, you know, she stood by what she said and she felt that not a single, nobody had her back on that.

Kelli (15:52.474)
Yeah.

Kelli (16:00.631)
which leads me to believe that she had other conversations. She did have a conversation with Sutton at her beach house about it. And I don't remember if Sutton necessarily agreed with her. She didn't agree with her, okay.

Wendy (16:10.99)
She didn't say anything. You could see the look on her face like,

Kelli (16:16.133)
But that leads me to believe that possibly they had conversations off camera where Sutton maybe did agree with her and wouldn't say it on camera.

Wendy (16:23.628)
Yeah. Yeah. No, I believe that that's probably true. I believe that that's true. And if you think about it, why does Carcel doesn't need this? You know, she doesn't need this. She doesn't need this aggravation. She really...

Lori (16:36.496)
Yeah, but this is the thing. You can't, you can't be pissed because people don't want to agree with an opinion that your castmate did something like nefarious and unlawful. Like, okay, that's what your opinion is. I get it. But you can't be mad that other people aren't going to.

Wendy (16:56.204)
Well, I think if that was the...

Lori (17:06.744)
Agree with you, cause it's just not-

You know what I'm trying to say?

Wendy (17:12.021)
No, I know.

Kelli (17:13.039)
But we think maybe they did agree with her off camera. And then when the cameras are rolling, they're like silent.

Lori (17:18.426)
Then they didn't. Okay, right.

Wendy (17:20.568)
Well, I mean, I think if that was the case, the only person it would have been would have been Sutton because that's only who she talks to. And I think if that was the only issue that maybe she'd have gotten past it, but that wasn't the only issue. I think that was the issue that broke the camel's back where she said, that's it. I don't really have friends here. My only friend here is Sutton and she doesn't even have my back. So why am I doing this? I don't need this aggravation. Like, why am I doing this? She doesn't. She really doesn't.

Kelli (17:24.761)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (17:41.562)
Right.

Yeah, she doesn't. She doesn't need it. She's got plenty going on.

Wendy (17:48.502)
And even when she said, you know, I'm not talking about Sutton, I'm talking about me. Sutton, Sutton's, Sutton's, every, everyone, feel like I'm not well-liked. Sutton says, I feel like I'm not well-liked. When Garcelle is saying,

Kelli (18:04.901)
Sutton says she feels rattled by the group. I just don't think Sutton's cut out for this. She's just not cut out for this. They got it, Bravo, just get rid of her. She's not a good housewife. I know I'm gonna get a lot of flack for that.

Wendy (18:09.187)
Yeah.

No, she really isn't.

Wendy (18:20.128)
Right. Well, it doesn't matter.

Lori (18:22.172)
Well, I think the problem with Sutton is that she has a lot of unresolved trauma. She has a lot of self-esteem issues. And I think that she takes a lot of things very personally and internalizes them and then in turn turns around and kind of snaps. But it's only because

of what she's got going on inside.

Kelli (18:54.895)
funny because she said to Dorit, you're unhappy with your life, not me, and you're taking it out on me. And it's kind she was kind of talking about herself.

Lori (19:02.522)
Kind of, yes, I believe so. So I actually feel bad for her. I think that...

Wendy (19:05.356)
Well, wait, no, no, Dorit said that to Sutton.

Kelli (19:09.775)
Mm-mm. That was Dorit. When Dorit was fighting with Camille too that night, yeah.

Wendy (19:11.36)
no, right. You're right. Sutton's editor, yes. Yes, yes, yes.

Lori (19:15.8)
Right, but Kelly's right. It's almost like she was speaking of herself.

Wendy (19:19.574)
Yeah. No, it's listen, mean Dorita is not an angel in this whole situation. I mean, it surprises me though when we see these polls and you whose side are you on? It's not like it's a landslide either way. I mean, there are people on both sides. There are people on both sides. And to be honest with you, if you ask me whose side it was on, I'm gonna tell you neither. I'm not in either of their sides. I think both of their behavior is reprehensible. Both of them.

Kelli (19:19.832)
No.

Kelli (19:24.236)
No.

Lori (19:24.646)
No, none of them are.

Kelli (19:36.068)
Yeah.

Lori (19:40.506)
Yeah, absolutely. No, no.

Yes.

Kelli (19:44.311)
Right, I think that they need to just get past whatever this is that's between them. Like enough, just move past it for crying out loud. And honestly, it's almost like they're both vying for Kyle's attention, or friendship.

Wendy (19:50.606)
Right. Right.

Wendy (19:59.852)
Right, which is that's yeah.

Kelli (20:01.399)
It's so weird, but you know, she's, I guess she's the queen bee of Beverly Hills.

Lori (20:03.322)
It is weird.

Wendy (20:04.212)
It is wearing.

Wendy (20:09.858)
So Sutton admits that she can do better and she did feel ganged up on the boat. Then Dorit says to Sutton, you need to recognize that you can go low. And she said, no, you know what? I did go low. Then Andy says to Garcelle, I see you're steaming over there. I want to know if you want to tell me what like pissed you off. And Garcelle said, no, all of it. And he's like, all of what? She's like, I don't get any grace in this group. And I stand by the things that I said and I own up to them.

And not one person smiled at me. Nobody looked at me. I'm like, smiled at you. That was a little odd. And then they're like.

Lori (20:47.962)
That's what made me wonder if there was something else. I don't know what, but something else. To me, the math wasn't math.

Kelli (20:54.149)
Yeah.

Wendy (21:02.102)
Yeah, I mean...

