RHONY Reunion Part 2: Confrontation, Closure, and Chaos

RHONY Reunion Part 2: Confrontation, Closure, and Chaos

 RHONY Reunion Part 2

The second part of The Real Housewives of New York City reunion was packed with emotional confrontations, apologies, and deep-seated tensions finally coming to a head.

• Jessel vs. Brynn: Jessel confronts Brynn for distorting her words about her husband, leading to an intense exchange where Jenna calls out Brynn for knowingly bringing it up. Brynn insists it was meant as a joke but ultimately seeks forgiveness.
• Ubah & Brynn’s Heated Discussion: A past conversation resurfaces where Brynn made a controversial comment about Ubah’s demeanor, prompting a discussion about race and identity. Ubah expresses that she does not feel she has had a negative experience as a Black woman. The conversation ends with Ubah accepting Brynn’s apology.
• Rebecca vs. The Ladies: Rebecca’s involvement in the group dynamic is examined, particularly around Scientology. Erin calls her self-involved, while Rebecca claims the topic was used as clickbait. She defends her beliefs and ultimately walks off stage.
• Tensions in Puerto Rico: Discussions of past conflicts on the trip resurface, including a misunderstanding about accommodations and Ubah’s outburst at the pool. Erin also admits to her role in past gossip.
• Brynn’s Emotional Revelation: A major moment unfolds when Brynn reveals past trauma, explaining her reaction to Ubah’s earlier remarks. The women express empathy, and Ubah apologizes, though she acknowledges that full trust will take time.
• Final Apologies & Moving Forward: The episode concludes with heartfelt reconciliations. Ubah and Brynn share an emotional moment, and Sai extends an apology to Erin. Jenna reflects on the nature of friendships, and Brynn vows to be a better friend. The women share a final moment of unity before wrapping up the season.

Takeaways

• An apology should be straightforward and sincere.
• Accountability is crucial in friendships.
• Religious beliefs can shape personal identity and experiences.
• Emotional reactions can complicate group dynamics.
• Victim mentality can hinder personal growth.
• Understanding and communication are key in resolving conflicts.
• The impact of past traumas can influence present behavior.
• Reality TV often amplifies personal conflicts.
• Friendship dynamics can shift dramatically in stressful situations.
• Navigating sensitive topics requires care and empathy. Adult behavior can sometimes be questionable.
• Reunions can reveal deeper issues among friends.
• Friendship requires effort and communication.
• Redemption arcs can be compelling in reality TV.
• Breakups often highlight differing expectations in relationships.
• Social media complicates personal relationships.
• Behavior on reality TV can impact public perception.
• Political aspirations of reality stars can be surprising.
• Friendships can be tested in high-pressure situations.
• The dynamics of reality TV cast relationships are complex.

Transcript

We Wine Whenever (00:00.774)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:03.115)
I'm Kelly.

We Wine Whenever (00:04.86)
We are talking about Real Housewives of New York, Reunion Part 2 and the final episode.

Kelli (00:11.5)
Yeah, did you know it was only two?

We Wine Whenever (00:13.69)
I did. I did know.

Kelli (00:15.338)
I didn't, although I mean, I was expecting three, but really there wasn't much to talk about, so.

We Wine Whenever (00:20.882)
there really wasn't much to talk about. So we start with where we left off with Jessel, her talking to Brynn and telling her how she distorted her words and said that her husband was not the love of her life. And Jenna says to her, you know, an apology is no more fucking words. Like Brynn kept trying to apologize, but she kept talking. And she's like, you know, the spin is really dark and I cannot believe that you did that to her.

Kelli (00:41.251)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (00:47.596)
And Brynn's crying and saying, I did not know, I'm so sorry. Jenna said, you did know, you knew it wasn't her husband and you actually chose to bring it up. And that's really where the issue lies. Yeah, exactly.

Kelli (00:59.874)
Because we never knew anything about that. We never saw that scene. They did that all off camera. There was no reason to bring that up. Certainly not to lie about it.

We Wine Whenever (01:03.815)
No.

We Wine Whenever (01:11.054)
Right. didn't like that. mean, Brynn is the one who brought it up, but Erin and Sy were talking about it and they didn't really get their, know, Jessel said that Sy texted her and apologized, but I felt like they kind of got off scot-free and I don't think that that should have happened. I mean, especially Erin, because I even remember Erin saying something like, I can't even see them like having sex. Like you can imagine Abe and I having sex.

Kelli (01:18.36)
Yeah.

Kelli (01:30.83)
totally agree with you.

Kelli (01:41.538)
which no we can't, Erin, nobody wants that.

We Wine Whenever (01:42.936)
No, no, we don't want to imagine that.

Kelli (01:45.728)
No, but yeah, so you're right. There was no accountability on Erin's part and she took it even a step further. What she did was even worse because she co-signed the lie that Brynn said and then she took it another step.

We Wine Whenever (01:57.82)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (02:02.928)
Yeah, yeah, I thought so.

Kelli (02:04.63)
and said they're not a sex, they don't seem like a sexual couple. What a stupid fucking thing to say about a married couple. Right?

We Wine Whenever (02:07.768)
Mm-hmm. I know, I know. 100 % agree. So then Brynn said, I want to prove to you that I'm not that person. I want to earn back your friendship. She said, I was making a cute joke. And the ladies are like, no, that wasn't a cute joke. And Jessel says, I don't want him to ever question my integrity. Like, he gives me free rein. He gives me whatever I want. And I get that, you know?

Kelli (02:34.498)
Yeah, and now she's saying he's questioning her every move. Like, that's horrible.

We Wine Whenever (02:37.262)
Right. Right. And then we see a conversation between Uber and Brynn the last night in the Hamptons and Brynn said, I don't want you to come off as an angry black woman. Why did you mention that Oliver might not want to be with you if he sees you like this? Uber says, Oliver lets me be whoever I want to be. And that's why we love Oliver because Uber's great.

Kelli (03:00.066)
Yeah, and I feel like the more Brynn tried to explain the angry black woman warning, the more epic of a fail it was.

We Wine Whenever (03:06.193)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (03:10.566)
Yeah, she says, I'm, I am biracial and I identify as a black woman. Maybe even I'm, even if I'm allowed to say certain terms or certain things, it's not appropriate for me to bring those things up. You know, what I said was wrong. So I'm glad she was at least acknowledging that, you know. She also acknowledges she hasn't had the same experience as Uba because Uba says, yes, I haven't had a bad experience as a black woman. Like I get everything I want for free. And Andy's like,

Kelli (03:28.867)
do.

We Wine Whenever (03:40.146)
get everything you want for free as a black woman?" She's like, well, I'm hot. He's like, okay, so is it, why? And she's like, well, I'm hot. And Raquel's like, no, I think it's more because you're hot, not because you're a black woman.

