RHOBH-Reality Check: The Real Housewives Reunion Part 2

RHOBH-Reality Check: The Real Housewives Reunion Part 2

Summary

In this episode, the hosts discuss the latest reunion of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, focusing on the dynamics between the characters, the controversies that arose, and the public's perception of the events. They delve into Kathy Hilton's quirky personality and her interactions with other cast members, while also reflecting on the impact of celebrity guests on the show. The conversation highlights the complexities of relationships within the reality TV landscape and the challenges of navigating public scrutiny. In this conversation, the hosts delve into various themes surrounding celebrity culture, particularly focusing on aging, friendship dynamics, accountability in relationships, and financial troubles. They discuss the appearance of celebrities, the complexities of friendships within the reality TV context, and the implications of financial decisions, particularly in relation to gambling and bankruptcy. The conversation also touches on the anticipation of future drama in the reality show landscape, particularly in Beverly Hills.

Takeaways

• The reunion was perceived as boring by some viewers.
• Kathy Hilton's unique personality adds humor to the show.
• Character dynamics are crucial in understanding the conflicts.
• Public perception can greatly influence reality TV narratives.
• The hosts express fatigue over recurring controversies.
• Celebrity guests bring a fresh perspective to the discussions.
• Kathy's quirky moments often steal the spotlight.
• The importance of trust and loyalty among cast members is emphasized.
• The hosts critique the editing and production choices of the show.
• Reality TV often blurs the lines between personal and public life. Maurizio's appearance has noticeably changed over time.
• Cathy's perspective on aging and looks is insightful.
• Friendship dynamics can be complicated in reality TV.
• Sutton's behavior raises questions about accountability.
• The question about Kim shouldn't have been asked.
• Sutton's friendship ceremony was seen as disingenuous.
• PK's financial issues are deeply intertwined with his lifestyle.
• Dorit's awareness of PK's financial situation is questionable.
• Gambling can lead to significant financial problems.
• The conversation anticipates future drama in Beverly Hills.

Transcript

Wendy (00:01.058)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever. I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:03.821)
I'm Kelly.

Lori (00:04.536)
And I'm Lori.

Wendy (00:06.53)
How was your week?

Lori (00:09.487)
good pretty good lots of rain here still raining in Jersey

Kelli (00:13.454)
Yeah, other than the weather, great.

Wendy (00:13.454)
Still raining. Yeah, still wet. Still wet and muddy. We are talking about Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, Season 14, Reunion Part 2. Yeah.

Lori (00:26.389)
Ugh. I can't say.

Kelli (00:29.36)
I held off watching it because I kept seeing online people were like, it's so boring. And it really was very boring.

Wendy (00:38.686)
Yeah, we start. Well, I think we need three to find out what happens and that Gorsel is walking off.

Lori (00:39.031)
No need for three. No need for three.

Kelli (00:41.677)
I agree.

Kelli (00:45.762)
You know what? If you'll notice, she walks off when they go to take the group picture. So she doesn't walk off in the middle of the reunion.

Lori (00:45.859)
Yeah, but it could have been done in two.

Wendy (00:53.358)
I did see that part that it walks when she walks up at the toast, but I feel like she walked off cursing at them too.

Lori (00:55.523)
Yeah, at the toast.

Kelli (00:57.41)
Exactly.

Kelli (01:03.586)
She said like, I don't want to answer any more questions or yeah, like these fucking bitches or something like that, right?

Wendy (01:10.292)
Yeah, but we didn't see that part yet, I don't think. So, I don't know, we're gonna have to wait and see.

Kelli (01:13.602)
No. No.

Lori (01:14.596)
Mm-mm.

Kelli (01:18.424)
I mean, I think she just is upset that Sutton, she's been, you know, had Sutton's back this time, all this time, and Sutton doesn't do the same for her. If it comes down to her and Kyle, Sutton has Kyle's back. That's how I'm taking it.

Wendy (01:30.144)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (01:36.654)
Right. think, I mean, that's, I think you're probably right, but I want to wait and see. I want to see how it plays out. We, I also want to see the whole Kathy Hilton thing. Because, know, Andy says at some point, you told your daughters you were a lesbian to Kathy Hilton. And she goes, yeah, for, for Kyle. Did you see that? Did you see that? Yeah.

Kelli (01:42.736)
Yeah.

Lori (02:00.559)
to make her feel better.

He's crazy.

Kelli (02:04.29)
No, I thought he was asking Kyle.

Wendy (02:07.518)
No! said it! Cathy! Because she's Cathy Hilton!

Lori (02:07.993)
No, classic.

Kelli (02:10.062)
Why would she say that? She's not a lesbian.

Lori (02:11.291)
Because she's crazy. Because she's craaaazy.

Kelli (02:14.992)
I know, but that's like, that's dumb. That's not quirky and funny. That's just stupid.

Wendy (02:18.232)
This is why, no, this is why I like Cathy Hilton. In her mind, I can, we have to wait and see it. just, I'm looking forward to this, I really am. So let's talk about this one. We start out with Jennifer and Cathy arriving. Cathy's getting her hair done and did you notice the stylist, Chris, that was doing her hair was the same stylist that was talking about Dorit not paying?

Kelli (02:27.18)
Yeah, let's wait and see.

Kelli (02:45.86)
Yeah, because I love his hair. I always know it's him.

Lori (02:45.999)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (02:47.542)
Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (02:49.253)
So I thought to myself...

Lori (02:55.001)
Like, so how real was that whole thing with Dory? Cause I don't know. I just felt like, no, he wasn't doing her hair, but like, I don't know. I don't know. I, like I said, I've just, I questioned that whole hairdo thing. I love, I love how Kathy Hilton showed up in rollers though. That's the, that's the best.

Kelli (03:01.712)
Well, he wasn't doing her hair.

Wendy (03:03.359)
No he wasn't.

Wendy (03:15.569)
I think it was real.

Wendy (03:20.155)
I mean, that's who she is with slippers.

Kelli (03:21.988)
That's funny, that's quirky and that's funny.

Lori (03:24.953)
That's the best, because that would be me.

Wendy (03:25.268)
That's who she is. Yeah, that's who she is. Yes. With the rollers. Yep. And Chris says, know, how are you feeling today? And she's like, I'm enjoying my lunch. It's very good chicken. Chris is like, no, about going on stage. I'm excited. Like, she had no idea. Like, what are you doing here? I'm here for the lunch. Got the good chicken.

Kelli (03:28.068)
Yes, well, obviously, yes.

Lori (03:29.571)
walking in the parking lot with the rollers like, yes, okay, hi.

Kelli (03:33.966)
Yes, obviously.

Kelli (03:50.522)
The thing is is that she just doesn't care. You know what I mean? Like, how are you feeling? Fine, I always feel fine. I'm Kathy Hilton for crying out loud. If I go out there and say something I don't like or regret later, I'll just have them cut it out. Right? Like she's done before.