Kelli (21:03.129)
Well, she did in the one episode, I don't know if it was the first or the second when they broke for lunch, when she was like, I didn't expect to get all that heat. Like maybe at that point she's like, shit, man, when I got here, nobody was welcoming. Nobody smiled. Nobody said hello. And I just sat on that couch and took grenades for Sutton from these ladies. Maybe that's when like the light bulb went off and she was like, shit, I don't have a damn friend here.

Wendy (21:11.724)
Yeah.

Wendy (21:23.042)
Yeah. Right.

Kelli (21:31.993)
and then Sutton's not, you know, having her back at all.

Wendy (21:36.728)
Well, and I think part of the problem at that point too, not that I'm making excuses for Sutton, was the Xanax. for sure she was on it. Yeah, yeah. I mean, she didn't... Yeah.

Lori (21:43.885)
yeah, she is definitely.

Kelli (21:44.718)
Was she really on it?

Lori (21:47.332)
I think so, Susan, La La. Yeah, she was not snapping back.

Kelli (21:51.791)
Well, I guess after what happened to her last year, she was taking precautionary measures. Yeah.

Wendy (21:57.76)
Yeah, I think that she was. Then the other thing that Andy says, know, he's saying, you know, it's not okay, because you're upset. And she's like, then he does a run through of all the men and the women that the women flirted with this season, right? The chef, the captain, the manly hands. And Andy says to Garcelle, Garcelle's body count is very impressive.

Kelli (22:19.365)
Hmm.

Kelli (22:28.453)
Who said that?

Wendy (22:29.448)
Andy said that and it exactly, exactly.

Lori (22:31.004)
I feel like he was baiting her. Yeah. I think he was, I felt like he was, yeah, I felt like he was baiting her the whole show.

Kelli (22:31.247)
Yeah, why would he say body count? That wasn't nice.

Kelli (22:39.661)
Yeah. mean, body count, that's a, that's, that was not the right term. Roster, like, cause you're insinuating that she had sex with all these people and she clearly didn't. She said she just made out with Johnny Depp. Like that's, body count was not the right thing for him to say.

Wendy (22:40.662)
Yeah, I mean when he said

Lori (22:45.488)
Mm-mm.

Wendy (22:51.245)
Right.

Lori (22:55.354)
Right, you could have said dating. Right, you could have said dating past. You know, right, whatever.

Wendy (22:58.656)
No.

Kelli (23:00.877)
Yeah, men in her life. It's not body count. I guess roster insinuates that as well, right?

Wendy (23:01.514)
Yeah. Right. Right. I know.

Lori (23:06.259)
especially not after

Wendy (23:10.178)
Well, listen, I just...

Lori (23:10.748)
Well, no.

Kelli (23:12.387)
I mean, but body count is a clear description of somebody you've had sex with. How many people you've had sex with.

Wendy (23:16.238)
Yeah.

Lori (23:16.272)
Well, especially after the comment was made on Salt Lake.

Wendy (23:23.895)
yeah, about the high body count hair? I mean, you can't, right? You can't stay. You just can't.

Lori (23:25.34)
I mean, where you going? Come on.

Kelli (23:25.829)
Oh yeah, I get it.

Kelli (23:30.701)
I don't know why, but when you talk about hair, it's hysterical to me, body high body count here. But I don't like if somebody says somebody has a high body count.

Wendy (23:36.877)
It is hysterical.

No, no, that was a horrible thing that Andy said. And nobody even recognized it. Like nobody, like nobody even recognized it. And then he said, Erica suggested you might've peaked after he names all the people. And Gorsil said, you know, maybe I have.

Kelli (23:42.041)
That was a terrible thing for him to say.

No, they didn't.

Kelli (23:56.613)
That was not nice to say,

Wendy (24:02.186)
And then he said, do you have any more recent love affairs to share? And she said, no, well, even if she did, you think at this point, she's going to share them after you just said this?

Kelli (24:07.781)
She would never, exactly, she would never, why would she? She'd be a fool.

Wendy (24:13.134)
was like,

Wendy (24:17.422)
So then Andy goes on and says to Kyle, it was really a big moment when you removed wife from your Instagram title. Well, he wants to make it a big thing. And he asked, no, I don't think it is. He asked if anyone has slid into her DMs and she said, yeah, she's gotten a couple, know, men and women that have slid into her DMs. And then asks the ladies who here is the most likely to get remarried. And they all agree, Kyle.

Kelli (24:24.707)
Was it?

Exactly. It's really not.

Wendy (24:47.602)
And know, Kyle says she likes being married. So I guess she's not, you know, opposed to that. Then Andy, that's okay.

Lori (24:54.02)
Now, I love, sorry, I loved when they were talking about dating and Jennifer Tilly says that she only slept with strange, squishy comedians. Come on, come on.

Kelli (25:13.039)
That is hysterical. Squishy.

Lori (25:13.05)
She's the best. I'm sorry, but she is the... Yeah, I love it. I just had to bring that up.

Wendy (25:14.838)
Yeah. Yeah, she is good. That's good. Then Andy congratulates Erica for finishing another run in Chicago. And Erica admits it felt good. she feels like she had unfinished business because COVID happened and her last run was cut short. And she also admits that

Kelli (25:35.097)
Yeah.

Yeah, she got cut short.

Wendy (25:43.488)
with everything she went through after that, there were some days that she didn't even know if she could make it through the day with, you know, after everything with Tom, like even get out of bed. So not only did she make it through the day, but she got her ass back to Broadway and, you know, got her job back as Roxy. And that's impressive.

Kelli (25:57.583)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (26:02.415)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (26:02.556)
Now something you didn't mention, during their break, Sutton and Garcelle go back to Garcelle's room and Sutton says to her, you said you're not answering any more questions. She says this to Garcelle. And then you hear Garcelle say, I can't stand them all. And then Sutton says, they hate me.

