RHOBH-The Board of Directors Call a Meeting

RHOBH-The Board of Directors Call a Meeting

 RHOBH S14 E9 - "Beachy Keen"

Key Moments & Themes:

• Kyle's Empty Nest & Family Reflections:
  • Kyle calls her daughter Portia, checking in on her new car and time at her father’s house.
  • She reflects on the loneliness of having a big family but often being home alone now.
• Dorit & Boz - A Friendship Check-In:
  • Dorit confides in Boz about her past marital struggles with PK, contradicting Kyle’s claim of not knowing.
  • Boz accuses Kyle of lying about her knowledge of Dorit and PK’s relationship troubles.
  • Dorit reveals PK requested a separation with the help of his sponsor.
• Kyle, Erika, Sutton & Garcelle - The Board of Directors Dinner:
  • Kyle gathers the women for dinner to rally support in her issues with Dorit.
  • She vents about being scrutinized over her life, marriage, and sexuality.
  • Sutton calls out Kyle’s hypocrisy, pointing out how Kyle has often demanded transparency from others.
  • Kyle attempts an apology for her previous outburst but remains defensive.
• Garcelle's Beach House Getaway:
  • The ladies prepare for their trip, with Dorit sharing a touching moment about her son Jager’s questions about divorce.
  • They arrive at Garcelle’s beach house, where she gifts them loungewear.
  • Dorit is hesitant to swap her curated outfit for pajamas but plays along.
  • Jennifer surprises Garcelle with a Dolce & Gabbana toaster matching her outfit.
• Beachside Talks & Reconciliations:
  • Kyle and Dorit attempt to mend their friendship, discussing trust and loyalty.
  • Kyle acknowledges the need to move past negativity but struggles with her role in PK and Dorit’s issues.
  • Garcelle shares an emotional moment about the impact of divorce on children.
• Games, Lanterns & Chaos on the Beach:
  • The women play a game about what they’d do for $1M, with Erika joking about prioritizing money over love.
  • Their gratitude lanterns are a disaster due to strong winds, blowing away before they can light them.
  • Kyle stumbles upon a dead bird on the beach, sending the group into a comedic panic.
• Takeaways
  • Kyle is adjusting to a new family dynamic after her daughter's sleepover.
  • Dorit finds solace in her new confidant, Boz, amidst her marital struggles.
  • The ongoing conflict between Kyle and Dorit is wearing thin on the group.
  • Garcelle and Sutton's dinner plans reveal strategic alliances.
  • Sutton's boldness often leads to uncomfortable conversations.
  • Kyle's apology is met with skepticism from Sutton.
  • The hosts appreciate the beauty of Garcelle's beach house setup.
  • The importance of communication in friendships is emphasized.
  • Dorit's emotional struggles are relatable and poignant.
  • The hosts critique the production choices in the show. The humor in unexpected situations can lighten the mood.
  • Fashion choices can reflect personal style even in casual settings.
  • Gift-giving etiquette is important in social situations.
  • A well-planned beach day can enhance the experience.
  • Friendship dynamics often involve communication and conflict resolution.
  • Parenting challenges are relatable and can be discussed openly.
  • Reality TV often mirrors real-life relationships and conflicts.
  • Product reviews can be a fun way to engage with listeners.
  • Planning trips can create excitement and anticipation.
  • Celebrity interactions can provide insight

Transcript

We Wine Whenever (00:00.802)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:03.509)
I'm Kelly.

Lori (00:04.292)
And I'm Lori.

We Wine Whenever (00:05.71)
We are talking about Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, season 14, episode number nine, Beachy Keen. I don't, all right, I don't love it.

Kelli (00:15.181)
Thank

Kelli (00:18.591)
I think it's cute, I say peachy keen all the time. From Greece, peachy keen jelly bean.

We Wine Whenever (00:21.27)
okay. Yeah.

Lori (00:24.946)
Yeah, it was kind of a Mets a Mets title, a Mets a Mets episode, you know?

We Wine Whenever (00:28.408)
Yeah.

We start out with Kyle. She's FaceTiming with her daughter, Portia, and she asked her how it was sleeping at her father's house. So now we know Portia's like, she got her Porsche last week, so she's got her car. She's sleeping over her father's house. Kyle's like walking around the house and she's like, she's used to having like a big family and everyone around. And most of the time she's walking around and she's the only one there. And I'm sure that's weird.

