RHOSLC-Reunion Part 3-Bravo's Business: Product Placement in Reality TV

RHOSLC-Reunion Part 3-Bravo's Business: Product Placement in Reality TV

In this episode of We Wine Whenever, Lori and Kelli dive into the drama of the Salt Lake City Reunion, discussing the outrageous entrances, relationship dynamics, and the implications of Bravo's product placements. They analyze the toxic relationship between Brittany and Jared, Brittany's confusing statements about her estrangement from her daughters, and the bizarre accusations thrown around during the reunion. The conversation wraps up with humorous takes on dog bite safety tips and the absurdity of reality TV antics. In this episode, Lori and Kelli discuss the latest drama from the Salt Lake City Housewives, touching on various themes such as personal accountability, the dynamics of friendships, and the impact of past actions on current relationships. They delve into specific incidents involving Lisa, Meredith, and Mary, exploring the implications of their actions and comments throughout the season. The conversation highlights the complexities of reality TV relationships and the emotional toll they can take on the participants.

Takeaways

• The reunion showcased a lot of manufactured drama.
• Bravo's involvement in product placements is evident.
• Jared's behavior raises questions about his character.
• Brittany's relationship status is confusing and questionable.
• Bronwyn's accusations add to the reunion's tension.
• The dynamics of estrangement were explored in depth.
• The conversation highlighted the absurdity of reality TV.
• Humor was a key element in discussing serious topics.
• The hosts provided insightful commentary on the cast's actions.
• The episode ended with a light-hearted discussion about dog safety. The dog bite incident sparked a lot of laughter and disbelief.
• Lisa's tendency to play the victim was a recurring theme.
• Meredith's interactions with Brittany showcased underlying tensions.
• Jen Shah's accountability for her actions was a significant point of discussion.
• Whitney and Lisa's argument highlighted unresolved issues between them.
• Mary's comebacks were a highlight of the reunion.
• Meredith's reaction to accusations raised questions about her authenticity.
• Lisa's comments about trafficking were deemed insensitive by the hosts.
• The superiority complex of Meredith and Lisa was evident throughout the discussion.
• The season provided insights into family dynamics and personal struggles.

Transcript

Lori (00:01.365)
Hi, welcome to, sorry. my gosh, so funny. Okay, let's try this again. Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever. I'm Lori and we have no Wendy this evening. She's ill, hence our technical difficulties on knowing who we are and who's gonna start what. But tonight we are gonna do.

Kelli (00:01.718)
I will.

Kelli (00:05.475)
Take it.

We'll edit that out.

Kelli (00:16.383)
I'm Kelly.

Lori (00:29.109)
Part 3 of Salt Lake City Reunion. This was quite the episode. So, you know, she was so crazy how she wanted to like have this grand entrance.

Kelli (00:34.625)
Yep.

Kelli (00:39.778)
Yeah.

Lori (00:51.827)
Right?

Kelli (00:53.198)
She's just thirsty. The thirst is real, people.

Lori (00:55.037)
So thirsty and and yeah, and he says hide your wine bottles and make sure all recording devices are turned off when she came on. That was pretty funny. That was pretty funny.

Kelli (01:07.438)
How about the dress thing with Angie? So they both showed up at the same dress?

Lori (01:10.893)
I think that's bullshit. These things are so, come on, these things are so produced. Those producers know what those girls are wearing. They have to because it's all like color coded and themed and so I think that was a bunch of hoo-ha.

Kelli (01:13.57)
Do you?

Kelli (01:26.503)
It is color coded.

Kelli (01:31.116)
I'm gonna tell you something interesting. You know how like big brother's always listening and you think about something and then all of a sudden it's on your Facebook feed? Ever since that reunion, it keeps coming up. I don't know if it's Saks Fifth Avenue. I don't know what store is coming up on my Facebook feed, but that dress came up. I believe it's Oscar de la Renta and it's $10,000.

Lori (01:39.397)
huh, huh.

Lori (01:58.394)
huh.

Kelli (02:01.686)
I don't know why it's coming up on my feed. I'm not buying a $10,000 dress. My wedding dress was $1,200.

Lori (02:07.378)
I'm telling you.

It's crazy. Now you see how Andy asked her if she use the Kerataz Thermoteak? So like is Bravo getting some kind of cut?

Kelli (02:12.269)
Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (02:17.582)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (02:23.857)
Is Bravo getting some kind of cut?

Kelli (02:26.158)
They put at this, well, yes they are because of the Bethany clause. Because if Lisa is now doing a deal with Carastase, Bravo was in on a deal with Carastase. So yeah, they are getting a cut. Yeah.

Lori (02:32.153)
Mm-hmm. Yes. Yes.

So yeah, they are. And hence why they had that, hence why they last reunion number two, that they featured the Vita tequila because they're getting it caught. There you go.