Your friend was talking about something that's going on with her. Like why you got it? Why do you got to bring it back to you?

Kelli (26:33.614)
Yeah.

with her.

Wendy (26:40.726)
Right. Right. And that's what she kept doing.

Kelli (26:41.53)
Yeah.

That's just her. That's the kind of friend she is.

Wendy (26:48.3)
Yeah, it is crazy. Then Andy says to Erica, it was wild to see your son testify in the ASAP Rocky trial. And she says she found out the night before. She said that she sees her son all the time now. And that's one of the good things that came out of her, you know, separation from Tom is they weren't that close, I guess, while she was with Tom. But since then,

Kelli (27:14.522)
Bye.

Wendy (27:15.638)
I mean, it could be that one, he didn't want to be a part of that. You know, we've seen the way that Tom talked to her. You know, you don't want to see that. Right? And maybe he felt like, you know, his mom had everything that she needed that, you know, she didn't need him. So,

Kelli (27:22.714)
Yeah.

Kelli (27:26.447)
Yeah.

Lori (27:35.248)
Now, did you see when Erica was doing all that talking about herself, Garcelle's face?

Kelli (27:42.745)
I did, I have that in my notes too.

Lori (27:44.614)
She was super pissed at Eric. She was just looked super pissed at Erica. Just super pissed. was like,

Wendy (27:45.036)
What, I missed it. What was her face?

Kelli (27:47.567)
She did not look happy.

Wendy (27:56.504)
But why? She was only talking about what was going on.

Kelli (27:56.74)
Yes.

Lori (27:58.446)
I don't know what I'm saying.

Kelli (27:59.449)
don't even think it had anything to do with Erica or what Erica was saying. think it was just, at this point, Garcelle was like, I'm really done. Like, I am 100 % checked out of this job. She just looked extremely unhappy sitting there. And I don't think it had anything to do with Erica, but yeah, I have that down.

Lori (28:07.11)
So done.

Wendy (28:12.994)
done.

Yeah, that's interesting.

Lori (28:23.868)
And know, I watch it on the Peacock and they have a, I don't know if they had this on the channel that you watched it on, but Peacock had a commercial with Lisa Barlow for Clorox wipes. And it said, clean feels better than glam was her tagline in the commercial. But I didn't know if, cause sometimes Peacock has stuff that, you know, the other channels don't, but I was just like, look at this.

Wendy (28:36.716)
Yes. There's so many Housewives commercials.

Kelli (28:51.087)
Yeah.

Wendy (28:53.07)
Yeah, I've noticed that there's so many housewife commercials right now. And it's crazy to me. And I think that honestly, Lisa Barlow is the worst commercial actress I've ever seen. It's so phony. It's just so phony. It really is. It really is.

Kelli (28:58.341)
Yeah.

Lori (29:05.212)
please, not good. So phony baloney.

Kelli (29:05.732)
She's definitely the worst commercial actress.

Kelli (29:11.095)
It's awful. It's awful.

Lori (29:13.936)
It is.

Mm.

Wendy (29:18.926)
Andy says to Eric, was great that your therapist was able to teach you about empathy and then tell you that you did not have pizza party behavior. That was funny. She does.

Lori (29:27.302)
She does have a good therapist.

Kelli (29:29.893)
She's from something that woman. What was she on?

Lori (29:33.859)
I don't know.

Wendy (29:35.508)
She was on something and yeah.

Kelli (29:36.869)
She was on something else. She's not Dr. V from Real Housewives of New Jersey, but she was on something else. Some other reality TV show.

Wendy (29:46.422)
Yes, I cannot remember which one it was, but yes, she's definitely been on reality TV as a therapist.

Kelli (29:51.543)
Maybe with the, I feel like she was with Dr. Drew on something. Like maybe like marriage bootcamp or something like that.

Wendy (30:00.014)
It could be. I honestly, I don't remember what, I heard her, I think she might've been on Heather McDonald's podcast too. And she was talking about like other things that she's done.

Kelli (30:10.158)
Yeah.

Lori (30:11.29)
I mean, because Erica still has a really bad nasty streak, but there is some definite improvement. that is not, I don't think that Erica was an easy person to guide along that path. So I just give kudos to her therapist.

Kelli (30:18.063)
growth. Yeah.

Wendy (30:28.798)
definitely. Definitely. I totally agree. Then Andy asks Erica why she hasn't divorced Tom yet, which again, I thought that was a very odd question. She said, listen, I don't really have an answer for you. My divorce attorney reached out to me the other day and said we need to get on this. She said, listen, at the time that was the least of my problems. And she's right.

Kelli (30:28.899)
Yeah.

Kelli (30:49.861)
Well, if he's not of right mind...

Wendy (30:52.974)
Well, she said that too. She's like, you know, what kind of divorce is it if, you know,

Lori (30:53.23)
Right. Yeah.

Kelli (30:57.829)
He doesn't even know what's going on. And you know, we did start seeing him treating her poorly. Like we really did start seeing him talk to her, not nice. And that is a clear sign of Alzheimer's or dementia when people just start getting nasty. I mean, maybe it's legit.

Wendy (30:59.607)
Right.

Wendy (31:06.048)
No,

Lori (31:14.084)
Yes, yes. They can get very nasty. depends on what part of the brain is affected by the Alzheimer's because there's people who can have Alzheimer's and stay very sweet. But if it affects a certain area of the brain, then you can see huge personality change.

Wendy (31:16.716)
Yes.

Kelli (31:28.141)
Yes.

Wendy (31:35.678)
And Andy asked her if she thought of visiting him and she's like, I know this is going to sound cold, but I thought of visiting him after he passes away. I actually, when she explained it, I didn't think it sounded cool. She's like, I'll never get the answers I want. And you know what? He's not the same person. Right.

