RHOP-12 Hours After the Verdict: The Fallout Begins-Summer House S9E1: Uncharted Territory Recap

RHOP-12 Hours After the Verdict: The Fallout Begins-Summer House S9E1: Uncharted Territory Recap

Summary

In this episode of We Wine Whenever, Wendy and Kelli discuss the emotional turmoil surrounding Karen's absence from the Real Housewives of Potomac reunion, Wendy's evolving friendships, and the personal growth she has experienced. They delve into the dynamics of support among the cast, Jassy's upcoming wedding, and the ongoing divorce proceedings of several cast members. The conversation also highlights the drama surrounding Mia's birthday party and the implications of friendship and loyalty within the group. In this conversation, Kelli and Wendy discuss the latest developments in reality TV, focusing on reunion episodes, the dynamics of 'Summer House', and the implications of Lindsay's pregnancy announcement. They delve into the relationships of the cast members, particularly the evolving connection between Jesse and Lexi, and the complexities surrounding Craig and Paige's breakup. The conversation highlights the impact of social media on personal relationships and the narrative control exerted by reality TV producers. In this episode, Wendy and Kelli discuss various aspects of relationships and reality TV, including the awkward dynamics between cast members, rumors surrounding breakups, and the future of popular shows. They reflect on the impact of casting decisions and the personal lives of reality stars, while also sharing their travel aspirations and thoughts on the evolving landscape of reality television.

Takeaways

• Karen's emotional struggles are evident during the reunion.
• Wendy realizes the true nature of her friendship with Karen.
• Wendy feels liberated after resigning from her position.
• The dynamics of friendship are complex and often challenging.
• Jassy's wedding plans bring excitement and curiosity.
• Divorce updates reveal personal challenges among the cast.
• Mia's birthday drama showcases issues of loyalty and support.
• Wendy's strong presence can be intimidating to others.
• The importance of honesty in relationships is emphasized.
• Next week's episode promises more revelations and drama. There are likely only two episodes for the reunion.
• Jaclyn's pregnancy is a topic of discussion.
• Summer House's filming timeline is interesting.
• Lindsay's pregnancy announcement was dramatic.
• Carl learned about Lindsay's pregnancy via Instagram.
• Craig and Paige's breakup is being manipulated by Bravo.
• Jesse's feelings for Lexi are developing quickly.
• The dynamics of reality TV relationships are complex.
• Social media plays a significant role in personal announcements.
• Bravo's narrative can complicate real-life relationships. Navigating relationships can be awkward, especially in reality TV.
• Rumors can significantly impact public perception of reality stars.
• Breakups in reality TV often lead to speculation and drama.
• The dynamics of casting can influence the direction of a show.
• Fans have strong opinions about the relationships of reality stars.
• Reality TV often reflects real-life issues and emotions.
• Travel plans can be a source of excitement and anxiety.
• Friendship dynamics are crucial in reality TV settings.
• The future of reality shows may involve a mix of old and new cast members.
• The truth behind reality TV stories often unfolds over time.

Transcript

Wendy (00:00.93)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever. I'm Wendy. We are talking about Real Housewives of Potomac Season Nine Reunion, Part One. We start out with December 20th, 2024. 12 hours after the verdict, they interview Karen at her house. And while they're doing that, they're intermittently putting in the

Kelli (00:03.345)
I'm Kelly.

Wendy (00:29.538)
body cam footage, which was so hard to watch. They're asking her questions, how she's doing, she's crying, and she looks like hell wearing her hat. She doesn't care about herself, she says she's worried about her children. I mean, I get that.

Kelli (00:33.69)
It's hard to watch. It's hard to watch.

Kelli (00:51.164)
which is true. mean, listen, we make mistakes, we make decisions, we answer for them, but it's how it affects your family that's the hardest part.

Wendy (01:01.322)
Right. Absolutely. Absolutely. Then we see the ladies getting ready in their dressing rooms and they're talking about Karen. If they've seen Karen, there's no Karen's name on the dressing room doors. At this point, they don't know what's going on. Then they all get out there and Andy starts it out with the elephant in the room is Karen is not coming.

and she has checked herself into a private recovery center. Those are his exact words.

Kelli (01:34.17)
It did seem like nobody knew whether or not she was coming. It did seem like they were all surprised that she was not coming.

Wendy (01:37.966)
Yeah, they were. They definitely were. Karen, Ashley said she had a feeling Karen wasn't going to be there. So she brought that picture of Karen. Yeah. And then on 12-27-24, Karen does her video to the ladies and

Kelli (01:54.685)
That was funny.

Wendy (02:05.952)
She said that she is addressing her taking antidepressants while drinking and that she's going to be seeking help for that. And that she wanted to give a special thank you, first of all, to Giselle, that what the note she wrote in her flowers meant a lot to her. And then her girl Kay and Jazzy all sent her, you know, special notes and

Kelli (02:35.442)
Candice who's not even on the show anymore

Wendy (02:37.289)
Candice, yes, who's not even on the show. And then she said, well, and there's one other really special person and I thought it's gotta be Wendy. And he's like, Andy Cohen. I was like, oh.

Kelli (02:46.684)
Me too.

Wendy (02:51.47)
I was shocked. think everyone up there was stunned that there was no mention. Yeah, that there was no mention of Wendy. And then Andy says to Gisele, see you're crying, know, why? And she's like, well, you know, as much as I hate her, I love her. And, you know, she's going through a lot, which I get that. I definitely get that.

Kelli (02:53.224)
Stunned. Stunned.

Everyone had the same reaction.

Kelli (03:14.674)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (03:20.974)
Then also she said at the end of the video that she's going to be coming back as Karen, not the Grand Dame, which I did think that was interesting. And that's who she should be coming back as.

Kelli (03:35.72)
Well, let's see if she's coming back at all. But if she does come back, it will be nice for her to come back as Karen Huger because Karen is enough.

Wendy (03:37.612)
Yeah.

Wendy (03:44.3)
Yes, yes it is. Then Andy asks Wendy, you know, how she felt about that way and about that, you know, apology, how she wasn't mentioned. And she said, well, after she found out from Stacey what Karen was saying behind her back, she certainly felt a way about their friendship. And based on what she's heard and seen from others, Karen is not her friend.

I agree with that 100 % and I feel bad for her that she had to come to this realization this way.

Kelli (04:17.126)
Me too, but did you see like Ashley was like, damn or something like what did you what did you expect her to say? She's absolutely 100 % right. That is not her friend. And apparently you and Giselle have been telling her that for years. So why are you so surprised that she just said it?

Wendy (04:24.631)
Right.

Wendy (04:33.966)
Right. Right. And Giselle said, you know, I told you who Karen was. And Wendy said, well, I didn't see it for myself and I didn't trust your ass. Which I get because her and Giselle were not in a good place.

Kelli (04:51.172)
No, because Giselle and Robin tried to put it out there that Eddie cheated on her. Which, you know, was all Robin because Robin was deflecting because Juan can't keep it in his pants. But Giselle co-signed it, she went along with it, so why the hell would Wendy ever trust her? I mean, I'm so glad they're in a good place now because that did make for a good season, those two getting along.

Wendy (04:54.968)
Right.

Wendy (05:02.509)
Right, exactly.

Wendy (05:13.078)
I agree. I totally agree. Andy brings up the body cam footage and said the viewers had a lot of comments about that, a lot of anger and concern and betrayal.

