RHOA S16 Premiere: Love Bombs, Breakups & Birthday Bling

 RHOA S16 Premiere: Love Bombs, Breakups & Birthday Bling 

RHOA - S16 E1 - "Welcome Back Peaches"

Main Highlights:

• Porsha’s Return & Divorce:
  • Porsha is back on RHOA, filing for divorce from Simon.
  • Still living in the marital home with daughter Pillar.
  • Issues stem from financial and trust problems.
• Shamea’s Life Update:
  • Lives in a $9M estate called Stirling Hall.
  • Married to Gerald for 10 years, mother to 5-year-old Shay & 15-month-old Shiloh (born via surrogate).
  • Multitalented: actress, singer, dancer, and host.
• Drew & Ralph’s Messy Divorce:
  • Ralph is court-ordered to stay in the basement.
  • Strict custody arrangement; Drew has to leave home on certain days.
  • Drew communicating with Ralph through an app.
  • Working on music with Dennis (Porsha’s ex).
• Kelli’s Single Mom Journey:
  • Mom of four daughters (17, 11, and 8-year-old twins).
  • Finalizing divorce after an 11-year marriage, involving police intervention.
  • Entrepreneur: Owns Nana’s Chicken and Waffles, creator of 24k gold waffle syrup and cookbooks.
  • Spoiled daughter Chloe with 17 designer gifts for her 17th birthday.
• Porsha’s Divorce Drama with Simon:
  • Used the same attorney from her 2013 divorce from Cordell.
  • Filed for divorce to protect her assets after learning Simon was dishonest about his green card status.
  • Simon refuses to communicate with her.
  • Porsha realizes she was "love-bombed" and deceived.
• Tea & Drama Between the Ladies:
  • Shamea defends Porsha against rumors.
  • Drew rumored to be dating Dennis.
  • Porsha & Shamea hit a strip club; Simon is allegedly still chasing Porsha and her friends.
• Shamea’s Lavish Birthday Bash:
  • Held at Stirling Hall.
  • Guests include Cynthia, Angela & Charles Oakley, Kenya, and more.
  • Husband gifts her a $430,000 Rolls-Royce Cullinan.
  • Porsha arrives late and faces confrontations about her past relationship with Simon.
  • Kelli directly questions Porsha about "taking another woman’s husband."
• Watch What Happens Live (WWHL) Recap:
  • Porsha updates on her divorce—Simon is detained in Georgia.
  • She describes Angela as "sneaky," Kelli as "loud but soft," and Britt as a "ball of fun."

Transcript

Wendy (00:00.642)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever. I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:03.474)
I'm Kelly.

Gina (00:04.68)
Cousin Gina.

Wendy (00:06.582)
We are doing, we do, we got Cousin Gina back, we are doing Real Housewives of Atlanta, season 16, sweet 16, episode number one. It's called Welcome Back Peaches. I am so glad after two years they are finally back. I, yep, two years.

Kelli (00:06.856)
We got Gina back.

Kelli (00:24.05)
It's been that long?

I did not watch the last season.

Wendy (00:29.218)
Yeah, it was worth the wait. I'll say that.

Gina (00:31.249)
Why it sure was, but was there a reason that they waited so long?

Wendy (00:36.002)
They were, well they switched up to cast a lot. There was a lot of switching up going on.

Kelli (00:39.955)
I think they had to figure out what they were gonna do. And I think I only watched half of the first episode because I ran out of time, but I think what they did is gonna work.

Gina (00:42.406)
Yeah.

Gina (00:49.849)
it's worth the wait.

Wendy (00:50.462)
I think so too. Yeah, I think so too. So the first thing we see is Porsche's back. She has filed for divorce. Her and Pilar are still living in the marital home. And basically she says that there was financial and trust issues with Simon. She did not know that he did not have his green card. she did. Yeah, I believe that. I do believe that. Like she, you know.

Kelli (00:51.857)
It was worth the wait.

Gina (01:12.72)
She said she was still in love with him.

Wendy (01:18.84)
Got hoodwinked, I guess.

Gina (01:20.45)
She said the only reason that she had to file for divorce was there was a prenup and in order for something to click in the prenup she had a file and I'm guessing that was the division of assets and such because there's been rumor he's getting sued and you know owes money and I'm sure he

Kelli (01:40.041)
Well that's what I was going to say, does he just not have as much money as she thought he had? Or he said he had?

Gina (01:45.668)
I think everything about him is a fake.

Wendy (01:45.998)
I do too. I don't even know what was Drew to be honest.

Kelli (01:48.135)
Yeah. Okay.

Wasn't he supposed to be like, know Shemia is actually married to like a prince or something, right?

Wendy (01:57.294)
No, no, no, no, no. No, she just said that jokingly. He's an HVAC. H-B-A-C, I swear. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Gina (01:57.323)
Mm-mm. No.

Kelli (02:01.691)
Okay. Come on, really?

Gina (02:05.155)
He actually works for a living. He made his money the real way. He worked his butt. He does like industrial HVAC airports and such.

Kelli (02:11.731)
So is

Wendy (02:15.501)
Yes.

Kelli (02:15.623)
Okay, because I was gonna say, so my dad did HVAC too, and don't get me wrong, my sisters and I grew up very, very fortunate. We were very, very blessed. My father, I mean, we were spoiled. I did not live in a $9 million house though. I did not live in a $9 million house.

Wendy (02:28.866)
Did you have a $9 million house though?

Gina (02:34.286)
But it's probably because your dad just didn't want to, you you grow and then you don't get to spend time with your children. He did the right way, yeah.

Kelli (02:45.097)
I'm just saying, Shemeah must bring some cash flow to the table in this marriage, if they're living in this.

Wendy (02:53.71)
I don't think so. No, no.

Gina (02:54.85)
She said her job was a singer, an actress, a dancer, a host. None of them make money.

Wendy (02:58.818)
Yeah. Host. Yeah, she's it.

Kelli (03:02.833)
Okay, I'm gonna make you laugh. So she said that she's known Drew since TLC, the biopic, which I watched because I'm a huge TLC fan. And I knew Drew played T-Boz in the movie, but I'm like, well, Shemeah was in that? So I looked it up and at first I'm like, damn, Shemeah played Pebbles? No, Shemeah played the other pregnant girl.

in the movie because one of the, Chilly gets pregnant by Dallas and there was another girl pregnant by Dallas and Shemeah was the other pregnant girl. I'm like, okay, cause if she played Pebbles, like that was a big role in the biopic.

Wendy (03:46.602)
when she was the other. that's.

Gina (03:48.266)
Okay.

Gina (03:53.324)
Well, she is a good actress because she is not the same person I remember as, you know, Portia's best friend. Like she seemed a lot more subdued and just to be there, shoulder to cry on a best friend. Yeah, they went out and had a good time, but it's like all of a sudden you give her a paycheck. She's going to give you your money's worth.

Kelli (04:00.243)
Yeah.

Wendy (04:14.402)
Well, she's... Listen, she was only a friend of... Apparently they'd offered her full-time position many times, but her husband didn't want it. Her husband did not want it. And I don't blame him.

Gina (04:18.069)
Yeah.

Kelli (04:22.427)
really?

Kelli (04:26.003)
That's it, because she was friends with Candy too, like legit friends with Candy. Yeah, I agree, because listen, how many marriages have we seen fall apart from being on The Housewives? So I don't blame the guy.