Wendy (04:06.734)
So they're all still on lunch break and both Sutton and Garcelle are like, want to go home. They're annoyed. then back after lunch, Garcelle said, I want to say to Kyle, you told me stuff off camera just to shut me up. So she wasn't letting that go. And Kyle said,

Lori (04:07.375)
Yeah, right.

Lori (04:12.411)
That's great though.

Kelli (04:32.304)
What do think she told her?

Wendy (04:37.89)
Well, that's the whole thing is like, mean, I can only assume that she told her that she didn't want to talk about Morgan, but I mean, she could have told her something else. don't know.

Kelli (04:44.698)
Morgan.

Lori (04:48.751)
Yeah, she could have said, like, basically tried it out, not too sure about it, but I really don't want to talk about it anymore. Maybe that's what she said.

Wendy (04:57.153)
Right, right.

And then Kyle said, I told you stuff off camera that I couldn't say on camera and I was trusting and sharing with you as a way of getting to a deeper level with you. I was trusting you. Which I do think that, you know, she did trust her by telling her that, you know, if.

Lori (05:18.803)
Or is she trying to manipulate the situation like she's done before so that people will not discuss things that she doesn't want discussed?

Kelli (05:28.804)
I honestly think it's a little bit of both. I do think it's a little bit of both. Listen, Garcelle and Kyle have never been friends. They've never been friends. But I think, so I think part of her telling her was like, you know, I'm telling you this so you don't bring it up on the show. But the other part is, you know, I'm trusting that you will, right.

Lori (05:30.787)
It could be both. absolutely.

Wendy (05:36.982)
No, no, no, have not.

Lori (05:48.09)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (05:54.038)
Well, respect. Right. Yeah. I mean, listen, Andy didn't let it go. Andy said to Kyle, for the people at home that say, wait, you're on a reality show. You're supposed to tell us everything. Kyle said, I'm not going to say something on TV that's going to hurt, for example, my daughter. I will not hurt somebody. Well, I was thinking about this. She said, I'm not going to hurt somebody I love. So I was thinking this could have been one of two reasons she brought up her daughter. One is

Kelli (06:02.415)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (06:09.39)
Why did she bring up her daughters?

Wendy (06:22.574)
Because remember I told you I keep reading all this stuff? Yeah. But we've never found it anywhere, right? Like it's not been substantiated anywhere.

Kelli (06:25.028)
Yeah, about the one daughter saying things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I saw it a couple of times. And then if you, but if you look into it, it's not there.

Wendy (06:35.03)
It's not there. So I don't know if her daughters had something to say about it and she didn't want it out there because of something her daughter said to her. Or if she just said, I don't want to hurt somebody, for example, my daughter, because she didn't want to say the name of the person she didn't want to say. Like, I don't know if the daughters had anything to do with it. Or if...

Kelli (06:57.178)
Bye.

Lori (07:02.166)
Yeah, does it

Wendy (07:02.72)
if they did, because they may have. Like it may have been like her daughters are like, Ma, like, I don't want this. I don't want this out there.

Kelli (07:10.853)
Right.

Lori (07:11.759)
But shouldn't you have thought about that last season before you decided to do like your Lesbo video? what, I don't, so where you going?

Kelli (07:17.232)
Exactly. thank you, Andy, for bringing that up.

Lori (07:26.587)
But it's almost a little hypocritical of Andy because you are letting her obviously tell you production what can and cannot be talked about because she's been on there so long that she kinda and Kathy's her sister that she kinda has this thing. Like there's a reason why all of a sudden production is like, oh, okay, you don't wanna talk about that, we won't.

Wendy (07:55.456)
No, but they don't. They do talk about it. Like, shh, I'm-

Kelli (07:57.434)
Well, I don't think she's giving, she's not giving them anything to work with. She's not filming with her. She's not saying her name. So, and Andy's not aware of any of this. The editor, you know, they start editing it and I'm sure that that's when they start reporting back. But Andy said, Morgan's already a public figure. And then the music video out, that's where the rumor started of you having an intimate relationship with her.

Wendy (08:05.089)
Right, well sh-

Kelli (08:26.168)
because of this video. So it's like, liked the attention when it was positive, but you know, they only want the good attention. They don't want any of the bad attention. And listen, nobody's, I don't remember this. I don't think anybody was accusing her of stepping out on Mo with Morgan, right? Like that wasn't a thing. Like she cheated on Mo with Morgan. That was never.

Wendy (08:28.696)
Right.

Kelli (08:55.31)
So it's like, I don't know. I'm not a fan of this whole thing.

Wendy (09:01.806)
I'm sick of it to be quite honest with you. I mean.

Kelli (09:02.96)
I'm so sick of it. And then they bring up the text again. It's like, holy shit, we're gonna talk about this again?

Lori (09:07.237)
sick of that.

Wendy (09:10.166)
I know, I know. mean, Bose even said, which I thought was odd, Bose said, it's okay to say I'm not sharing and that's it, 10 toes down. I thought that was odd because Bose was the one saying that it wasn't okay. But then all of a sudden, then at the reunion, she's saying, it's okay if you don't wanna share. Well, is it okay?

Lori (09:28.507)
Well, think she meant, she meant like, it's okay to say that, but then don't be like, but I'm sharing so much and blah, blah.

Kelli (09:29.21)
Well...

Kelli (09:40.484)
I actually thought when Boze was saying, I thought Boze was prompting her to talk about the text message. Never Morgan.

Wendy (09:49.711)
but it wasn't, we weren't even at the text message yet.

Lori (09:49.741)
okay.

Kelli (09:53.666)
I mean, during the season. Boz was pushing Kyle to talk about the text messages with PK during the season. And then at the reunion when she said, it's okay for you to say, I'm not talking about this, in that context, she was talking about Morgan. Like, I'm saying it was two different things, not necessarily that she was contradicting herself. That's how I took it.

Wendy (09:58.35)
definitely. She was definitely, yes, definitely during the season.

Wendy (10:11.672)
Yep.

Right.

Okay.

Lori (10:17.989)
I got you.

Wendy (10:19.67)
Yeah, yeah. then it comes up. Dorit said, Dorit, said Kyle has two sets of rules, one for everyone else and one for her. It comes up what Dorit said on Watch What Happens Live. If Kyle being close to Morgan changed her relationship when Andy had asked her that question. And Dorit said that she felt more distant and that upset Kyle because it brought more problems to Kyle from Morgan.

Kelli (10:48.942)
Right. That's what Morgan didn't like right there. That she was taking Kyle away from her friends.

Wendy (10:49.627)
and right, right.

Right. And that's the first we were hearing that whole portion of it. I mean, we heard it when it happened, but we didn't know that was like the underlying current of what it was about, right? I mean, how would we have known that? Then Kyle said, now looking at it from another side, like, understand why you said that. Which again, I thought that was big of Kyle to say, Initially she was upset at her.