Kelli (05:28.296)
Especially the guy who lost somebody to a drunk driver, right? He said, I hope you go to jail. That was a lot.

Wendy (05:32.844)
Yeah. But it's true, you know, it's true, it's true. Then he brings up the fact that Wendy and Gisele made up and that the relationship is in a new place. I liked that Andy asked Wendy that, he said to her, seem a little bit different this season, a little bit lighter. And she said, yeah, resigning from her position and having to fit the

Kelli (05:37.266)
Sure. Yeah.

Wendy (06:02.626)
conforming to the idea of what a professor should be. She felt that weight lifted off of her so that she could really just be herself. And I can imagine that when you're in a school like that and, you know, they expect you to act and behave and do things a certain, yes. And she's like, you know what, I don't want to live my life like that.

Kelli (06:17.96)
stress.

Kelli (06:23.078)
Might, nor should she have to. She's clearly a very accomplished woman, Wendy. She's very smart, but she's also very attractive and, you know, is on a reality TV show and, you know, let her live.

Wendy (06:34.146)
Right.

She regrets inviting Karen to the White House, which...

Kelli (06:40.634)
I was kind of surprised she said that because I almost thought she was going to be like, no, you know, like they all say, like, I don't have regrets, which I don't think they should have regrets. She certainly shouldn't have any regrets because at the time she thought that was her friend.

Wendy (06:55.86)
Right, but after seeing it, that's why she regrets it, you know? I get it. They ask her how Eddie's business is doing and he says it's booming. And Stacey salutes her husband's business and Giselle says, well, Stacey, aren't you trying to open up your own happy Eddie business? And Stacey's like, no. And she's like, well, weren't you talking to somebody and saying that you needed me because I was a celebrity?

Kelli (06:59.58)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (07:16.551)
Yeah.

Wendy (07:25.388)
And Stacy's like, no. Gisele says to Wendy, well, don't be surprised if she comes out with a happy Stacy. And you could see, and you could see Wendy's face like, what's going on? And Wendy then said to Stacy, well, if you're going to do this, you better not do it without telling me.

Kelli (07:33.404)
That would be really interesting.

Kelli (07:44.838)
Yeah, you could tell there was definitely something to that the way Stacey responded. Yeah.

Wendy (07:50.158)
100%. Yep. Yep.

And then the viewers were questioning Wendy about requiring her children to have a master's degree to get their trust fund. And I loved the way she explained it. She said, well, no, it's kind of, there's different stipulations in different levels. And if they get their master's degree, they get more. If they learn to speak their language, Ibu, they get more. If her daughter...

Kelli (08:04.572)
I like this.

Wendy (08:22.07)
joins her sorority, then they get another bonus. And everyone's like, that's a, and Andy's like, that's, yeah, Andy's like, I want to do this to get my kid to go to camp.

Kelli (08:23.9)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (08:28.264)
Amazing.

Kelli (08:33.029)
so

Have you seen the videos, right, of him like driving, what's the son's name, Ben? Yeah, driving to and the kid is just not, it's like when I used to drive Joe to the Wimmer Beach camp. He hated it, he hated it. Every time I see one of those videos, I think of that.

Wendy (08:39.202)
Talking to Ben? Yeah, my gosh, so funny.

Wendy (08:55.736)
They're so funny. I love watching those videos and listening to him talk to Ben and Ben, you know, trying to reason with his father. They're hysterical.

Kelli (09:03.088)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (09:09.422)
Wendy tells Stacey that Karen warned Wendy about Stacey, that she had never told her that before. And she said that Karen said to me, got to watch out for Stacey because she's very educated and she's very smart. And Giselle said, she is? I'm like, Giselle, like really?

Kelli (09:26.578)
That was shady. That wasn't nice.

But that's such a dig to the other women. Giselle's educated and very smart. Giselle, where did she go? Howard? Howard University, I think she graduated? I mean, come on.

Wendy (09:47.724)
Either Howard or Brown. I don't know which one. Right. But still. Right.

Kelli (09:49.788)
Yeah, like, yeah, like what are you saying, Karen?

Wendy (09:55.822)
Yeah, but what is Giselle saying? I mean, Stacy's like, I'd have a degree. You know what mean?

Kelli (09:58.394)
No, I agree.

Yeah.

Wendy (10:05.802)
Then they go on to say, which is true, that Karen takes the new girl under her wing. so Stacey says, so you know then I met her at Tally Ho. And they're like, no, no, we don't doubt that for a second. And Kay jumps in and she's like, well, I have a different place in my heart for Karen because she was there for me. And she looked after me, you know, because she went to the hospital with her when the fight happened. And she did. No, she definitely did.

Kelli (10:27.046)
Yeah. Yeah. And she did. We saw it.

Wendy (10:36.322)
I think it was Giselle that warned her. Yeah, it was Giselle. She said, listen, Kay, she mothers you. And if she can mother you and kind of control you, that's a different relationship. Because I definitely remember her doing that with Ashley. And they did cut to some clips where she's been talking to the new girls. And that is her MO. That's what she does. And because Kay was calling out Stacey for not revealing it until...

Kelli (10:54.802)
Yes. Yes. Yes.

Wendy (11:06.05)
Karen had turned on her. Well, when she, why, why she, right, she didn't know. She was just getting to know the girls. Like she just, you know.

Kelli (11:11.41)
Why would she otherwise?

Kelli (11:16.071)
Right.

Right, because once it happens to you, you're like, okay, now there's a pattern.

Wendy (11:24.886)
Right, right.

Kelli (11:26.344)
So why bring it up before that?

Wendy (11:28.224)
Exactly. And then they kind of end out this segment with them saying that Wendy's hard to, you know, it's hard to be friends with Wendy. And Wendy says, listen, it takes a strong woman to be friends with me. When I walk into a room, it's like God sent me there. And that is true. She has a presence and she walks into the room like she owns it. And a lot of women are threatened by that. And I totally get where she's coming from. And good for her.

Kelli (11:46.696)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Kelli (11:57.444)
Absolutely. And why would she want to be any different than that? Women strive to be like that.

Wendy (11:58.53)
She owned it, right?

Right. Yes, they do. Yes, they do. Then we come back from a break and Jassy comes out and Andy congratulates her on her upcoming wedding and asks her she has a date for her wedding. And she's like, actually, I have an invite if you want to see it, which I was very surprised.

Kelli (12:22.14)
Now did she give him the invite to invite him to the wedding? I was kind of confused.

Wendy (12:25.678)
No, gave it to her. She gave it to him so they could see it and to see that there was a date, what the date was. And then Andy said, all the ladies here invited? And she said, yes. So, you they'll all be invited.

Kelli (12:31.527)
Okay.

Kelli (12:42.96)
Okay. I like Jassy. I hope they bring her back. Like I want to see more of Jassy because just like Rebecca on New York, like they heavy focused on the fact that, you know, her man had a baby while he was dating her with somebody at like, who cares? Like, okay, you got it out there. That's part of her story. Great. But let's not hyper focus on it because it's not, they don't care. So why do we care?

Wendy (12:59.394)
Right.

Wendy (13:08.846)
They don't care. She lets us know that Darius is playing for the Dallas Cowboys. But I didn't like the way she answered the question that the viewer had about her being the side chick. So the viewer said, you know, it seems to me that you were the side chick who made his man leave his family. And Jassy's response is, I'm not a side chick. And she said, I didn't know.

that he was with someone else. There was no pictures on his Instagram. And I'm just like, wait, what? And.