Gina (04:26.391)
I would do whatever my husband wanted.

Wendy (04:30.861)
Yes, yes

Gina (04:36.927)
Yep. It's not that kind of a sacrifice that you need to make. She's, you know, he's not keeping her from earning a living. He doesn't want to expose their family to that. And, you know.

Wendy (04:37.003)
Exactly.

Kelli (04:41.417)
Mm-mm.

Wendy (04:42.048)
No, I agree.

Wendy (04:52.142)
Yeah, Dolores was saying she was recapping it and she was saying, Paulie does HVAC, like he's not doing it right then, I guess. I was like, so.

Kelli (05:01.533)
mean, listen, we also live in New Jersey. Yeah, and we live in New Jersey and, you know, obviously $9 million is $9 million, but a $9 million house somewhere in New Jersey isn't gonna be as big as that house.

Gina (05:02.187)
Well, she said it was industrial, too. Yeah.

Gina (05:17.622)
That, I couldn't believe it when they said that house was $9 million. That's a $40 million house down here, up here.

Kelli (05:21.0)
Right.

Exactly, exactly. So it's all relative.

Wendy (05:25.911)
Yeah.

Gina (05:28.211)
Yeah, Sterling Hall.

Wendy (05:30.314)
Yes, that's the name of her house. And that's what Cynthia said. She's so, what did she say? She's so rich she doesn't even have an address on the invite. It just says Sterling Hall.

Kelli (05:39.177)
I wonder if you put that in your GPS if it brings you there

Gina (05:40.36)
You know, I-

Gina (05:44.282)
for her. really am. I've always liked Shemeah. I think and I like her from this episode. I like that she's really come out of our show, whatever it is, she's really given it to us.

Kelli (05:45.598)
Yeah.

Kelli (05:56.893)
And it's funny, I didn't really like her before, but she didn't do much and I just felt like she was just there to have, know, Portia's back and you know, but I really liked her this episode. I'm glad they gave her a peach.

Gina (06:00.893)
She didn't do much.

Gina (06:13.523)
Yeah, me too. There's only one person that I'm not crazy about. And that is Kelly, the waffle lady. my God. I never wanted chicken, chicken and waffles so much. Have you ever had chicken and waffles? So all somebody has to do is say those words and I salivate.

Wendy (06:15.264)
Yeah, I'm... Yeah, I'm...

Who's that?

Wendy (06:23.392)
Okay, Kelly. Yeah.

Kelli (06:23.859)
Damn. Yeah.

Kelli (06:30.631)
Yes.

Wendy (06:31.246)
Yes

you

Kelli (06:36.669)
You know, Joe played all-stars baseball when he was younger and one year it was hosted at Trenton. And let me tell you something, the snack stand was not much to look at, but the food that came out of that snack stand was so damn good and they had chicken and waffles and they were damn good. Yeah.

Wendy (06:49.07)
Thank

Wendy (06:54.882)
There you go. So a little bit about Shemeah. She's got a five-year-old daughter named Shay and a 15-month-old daughter named Shiloh. Yes, she was born premature by a surrogate. Yep.

Gina (07:04.936)
who was born by surrogacy.

Kelli (07:08.098)
I didn't know it was by a surrogate.

Wendy (07:11.958)
Yep, and her and her husband have been together for 10 years. This is funny though, the first time she went to his house, she marked her territory. Did you hear that story? That was the funniest.

Kelli (07:20.354)
my gosh.

Yeah, and they were like, Shemeah, can you keep it short? And then they were flashing how long it was taking her to say the story. That was so funny.

Wendy (07:27.758)
When she said she went in the bathroom and the symphonies went off, I was like, well, he has a bidet. And then when she, I was like, no, she blew up the bathroom.

Gina (07:30.732)
God.

Kelli (07:42.215)
He was performing the symphony.

Gina (07:43.379)
She said right before that that they're laying in bed at 430 in the morning and all of sudden her stomach started growling. So he said, go ahead and use that bathroom. I would have hunted down another, you know that house, whatever house he had before that one, I'm sure had more than one bathroom.

Wendy (07:57.422)
What?

Kelli (08:01.285)
I think I would have taken a little stroll myself and put a little distance between it. But hey, it worked for her.

Wendy (08:09.422)
That was so funny and so real. I love that she told that story. I love that.

Gina (08:11.61)
Yes!

And that's what I really like about her. Like they worked for what they have or he did it, you know, whatever. It doesn't, you know, it doesn't matter. But the fact that he made his money on HVAC versus hedge funds and all that stuff that to me, I don't know, just, they deserve it. They do. They deserve everything they have. Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (08:27.144)
Hmm.

Wendy (08:32.44)
Yeah.

Kelli (08:34.185)
It's like honest work. He's an honest, yeah, I like it. I'm happy to hear that.

Wendy (08:39.094)
And they've been together for 10 years. the next we see is Drew is still going through the divorce with Ralph. And it's messy. It's messy. He's court ordered to stay in the basement. I can't imagine. Drew has to leave.

Gina (08:50.641)
Can you imagine?

Kelli (08:53.499)
Eric stays in the basement and we have no court order.

Gina (08:55.537)
I wonder if there's a separate entrance like in my house. We do have an outside entrance, but you wouldn't want to use it. But you have to walk through the house, you know.

Kelli (09:00.681)
Probably.

Wendy (09:04.287)
Yeah. Yeah. They probably do, but she has to leave every first, third, and fourth, like, weekend or whatever so that he's alone with the kids, which is crazy.

Kelli (09:06.493)
They probably do.

Gina (09:14.896)
Yeah, why can't she just send them downstairs? Like that's her residence. Did she?

Wendy (09:18.766)
I know, right?

Kelli (09:20.103)
Yeah. Yeah, like, unless it's like a mother daughter, he's got to come up and use the kitchen and...

Wendy (09:27.448)
Yeah.

Gina (09:28.452)
Does she did she get the permission to film in the house? Remember she was talking about that.

Wendy (09:33.186)
Well, it's her. Did Porsche get it?

Gina (09:37.303)
No, Drew.

Wendy (09:39.03)
No, Drew has permission because she's okay. Yeah, yeah, it's it's Porsche that had to get permission. And that's the reason she was late to the party is because she had to film beforehand and she couldn't film at her house. So her getting ready was someplace else because she's working on getting the permission. anyway, her Ralph and Drew have to communicate through this app.

Kelli (09:42.249)
Kenya was there talking to her, right? That was her kitchen.

Gina (10:02.029)
Okay.

Wendy (10:08.213)
which the judge sees and he says all these stupid things in the app and the judge is gonna see this stuff. he's really not that bright. He's really not.

Kelli (10:16.617)
That's with every divorce now when there's child custody involved that I know of people. Yeah.

Gina (10:21.955)
Yeah, Jeff Lewis has to use it too. He said they just stopped because they both like pissing each other off. So they don't use it anymore.

Wendy (10:29.686)
Yeah. Yeah, I mean.

Kelli (10:31.965)
But yeah, the judge has access to all of that. It's all discovery.

Gina (10:36.141)
Yeah.

Wendy (10:36.322)
Yeah. And then we find out that Drew is partnered up with Dennis, Portia's baby daddy, and he's her producer now, producing her music, which I didn't, I thought he did hot dogs. I didn't know he did music.

Kelli (10:51.439)
Some transition from hot dog to music producer. I mean, we should all make, we should all pivot like that.