Kelli (03:56.086)
Either way, she's getting shit for free!

We Wine Whenever (03:58.168)
Exactly. I get upgraded, guys are holding my bags. And she's like, I've not had a bad experience. And Uba accepts Brynn's apology. And they go break for lunch and the ladies are talking and Brynn goes off by herself. And Erin said someone should go check on her. And she's like, maybe Jenna, you'd be the best one to check on her. And she does. Jenna does go check on her. And Erin and are talking. And the fact that Brynn

still sees her attacker. Uba is like taken back by that. She's like, I would not be able to live in New York. Like I wouldn't be able to, I'd have to move. Like she's, and we agreed to that. Like we can't believe that she has to see this person. Yeah. And Jenna's talking to Brynn and telling her that she needs to apologize to the ladies and that, you know, she needs to say that she's sorry, but she just keeps trying to explain and she needs to stop explaining and just apologize.

Kelli (04:34.048)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (04:40.365)
a lot.

Kelli (04:55.672)
Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (04:56.348)
Like just stop talking, just say you're sorry.

Kelli (04:59.308)
Right. Right.

We Wine Whenever (05:01.222)
Then we get back after the break and Rebecca's there. And then Andy asked Rebecca when it clicked for her that Brynn had a problem with her. And she said that after she heard the Nordstrom's Rack comment, that's when it really hit her that she had a problem with her. And Brynn's like, well, you should have went back at me. And then they're like, no, that's when you're overproducing. You don't need to be doing that.

Kelli (05:28.386)
Right, and that's not her style.

We Wine Whenever (05:32.186)
Right, that's not her style. Right. And then Brince.

Kelli (05:33.806)
And that's okay.

I think Rebecca, I don't think she had an opportunity to share anything else about her life. I think that they were heavy focusing on the Scientology. And I don't think, I think what she said was perfectly okay. And then they should have left it alone. Judaism is my religion. Scientology helps me handle the day to day of my life, my mental health and great. People can think what they want about Scientology, but she was right.

Would you be saying these things to me if I were a Christian? Like, it's so, there are some people out there who think all organized religion are cults. I mean, we can have our opinions about Scientology, but her whole time as a housewife, they heavily focused on that. And I don't think she got a fair shot.

We Wine Whenever (06:18.448)
Right. But.

We Wine Whenever (06:34.234)
I don't think she got a fair shot, but I don't think she was open to getting a fair shot either because she contradicted herself many times. When she was in the park with them, she said that Judaism is my religion and Scientology is how I cope with things. But then Andy straight out asks her at one point at the reunion, he said to her,

Kelli (06:59.672)
At the reunion.

We Wine Whenever (07:09.06)
Andy asked Rebecca, what is her religion? And she says both. Then they cut to her saying Judaism is her religion and Scientology is her belief system, more of a philosophy. Andy asked her if Scientology is a religion and she said yes, Scientology is a world recognized religion.

Kelli (07:28.404)
It is a religion. I just felt that she, you know, she follows Judaism. Like I got it the first time she said it. I don't think that's necessarily her contradicting herself though. I think she has the right to follow both.

We Wine Whenever (07:46.076)
She absolutely has the right to follow both, but...

When people are asking her questions and she's not giving them answers, like for example, when Erin said, you know, what was your problem with me? And she said it was the tone because she approved that question. Like what's the difference between Judaism? When she asked her that question, she didn't like her tone.

Kelli (08:10.54)
I don't think she was saying she didn't like her tone then. I think it was the other things Erin was saying. Erin can definitely have a negative tone when she talks. She thinks she's being funny, but she's not funny. She sounds like a real bitch, especially in her confessionals. And I thought she was very negative about the whole Scientology thing. That's why, again, I agree with Rebecca.

You can ask me questions and I'm going to answer your questions, but if I sense that you're going to spin this in a negative way, I'm not going to keep answering your questions and I don't blame her.

We Wine Whenever (08:50.14)
Right.

Kelli (08:51.456)
And I thought the whole thing with Erin's dad, her sending her a poem and Erin like, great, thanks. Like, fuck you Erin. Like what did you want her to do? I didn't like that at all.

We Wine Whenever (08:59.866)
Yeah, yeah, no, I agree. No, I agree with you. That was, you know, she she did reach out to her. She sent her a poem.

Kelli (09:08.012)
I don't think you can ever judge someone how they handle their own grief when they lose someone. And I don't think you should ever judge someone for how they handle your grief when you lose someone. Sometimes people just don't know what to do when a friend loses someone. But I felt that her sending her a poem was appropriate and heartfelt.

We Wine Whenever (09:12.337)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (09:31.79)
No, I agree. I agree. I agree. And like you said, it's hard. Like, it's a difficult situation to begin with. And just because you didn't find that poem touching, it doesn't mean her intentions weren't pure. You know, it's all about intentions. It's about intentions, you know?

Kelli (09:32.845)
Right?

Kelli (09:38.528)
Yeah.

Kelli (09:46.732)
Right, I, exactly, exactly. And I got the impression that it was like she was looking for like, you know, flowers or like something monetary. That's how I took it. But I feel like that's who Erin is. Like send me something, my father died.

We Wine Whenever (10:00.991)
I didn't take it that way.

We Wine Whenever (10:07.096)
see, I didn't take it that way. Andy also asked Rebecca what she thought about a size hot mic moment where she said that she was boring. And she said, well, she initially apologized to me. And I accepted her apology. then when I saw her in her confessional, she doubled down on it. And she did.

We Wine Whenever (10:34.13)
Listen, the confessionals are really what got the ladies in trouble because that is really where they talked about the Scientology and it was basically because they weren't allowed to talk about it anyplace else.

Kelli (10:45.678)
I don't think it's that they weren't allowed to. I think it was very clear in their confessionals how they felt about it. So I think that they probably did talk about it more on the show, but Rebecca probably shut down because the way they were acting in their confessionals is how they were acting towards her. She was probably like, listen, if you're gonna make this a joke or make this a negative thing, then I'm not going to move forward with it.

We Wine Whenever (11:15.802)
Yeah, I mean, that could be. That could be. I mean, the other thing was that Erin had mentioned, and I do think that this was a part of it, is that Rebecca was trying to distance herself from Erin and the prank, even though the prank from everything that's been said was Rebecca's idea. And I think that she regretted it after it went out there, the way it flopped so much, and she was trying to distance herself from Erin and that prank. And I think that that may be

Kelli (11:16.524)
That's what I thought.

Kelli (11:33.315)
Yeah.

Kelli (11:38.284)
Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (11:45.082)
where her and Erin kind of lost ground with everything, with the tone and with what followed afterwards with the Scientology questions, because that was early on. That was early on.