Kelli (13:41.192)
She did also come out and say that the other woman said that they weren't together.

Wendy (13:46.334)
So then you did know about the other woman. right? Like it just didn't add up.

Kelli (13:48.71)
I guess at some point.

Kelli (13:52.796)
Maybe she meant in the moment she didn't know about her. I guess at some point she found out about her.

Wendy (14:01.55)
Listen, I think the whole thing is shady. And I think she should have just owned it so that we could move on from it. Do you know what I'm saying? Because I don't feel like that happened. feel like if she comes back, it's going to come up again.

Kelli (14:05.66)
Yeah, I mean...

Mm-hmm.

I- Right.

Kelli (14:16.909)
it's totally going to come up again.

Wendy (14:18.722)
But if she just said, okay, yeah, I was the side chick, he chose me, you know, move on with it, then that would be done. Because the other baby was born first.

Kelli (14:24.518)
Yeah. Right. Right.

Kelli (14:31.772)
Yeah, so I think the older child was around already when she met him, but at some point after she met him and started dating him, another child was born by the same mom. So clearly there's some kind of relationship established here.

Wendy (14:42.282)
Right, but then... Right.

Wendy (14:49.366)
Exactly. Exactly.

Kelli (14:52.616)
Say you were on break. We were on a break. How about the shade to Mia though? You're a, what did he say to her? You're a, I didn't write it down. You're a professional side chick. Is that what he said? Something like that?

Wendy (14:54.656)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (15:03.192)
he did throw shade at her. Yeah, something like that. He did say that. He did. Yep.

Kelli (15:11.878)
they were all like, whoa!

Wendy (15:14.834)
So then Andy asks Ashley, do you know what I'm going to ask you? And she's like, am I still with Josh? And everyone's like, no. The same question. no, I knew he was asking her about her divorce. And everyone else is, yeah. So she says it's not finalized, but yesterday on her Instagram, it came out, divorce is finalized. So she, yeah, she did a whole photo shoot with her announcement.

Kelli (15:21.768)
I honestly thought that's what he was going to ask her too.

divorced.

Kelli (15:36.742)
Very cute pictures too of her reading a newspaper. Yeah.

Wendy (15:44.32)
She dropped it on the 17th and it was actually finalized on February 10th. Her actual divorce was finalized. She is getting child support, but not alimony because of her prenup and Stacey is getting the opposite. We don't know where hers stands though, because that question wasn't really asked. And Mia said that she is in the final stages also, but we haven't heard anything yet from Mia, so.

Kelli (16:14.184)
but they're all, every single one of them was like, I call bullshit when Mia said that. They were all calling bullshit.

Wendy (16:18.925)
Yeah.

Kelli (16:23.517)
So.

Wendy (16:25.976)
So then a viewer asks if GNA even sells clothes because the only thing on the website is pictures of Ashley and Giselle. And Giselle tries to explain it and she does a very poor job. She's like, well, we've pivoted to help the community and what? Right. Exactly. Exactly. So she didn't really answer the question. we're reaching out. so Mia's like, so you have like a

Kelli (16:44.476)
Yeah, but how? How?

Wendy (16:55.851)
a 501c3 like you have a charity and they're like no no we're just yeah we're just partnering with others what no it made no sense

Kelli (17:04.806)
Yeah, that made no sense. Yeah, because if you're giving back to the community, then you're not making a profit.

Wendy (17:12.438)
Right. And I don't think that they are. I don't think that they have an official charity. And I don't think that they're doing anything. I think, like she said, like that one thing that she announced, it was someone else's charity for brain tumor awareness or research or whatever it was for. Like the money was going there. It wasn't going to her.

Kelli (17:27.858)
Right.

Kelli (17:33.466)
Yeah, and when she was on Watch What Happens Live, one of the shady boot questions was who's a better business partner, Robin or Ashley? And she said Robin because that business is still going. She kind of said it right there. Yeah.

Wendy (17:42.528)
Right. Exactly. So then Andy is going to let Jassy go. But before she does, she says, wait, wait, I want to ask Jassy a question. What happened with Mia's birthday?

Kelli (18:00.2)
This was so good.

Wendy (18:02.028)
This was really good. Good thing I actually asked the question.

Kelli (18:05.082)
Absolutely, I mean, I think Stacey would have brought it up at some point, but it was perfect that Jassy was there to answer it because she was involved.

Wendy (18:15.884)
Yes. So apparently Mia invited Stacey and Jassy to a birthday party for her down in Miami.

Kelli (18:24.646)
And it was just the two of them, right? Nobody else was invited.

Wendy (18:27.86)
Nobody else from the group was invited. They both said that they would go. They were both supporting her. And they get down to Miami and they're texting Mia and she's not answering. And then they go to the dinner that was scheduled on the itinerary and they're there for an hour and Mia doesn't show up.

So they leave, I don't blame them.

Kelli (18:53.168)
and they said they sat there for an hour. Like, listen, if you're not answering me and then you don't show up for an hour, I'm leaving. Like, if I had heard from you at some point during the day, like, great, can't wait to see you, see you at dinner, I might have hung in there a little bit longer, just have some cocktails. I would have probably been half in the bag by the time you got there, but whatever. But for not hearing from her at all and then she doesn't show up after an hour, like, come on.

Wendy (18:54.829)
and

Wendy (19:21.42)
I know, I know. And then me is like, well, I reached out to the girls and they're like, no, you didn't, I didn't talk to you. Well, I sent you a text. What? No. So then.

Stacey's like, no, have proof. So she pulls up her text messages and she hands them to Andy. And it's a funny thing is Mia's like, well show me your proof. Well, are you that dumb? Mia, she had proof.

Kelli (19:50.236)
Yeah, like you saw, you know when she texts you, you fucking moron.

Wendy (19:52.716)
I mean, I know, I know.

Kelli (19:57.788)
read texts all the time, I'm like, wait a minute, what did I say? Like, you know, me, I worry about everything. Like, I'm always rereading texts, like, to make sure, like, I didn't do anything wrong or, yeah.

Wendy (20:08.256)
Mess it up. Right. So Andy looks at the text message and he reads the text thread and it was clear that they said that they were coming. It was

Kelli (20:17.179)
He's like champagne, glass, clink clink, balloon.

Wendy (20:20.276)
Yeah. Yep. Yep. And then it even showed when she read the one message, there was even a read receipt on it.

Kelli (20:29.702)
Yeah, like come on, man, turn your fucking read receipts off. What you new here?

Wendy (20:36.696)
So then it comes out that the other ladies weren't even invited. And the ones that she does invite who agree to support her and show up, like ignores them. And then she starts crying. Then Mia starts crying. Well, that's... Wendy called her out on it. Wendy called her out on it. Yeah. Yeah, Wendy called her out on it. She's like, you know...

Kelli (20:49.64)
totally blows them off.

Kelli (20:53.916)
That's what she does though. And I'm glad they called her out on it. Yeah, because she does do that.

Wendy (21:06.062)
This is what you do when your back is up against the wall, you know? And she's giving her heart, she's like, these are the two you invited. You didn't even invite the rest of us. These two went down there to support you and now you're crying, oh, well, I was going through so much, there's so much going on in my life. So much that you can't pick up the phone or text somebody back, no.

Kelli (21:25.458)
Somebody said you were worried about ink. Something about worrying about ink.

Wendy (21:29.034)
Somebody said she was with ink or something. Right.