Gina (10:52.652)
Yeah, yeah. And like...

Gina (10:59.276)
Like Kenya said, then how come he didn't help Portia when she did her song?

Wendy (11:04.567)
I don't know.

Kelli (11:04.668)
I didn't even know Purrshah had a song, I mean they showed the video. She looked great in the video, I'm sure that was auto-tuned out the ass, but-

Gina (11:06.494)
I didn't either. Yeah. She always looks great. Any of us could sing with autotune.

Kelli (11:15.035)
Right. Right.

Wendy (11:16.982)
I don't know about any of us, Then we meet Kelly, who's a single mom of four daughters. Four? Yeah. A 17-year-old, an 11-year-old, and eight-year-old twins. She should be divorced in two months, and she was married for 11 years. That's tough.

Kelli (11:19.175)
Auto tune.

Kelli (11:43.623)
Yeah, so her younger three, three youngest are from this father.

Wendy (11:45.825)
Yes.

Wendy (11:49.452)
Yes, and all she really said was that the police were called several times and it became unsafe. So we don't know what that's all about, but I'm glad she's out. And I'm glad that she, is, yep, she's the owner of Nana's Chicken and Waffles and seems to be doing very well for herself. She is messy. She's gonna be messy. So she has.

Gina (12:01.099)
And this is the waffle lady.

Kelli (12:02.984)
Yes.

Gina (12:09.746)
messy. She's gonna be messy.

Kelli (12:14.855)
I really had high hopes for her because she spells her name the way I do.

Wendy (12:18.911)
I know you did. I know you did. Yeah, no she was actually.

Kelli (12:20.691)
I'm like, please don't be an asshole.

Gina (12:23.807)
Yeah, sorry.

Kelli (12:24.627)
We'll see. We'll see. I didn't get to the part where we'll get, you guys will tell me.

Wendy (12:27.978)
Yeah. So she, you saw her birthday party for her daughter, her 17th birthday. So she's giving her 17 designer bags, which was...

Kelli (12:38.441)
Mm.

Gina (12:39.253)
That was a bit much.

Kelli (12:40.839)
That was a lot. Dior, Chanel, what were the other ones? Those were the two that popped out to me.

Wendy (12:45.262)
I mean Gucci Gucci. Yeah, I mean

Gina (12:47.595)
Unless you bought them on the street corner, that's too much.

Kelli (12:48.947)
Gucci. Well, I was thinking that like probably not, but they could be knockoffs.

Gina (12:56.31)
Do you follow the Birkensteeler or whatever his name is? There's a guy on Instagram that exposes everyone and I'm gonna go look tomorrow to see if he exposes us. He exposes who has fake bags. I don't know how you do that on TV. You can't really get that good of a look at it, but,

Kelli (13:06.8)
yeah.

Wendy (13:06.837)
okay.

Kelli (13:11.049)
excellent.

Kelli (13:15.044)
No, you really can't.

Wendy (13:17.614)
Well, maybe that's the obvious ones, you know, because some of them are obvious. It's not even, yeah, yeah. So then we find out Portia is going to the same divorce attorney that she went to when she got divorced in 2013 from Cordell. And yes.

Kelli (13:19.633)
Yeah, some of them are obvious.

Kelli (13:35.273)
to it was. I'm like, I'm like she would never marry Dennis and Pylora is not that old. I couldn't I forgot about her first husband when she started the show. He was a little he was a little jerky, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Wendy (13:45.974)
Yes, the football player. he was very jerky.

Gina (13:46.026)
First season.

Gina (13:52.244)
Yep, she accused him of being gay.

Wendy (13:56.846)
don't know she accused him of that or that those accusations were made. I don't know that they came from her. it did.

Gina (14:01.117)
no, it came out of her mouth on the

Kelli (14:03.945)
after they weren't. yeah, because Peter had like a man crush on him, didn't he? Because he was what, ex NFL? Yeah, Peter was all up in his.

Gina (14:06.931)
I think it's just season went on, yeah.

Wendy (14:13.836)
He's a football. He was NFL while they were married. He was a current NFL player while they were married. And she said that, you know, that she was going to meet with the attorney because she felt the need to protect her assets. And like you said, she couldn't, she couldn't, she couldn't, well, she, couldn't protect her assets and the prenup couldn't kick in until she had filed. So, and I don't blame her for doing that. And then

Gina (14:14.749)
Yeah, the football player.

Kelli (14:19.963)
Right. Right.

Wendy (14:43.554)
They had to put in for an immediate injunction because he's saying that he doesn't want her filming in the marital home. So we just have to wait and see because that's in the process of happening in the very beginning.

Kelli (14:56.475)
I was gonna say, is he allowing his daughter, but it's not his daughter. And I'm sure Dennis is fine with her filming with their daughter, because she has before.

Wendy (15:00.812)
It's not his daughter, right?

Wendy (15:06.58)
Right, right.

Gina (15:09.394)
But as we know that can stop at any time. Remember how Mark jerked Kenya around?

Kelli (15:14.606)
Ugh, Kenya. That guy was such a douche.

Wendy (15:18.606)
I don't think she's still not divorced, right? Because that came out in this episode too. Yeah, she's still married. Yep, that divorce is not finalized. Yep.

Gina (15:23.464)
She said they're still married.

Kelli (15:26.183)
Kenya?

Gina (15:30.568)
You know what? It sounds like he really is a gold digger. Mark, Mark D'Elli or whatever his name is. That's how it's coming across on TV, whether he is or not. Yeah.

Kelli (15:31.667)
That's wild.

Kelli (15:37.261)
for sure. For sure.

Wendy (15:40.216)
Yeah.

Kelli (15:42.876)
I totally agree with you.

Wendy (15:45.076)
Yeah. So then we see Shemeah meets up with Kelly and Brittany and they're talking about, Porsche going through the divorce and you know, how, you know, Shemeah is saying how Porsche is really going through it. And this is where Kelly jumps in and says, well, she took that other woman's man. And yeah.

Gina (16:08.26)
messy. But wait a minute. think failing was already pregnant. somebody else when they split up.

Kelli (16:17.417)
I think you're right, because I was trying to, because I do think I, I think that might have been the last season I watched.

Gina (16:23.686)
failing for some reason on Instagram. That's the only reason I know this. Yeah, but

Kelli (16:28.125)
Yeah. So she was pregnant with someone else's child and then they were getting.

Wendy (16:28.33)
Okay. Okay. That will that.

Gina (16:33.088)
When she split up, yeah, I mean, before they split up, they were already split. You know what I'm saying? They just hadn't announced it or filed. But I believe she was already pregnant by this other man. And I don't think there was any at that time any issues with failing. don't think she really cared because she was moving on with her boo.

Kelli (16:39.311)
Right. Right. Right.

Wendy (16:39.616)
Yeah.

Kelli (16:53.873)
Right, exactly.

Wendy (16:54.068)
Right, Yeah. know, Shemeah says that she's known Porsche since they were children. So since they were young and you know, not to believe everything that you read in the blogs.

Kelli (17:07.005)
Yeah, I don't think Shemeah was the right person for Kelly to bring that to. I mean, I understand that's who you're out with, but that's her best friend. Yeah, of course. mean, you know, but listen, Kelly's coming out the gate hot, so.

Wendy (17:10.971)
No, no.

Gina (17:13.349)
That's your best friend. You know she's gonna tell her.