Kelli (11:48.972)
Right.

Kelli (11:54.359)
Right, right.

We Wine Whenever (11:59.792)
Let's see. Viewers ask the ladies, you all had a lot to say about Scientology and your confessionals. And they cut to the confessionals where they're saying everything. Raquel says, from what I've heard people say, they give a lot of their salary towards it. Sy says, she has zero comments. Don't come for me. I feel like my phones will be tapped. Brynn says she feels like she's talking to a door-to-door salesman who's going to sell me snake oil.

Kelli (12:28.792)
That wasn't nice.

We Wine Whenever (12:29.752)
No, it wasn't nice. But then Jessel kind of jumps in and said her and Raquel and Rebecca all had a very nice dinner a few weeks ago and the topic came up and they were asking a lot of questions and Andy said, well, why didn't you ask these questions on camera? And they said, listen, Rebecca was very reluctant and she didn't feel comfortable. She did feel comfortable with Erin, but then she didn't like her tone. So.

I think seriously there's a lot of mixed signals. Either she felt comfortable or she didn't feel comfortable. Either they could talk about it or they couldn't talk about it when they talked about it, when she wasn't there. Obviously they're going to say what they really think and it's going to come across as snarky.

Kelli (13:13.432)
Yeah. Also, in the middle of them filming, we saw on the helicopter that a news article was coming out about it, and that news article was not a positive spin. So maybe the news article and the way that was written made her be like, I'm done. I'm not talking about it.

We Wine Whenever (13:25.724)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (13:34.638)
Right. And Brynn was trying to, on the helicopter, engage her and trying to get her to give her side of it. And Rebecca was saying, like, I don't know how to do this. Like, I don't know how to do this. So Brynn was trying to help her. I do think at that point Brynn was trying to help her. don't think she was trying to be this snarky person. And I actually thought that she was friends with Brynn beforehand.

Kelli (13:41.837)
Yeah.

Kelli (13:49.11)
Right. Yes.

Kelli (13:59.028)
I did too, but they must not have. I think she must have only known Aaron before coming on.

We Wine Whenever (14:03.226)
Yeah. Yeah, because I remember in the beginning when she wasn't drinking, Brynn kept saying, drink, drink.

Kelli (14:10.4)
And she said, she did make a comment like she's drank with us before. But maybe that's when they knew she was coming on the show and they all went out to have drinks before they started filming just to get to know her. But yeah, I had that impression as well.

We Wine Whenever (14:14.927)
Right. Right.

We Wine Whenever (14:21.946)
Right.

Rebecca says she felt like it was only bought up as clickbait. And then Brynn brings up that Rebecca doesn't even live in New York. Now that's the first we heard that.

Kelli (14:35.672)
That is the first we heard that.

We Wine Whenever (14:37.658)
I think that's interesting that that's the first time we hear this is on the reunion.

Kelli (14:41.23)
It's interesting, but I mean, like she said, most wealthy people have two homes, so they go back and forth. Her business is obviously, you know, runs out of New York. So I'm sure she's there very often, but her home base is Florida.

We Wine Whenever (14:59.268)
Is it though? Or maybe her home base is New York and she goes, who knows? I think, and you know, we were waiting for Brynn to come up with some great, like, confessional moment. Like we were supposed to learn something new from Brynn. And I think this is what we were learning. The big secret that hadn't come out yet.

Kelli (15:02.283)
Yeah, who knows?

Kelli (15:17.326)
I didn't think it was gonna be on the reunion. I thought we were still going to find something else out, but maybe that was it. mean, who cares? that's...

We Wine Whenever (15:19.526)
I mean, I didn't-

We Wine Whenever (15:25.535)
exactly. That's how I feel. Like, who cares? Is this what we were waiting for? Is this the big secret?

Kelli (15:32.236)
I hope not, exactly. I really hope that's not what we were waiting for.

We Wine Whenever (15:39.13)
Yeah. So then they ask her what her, Andy asks her what her reaction to the word cult is. Rebecca said it's a bigoted term. It's hate speech. And you wouldn't be asking me this if I were talking Christianity and Judaism. And she's tired of the attacks and I don't blame her. I totally don't blame her. Then a viewer asked, did you really expect to come on a reality show and not talk about it? Rebecca said, I'm happy to talk about it in a safe place.

Kelli (15:56.568)
I don't blame her either, I really don't.

We Wine Whenever (16:05.37)
or I can have a conversation, an honest conversation. And then she goes on to say, like, you know, it's not something that I can explain in like an hour. Like, and Andy's like, well, you had plenty of time to talk about it. Like you didn't have to, you could have spoke about it on many different occasions. And I just think she didn't feel comfortable. At that point, she didn't feel comfortable.

Kelli (16:13.357)
Right.

Kelli (16:25.216)
I agree.

We Wine Whenever (16:28.868)
At the end, Andy asks, know, do you have anything else you'd like to say before she leaves? And she said that she wanted to apologize for Erin, for not calling her after her father passed, and for the prank, and for anyone suffering from infertility that saw that prank in a sort of way. Which, I'm glad you did that.

Kelli (16:48.982)
I I mean, it's nice that she did that, but that's a stretch. Nobody who's suffering with problems with fertility is gonna be offended by a fake rumor about her being pregnant by somebody other than her husband. Like, to me, that was a big stretch.

We Wine Whenever (17:04.561)
It was mentioned though. So she wanted to just cover her bases, apologize for it and move on. And as we know, she resigned to the next day. She said she wouldn't be coming back. yeah. And then Rebecca walks off stage and it was odd because they really didn't even say goodbye to her. And Sai's like, that was awkward. It was awkward. It was really awkward. It was.

Kelli (17:08.375)
Yeah.

Kelli (17:14.476)
yeah.

We knew that was happening.

Kelli (17:27.894)
was way awkward. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (17:30.884)
I mean, I didn't get to go over Salt Lake with you, but it was almost as awkward as when Brittany came out and she wanted to be announced and walked out. Like, and she wanted to be out there at the end when they were toasting. I'm like, no, that's awkward.

Kelli (17:43.604)
She's so thirsty, Brittany. I really hope she's not back.

We Wine Whenever (17:45.614)
I know. I think she's going to be back. I do. I do. We'll have to wait and see what happens. So then we come back after the break and we start with the trip to Puerto Rico. Andy wants to start at the beginning of the trip. Raquel says she didn't realize that that Uber wouldn't fit on the bed until she actually saw it. But

Kelli (17:50.829)
You really do?

Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (18:12.082)
her saying that the water was disgusting and not go, you know, she still was offended by that. And I think that, you know, she had a right to be.

