Tears, Truths & Takedowns: RHONY S15 Reunion Pt. 1

 Tears, Truths & Takedowns: RHONY S15 Reunion Pt. 1 

Summary of RHONY S15 Reunion Part 1 Podcast

• Pre-Reunion Dressing Room Conversations
  • Brynn checks in with Jessel, who questions if everything is really "fine."
  • Erin visits Ubah, who says she has no intention of resolving things.
  • Brynn watches the final episode while getting ready.
• Opening Moments with Andy
  • Andy greets the ladies and comments on their outfits.
  • Jenna confirms a private, unofficial ceremony with her partner Cass.
  • The ladies call Jenna out for being secretive about her relationship while being open in the press.
• Confrontations & Apologies
  • Sai has not apologized to Pavit for comparing him to Dory.
  • Sai is upset Pavit hasn’t apologized for calling her a "bipolar bitch."
  • Discussion over past comments and accusations, including Sai insinuating Pavit was unfaithful.
• Tense Exchanges & Emotional Moments
  • The group recalls moments when Sai claimed she “couldn’t stand Jenna.”
  • Brynn reveals she intentionally made herself less likable to boost Jenna’s popularity.
  • Heated debate over whether Jenna called Jessel a "basic bitch."
  • Brynn's emotional breakdown over Jeff Lewis.
• Serious Discussions
  • Erin opens up about her abortion and the overwhelming response she received.
  • Brynn shares her past experience with SA and why she hasn’t pursued legal action.
  • Ubah gets emotional over knowing the perpetrator and the realities of such situations.
• Life Updates
  • Ubah has moved in with Oliver in Connecticut.
  • Brynn and Gideon’s relationship remains stagnant.
  • Jessel reveals her cosmetic enhancements, sparking discussion.
• Major Conflict: Brynn vs. Jessel
  • Jessel is furious over Brynn distorting her words about her past relationships.
  • Jessel demands accountability, saying Brynn’s comments caused issues in her marriage.
  • Jenna breaks down, urging Brynn to stop defending herself and just apologize.

Takeaways

• The reunion outfits set the tone for the evening.
• Fashion choices reflect personal styles and statements.
• Tensions between cast members are palpable during reunions.
• Secrets and rumors often surface during these gatherings.
• Personal stories add depth to the drama.
• The importance of owning one's actions is emphasized.
• Emotional moments resonate with viewers and cast alike.
• The dynamic between humor and seriousness is crucial.
• Fashion can be a form of self-expression and empowerment.
• Reunions serve as a platform for resolution and confrontation. She had no idea how sick he really was.
• His intentions were very good.
• You really help a lot of people.
• Mental health is such a big issue in this country.
• You gotta just stick it out, absolutely.
• I believe that wholeheartedly.
• It's so important for therapy.
• She is that kind of person.
• It's gonna be a good reunion.
• This year's my year.

Transcript

We Wine Whenever (00:00.834)
Hi, welcome to We Why Whenever. I'm Wendy. We are talking about Real Housewives of New York. This is the reunion, the first show of the reunion. I'm very excited about this. I thought first we would go over their outfits, because I did pull together their outfits. Let's see what we have. So first we have Brynn. So Brynn.

Kelli (00:03.348)
I'm Kelly.

Kelli (00:14.123)
Me too.

Kelli (00:19.393)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (00:29.612)
was wearing a taller Marmo dress. It is.

Kelli (00:36.211)
Is it behind you? Okay, so you might just want to scooch.

Kelli (00:44.243)
a little bit more. I don't want you to be out of the picture, but... I mean, we see half of her. It's fine. We know what we're doing.

We Wine Whenever (00:50.573)
Okay, I mean, it's, yeah, yeah, well, yeah. So hers is a taller, it is a taller Marmot dress. The shoes are Amina Mudai and Tiffany and Co. jewelry. She was styled by Amber Rose Smith, but today she says she's going for Ja Ja Gabor. They share the same birthday.

Kelli (01:05.694)
Kelli (01:18.369)
think somebody fact-checked that on social media and it was not true that they share the same birthday.

We Wine Whenever (01:21.601)
Well, wait, she's actually her exact quote was, we share the same birthday almost. So I'm going to be very Zsa Zsa.

Kelli (01:28.017)
Okay, okay, okay.

Kelli (01:33.597)
Okay, I thought it was giving Mrs. Roper vibes, but whatever.

We Wine Whenever (01:37.737)
Yes, she also said lots of feathers and no pigeons.

Then we have Sai, Sai De Silva. Hers is a Christopher John Rogers dress. Her shoes are Roger Vivier, and her jewelry is Dana Kemp and Michael M. So her ins...

Kelli (02:02.181)
I really, I'm sorry, I really liked Sai's dress. feel like Sai is so petite, sometimes she gets lost in her dresses like this. But it's a beautiful dress and she's beautiful, so.

We Wine Whenever (02:13.846)
Yeah.

It's a beautiful standing dress. You know, that's the problem with some of these dresses and her inspiration was,

Kelli (02:19.071)
Yes, yes.

We Wine Whenever (02:28.022)
Let's see. The vibe of this look is a mixed modern elegance and dramatic sophistication. The sleeveless tailored top with lapels gives a look of a modern twist blending masculine tailoring with feminine drama, which I agree with. You know, I agree with all of that. like, yeah, yeah. But again, it's a gown and it's, you know, it really should be a standing, it's not a good sitting dress.

Kelli (02:45.151)
Yeah, what did Andy say? Business on top, party on the bottom?

Kelli (02:56.575)
Yeah, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (02:58.749)
And then we have Jessels.

Kelli (03:01.643)
I feel like hers was the top, top, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (03:03.434)
Hers was gorgeous. Hers was gorgeous. I cannot pronounce it. was Macheski dress, Yves Saint Laurent shoes, Artem jewelry. She was going for haute couture, something super chic. We're thinking European. She cut her hair short. So we were thinking this little French bob situation. And she confessed backstage that I have a gorgeous dress that's by a Russian designer.

So I guess that's what the designer is. And it is gorgeous. I thought it was gorgeous. I never heard of that designer, but it doesn't matter.

Kelli (03:36.093)
Absolutely. Did you? No, me neither. Yeah, me neither. Did you happen to see Austin with Patricia Achele on Watch What Happens Live? Okay, not, I mean, nothing major, but Andy asked Austin who in the Bravo sphere he has like connected with the most. And he said, Jessel.

We Wine Whenever (03:47.018)
I did not.