Kelli (02:53.635)
yeah, but see that? But she had Vita Tequila before she joined the show. She did. She did. But who knows, maybe they are, you know, they're pushing it for some reason. They did the whole trip. They had the big Vita with the letters.

Lori (02:59.704)
she did? Okay. Okay. So was just like, hmm.

Lori (03:09.981)
Yeah, I'm just saying I don't know what's going on with that and Heather says ding ding ding

Kelli (03:11.916)
Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. and Jared was supposed to be there and then he canceled his ticket.

Lori (03:25.597)
Yeah, okay.

Kelli (03:28.29)
That guy's a fucking tool.

Lori (03:30.549)
Absolutely. So, you know, and they show the thing where production showed the thing where they showed Jared's text. And he's saying that she's so damaged from her past relationships that she makes him out to be the bad guy and how he needs he needs a date a stable woman. He's such a tool, such a tool.

Kelli (03:53.944)
That was horrible. He is because...

Kelli (04:00.95)
It could very well be true that Brittany is an unstable person, but when you're dating somebody who does not commit to you and plays major games with you, it can make you unstable. So what came first, the chicken or the egg? Was she unstable or are you such a douchebag to date that you made her unstable?

Lori (04:12.966)
absolutely. yeah.

Yeah.

Lori (04:22.069)
So Brittany says her and Jared have been broken up since June and they had a couple of false starts. She is just an idiot, an absolute idiot.

Kelli (04:32.834)
Well, when she said that, everybody was like, but wait a minute, I saw you here with him and you were there with him and you were there with him after June.

Lori (04:41.001)
yeah, she's a train wreck is what she is. Yeah, that's what I have here that the girls say that they've seen her out with Jared and she goes, but those were us, that was his friends. And then did you hear Mary says they were making out?

Kelli (04:44.12)
she is.

Kelli (04:58.32)
Yes.

Lori (05:04.245)
And then you see how production pushed out that little heading on the screen that says they are an official couple after the reunion.

Kelli (05:14.306)
yes, yes, they went official on Instagram. Which at their age, really are you doing, are you really doing this? Like you're going official on social media? They're older than, he's gotta be older than me, right?

Lori (05:15.038)
yeah. Mm-hmm.

Lori (05:22.389)
Yeah, I know, right?

Lori (05:28.231)
It's so cringy. It is so cringy.

Kelli (05:30.19)
I mean, if they're not 50, they're close to it.

I mean, at least he has to be.

Lori (05:37.639)
And so, you know, Andy's asking her why that they broke up. And she's like, it's the same old thing that she keeps finding texts on his phone from single women. And Heather goes, well, is he like deleting, deleting, deleting his texts? Remember like when they had the big thing about Britney recording?

Kelli (05:57.998)
What did that mean? I didn't catch that.

Lori (06:06.151)
And she was like, the delete, the deleted, deleted, delete. That's pretty funny. That was pretty funny. Yeah. Yeah. I thought that was pretty funny. let's see. Andy asks if Bronwen still thinks that Brittany is more interested in Jared for his name. And, Andy points out that the internet seems to agree with Bronwen. And, I don't know. I, I.

Kelli (06:06.606)
yes.

Yes, yes, yes. Okay. I did not catch that. That went right over my head.

Kelli (06:34.339)
Yeah.

Lori (06:35.089)
Who knows with her where her interests lie in him because I don't know.

Kelli (06:42.924)
Yeah, I agree. I do think it has something to do with the Osmond name, but I also think that she's just that girl that when she catches feelings for somebody, like she's, you know, submissive in the relationship.

Lori (06:44.723)
You know, I don't know.

Lori (06:56.73)
most definitely.

Kelli (06:59.16)
How about Britany accusing Bronwyn of contacting her daughters?

Lori (07:07.931)
yeah, that was all a weird thing. That was a weird thing. Yeah, she's, she's crazy. Let's see what I got next.

Kelli (07:10.498)
What the hell was that all about?

Lori (07:23.839)
So we definitely know that, I mean, Brahman definitely puts it out there, if we go back to Jared real quick, that Jesus thinks he's like the worst of the worst.

Kelli (07:34.956)
Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (07:36.521)
that he won't claim Britney publicly and treat her poorly.

It's just that, you know, he said mean things about, Brittany on Twitter and then production shows the post where he says, that, Brittany adds drama for no reason and attempt to be relevant. He said he had never walked away from her, but I don't even know what that means and has never broken up with her. But, you know,

I don't know. He claims he's always been steady and spoiled her over the past year, paid for everything and has been a true gentleman. And he says, rather than her just being steady with him and working through these dating issues, she runs away like a scared child. Like this is the text that production showed on screen that he said about her. Like, how could you be with somebody?

Kelli (08:38.188)
Yeah, working through relationship issues are those issues you contacting other women to hook up? Because if those are the issues, then I don't blame her for running away like a little child, because one, that's fucking hurtful. And two, she should not be working through anything with you. I mean, we know she does, but she shouldn't be, because that's ridiculous.