Kelli (11:02.543)
Yeah.

Wendy (11:24.696)
But then she's like, wait, I understand why you were saying that because I was spending more time with Morgan and you and I weren't hanging out, but it was when they were not in a good place. it all coincided at the same thing.

Kelli (11:39.482)
Well, they weren't in a good place because Kyle said that they weren't as close as Dorit thought.

Wendy (11:44.098)
They weren't as close, right, because they went on one vacation together, right. They had a different perception of what the relationship was. And then they had the...

Kelli (11:51.608)
Right, and that was hurtful to Dorit, and then she just answered a question honestly, but that was hurtful to Kyle. Why is it taking two years for them to have this conversation? Right? Literally this all happened two years ago. By now, I think.

Wendy (11:58.293)
Exactly. Exactly.

I know, this is like... I know!

Wendy (12:09.504)
Yeah, exactly. So then Andy asked if she thinks that the comments about Morgan, if that got her in trouble with Morgan and Kyle admits that anytime her name is brought up, she gets anxiety. And I don't know if she was saying Kyle gets anxiety because we know she has or Morgan gets anxiety, but I do too.

Kelli (12:29.348)
I think she was saying Morgan gets anxiety and I feel bad. That's because nobody should be made to feel that way. But she came on the show last season. It's like you can't pick and choose. Like unfortunately, you're subjecting yourself to negative feedback and positive feedback. So you can't like, I mean, you could just not go on the show. Obviously that's your choice, but.

Wendy (12:38.317)
Yeah.

Kelli (12:58.488)
Are you not going on the show because of some negative feedback? this is the industry you chose to, well, she didn't choose to be in reality TV, but you did choose to be in the music, and in the music industry. mean, nobody even knew who you were. Well, I'm sure some people knew who you were, but most people didn't know who you were. So, I mean, I'm sure you increased your fan base by being on the show, which is great. And I'm sure you appreciated that.

Lori (13:09.957)
the show.

Wendy (13:23.362)
Yeah, look.

Lori (13:23.675)
We got some social media comments how we're absolute complete idiots that we did not know who Morgan Wade was, everyone knew who she was.

Kelli (13:34.082)
I don't listen to country music. I don't know any country. I know Miranda Lambert.

Lori (13:38.255)
We need to.

Wendy (13:40.984)
Yeah, it's okay. It's okay.

Kelli (13:41.114)
That's who I know and that's who I like. But other than that, I don't listen to country. So no, I'm not an idiot. I just don't really like country music.

Wendy (13:48.59)
you

Kelli (13:51.376)
but go ahead and say something about that too.

Wendy (13:53.902)
It's all right. It's it's all good. Kyle said she that Morgan never experienced anything like this until housewives and I believe that because I We've talked about this like housewife fans are very passionate like Laurie just said they call us idiots because we don't know country music

Lori (14:09.755)
And that's an actual nice comment compared to some of them that are, it's like, I just got to put this out there. Ladies and some gentlemen, you take this shit way too serious. Way too serious. You got problems.

Wendy (14:15.279)
you know, it's fine. It's fine though. It's fine.

Kelli (14:18.608)
Wendy (14:32.206)
Andy said, well, it brought her publicity and Dorit said, yeah, she became a household name, which people did also comment on our social media that, yeah, I didn't know who she was and now I do. She did become a household name. Andy said, at what point that putting out the music video with the two of us, she had control of that. Kyle did have control of that. And so did Morgan. both did. They both had control of that.

Lori (14:44.859)
Hmm?

Kelli (14:46.362)
She did.

Kelli (14:55.226)
Guess.

Lori (14:56.259)
And Souther Morgan.

Kelli (15:02.042)
just like they have control over going to a store or a restaurant holding hands or whatever they're doing and people taking pictures of them.

Wendy (15:10.552)
Well, I mean, that's living their life. I don't know that they have control of living their life. I'm not, you know, living their life is living their-

Kelli (15:15.588)
They have control over when they go places together and are seen together and are photographed together. Sure they do. I mean, I'm not saying they shouldn't spend time together, but if you are spending time together and you're in LA where there is paparazzi, this is what's gonna happen. You're also putting pictures up of yourselves, you know, visiting Teddy in the hospital. You most certainly have control over that. There's no paparazzi in the hospital room.

I don't know, I'm just saying.

Lori (15:46.811)
Dare is that. It's true. It's true.

Wendy (15:48.898)
I mean, Morgan's friends with Teddy too, you know?

Kelli (15:53.538)
Okay. But I don't think Teddy and Morgan knew each other prior to Kyle and Morgan knowing each other, right?

Wendy (15:55.17)
I know Morgan, I-

Wendy (16:01.194)
I think they met at the same time. But then somebody on our social media said that Morgan's ex-husband worked for Kyle's husband? I don't think that's... Yeah, I don't know that Morgan was married. Was she married? She is young. I don't know. I don't know if any of that stuff is true, but I'm just saying that that was put out there.

Kelli (16:11.312)
the agency or something, right? I don't know if that's true.

Right, I don't know if she's so young.

Lori (16:18.939)
I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.

Kelli (16:23.013)
Yeah.

You know, somebody else I read made a really, really good point. And once I read it, I was like, shit, that's probably true. Cause that's something I would do. The whole Kyle texting PK thing. Cause they said, you know, when they went by, when she went back to the room at Oceanside, she's probably texting PK to keep tabs on Mo. I mean, as soon as I read it, I'm like, my God, I would totally do that. That was totally me back in the day.

Wendy (16:42.381)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (16:48.155)
Absolutely. Absolutely.

Wendy (16:48.247)
yeah, yeah definitely.

Wendy (16:55.296)
Yeah, no, that was definitely-

Kelli (16:56.302)
Not that we had cell phones and were texting, because we're old, but you know, there were other avenues to explore.

Lori (16:59.291)
Yeah. But that's definitely, yeah, that's definitely part of her gig with PK almost definitely. Yeah. I mean, because she's, she's putting herself underneath the wheels of the bus for a reason. And that's part of the reason. Cause she knows, and you saw her, she knows it's fucked up. She knows that everybody says it's fucked up and she kind of agrees, but I think she keeps doing it.

Wendy (16:59.296)
Right, now.

Yeah.

Kelli (17:05.968)
For sure, once I read it, I'm like, that's exactly what's going on.

Kelli (17:14.478)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (17:22.126)
and you know, but.

Lori (17:29.413)
for that reason.

Kelli (17:30.906)
But you know what is really fucked up? I bet you Dorit actually knows the true reason, but she's still making it a storyline.

Wendy (17:31.15)
Right.

Lori (17:38.875)
Don't they make everything a storyline?

Wendy (17:39.223)
I mean...

Kelli (17:39.662)
I'm sure Dorit knows that that's why Kyle's texting him.