Kelli (04:01.577)
I don't, they were somewhere and he said, I sat and talked to Jessel and he's like, she was hysterical. He's like, I really, really liked her. Yeah, I thought so too.

We Wine Whenever (04:08.652)
That's awesome!

Yeah, that's awesome. Did you watch the whole episode? All right, so we'll have to talk. You'll have to give me like the deets, because I heard there was a whole thing with Paige, but we'll wait and do it at the end. Okay, because I didn't get a chance to watch it. Was she?

Kelli (04:16.382)
I did.

Kelli (04:22.235)
yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Patricia was hysterical on it, by the way. Yes, yes.

We Wine Whenever (04:29.489)
Okay, next we have Jenna. Jenna is wearing a Balenciaga robe, Louboutin shoes, and her earrings are De Beers, which then we know that they're diamonds. I just wanted to do something unexpected and playful. I can't compete in the sexy dress category. I don't agree with her on that. I think she can.

Kelli (04:52.671)
I don't either because she showed up to the one event this season and where she was channeling Brynn, but she looked amazing.

We Wine Whenever (05:01.771)
Yeah, I think she absolutely can compete in the sexy dress category. She did say though, you know, it's kind of hard to top the jeans like she did denim last time. Well, I guess this does. I mean, and then it did list her hairstylist, but I wouldn't write it down since she was wearing a turban. There was no one styling that hair. So, but you know what I did read online and I thought, well, that's interesting.

Kelli (05:05.653)
Yes.

Kelli (05:23.125)
Yeah. No. But I love the turban.

We Wine Whenever (05:31.147)
She didn't have lashes on. Now, the person that put this said maybe she planned on wearing the glasses the entire time, but Andy put a kibosh on that. But she does have a lash line. So you think she would have put on her lashes.

Kelli (05:41.887)
I would imagine. Yeah.

Kelli (05:49.887)
Yeah. Yeah. I did think she looked great though. I loved the look.

We Wine Whenever (05:51.848)
You know, I just think.

We Wine Whenever (05:57.609)
Yeah, I didn't, I just didn't. Okay, and then we had Erin. Erin is wearing a Bottega Veneta dress, retrofit shoes, and her jewelry was Kilcullen, and Lizzie Rosenberg styled her. I feel like I know that stylist's name.

Kelli (06:18.517)
Maybe we talked about it during Fashion Week.

We Wine Whenever (06:21.18)
Yeah, maybe, that could be. And she was worried the dress wasn't gonna fit. think that they, you know, she's actually not that far along in the pregnancy. I thought she was further along, but you know what, it's her fourth, so you pop quick and yeah, it just. Now, Ubers, Ubers, we don't even know who the designer was. So she wore a shimmery black dress with chunky gold jewelry.

Kelli (06:33.899)
Yeah. Yes.

Kelli (06:39.305)
Absolutely.

We Wine Whenever (06:48.968)
She was styled by Arnold Milford. I actually got my dress last night, the night before the reunion at 9 p.m. My stylist came in and he had all these clothes and I tried on one outfit and I said, I'm done. That's it. I'm actually shocked that the outfit I said, I'm done with. I don't wanna look like anybody, anything else. And it's fabulous, one and done.

Kelli (06:55.862)
Whoa.

Kelli (07:11.809)
I absolutely love it. That's like my gig, like short dress, show the legs. I love it. I thought she looked great.

We Wine Whenever (07:16.477)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (07:19.848)
Yeah, she gorgeous. I just can't believe she waited until nine o'clock the night before the reunion. But you know what? When you're you're uva effing a son, it doesn't matter. You could pull anything off. You could pull anything off. Yep. this one I love Raquel. Raquel Charremont. She wore a Carolyn Herrera dress, Yves Saint Laurent shoes and Alex Bittar jewelry.

Kelli (07:21.866)
Yeah.

Kelli (07:26.773)
That's risky.

Exactly.

Kelli (07:33.951)
Yep, she could wear a sack. Yep.

We Wine Whenever (07:50.186)
It reminded her of Warhol pop art flower paintings. it is gorgeous. I loved hers. I thought it was different. I thought it was sexy. I thought it was perfect. And it worked well with the other girls. Like, you know, just not to have all black or all gold or, you know.

Kelli (07:54.753)
For sure, for sure.

Kelli (08:07.209)
Yeah. And I think, listen, you can't expect anything less than an art piece from her. So she like really nailed it.

We Wine Whenever (08:13.52)
Right, absolutely. Yeah, I loved it. And that was it for the decor. So we will start with the reunion.

Kelli (08:22.571)
Yeah.

Kelli (08:26.143)
Yeah, because they didn't, Rebecca hasn't been out yet.

We Wine Whenever (08:29.135)
Right. And by the way, I had a hard time finding Rebecca's dress. Like, yeah, yeah, because yeah, I a hard time finding. And I guess her dress is hers. I think it's Rebecca Minkoff because I couldn't, I couldn't find the designer, but I'm assuming it's hers because she has her own line. But she wasn't in like any of the pictures with all the women, which I thought was, yeah, I don't know. I mean, we know she's there. We know she's there. Okay. So in the beginning,

Kelli (08:33.92)
Really?

Kelli (08:40.916)
Okay.

Kelli (08:45.345)
Right.

Kelli (08:52.476)
that's interesting. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (08:57.93)
Brynn walks into Jessel's dressing room and asks how she's doing. Jessel says, fine, how about you? Brynn says, I think everything's fine, right? And Jessel says, you think everything's fine? And Brynn says, you're being cryptic. She says, I'm not being cryptic.

Kelli (09:17.089)
I'm just surprised that you would think everything was fine.

We Wine Whenever (09:20.624)
Right, she's like, you saw the show and Brynn's like, I'm watching the 15th episode now. Okay, well, maybe watch that and then come back to me. And you'll let me know.

Kelli (09:30.155)
Did you see the blind item out that Brynn has like this huge secret?

We Wine Whenever (09:35.59)
I saw somebody has a huge secret, I didn't know it was Brynn.

Kelli (09:37.971)
yeah, I'm sorry, you're right. It did say, but everybody's saying it's Brynn. Again, I think Bravo puts these blind items out.

We Wine Whenever (09:46.492)
Yeah, I think that they do. I think that they do.

Kelli (09:50.377)
I'm very curious as to what the big secret is.

We Wine Whenever (09:53.125)
I am too. So then we see Erin is in Uba's dressing room and says, I'm sure we're going in with like a hopeful resolve. And Uba says, no, no, I'm not resolving anything. Then we see Brynn is in her dressing room getting her hair done while watching the episode. I mean, that's just bold. That's just bold.