Lori (08:46.623)
Yeah, I mean like come on.

Lori (08:56.426)
Yeah!

Lori (09:03.199)
Right.

Lori (09:06.505)
And then Brahman says that Jared has come for everybody on the show and that Jared called her a treacherous bitch. But then production shows the post and he says, there's really something off about you and I think I figured it out. You are a tragic little bitch. But still, mean, what an asshole. What an asshole.

Kelli (09:28.162)
Not great. Right, exactly. Exactly.

Lori (09:33.053)
and then production flashes back to the after show where Brahman talks about how she's telling Whitney how she overheard a conversation that Jared has a micro penis. That was pretty funny. Heather's acting all indignant about putting the words micro and penis and Osmond in the same sentence. But you know, they have this weird Osmond thing, those performance.

Kelli (09:44.536)
Yeah, that was pretty funny.

Kelli (09:56.93)
cares?

Well, because they're Mormons.

Lori (10:02.111)
Just some weird Osmond thing. and then Brahman offers to read the text from Jarin. Brittany's like, no, no, he told me about it already. But then Andy says he wants to hear it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Brahman asks if he wants to hear all of it or just the worst part. And Mary says all of it, all the dirt.

Kelli (10:03.885)
Yeah.

Kelli (10:15.125)
Andy's like, I want to hear it.

Lori (10:29.481)
Let's see. yeah, he calls her a little bitch and says, guarantee I am twice the size of any man you have ever been with. Mary's face was so hysterical when she said that. She was just like, ew. And then Brittany says, I didn't know that part. And she was embarrassed. But you know, if that's how he talks to women.

Kelli (10:38.648)
That was disgusting.

Kelli (10:43.052)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (10:54.488)
That, yeah, that's clearly how he talks to women.

Lori (10:57.277)
Yeah. then, so Mary, no. And then Mary says that, you know, he slid into her DMs, but basically it was all respectful. And did you hear Brittany when he's saying, but his love bombing is so good. It's irresistible when he does it.

Kelli (10:59.448)
So not very gentlemanly.

Kelli (11:18.53)
Like, love bombing is a bad thing, by the way, Brittany. Like, you fucking idiot.

Lori (11:22.387)
Yeah, by the way, it's a bad thing. An idiot, yeah. So then a viewer reads in and asks if Britney thinks Jared used her to get famous by being on the show.

Kelli (11:36.92)
Well, he said he got her on the show. He said in the beginning, that they brought that up? He said she got on the show because of him.

Lori (11:39.461)
yeah. Yeah. mm hmm. Yeah.

Yep. Yeah. So Brittany says, yeah, Brittany says, no, he did the show to support me. And then they show, like you said, they show Jared's post where he says, basically she got the job because he gives her relevance and that their romantic relationship was not supposed to be used. They were only supposed to be shown as best friends.

Kelli (11:49.396)
Nobody knew who you were!

Lori (12:14.771)
And how you like that Whitney saying her dad used to be Osman's glam squad? you didn't hear that? Yeah, her dad used to be their hairdresser.

Kelli (12:20.092)
I didn't hear that. Did she say that?

Kelli (12:25.56)
Her dad was on the first season. And obviously you know from watching this now, he has some substance abuse issues. And clearly they're still going on because she hasn't spoken to him, which I feel bad about. But I remember the first season when he was on, I'm like, I know him from somewhere. I've seen this guy before. And you know, I've watched reality TV since the real world started on MTV. So I've seen it all. And I love, you know, I work at a salon. So I'm gonna watch anything about a salon.

Lori (12:32.242)
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Kelli (12:51.948)
He was on something, a Salon Reality TV show. I'm gonna have to find it, because he was definitely on one. I don't know if it was the one with Tabitha, where Tabitha takes over. I don't know, but I'm gonna find it. Remember that?

Lori (13:06.165)
Oh yeah, yeah, I remember that show. Yeah, yeah, so she says that. was like, oh, what's that?

Kelli (13:12.472)
That's very interesting, I missed that. So he was Osmond's part of the glam squad.

Lori (13:14.516)
Yeah

their glam squad, he did their hair, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so Brittany said she's now speaking with both her daughters and that one was there with her in New York. And...

Kelli (13:20.289)
Interesting.

Lori (13:30.249)
Bronwyn admits that she has judged Brittany harshly and says that there were, Bronwyn says there were lot of things in different relationships that she gave up because of Gwen. And she kind of feels like, well, as a mother, that's what you're supposed to do. And like, that's what Brittany should have done. So Brittany says something weird. So Brittany says that Bronwyn was the

only one who knew why she was estranged and said Bronwyn had a personal connection.

Kelli (14:08.514)
Yeah, she's accusing her of reaching out to her daughters.