Wendy (17:17.088)
Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, she's messy. She is messy.

Kelli (17:24.137)
just trying to.

Gina (17:24.143)
With three new people, she has to outshine the other two new ones.

Kelli (17:28.019)
That's right. That's right.

Gina (17:30.82)
Because that's a big cast.

Kelli (17:32.709)
It's a big cast. Okay, I have a question, but I'll wait.

Wendy (17:35.256)
So then the ladies are saying that they heard through the grapevine that Drew and Dennis are dating.

Kelli (17:41.683)
That was crazy. Because we saw Drew tell Kenya that I'm working with him and even Kenya thought that was bad enough. Like she's like, does Portia know? When she said they were just working together. So if word on the street is that they're booed up like they said.

Wendy (17:47.352)
Right.

Wendy (17:51.777)
Right.

Wendy (17:56.066)
Well, because of course...

Gina (17:57.782)
Of course the rumors are going to start no matter what's going on.

Kelli (18:00.678)
Yeah.

Wendy (18:00.992)
Right. Just if they're together, that's what the rumors are going to be, you know? And then we see Porsche and Chamea go out to unwind and they go to a strip club.

Kelli (18:04.658)
Right.

Kelli (18:13.725)
see? I didn't get to that part yet. I'm turning it on to students. Yeah, male or female, it doesn't matter. Okay, I'm here for it.

Wendy (18:15.126)
You missed it.

Gina (18:17.582)
There was a lot of booty shaking.

Wendy (18:19.906)
Female. It was female.

Gina (18:26.66)
I admire how these women can dance. I watch a show on stars called P Valley and I watch this show to watch these ladies dance because they're friggin amazing. They go from the top of the pole and they drop and I'm like, holy crap. I have a hard time getting out of my recliner. I just, it's amazing. It's amazing. God bless these women. They deserve every penny they get. That's hard work.

Wendy (18:36.398)
Yeah.

Kelli (18:38.409)
They're amazing.

Kelli (18:53.049)
I agree. I agree. Shake it if you got it. It is hard work.

Gina (18:56.385)
Yep.

Wendy (18:58.028)
Yeah, so Shemeah tells of course that Simon texted her this morning. So why is he texting Shemeah?

Gina (19:08.331)
Mm-hmm. And why Shemeah answering him? Yeah. And, and...

Kelli (19:09.131)
Shamia said he's-

Wendy (19:13.182)
Well, we don't know what she answered him, though. What did she say?

Gina (19:17.921)
Yeah, she said it. She said he congratulated her on getting the peach and she said, hey bro, it was supposed to be the four of us. And that's what Portia said. You shouldn't be hey bro in him at all. And I agree. You don't respond or you, you, you text Portia and say, Hey, what should I do?

Wendy (19:22.765)
that's right.

Wendy (19:26.998)
Right, that's right.

Wendy (19:31.702)
Yeah, that's right.

Wendy (19:40.024)
Yeah.

Kelli (19:41.095)
Yeah, we don't need another Dory and Kyle and PK text menage-a-trois on our hands. Please, for the love of God, don't make this a storyline.

Wendy (19:45.054)
my gosh, no we don't. no. No. No. Then Shemeah tells her that Dennis and Drew have been hanging out and...

Gina (19:45.514)
No, that's...

Gina (19:59.934)
something about a birthday party like yeah Dennis birthday party for Drew and everybody's saying well why didn't you invite me she says I didn't invite anybody it was a surprise party I just gave Dennis's assistant some phone numbers but he didn't they didn't call anybody that I gave them so then Portia this is the last second saying why are you giving your list for your birthday party to Dennis's assistant

Wendy (20:00.002)
You know, she... Whose birthday party?

Wendy (20:17.1)
Right.

Wendy (20:29.134)
Right.

Gina (20:29.673)
You know, so that's where they left it off. Hopefully this will be a nothing thing and it won't be a storyline because I really liked Drew. I liked Drew and she's going to get crucified if she does anything.

Kelli (20:36.967)
I think this is gonna be something.

Wendy (20:42.83)
I'll be honest with you, I think it's gonna turn well. So Cynthia was on two tees with Tamara today and they were talking about this whole story, the Drew thing. Cynthia said that Drew said that no, it was nothing like that. She said the ladies are still pushing but Drew is maintaining that it was just professional. It was not anything more than that. So I don't think we are gonna see anything else.

She's gonna maintain that and you know, the rumors are gonna be whatever the rumors are gonna be. But I can't imagine that Drew would go after Dennis. I mean, first of all, Drew.

Gina (21:20.434)
No.

Kelli (21:20.713)
can't imagine that Dennis would do that because I actually like Dennis. I always liked Dennis and I can't see him. I mean, he's got a daughter with Portia. He knows who Portia is. Like he should know.

Gina (21:24.062)
he's...

Gina (21:32.231)
It's a storyline. gets him on the air. Yeah. Because if not, he's only going to be on in relationship to Portia's child. And I think Dennis always liked the fame. I want to go to his hot dog place. I love hot

Kelli (21:35.301)
It does get him on the show.

Wendy (21:36.622)
Well.

Kelli (21:43.057)
Yeah.

Kelli (21:49.895)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (21:52.302)
These guys are funny. So then we see, now it's the night of Shemeah's party and we see Portia's on FaceTime with Cynthia. She's getting ready. I guess she's someplace else getting ready. And Cynthia's giving her, she's giving her all the tea that she knows and they're kind of exchanging tea as to what's going on. Kelly arrives at the party a little bit early and Shemeah tells her, listen,

Gina (21:56.799)
you

Wendy (22:21.566)
I told Porsche what you said about her going after someone else's man. And she's like, well, that's OK. I'll deal with that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It is.

Kelli (22:34.375)
You gotta own it.

Gina (22:35.868)
You gotta own it. You gotta own it.

It's the truth. did she go? You know, it's a good question. maybe what I don't think Portia should have given her the time of day because who the hell are you? But say it was Kenya or something, someone like that asking her, you know, well, listen, this is what the timeline was.

Wendy (22:58.998)
Right, right. So then Cynthia arrives at the house and she's the one who calls it out that there's no address. It's just Sterling Hall. And when the reason you thought that Shemeah's husband was a prince is the producers ask her, you know, where did all this money come from? And she said, well, my husband is an African king. And she's like, now I'm only kidding. He does HVAC.

Kelli (22:59.155)
Right.

Kelli (23:22.985)
I thought it was from past seasons that she said it. So funny.

Wendy (23:26.592)
No. No.

Then we see Angela arrives with Charles Oakley. It's so funny.

Kelli (23:34.249)
Aw. He's the old Nick. I know, he aged very well. I mean, I was always a fan because he was Nick, but.

Gina (23:35.838)
man that man is hot.

Gina (23:43.438)
I love men with gray hair. I'm telling you, even when I was young, me and my husband's like five years older than me. never liked men my age. I always liked the old men. And he's hot.

Kelli (23:45.763)
Mm-hmm. He aged very well, Charles Oakley.

Kelli (23:58.397)
He looks good, Charles Oakley.

Wendy (24:00.321)
Yes.

Gina (24:00.644)
I don't even know who he is. played basketball.

Kelli (24:02.409)
He was a New York Knick. He played for Knicks. think 10 years, 11 years.

Wendy (24:03.842)
Yeah. Yep.