Lori (31:48.634)
And he's not the same person, especially if he really does have that diagnosis, then he's not the same person.

Kelli (31:50.479)
He's not the same person.

Kelli (31:55.555)
And wouldn't even know she, you know, he wouldn't even know who she was anyway. So why do you want to put yourself through that? Why do you want to put yourself through that?

Lori (31:58.682)
Right. Or you think she was somebody else. Right.

Wendy (31:58.742)
Right, right.

Lori (32:03.706)
Right. Because I'm sure at this point she's already come to the conclusion that the person that she thought she married wasn't any longer. So why carry that any further to be like a total mindfuck? Like not only did I marry this person and they turned out to be somebody else, now they like don't even know who they are. They don't know who I am. It's just, it's a weird, Alzheimer's is an odd, it's a hard

Wendy (32:14.008)
Right.

Lori (32:33.798)
thing to deal with, especially if you're dealing with a family member or a spouse. It's a lot.

Wendy (32:41.28)
It is a lot and Erica is another one who gets a lot of grief online. A lot of people are still hating on her about the survivors and the victims. And listen, I... She had a tough time. I don't think that those are her victims. Those are her husband's victims. Yes, when she was in the midst of it, she did come across as cold and curt, but she was scared. She was afraid.

Kelli (32:48.655)
The victims,

Kelli (33:07.397)
She was scared and yeah.

Wendy (33:08.78)
She was afraid to say anything. She can't admit anything in her mind. She's used to being married to an attorney who says, can't apologize or show empathy. That's showing guilt. And this was all in litigation at this point. So the people that give her a hard time about that, I don't know. I don't think she deserves a hard time about that. I really don't. I don't know that...

Lori (33:19.696)
Right.

Wendy (33:36.898)
people judging her about how she reacted to that situation that she was in. How would they react? mean, come on. That's it. Right.

Kelli (33:42.095)
Right.

Lori (33:42.778)
And you don't know how you're to relax until you're in it, you know?

Wendy (33:49.582)
Then they go on break and they come back from break and Jennifer is talking about the corn dogs that she had on break.

Lori (33:55.803)
lover.

Kelli (33:56.748)
Hehehehehe

Lori (33:58.406)
We ran out to the food truck and got the corn dog. I love it.

Wendy (34:00.142)
Then Andy says, know, a weekend in Sutton's hometown gave us, you know, a lot of memories and interactions with her mother Reba and they kind of run like all the clips, you know, the tender moments about, you know, her and her mom. And then Andy said,

you know, how do you feel about this whole trip after they run all these? And she's like, you know, her feelings for her mother, you know, have changed a little bit after that because one, she found out afterwards, you know, her mom's partner had passed and that she was also depressed, her mom, right? She admitted that to her that she was taking medication after this whole thing happened. And after Sutton was down there,

and that she's also admitting that she's had a lot of pent up resentment towards her mom for all these years because she kind of blamed her mom because her mom was there the day that her father killed himself. that, knew he was struggling, knew he, you know.

Kelli (35:03.843)
and knew there was a gun in the house and knew he was struggling.

Lori (35:05.436)
Mm-hmm. Right.

Kelli (35:09.669)
I'm sure it's very common though, especially in the South, for them to have a gun in the house, right? I mean, up here now it's getting more more common, but I get it.

Lori (35:17.126)
yeah, most definitely.

Wendy (35:17.634)
yeah, yeah, yeah, Yes.

Wendy (35:25.976)
So I think that that, listen, I think that she definitely needs more healing. I think she needs to spend more time with Reba. I think she needs to dive into some therapy and move forward with it. Andy said, your brave friend, Garcelle, sitting with your mom saying that my friend needs to hear it, and said, I warned her and Garcelle said nothing but kind things. She said she was really sweet.

You know, and again, that's not even having ourselves back like Garcelle was there.

Kelli (35:57.817)
Right, not even saying like I appreciated her doing that.

Wendy (36:01.0)
Exactly. Exactly.

And then a Twitter user said, of course, Kyle would get along with Sutton's mom. She grew up with Big Cathy. Did you see any similarities between Sutton's mom and Big Cathy? And Kyle and Cathy are like, no. They both jumped in. And that is a nasty comment to make.

Kelli (36:23.023)
I think that was a nasty comment and I don't think, I think Big Cathy definitely had her issues. But I don't think they're the same issues as Reba.

Wendy (36:29.259)
Right.

Wendy (36:34.284)
No, but still like I of all no and for for Andy to read that one to read that Twitter. Yes.

Kelli (36:36.409)
That was not a nice comment to make though.

Lori (36:39.384)
But nor, well that's what I was gonna say, neither was it nice for him to read it, but hence, a TV show, stir the pot, make the problems, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Kelli (36:45.146)
Sure.

Wendy (36:46.573)
Right.

Kelli (36:49.133)
Yep. Yep.

Wendy (36:49.4)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (36:53.902)
Then he asked Erica, what about you? Like, did you see any similarities? And Erica was like, yeah, like I see my grandma in Reba and you know, they're the real steel magnolias. So of course, you know, Erica could relate to that. And I honestly think like, I think it would do Erica and Sutton good to go to Augusta together. I think that would be good for them.

Kelli (37:00.537)
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (37:17.23)
And Garcelle also brings up that she didn't have closure with her dad. So that was one of the reasons that she was really wanted Sutton to, you know, to talk to her mom. Right. While her mom is still here, before it's too late.

Lori (37:27.334)
to have that with their mom,

Lori (37:32.518)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (37:36.654)
Andy asked Jennifer what she learned about her friend from watching her. And Jennifer really didn't say anything. She just said it's important for her to be open about these situations. I don't know what that means. I think that Jennifer just didn't want to, you know. Yeah, yeah.