Andy sees Jenna come in with the robot and he's like, are you like, is this, she's like, no, this is it. He's like, you are changing the game. It's true. She is definitely changing the game. And that's what she's there for, to be quite honest with you. That's why she's there. So all the ladies come in, they sit down. He starts out congratulating Jessel on her 10th anniversary and

Kelli (10:37.195)
Of course, of course.

We Wine Whenever (10:46.729)
This was another thing that just blew up. Asked if there was a gift involved and she said yes. And he said, well, you know, what was it? She said, it was an iPhone 16. I was like, what?

Kelli (11:00.309)
I actually got one of those for my birthday from Eric, so I was like, awesome.

We Wine Whenever (11:06.061)
Yeah, I mean, an anniversary gift? And you and Jessel, I guess, I don't know, like...

Kelli (11:08.075)
was fine with it.

Kelli (11:13.245)
I guess it should have been a little more romantic, but you know what, if you're a practical person, you're a practical person. She needed a new phone, it was an anniversary, you get her a phone, you're done.

I don't know.

We Wine Whenever (11:25.415)
A phone is a tool. Like it is a tool. It's a tool.

If I need a new phone, I buy a new phone. I don't wait for a gift.

Kelli (11:36.235)
See, I don't though. Like I, I'm very happy with what's working. I don't, like I don't, I'm not like the latest and greatest. I don't need like all that. I don't know if Jessel's like that. I'm just saying that's how I am. So if Eric didn't get me a phone for something, I would probably never get a new phone. I went from an 11 to a 16.

We Wine Whenever (11:57.585)
Wait, wait, wait, wait. You wouldn't go out and buy your own phone is what you're saying.

Kelli (12:01.727)
No, no, I had an 11.

We Wine Whenever (12:04.879)
Okay, yeah. All right. Yeah, no, if I want a new phone.

Kelli (12:07.585)
But I don't know if Jessel's like that. I'm just saying that that's

We Wine Whenever (12:11.396)
Yeah, that could be. mean, I guess it could be. She was happy with it. So that's all that matters, to be quite honest with that that is all that matters. He says hi to Jenna and asks, like, what's the plan with the sunglasses? And she says they'll come off. But she didn't really. He kind of had a proctor. And that's when she said, you know, it's it's hard, you know, like, where do you go from jeans? You know, and then he's like, no, it's great.

Kelli (12:31.55)
for sure.

We Wine Whenever (12:39.972)
He says hi to Brynn and she lets him know that she's channeling Zsa Zsa and

Then Raquel says she's excited to be there. Andy says he's excited that she's there. Then he says to Sai, business on top, party on the bottom.

Aaron is due April 4th, which, you know, now it's, what is it? Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (13:07.433)
Now we're closer, but when they filmed it, you're right, she wasn't that far along.

We Wine Whenever (13:12.168)
Andy asked Uba if she was Uba hot and she said no she is Uba Zen and he's like since when she goes since June He said like when did we wrap June? so Then Andy this is the question he always asked at the beginning if anyone wants to set any intentions for the night

Kelli (13:34.977)
When did he start doing this?

We Wine Whenever (13:37.679)
When did he start doing this? Yeah, he has been. Probably.

Kelli (13:38.069)
He's been, yeah, he's been doing this lately on the reunions. I think he started with Jersey, which, wrong cast.

We Wine Whenever (13:46.683)
Well, that would have been years ago at this point, right? The season ended very dramatically. Brynn just watched it this morning. Brynn said she hopes for a lot of clarity and resolution. Erin, hopefully we get to a place of understanding. Ubi said she's okay and she's happy to be there. And that's it. She has nothing else.

Kelli (13:49.269)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (14:15.661)
Uba and Brynn have not spoken since the last day of filming at this point, which was in June. And I have to imagine they did this in December. So that's a long time. yeah, Andy says to Jenna, there's a lot of opinions out there about your partner Cass choosing not to be on the show. Jenna said, uh-huh. Andy said, I ran into you and her at a party and she ran away from me.

Kelli (14:29.153)
Yeah, that is a long time.

We Wine Whenever (14:46.694)
Andy asks if they are married, I guess because that's something that, you know, she could do without telling anyone. And she said that they had a playful emotional ceremony with some friends and family in Texas. But it's not legal and they're not in a hurry because they're together and they're happy.

Kelli (14:54.613)
Yeah.

Kelli (15:06.785)
And she also insinuated that Cass is very outspoken and she was not nervous but a little cautious about having her on the show.

We Wine Whenever (15:15.47)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (15:21.636)
Well, it's not even that she's outsmoken. think it's more specifically that she's politically incorrect. She's afraid that she'll get canceled. listen, if that's what it is, that's what it is, you know?

Kelli (15:27.285)
Okay.

Right.

Kelli (15:36.935)
It is, but Jenna does play, not play, Jenna is very even keel. She walks the line very carefully and she does it well. It works for her. So yeah, don't rock that boat, Jenna. Because you're still a fan fave and we saw what happened to Brynn from season one to season two. So don't rock that boat.

We Wine Whenever (15:51.205)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (15:56.195)
Yes, yes.

A viewer asked the ladies, how do you feel about Jenna being so coy about her relationship with you? And then she talked so candidly with the press about it. Sai said, it's annoying. Andy agrees, it's annoying. You're on a reality show. What's up with that? I mean, she kind of said her response to it was like, yeah, I mean, it's not like it's intentional. It's, you know, the things that I'm,

with the media is things that Cass and I have discussed prior so she knows I'm gonna be saying them. And I guess in the midst of filming, there's not conversations that she says, I'm gonna put this out there because she's just naturally being herself. That's not what she said, but I think that is what she meant. Right? You know, it's not something that's Sai, have you another, have you,

Kelli (16:47.209)
Yeah, I agree with you. I totally agree with you. Yes, yes.

Right.

We Wine Whenever (16:58.7)
Another question was, have you apologized to Poppet for calling him a dory lookalike? And so I said, no. And then they cut to a clip where Brynn is reading the text message in her confessional. That's how we know that, you know, she did that. Jessel said,

Kelli (17:13.515)
So it was probably a private text from Sai to Brynn, and Brynn brought it to light.

We Wine Whenever (17:16.407)
Yes. Yes. Yes. I didn't know that. I mean, I didn't remember that, you know? I didn't remember that. Jessel said he ran with it. And Sai said, you know, he's, because he did, he did that. He did a couple things with it. Sai said he's making the best of his double ganger. You mentioned in Puerto Rico that you wanted an apology.

Kelli (17:22.163)
No. Right, me neither. Right.