Wendy (24:08.492)
Yeah. Then Cynthia is talking to Kelly and she's finding out about, because Kelly's shading Porsche right there to Cynthia. I guess she doesn't realize that Cynthia is friends with Porsche. Britt and her husband, Michael, arrive. What do you think about that? Like we didn't really get to meet him too much, he's a little off.

Gina (24:30.871)
Yeah, but he was like, why is she saying that? Why did she say that? What does somebody asked her something inappropriate? I forgot what it was.

Wendy (24:41.878)
I don't know, guess we're gonna have to wait and see.

Kelli (24:43.549)
He gave off a gay vibe to me. I didn't see the scene you're talking about. Just the picture that they showed of him and her. I'm like, like he looked more like her gay best friend.

Wendy (24:45.762)
Yeah, that-

Gina (24:46.937)
That I didn't get, yeah.

Wendy (24:51.712)
yeah

Wendy (24:55.438)
That's what's all over the internet too. That's what's all over the internet too. Yes

Gina (24:55.555)
Like, and what does he do for a living? Really?

Kelli (24:59.869)
really?

Gina (25:01.275)
Tell me, you see, I didn't pick up on that.

Kelli (25:03.482)
I swear I had no idea.

Wendy (25:05.196)
No, I know you didn't and honestly when I saw him I thought the same thing and then when I was scrolling Yeah

Kelli (25:09.523)
Yeah.

Gina (25:10.414)
But look at the ring she got out of it. You know, listen.

Kelli (25:13.385)
Yeah, exactly. Whatever works for them.

Wendy (25:15.916)
Yep. Yep.

Gina (25:17.432)
Listen, now that I'm a widow man, I would love a rich gay man. He have his own room upstairs. I got my room down here. Take me out to dinner and buy me diamonds.

Kelli (25:21.256)
That's right.

Wendy (25:22.222)
There you go.

Kelli (25:24.765)
Yeah. Yep.

That's it. That sounds, that sounds heavenly.

Wendy (25:30.616)
Yes.

Gina (25:32.683)
It really is. really is. It would be. mean, you they don't, you know, so.

Wendy (25:37.196)
Yeah. So we also find out that Angela and Drew are both from Chicago and they share the same hairstylist. So yeah, so they have a little bit of a history too. Then Kenya gets there and that's when we find out that she is still not divorced, which really does blow my mind because I don't even know. That's got to be.

Kelli (25:49.321)
Kelli (26:02.003)
crazy.

Wendy (26:03.532)
It's gotta be, let's see, they've not been on for two years. It's gotta be four years, five years probably. Yep.

Kelli (26:08.147)
That's what I was thinking about five years. Yeah.

Gina (26:08.416)
I bet you it's five. I mean, the marriage didn't last that long. The marriage lasted six months.

Wendy (26:13.397)
No.

Kelli (26:14.035)
I don't even think it lasted a year, did it? Yeah, exactly.

Wendy (26:16.652)
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. So everyone's there and they're all dressed in white. And then we see Shemeah comes down in her beautiful blue ensemble. She looks beautiful. She really did. And they call her outside because there's a surprise for her. And the surprise is for her birthday, her 42nd birthday, by the way. This is not like it's you know,

Gina (26:30.252)
Beautiful.

Kelli (26:45.618)
milestone.

Gina (26:45.944)
She said I didn't have a party last year. So that's not her 40th. That was a 41st. Yeah.

Wendy (26:46.444)
milestone.

Right.

Kelli (26:51.059)
for 41.

Wendy (26:52.59)
Right, this is her 42nd birthday. Yes, yes. And it is a Rolls Royce Cullinan, Cullinan? I don't know how to pronounce it, but whatever, however you pronounce it, it's $430,000. That is some birthday present. Yeah, that is some birthday present.

Kelli (26:54.353)
You poor, poor baby.

Gina (26:54.904)
you

Gina (27:03.512)
Yeah.

Gina (27:10.475)
More than my house.

Kelli (27:12.199)
Yeah, me too, probably.

Gina (27:15.777)
That's like buying somebody a house. But did he buy it or did he lease it? I hear a lot of times when you see that on reality TV, they just lease it for six months a year. Like somebody else had a Rolls Royce. Was it Kenya?

Kelli (27:18.057)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (27:21.384)
Right.

Kelli (27:26.173)
Yep. Yep.

Wendy (27:28.216)
Yeah.

Wendy (27:31.914)
No, it was New York, Jenna Lyons. it was just, she just borrowed it. Mm-hmm. Yeah, she just borrowed it for a scene. So as she's about to get into her new car, that's when Porsche rolls up. And that's why she was late, because where she was. And everyone was giving her a hard time, because she is her best friend.

Kelli (27:39.411)
Borrowed it.

Kelli (27:43.571)
for a scene and then gave it back.

Gina (27:46.913)
That's ridiculous.

Gina (27:59.743)
rightly so.

Wendy (28:00.94)
Yeah, and she did show up late. She should have definitely timed that better. I thought she may have.

Kelli (28:04.711)
Or get ready at Shamiah's house. I'm sure there's an extra room there you could have used.

Gina (28:07.189)
But it doesn't matter whether you were late or not. It was making the entrance and disturbing, yeah, disturbing her getting her gift. Like you walk in late, you kind of sneak around behind the crowd. Like somebody said, pretend you were there the whole time.

Wendy (28:08.257)
Yeah.

Wendy (28:13.76)
At the time, right. Yes.

Kelli (28:17.644)
okay.

Right. Like Mary Cosby looking through the window.

Wendy (28:21.355)
Right, exactly.

Gina (28:27.635)
or Kathy Hilton walking into the factory show.

Kelli (28:29.194)
my god. Be discreet, ladies.

Wendy (28:30.902)
Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, so Portia apologizes to Shemeah and she accepts her apology, you know, and then she comes out in her second look, which was this beautiful gold dress. Yeah, yeah. And then we see Kelly and Britt are talking to Portia about taking the woman's husband and Kelly asks Portia directly. And she's like, who are you?

Like, who are you? What is your last name? I don't even know who you are. Like, why are you asking me this question?

Kelli (29:10.109)
Yeah. And why do you think I'm going to tell you anything?

Gina (29:11.349)
Portia was right in how she, yeah, I totally back up everything Portia did and said.

Wendy (29:17.494)
Yeah, 100%. I wouldn't have asked. I mean, who are you?

Gina (29:19.176)
No. And Brit, Brit, is that the one that I think that's the one that Kenya has the issue with later on? That's the one that can't that Kenya did their.

Wendy (29:27.791)
is it Brit? Okay. Okay.

Kelli (29:32.713)
pictures.

Wendy (29:33.462)
Yeah. So she's... it just said Gina's... okay.

Gina (29:39.989)
Somebody was calling me, apologize. No, somebody was calling me. Yeah, I just hung up on him, but he's gonna call again.

Kelli (29:42.291)
Did you end it?

Wendy (29:51.522)
It said it stopped recording. guess it's recording again. Yeah.

Kelli (29:54.536)
I hope so.

Gina (29:58.932)
I don't know how to shut that off.

Wendy (29:59.052)
Yeah, well, that's all right. Can you put, you know how to hit do not disturb?

Gina (30:07.071)
It's my home phone. He's coming. Yeah.

Kelli (30:10.285)
and it's coming through the iPad?

Gina (30:12.309)
Yeah. My home phone is forwarded to my cell phone.

Wendy (30:13.446)
that's weird.