Lori (37:53.99)
Get involved. Smart woman.

Kelli (37:57.903)
Yeah.

Wendy (37:59.694)
Sutton then says there's a lot she needs to work out in her brain. Sorry, I have an itch on the back of my arm.

Lori (38:08.55)
Go ahead, girl. Do what you gotta do. What you gotta do?

Wendy (38:09.646)
And she thinks forgiving her dad is important, that that's one of the things that she needs to do. And hopefully it will help her be a better person and that she'll be a better friend and that she can do better herself. That's what she's been saying the whole reunion. Like she's admitted she's done wrong. She wants to be better. She wants to do better.

Kelli (38:11.173)
Exactly.

Wendy (38:40.015)
yeah, it really was a lot of sudden.

Kelli (38:40.293)
Too much Sutton though, too much Sutton this reunion. I just...

Lori (38:46.191)
It was.

Wendy (38:48.182)
I totally agree. I totally agree.

Kelli (38:48.645)
I just don't find her interesting at all. And it was so much of her.

Wendy (38:54.175)
Another thing I want, know, then Andy takes a moment to acknowledge Teddy Mellencamp and she, I want everyone to realize Teddy was in the hospital while they were filming this. Kyle and Teddy are best friends. Like.

Kelli (38:58.415)
Yeah.

Kelli (39:08.537)
Yeah, it explains why she, cause she, I mean, she was on the verge of crying the whole time, Kyle. And that does, that is, has to be why. Yeah.

Wendy (39:14.37)
Yeah, and like that's a, yeah, that's a lot. Can you imagine? I mean, doing this, sitting on that stage for nine hours, having to talk about Mo, having to talk about Morgan, having to talk about Dorrie, like it's a lot. And she did it. You know what? She did it.

Kelli (39:23.074)
No.

Kelli (39:34.02)
Yeah.

Lori (39:36.55)
She did. She did a lot of word salad though. She's a good word salad girl. She's word salad girl. She's a word salad. Yeah. She was tossing it. She was tossing the salad.

Kelli (39:36.933)
Dorit said she's gonna wait.

Wendy (39:40.514)
Well...

Kelli (39:40.709)
We'll get there, but she did a lot of word salad. She always does. Yeah, and there's no excuse for that. Yeah. But Dorit says she's gonna wait until Teddy isn't in the thick of it to reach out to her. But I don't agree with that. I think Dorit should have just reached out to her at that point. I understand she's in the hospital and it's a battle and she doesn't know what's gonna happen. That's the time.

Wendy (39:45.591)
Yeah.

Wendy (39:50.307)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (40:02.091)
I agree. Yeah.

Kelli (40:09.173)
All you have to say is, I'm thinking of you, I'm praying for you. That's all you have to say. Now's the time to do it. Don't wait until she's out of the thick of it because this is a long journey.

Wendy (40:14.518)
Right. Right.

Wendy (40:23.426)
Yeah. I mean, you know, Kyle said that Erica, know, FaceTimed with her and Sutton put her in her prayer group and Dorit was the one out there like, listen, they weren't that close to, mean, Teddy and Dorit never really got along, but you're right. She should have reached out. And I think that was just her excuse to not look like the asshole that she was. Because that was asshole behavior.

Kelli (40:37.474)
No!

Kelli (40:45.477)
Absolutely. Absolutely.

Wendy (40:51.286)
Then Andy brings up the whole paparazzi photo with Maurizio in Greece and Kyle drops her crystal again.

So what does it mean when you drop your crystal?

Kelli (41:05.285)
I think we looked it up with Cousin Gina, didn't we? Cousin Gina sent it to us.

Wendy (41:09.058)
Yeah.

Lori (41:11.836)
Listen, but again, I think that's part of production. Come on.

Wendy (41:17.591)
no, I know the crystal is real. I think she brought the crystal.

Kelli (41:18.565)
I thought it was too, just because of their responses. They were like, Kyle, like somebody was like, Kyle, like, yeah, like.

Wendy (41:29.41)
I think it was Dorie. she was like... It's like a sign. Like it's a sign when that happens.

Lori (41:33.402)
I don't know.

Kelli (41:37.443)
Yeah, I don't, why is it when you Google something now, everything, says AI, AI results. Everything is AI results. It's so annoying.

Lori (41:37.66)
I don't know. Seems staged to me.

Lori (41:43.228)
Because it's more AI results.

Wendy (41:45.866)
I know. I know it's annoying, right?

So after she drops her crystal, they show you all the scenes throughout the season with Kyle and her and Mo. And then Andy asks, you know, where are you with the separation? And she said like, I still haven't filed yet. She said, you know, it's hard. We're very close. We talk every day. We love each other. I feel sad. It's been 30 years. Andy asked Kathy if she would like for them to see them reconcile. And Kathy says, yes.

Kelli (42:19.074)
little surprising wasn't it?

Wendy (42:20.722)
I was a little surprised, but, Andy said, why? And she's like, well, I don't really like change. And Kyle said that she does have a hard time with this. And you could see that, you know.

Kelli (42:28.121)
I'm with you, Kathy. I don't like change either.

Wendy (42:30.72)
And then Sutton chimes in that she wants to see her and Christian reconcile and she's never even met Christian. Sutton's ex. Exactly.

Kelli (42:38.489)
Way to make it about yourself again, son. God, it's like sitting there with Eric.

Lori (42:41.052)
Way to go.

Kelli (42:45.987)
That was mean. just tease. I just tease Eric all the time because no matter what we're talking about, he'll somehow. Yeah, always.