Kelli (18:18.072)
Yeah.

And Uba wasn't, I mean, that's one thing about Uba. She won't admit she's wrong. Well, I shouldn't say she won't, but she's not admitting she was wrong in this situation. And I think everybody can agree she was wrong.

We Wine Whenever (18:21.936)
She wasn't packing.

We Wine Whenever (18:32.24)
Yeah, yeah, no, she wasn't backing down on that. You Raquel's like, you just had to walk through the water. Everyone else walked through the water. And it was like, well, I was worried about Psy because of her foot. she's like, Psy walked through the water. I mean, probably she shouldn't have walked through the water. But exactly.

Kelli (18:35.15)
Right.

Kelli (18:45.976)
She probably should not have. Condom or not, she should have walked through the water. I would have been a little concerned about side too, but I would have walked through the water.

We Wine Whenever (18:56.57)
Yeah, I probably would walk through the water too. I mean, you know, you're at the beach. You're at the beach. And we just saw in Beverly Hills, there's dead birds on the beach there too. you know, it happens everywhere.

Kelli (18:58.648)
Yeah.

Right. Right.

Kelli (19:07.148)
That's right. That's right.

We Wine Whenever (19:14.098)
Then he brings up how Jenna ended up talking about a certain situation down there, like how did that come about? And she said that she had told that to sigh in confidence on the plane and she didn't expect it to become, but you know, she's such a good sport about that kind of stuff. I mean, she lets them run with it. I know, but she's so good about it. She just lets them run with it.

Kelli (19:31.086)
She really is. You can tell she's mortified.

Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (19:40.146)
I give her lot of credit. Honestly, think she's a class act when it comes to this kind of stuff.

Kelli (19:40.962)
Yeah.

Kelli (19:45.004)
Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (19:48.094)
Uber apologized for losing her shit. Andy asked if she realized that the woman were afraid to talk to you. And she just kept, she apologized for losing her shit, but then she really wasn't going any further. And she just kept saying, okay, just be afraid of me. All right, continue to be afraid of me. Like she wasn't.

Kelli (20:08.396)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (20:12.112)
She wasn't owning what they were trying to tell her, why they were afraid to, you know. Right.

Kelli (20:14.09)
No, not at all.

They're not afraid of her, they're afraid of her reaction. They're not afraid, just, they'd rather avoid her reaction to things. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (20:23.729)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (20:27.364)
Exactly.

Kelli (20:30.946)
She was not getting it though, at all.

We Wine Whenever (20:34.458)
And then Uba at one point, Raquel was trying to explain to Uba and Uba says to Raquel, I wish I tell you I care, but I don't. I was like,

Kelli (20:43.746)
Yeah, like that's insulting. Like basically you're saying that how she feels doesn't matter. You don't care. You have no interest.

We Wine Whenever (20:45.392)
It is insulting.

We Wine Whenever (20:50.256)
Yeah, yeah, I know. do, listen, I do like Uba, but I do think she's very cold and cut with her words. And very stubborn and hot. mean, listen, they don't call her Uba hot. I mean, I know she had a hot sauce, but she really is Uba hot.

Kelli (20:59.138)
and stop her.

Yeah.

Kelli (21:06.742)
Ubaha. She is Ubaha.

We Wine Whenever (21:11.57)
Then Andy brings up again the conversation by the pool and that Erin, know, not telling Jessel the true story about what she had to do in that conversation. And even then she's kind of hesitant to apologize, but she does finally. She said, yeah, you know, was first she said I was sitting there and then Sy said you were a part of it. And she said, yeah, okay, I was a part of it. But she really was still reluctant to own her part in it.

Kelli (21:25.837)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (21:37.377)
It's ridiculous.

We Wine Whenever (21:40.272)
And then Oopa's like jumping in on that bandwagon. Like she's annoyed with Erin about it too. Like, like why did you go there with Brynn? She's saying to Erin, I'm like, wait a second, you're not owning your shit and now you're giving Erin shit for not owning her shit, but you didn't own your shit either. So it's like.

Kelli (21:57.272)
Right.

Kelli (22:00.874)
It's a do as I say, not as I do situation.

We Wine Whenever (22:03.793)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (22:08.411)
then what happens?

Kelli (22:13.58)
Uba apologized for her authenticity. I'm sorry for my authenticity.

We Wine Whenever (22:18.266)
Yes. That's Uba. Yes. Then Andy brings up the accusation that was made about Uba. Can you clarify for us when you told Uba about the sexual assaults? And Andy said, there's no one here that doubts that that happened to you. And Brynn says, yeah, it was a week before BravoCon. She'd just gotten a phone call from a family member.

Kelli (22:20.93)
Great apology.

We Wine Whenever (22:47.89)
that had purchased a gun and didn't know if that person was dead or not. I called Uba. I was talking to her on the phone. She said, I'll get you a car. Do you want me to? I'll just, and then I started screaming. Why is this happening to me? This is my fucking childhood dude. Dude beat me up in college. I was raped. I was literally word vomiting. You know, why is this my life? And you know, maybe she didn't catch it.

I'll tell, I'll say that maybe she didn't hear, know, to give her the benefit of the doubt. And the ladies are like, no, that's no. And then she's going on to say that Uber was, you know, running after me and, and then Uber's then that's when Uber loses it. saw what you texted her that I was violent towards you to Aaron.

Kelli (23:39.85)
Everything Brynn said about that night was completely different than everyone else's story, right?

We Wine Whenever (23:45.422)
Right, right. And we were, for a big part of it, relying on their stories because it wasn't actually on camera. mean, running in the hallway was on camera and she wasn't running, she was just walking and she was yelling, but she wasn't, you know, attacking her physically. She was yelling like...

Kelli (23:53.571)
Right.

Kelli (23:58.732)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (24:03.886)
She was getting close to her to get in her face, but that's because Bryn kept running away. I mean, aggressive a little, but violent, no.

We Wine Whenever (24:07.942)
Yes. Yes. Yeah. No, no, no. And then Janice says, you told us she might not have clocked it and that felt reckless. And then, know, Brynn's crying and she's like, well, why wasn't the reaction, you ladies to come comfort me? And like, why, why?

When I say something, you assume that I know it. And Andy asks Uba, does she remember the call before BravoCon? And Uba's like, yeah, I remember it. And you never told me. You never told me. And that's what.

Kelli (24:50.178)
I feel like that would have been a word that would stick out and you would be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, back up.

We Wine Whenever (24:55.078)
Yes, stopped her.

Right. Right.

Or even if you didn't in that moment, because she was a lunatic, it would have been a conversation later. And this is the thing, I don't know if you realize this, but in the beginning of the season, when she started doing this book and she was talking to the ghostwriter or her editor, I'm not sure what it was, but anyway, when she's talking to that person about the situation,

Kelli (25:04.661)
eventually.