Kelli (17:34.987)
Yeah, good for him.

We Wine Whenever (17:44.878)
from Pavit for calling you a bipolar bitch. Have you gotten that? And Sai responds, no. Jessel said he's working on it. And then Sai said, if my husband called a woman a bitch, he would apologize. Sai thought it was very hurtful. The fact that he did call her bipolar was very offensive. And then Jessel said, well, you said a couple of things that he wasn't fond of. And Sai said, well, what?

Well, you insinuated that he was going to Vietnam to cheat. You know, she absolutely did insinuate that.

Kelli (18:17.535)
And she did. I don't agree with the bipolar comment. I think that in this, you know, in today's world, you shouldn't do that because mental health is such a delicate subject and there is such a stigma to it that you don't want to throw those words out there. But she did insinuate that he was going to Vietnam to cheat on his wife. And that's fucked up.

We Wine Whenever (18:38.71)
Yes. Yeah, no, that absolutely is 100%. But the bitch thing too, you know, when the fact that Jessel is like, well, he's working on it. It's either you're sorry or you're not, you know, like it's not you're working on it.

Kelli (18:55.839)
Yeah, I think that he's working on, you know, whether like thinking about whether or not he thinks he owes her an apology to me. Like, listen, people get so offended by the word bitch. mean, whatever. Like, it's not that big of a deal. No, no, no. Somebody, anybody can call me a bitch. Go ahead.

We Wine Whenever (19:09.155)
It doesn't offend you? A bitch doesn't offend you?

We Wine Whenever (19:14.871)
Really? think, I don't know, I think I would be offended being called a bitch. that's just me. I didn't see it, what'd she say? okay.

Kelli (19:18.557)
like Patricia said on Watch What Happens Live, I can be a bitch. And I can be a bitch. So I don't, if somebody wants to call me a bitch, me a bitch. I don't like the C word.

We Wine Whenever (19:26.859)
Okay.

gosh, no, I don't like that word either.

Kelli (19:34.705)
No, no, but I don't know. Like, I think the bipolar thing, think Pava owes her an apology, but I also think Sai owes him an apology for insinuating that he was going to go to Vietnam to cheat on his wife. Like, it is what it is.

We Wine Whenever (19:48.099)
Yeah, I agree. Raquel's mom has not been to New York, we find that out, and they never got the iPad working, which that's insane to me. And the kids have never been able to FaceTime with her. I mean...

Kelli (20:00.789)
Yeah, that's weird.

Kelli (20:08.948)
Yeah, it's strange, like who can't get an iPad to work? Plug it in and charge it. FaceTime is on an iPad, right? Just like it's on your iPhone? Plug it in and have them call you and it should ring and you should be able to answer it.

We Wine Whenever (20:12.204)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (20:17.845)
Yes. Yes.

We Wine Whenever (20:23.777)
Yes, that's how it works.

Kelli (20:25.705)
Yes. Yes.

We Wine Whenever (20:28.675)
Andy said to the women he felt like they were being extra lesbionic in front of Raquel's mom.

Kelli (20:35.595)
Thank you, Andy, because I said the same thing. I thought the same thing. I thought they were overdoing it in front of Raquel's mother. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (20:39.939)
I know I remember you saying that. First I'd like to know is lesbionic really a word? I don't think so. Jenna apologizes. And I, you know, I like I said that I don't think it was intentional. I just think that, you know, it just it is. Yeah.

Kelli (21:00.789)
It's just the way it played out. Because she kissed Brent on the mouth and she always does and then everybody was like, you know.

We Wine Whenever (21:06.71)
Yeah, yeah. And you know, Raquel said her mom doesn't watch this show, which that's another thing that's very surprising.

Kelli (21:16.883)
Yeah, well I guess if she has a problem, and I don't agree with this, I think it's awful, but if she has a problem with her being with a woman, why she going to watch her on TV with a woman?

We Wine Whenever (21:26.21)
because it's her daughter. Who not only is it her daughter, it's her daughter. It's her only daughter. It's her only child.

Kelli (21:27.988)
I agree with you.

Kelli (21:37.141)
Well yeah, especially like this, you know, of how she grew up without a father. Like, come on. Who gives a shit who she's with? As long as she's in love and they make her happy.

We Wine Whenever (21:41.812)
Right, right, right.

We Wine Whenever (21:49.249)
Right. I don't know who said this, but someone said, who heard Psy say I can't, I couldn't stand Jenna.

Kelli (21:57.631)
You know, I totally forgot about all this, but this is how the season opened.

We Wine Whenever (21:59.872)
Yeah.

Yeah. And Erin said, I heard something Brynn said, Brynn said, you said it to me. And then, then the next thing that came up, and this is what blew me away. Brynn said, coming into the season, my plan was, was to get people to like Jenna more by liking me less. Did you see the look on everyone's face when she said that?

Kelli (22:23.071)
Yeah, because she's so full of shit. Like, what are you talking about?

We Wine Whenever (22:26.316)
Their jaws dropped. Yeah. Yeah. And Brynn said in the first five weeks, it was you and Erin putting me through hell, meaning Sai and Erin.

Kelli (22:37.485)
Yeah, first of all, Erin was very supportive of Brynn. The whole season, like that was the only person she kind of had at one point.

We Wine Whenever (22:47.605)
Yeah.

Yeah, that's what she kept saying. Brink keeps saying, the first five weeks, she both screamed at me and the energy, sighs like, screamed at you once. And she did, she only screamed at her once. Was only the, yes, at her birthday. And that was, right, right.

Kelli (23:00.457)
Yeah, at her birthday.

Not today, Staten.

We Wine Whenever (23:09.045)
and then the whole Uber gate and then Jenna called Jessel a basic bitch, like all the things that Brynn was stirring up. Brynn said, I don't create these stories. Brynn says, when you tell us something, you embellish it. No, who? Yeah.

Kelli (23:22.495)
Yes, you do.

Kelli (23:27.049)
And Sai said, there's not one scene of me lying on camera, but you, they flashed back, they caught you lying on camera the whole season.

We Wine Whenever (23:41.995)
Brynn is bringing up the Jeff Lewis thing, that that, you know, that's why that triggers her and she's crying and Sai's trying to talk and Andy asked Sai, like, how's therapy going? But I don't know why he asked her that then when they were still kind of like finishing it up with Brynn. And Sai's like, I'm not doing it now. He's like, well, how long did you do it? And she said four months. Listen, I love Sai. I do.

Kelli (24:01.366)
Yeah.