Wendy (17:43.756)
Yeah, I mean, listen, it is a show. They have to put something out there. mean, they show Kyle, they show the scene again where Kyle walks out of the spa party about the texting and Andy tells her about the poll that they did on Watch What Happens Live and 75 % of the audience thought that she was wrong and you know.

Kelli (17:50.639)
Yeah.

Wendy (18:09.838)
pretty much everyone there, we knew that. And Kyle knew that. She's like, yeah, I know. And she admitted it. She's like, I know, I know. And Andy even asked her, like, what if Mo and Dorit were texting? Kyle said it would bother her. And she totally understands. she, yeah, yeah.

Kelli (18:11.791)
Yeah.

Kelli (18:24.278)
it would absolutely bother her.

It doesn't matter who Mo would be texting, it would bother her, because that's who Mo is.

Wendy (18:31.458)
Right.

Right. And then Kyle tells Dorit that she broke the girl code when she read her text to everybody at the reunion.

Kelli (18:42.33)
two different things.

Wendy (18:43.798)
Well, listen, I think that they are two different things, but she has a point. I mean, she did break, you know, reading her text, but the point that Dorit makes is like that you and I weren't friends at the time. And Kyle's like, yeah, that was my point. We weren't friends. So then you go and do this and then you guys get separated and you and I aren't talking. I mean, we weren't friends.

Kelli (18:45.552)
two very different things.

Kelli (19:08.378)
Well, are you really worried about following girl code with somebody you're not friends with?

Lori (19:13.893)
There you go.

Wendy (19:14.19)
Apparently.

Kelli (19:15.096)
Why would you be worried about following girl code?

Lori (19:17.785)
You're not.

Wendy (19:18.016)
Apparently not. But Dorit wasn't either. So neither one of them were worried about it, right? And I think that they kind of both admitted and they, I feel like they made up there. I feel like that that's kind of, like that's done with, don't you finally?

Kelli (19:19.994)
Yeah.

Kelli (19:25.36)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (19:35.696)
Yeah, I think so. It seems like they're gonna be okay moving forward. think Bo's though, when she said it was the insinuation that Kyle and PK kept secrets for each other. That was the problem with the text message. But yeah, no, it seems like they're just gonna move forward now. And for the love of God, let's hope so.

Wendy (19:53.634)
I think that they're done. Yeah, I think that they're done with it. I do. Bo said on the Hot Mic podcast that Kyle is a liar. And did you see Kyle's face? She's like, I've never been accused of being a liar. And Bo said, well, in my perspective, like, omission is lying.

Lori (19:55.429)
Please do.

Kelli (20:14.064)
Mm-hmm.

I'm sure Kyle's been called a liar.

Kelli (20:21.936)
and I'm a little disappointed in Bravo for not rolling tape, showing proof of that. It had to have happened at some point.

Lori (20:25.915)
previously.

Wendy (20:32.878)
So they make up and I don't even want to talk about it anymore. All right, enough. Like who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Jennifer Tilly comes out. This we can talk about, okay? They bring Jennifer Tilly out and they just kind of roll scenes of Jennifer and pretty much every scene of Jennifer she's laughing. Which, laughing, which we love. And Andy asked her like what she thought.

Kelli (20:38.082)
I know, once they brought up the text message, I'm like, no, this is what everybody's talking about. Yeah. Yes, thank God, yes.

Lori (20:39.433)
I don't want talk about any of it anymore.

Kelli (20:54.852)
yelling and laughing. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Wendy (21:01.698)
you know, coming on this show is gonna be like, and she said, well, it's really real. Like she didn't really realize how crazy it was. Like, and you could see the look on her face when she's sitting there in the midst of all, everything, all the chaos all the time. She's just like, boy, like what am I doing? Yeah. Yep. Andy brings up some of her expensive items and her LV boat bag was designed by Pharrell Williams. That was an interesting tidbit.

Kelli (21:16.954)
Here we go. Buckle up.

Kelli (21:30.372)
Yeah, that was. She did say that her ex created the Simpsons during their marriage and that's why she got a piece of it. So that at least we, yeah.

Wendy (21:32.089)
Wendy (21:37.452)
Yes.

Lori (21:37.807)
Yes. Right. That's what we're saying.

Wendy (21:40.626)
Yeah, she did say that. She also talked about a lot of people were talking about that necklace that she wears in her opening credits and that was designed, Cole Porter had that commissioned from a jeweler called Plateau and it was for his wife Linda Lee Porter who was a famous fashionista. It is gorgeous. The necklace has been called the most important piece of American jewelry. I was like,

Lori (22:00.069)
Beautiful.

Lori (22:07.683)
nice.

Wendy (22:09.0)
It was, it's gorgeous. And she said that she had wanted to buy it for 20 years. When she first saw it, she couldn't afford it. And then she got really rich. Yeah. Then Andy said, are the Simpson checks seven figures a year? And she's like, I can't answer that. can't say.

Kelli (22:10.426)
Yeah, it is.

Kelli (22:18.862)
Hehehehehe

Lori (22:19.525)
night.

Kelli (22:22.128)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (22:22.639)
Good for you, Telly.

Lori (22:35.011)
And good for

Wendy (22:36.17)
No, she shouldn't say it and I can't believe he asked that. Like really? But I did like that he did announce to everybody that she does not keep any of her jewelry at her house, that she keeps it at a vault in a bank.

Kelli (22:41.008)
she's gonna ask.

Lori (22:50.969)
Yes, thank God.

Kelli (22:52.004)
Yeah, because that happened to Kyle, right? That's what happened. She got robbed after or was it Dorit?

Wendy (22:57.453)
they both got robbed. this is kind of a common thing that happens now, you know?

Lori (22:58.235)
They're both dead.

Kelli (22:59.704)
about them. Yeah.

Wendy (23:05.166)
then Kathy Hilton comes out with her purse and she always comes out with her purse regardless of where she's going. She always shows up with her little purse. Exactly. Exactly. Andy says, we got a great kick out of you at Sutton's fashion show. I know.

Lori (23:14.799)
Like Queen Elizabeth. her little bag. Love it.

Lori (23:29.198)
Trainwreck.

Kelli (23:30.384)
I still can't believe that. That model, I wish you would have pushed.

Lori (23:34.587)
In the pool. It would be great. An accidental nudge into the pool would have been awesome.

Kelli (23:36.538)
Seriously. Seriously.

Wendy (23:37.966)
That would have been funny.

Kelli (23:42.768)
That poor girl would have been shipped back up to where she came from, but...

Lori (23:46.543)
Yeah.

Wendy (23:47.608)
Kathy was trying to say she was talking to Erica's mom, but she didn't really know her name. So she said, I was talking to Mrs. Girardi. she's like, no, that's that she's like, right. She's like, Mrs. Jane. She's like, no, Jane is my state. she's like, it's just so funny. She had no idea.