We Wine Whenever (25:25.008)
She had already met with her brother in the park and they were sitting on the bench and she told her brother that she had not told anybody, that he was the only one who knew this story. So when was the lie? Was it then when she told her brother that? Or was it when she said she told Uba? Like, which is more likely?

Kelli (25:30.424)
Yes. Yes. I do remember that.

Kelli (25:45.462)
For sure. When she told, yeah. Yeah, I don't think she ever said it to Uba. That's something she would have remembered and addressed, like you said, either then or at a later time.

We Wine Whenever (25:46.353)
when she told Uber.

We Wine Whenever (25:52.878)
No. Right.

We Wine Whenever (25:58.554)
Right, right. And I don't know why they didn't bring that up, to be honest with you. Like, why didn't they? Yeah, why didn't they bring that up? Maybe because it was

Kelli (26:05.226)
at the reunion. Yeah, like why didn't somebody say, you sat on a bench and said to your brother, you're the only one I've told.

We Wine Whenever (26:13.37)
Right. And now you expect us to believe that you told Uwe. And BravoCon would have been before that scene was filmed, because that scene was this season. And BravoCon was before the season.

Kelli (26:21.579)
Exactly.

Yep. Yep.

We Wine Whenever (26:26.16)
So, you know, something's off. Yeah.

Kelli (26:27.608)
Something's off. Something's definitely off with her.

We Wine Whenever (26:37.404)
Sai says to her, know, don't you see that this is not okay? And that's when Brynn says, this is when she kind of like cowers down. She's like, this is getting to be too much. And then Uba says, I forgive you and we will never, we will never go back. I want to go back to when I didn't know who the fuck you were. And listen, those were harsh words, but that's what she felt at the time. That's what she felt. And I'm glad that she got that out. But Uba said, you know,

Brynn said no one reached out to me. And then Erin is like, I reached out to you until you blocked me. Jenna's like, I reached out to you. Yeah, I reached out to you.

Kelli (27:11.188)
And Jenna. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (27:16.261)
And then.

Kelli (27:16.662)
It's just like her saying in the beginning that Erin and Sy made the first five weeks of filming miserable for her. It's just, it's a victim mentality. And this has nothing to do with her essay. Obviously she was a victim in that scenario. I just mean, in this group of girls, she plays the victim. But yet she's the mean girl stirring up all the problem, all the problems. Like she really needs to go talk to somebody. She really needs a counselor, a therapist.

We Wine Whenever (27:22.3)
Right.

Right.

We Wine Whenever (27:37.222)
Yes, that's exactly what happens.

We Wine Whenever (27:46.418)
I mean, I think she has a counselor. think maybe she needs another one.

Kelli (27:50.336)
Yeah, because that's not good behavior. That's not adult behavior.

We Wine Whenever (27:51.942)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (27:57.264)
Yeah, I agree.

Kelli (27:57.61)
It's not good adult behavior, let's put it that way. There are some adults who act that way. I know a few, but.

We Wine Whenever (28:00.315)
Right, no, I took.

We Wine Whenever (28:04.818)
Andy asked Erin, you know, her intentions were hoping that they would get some resolution. And she said, yeah, that she was hoping that maybe that acknowledging that Uber didn't know and apologizing to Uber. And Brynn said she acknowledged, you know, that Uber didn't know. And then Uber got up and went over there and hugged her and said, you know, I forgive you. I forgive you.

And then Brynn said, listen, I knew Uba would kill for me. Like, that's why I called her. I knew Uba. And Uba said that. She's like, I, know, don't you tell me where he is because I will wind up in jail. Don't let me know who this person is because he will not be here anymore. Then he calls, Andy calls for a break and Uba and Brynn are still out there on the couch and they're still talking. And I really thought Uba was being so kind. I really did. And the other ladies were like, I can't believe, you know, Uba's doing that.

Kelli (28:42.178)
Right. Right.

Kelli (28:55.447)
I did too.

We Wine Whenever (29:01.392)
And I'll be honest with you, after we watched the reunion, when it ended, I really thought that they were going to move forward. I did, I didn't think that it was that fractured because, listen, Ube said it's gonna take time. I get that it's gonna take time. But no, according to them, they haven't talked to each other since the taping. And now that's gotta have been at least a month or two at this point.

Kelli (29:16.823)
Yeah.

Kelli (29:26.488)
Yeah, but why would they talk to each other? You know what I mean? Like, it's not like they're gonna get to- they're not filming. They're not gonna get together and go anywhere.

We Wine Whenever (29:28.954)
Because, well, they're not filming, I mean, they're not filming, but why not? Why not reach out? Why not go have a cup of coffee and meet up and try and move forward? If you really care. So I'm not saying Uber's gonna be cool, but why not the rest of them?

Kelli (29:43.5)
I don't think Uber's gonna be cool like that yet.

Kelli (29:51.07)
the rest of them, yes, I'm sorry. I thought you were talking about Uba and Brynn specifically. I mean, it's only been a month or so. I mean, let it...

We Wine Whenever (29:53.874)
No, I'm talking about any of them. None of them have talked to her.

We Wine Whenever (30:03.506)
I don't know. I mean, Raquel, then Raquel went, know, because then they did go in the back and Raquel was hugging her and, you know, she was acknowledging, you know, that her heart was broken for her and that she felt it. know, Brynn said to her, feel like you feel it, like implying that she had also been essayed. And...

Kelli (30:04.482)
Let it settle, I guess.

Kelli (30:26.157)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (30:30.96)
you know, that it hits you close to home and Raquel said yes. And then they walk back on stage, like holding hands and laughing those two. And then those two don't talk again. Like, I just feel like...

Kelli (30:40.707)
Yeah.

So how do you know that Brynn hasn't talked to anybody? Did she say it?

We Wine Whenever (30:47.888)
Well, no, they've said it.

Kelli (30:50.371)
well, that's right. When they were on Watch What Happens Live.

We Wine Whenever (30:51.324)
They

Yeah, yeah, they said it when they were on watch.

Kelli (30:56.344)
Jenna was on and Jessel and Raquel were in the audience and yeah, they all said nobody.

We Wine Whenever (31:00.41)
And they said it and then they gave that gift to Bosma and Bryn's name wasn't on it. The birthday gift. Yeah, everyone's name was on it. Yep, everyone's name, but Bryn's name wasn't on it. And then there was something else that was mentioned and they have not talked to Bryn. None of them.

Kelli (31:06.573)
I didn't catch that.

Kelli (31:20.546)
I wonder if she's not coming back.