Wendy (42:46.894)
No, but-

Wendy (42:52.034)
Bring it back around. And then Andy says, the viewers have a lot of questions about how she handles the separation. Someone said, the way you handle this is an example of how you think that you are the exception to the situation. And Kyle's answer was, fuck off. Which I kind of liked. I really did. The comment was how she's handling the separation. Someone said, the way you handle this is an example of how you think you are the exception to situations. So her not handling it,

Kelli (43:08.328)
Wait, what was the comment?

Wendy (43:22.664)
is her being the exception to a situation. Like they want her to do something different.

Kelli (43:28.601)
Like she's the only one who's ever been separated from her husband before. I don't think, I know, I don't think that's what it is. She, I think, listen, Andy says, you mourning your old life? Obviously she's mourning her old life. Why she won't just fucking admit it is mind boggling.

Wendy (43:31.446)
and not files. Again.

Wendy (43:46.136)
Well, she did say she was mourning her old life. She did say. No, she did.

Kelli (43:48.753)
I don't think she admit it. I don't think she did, Wendy. I swear, I don't think she did, because I have her written down. But whether she did or not, she's clearly mourning her old life. And we've talked about this. We know people who have gotten divorced. They don't miss the partner. They miss their family unit. She misses her family unit. Anybody would. She had a beautiful life. She still does, and she still will. But you you have to, you're closing that...

Lori (43:50.076)
No, I don't think she did.

Lori (43:54.492)
I don't think so.

Wendy (44:08.749)
Right.

Lori (44:15.11)
which is different.

Wendy (44:16.888)
It's different.

Kelli (44:17.633)
Yeah, it's different and that's very sad.

Wendy (44:21.174)
No, it's definitely sad because he does say like last year you seemed angry with Maurizio and this year you seem sad. Do you any regrets about separating? And she said, I'm upset for allow that both of us allowed it to get to this point, but she's not, know, she's regrets how it was handled, but she's not regretting that she separated. Like she's not mad. She's not sad.

She's not jealous. I mean, these are all words that she said. You know, she said, we got married very young. He never got to go out and do his thing.

Kelli (44:52.515)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (44:59.375)
She keeps bringing up women and referring to them as being snakes, so.

Lori (45:01.19)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Wendy (45:03.222)
Well, yes, because she also says, mean, she outright says that, you know, prior to him moving out, she had access to all of his messages. So she knew exactly what was going on. And, you know, like she said, she just, you know, felt that he wasn't there for her. She was disappointed in something specific that she saw, or maybe it was enough is enough, like you've said from the very beginning.

And then when she saw those videos, it wasn't that she was jealous, you know, the pictures, it was that it was just jarring. Like that's the last thing you expect to see all over social media and every place you look is your husband of 30 years. Even though if you know what's going on, you don't know specifically what's going on, you don't expect to see it plastered everywhere.

Kelli (45:56.901)
Well, no, and.

Lori (45:56.932)
Right. Seeing it is different than knowing it. Once you see it, you can't unsee it.

Wendy (46:00.63)
Yes.

Yeah.

Kelli (46:04.077)
Right, and Andy brings up that he was surprised how she acted about the cheating insinuation by Sutton because at the last reunion, she basically alluded to the fact that there was infidelity, right? And we've said this. And she basically says that it was to protect her daughters, which I believe, it's very clear what has gone on, but whatever. So she's trying to protect her daughters.

Wendy (46:14.732)
Right.

It was trust issues. Right.

Wendy (46:28.078)
Right.

Kelli (46:33.493)
Maybe Mo should be a little concerned about that and not posting pictures of him going down a ski slope with naked women. I mean, he posted that, he took the picture and posted that picture.

Lori (46:39.494)
There you go.

Wendy (46:40.931)
Yeah.

Yes, he did. He absolutely did. And then that woman was on Watch What Happens Live a few weeks ago.

Lori (46:45.564)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Kelli (46:50.245)
The woman from the ski slope?

Wendy (46:51.712)
Yes. yeah, she's a singer. Yeah, yeah, and supposedly they're still in touch. Like they still text each other or whatever they do, but yes.

Kelli (46:53.989)
I didn't know that.

Kelli (46:57.933)
my god.

Kelli (47:07.139)
Yeah, like he clearly is not worrying about protecting his daughters. I know he's a good father, he's a great provider, but it does feel like maybe he is going through some like midlife crisis or something. Right?

Lori (47:18.902)
most definitely. Come on. Yes. Yes and yes and yes.

Wendy (47:22.189)
Yeah.

Kelli (47:23.693)
And she's just left there to, you know, she's just left there to deal with everything.

Lori (47:28.262)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (47:28.526)
And listen, she says she doesn't want to speak bad about him and she won't. She doesn't say anything bad about him. Even that. Like she doesn't want to bad about the father of her daughters. I think that that deserves... Yes, I do too. I think it's admirable. I think it's very admirable.

Kelli (47:36.503)
I know, she's really not.

Lori (47:43.74)
I give her lot of credit for that.

Kelli (47:45.497)
I give her a lot of credit. She's very strong, because I would have been blasting him by now. Very admirable. Yeah, I would have been blasting him by now.

Lori (47:51.386)
Yeah, I certainly would have not have been as nice. Nope.

Kelli (47:54.882)
No. No.

Wendy (47:56.589)
Yeah.

Kelli (48:00.495)
my God, Cathy laughing uncontrollably when Kyle was talking about her sexuality to the point she had to bite on her finger to get herself to stop.

Wendy (48:03.459)
my God. That was so.

Lori (48:05.532)
I think that was hysterical. Mm-hmm. Was that like a nervous giggle? Like, what was that?

Wendy (48:09.612)
That was so funny.