Lori (14:12.167)
Yeah, but I don't know what that means.

Kelli (14:14.646)
And Brahman said, I never did. And she said, you had your minions or your flying monkey. She said something like, you had your people do it. So I guess people reached out to Britney's daughters and was like, your mom was never on Broadway, know, saying things about Britney to them. I couldn't follow quite honestly.

Lori (14:20.679)
Yeah, something weird flying monkeys.

Lori (14:30.829)
I don't yeah I didn't I didn't get that I didn't I didn't yeah I couldn't follow the idea but I just want to know what this means because Brittany says

Bronwyn that Bronwyn was the only one who knew why exactly why she was estranged from her daughters.

Kelli (14:51.586)
Yeah, I think that's what she's accusing her of. She was accusing her of reaching out to her daughters, but Andy was very clear. He was like, Brittany, you were estranged from your daughters before you interviewed to be on the show. You didn't even know Bronwyn yet. But she was insistent, but Andy kept correcting her. So whatever she's trying to spin is clearly a bunch of bullshit.

Lori (15:05.278)
Right.

Right.

Lori (15:16.509)
Yeah, it's just very bizarre. And Brahman said, like, she's not responsible for what someone else said to her daughters. So it was weird. It was kind of like...

Kelli (15:19.246)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (15:29.949)
It was kind of like she was trying to say that.

Bronwyn was talking to some of her friends and that some of Bronwyn's friends came to Brittany's daughters and said things to her. But who does that? It doesn't even make any sense.

Kelli (15:46.274)
Mm-hmm. Right. Right. It doesn't make any sense. And again, Andy was like, but Brittany, you were already not speaking to your daughters before we interviewed you. You didn't even know Bronwyn yet. Bronwyn didn't even know anything about you yet. Like the timeline just doesn't match up.

Lori (16:01.991)
Right before, Right.

Yeah. So, no, it doesn't match up. So, when Brittany comes back and she says, well, know, Bronwyn's comments about me not doing Broadway, calling her Britt-tawny, like, what is, what, what are you even talking about? And even Andy looks confused. And then, and then Brittany says,

Kelli (16:30.764)
Right. He's very confused.

Lori (16:36.735)
Brittany goes, says like that, she goes, this is when Bronwyn's, she says your, but she's means Bronwyn's. This is when Bronwyn's friends were so alarmed that they had to talk to my babies. like, what are you, it's making no sense at all. So yeah, so basically Brittany is saying that Bronwyn's friends sat Brittany's kids down and said,

Kelli (16:54.668)
Yeah, she's nuts.

She's really nuts.

Lori (17:06.813)
Your mom is telling the women that you're jealous of her and then that's why you're not talking to her. That your mom is saying that you guys broke up her happy marriage to husband number two and it's your fault. What is she talking about?

Kelli (17:21.622)
Yeah, that was fun.

Kelli (17:26.786)
I don't know. That was really messed up that they said that she said that they said that. I just don't believe anything that comes out of her mouth. I don't find her trustworthy. I don't find her credible. I think she just wants to be on the show. She's going to do whatever she wants. So I think she came into that reunion to spin all of this, to create beef with Bronwyn so that she'll be asked back. that people, you know what I mean? To try to get a second season. No man liked her though.

Lori (17:28.917)
Is this cool? Yeah!

Lori (17:40.789)
Yeah.

Lori (17:50.577)
I guess, I guess. yeah. And Brittany says, no, Brittany says, you've got some things to pay for. And Mary's face was like that. I smell shit face. It was so great. It was great.

Kelli (18:00.876)
Right.

Kelli (18:04.364)
Yep. Yep. I mean, at some point, Mary says, I hope you don't come back or whatever, you know, I hope whatever she said, but that's basically what she meant.

Lori (18:10.419)
Yeah. Yeah. And then they go back and forth about Brittany leading a double life and then Brittany and Lisa chime in on their pseudo Mormonism. It's just a big mess. Andy brings up to Meredith that Angie never called Brittany a slut and that she was just repeating what was said. And then Mary was like, yeah, but you didn't even get both sides of the story. You know?

Kelli (18:24.088)
Yeah.

Lori (18:39.251)
And then Bronwyn says, like, can't be mad when you say love wine and then somebody buys you a bottle.

Kelli (18:45.95)
I mean if you drink alcohol in front of someone and then you invite them to your home and they bring you a bottle of wine There's absolutely nothing wrong with that And there's nothing wrong with that. I don't care if they knew you were Mormon if they didn't know you were Mormon I don't give an F if you drink alcohol in front of someone and they bring you a bottle of wine as a house gift Because they're coming to your house accept it and say thank you

Lori (18:47.571)
you know, with Angie bringing it to our house.

Lori (18:54.621)
No. No!

Lori (19:13.097)
Yeah. This is just, don't know. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Absolutely. Absolutely. And then Andy asked Brittany how she felt when the girls supported her after admitting that, you know, she's sleeping with Jared. And then Mary's like, well, why didn't you even bring it up?