We Wine Whenever (31:23.782)
Well, they've said that we don't know who's coming back. Like, they haven't, nobody's gotten a contract yet. No one knows when season 16's starting or what's going on. We saw that they put out the casting call. I don't know if you saw this, but they asked Lindsay Hubbard if she would like to be on The Real Housewives of New York. And her response was, well, really it's not my decision. She's like, I don't know if going back to Summer House, because her and her...

Kelli (31:32.003)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (31:52.4)
Baby daddy are broken up. They just recently broke up. Did you see that?

Kelli (31:56.642)
I did see that. Why would they ask Lindsay to go on Housewives?

We Wine Whenever (31:59.954)
because she's a New York girl. I mean, she's more their age. Well, I mean, but listen, Rin's not a housewife. Ubi's not a housewife.

Kelli (32:01.87)
She's not a housewife though. It's so annoying. Like can we get people with families and kids? No, I know. I know. But at least, I don't know. It's kind of, I don't know. I'm just not a Lindsay fan, so I'm not really here for that. But whatever. Amanda, well I can't stand fucking Kyle, but I'd like to see Amanda on there.

We Wine Whenever (32:20.24)
I know, I know you're not.

Sheet.

We Wine Whenever (32:31.794)
Speaking of that, boy, Paige is getting a lot of crap.

Kelli (32:35.074)
we gotta talk about that when we're done here. Let's talk about that because did you see Craig on Watch What Happens Live this week?

We Wine Whenever (32:37.114)
Okay, we will. Yay.

yes, I did. All right, let's finish this one up. Okay. Okay. All right. So they go back out. told you Raquel and Bryn are holding hands. And then Andy says like, there anything, you know, we want to say like to wrap this up? And so I said she, she wants to, you know, she talked a lot about Erin and that she's sorry and that

Kelli (32:43.392)
I'm Team Craig, all the way by the way.

Yeah, let's talk about that.

We Wine Whenever (33:06.022)
You know, she really had her back this season. So I apologize to Erin and Uba says the same thing to Erin. She also apologized and Jenna said through a lot of therapy, she's learned that you can be upset and sad with somebody and still love them. And she's, you know, talking about Brynn. We all care about you deeply. Two things can be true. Brynn said, I'm horribly sorry for multiple things, but especially with Jessel. So I'm going to fix that. I'm sorry to Uba.

Kelli (33:22.019)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (33:33.414)
The one thing I wanted the most in the last several months was just a hug from Uva, which she did get. I want to be better friends to you guys. So we're in hug, sigh and says, I miss you. and she's like, we are funny together. So I says to her, now this is after it wraps. we need to work on some things and that's pretty much how it ended. You know, they are. Yeah. But I, I want them to actually try and work on the things because I don't.

Kelli (33:52.152)
Yeah.

Kelli (33:55.522)
That was a good response from Psy though.

We Wine Whenever (34:02.232)
I honestly, I don't want them to write off Brynn. I think I'd like to see Brynn come back with a redemption season. I'd like to see Brynn come back humble. I'd like to see, listen, I know that's a lot. I don't know.

Kelli (34:13.774)
I know, well that's the thing, is that what we're gonna get? I think Sai meant like, can't base our friendship on talking shit about our friends. Because that's basically what it was.

We Wine Whenever (34:22.386)
yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's what it was. They were, yeah. So we'll have to see what happens with New York. I think it's very much so up in the air. have no idea who's coming back. We only know that Rebecca's not. And that's pretty much all we know. Yeah, exactly. So yeah, let's talk about Paige and Craig on Summer House.

Kelli (34:30.263)
now.

Kelli (34:37.304)
Yeah. Run, Rebecca, run.

Kelli (34:47.704)
So I thought Craig's response to Andy when Andy said, I don't know what he asked Craig, but Craig was like, it's not my business. It's not. And he's like, of course it's your business. And Craig's like, no, it's not. I'm the ex-boyfriend I got broken up with. It's not my job to now go defend her. First of all, nobody ever said she cheated on him. You know that, right? She's the one who went on her podcast and put that

you know, whatever, disclaimer out. Like, I'm gonna address this now, whatever she said, but she's the one that said somebody said she cheated. Austin never said that. All Austin said was, I believe Craig has come to terms with the fact that she's with somebody now. Nobody ever mentioned cheating. So I agree with Craig. He said, why is it my responsibility to defend her for something? I didn't say it. I'm not saying it.

We Wine Whenever (35:45.925)
Right.

Kelli (35:45.994)
I'm not going on all social media outlets to defend her. That's asinine. Exactly. And I haven't seen her cast mates come out and say things about him, but I'm sure they have.

We Wine Whenever (35:50.054)
Not my job. Right, that's not my job. No, I agree with him.

We Wine Whenever (35:59.494)
Amanda came out. The question he was asked was about Amanda. Amanda came out and said, why isn't he defending her? Why isn't he saying that there was no cheating? It was Amanda that came out with that. And yeah, no, it's not his job. And she even said, you know, they were together for three years. You think he'd have her back. Well, I get it. He's upset. He's sad. He didn't want the breakup. He was blindsided. He was blindsided.

Kelli (36:10.338)
Yeah, no, go away Amanda, because that's not his job.

We Wine Whenever (36:28.152)
That being said, I personally think he was blindsided, but she was always telling him what her expectation was. Because I'm watching her this season, even on Southern Charm, when she's saying, you say to me today, we have to get married and have kids tomorrow, I'm saying goodbye to you, because that's not where I'm at.

Kelli (36:49.186)
I agree with you, she was very upfront about that. However, she must have been saying other things to him too, to make him think that ultimately she was going to settle down with him.

We Wine Whenever (36:55.696)
Well.

We Wine Whenever (36:59.996)
Well, we're going to have to see because I understand that Southern Charm cameras pick back up after the breakup. And that's where we see what's coming up in the attractions about, she said she wanted me to buy her a ring. She told me to plan a vacation. So that must have happened that we don't know about. So let's see that. And, you know, I'm open to it. But I do think that prior to hearing those two things, that everything I've seen from her, she's been pretty upfront and, you know, forward with him that I'm not ready to do this yet.

I don't want to move to South Carolina. But he says to Andy, I was planning on moving to New York and Andy knew that to be true.

Kelli (37:37.26)
And everyone on his cast knew that to be true. Everyone. I've seen Austin say it. I've seen Shep say it. I've seen Leva say it. Craig's gonna move to New York.

We Wine Whenever (37:45.627)
Right.

Right.

Kelli (37:49.484)
So, I don't know, man, I'm Team Craig.