Wendy (30:18.614)
Interesting. So anyway, so Porsche doesn't answer her as she shouldn't because, you know, she doesn't know who she is and she's not a part of this whole group yet, you know? Right. And then Sheme asked Drew if she's dating Dennis. And yeah, right there with everybody there. And, but that's where it ends. don't, you know, we don't really.

Kelli (30:32.487)
Right, as far as Porsche is concerned.

Kelli (30:40.529)
In front of Porsche?

Wendy (30:48.258)
Doesn't go any further at that point. Portia was on Watch What Happens Live. Did you happen to watch that,

Gina (30:56.774)
No, I haven't seen that yet.

Wendy (30:59.072)
So her current status is she's still married and he is detained in Georgia. Yes, yes.

Gina (31:06.853)
in an immigration facility. That's a big change from living in that nine-bedroom mansion.

Kelli (31:10.569)
Wow.

Wendy (31:13.59)
Yes. Yes.

Kelli (31:15.603)
So he was here illegally or no?

Wendy (31:19.348)
Yeah, didn't. Yeah, yes, his green card was not legit. We don't know. To be honest with you, we don't really know. We don't really know. Because it was rumored that he had bought the green card or he had a fraudulent one or he had paid off somebody. And this had gone back a while ago. This was well before she met him. So he had this whole

Gina (31:19.386)
over state is visa, right?

Kelli (31:21.339)
Okay, okay. So he came properly. He just did not maintain it. We don't know.

Gina (31:30.043)
Everything is so fishy.

Wendy (31:47.462)
history that she knew nothing about.

Kelli (31:49.778)
Right.

Gina (31:50.504)
But I followed the both of them on Instagram and they traveling back and forth to Africa and stuff. Like they had a wedding there. It's like he has not been in the United States this whole time. He's as a passport has been flying around.

Wendy (31:53.506)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (31:59.337)
Yeah, so he must have a-

Wendy (32:08.074)
Right. I don't know what alerted ICE to this or whatever happened, but whatever happened it did. And what she was saying that that was the straw that broke the camel's back was the betrayal. She's like, I didn't realize that he had love bombed her. And when I heard that, I was like, yeah, that's what they do though. That's what these guys do. That's what these con artists do.

Gina (32:29.159)
It's horrible.

Gina (32:33.414)
Portia really deserves happiness.

Kelli (32:33.597)
I know, but you know what? I agree and I like Portia, but let's be real. Portia saw some dollar signs. So she's not that, you know, she's not the babe in the woods. She's...

Gina (32:53.041)
But Kelly, when you have money like Portia has money, because don't forget she has direct TV money, because she does a daily radio show forever. Yeah. She's got cash. Uh-huh.

Kelli (33:01.097)
that's right. I forgot about that.

Wendy (33:03.468)
And her grandfather had money, like she came from money.

Kelli (33:07.121)
no, I know, I'm just saying she's not gonna just go date anybody. Yay.

Gina (33:09.382)
She's got to be careful who she was with. Yeah. You know what? You can love a rich man easier than you can a poor man. If you're going out to look for somebody and you've got the lifestyle she has, I agree that she should be looking for someone of equal wealth.

Wendy (33:12.323)
Yeah.

Kelli (33:27.869)
Well, yeah, because if not, if she did just date anyone, somebody she met at the food store or something, you have to wonder what their intentions are. If I were a reality TV star and had some bank, I would always wonder if the person I was with was really with me because they liked me or because they knew who I was.

Gina (33:35.215)
for you.

Wendy (33:51.553)
Absolutely.

Gina (33:51.896)
Or the money could cause issues, like he could feel threatened. It may make him feel less of a man. You just don't know it, you know.

Kelli (33:56.029)
Sure.

Kelli (33:59.399)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (34:00.524)
Right. So she also says on Watch What Happens Live, Angela is sneaky. Kelly is loud but has a softer side and her and Kelly are oil and water. Like they do just don't get along. No, Kelly and Portia.

Gina (34:02.758)
Thanks.

Kelli (34:16.573)
Wow. Kelly and Portia.

Gina (34:16.676)
Kelly and Angela.

Gina (34:21.253)
Kelly and Portia. yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's her fault. But like I said earlier, she's got to make a name for herself. You've got three newbies.

Wendy (34:22.274)
Well, because Kelly started out by coming for her. Right.

Kelli (34:24.55)
Exactly.

Kelli (34:30.225)
Right, right. But it doesn't sound like Portia like really dislikes her. just sounds like they just don't, they don't, they don't, you know.

Wendy (34:37.61)
Yeah, no, she's no. Right, right. They don't, right. They don't mesh. Like they're not, you know, they're not going to be besties. And Brit is good. She's a whole ball of fun is what she said about Brit. So, and Cynthia had good things to say about, you know, everybody too, that it's a, I love Cynthia.

Gina (34:38.466)
You have to have a feud.

Kelli (34:45.683)
Right.

Gina (34:55.895)
Cynthia likes everybody. And that's what's so great about Cynthia.

Kelli (34:57.385)
She does. Yeah. I think it's gonna be a good season. I don't think, I... Yeah. I think that even though there's these little beefs, I think it's, well, up until I guess the point with Kenya. Well, who knows what's gonna happen between, I mean, somebody done pissed Kenya off if she's posting pictures up of somebody giving oral sex, right?

Gina (35:04.269)
She's only a friend, right, Cynthia?

Wendy (35:06.337)
Yes.

Gina (35:21.153)
Well, that's Brit. She posted pictures of Brit giving oral sex to someone. So, but so Kenya gets kicked off, but now you have Phaedra coming in. She replaces her immediately. Huh?

Wendy (35:32.781)
Right.

Kelli (35:33.659)
I think he's gonna be back too. I think Kenya's gonna be back.

Wendy (35:38.916)
she's gonna be back. No, because they...

Kelli (35:40.199)
Yeah, I don't think Kenya's gone for good. Listen, there's been housewives who've done much, much worse and come back. That's right.

Gina (35:40.245)
I think so.

Gina (35:47.383)
Phaedra Parks. I mean, you know how I feel. feel Phaedra should never have been allowed back on Bravo. Yeah. Right. But if Phaedra did that to me, if I was, if I, if I was Candy, I would have sued this shit out of her. She, she wouldn't have been able to say or do anything. I would have had her mouth spit shut.

Kelli (35:53.582)
I totally agree with you. know Wendy's a big fan and I like, I think Phaedra's good TV. I agree.

Wendy (35:56.899)
I am.

Kelli (36:04.643)
Absolutely.

Kelli (36:10.823)
Yep, I totally agree with you. That's crossing the line. That's crossing the line.

Gina (36:12.544)
Yep.

Gina (36:16.275)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Kelli (36:18.299)
I mean... Yeah.

Wendy (36:18.304)
I agree. I agree. I'm not going to say you guys are wrong, but I do like her. I she's very, I think she's good TV.

Kelli (36:24.049)
Yeah, she's good TV. She's

Gina (36:26.818)
She's good TV, yeah, but I mean, you know, there's lines and you know, my lines are weird. I like to me, a good housewife has to be humble. That's my number one thing. I have to see some humility. Like look at Erica Jane. She has shown so much humility, not when it first happened, but after that, you know, and I really, really have a lot of respect for her. And I don't see that with Phaedra Park.

Kelli (36:30.493)
There nobody

Kelli (36:57.075)
now.