Kelli (19:16.108)
Well, Heather said it, she's leading a double life. Brittany's leading a double life. She's, cause she's a fake and she's a phony.

Lori (19:40.239)
And Brittany says, cause she wanted to be in good faith and rectify something she actually did lie about as opposed to the recordings, which she says she did not lie about. But that's bullshit. Girl, you were doing those recordings and the only reason you brought that shut up with Jared and made your big old confession was cause you were trying to deflect. That's all you were trying to do.

Kelli (19:50.85)
Right. Total bullshit.

Lori (20:05.713)
And then Andy asked Lisa about her saying that Bronwyn was ungrateful for the trip. When Lisa was upset about flying coach. I thought that was a good one. Yeah. And how about, you know, Lisa, part of the conversation was missing. So what she's trying to say is that she wanted Bronwyn to have the matching master suite like she had, but just in the other villa. That was like.

Kelli (20:31.054)
Yes, because of her dog bite. She was full of shit. She was so full of shit. I do think Bronwyn overreacted about everything, but that was a bad excuse.

Lori (20:35.701)
that was so full of shit. I was like, girl, you should have just kept quiet. yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. No, the O is bad. I was like, you should have just left that one alone, girlfriend. Just left alone. Yeah. And then they were talking about the dog bite and saying about how you're supposed to put your finger in the dog's butthole.

Kelli (20:50.294)
Yeah, yeah, don't even, like, let it lie.

Kelli (20:58.412)
Mm.

Lori (21:04.317)
I was like, what? my God. You didn't hear that? Yeah. So they're talking about the, the, the, Bronwyn's dog bite. And then Bronwyn, cause Bronwyn was saying like, you know, I've been around a lot of dogs. I know what you're supposed to do. If a dog attacks you, you're not supposed to move. You're not supposed to jerk your arm. You're not supposed to yell all those things, but I

Kelli (21:05.303)
I didn't catch that.

No!

Lori (21:32.873)
didn't do those things. did the opposite. I jerked my arm. I yelled. And then someone asks, well, you know, what are you supposed to look, what do you do in that situation to get the dog off of you? And Mary says, you're supposed to choke him out. And then I forget who's, Mary, and then I forget who was that said, you're supposed to put your finger in their bottle.

Kelli (21:35.756)
Right, which is a natural reaction.

Kelli (22:00.971)
that!

Lori (22:01.525)
Yeah, was so funny. I was laughing. Yeah, was laughing so hard about that. I was like, what are you saying on TV? And then Heather asked if she sued for the dog bite. And then Bronwyn said, no. And then Bronwyn said, no, she actually paid for some kind of medical issue that the dog had and found a farm.

Kelli (22:04.76)
Bite, man. That's fucked up.

Kelli (22:11.598)
Now I gotta Google it and see if it's true

Kelli (22:21.122)
No, she didn't.

Lori (22:31.349)
that the door could be on so it wasn't around other dogs.

Kelli (22:34.71)
Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (22:36.659)
And then Andy brings up the tags on the clothes with Whitney.

And Whitney says, I heard it from somebody who works at Nordstrom's. Lisa with the, don't shop at Nordstrom's.

Duh.

Kelli (22:52.206)
Whatever.

Lori (22:54.057)
And then how about Angie telling Meredith that she be able to take her out. She's a fucking beauty school student. That was great.

Kelli (23:03.091)
that was the best. She's a lawyer. I, I'm a beauty school student. That was the best.

Lori (23:07.957)
That was great. And I actually like Meredith's chuckle at the end of that. It was fun.

Kelli (23:12.31)
Absolutely. Absolutely.

Lori (23:20.233)
So how about when Andy asked if Bramwood thinks Lisa likes to play the victim and does she have trouble having empathy for others? And I wrote down here, Lisa, if this is even a question that was brought up, obviously by Bravo.

Kelli (23:38.818)
Yeah. Take note.

Lori (23:42.111)
Take note, if somebody has to ask somebody else that question about you on national television.

Kelli (23:49.046)
Yeah. Well, I liked Brahman's response though. She said Lisa takes things about herself more seriously than what's said about other people. And she's right.

Lori (24:00.329)
Yes, most definitely.

Kelli (24:01.696)
That hit the nail on the head.

Lori (24:06.869)
What else you got, anything?

Kelli (24:08.918)
yeah, Meredith would not let Brittany talk, but I probably wouldn't either. That's my next note. Mary said, hopefully Brittany's not back. She asked Mary why she doesn't like her, and then she just kept cutting Mary off when Mary was trying to explain why she didn't like her. And then Meredith brings up that she talked to Jen Shah, and Whitney asks, how's that different than her talking to Monica?

Lori (24:14.581)
Yeah

Lori (24:28.242)
I'm you.