We Wine Whenever (37:53.136)
Yeah, well, I guess we'll have to-

Kelli (37:54.582)
And I like Paige, I'm not saying I don't like Paige, I'm just saying she fucked around and found out, I think, now. Because she said too much on her podcast. She should have done what he did. She should have kept her mouth shut. Especially if she's the one that initiated it. This is the problem though. This is the problem with Bravo, this is the problem with social media. Nobody can keep their damn mouth shut.

We Wine Whenever (38:19.516)
Well, that is a problem. But I mean, she has a platform, she has a podcast. she, I mean, he has a podcast too. He could have talked about it.

Kelli (38:21.077)
It is.

Kelli (38:25.838)
She should have just went on her podcast and been like, listen, it was time, you know, yeah. She didn't, mean, his thing was she said it was mutual, it was not mutual. And I'm sure she said it was mutual out of respect for him, so it didn't look like he got dumped, you know? But the cheating thing, she took that and ran. And to me, that makes her look guilty.

We Wine Whenever (38:29.938)
Great, just made us, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (38:37.072)
Right.

100%. Right.

We Wine Whenever (38:51.132)
Well, I don't think she took it and ran so much as her friends were jumping on it. Like, I don't think she, I think that, you know, like that was Amanda that made that comment.

Kelli (38:55.981)
Maybe.

Kelli (39:00.12)
But she, but Paige said on her podcast, I have never physically cheated on Craig. have never meant to, know, emotionally cheated on Craig. So she addressed it. She should never have addressed it.

We Wine Whenever (39:07.428)
Emotionally cheated.

We Wine Whenever (39:12.432)
The thing is though, people were, before even Austin was on, people were saying that because they saw her out with guys. So they were saying that she cheated before Austin was on Watch What Happens Live.

Kelli (39:26.478)
But I don't think anybody said she cheated. All they said was she was with someone now.

We Wine Whenever (39:29.18)
yes, they did. No, people were implying that she had cheated because it was so soon after they broke up and they didn't realize that they had been broken up for a month.

Kelli (39:40.408)
But Craig never addressed a cheating rumor. Craig addressed the rumor that she was dating someone now, soon after she and Craig broke up.

We Wine Whenever (39:52.048)
Yeah.

Kelli (39:54.252)
I mean, I thought everything Craig said was perfect. Like he was like, she, know, love is enough. You make it work. And it's not that she doesn't want those things. She doesn't want those things with me.

We Wine Whenever (40:02.587)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (40:11.728)
I think that...

I think that she just wasn't ready. I think she wasn't ready. You know, I don't...

Kelli (40:19.798)
Right. And honestly, after three years, if you're not ready, then it's probably not meant to be with him.

We Wine Whenever (40:28.155)
Right, right.

Kelli (40:29.782)
He is a decent amount older than her.

We Wine Whenever (40:32.402)
He's not that much older than her. No! No. No.

Kelli (40:33.751)
Well, it's gotta be ten years. He's forty, isn't he?

I thought it was like a 10 year age difference.

We Wine Whenever (40:40.311)
No, no, no, it's not. It's not that much. It's not that big of a difference.

Kelli (40:45.262)
Because he's obviously ready, well according to Austin, he's always ready. He's always been ready to settle down.

We Wine Whenever (41:03.292)
So pages 30. Yeah, pages 32.

Kelli (41:03.67)
He's only three years older than her? I thought she was 30 and he was nearing 40.

We Wine Whenever (41:10.226)
No, she's 32. No, it's not a huge age difference. And you know what?

Kelli (41:18.018)
really thought it was a lot more than that. Not because they look at either just

We Wine Whenever (41:19.662)
No, it's not. It's not a big age difference. Well, because he's such a man child. And like you said, he's not now. He's not now, but she's the one who got him there. And maybe she's like, listen, I don't want to have to do this. Like maybe at this, maybe at 32 years old, like I want to have a family and I want to have a family with someone who's already established and like is ready, not.

Kelli (41:25.942)
He's not but that's the thing like he's kind of not anymore. Yeah

We Wine Whenever (41:47.526)
because I just got them to be ready? I don't know. I don't know.

Kelli (41:52.502)
Yeah, but I mean, I got the impression from Austin, like, Craig was ready to settle down with Naomi, but he really wasn't.

We Wine Whenever (42:01.368)
Naomi. Who is Naomi? No.

Kelli (42:01.602)
He really wasn't. his, you didn't watch Southern Charm from the beginning. Naomi was his long-term girlfriend on earlier seasons.

We Wine Whenever (42:13.892)
Okay, no, see, I just started watching Southern Charm last year. So we can talk about that quickly, because I don't even know how long we've been doing this. can't see. What did you think about Whitney? He was totally trashed, right?

Kelli (42:17.975)
Yeah.

Kelli (42:28.942)
Whoa.

And listen, it's great. mean, no judgment on you being trashed, but the things he was saying.

We Wine Whenever (42:40.548)
I know, so obnoxious.

Kelli (42:42.516)
He should not drink. If that's how you get when you drink, you should not drink. If you start insulting your friends, I he was really being mean and Shep just took it.

We Wine Whenever (42:52.742)
He was. This is what I know. This is what I wanted to ask you, because like I said, this is only my second year watching it. Was he like this before?

Kelli (43:00.002)
I've never seen him like that on camera before. But know, Whitney started this show, you know that, right? He's the executive producer, he's obviously got more money than they'll ever know what to do with, and he's into all this filmmaking, he's always at film festivals. This was his baby, he started this. So yes, he's on it, but he's more behind the scenes, like he's never at a reunion.

We Wine Whenever (43:02.501)
Okay.

him and his mother, right?

We Wine Whenever (43:12.881)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (43:18.521)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (43:25.052)
Right.

Kelli (43:28.236)
So, Whitney's not going anywhere. This is his show. He could do whatever the eff he wants, but I've never seen him, I'm sure I've seen him inebriated before, but I've never seen him. This season, two times they got him on camera. The one time was saying to Molly that was the last thing she needed was to eat a cupcake.

We Wine Whenever (43:44.633)
that was another horrible scene.

Kelli (43:46.454)
Yeah, and then this with Shep. But you know, he's part of the editing and he's part of all that. So the problem with this scene, they couldn't cut it out because it was all of them together. It was Patricia's dinner. It was key to what was going on. It's key to the storyline right now with Shep and his girlfriend. So they couldn't edit it out. Who knows how many times he's been inebriated and said inappropriate things and they probably edited it out.

We Wine Whenever (44:01.372)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (44:08.295)
Yeah.

Kelli (44:16.332)
you could tell Patricia could not get out of that room fast enough. She was trying to get him to go to sleep so she could stay and entertain, but that wasn't happening. So she made the right move, Patricia.

We Wine Whenever (44:20.868)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (44:26.808)
Yeah, she certainly did. Yeah, that was bad. That was bad.