Kelli (21:31.524)
Right, but he must have been down there with her. Listen, he does not seem like the faithful type. He, I honestly personally think that he's with her right now for the clout to be on the show. And he's probably a dog and he's probably still messing around.

Wendy (21:50.638)
So is she.

Kelli (21:51.864)
Yeah, for sure, for sure. Well, she's still legally married, so yeah, either way she is.

Wendy (21:58.626)
Exactly. Or even though she says it's, you know, in the judge's hands. So after this whole thing comes up, Andy says goodbye to the side chick, Jassy. Then they go on a break and Mia goes into Stacey's dressing room on the break and she's crying and saying, you know, I've not been a good friend. And Stacey says, listen, it doesn't feel, you know, genuine what you're saying. And I just, can't receive it now. I know.

Kelli (22:25.608)
For her. Like, way to get a backbone finally, Stacey.

Wendy (22:29.462)
Yeah, I was glad that she stood up to her and honestly, that's my last note. I guess that's where we left it, right? Do you have anything after that? I mean, I think next week is going to be way better because we're going to find out about, you know, more about Stacey and TJ.

Kelli (22:34.47)
Yeah, no, no, no.

Kelli (22:44.392)
PJ are there only two episodes for this reunion?

Wendy (22:48.426)
I don't know. can't imagine that there'd be any more than two. Like what else?

Kelli (22:51.6)
I know, because we're already done with all the Karen stuff.

Wendy (22:55.008)
Right, like what else is there to talk about?

Kelli (22:57.254)
And Jaclyn hasn't, I wonder if Jaclyn comes out.

Wendy (23:01.568)
I don't know if Jackal, is she behind? yeah, she is behind me. She's pregnant, she's very pregnant. She's very pregnant. I think she does come out.

Kelli (23:14.482)
with the same guy with PP.

Wendy (23:16.814)
I would hope so, but you know, I saw that she was pregnant in the dress. And then when they were doing flashbacks, when Stacey was sticking up for Karen, when Jacqueline and Mia were throwing her under the bus, I thought to myself, Jacqueline's got a little belly there. So maybe she was pregnant there. I mean, I hope that was the case. I hope I didn't just body shame her. That's horrible.

Kelli (23:37.137)
must have been pregnant.

That's interesting.

Wendy (23:45.486)
She is a beautiful girl. Yes, yes she is. Yes, but she's pregnant. So I wonder why she didn't come out with you. Because maybe they'll bring her out separately because they're both friends of.

Kelli (23:46.256)
I don't think anybody seemed her. No. No. She's a beautiful, stunning, fit girl, so.

Kelli (24:00.994)
Yeah, probably. Well, they're probably gonna talk about the Mia, Gordon, know, fake he took the kids to another state and I don't know where they are storyline. So maybe they'll bring her out then.

Wendy (24:11.835)
Right. Yeah, I think that would make more sense.

Kelli (24:15.972)
Yeah, speaking of baby bumps, let's real quick talk about Summer House. And then let's real quick talk about Southern Charm because Sienna is a whole thing.

Wendy (24:18.848)
Lindsay? Yeah, let's talk about it.

Wendy (24:27.239)
yeah. Okay, so Summer House, we've got...

Kelli (24:30.836)
Lindsay's timeline, her rundown of what's been going on, like how she started on the show. I'm like, girl, like it was like, was it a half hour, 40 minutes? I mean, we thank God didn't have to sit there through that, but they kept showing the time and I'm like, oh my God, another fucking 10 minutes?

Wendy (24:43.71)
it was.

Wendy (24:49.678)
Yeah, yeah. It was a lot. It was a lot. It was a lot. I actually did take notes on Summer House, just the first one. I don't know that I'll be doing it again, but it started out two months after the reunion. They started filming.

Kelli (24:55.046)
Yeah.

Kelli (25:10.482)
Two months?

Wendy (25:11.542)
Yep, so May 3rd, 2024 was a reunion and then July 3rd was their first day filming. It was two months.

Kelli (25:21.072)
It's interesting to me that why would they do the reunion in May when they stop filming in the fall?

Wendy (25:26.914)
because that by the time it finished airing.

Kelli (25:29.768)
it has to air. I always forget that. I always feel like they do the reunion right when they're done filming. You're right, it had to air, duh.

Wendy (25:36.821)
It had to air and 2024, do we have Olympics? No, no, because that was in the summer. I don't know, but it ended in May. So May 3rd was the reunion and then two months to the day later. so Paige and Sierra are in the SUV going down together and Sierra

had done traders and so she didn't even really know what was going on, like wasn't in the loop of things because that's a three week commitment or it could be a three week commitment, but so far she's still on.

Kelli (26:05.512)
Right.

Kelli (26:08.944)
Right. Right. Right.

Kelli (26:15.12)
Is she still on, Sierra? Okay. Is Dolores? Okay. Sandoval.

Wendy (26:16.736)
Yeah, she's still on. Dolores is still on too. Yep. And so is Tom. Yep, Tom Sandoval is still on too. So then we see Amanda and Kyle, Jesse and West go down together in the car and they get there first and they go to clean the rooms and first they have separate rooms and then they decide they're going to room together. They couldn't get it together, but they did decide that they were going to room together.

We find out Jesse has a clean cancer check and he's excited for the summer. West is worried about Ciara because he has not seen her since. Yep. The day after the reunion.

Kelli (26:55.228)
He should be worried about Sierra. He shouldn't even fucking be there, Bravo, by the way.

Wendy (27:01.28)
Yeah, yeah, I don't I didn't really like him. I didn't really think he brought much to the the whole franchise, but

Kelli (27:08.422)
Well, the most endearing part about him was how infatuated with him, Sierra he was. Because after Austin, we just want to see this girl win for crying out loud.

Wendy (27:14.702)
Yeah.

Right.

Wendy (27:20.918)
Yeah, exactly.

Wendy (27:27.564)
He said that at the re- so he met with her after the reunion and she was saying like, you didn't even say anything. Like you said nothing at the reunion. He's like, well, I was caught off guard. And she's like, well, he's like, it's been seven months. I'm like seven months. I guess seven months since they broke up.

Kelli (27:46.92)
well, maybe when they met up after the reunion. So maybe by this time it was June.

Wendy (27:48.674)
Yeah.

No, but he's saying it's seven months in July since they broke up. So she should be at least cordial to him, even though, you know.

Kelli (28:02.61)
So they dated all the way through the new year?

Wendy (28:06.078)
No, seven months. No, yeah, yes, yes. So then the two new girls show up, Lexi and Bailey. Lexi is a model and Bailey.

Kelli (28:11.32)
November. That, okay, that makes sense. Okay, okay.

Kelli (28:22.408)
She looked very familiar. She looked so familiar to me. So now I don't know if I've seen her in ads. She's a model, right?

Wendy (28:25.165)
She did?

Wendy (28:32.31)
Yeah, it's possible. It's possible. And Bailey is a nanny and an influencer. She's cute. And Jesse and Wes give them a tour of the house. And then Amanda and Kyle arrive and Amanda knows Lexi because she's met her before at an event. And also Bailey, she's met before too. So then Sierra and Paige arrive and Wes is very nervous. You could see it.

Kelli (28:40.264)
She's cute.

Kelli (28:55.314)
Yeah, she knew barely,

Wendy (29:02.166)
You know, and Sierra goes up to him and is like, how you doing? And like pats him on the chest. Like, yeah. And she's just like, pats him. Yeah. And, she's talking about how when she got back from Scotland, I guess she was barraged with text messages because he had done a New York Times article. I didn't even know about that. He really is. He really is.