Kelli (24:36.822)
And I do kind of agree with them, like...

Jen went to jail, she's taking accountability for her actions, she's paying for her criminal behavior. Monica just kind of was just trying to destroy them. Not while she was on the show, but prior to being on the show.

Lori (24:57.567)
Here we go.

Kelli (25:03.064)
So I get that.

Lori (25:03.091)
Yeah. Yeah, but you know, there's, with that Monica thing though, there's still a lot of culpability in there, especially with Heather and Heather's hairdresser. I mean, that was messy. That was not just, that was not just Monica on her own. And I think if you put the two things side by side,

Kelli (25:10.51)
Sure.

Kelli (25:14.574)
poorly agree with you.

Lori (25:24.669)
I mean, Jen Shaw destroyed people's lives for possibly generations in some people. You know what I mean? You're from somebody who's elderly, you're taken from their kids and their grandkids. I mean, it's different than somebody having like a Finsta account and talking smack. To me, there's a big difference there. And I've seen a lot of things online where some people are like, well, you know what?

Kelli (25:32.686)
That's true.

Kelli (25:37.336)
Yeah.

Kelli (25:44.589)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Lori (25:52.883)
It's a double-edged sword because if you get upset about them possibly hiring Jen Shaw back, on the other side of it is if Jen Shaw comes back, she can make the money to pay the people back that she has to pay back. So it's kind of six on one, half a dozen of the other.

Kelli (26:13.58)
Yeah, I'm real curious to see if they bring Jen Shaw back. I mean, they brought Teresa back after she went to prison. I mean, not only did they bring her back, they didn't film while she was in jail. They did not film. Well, they filmed, but they only filmed her husband and her girls. It was like a three episode thing. They did not film Housewives without her. So we knew that wasn't going to happen with Jen. But but I'll be curious to see if she comes back, Jen.

Lori (26:16.877)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (26:21.544)
Yeah.

Lori (26:32.501)
Right.

Right.

Right.

Kelli (26:45.378)
So Whitney and Lisa try to hash things out, but it's very clear that Lisa doesn't wanna move on with her. And they both start yelling, like nobody can get a word in, Meredith's talking, Brahman's talking, Angie's talking, everybody's talking. But they do finally at the end kind of agree to move on. But Lisa's very clear, like if this happens again,

Lori (26:51.605)
That was weird.

Yeah, it was weird.

Lori (27:00.231)
don't know.

Lori (27:10.271)
Yeah.

Kelli (27:14.018)
So what is she saying? What was the whole thing with the text message? They want to burn it, right? They're going to burn it and let it go. So, but Lisa's very clear and says, if this happens again, it's reignited like gas poured on it, reignited.

Lori (27:20.745)
Right, right.

Lori (27:29.693)
Right. And I am not a Lisa fan, but I can see the point. I mean, if you keep doing the same, you can't say something, say you're sorry for it, and then talk about the same thing again, and then say you're sorry for it, and then talk about the same thing again, and say you're sorry for it. Like after a while, it's like, no, fuck you. So.

Kelli (27:37.122)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (27:52.204)
Yes, because two seasons ago, Whitney brought up a rumor that Lisa sleeps around to get Utah jazz tickets for her husband to go watch the jazz play or something like that. So there were cheating allegations two seasons ago and Whitney brought them up on camera and was pissed off at Heather for not co-signing it because apparently Heather was involved in a conversation who they had a conversation with somebody who said that this

Lori (28:03.829)
I'm so stupid.

Kelli (28:21.418)
actually happened. So this is at least the second time that I can remember off the top of my head that Whitney has alleged that they've had extracurricular activities in their marriage. So yeah, like enough now. Stop or we're not cool.

Lori (28:32.179)
Right. Right.

Lori (28:38.793)
Right. least.

Kelli (28:40.194)
So at this point, Brittany's left. And Mary asks them to say nice things about each other. Now, I have who said nice things about who, but I don't have what they said. Mary said something nice about Heather. Lisa said something nice about Whitney. Meredith says something nice about Angie. Angie says something nice about Meredith. Brahman said something nice about Heather. Heather said something nice about Brahman. Whitney says something nice about Lisa.

And then they show Brittany and she's like, I should be out there. I want something nice said about me.

Lori (29:11.835)
my God. You are a friend of girl. I don't know what you're thinking. No home. It's crazy. And do see she put out a post about how she snuck out of her dressing room? She snuck out of her dressing room before it was her time to come out onto the stage.

Kelli (29:16.024)
Go home, Brittany. Go home!

Kelli (29:24.14)
He should have been on a plane by now!

Kelli (29:32.129)
No.

Lori (29:39.475)
She did a social media post, she snuck out of her dressing room. She was backstage peeking around the bush and shit when Angie first came out in her dress. What are you doing? Saying, I should be out there now. yeah.

Kelli (29:52.436)
my god.