Kelli (48:13.679)
For sure, but Kyle's like, just let her get it out of her system. Let her get it out of her system.

Wendy (48:14.774)
It's definitely a nervous. Yeah, she's like, just let it get out. Just let her get it out.

Kelli (48:21.135)
is so funny though.

Wendy (48:23.382)
And is that when, yeah, that's when Cathy's like, yeah, you know, I told Paris and Nikki and Andy's like, you told Paris and Nikki that you're a lesbian?

Lori (48:33.86)
You might be lesbian, right?

Kelli (48:34.085)
See, I didn't take it that way.

Wendy (48:36.643)
that's what Andy said. took it right. No, she didn't mean it that way.

Kelli (48:39.237)
Great, okay.

Yes, okay, Andy made it sound like that.

Lori (48:44.442)
He was being shady. Yeah, he was being shady.

Wendy (48:45.974)
He was being shady. He was being shady. Yes. She meant it like I told Paris and Nikki, because it was all over social, it was all over everywhere. And they're like, Mom, it's 2025 or, you know, like, who cares? Right. And, you know, then she talks about, know, Kyle talks about how when she did tell her daughters, you know, Portia, you know, they, you know, she said she wasn't sure. She still didn't say she just said, I'm not sure.

Kelli (48:56.015)
Yeah, like who cares, yeah.

Kelli (49:13.349)
I don't know if it's a crush. I don't know what this is Thank God like finally

Wendy (49:15.712)
I don't, right, I've never had this feeling. I've never had this feeling before. And her daughter, Portia, got up and hugged her and said, mom, there's nothing you could say that would make us not love you. Like, we'll always love you and we'll always be here for you. And, know, obviously she's crying and then Andy's like, that's exactly what my parents said when I came out. And she's like, well, I'm not coming out.

Kelli (49:36.633)
Yeah, but that was nice that he said that. His parents do seem amazing, Andes.

Wendy (49:41.358)
Yeah, yeah. So, listen.

Kelli (49:46.189)
Listen, that's more than Kyle has ever said about the subject. So thank God. I'm happy to hear it.

Wendy (49:53.783)
Yeah.

Wendy (49:57.278)
I'm, listen, I would be happy if we never have to speak about it again. Like, really? You know? She said...

Kelli (50:01.921)
Agreed.

Lori (50:02.799)
Agreed.

Lori (50:07.45)
And what was your

Kelli (50:07.631)
Just come back next year with Morgan living in your bedroom with you.

Lori (50:11.526)
Well, like Heather McDonald's post where she said she predicts that what's going to happen is, because Kyle was supposedly doing a documentary on Morgan and that's what started the whole thing. So Heather McDonald was like, okay, I have a prediction that it's going to next season, the documentary is going to come out and then that's when Kyle's going to come out and say, yeah.

Kelli (50:36.121)
Yes.

Wendy (50:37.678)
Listen, mean, she's not dumb, Kyle.

Kelli (50:40.261)
She's not dumb, but I'm glad she said what she said on the reunion because it's more than she's ever said about it. And I think that that's what Garcelle's thing always was. Even when Sutton said the thing about infidelity and Garcelle was like, is something nobody talks about. So there's clearly things that have gone on in Kyle's life that she hasn't been honest about on the show.

Lori (50:40.772)
Yeah, all done.

Lori (50:46.672)
Right.

Wendy (50:47.032)
Yeah.

Lori (50:59.931)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (51:09.122)
Yeah, but they all do it. mean, even PK and Jorri. Like they, you know, when they finally separated, everyone already knew. They all said that we all knew what PK was doing. It wasn't a surprise to anybody. The only one that was a surprise.

Kelli (51:11.365)
Absolutely.

Kelli (51:20.449)
Right, absolutely. mean, every franchise, we don't even know, we don't know any truth about Meredith Marks. I am a firm believer everything she puts out on that show is fake news. So you're right, they all do it. But I think that this is what Garcelle struggled with all season. Like all these things about Kyle that aren't being talked about and then she tries to talk about it and now she's a villain for talking about it.

But I'm glad Kyle said what she said on the reunion and what Lori just said is probably what's going to happen and good, good for her. She's smart.

Wendy (51:56.406)
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Then we go to the final thoughts and the most unexpected surprise, he goes to Jennifer first and she said how much footage they shoot and how much they actually use.

Kelli (52:13.559)
that was interesting, wasn't it?

Lori (52:15.132)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (52:15.214)
Yes. Well, I did see some photos from a dinner that they did on vacation and Jennifer had this beautiful flamingo dress on and we never saw that scene. I was like, oh, I would have loved to see that dinner, but I guess there wasn't enough fighting at that dinner. So it never...

Lori (52:26.94)
Aww, yeah.

Yes.

Kelli (52:31.769)
Right. God forbid they show us like a nice evening out with all of them.

Wendy (52:36.65)
Right. There wasn't enough drama, so we didn't get to see it. Kathy said nothing surprises her. She had a great time. She loves when she travels. She just like... Wait, are we on a show? Are we filming this? Erica says she doesn't have a surprise, but I she did say something and I don't remember what she said.

Kelli (52:47.823)
these like I don't even know where I am half the time exactly is that is that camera running

Kelli (53:05.925)
I was a little bit checked out at this point, I'm not gonna lie. I do remember Sutton's response, but I don't remember anybody. I remember what Jennifer Tilly said and what Sutton said.

Lori (53:05.998)
I don't really agree there. Yep. Yep. Yep.

Wendy (53:14.67)
All right. said I was surprised by everything. There wasn't a damn thing that I wasn't surprised about, she said. Maybe the depth of emotion. Jareed said that she found a friend for life. I think it's just been so wonderful getting to know Bo's and have her in my life. I feel very blessed.