Kelli (24:10.303)
I

We Wine Whenever (24:11.017)
I did see a different side, but please go back to therapy. I'm not saying that you need it, but I'm just saying it's very helpful.

Kelli (24:17.396)
Yeah, four months is, you you're just kind of scratching the surface.

We Wine Whenever (24:20.481)
Yeah, yeah, she's got a lot of shit. She's got a lot of shit going on there.

Kelli (24:26.197)
Yeah. Did you? okay. We'll get there.

We Wine Whenever (24:27.456)
Well then after a commercial break Andy whispers over to Jenna you need to save the road for BravoCon and Jenna said well I was thinking about returning it.

Kelli (24:37.289)
That's exactly what I was just gonna bring up, so that must have happened just next. She was gonna return the robe? Jenna? Come on.

We Wine Whenever (24:39.296)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. After she wore it on national TV, she's like, it was very expensive. He's like, well, how much was it? She's like $1,500, which I mean, $1,500 for a robe is expensive, but if you bought a gown, it would have been way more than $1,500.

Kelli (24:58.559)
Right, and what are you doing?

We Wine Whenever (25:01.192)
And then Brynn said hers was 7,000 and she bought it. I did look it up. Hers was actually 6,000, but maybe she's counting like the jewelry and the shoes and everything with it. Yeah, 6,000 though. That's a lot of money. For a moomo. Right?

Kelli (25:10.569)
Operations.

Kelli (25:14.731)
That was a lot of money.

Kelli (25:19.137)
Straight up, Mumu. Straight up, Mumu.

We Wine Whenever (25:23.713)
Yeah

Kelli (25:25.137)
We Wine Whenever (25:28.128)
Then Andy brings up that Aaron brought mezcal to America, the poor man's tequila. It was funny. Aaron's like, just, I don't know. Like, I don't know why I said that. I mean, it was a long time ago that everybody, she's like, I don't know.

Kelli (25:36.447)
That was so funny. That was great.

Kelli (25:47.571)
That was great. you know what? Here's the difference. I liked what I saw here. She could very easily have like skirted around that, came up with something snarky. She totally acknowledged it was like, yeah, I have no, I got nothing. I don't know why I did that. But at least she acknowledged that she did it. And Brynn will not acknowledge anything. She just keeps coming up with excuse and excuse and excuse and it just makes her look worse.

We Wine Whenever (26:04.222)
Right, right.

We Wine Whenever (26:14.846)
Yes, yes it does. It does.

Kelli (26:17.237)
I mean, it was something silly with Erin, but she owned it. And she was like, nah, what the fuck, I was talking.

We Wine Whenever (26:19.936)
Still, right. Yeah, and it's important to own your shit. Because you don't grow. If you don't own your shit, you don't grow.

Kelli (26:24.562)
Absolutely.

Kelli (26:29.035)
That's right. That's right.

We Wine Whenever (26:32.285)
So then Andy says, know, Erin talking about her story about the abortion and about telling her dad and they're showing, yes, was hard. Yes, it was hard to watch her watch it. She's crying. Her dad did know that she was expecting.

Kelli (26:41.553)
all those scenes with her and her dad that was hard to watch. It was hard to watch her watch it.

We Wine Whenever (26:57.715)
You know, she lets us know that it just happened so fast. She had no idea how sick he really was.

Kelli (27:04.385)
He probably didn't either, right?

We Wine Whenever (27:06.312)
He probably, I don't know, he might have and he just didn't want to tell her, you know? And then Aaron's, they talk about the failed handbag line again. Andy asked Aaron how much she would have made if she still had her Bitcoin.

Kelli (27:11.488)
Yeah.

Kelli (27:30.689)
a hundred grand.

We Wine Whenever (27:32.059)
Yeah. And she said, Brynn made fun of it, like made fun of the whole handbag line that she had that failed. Like, listen, so what you tried to do something as, you know, they did it together. wasn't something that he did, you know, they did it together. And, you know, when it's so when we initially heard that, you know, he did this with the money, like I didn't, I didn't know it was all to do with this handbag line. And I didn't

Kelli (27:45.695)
Yeah. Right.

Kelli (27:59.861)
Yeah, it was to pay off their debt.

We Wine Whenever (28:01.489)
Right, but I didn't know it was death that they incurred together and he was hiding it from her because he didn't want her to worry about it. It's not like she didn't know about it, but she didn't know about it. You know what I mean? She knew that the handbag line failed, but I guess she didn't realize the extent of...

Kelli (28:12.683)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (28:20.797)
how much money was owed. So his intentions were very good.

Kelli (28:27.369)
Absolutely. And listen, that's why they're still married. That's why they're growing their family. you know, he was doing what he thought was best for their family, although she wasn't aware of it. I'm sure he'll never make that mistake again, doing something like that without talking to her about it. But they got past it, you know? Shit happens in marriages. You got to roll with it. And you know, if you're in it for the long haul, then you just, you got to power through.

We Wine Whenever (28:31.464)
That's why they're still married. Right.

We Wine Whenever (28:51.08)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (28:57.352)
Yeah, you gotta just stick it out, absolutely.

Kelli (28:59.231)
Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (29:04.091)
And then...

It was, Andy says it was an unbelievable response that she received after she shared her story. And she said it really was. Like so many people, Jenna admitted to her, her mother admitted to her, her father admitted to her. And I didn't realize that Raquel admitted it on the after show.

Kelli (29:28.865)
Raquel admitted it right there.

We Wine Whenever (29:31.313)
Yes, no, but she had already done it. Yeah, yeah, no, she had already done it on the after show, which I didn't know. she, yeah. So, you know, the number...

Kelli (29:33.498)
okay, yeah, I didn't know that either. Okay.

Okay. Yeah. And she said a couple of other housewives reached out to her. Obviously she would not disclose who, but.

We Wine Whenever (29:45.754)
Yes. Right. But that's the thing is like when you when you when you talk about things like this that are going on and you have a platform like this, you really help a lot of people. You really get the word out there that, you know, it's OK. It's OK.

Kelli (30:05.215)
Yeah, and you know what this makes me think of, and I don't know why my mind just went near, like, I feel like, yes, you have a platform, and she brought light to this, and thank God she did, because other people need to understand, you know, people are so judgmental about this, obviously. And you look at Mia on Potomac, and what she's doing to Gordon, and talking about his mental health, and spinning it in such a negative light, like,

how it's affecting her and how horrible it's making her life. she, you know, and mental health is such a big issue in this country and she should be, she should just be doing it differently. If that's really what's going on, she should be doing it differently. I don't know why my head just went there.