Kelli (29:56.312)
She's nuts this girl, she's nuts. Bravo, run. Run, Bravo.

Lori (29:57.593)
She's nuts. Yeah. I like how, I did like how Mary said in regards to Brittany, she said, she said, I got enough going on in my life right now. I don't need another wreck. That's great.

Kelli (30:12.686)
So funny, like, comeback season, best comeback season ever of any housewife, Mary Cosby. I mean, hands down, she gets it, best comeback season ever in the history of the franchise.

Lori (30:21.36)
Mary, yes. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. yeah. So what Mary said to Brittany was, get over it. It's done. And hopefully you are too. That's what she said. But the other two things I have is, Meredith, like, why is so, why is Meredith is so jacked up about puking?

Kelli (30:36.94)
That's what she said. That's amazing. So good.

Kelli (30:52.43)
Wow.

I don't wanna make any assumptions, but to me, when someone gets that jacked up about something, it means that they're guilty of something, right? Maybe Meredith has some kind of form of an eating disorder and she doesn't want anybody knowing, obviously, because that's her personal business. I'm just guessing, I obviously clearly don't know, but that was my personal opinion. I think maybe she does have something, or,

Lori (30:59.094)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (31:06.175)
something

Lori (31:13.982)
Right.

Lori (31:17.747)
Right.

Kelli (31:25.108)
She, listen, there's a lot of allegations out there about Seth being with other women, right? Maybe he is. I personally feel that Meredith and Seth have an open marriage and they're just not saying it. And I think that's unfortunate because I think they should be open about that. that's your marriage, be honest about it. It's nobody's business and nobody has the right, and who cares what anybody else's opinion, if this works for you, beautiful, maybe.

Lori (31:30.217)
Right. Right.

Lori (31:52.307)
Right. Right.

Kelli (31:55.116)
Maybe she was arguing on the phone with Seth over something and got so upset that she vomited. Yeah.

Lori (32:00.245)
Yeah, she's just, mean, like the punishment's not fitting the crime. Like the math is not math-ing with that one. I'm like, whoa, like why are you so jacked? And I don't know if you noticed it, but when they were having that discussion, the camera pans to Angie and Mary and they look at each other like, like they, I don't know if they know something, but they just looked at each other like, you know?

Kelli (32:08.12)
Agreed.

Kelli (32:25.731)
Yes.

Yes. I honestly think that Meredith is a big phony baloney on this show. I think that Meredith's life is vastly different than what she puts out on camera. And that's why when somebody accuses her of something, says something she doesn't like, she flies off the handle. Yeah. Because she's so scared of, like, the jig is up. Like, she's so scared of the jig being up.

Lori (32:30.256)
I thought that was very telling.

Lori (32:47.477)
Yeah, she loses her shit.

Lori (32:53.671)
Right. I don't know what it is, but I was just like, girl, you protested a little too much.

Kelli (32:59.832)
She must be paying a lot of people off to keep their mouths shut though, because I don't think anything she shows us on this show is her real life. And there's got to be somebody out there ready to spill the beans. Spill the beans for the love of God.

Lori (33:06.815)
I don't know.

Lori (33:13.031)
One would think. And the other thing I have, Lisa's drama and her comment with the trafficking.

was over the top. You didn't catch that? You didn't miss that? That's fucking awesome.

Kelli (33:24.558)
Did I miss this too? What the hell am I watching? I'm not gonna lie, I have written down at some point, I zoned out, I'm

Lori (33:34.325)
Oh, well, there you go. There you go.

Kelli (33:37.282)
Where was it? I have it written down. All right, go ahead. Tell me.

Lori (33:39.071)
Well, I knew Wendy was sick, so I knew I had to take some notes more than I normally do. so anyway, so Lisa was trying to say that the reason why she gets so jacked up about her marriage and everything is that because she was one of six kids. She said, I was one of six kids and I could have been trafficked and my parents wouldn't even have known.

Kelli (33:43.276)
Yeah, thank you. I appreciate it.

Lori (34:09.255)
And my family is very important to me because that's all I have and my marriage. Yeah. You missed that one. Yeah. I was like, girl.

Kelli (34:17.806)
I missed that one and that's very unfortunate that you think that you could have been trafficked and your parents would not have known.

Lori (34:25.267)
And you know what, don't put yourself out there in the same category with anybody who is trafficked because I just thought that was like a really dumb, insensitive thing to say. And I do not believe that your life was quite as horrible as you are making that statement, you know, making it out to be like, what are you doing? But she was just her drama and crying. If she cries one more time, I...

Kelli (34:30.498)
That's true.

an insensitive thing to say.

for sure.

Kelli (34:46.136)
Correct.

Right.

Lori (34:54.215)
If I was on that, I could never be on a show like that because I would just got up and smacked her. Just smacked her out of her crying jigs.