Lori (23:54.235)
That's great.

Kelli (23:55.522)
Erika's like, I'm Mrs. Gerardi.

Kelli (24:07.652)
No

Lori (24:08.155)
And you could really care less, which is even better.

Kelli (24:11.79)
Yeah, even if you told her, she wasn't gonna remember.

Lori (24:14.608)
now.

Wendy (24:14.742)
Right, right. Then they bring up the crazy stuff that, know, Cathy said, Kyle asked if she was Chinese. And she said, she's like, how did this come up? She's like, well, this woman asked her for her birth name. And she's like, yeah. they're like, and she looked it up. They're like, well, where did she look? she looked up on her phone. she looked it up on her

Lori (24:24.731)
lord.

Kelli (24:37.732)
Yeah. And she's like, and she didn't even know who I was. Yes, she did.

Lori (24:42.201)
Yes, she did. Because she googled your ass. Yes, she did.

Kelli (24:45.316)
Yes, she did. Exactly.

Wendy (24:47.749)
That's what you looked up on the phone. Oh my gosh, that was so funny. And then he brought up that Cathy said that Mauricio aged badly and PK looked 56 a decade ago.

Kelli (24:49.776)
You

Kelli (24:53.712)
you

Kelli (25:01.744)
tell you what though, Maurizio isn't looking great. He's really not. He almost looks like a smoker where the smoking's caught up with him. You know, where there's like a fine line, and I should talk, but you know, all of a sudden, like the bags under the eyes get a little bit deeper. He looks like a smoker, and I know he smokes weed, but I'm just wondering if he smokes cigarettes too.

Lori (25:04.952)
No, no, no, no, no, no.

Lori (25:11.226)
Yeah.

Wendy (25:26.99)
I mean, it's possible.

Lori (25:27.247)
He just all sudden looks very like drawn and maybe he's partying too much, you know? You can't fly like you're 20 when you're not. You can't. It doesn't work.

Kelli (25:31.322)
Yeah.

Right.

Kelli (25:37.966)
Bye.

Wendy (25:38.08)
No, no you can't. No.

Kelli (25:41.07)
Because he, mean, how old's Kyle? Is she 50? Okay, so he must be too.

Wendy (25:44.236)
Yeah, she's in her 50s. Yeah, yeah. But did you hear the way Cathy explained it? She's like, well, it's just that Kyle looks so good, which is true, which is true. No, she's not. And even about PK, she's like, well, he actually looks better now. He looked older when he was heavier and he was drinking. So now that he's not drinking.

Lori (25:47.929)
Yeah.

Lori (25:55.481)
Yeah, it's just true.

Kelli (25:56.782)
She's right. I mean, she's not lying. She's not wrong.

Lori (26:00.505)
Right.

Lori (26:09.689)
Right.

Kelli (26:11.576)
Yeah, he does look much better since he's not drinking. Yeah.

Wendy (26:15.15)
He does. He does.

Lori (26:15.344)
Yeah.

Kelli (26:23.052)
Erica says Sutton kisses up to Kathy. She said Sutton and Garcelle, but I don't see it with Garcelle.

Wendy (26:26.582)
Yeah, that was on Watch What Happens Live.

Lori (26:32.891)
I don't see that with Garcelle either. was like, girl, what are you talking about?

Wendy (26:35.658)
No. No.

Kelli (26:36.592)
Yeah, Sutton for sure. I mean, we know she, you know, she'll do whatever she has to.

Lori (26:39.511)
most definitely. But Garcelle doesn't even, you know, hasn't gone to her parties. I don't think Garcelle could give a shit about Cathy Hill and she really couldn't. And that's one thing I always liked about her is that she could, seems like she could really care less. Not important to her at all.

Wendy (26:46.602)
No, she doesn't. She doesn't. No.

Kelli (26:48.879)
Right.

Kelli (26:55.34)
Yeah, yeah. Right.

Wendy (26:59.392)
And Cathy says no, that they don't suck up to her. She doesn't think that they do. And Sutton says, Cathy and I are friends. We talk a lot, which I do think is true. I do think that Sutton and Cathy are talking a lot. I think that they are friends. And then Cathy takes the gum out. And Kyle's like.

Kelli (27:13.817)
Yeah.

Kelli (27:20.666)
Did you see Kyle looking at Kathy when they asked about Kim? Like Kyle wasn't gonna answer anything. She was gonna let Kathy answer that question. It's just an interesting dynamic.

Lori (27:23.931)
Mm-hmm. Mm-mm.

Wendy (27:24.0)
Yes.

Wendy (27:28.576)
I don't think she wanted Cathy to... She didn't want Cathy to answer it either. It shouldn't have been asked. It really shouldn't have been asked. It shouldn't have been asked.

Kelli (27:34.744)
It shouldn't have been asked, I agree with that. But I think they handled it well, you know.

Wendy (27:43.008)
Yeah, I do, I do too because again, I don't feel like the question should have been asked. mean, Kim isn't on the show. She's, you know, she's moved to Florida for a reason. She's in Florida for a reason. facility, I'm sure, a rehab.

Kelli (27:50.552)
Right. Just let her be in peace. I'm sure she's probably in a facility. Yeah.

Lori (27:59.642)
Right.

Wendy (28:02.126)
Andy said it didn't take long to weaponize wallets and watermelon cocktails. Andy asked Sutton what was her goal in doing the friendship ceremony with the ribbon. I'm glad he asked her that. Because that's kind of how we all felt, right? Like you're doing this ceremony that everyone needs to be honest and then you're the one like flipping out on everybody.

Kelli (28:25.614)
Right.

Wendy (28:30.424)
So she said that, you know, she thought that they were all disjointed and maybe, you know, they could have like an angry moment and then apologize and still be friends. But she was the one who was always like prompting these angry moments and not taking accountability for anything. Like Sutton never apologizes for anything.

Kelli (28:48.143)
Right.

Kelli (28:51.672)
Now, and Dory brought up her beady stare. Did you hear that?

Lori (28:55.803)
Yeah, she does have a beady stare. She can give you that death look. Yeah, I told you, it's like a snake. It's like a... It's a very... Yeah, she gives you a real dirty, nasty...

Kelli (28:57.68)
She does something with her eyes. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Cause she gets, it's like, yeah.

Kelli (29:11.78)
Yeah. She did.

Wendy (29:12.012)
Yeah. Well, Dorit was really poking her. I mean, she really was trying to get her to flip out because Andy said...

Kelli (29:20.902)
Yeah, because she goes here she comes.

Wendy (29:23.488)
Yeah, yeah. The first time Dorit opened up to the group, you abruptly interrupted her. And Sutton, you when she was talking about Jagger and Sutton's like, well, production, I'm surprised she said that. But you guys said that when we were talking about that.

Kelli (29:39.086)
I'm surprised she said it too, but I totally believe it 100%.