Gina (36:57.153)
Zero humility.

Wendy (36:59.896)
You know, I was.

Kelli (37:00.135)
I do think Kenya will be back though.

Wendy (37:03.042)
I do too. I was listening to Heather McDonald today and she was talking about, she had Zach Peter on, and she was talking about Andy Cohen possibly taking a step back. That's the rumor.

Gina (37:20.993)
That must, I didn't finish her podcast today. Why is he taking a step back?

Wendy (37:24.022)
Yeah. Well, she has her own theory. Her own theory is perhaps someone's pressuring it to happen. And he'll still do the reunions, but maybe not do Watch What Happens Live. And she is questioning Andy to not give up Watch What Happens Live. Don't allow somebody else to do it. Like, don't do it. Or they

Kelli (37:51.677)
I mean that was his.

Gina (37:52.531)
Well, you know, she's got a problem with Andy and Andy's got a problem with her.

Wendy (37:56.054)
Well, she did say, what she said is, you know, I don't know why I'm giving him such good advice. I've only been on his show two times. Like he should, why though? What was it about, you know?

Kelli (37:56.061)
Bye.

Gina (38:02.578)
He pretty much blacklisted her.

Kelli (38:04.765)
Why?

Gina (38:06.909)
No, but I know when Chelsea Handler was on Howard, she told Howard that Heather McDonald was calling the press to drop stories about Chelsea. And if you've ever, know we all have, when somebody accuses you of something that you didn't do, there's no way to defend it. How do you prove that you didn't, you know? And that was her problem. And she has just pled for years.

that that's not true, that she never called the press.

Kelli (38:38.505)
So you know Heather MacDonald used to be on Chelsea Handler's show. I used to watch Chelsea lately. Every night.

Gina (38:41.958)
Yeah, right. And this was afterwards because she actually got another show through there that never took off. But it was after that and Heather was shocked when she heard Chelsea say that on Howard. Yeah. So because of that, know, that's a whole cabal, Howard, Andy, all those guys, you know.

Wendy (38:43.414)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kelli (38:59.475)
Wow.

Wendy (39:07.086)
Mm-hmm.

Gina (39:08.626)
You get blacklisted from one, you're blacklisted from them all. he had her on one time and now forget it. mean, Jeff Lewis is Andy's guy and Heather and Jeff had that very public feud. So no, this was years before. So who knows? I mean, Andy should really be his own person and he really should look Heather McDonald.

Kelli (39:08.798)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Kelli (39:21.149)
Yep. Yeah.

I actually thought that's what it was gonna be about.

Okay.

Gina (39:37.103)
I mean, she could bring a lot to a Housewife franchise or use her in some other way. You know, give her an interview show. What was that show that Brandi and Julie used to do? People's Couch, something like that.

Kelli (39:40.934)
Yeah.

Kelli (39:50.023)
Yep, yep. I mean, basically that's what she's doing.

Wendy (39:51.106)
Mm-hmm.

Gina (39:55.387)
Yeah.

Wendy (39:56.782)
I think she's doing fine on her own. Like, I don't think... Yeah.

Gina (39:59.235)
Yeah, she's got no boss. She's her own boss.

Kelli (39:59.645)
Yeah.

Wendy (40:02.989)
Right.

Kelli (40:04.211)
I think that maybe Andy is taking a step back because I was just thinking about this the other day, it's so funny. There were a lot of accusations against him, remember? I really thought he was gonna get canceled. And I don't like using that word, because I don't really agree with when people are canceled, but I really did. So maybe the Liam McSweeney thing went away.

Gina (40:13.254)
and bravo.

Wendy (40:18.776)
Right. I thought so too. I thought so too.

Gina (40:26.908)
Well, no, they did an investigation and they came out with a news release. Bravo said, we have done an investigation and we have found that we were not able to substantiate that he did anything wrong.

Kelli (40:39.919)
Right. But maybe there's something else out there that we don't know about yet. And maybe that's why.

Gina (40:45.049)
Yeah, they could, somebody could be suing him personally, but if he didn't step down then, I don't know why he would step down now. It could, I hope not, because I love Andy.

Kelli (40:48.104)
Yeah.

Kelli (40:52.455)
unless it's something bigger and worse. I hope not too, I'm just thinking. Cause I was just thinking the other day like, wow, all that stuff about Andy, like I really thought that was it for him. And he's still here.

Wendy (40:54.679)
Yeah.

Wendy (41:06.264)
He's still standing. Yep, he's still standing.

Gina (41:07.267)
Listen, Andy, Andy got a spot here. He could marry me. He could move in, whatever he needs. He's welcome. I can cook. I can make the best eggplant parmesan you ever ate.

Kelli (41:15.933)
We come from a long line of good cooks, Andy, if you like to eat.

Kelli (41:22.995)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Wendy (41:23.47)
And Heather was also saying because of his children, you he's got his two small children and you know, but he could still do it. he, you know, so I don't know. We'll wait.

Kelli (41:29.372)
Yeah, I mean...

Gina (41:33.732)
Do you really want to be home with little kids all day long?

Wendy (41:37.858)
I don't know that it's so much that, yeah, I don't know that it's that he would just be staying home with them. And again, I don't know that he's still not gonna be producing. And like I said, he'd still be doing the reunions and there's still other things he would be doing. He just would not be doing, he said that.

Kelli (41:38.554)
I, I did not.

Gina (41:40.891)
Yeah.

Gina (41:54.714)
Didn't he step back from a lot of the producing years ago though? Like five, six years ago?

Wendy (41:59.95)
Mm.

Kelli (42:00.413)
Yeah, I mean, he's not involved in anything other than Housewives. Like, he doesn't do below deck, he doesn't do anything like that. He's just strictly Housewives, from what I understand from how he speaks.

Wendy (42:10.261)
Yeah, he doesn't use

Yeah, he doesn't do Southern charm either.

Kelli (42:14.917)
No, no, he does the reunions, but he's not producing any of those. So.

Gina (42:17.399)
Yeah.

Wendy (42:18.496)
Right. Right.

Gina (42:21.881)
Well, he's great with the reunions. And I've seen him do reunions on shows he doesn't have any, like the Kardashians. Didn't he do a reunion with them? Yeah. He's good at reunions.

Kelli (42:29.277)
He did do that, yeah. He's good on the reunions, but he's got his people that he does not push nearly as much as he should. Teresa, Kyle, he just doesn't push them like he should. Push the questions, I mean, not physically push them. Even though Teresa physically pushed him. Season two, reunion. But he doesn't, he doesn't, you know.

Wendy (42:31.02)
Yeah.

Wendy (42:45.71)
I heard.

Gina (42:47.03)
Yeah, no, I agree with you.

Theresa physically pushed him.

Wendy (42:51.372)
Physically pushed him. Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (42:58.141)
But he also, I will say this, because I always bring it back to Jersey and everyone knows how I feel about Teresa. I don't think, I felt like I remember some people saying that he was hard on Melissa on one of the reunions. I never think he's hard on, I mean, you can tell he absolutely loves Joe Gorga. I totally agree with you, who doesn't?

Gina (43:20.139)
Who doesn't? Yeah. And that's the only reason she's still on the show.

Kelli (43:25.499)
I think you might be right, quite honestly. I mean, I love Melissa and I wouldn't, I don't think I'd watch it without her on, without her and Joe. But I think that, but Andy's feeling towards Joe does keep her pretty secure in her spot.