We Wine Whenever (30:38.94)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (30:50.461)
I agree, I totally agree. Then Andy says, so, Uba, Jessel and Brynn are all kind of on the same journey of wanting a baby. Andy tells Brynn it was very brave for her to open up about her essay. And he asked like, why did you decide to do it? And she said,

It helps to share, it helps her to share too. Andy asked if she masks her shame and vulnerability with humor. And that's what she tries to do. I mean, that's what she, you know.

Kelli (31:27.967)
Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (31:34.96)
And then Andy asks if it was someone you knew. And she said, yes, he was courting her. And because he said, have you spoke to him since she said she still sees him. He asked if you thought about pressing charges. And she said, well, it's too hard because there's no proof.

Kelli (31:41.793)
and she still sees him.

We Wine Whenever (31:59.363)
Erin says it bothers her that this person is out there and can do this to someone else.

Kelli (32:06.089)
I thought what Jenna said was very powerful and very correct that sometimes when a woman speaks out, they are, you know, they are put on trial.

We Wine Whenever (32:09.862)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (32:18.491)
Right. Right.

Kelli (32:20.479)
So I believe that wholeheartedly, that that's what poor Brynn is going through.

We Wine Whenever (32:26.993)
Yes, I do too. I do too. And I was glad that Jenna stepped in with that because that was important to get out there. And Uba is crying and Andy asks like, why is she crying? And she said, because she knows, because she knows the person and she knows, cause Brynn said, I know why people commit crimes. Because, and you know, right.

Kelli (32:48.833)
Yeah, if you could get away with it, sure, somebody took that part of you that you'll never get back, you'll never be the same, you're never gonna look in the mirror at yourself and feel the same way about yourself that you did prior to that happening. And that is so sad.

We Wine Whenever (33:08.668)
That is sad. It is sad. it's, it just brings back up why it's so important for therapy. I mean, like just to heal your soul so that it's not so difficult every day. And I can imagine there's days she doesn't even want to get out of bed, you know? And it is sad. It is sad. It doesn't excuse her behavior, but it is sad.

Kelli (33:16.331)
Sure, absolutely.

Kelli (33:27.905)
Right, yeah.

Kelli (33:34.333)
No. You know, two things can be true and it has to be isolated, know, compartmentalized, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (33:38.148)
Yes. Yes.

Uba moved in with Oliver, so she now lives in Connecticut.

Kelli (33:46.911)
Just interesting how they would navigate next season if she comes back, right?

We Wine Whenever (33:52.88)
Yeah, yeah, because she said she gave up her New York apartment. But listen, she's, ooh, she can get an Airbnb for filming. Why not?

Kelli (34:00.041)
Yes, she can. If Meredith Marks can do it every season.

We Wine Whenever (34:02.748)
Right, right. She certainly can, right?

Kelli (34:07.263)
That's right, what am I saying?

We Wine Whenever (34:10.316)
Brynn says Gideon is the same as when they were engaged. she and him were in London at the same time and she was trying to make the appointment, but I guess he's just got a problem with commitment. Like he says the words, but his actions don't follow through.

Kelli (34:27.391)
Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (34:29.187)
And although he seems very charming and he's very handsome and he seems very supportive, if his actions aren't there, then his actions aren't there, you know?

Kelli (34:40.799)
Yeah, and you know, that's-

I don't know. mean, I think that, I think Brynn does want to be a mom and it would probably be the best thing for Brynn, given what she went through as a kid. It would probably be the best thing for her. But, and all she wants is, you know, a donor and she wants to have control. But if you're going to do that, then she should probably just go to a place and, you know, like what Lala did.

Don't do it with someone you have a history with because then you might be expecting more from that person. You know, but I think she probably wanted the financial backing from Gideon.

We Wine Whenever (35:10.907)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (35:22.459)
And listen, I don't know Brynn's circumstances. I don't know if she has a big enough support group around her to do this on her own. Because we know it's not easy having a baby. It's not easy. And she doesn't seem like she's got a big support group, unlike Lala, who's got a whole tribe.

Kelli (35:30.792)
Right. Right.

Kelli (35:43.029)
That's true. Yeah, that's true.

We Wine Whenever (35:45.595)
The next topic is Jessel's glow up. Well, this was an interesting topic because

Kelli (35:53.951)
At least we now know that they're having sex one or two times a week.

We Wine Whenever (35:57.847)
Yes, but he's asking her about her glow up and then Brynn is kind of like trying to answer again, like sticking her nose in where it didn't need to be. So she says that she's had Botox and then fillers and veneers. Yeah, no big deal. She looks gorgeous. She is gorgeous. She is gorgeous.

Kelli (36:08.661)
Yes.

Kelli (36:17.355)
when yours.

Kelli (36:21.451)
Absolutely, and that's all like they all do that

We Wine Whenever (36:25.615)
Right.

Kelli (36:26.955)
To me, that's not plastic surgery.

We Wine Whenever (36:29.657)
Well, it's not.

Kelli (36:30.945)
Botox and fillers, that's not right.

We Wine Whenever (36:33.519)
That's not plastic surgery. No.

And then he brings up the conversation by the pool about the love of Jessel's life was not her husband.

Kelli (36:49.053)
so bad.

We Wine Whenever (36:50.117)
Jessel says to Brynn, you distorted my words. We were talking about the craziest hookup and not who we were, the love of our lives. Right? And Jessel is yelling and she's like, imagine sitting on the couch with my husband and he thinks I'm lying to

Kelli (37:02.474)
of my love of my lives.

Kelli (37:11.007)
Yeah, and her family and friends watching this.

We Wine Whenever (37:13.688)
Right. And she's like, she's yelling at her and as she should be. Brynn, check your facts. I had to watch it with him. That is fucked up. My family and friends have to watch this. And then you walk into my dressing room, like nothing happened and you're wondering why I'm quiet. I'm glad she gave her all that. I'm glad she gave it to her. And Brynn's like, I'm so sorry. I just saw that the other day.

Kelli (37:35.076)
Absolutely, it had to be done.

We Wine Whenever (37:43.962)
because I guess she didn't watch those episodes either. Jessel said, well, why didn't you call me? Right. Right. Jessel's like, then when you saw it, why didn't you call me and apologize? And then Brynn says, well, I was like, I miss Erin and Sai. And she's like, so you're the kind of person is that you bond over talking shit about me to Erin and Sai and that's what you miss? Like,

Kelli (37:47.049)
And Jenna's like, stop talking, stop talking, stop talking. And she like physically can't shut up.

Kelli (37:56.98)
Right.