Wendy (29:42.316)
Yeah, and she said, well, listen, I admit, like, I didn't know what to say. I could have done it better. She admits that, you know, the way she did it was wrong. But then that's when Dorit's, well, you're like Miss Southern manners. Like, you should know better. Like, she was really, really pushing her.

Kelli (29:59.428)
Yeah, and then she said the thing about living on a main street.

Wendy (30:03.212)
Yeah, you don't live like the queen of Sheba. You live on a mean effing road.

Kelli (30:11.78)
Listen, she doesn't have little kids. You know, that's a beautiful house she has. The backyard with the tennis court, like, that's nice.

Wendy (30:19.054)
Yeah, but the point is Dorit was so bent out of shape because she made the comment about her wallet and now she's making a comment about her house. Like, I mean, seriously?

Kelli (30:27.735)
Sure.

Kelli (30:31.28)
I know, it's tip for tat.

Wendy (30:33.23)
It's ridiculous. It really is ridiculous. I I think she was eating candy. Me too. Yep.

Kelli (30:36.29)
Yeah, and there's Jennifer Tilly sitting there eating

Lori (30:40.283)
I love it. I love it. That would be me. That would be me. I'd have candy in my pocket. I'd be like, oh, listen to this. I love her.

Kelli (30:54.394)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (30:55.31)
Doreet said Sutton says to Doreet I don't need you to tell me there's more to life than a big bank account Doreet said I know you're used to buying people and buying gifts and that's when Sutton said well who have I tried to buy and Then that's when Doreet says here she comes And I in the in the midst of all that I don't know if you heard I'm Garcelle and Jennifer Jennifer says to Garcelle I think she's on some anxiety medication

Kelli (31:13.028)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (31:24.666)
Yeah, what was that about?

Wendy (31:26.69)
Well, I think that's what happened when she went on the lunch break. I think she probably took a Xanax. And I think that's why Dorit wasn't really getting to her. Like she was just kind of...

Lori (31:32.485)
to keep yourself calm, son.

Lori (31:42.607)
Yeah, just like very, very chill compared to how she's been for the rest of the season. And then, then Garcello's like, we're mic'd.

Kelli (31:43.32)
Right. Right.

Wendy (31:44.182)
just sitting there and Dorit kept.

Kelli (31:48.78)
Mm-hmm, right.

Wendy (31:48.814)
Right. Right.

Wendy (31:55.758)
So then we're going to have to wait because that's kind of really where it ends. Like we didn't we don't know if she gets her to explode because we didn't see that and they didn't give us a preview of that portion of it.

Kelli (31:58.458)
Yeah, Jennifer had a Kathy Hilton moment there. That is so funny.

Lori (32:00.729)
Yeah, it's good.

So good.

Lori (32:19.483)
She did get her to do the death stare.

Kelli (32:19.674)
Yeah.

Kelli (32:23.034)
She definitely did. She definitely did.

Wendy (32:24.055)
Yeah.

Lori (32:24.377)
She, she, she, that glare came out, definitely. And you know, was, when Andy was asking Kyle about, I, cause I replayed it a couple of times, when he was asking Kyle about the whole video thing with Morgan, you know, Kyle never really answered. She gave some bullshit answer that was like totally trying to mis- like had nothing.

Wendy (32:27.693)
Yeah.

Kelli (32:29.198)
So this epi- sorry, go ahead.

Kelli (32:44.878)
No, she didn't.

Wendy (32:45.504)
No, she didn't answer.

Lori (32:52.507)
Her answer had nothing to do with the question that he asked at all. Like total deflection. I was like, oh, look at you.

Kelli (33:00.837)
Yeah.

Wendy (33:01.848)
Well, she's media trained, let's just put it that way. Kyle is definitely media trained. But I don't know if you remember when the video came out and that whole storyline came out last season, Kyle was supposedly, Mo even mentioned it, she was doing a documentary about Morgan. Mo had talked about it, that's why they were spending so much time together, that they were doing a documentary and Kyle was like producing it.

Lori (33:04.366)
Yes.

Kelli (33:28.836)
Really?

Wendy (33:29.684)
Yes. I'm saying, and even I'll be honest with you, Heather McDonald mentioned it the other day.

Kelli (33:36.142)
I wonder if it ever came out.

Wendy (33:37.718)
I know it didn't, we would have known. It definitely did not come out, because that would have been something that would have been brought up on the reunion. So I wonder if it was real, or if it's just not ready yet, or if it was just...

Kelli (33:44.494)
Yeah, so...

Lori (33:50.819)
or if it just got canned, or she was just digging her so hard that she said, let me just make a whole documentary about you too.

Kelli (33:53.488)
you

Wendy (33:58.058)
Yeah, because that's how it started was, know, there was supposedly Kyle was making a documentary. And Moe, yeah, yeah. Did you get a chance to listen to the Bravo docket about PK? Okay. So there's two parts. just, it's just crazy the amount of bankruptcy that he has.

Kelli (34:06.32)
That's interesting, I didn't catch that.

Kelli (34:14.48)
No, I did start to and I didn't finish it.

Wendy (34:26.862)
been going through. yeah, well, it's no, it's all personal. Well, yes, it is personal in business, but it started out, this is where it gets kind of like crazy. Like it started out in the UK and he had all these debts in 2013. He had this bankruptcy case that

Kelli (34:29.348)
like claiming bankruptcy personally and for business.

Wendy (34:53.454)
you know, they wrote off all this money and included in that was a Barclays debt. Well, the Barclays debt was actually associated to the Bellagio because when back in 2009, he had gotten a several million dollar marker. It was like 3.6 million dollar marker from the Bellagio. And when he was now back in the United States, he said that that was

written off in the UK. So it went to court in the United States and they said they're not acknowledging the UK bankruptcy. That didn't matter. But then when they went back to the UK, the UK saying that that was covered under the bankruptcy. So it was like going back and forth. And basically one of the things that they were talking about on the Bravo docket is that PK is very good. He works very well in the gray areas. And that's what he does.

Like he just moved things around, like moves money and moves companies. He plays the shell game. He had at one point when he was married to his wife, his first wife, they left the UK when they started this bankruptcy. They came to the US, they bought a house in Florida. And then they were living in New York City. He was working for the Hard Rock.

Lori (35:57.657)
He plays the shell game.

Wendy (36:22.368)
And when they asked him what he did, like he was like cross-examined and they're reading like the actual document, all his questions and his answers like, well, what did you do for the hard rock? well, I did kind of a promotion thing. Well, how much were you paid? Well, it was a different thing. It wasn't exactly a salary and there was other, you know, other perks with it. He was living in a place in Manhattan while he was working for the hard rock and the rent was, I think they said,

$47,000 or $57,000 a month. Yeah. And then the ex-wife was in LA and then he was in New York and then Dorit comes into the picture and then there's another apartment that's being rented and that other apartment is being rented in Dorit's name. But he was the guarantor.