Kelli (34:58.562)
Well her too though, it's like

She and Meredith hold themselves.

higher than the rest of them. They just do. They hold themselves higher. They're up here, everybody else is down here. I mean, they both think they're queen. I think Lisa really thinks she's queen bae. I don't think Meredith really needs the title, but again, I don't think Meredith is showing us anything honest about her marriage, her life, anything.

Lori (35:20.784)
most definitely.

Lori (35:30.517)
Oh, and I think she definitely thinks she's better than the rest of them. She just, she just does. She just thinks she's better. So Meredith's face, when Andy was saying all those nice things about Mary. I don't know if you caught that. You might want to watch it. It's just at the very end. It's quite interesting. And then she has to like, you should say it. And then she has to interrupt. She interrupted when.

Kelli (35:33.697)
For sure, for sure. Mm-hmm, yeah.

Kelli (35:46.754)
Mm-mm.

Kelli (35:51.436)
Yeah, that is interesting.

Lori (36:00.725)
when Andy was at the tail end of his nice things to say about Mary, she interrupted with, I don't remember what it was she interrupted with, but she did interrupt. And I was like, girl, I know he's talking to you, let him finish saying what he's saying, saying something so nice. So I don't know.

Kelli (36:15.266)
Yeah, what are you doing?

Kelli (36:21.976)
She probably didn't know where it was gonna go, but thankfully she and Mary ended everything on a good note.

Lori (36:27.869)
Yeah, think probably, I think with that situation, think probably Mary thought that her friendship was more than what Meredith thought it was. And I think that it just, something happened where Mary was like, okay, well, I guess I'm not. You know what I mean?

Kelli (36:51.106)
Yeah, and Mary does seem like the type of person that does not let people in. She's very guarded. like, Angie, like she let her in, so please Angie, don't fuck that up because Mary clearly needs a good friend right now.

Lori (36:55.849)
Mm-mm. Mm-hmm.

Lori (37:05.653)
Yeah. Yeah. But I think that's the deal with her and Meredith. think that Mary kind of opened up with Meredith, thought it was going to be something. And then maybe like, Meredith blew her off or did something to kind of jack up her insecurity thing that Mary's got, her abandonment thing. And Mary was like, oh, okay. It's not, it's not where I thought it was. It's something.

Kelli (37:27.052)
Right. Yes.

Hell no.

Lori (37:35.645)
a lot more shallow than what I thought. So, all right, so we're done.

Kelli (37:41.602)
That's it. So no more Salt Lake City.

Lori (37:42.643)
That's it. Salt Lake City. I did enjoy it though. Imagine that.

Kelli (37:47.352)
But I did too, I thought it was a good season. mean, Mary, you know, the whole thing with Mary was... So...

Lori (37:59.155)
very moving and relatable.

Kelli (38:01.022)
Moving is a perfect perfect word perfect word and If you haven't dealt with addiction in your family, you know, God bless you. That's a beautiful beautiful thing but You're very fortunate, but this just gives you a little bit of insight into what a parent and you know The rest of everyone in the family is always affected, but the parents bear the brunt of it

Lori (38:03.963)
moving and relatable.

Lori (38:10.025)
that you don't know.

Lori (38:14.335)
Yeah, you're very fortunate.

Lori (38:20.819)
A little glimpse.

Kelli (38:30.966)
And of course, harbor guilt. Like they should have done more, even though honestly, there's nothing more they could have done.

Lori (38:31.029)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (38:37.553)
No. No, no, no.

Kelli (38:39.682)
But it was a good season, I agree. Heather did not annoy me as much as she normally does. She normally annoys the F out of me. Yes, I did. Mm-hmm. Yes.

Lori (38:41.685)
What's good?

Lori (38:45.513)
Did you notice how quiet she was? Notice how quiet she was when they were talking about Jansha?

Yeah, Missy didn't have a thing to say.

Kelli (38:55.489)
Yeah, yeah.

Lori (38:57.077)
So I know Bravo setting her up.

Kelli (38:58.858)
It's gonna be very interesting because I think, I mean, they're definitely gonna have another season before Jen's out of jail. Even though her sentence keeps getting shortened. They're definitely gonna film another season before she gets out of jail.

Lori (39:11.775)
But Bravo's definitely setting Heather up for her, for her own show. Because she got, fuck yeah, she got to do that whole thing at the dinner, about the phones, she did the whole toast at the end of the reunion. Come on, come on. yeah, she's getting around for the beauty lab.

Kelli (39:18.872)
You think?

Kelli (39:26.061)
Yeah.

Kelli (39:32.31)
You think she's gonna get like a spin-off for her beauty lab?

Interesting. We shall see.

Lori (39:38.485)
So we shall see. We shall see. All right, so till next time, have a good evening.

Kelli (39:44.494)
All right.

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Lori (39:52.211)
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Lori (39:56.935)
All right. Good night.