Kelli (29:08.402)
He tries to give her a hug, she bats his arm away.

Kelli (29:25.702)
He's such a douche. He's such a douche.

Wendy (29:31.916)
And I don't blame her, I would be pissed.

Kelli (29:34.48)
And any girl who dates him now is a bigger douche. Just stay away from him. Let him live a lonely, long life.

Wendy (29:41.698)
you. Stop being so mean.

Kelli (29:47.752)
He's such a douche though.

Wendy (29:51.905)
you're so funny. Then the boys are talking about if Carl and Lindsay will hug when they get there. And then they just say, they don't even go to weddings together.

Kelli (30:03.144)
Hug! Poor Carl, that was hard.

Wendy (30:04.046)
I know, and this is before, and they didn't even know yet at this point that Lindsay was pregnant. And then Lindsay and Gabby arrive and they meet the new girls and she's talking to Sierra how it feels weird to be back there, which I don't blame her, it would feel weird to me too. Jesse makes a shot for everyone and they all do a cheers and we find out that Carl's not coming till the next day. Amanda.

Kelli (30:10.29)
Right.

Kelli (30:20.882)
Sure, sure.

Wendy (30:32.084)
arranged for Private Hibachi to come to the house and did you see they're from New Jersey?

Kelli (30:37.564)
God, I wonder if it was the same people we had at the Veshe's.

Wendy (30:40.14)
I was going to ask you that. It said it on their back. It said something New Jersey. You'll have to. Okay, yeah, I'd be curious to see if it was. So, Sierra and Paige are sharing a bedroom. Gabby and Lindsay are talking about making the announcement. And because Gabby's in on it, she knows that she's expecting.

Kelli (30:44.36)
I'll have to rewatch it and see if it was the same company because I have it in my text who it was

Yeah, that's funny.

Kelli (31:05.339)
Yeah, you know what? Listen, Gabby, please stop being Lindsay's spokesperson. just let Lindsay do the crazy, ridiculous things that Lindsay's gonna do. You just stay out of it. Like, Gabby's like her lap dog.

Wendy (31:22.7)
Well, I mean, she doesn't have Danielle. So she has nobody really. mean, who's, mean.

Kelli (31:25.276)
Yeah, like, it's, you know.

Just, just, fuck it, if you wanna make an announcement, make an announcement. You gotta have Gabby go out and, by the way, Gabby looks fucking amazing though. The Pilates is working. But why does Gabby have to go out and organize this whole thing?

Wendy (31:37.016)
She does. She does.

Wendy (31:44.704)
Yeah, she's gonna organize the toast in the living room. Wes sits down next to Lindsay, asks if she was drinking. He said, everybody thinks that you're pregnant. She's like, yeah, I know, I saw it, like the tabloids. And then she starts with my personal journey and eight years. I'm like, my God, are you kidding? Like these poor, these poor girls, blah, blah, blah. And then she holds up the ultrasound that.

Kelli (32:05.872)
It went on forever. Yeah.

Wendy (32:13.354)
she's pregnant on the big poster board size thing.

Kelli (32:17.832)
think was a canvas. I think she had a canvas made up. Which, looking back, it's not a terrible idea. I kind of wish I had canvases in my, well guess I could still do it. I still got those crazy black and white pictures. I don't know. I'm not gonna do anything with it. Sure has.

Wendy (32:20.662)
my gosh.

Wendy (32:25.282)
Well...

Wendy (32:30.316)
Yeah, but I know what are you gonna do with it now? No, no, that ship has sailed. So she announced that she's 18 weeks pregnant, which that is very pregnant. And then they realized...

Kelli (32:47.248)
It's over four months. So when we're at the cup, like three month mark, we don't say weeks anymore. You could say months now.

Wendy (32:55.384)
Well, I think she was obviously trying to downplay it and she was pregnant at the reunion. So that's what they're like, wait a second, because the reunion was only eight weeks ago. It was only eight weeks ago. And I know that is crazy. And then she shows you what she did about drinking at the reunion. How funny is that? Yes, that's what Gabby said. She poured it down the drain.

Kelli (32:58.812)
Sure.

Kelli (33:06.886)
Yeah, that's crazy.

Kelli (33:16.978)
she pour it out, Kristal?

Kelli (33:22.492)
I mean, what are you doing?

You can't have it like that. You can't have it like that, where you're just pouring crystal down the sink.

Wendy (33:29.894)
No. No. So she says that her new man is a doctor. His name is Turner and he's not on social media.

Kelli (33:41.584)
And by the way, there were rumors out there that they broke up, but when she was on Watch What Happens Live, he was there with her.

Wendy (33:47.788)
He was there with her, but we didn't see him. And people are saying she put that rumor out there because Summerhouse was starting to get people.

Kelli (33:56.493)
makes sense. She would do that.

Wendy (34:00.608)
She would, because that's a PR thing to do and that's what she used to do. That's what she used to do. Yeah. Yeah. So I was like, makes perfect sense. So while there, then she goes upstairs and they're all outside waiting for the hibachi. And as soon she goes upstairs, she makes it Instagram official before she even comes back down. You know, she had her post all ready to go and she sends it. And I'm thinking, my gosh, that's how

Kelli (34:03.268)
She's, yeah, she's, she would 100 % would do that, yeah.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Wendy (34:29.55)
Carl learns about it is by the Instagram post. Like that's horrible.

Kelli (34:31.56)
Yeah.

Kelli (34:35.112)
It is, but I don't blame her. Like I don't think she owed him any phone call or like she didn't know him anything. And I'm not on either side and I don't think Carl did anything wrong and I don't think Lindsay did anything wrong. Although our friend that we met the other night did think Carl did something wrong.

Wendy (34:37.856)
No, I don't blame... No. No. No, I don't think... No, I agree.

Wendy (34:54.37)
She did? What did she think he did wrong? I mean, I didn't...

Kelli (34:55.856)
Yeah, she thinks Carl was a dog. That he planned the whole thing behind Lindsay's back. He talked to Kyle, he talked to producers, he talked to everybody but Lindsay. I don't think he should have broken up with her on camera, quite honestly.

Wendy (34:58.786)
I don't think you should have done it on TV.

Wendy (35:03.752)
He did. He did.

Wendy (35:09.678)
No. Listen, the way Brava works now wouldn't have mattered anyway because they'd just picked cameras back up. Right? Right? That's what they do. So we'll learn a little bit about, like, she started modeling at age 10 and she's 26 now. Sierra's sitting there talking to Lindsay and she keeps talking about we. And Sierra's like, who is we? She's like...

Kelli (35:14.95)
You're right. That's the new formula.

Kelli (35:36.892)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (35:37.72)
Turner we met three and a half years ago and he reached out last December so she's trying to figure out the timeline because they broke up in November Carl and Lindsay right or was it September no it was September they were they broke

Kelli (35:44.968)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (35:54.738)
She said they broke up in September, but the wedding was supposed to be in November.

Wendy (35:57.77)
November, right. They broke up in September. The wedding was supposed to be in November and now July 3rd, she's 18 weeks. So, I mean, you know, it works. It was quick, but it works.

Kelli (36:10.886)
It was quick. I mean, maybe she was pregnant within two months of dating him, right?