Kelli (36:53.828)
What?

Wendy (37:18.142)
And they were asking him, well, where was your money coming from if you were bankrupt? Like he was never able to answer like direct questions. Like the judge would say to him, well, when you left the UK and you moved to the United States and you had filed bankruptcy, you had two cars when you were in the UK. yes, I did. What were the cars that you had? Well, I had a Bentley and I had a Land Rover.

Kelli (37:30.756)
Thank

Wendy (37:41.068)
So where are those cars now? Well, I don't know. Those cars were leased. I don't know where they are. I maybe my father drove one or maybe my brother or maybe the lease was up. I don't know. Like, what? Like these are things that he would do. When you were living in the house in Florida, like who was living there? Was it you and your wife? Were the children living there? But the children were living in LA and that yet you had a residence in New York. So one of the things that they were trying to figure out about these bankruptcies is where was your

Kelli (37:52.749)
Right.

Wendy (38:11.03)
Where were you technically living? Were you living in the UK or were you living in the United States? well, I had an office in the UK and I traveled a lot for business, but you had a residence here. And how much was the rent that was in Dorit's name? well, the rent was $16,000 a month. Well, who paid that? Well, I paid some money, but my money would go, you know, we don't know what would go. Everything would get funneled through Dorit. Well, who else would pay for the rent? maybe my father would give us some money or.

Kelli (38:16.698)
Right.

Wendy (38:40.172)
this one would give us, like he's, everything is like this one would give me money or that one would give me money.

Kelli (38:44.354)
It sounds like, remember that movie with Leonardo DiCaprio, Catch Me If You Can? It sounds like that, right?

Wendy (38:48.983)
Yeah.

Lori (38:48.987)
Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I think he's a shady character. I really do.

Wendy (38:52.426)
Yeah, like when I was listening to this, when I was, yeah, when I was listening to the questioning that was going on in these depositions, I was like, what is, these answers are insane.

Kelli (38:56.205)
He must be.

Kelli (39:06.756)
Yeah, like how does it like, and when you do at least a chapter 11, what's it called? IDI, it's like a, you know, questioning. It's like an, you know, not an interview, but I think it's a judge who does it. So this is what, that must've been what it was. I think it's an IDI, but I forget what the IDI stands for. Yeah, so I mean, you have to,

Wendy (39:25.292)
Yeah, it was a judge that was asking him these questions.

Kelli (39:37.264)
You have to provide substantive answers like.

Lori (39:42.935)
Obviously not, because slippery, slippery snake there.

Kelli (39:44.472)
I guess he didn't. Yeah.

Wendy (39:46.577)
Yeah. Yeah. So I'm just looking at the transcript from this. So, okay, 2012, very familiar with the legal proceedings. Okay, the question he's trying to impeach him on on his deposition is, did you have plans when you first started working for the New York Cosmos to build a stadium? Because at some point, he started working. Do you remember the New York Cosmos? They were like a soccer team. It was like a

big New York City soccer team before soccer was big.

Kelli (40:18.32)
I don't even remember

Wendy (40:20.192)
So he was working for the Hard Rock at the time and he told them that he wasn't gonna work for them anymore because he wanted to focus on this Cosmos team. So he told them to stop paying him, but maybe he would come back to them later, which by the way, he's still working for them. Like he still works for the Hard Rock right now as we speak. Yes. Yes, that is the question.

Kelli (40:37.712)
Now?

Lori (40:39.148)
But the question is doing what? Doing what?

Kelli (40:42.511)
Right!

Wendy (40:44.716)
That is the question. Well, I do some kind of promotions. He just like just talks in circles. So he was getting all this money together to get this stadium. And he's like, well, I, you know, I was raising money and then, you know, people were investing from here and people were investing from there. And well, where's the money coming from? Well, we don't really know where the, it just, you know, the money is there and then we have the money. And you just like.

Lori (40:50.437)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (41:13.59)
It's unbelievable. And honestly, reminds me of like, it leads me to believe one that Dorit knows what's going on. And Dorit is very much like that. She just says a lot of words that don't mean anything. She just talks and talks and talks.

Kelli (41:22.33)
Yeah.

Kelli (41:30.842)
She has to know. mean, you can't, I know there are some situations where women aren't fully aware of the financial situations in their households. But when you are married to somebody who doesn't have a Monday through Friday nine to five job.

Wendy (41:40.916)
Right. Right.

Wendy (41:51.2)
Yes.

Kelli (41:53.008)
I believe she would be aware of his, you know, antics.

Wendy (41:58.604)
And when I was talking about the lease in New York City, she was just his girlfriend at the time. They weren't even married. She was just his girlfriend. Yeah. First house that we saw PK and Doriton. Okay, and then they go to Beverly Hills. It's just all like a house of cards that like...

Lori (41:58.661)
how he operates.

Kelli (42:11.023)
now.

Lori (42:23.375)
house of cards. Well, you know, I wonder too, like, maybe that's one of the reasons why they really...

Kelli (42:24.493)
It is.

Lori (42:31.429)
Don't move forward with the divorce because then the jig is off.

Kelli (42:35.716)
Well, I was just thinking the same thing.

Lori (42:39.067)
And the jig is up and then she's out that paycheck. And maybe with all his bullshit going on, maybe her paycheck is a mean and a lot more than it used to. You know what mean? And then if you give that puppy up, then, you know...

Wendy (42:51.415)
Yeah.

Wendy (42:58.518)
I know, that's what I'm thinking that like, you know, that's why when Sutton is asking about a forensic accountant and like, yeah.

Kelli (43:07.681)
It's like, fuck no.

Lori (43:09.367)
Yeah, exactly. I think that's the last thing that she wants.

Kelli (43:11.376)
That's the last thing I want.

Wendy (43:14.72)
Yeah, yeah. I mean, one of the questions was, know, your girlfriend Dorit, like, what is her business? Well, she's a swimwear designer. She's based in New York. Like, these are all, she speaks fluent Italian. She's very international girl. We're very close. She's amazing and supportive.

Kelli (43:17.807)
Yeah.

Kelli (43:37.872)
Who said that?

Wendy (43:39.054)
P.K. said this about Dorit during this deposition. Yeah, because they're trying to figure out where it is he lives. So then the other thing that comes up is he has an O-1 visa. So what is an O-1 visa? an O-1 visa is a visa given out for outstanding talent in a field. It's also referred to as a visa for aliens of extraordinary ability.

Kelli (43:41.552)
okay, okay.

Kelli (44:09.133)
on.

Wendy (44:09.942)
Right? So they're asking him, like, why did you have that kind of visa? He's like, well, I don't know. Everyone in LA has that kind of visa. That's the kind of visa you have in LA. it's so, I'm telling you, listening to this, this could be a whole series of like, what really, what really went on? it's, yeah, it's,

Kelli (44:21.85)
That's interesting.