Kelli (38:10.731)
She is that kind of person,

She is that kind of person. Like I feel like last season, the first season, like Jessel was like the butt of all of their jokes. And then they went into this season and Sai was in a totally different place and not doing that and in a good place with Jessel. But Brynn missed that and created this whole scene when they were sitting out by the pool that day.

We Wine Whenever (38:20.836)
She was, and even, even.

We Wine Whenever (38:39.802)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (38:42.334)
And Aaron fell for it.

We Wine Whenever (38:44.516)
Yeah. And she's like, and she said to her, I'm questioning your character to my core. I'm always trying to uplift you. I'm always trying to make you feel better. You know, she apologizes. Brynn says, you know, I'm sorry. Jenna's crying. Jenna's crying and says Brynn putting this on TV is horrible. And she's saying to her, to Brynn, just stop. Just say you're sorry. Stop trying to defend yourself. Just stop. Just stop.

Kelli (39:10.281)
Exactly.

We Wine Whenever (39:14.466)
And Sai did apologize too. a hundred percent. I didn't write down that Erin apologized, but I'm sure that she did. And I don't think we're done because that's my last bit of notes. I think, yeah. So I think we're going to get, we're going to get a little bit more with that because yeah.

Kelli (39:18.367)
You could tell Sai really felt bad about it. Did Erin apologize?

Kelli (39:29.985)
Yeah, that is how it ended. That is how it ends.

Kelli (39:38.603)
Do we know if there's three episodes?

We Wine Whenever (39:40.98)
I think there's only two. Yeah, I think there's only two.

Kelli (39:46.987)
A lot of people online are saying like the season sucked, but the reunion's good.

We Wine Whenever (39:52.036)
Yeah.

Kelli (39:53.065)
I mean, we know they're casting. We saw that.

We Wine Whenever (39:56.792)
Yep, we know they're casting.

Kelli (39:58.611)
I would imagine Rebecca's definitely not coming back. I have a feeling Brynn's not coming back.

We Wine Whenever (40:03.918)
I don't think Brynn's coming back either.

Kelli (40:07.169)
especially depending on what this big secret is, if it is in fact about her, which I think it is.

We Wine Whenever (40:15.245)
Yeah, I don't know. We'll have to wait and see. We'll have to wait and see. So tell me what happened on Watch What Happens Live with Austin.

Kelli (40:17.951)
Yeah.

Kelli (40:21.515)
So Patricia and Austin were on and it was very good. And there were two, Watch What Crappens, the podcast. Those gentlemen were behind the bar and they were great. And they said that Jessel was the MVP for New York this season.

We Wine Whenever (40:28.756)
okay.

Kelli (40:40.497)
Andy asked Austin if he foresaw the breakup with Paige and Craig. And he said he had a feeling for about a month prior that something was going on. And Andy asked Patricia, and she said, I think that Paige was mean to Craig. I thought she was mean to him. And then Andy asked Austin about the rumors about Paige being with someone else. And Austin said,

that he feels that Craig's been going through a hard time, but he has come to terms with the fact that it is not a rumor. And it is true.

I did see that Paige clapped back, but she didn't clap back very well. She just said something like, somebody I haven't talked to in six months thinks that the rumor's not true. okay. Something like that. But Paige definitely insinuated that she is with somebody else, and Craig knows, and he's come to terms with it.

We Wine Whenever (41:31.618)
the rumor is true.

We Wine Whenever (41:40.633)
That's interesting.

Kelli (41:41.933)
Mm-hmm. I'm trying to think if he's if they said anything else They did talk about the fact that did you watch the what? So Andy brought up he no, I'm sorry somebody asked I think a virtual viewer asked if Patricia has Apologized to JT being that he didn't call her a bitch and she was like, well

We Wine Whenever (41:49.548)
They talk about GT? Did they talk about GT?

Kelli (42:06.419)
I don't think the jury's in whether or not he called me a bitch or not because now they're saying that it happened after they un-miked. But she said, the fact is is I can be a bitch. So, you know, she's not holding anything against JT basically. Did you watch the latest episode?

We Wine Whenever (42:23.947)
Yeah.

I did not.

Kelli (42:29.611)
I just watched it last night, so we'll talk about it. It's interesting. I don't know how much longer JT's gonna be on the show. I believe he's getting ready to depart, but he is in the latest episode. But it was very good. I mean, it's still worth watching Patricia and Austin on the after show. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (42:34.57)
Okay.

We Wine Whenever (42:44.267)
Okay.

We Wine Whenever (42:51.83)
Okay, all right, yeah, I definitely will watch it. started to watch Southern Trauma, I just didn't get to finish it. I saw Vanita and him were talking and it was like the next day, right? After the...

After the party, right? Yeah.

Kelli (43:12.959)
Yeah, they went back to his space, his drinking space, whatever that space.

We Wine Whenever (43:17.149)
Yeah, yeah. So yeah, I didn't finish it. So I have to finish it.

Kelli (43:22.143)
Yeah, we should talk about it. It's good. Southern hospitality was good.

We Wine Whenever (43:23.896)
Okay.

Okay, I didn't watch that one yet either. I'm like... I did, I did.

Kelli (43:29.067)
Did you watch the last episode though? So what are your thoughts on this whole Emmy and Will thing? I feel like they're all coming pretty hard at their relationship and I don't like it.

We Wine Whenever (43:42.197)
Really. I think Will is not good for Emmy. I think Will is a dog. I mean, all of his friends, his friends are calling him out on it.

Kelli (43:43.347)
I just don't like it.

Kelli (43:51.104)
Okay.

Kelli (43:59.071)
I know and I hate that because I like I'm rooting for them.

We Wine Whenever (44:01.673)
And she just, she follows him blindly. I don't like that. I don't like that at all. She just like, nothing you tell her. It could be right in front of her. She's not gonna see it.

Kelli (44:16.095)
Yeah, I've been there. I get it.

We Wine Whenever (44:19.391)
I just, feel like she's gonna get hurt so bad.

Kelli (44:24.715)
She's so, I mean, she is in such good shape. Like she's really, like the transformation.

We Wine Whenever (44:30.027)
I think, yeah, but I think that that's all stress. think that's, you know, I think she's trying to do everything she can to keep him. Yep. Yep, that's what I think. don't think this whole thing is healthy for her at all.

Kelli (44:39.233)
That's how she's coping. Like she's going to the gym. She's overdoing it. Okay.

Kelli (44:48.257)
Maybe when the housewives slow down, we could start talking about this more. Very interesting, I don't know if you saw this, you may have. I literally just saw it, because I wasn't on my phone that much today, right before I logged on. So did you see the coming attractions for the Potomac reunion?