Wendy (36:14.574)
Right. Yes. he reached out in December, but she didn't actually start seeing him until January. She kind of was like, not really engaging with him. Jesse asks Lexi if she describes herself as ditzy.

Kelli (36:34.28)
Nobody asked her that. That was so crazy. Listen, although I really like Jessie and I think that, God forbid, but when you go through cancer, it's probably like, what the fuck? This is me. These are the crazy shit questions I'm gonna ask you, so answer them or not.

Wendy (36:39.124)
He said why he said why he did it.

Wendy (36:53.204)
Right, right. Well, he said like he likes to kind of see how far he can push the line and, know, yeah, yeah. And he apologized when she, you know, she said she was offended, which I don't blame, you know, I'd be offended too. Like, what?

Kelli (37:00.424)
And then he retreats.

Kelli (37:11.164)
Well yeah, and I think it was good that she said she was offended, because you know me, would have been like, you know, I wouldn't have said anything. So it was good that she was like, yeah, yes, I am offended by that.

Wendy (37:16.693)
Yeah, right.

Wendy (37:21.28)
Yeah. So then after dinner, they decide they're going to go out, right? But Lexi and Bailey stay behind and they're cleaning up and they're talking about Jesse. I thought that was interesting. The two new girls didn't go out the first night. And then we flash back to Paige and Lindsay talking six years ago and Paige says, ideally I meet someone and get married and have a baby by age 30. Thought that was interesting.

Kelli (37:35.632)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (37:50.172)
It is interesting.

Wendy (37:51.488)
Yeah, and I think that we're going to see more of the whole Craig page thing play out this summer.

Kelli (38:00.07)
I do too. But unfortunately, what we're gonna see is Bravo's spin on it. And I don't know if you saw Craig did an interview, still has not said one negative thing about Paige. He will not say a negative thing, God bless him. But he's basically said, what you're seeing is the trials that we went through. Like we had really, really good times, but you're not gonna see that.

Wendy (38:07.662)
Hmm

A tamer hall.

Kelli (38:30.322)
But we both, were together for three and a half years. We're both coming out of this relationship as better people than we were, than went into it. And it's a breakup and you you move on. Like he's being so good about it. And what I did notice because I had made a comment, I think we were texting one day over it and I was like, this is fake, this is bullshit. Look at, he's smiling through the whole thing. Remember his first post, he was smiling, but he acknowledged, he said, what I'm learning about myself is that

Wendy (38:55.084)
Yes.

Kelli (38:59.768)
I smile during awkward conversations. So I was like, I'm so glad he said that because I was like, what the fuck's he smiling for? You supposedly just got your heart broken.

Wendy (39:02.67)
And I was like, no, it's not. Yeah, no, he did get his heart broken. Listen, this is what I think. First of all, I have not heard her say one bad thing about him as a map.

Kelli (39:19.11)
Yes, she did. She said that he was texting two other girls. she's on, she's gonna, it's a coming attraction. She's going to say it when cameras, when cameras pick back up after summer house ends. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (39:22.24)
I never heard her say that. Where is-

Wendy (39:27.694)
on Summer House?

Okay. Okay, because I haven't seen her say that. And I will say that what I heard her say on the podcast is that she had nothing bad to say about him. There was no reason for the breakup. And, you know, he's a good guy.

Kelli (39:46.226)
see this is the problem. So you're listening, I don't listen to her podcast, you're listening to her podcast, which she's actually saying in the now, but Bravo is putting out there that she's gonna run him through the mud saying he was texting two other girls.

Wendy (39:49.943)
Yeah.

Wendy (39:54.072)
Right.

Wendy (40:04.416)
No, that's not good.

Kelli (40:05.636)
No, I know, that's what I mean. Like, Bravo's setting the narrative for their breakup and it's ridiculous.

Wendy (40:10.946)
I don't think that he would do that. don't think that, I don't.

Kelli (40:13.466)
I don't either. And he actually said in that interview, I think, you know, one day you're going to see Paige backpedal on that because it's just, it's not true.

Wendy (40:26.242)
Yeah. I mean, listen, I know Ciara and Amanda and obviously Hannah, but she's not on the show, all have her back as I would expect them to because they're her friends. And I know that Austin and Shep are gonna have Craig's back. And I guess Patricia as well.

Kelli (40:35.698)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah. What else are they gonna do?

Of course. Yeah, I mean, listen, your friend breaks up with her boyfriend and he could be the best guy in the world and you're gonna be like, he was a douchebag, you were too good for him. It's just what you do. Yes. Yes. they can, you know, they both have to take that side.

Wendy (40:57.676)
Right. Exactly. That's what you do. That's how you protect your friends.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Kelli (41:09.71)
I just wish that they would both say less. And I don't think, like you said, like they're not saying too much, but they should just say nothing right now because Bravo is running with this. And it's just gonna cause heartache for both of them if they read into what Bravo's doing.

Wendy (41:30.548)
Yeah, I agree. I agree. Then we see, which we kind of knew, Jesse really likes Lexi. I mean, he was sitting out at the pool talking to the guys. He's like, I showed up here single and now I'm leaving with a girl. And Wes is like, wait, what?

Kelli (41:38.405)
Yeah.

Kelli (41:46.984)
Kyle's like, don't tell her you love her. He's like, I think I might. It's so funny. She's a really cool girl. You met her five hours ago. Hey, sometimes you just know. I wonder if they're still like, talking, you who knows?

Wendy (42:02.062)
I know, I know.

That's right.

Wendy (42:11.476)
Yeah, we'll have to wait and see. Then we see Gabby comes home, so she sleeps out the first night. She's seeing some international guy who's 30 minutes away and good for her.

Kelli (42:22.758)
Yeah, because according to her, American guys suck.

Wendy (42:27.18)
I mean, I've never dated. Yeah, yeah. That's it, that's it. Then everyone's out at the pool and then we see Carl walks in the house, everyone's outside, but he's like talking to the producers, he's nervous about seeing her. He's still trying to process things, know, doesn't know what to say to her. And it's awkward, it's really awkward. I feel bad for him. And then...

Kelli (42:28.39)
Listen, that could be her experience, guys. Get your shit together, bring your A-game.

Kelli (42:53.724)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (42:56.162)
I feel bad when he walks in and sees that big canvas or whatever it is of the baby, the ultrasound. I'm like, my God. But we don't see it, because that's pretty much where it ends. That's where the episode ends. And then we see six months later, the cameras pick up after Paige and Craig break up. I didn't write any details about that, but.

Kelli (43:07.782)
I know, I felt really bad for him.

Kelli (43:13.469)
Yeah.

Kelli (43:23.718)
Yeah, that's what she says though. They showed her saying it. He was texting two other girls while they were dating. I don't believe it either.

Wendy (43:27.938)
That's crazy.

I don't believe it. I don't believe it for a second. Then on Watch What Happens Live, Lindsay and Sierra were on and behind the bar was editor in chief of Cosmopolitan.

Kelli (43:43.848)
She was young and kind of immature. Okay, good, I'm glad it wasn't just me.

Wendy (43:45.236)
Willow Bennett.

I thought so too.

And I'm not even going to go there, but I didn't see Cosmopolitan editor energy or style. I mean, unless I missed it.

Kelli (43:59.516)
me neither and I'm no fashionista but doesn't she have people to do that for like

Wendy (44:04.621)
I was like, okay. I don't know. I don't know. Okay, so then there were some polls. I wrote down the polls. Is there a universe where West and Sierra will rekindle their relationship? 91 % of the people said no. Is Kyle a changed man? 61 % of the people said no. And according to them, Amanda said no.