Lori (44:36.217)
Yeah. What does PK really do?

Kelli (44:36.592)
I have to listen to it. And how has none of this come out already? Although not a fan, but Camille alleged all of this at that one dinner. Damn.

Wendy (44:49.954)
Yes, yes, yes she did. Yes she did. And that is probably why her and Camille are so at odds with each other.

Kelli (45:00.344)
Yeah, because Camille obviously has some kind of source, you know, giving her this information and it's true.

Wendy (45:03.799)
Right.

Lori (45:04.772)
to know about the jig.

Wendy (45:08.14)
Yes, it is true and she doesn't want it brought up because again that house of cards will come crumbling down.

Kelli (45:16.368)
sounds like it's going to anyway.

Wendy (45:18.922)
Yeah, I don't. Yeah.

Lori (45:18.937)
Well, listen, you can only move the shelves so many times. You know, you can only do it so many times. But that's like we talked about last time. It's just a shame that these shows kind of attract that kind of thing. you know, you're just trying to there's there are people who are very wealthy and are on the shows. And then there are people who are, you know, I mean, think about like when

Kelli (45:23.536)
Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (45:47.705)
Bethany Frankel talks about when she started out. She had to like beg her friends for different outfits so she had something to change into because she was trying to make it seem like she had a lot more money than she had. And you know that kind of mentality feeds into especially that type of situation with PK and Duree to exacerbate it even more.

Wendy (46:10.636)
Yeah, I don't know. just find it very interesting how crazy, and it's been going on a long time. Like, I can't...

Kelli (46:18.808)
Yes, I mean, how old is Jagger? They've been married longer than Jagger's born, right?

Wendy (46:24.012)
Yes. Yes. Yes.

Kelli (46:27.468)
It is interesting that we've never, well, I guess it's not that big of a deal, but we've never, you never even hear him talk about his older children.

Wendy (46:35.502)
No, no. And basically what they wound up deciding is he was going to live, his main interest was going to be wherever his children were. So his children were in the United States at that point, the older children. So that's where his main interest was in the United States, even though he had his, like I said, office. Yet in 2009, he signed a casino marker at the Bellagio for $3.695 million.

Lori (47:04.175)
So obviously he was not only or is an alcoholic, he also has a gambling problem.

Wendy (47:10.126)
major gambling problem. Yep. Yep.

Kelli (47:10.616)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Lori (47:12.217)
Because that is, that is no joke.

Kelli (47:16.014)
No, that's no joke. I'll tell you what though. Online gambling has contributed incredibly to bankruptcies. I'll just leave it at that.

Wendy (47:17.249)
Right.

Wendy (47:26.967)
I'm sure. Yeah.

Lori (47:27.168)
I'm sure. I'm sure. I am sure.

Kelli (47:30.86)
Online gambling is the devil.

Lori (47:34.625)
yes, yes, I'll go with you on that one. Yeah, now it's just so incredibly easy to do.

Wendy (47:43.438)
Speaking of that, did you see the big indictment that just happened in New Jersey?

Kelli (47:48.752)
with the Lucchese family? Lucchese family, yeah.

Lori (47:49.067)
yeah, you know, I was just thinking about that. was just going to say that. The other case, I was just thinking that like how interesting it is that you can, even though it's legal and as available as gambling is, there's still money to be made the old fashioned way. And who, and I was very surprised at that because I thought, like that must be kind of like a dead thing now, because you can just go to the casino or you could just, you know,

Wendy (47:52.736)
Yes!

Kelli (48:05.976)
Yeah in the back room

Wendy (48:06.731)
Yes, right?

Kelli (48:13.967)
Bye.

Lori (48:17.903)
bed on the horses or you could just do your online sports betting. Like why would you need a bookie anymore? But I guess you do. I guess people still dig it.

Kelli (48:21.986)
Yeah.

Wendy (48:25.716)
Right, I know. Yeah, I almost fell over when I read that. I was like, my, and it's all over. Like I read every name. I was like, I wanna see if I know anybody. Did you look at the names? I look, no, so it's, well, gotta, you know, you gotta look at the names. You have to. You don't wanna look at them?

Kelli (48:25.784)
Right, right. You do.

Kelli (48:36.586)
Mm-hmm. I didn't look at the names.

Lori (48:38.155)
No, I did not. No, I heard it on the radio.

Kelli (48:42.094)
I probably shouldn't look at the names.

Now I'm gonna look at the names.

I feel like I could know somebody.

Wendy (48:51.116)
Well, that's why I wanted to look at them. I wanted to see if I knew anybody. I didn't know anybody. But they're all over. Like there's people from Spring Lake. There's people from Patterson. There's people. There's a there's a council president on there. Yep. There I mean, yeah. Yep. It's it's very it's. I was too. I was like, this is interesting.

Lori (49:06.341)
Yeah, I was going to say there was council person, Political position person, yeah. Crazy, yeah. I was very surprised.

Kelli (49:12.879)
Wow.

Lori (49:19.515)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (49:21.946)
Huh.

Lori (49:23.163)
So we shall see with Beverly Hills part three. I'll be glad when it's over. I'm done. I'm done with it.

Wendy (49:23.959)
So.

Wendy (49:28.652)
Okay.

Kelli (49:28.654)
Yeah. I mean, what else are we going to talk about coming up?

Wendy (49:33.388)
I don't know, we're gonna have to wait and see. I don't know.

Kelli (49:35.182)
Yeah. I feel like they're really amping this Garcelle departure up and I think she just leaves at the end and doesn't take the cast picture.

Wendy (49:47.884)
know though because while they were filming I heard that Kyle walked out two times.

Kelli (49:55.204)
I do remember hearing that, but we haven't seen her do it once. They haven't really gotten into the whole Moe thing though yet with them being separated and him being seen with other women. So maybe that's when she does it.

Wendy (49:56.686)
And we haven't seen her do it once.

Wendy (50:04.024)
So.

Wendy (50:08.942)
Maybe. Maybe. I mean...

Kelli (50:11.096)
I really think deep down she just wants her husband back and it's not happening. I just don't know why. I don't know. I don't even wanna talk about it anymore. I really, it's like, cause we're just going backwards. Right? Yeah.

Lori (50:24.379)
Exactly.

Wendy (50:24.674)
Alright, well wait.

I know. We'll wait until next week when we talk about it, when we find out what they're talking about.

Lori (50:34.595)
It's like a dog chasing its tail. I'm getting dizzy. I'm getting dizzy. Yeah, no more. Yeah, no more.

Wendy (50:36.686)
Alright, well until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Please give us five star reviews. Bye.

Kelli (50:36.88)
Exactly. It's. We're going around and around and around and around. Yeah.

Kelli (50:50.564)
Bye.

Lori (50:51.375)
Bye.