Kelli (44:29.762)
Yeah. Is Shep still with his girlfriend? No, right?

We Wine Whenever (44:34.086)
I can't imagine. I mean, how could he be? She was using him. Yeah, she was using him.

Kelli (44:36.898)
Yeah, she was an opportunist. yeah. Would they say her grandmother was like the president of the Southern Charm fan club? I don't know if it's true, but it's pretty funny that Madison said that.

We Wine Whenever (44:45.074)
That's so funny. I love Madison. She's actually my favorite. She really is my favorite.

Kelli (44:51.64)
pizza

She's come around, again, in earlier seasons, they made her look like a villain, but she's come around. She's definitely one of my favorites too.

We Wine Whenever (44:56.324)
I know you said that.

We Wine Whenever (45:03.91)
And then JT and Vanita, I mean, that's craziness.

Kelli (45:10.04)
He just cannot do anything right, JT. He should... It was a good move, him exiting the show.

We Wine Whenever (45:12.934)
No.

We Wine Whenever (45:17.712)
Yeah. I guess it's happening soon, right? Because we haven't seen a maxit yet.

Kelli (45:21.518)
Yeah, no, we haven't and I think he's in the coming attractions.

We Wine Whenever (45:24.678)
And then he makes it to the reunion. they just filmed the reunion the same day that they did watch What Happens Live. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I have the reunion seating chart, but you who wasn't there is Ryan. Ryan's not there. Yeah. So I don't know. I guess he was just a friend of, I have no idea.

Kelli (45:26.841)
he does? He was at the reunion?

Kelli (45:31.534)
Craig was on Watch What Happens Live. Yes, I knew that, but I did not hear them say that JT was there. Okay, good.

Kelli (45:41.656)
really?

Kelli (45:46.518)
Yeah, maybe. I really hope they don't bring Taylor back. And honestly, they shouldn't bring Taylor back. She didn't show us anything about her life.

We Wine Whenever (45:54.796)
No, that's so complicated, her and Gaston and yeah.

Kelli (45:57.826)
Gaston, yeah. Yeah, I'm hoping we, I like that Sally. I like that girl Sally. I'd rather see her on it than Taylor. Yeah, I'm not a fan of Taylor. And I know Shep did her dirty. You know, I feel bad about that. But she doesn't bring anything. And Shep's not going anywhere.

We Wine Whenever (46:03.407)
I like Sally too.

We Wine Whenever (46:07.844)
I agree. I completely agree.

We Wine Whenever (46:19.034)
No. and what about Thomas Ravenel is running for governor? What was it?

Kelli (46:26.666)
I did not see that. That's a joke, right?

We Wine Whenever (46:29.316)
No, didn't, didn't cousin Gina send us that? Wait a second. Let me check.

Kelli (46:32.2)
maybe. I can't keep up with the. I can't keep up with the. On the weekend, you know, when I'm at the salon, I can't look. And then I forget by the time I get home.

We Wine Whenever (46:43.108)
I know, know, I know, let's see.

Listen, I get it. get it. Here we go. Thomas Ravenel.

We Wine Whenever (46:56.56)
Governor.

Kelli (46:58.457)
of South Carolina.

We Wine Whenever (47:02.61)
2026. Yep.

Kelli (47:04.888)
Who the hell would vote for him?

We Wine Whenever (47:07.591)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (47:09.528)
What is going on?

We Wine Whenever (47:12.55)
Yep. Governor of South Carolina. He's running in 2026. Thomas Ravenel. I don't know, but we'll have to wait and see what happens.

Kelli (47:16.398)
Who would fault for him?

Kelli (47:22.904)
Somebody would vote for him. Somebody will vote for him. my goodness.

We Wine Whenever (47:29.18)
Listen, our president is a reality star, anything is possible, right? Anything's possible.

Kelli (47:32.174)
That's very true. I'm glad you brought that up. I didn't realize, but everybody's telling me Trump's going to the Super Bowl, which I could care less. But I went to ShopRite today as I do every Sunday morning. And normally I am thrilled by the playlist in there, 70s and 80s music from my childhood. And I'm jamming out as I'm food shopping. Guess what they were playing today? Taylor Swift.

We Wine Whenever (47:45.114)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (47:57.65)
What were they playing? no. no.

Kelli (48:00.512)
I have never once in my life, it's Super Bowl Sunday by the way everybody. I'm sorry, it's big game Sunday.

We Wine Whenever (48:08.279)
wait, wait, wait, why we don't call it Super Bowl?

Kelli (48:10.594)
No, you can't say it. Remember that Jersey Shore episode where they couldn't say it? we can?

We Wine Whenever (48:13.558)
yeah. Well, we can say it. Why can't we? You think the Super Bowl is going to come after us?

Kelli (48:19.286)
I really hope not. I got nothing. But by the way, NFL, if you're paying attention, you fucking rob my team the bills.

We Wine Whenever (48:28.188)
Show them your team. What do you got on there? She's still wearing a Bill shirt. Okay.

Kelli (48:30.132)
Got my shirt on. I had a principal today. I wore it on purpose and I took my jacket off and walked around shop right where.

We Wine Whenever (48:37.414)
Yeah.

Kelli (48:41.006)
I couldn't believe I said so I go to the cashier. I said you poor thing. You got to listen to Taylor Swift all day today She just laughed. She probably didn't know what I was referring to She's like, yeah, guess I don't know. I just want to get the fuck out of here

We Wine Whenever (48:41.984)
Thank

We Wine Whenever (48:48.146)
What'd say?

She's like, another crazy, crazy lady. Yeah.

Kelli (48:59.822)
my god. So is Bill cooking today?

We Wine Whenever (49:04.89)
yes, we have wings and nachos and, I don't even know what else he's got going on. soup. He's making another pot of soup. So yeah.

Kelli (49:15.0)
That's so funny. So Eric, I'm making pulled barbecue chicken in the crock pot and we got guacamole and cornbread and stuff like that. And we're gonna do loaded tots and Eric made bean soup today. I'm like, okay.

We Wine Whenever (49:20.518)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (49:32.732)
That's an odd mixture with that. Okay.

Kelli (49:34.616)
sure it's, but if he wants to cook, I'm here for it. Yep. Cause we'll have all enough leftovers for days. Yep.

We Wine Whenever (49:38.566)
There you go. There you go.

There you go, perfect. Okay, well until next time, I would say please give us some five star reviews. And if you're listening to this episode on Tuesday, on Wednesday we will be dropping Salt Lake City. And then on Thursday we're re-dropping an episode we did of Wendy Williams a while back. I think we did it last March. So take a listen to those. Yeah, until next time.

Kelli (50:09.038)
It was a while ago, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (50:12.678)
Bye.

Kelli (50:13.314)
bye.