Gina (43:33.215)
I feel the same way.

Wendy (43:43.374)
we're just gonna have to wait and see what happens with Jersey. Because he said, there's no decisions being made. Do not believe anything unless it comes from me or Bravo. And that's what I say all the time. Anytime I see something out there, I'm like, no, this isn't... Andy didn't say it. He's been saying that. Well, he said there wouldn't be an announcement until 25. And now he's saying...

Kelli (43:55.173)
Nah. Nah.

Gina (43:57.045)
Well, now he's saying 26, right? He said 25.

Wendy (44:08.654)
I don't know if there's not gonna be an announcement until 25 or the show won't come out until 26. You know what I'm saying? Because even if they announce it in the summer, that's still not gonna come out until 26.

Gina (44:18.848)
They would have to be casting now because they have such a long lead time from casting to filming.

Kelli (44:21.086)
Right.

Wendy (44:26.338)
Well, I think they have been casting. think that that's the, you know, I think that's where they're at. Like it has.

Gina (44:31.798)
They were down casting in Cherry Hill. They were going to do a Real Housewives of Cherry Hill.

Kelli (44:38.966)
They have to put Alicia D. Michelle on this show. She was a mob wife from Philly. She lives in Medford.

Gina (44:41.815)
Who's that?

Gina (44:46.198)
The Mob Wives show with the Big Ange. I only watched one season of that. I don't know who she is.

Kelli (44:48.903)
Yeah. Yeah, but she was from Philly.

Let me tell you, I fucking loved that show. all of a sudden, it's all, clips are all over my social media. I must have said out loud recently, I miss Mob Wives because every time I go on any social media outlet, there's clips of Mob Wives on. I wish they'd bring it back. I love Drita, I loved Carla. that's what I meant to tell you guys. I listened to Renee Graziano on Coffee Talk.

Gina (44:58.518)
I love the first season.

Wendy (45:06.734)
Thank

Kelli (45:22.621)
that podcast. It's good. It's short. It's good. She's in recovery. She's doing well. Her sister's the one who started the show. She created the show.

Wendy (45:29.1)
Yeah. Yeah. I've listened to that podcast. I like it.

Gina (45:33.749)
was Karen Gravano that started it.

Kelli (45:35.877)
No, was Renee Graziano's sister. Karen was always, Renee didn't know she was gonna be on it until right before they started filming.

Wendy (45:36.3)
No.

Gina (45:38.581)
okay.

I saw Karen... I thought Karen did that.

Kelli (45:49.093)
No, but if they do a South Jersey Real Housewives, they have to put Alicia DeMichele on. I love her.

Gina (45:55.144)
Well, if she lives in Medford, that's right near Cherry Hill.

Wendy (45:55.212)
And Dorita.

Kelli (45:57.893)
Yeah, they're right next door.

Wendy (45:58.316)
Yeah. And Dorita's friends with Daniel Cabral.

Gina (46:03.56)
Wait, but you know what? They won't because Andy was addressing why he's not putting Snooki on. Because everybody's pushing Snooki, Melissa and all of them. And he said he would never cast anybody on Housewives that was on another reality show. So he probably wouldn't put somebody from Mobwives on.

Kelli (46:18.631)
I don't blame him.

I don't think Snooki's a good fit for Real Housewives of New Jersey. I love Snooki, but she has to stay where she is. That show is so good. It's so good, the Jersey Shore family vacation.

Wendy (46:26.349)
I don't either.

Gina (46:36.923)
That's, you know, your generation, my generation, that was the worst thing that happened in New Jersey. Yeah, but see, you're that age group. So I understand why you like it. To us, none of them were from Jersey. It was giving a bad name to the shore. But you know how I feel.

Wendy (46:44.748)
No, we love it.

Kelli (46:46.033)
We love it. We love it.

Kelli (46:52.425)
You know what, they were the last.

Kelli (46:57.587)
They were the last generation to benefit from the club scene in Seaside. And that to me was like a rite of passage. Like it makes me sad that my kids aren't going and experiencing the club scene in Seaside.

Gina (47:02.385)
Yeah.

Gina (47:11.89)
there's no more clubs in Seaside.

Kelli (47:14.035)
There's Hemingway's, Beachcomber's up on the boardwalk. But I mean, was a, there was a strip. You went from one to the other, to the other, to the other. I mean, the summer.

Wendy (47:16.046)
It's not a club. Yeah, but those aren't clubs.

Gina (47:19.154)
Yeah.

Gina (47:23.462)
See, I lived in North Jersey and we went to Seaside for the beach, but for the clubs we went to Asbury. We went to the Stone Pony, the Fast Lane, all those places. I forgot the other places. that art place, Asbury. Asbury, the boardwalk was nothing. It was horrible. It was really bad. But Asbury had a thriving club scene. Because you know, you talk of Bruce, Southside Johnny.

Kelli (47:30.354)
Yeah.

Kelli (47:40.766)
Yeah.

Kelli (47:49.127)
Yeah. yeah.

Gina (47:52.205)
All those guys were coming up through those clubs.

Kelli (47:55.687)
Yeah, no, Seaside was the place to be. The summertime was just, you just walked, know, went to the clubs, walked around. So, so fun. Got dressed up, met all your, you know, Nicky Norks from up North Jersey. Kissed them goodnight, never saw them again.

Gina (47:59.899)
Yeah.

Wendy (48:11.63)
You

Gina (48:12.232)
we used to go to the surf club. That was our place.

Wendy (48:15.544)
There you go.

Gina (48:17.185)
Your mom met your dad at the beach.

Kelli (48:20.804)
at the circus car hop.

My parents met at the circus car hop. Yep. No, my father was driving his, I'm sure he had a Corvette at this point. He always had a Corvette. Driving around, he drove in a circle around the circus car hop and my mother was probably showing some leg.

Wendy (48:27.374)
Were they both dining there?

Wendy (48:32.238)
I'm sure he had a Corvette.

Gina (48:32.74)
probably driving up and down.

Yeah.

Gina (48:40.898)
Your mom was, she was hot back then. I'll tell you, I used to look up to my older cousin and just like, my God, she's so beautiful. I want to look just like her.

Kelli (48:43.635)
Nope.

Kelli (48:51.249)
and they called her legs.

Gina (48:53.454)
Great, she still does, she still has great legs.

Kelli (48:55.15)
I know and luckily for me she passed them down.

Gina (48:57.998)
Yep. That was the one thing I didn't get from our side of the family. I had the short stubby legs.

Kelli (49:04.489)
Well, none of us are tall.

Gina (49:08.555)
No, there's not a tall one in the bunch. We didn't stand a chance. Donna's five foot five. She's the tallest one around.

Kelli (49:10.683)
No, Donna. and,

Yeah, and Uncle Frankie's daughters are tall.

Gina (49:19.321)
They were taller. Yeah.

Kelli (49:20.617)
To all of you.

Anyway.

Wendy (49:24.398)
All right, so I don't have anything else on Atlanta, so until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Thank you for joining us, Gina.

Kelli (49:32.604)
Yeah.

Gina (49:32.757)
It was a pleasure. I'd love coming and chatting with you ladies anytime you need me, give a call.

Kelli (49:36.999)
Absolutely. Yeah, next week.

Wendy (49:38.58)
Okay. Yep. Bye.

Kelli (49:41.481)
Bye.

Gina (49:41.727)
Bye bye.