Lori (53:33.104)
Did you see Garcelle's face?

Kelli (53:35.801)
yeah.

Wendy (53:35.852)
Yes, I did. And then that's when Garcelle said surprised in a good way about seeing more of Sutton and her mom was revealing a lot of, was revealing in lot of ways. And then Sutton said, I'm most surprised about this season, Eric and I got along so well. Kyle said she was most surprised by her behavior that she really didn't recognize herself. I mean, especially watching herself walk out of Bose's spa party.

Kelli (54:03.845)
Star Day.

Wendy (54:04.876)
But now sitting at the reunion, now she feels strong. So I was glad to see that.

Lori (54:11.324)
I saw a thing that there's a show that I really like on Netflix. It's called The Lincoln Lawyer. It's based off of a book series. And Carl Richards is going to be on it. Or season four, yep.

Kelli (54:11.833)
I forgot that that's when, sorry.

Wendy (54:25.1)
Yes.

Yes. Yes.

Kelli (54:28.299)
really? I've seen advertisements for that and I've never watched it and I always love like law shows so I might have to check that out. And it's on Netflix?

Lori (54:33.242)
it's so good. you'd love it. You'd love it. You'd love it. Yeah. So that was, yeah, that's interesting that she's going to be on that show.

Wendy (54:43.372)
Yeah, she said that's what her passion is. She loves acting and she wants to get back to it. So I hope that she does. I mean, I hope she does get back to it.

Kelli (54:49.005)
Yeah. She should just become like a lifetime movie person like Denise Richards. Just do the lifetime stuff. It's gotta be easy. I'm sure they shoot it right there. Well, I guess the Christmas stuff's on location, but whatever.

Lori (54:54.897)
There you go.

Wendy (54:54.904)
There you go.

Wendy (55:00.248)
Yeah.

Yeah. Then Andy wants to finish off with a toast and he has Jennifer Tilly toast, the watermelon drink that Dorit had at her party. And her toast is there are all kinds of ships. There's gold ships, there's silver ships, and there's Louis Vuitton ships, but the best ships of the world are friendships.

Kelli (55:21.593)
You know, that was very reminiscent of a toast that Shep gave on Southern Charms reunion one time. I'm sure Jennifer Tilly did not see that. I'm not saying that that's why she said it, but.

Wendy (55:26.67)
Yes, I do remember that actually.

No, no, it's it seemed like he put her on the spot to be quite honest with you Right the fact that she came up with anything Yeah, a true actress always improv, right?

Kelli (55:35.873)
He totally put her on the spot and she was like, I don't know. So she was quick on her feet with that.

Lori (55:36.976)
Yeah, I think so.

Kelli (55:44.418)
Mm-hmm.

And then that, so this is when Garcelle leaves, right? And they go.

Wendy (55:50.604)
Yeah, they all cheers. She has the drink and then Andy says, all right, guess we're going to go get our cast photo and then Garsel's I'm out. That's it. Garsel says I'm out.

Kelli (55:59.479)
And what does Sutton do? She just stands there and talks about her basically. Yeah, she's very unhappy. just don't understand. But doesn't go to see her. Doesn't walk out and say, me just go try to talk to her. Doesn't do it.

Wendy (56:02.892)
Right, she doesn't do anything. Yeah.

Wendy (56:08.643)
Yep.

Lori (56:17.456)
Nope. And then when she does finally get to her room, all surprised that she left and then is like wondering about her supper.

Wendy (56:18.808)
No.

Wendy (56:28.482)
Yeah. Yeah. We're supposed to have supper. And who says supper? Is that a southern thing, supper? Yeah. mean Sutton. No. It's all about Sutton.

Kelli (56:29.197)
Yeah, I thought we were going for supper. Fuck you, Sutton. Yeah, I'm sorry. It must be a Southern thing. Yeah.

Lori (56:36.793)
I think it's time we say dinner.

Kelli (56:44.909)
Yeah, for sure. And I don't blame Garcelle one bit.

Wendy (56:49.356)
I don't either. I don't either.

We don't know anything about the next season. They haven't announced it. are definitely looking for people. We heard a rumor. Well, it came from that person. Debbie Metinopoulos, she was on The View, that they are talking in talks to be honest. And there was one other person too, wasn't there?

Kelli (57:08.943)
Debbie Matanopoulos.

Kelli (57:19.695)
I only heard about her.

Lori (57:21.232)
No idea.

Wendy (57:21.326)
Maybe it was only her.

Kelli (57:23.501)
just remember when she was on the view and she wasn't on that long.

Wendy (57:26.698)
No. No, they did not like her.

Kelli (57:30.351)
They ate her alive, Star Jones and Joy Behar. They were not nice to her at all.

Lori (57:36.06)
Well that's not a nice show.

Wendy (57:36.224)
No. No, it's not. It's not a nice show.

Kelli (57:38.373)
No, not at all. Once Meredith Vieira left, she's the only one who ever gave that show any credibility, in my opinion. Once she left, I checked out. But I just remember when Debbie Matanopoulos was on it, Saturday Night Live went crazy with skits with her. And they really weren't nice. They were kind of funny, but they really weren't nice. Like they just made her look so stupid.

Lori (57:40.656)
Not.

Lori (57:50.054)
That was it.

Kelli (58:07.695)
Which wasn't nice, because she's clearly not.

Wendy (58:07.722)
Yeah, that's no, no, she's not stupid.

Alright, so we'll have to wait and see what happens with Beverly Hills.

Kelli (58:16.591)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (58:17.82)
Yep.

Wendy (58:20.16)
I guess until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Please give us five star reviews and subscribe. Bye.

Kelli (58:25.978)
Bye.