Kelli (44:09.54)
I know.

Kelli (44:18.866)
god no.

Kelli (44:32.104)
Exactly. Well, and we know it just came out. There's a rumor that Kyle cheated. Cheated or was talking to somebody, trying to get a girl's number? Yeah. I mean, obviously as a married man, any of that is not good, but I don't know if they said he physically cheated or if he just attempted to get somebody's number, I forget. But whatever it is, it's not great.

Wendy (44:36.024)
Yeah.

Wendy (44:39.97)
I think cheated. I don't know. Yeah, something.

Wendy (44:55.822)
No, it's not great. Do Jessie and Lexi make a cute couple? So 41 % said yes, 59 % said no. On a scale? Well, I think she's, well, I mean, she's 26, he's 31, right? It's not a huge age difference, but.

Kelli (45:02.617)
Absolutely.

Kelli (45:07.428)
Wow! I wonder why?

Kelli (45:14.482)
He's the O.

She's young.

Kelli (45:21.864)
Wow.

Wendy (45:25.302)
I think that she is more young-minded, if that's even possible.

Kelli (45:31.888)
Yeah, and he was a little bit of an F-boy last summer, right? So maybe that too.

Wendy (45:35.894)
Yeah. On a scale of one to ten, how surprised were you to find out Paige and Craig broke up? So, Sierra said one, Lindsay also said one, and the poll, the viewer said five. We were surprised.

Kelli (45:58.448)
I was surprised. For sure. Yeah.

Wendy (45:59.158)
Yeah, you and I, that's what saying. You and I were surprised. We were like, my gosh, but we didn't see Summer House or we didn't, you

Kelli (46:06.3)
Yeah. Did you see that Amanda is dropped her bathing suit line today? Remember they were talking about it?

Wendy (46:12.782)
Oh, I did not. I knew it was coming. I didn't know it dropped today. Oh, I'll have to check it out. I'll have to check it out. The next question was reaction to seeing Boston Rob banished from the castle. 44 % were happy, 56 % were sad.

Kelli (46:16.496)
Yeah, I saw her air. It was on her Instagram. Yeah, cute stuff.

Wendy (46:33.806)
The next question was which Bravo Liberty will go the furthest now on the traders either Sierra Miller, Dolores or Tom? Dolores won it at 49 % and then Sierra with 40 and then Tom with 6.

Yeah, I would like to see Dolores win it. I would. Yeah.

Kelli (46:55.205)
I hope Dolores wins.

Wendy (47:01.646)
So Lindsay's man Turner's there in the back. Andy asks Ciara and Lindsay how their relationship was and they said, no, they're good. And then Lindsay started to say something about traitors. But then Ciara said she had nothing to do with casting. Now, I know it was rumored that Dorinda got her thrown off of traitors, but according to Dorinda, Dorinda did an interview on one podcast. I heard her talking about this exact subject and she is

vehemently denying it. That she had no idea who Lindsay was, never met Lindsay, didn't know she was pregnant.

Kelli (47:38.812)
That's interesting. Why would Doran to know who Lindsay was, honestly?

Wendy (47:40.054)
I thought that was interesting too. Right. how did it come? And the other thing I heard was, and again, this doesn't make sense either. I think Dorinda said this though, so that may be why it makes no sense.

Supposedly

But if it was right, they did it after the reunion and Lindsay was pregnant. We already know that. Dorinda was saying that Lindsay was pregnant and she had a miscarriage. And then this is a different pregnancy. What? No, it doesn't make sense.

Kelli (48:18.76)
don't make sense.

I mean, she did have a miscarriage with Jason.

Wendy (48:24.36)
Yeah, exactly. But again, why would Dorinda tell casting that she was pregnant?

Kelli (48:32.188)
How would Durin to know?

Wendy (48:33.94)
How would Dorinda know? And why is Lindsay trying to hide that if she's gonna be away? I don't know. I don't know what's true in this whole story, to be quite honest with you. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense. But I mean, honestly, I don't trust Dorinda. But.

Kelli (48:37.01)
Yeah, I don't know.

Kelli (48:56.848)
No, I don't either, because what could have happened was, Lindsay was cast for the show, found out she was pregnant, told the producer of the show, like, listen, I'm pregnant, I don't know how this is gonna go, especially given the fact that she had already had a miscarriage. I'm sure she was nervous to be away, out of the country. Maybe Durinda got wind of it from a producer. And that's how she got wrapped into the whole thing.

Wendy (49:13.303)
Right.

Wendy (49:24.096)
Right, right.

Kelli (49:26.023)
I don't know.

Wendy (49:27.616)
know either. I don't know either. We'll have to wait and see. I mean I'm sure it always comes out. The truth always comes out. So supposedly on Jeff Lewis it came out. I don't know if this is true but Shas of Sunset is doing kind of like a reboot like

Kelli (49:35.048)
It sure does.

Kelli (49:49.991)
New York.

Wendy (49:51.502)
They said like Vanderpump, but that doesn't make sense. Where they're going to be bringing on some old people and some new people. There'll be a mixture.

Kelli (49:58.45)
Well, I thought Reza, Gigi, and MJ were filming.

Wendy (50:02.51)
Yes, I think that that is the case and I guess there'll be additional cast members included, which I'm here for. I love Shaz. I really would like Family Karma to come back too because I loved Family Karma.

Kelli (50:08.144)
Yeah, I'm here for that for sure.

Yeah, I never watched that, but I'm sure I would have loved that too.

Wendy (50:15.914)
You would have loved it. And I was listening to Alex Baskin's interview with Denise Richards today.

Kelli (50:24.994)
I can't.

Wendy (50:26.868)
It's going to be so good just by listening to Denise talk about it. It's going to be so good. I can't wait for that one to come.

Kelli (50:32.258)
I watched her first reality TV show years ago, did you? my God, it was fucking great when her daughters were little and her father was there and she was trying to set her father up because her mother had passed away. I mean, that was before, I'm gonna have to look to see what year. I don't know if it was before Housewives. It might have been before Housewives. I'm trying to think of how old her daughters are. I do believe it was before Kardashians.

Wendy (50:35.022)
I didn't. No, I didn't. I did not.

Wendy (51:02.28)
wow. Yeah.

Kelli (51:03.12)
It was great. It was a great show. She makes good TV, Denise Richards.

Wendy (51:07.566)
She does make good TV and I can't wait to watch this show after hearing her interview with him. I didn't also, saw while I was scrolling through Facebook, Alex Baskin is on Two Tees in a Pod with Tamara, I guess. And I really didn't realize how young he looks. Like he's a young guy. I didn't realize that. When I saw him, it's not what I was expecting.

Kelli (51:21.006)
okay. Balltie recovers.

Kelli (51:28.679)
Yeah.

Wendy (51:34.038)
after hearing his podcast a couple of times. I hadn't seen him before. And he did do that one with Mo and PK. Yeah, I actually like his podcasts.

Kelli (51:37.874)
Yeah.

Kelli (51:42.472)
PK.

I'm glad you brought that up. was watching, because know, Beverly Hills is on tonight. So earlier while I was cooking dinner, had like, you know, last week's episode on or whatever. And when Dorit starts talking about PK and the whole 10 year thing, and then Kyle says, Pete, you know, Mo's bringing Portia on their trip and then he's meeting up with PK later in San Jose. And I was thinking, I wonder if PK, you know, he and Mo are very close and

know, Moe separated, living his best life, and PK was like, huh.