We Wine Whenever (44:54.784)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (45:09.878)
I've seen a couple different coming attractions. I sent you something.

Kelli (45:14.421)
Did you send me the thing about Stacy and TJ and Eddie?

We Wine Whenever (45:19.286)
no, I didn't send you that one. I didn't see that one.

Kelli (45:21.579)
So TJ's not at the reunion, and basically Eddie says that he FaceTimed TJ and asked him why he wasn't there, and TJ said that Stacey was paying him to be her boyfriend on the show, and her checks weren't coming in, so he didn't go to the reunion. And I don't know if this is true. I literally just saw this before I logged on.

We Wine Whenever (45:23.733)
Okay.

Kelli (45:47.293)
I mean, we said it in the beginning of the season. It was very reminiscent of Kenya Moore's first season with Roger, the HVAC guy. It was very reminiscent of that.

We Wine Whenever (45:59.422)
Yes.

Kelli (46:00.713)
So we shall see.

We Wine Whenever (46:03.924)
Yeah, I saw a lot of stuff about Karen. I saw Karen, she did a video message for them. saw, yes, I saw that. Giselle was crying, Andy asked why I saw that. She said, know, I love her. You know, she's, I love her. I saw Ashley said that she heard that there was a...

Kelli (46:10.953)
Yes. Giselle had a picture of her. Did you see that?

Kelli (46:24.105)
As much as I hate her, I love her.

We Wine Whenever (46:31.646)
another passenger in the car and he fled the scene. And you see on the tape, this is the one I sent you, you see on the body cam footage, she says, which is probably why she thought she'd be vindicated, she says to Ray, I wasn't driving, the security that you hired for me was driving.

Kelli (46:33.984)
Yes.

Kelli (46:57.487)
We Wine Whenever (46:58.545)
Yes. Yes.

Kelli (47:00.545)
She said this at the scene while she was drunk.

We Wine Whenever (47:03.763)
Yes. Yes. I don't know if somebody fled the scene. Was she? If there was somebody else there that fled the scene, I don't know.

Kelli (47:06.485)
Why is she driving? She had to be driving.

We Wine Whenever (47:18.345)
I don't know.

Kelli (47:20.737)
That's crazy.

We Wine Whenever (47:22.749)
Yeah, I don't know, but I do know that I did read that she fired her attorney. She's got a new attorney.

Kelli (47:30.773)
That's just a tactic to put off her sentencing, though.

We Wine Whenever (47:33.513)
But it's definitely a tactic to put off her sentencing. The other attorney was gonna file an appeal. well, mean, if that is true, there was somebody else.

Kelli (47:44.875)
So this attorney will file an appeal for her.

We Wine Whenever (47:54.741)
then, you know, that changes everything. That changes everything.

Kelli (47:59.999)
It totally does, and you see Wendy, I keep meaning to ask you this. Every time they talk about Potomac on Bravo, they show a clip of Wendy saying, this changes everything. Have we seen her say that on the show other than these coming attractions?

We Wine Whenever (48:19.057)
No, no, no, no, it's these coming attractions. And I don't know if she's talking about Mia or Karen. It's one of the two. It's something to do with Mia or Karen. And I don't know which it's about because she also says she is not my friend and will never be my friend.

Kelli (48:25.045)
Me too.

Kelli (48:32.64)
Yes.

Kelli (48:38.003)
Yeah. Yes, she does say that at the reunion.

We Wine Whenever (48:41.288)
I don't know if it's about Mia or Karen. And again, I don't know.

Kelli (48:45.515)
But when she says this changes everything, that's a confessional look.

She's in a confessional when she says that. That's not at the reunion.

We Wine Whenever (48:54.438)
Okay. Okay, but maybe it's a confessional we never saw.

Kelli (48:58.621)
Right, maybe it's in this last step. Because they have the season finale coming up, right? And then the reunion. Or did they have the season finale? Right. Right, right, right, right. So that's right. Coming up.

We Wine Whenever (49:06.066)
No, we didn't have the season finale yet. We have to do the dogs.

We Wine Whenever (49:11.858)
Right, right. I don't know.

Kelli (49:15.401)
It's gonna be a good reunion.

We Wine Whenever (49:17.3)
It's gonna be a good reunion. It really is gonna be a good reunion.

Kelli (49:23.253)
What else did I say? saw Teresa was talking about Rachel Fuda saying that nobody would probably watch the season if she comes back, if Rachel comes back. I'm like, man, why is she still talking about them? It's unbelievable.

We Wine Whenever (49:32.754)
I love Rachel.

We Wine Whenever (49:40.669)
It is.

Kelli (49:41.619)
Nobody's even talking about her or thinking about her. They're just living their lives. Rachel's preparing for her new baby. Melissa is swimming in all the money she's making of her sprinkle cookies. Danielle is making hysterical videos, spoofing Jen Aiden. Like they are all living their lives.

We Wine Whenever (49:47.518)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (49:59.378)
I did see today, I don't know if it's true, but I saw a lot of reports that it's official that Jen Eden has been fired. But I don't know if it's true.

Kelli (50:06.781)
I saw that Up and Adams said it, but quite honestly, after Salt Lake City, don't, he's got no, you know, there's no credibility there anymore. No.

We Wine Whenever (50:10.899)
I don't believe him. No.

No, I don't believe him. But I did see it other places. I did see his, I did see it other places too. So I don't know if that's true or not. Danielle, I don't know if you saw our girl Danielle has a fundraiser coming up in Aberdeen at an Italian restaurant. I would go, but it's, can't afford it, unfortunately. I think it's $150, but it is a good cause. It is a good cause. just, I don't have it right now, but.

Kelli (50:38.785)
What is it?

Kelli (50:45.633)
No, me neither, me neither. Yeah, we always support Danielle. But yeah, that's a little too steep right now, Danielle. It's January, we're still trying to recover from Christmas. Oh my God, it's February.

We Wine Whenever (50:46.831)
Otherwise I would go support it.

Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. No, it's February. It's February. It's February. In June, we're going to be saying, I'm still trying to recover from Christmas.

Kelli (51:03.482)
and I'm still trying to recover from Christmas.

Kelli (51:11.187)
Exactly. It's like I'm still trying to lose the baby weight and he's 17.

Kelli (51:18.399)
This year's my year.

We Wine Whenever (51:19.699)
This is it. So, all right, I guess until next time, if you guys could please give us some five star reviews and share this with your friends, follow us, subscribe, do all those fun things. Until next time, bye.

Kelli (51:33.579)
Bye.