Maybe that's what I should be doing right now. I wonder if that was a catalyst for him.

Wendy (52:27.574)
It could be. I mean, it certainly could be. You know, when you're looking at your friend who you know has been in this relationship for a long time and things are looking good and you've got this out now since you're now sober and you're seeing things differently and people are looking at you differently.

Kelli (52:37.809)
Yeah.

Kelli (52:54.482)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (52:55.138)
You know, it could definitely be. I could definitely see that happening.

Kelli (52:58.386)
Yeah.

Wendy (53:00.108)
I think tonight's going to be a good episode. think it's going to be where Sutton and Dorique go at it again.

Kelli (53:05.266)
Yeah.

Wendy (53:08.728)
We'll have to... Why are you yawning?

Kelli (53:11.08)
I don't know, I'm so tired. I can't take it. I'm always tired, I have a sickness. I really need the blood work.

We're going to Atlantic City Sunday night and I don't know if I'm going to be able to handle.

Wendy (53:20.866)
case.

Wendy (53:24.95)
my goodness, we're gonna have to figure this out, because we have more episodes to film too. I guess we just have Beverly Hills, right?

Kelli (53:32.38)
We just had Beverly Hills and then if we want to do like a Southern charm, summer house, Southern hospitality, menagerie, now we're almost at an hour. Will just mentioned real quick how awkward this scene with Sienna was in the Bahamas with Shep where she wouldn't even stay in the room with him while he changed.

Wendy (53:37.991)
do we have time? What time is it? Do we have time? Do we have time? All right, so now, okay.

Wendy (53:54.791)
So weird. It's so weird.

Kelli (53:56.13)
I mean, this girl cannot get away from him fast enough.

Wendy (54:00.77)
and he doesn't see it.

Kelli (54:02.712)
I don't know because somebody said that she told him they need to have a conversation, I guess about their relationship and he said, no, but we have to do it on camera. Did you say that?

Wendy (54:13.132)
or on camera. heard that somebody said that. Maybe it was Gina. I don't know. Somebody said that. I did hear that. And I'm like, well, yeah, because he's smart. And he wants, like, he wants us on camera. I don't blame him. Especially since everything else at this point has been on camera. So maybe he does realize it. his friends keep saying to him, you know, she's not into you. She's not that into you. She's really not.

Kelli (54:25.542)
Yep. Yep.

Kelli (54:30.373)
Exactly.

Kelli (54:38.716)
Right. Right. And ew, she was into Whitney? ugh.

Wendy (54:44.352)
No, she wasn't into Whitney either.

Kelli (54:47.026)
But she like matched with them on Ryers or she tried to.

Wendy (54:50.542)
But, well, why do you think? The same reason, I mean, why? Because this is who she is. She's a gold digger. She's a gold digger. And sad. I mean, oh, I don't know if you saw the thing on, I don't know if it was Instagram or Facebook, but they were talking about Shep's house. Like, why does Shep have all this money and he lives in this little house on the beach? Did you see anything about that?

Kelli (54:53.169)
Right.

Kelli (54:57.372)
Yeah. She sure is. Yeah.

It's really sad.

Kelli (55:20.807)
I did.

Wendy (55:21.984)
And then did you see it's actually an Airbnb?

Kelli (55:25.434)
I was going to say, I'm sure this is a house staged for him to film in and this is not where he lives.

Wendy (55:30.87)
It is not where he lives, because then they showed you the Airbnb and it was all booked. You couldn't reserve it, but everything is, you know, the surfboard in the kitchen. it's almost like, my God, this is the Airbnb.

Kelli (55:43.666)
Because do you remember when Olivia's brother passed away and Shep offered his home as a place for her family to come stay because they lived on the same road? Now we see Shep's house from the outside and then you see Olivia's beautiful, you know, I mean, they're clearly not on the same road where Shep is filming and where Olivia was living. So I think he was talking about his other home.

Wendy (55:55.169)
Yes.

Wendy (56:08.02)
No. Right.

Wendy (56:14.454)
Yeah, that's it. I'm just, again, I didn't watch this. Has he ever been in this little house before? Like have you ever seen?

Kelli (56:18.108)
He doesn't want people to know where he lives. Probably, I would imagine.

Kelli (56:25.596)
He's always, this is always where, from what I, maybe not season one. he's always had this house, I mean, for, would say at least three or four years. I'd have to go back and watch season one from the beginning, because they've had quite a few seasons by now.

Wendy (56:30.741)
so he's always filmed in this house.

Wendy (56:37.806)
Okay.

Wendy (56:45.174)
Okay, all right, so that's interesting. So, because I didn't know, was like, is this a different house? Like, but I did see that it's... So, yeah, so it's an Airbnb, just rents it to film. Good for him.

Kelli (56:46.097)
Yeah.

Kelli (56:50.148)
no, I mean Taylor and he, you know, they filmed there.

Kelli (56:59.312)
I thought that when I heard that, like, he's not, this is just to film.

Wendy (57:01.472)
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't blame him. mean, if you, wouldn't, I'm surprised that Patricia and Whitney.

Kelli (57:13.22)
I think Patricia's home, like New York City was a character in Sex and the City, I think Patricia's home is a character in Southern Charm because she's been hosting them for their boys dinners and yeah, since season one. And you best come correct to Patricia's home.

Wendy (57:19.541)
of her home.

Yeah.

sinners.

Okay, so yeah, I guess it is a part of, right. And did it get officially sold to Whitney? Is it his now? Did he have to buy it? Couldn't you just transfer it to his name?

Kelli (57:35.782)
think it is his now.

Kelli (57:40.55)
I'm sure he paid her like $1.50.

Wendy (57:43.51)
All right. Right. I mean, you don't have to buy it. Like, what is wrong with people?

Kelli (57:48.22)
I I know. It's the upkeep that's the expensive part, right?

Wendy (57:53.74)
Yeah, and I'm sure the taxes are pretty high. I love Charleston. I really think we should plan a trip to Charleston.

Kelli (57:56.06)
Yeah.

I'm in, I'm so in. I definitely want to go to Charleston.

Wendy (58:04.054)
I would love to go there. I would love to go to both of Lava's places. And I love the little straw market there. And I can't think of the name of the street, that like cobblestone street there. I want to go to Charles. We have to figure this out.

Kelli (58:05.544)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (58:10.386)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (58:17.864)
Yeah.

Yeah, well, we gotta plan a trip. I gotta plan a trip with my kids first, because Joe keeps asking if we can go on vacation somewhere where he can actually get on an airplane.

Wendy (58:29.994)
He just want to get an airplane. An airplane just crashed again yesterday.

Kelli (58:34.514)
Don't even remind me because Tess is going to LA on her spring break to visit my nephew Anthony. Next month. And I'm a fucking nervous wreck over it. Nervous wreck.

Wendy (58:39.502)
Wendy (58:43.991)
Okay.

Kelli (58:47.538)
But I agree with you, 100%.

Wendy (58:50.542)
Yeah. I was thinking we could drive to Charleston. It's only like 12 or 13 hours. We could do it. All right. Until next time, thank you for watching and listening to We Wine Whenever. Bye.

Kelli (58:54.05)
I will drive to Charleston.

For sure. We could definitely do it. We could definitely do it.

Kelli (59:11.1)
Bye.