I'm sure that's really weird. Yeah.

Lori (01:00.368)
Yeah, it's a big adjustment.

Kelli (01:03.009)
Yeah, I like how she says she knows her girls want to spend time alone so they can like, you know, talk about what's going on and then she invites herself to lunch with them.

Lori (01:12.882)
Yeah, that was a little cringy. That was a little cringe ass, that girl.

Kelli (01:15.807)
understand, get it, but it was just so funny where she was like, you know, I know they want to talk to each other about what's going on.

We Wine Whenever (01:22.881)
Yeah, but she really wants to see them. And I almost thought when she did that, I almost thought like, because the way Portia was reacting, I almost felt like maybe they were having lunch with her father.

Kelli (01:32.449)
That's what I thought.

Lori (01:33.51)
Yeah, something.

We Wine Whenever (01:34.35)
I still think that may be the case because like she wasn't really inviting her and cut.

Lori (01:40.016)
now.

Kelli (01:40.449)
He wasn't. She was avoiding telling her where they were going.

Lori (01:44.441)
yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (01:44.639)
Yeah, yeah. I feel bad for her, to be honest with you. Then we see her, FaceTimes Erica and Erica says that there's too many people involved in this whole thing with you and Dorit. I like how she called them all the board of directors. Like, I love that. I thought that was hysterical. And she thinks, know, Kyle and Dorit just need to have their own separate conversation, which I completely agree with.

Lori (02:01.702)
Yeah.

Kelli (02:01.837)
Yeah.

Kelli (02:10.699)
Yeah.

Lori (02:11.056)
Yeah, absolutely. It should be just between the two of them. Plus, you know, no one else wants to hear it anymore. It's been so many episodes that you're like, all right, all right, all right. Yeah. They don't want to hear it anymore.

Kelli (02:21.547)
Yeah, we don't want to hear it anymore. Imagine them. They're hearing it more than we are.

We Wine Whenever (02:23.957)
Right. Right. Exactly. And then Dorit meets up with Boz and Boz asks Dorit if...

if we should talk about like what's going on, know, how, you know, how she's feeling. And she's saying that in her confessional, Dorit's saying that Boz is like her new person. Like this is her ride or die. And she feels like that she can really confide in her. And we've seen that she's been doing that since the exact moment that she met her at the party. She like just blurted out her whole like business, right?

Lori (02:58.66)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (02:58.786)
Yeah.

Kelli (03:02.519)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (03:04.768)
But she does start saying that 18 months ago, because Boze is asking, why did Kyle not know? Because Kyle's saying that she didn't know that you guys were having a hard time. And Dorit says, well, I told Kyle 18 months ago that we were having a tough time, but I didn't even know that it was going to lead to a separation. So I think.

Really what that's kind of what Kyle was saying not that she didn't know that they were having a hard time but like there was That conversation we saw on air where she said that they're having a hard time But then she didn't hear anything because they were in a bad place and then all of a sudden they're separated and that's when Dorit says well listen like you know, he PK was at the house with his sponsor and Like they blurted it out and the sponsor was doing all the talking

Kelli (03:44.941)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (03:59.648)
Which, that's weird.

Lori (03:59.696)
Yeah, it's just weird. Weird.

Kelli (04:02.483)
It is, but, and listen, I'm not a Kyle defender, but I agree with her. Like, if that conversation on air was the only conversation she had with Dorit about the issues in Dorit's marriage, how was she supposed to know they were gonna get separated if Dorit didn't even know they were gonna get separated? Like, if Dorit wasn't calling her, I mean, listen, we all have friends, we all have friends who have marital issues, we all have marital issues, like, there's no secret.

We Wine Whenever (04:16.468)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (04:22.194)
Exactly.

Kelli (04:30.125)
you you talk about it. If it gets to that point where it's like, you're, you know, it's that bad, you're going to tell somebody. And if Kyle's your good friend, you would have told her. So I believe Kyle that she didn't really know how serious it was.

We Wine Whenever (04:47.179)
I do too, especially after she gave us that information, but Bose saw it differently because in her confessional, she's calling Kyle a liar. She's in denial about the death of her friendship with Dorit and her knowledge of hers and PK's marriage. How could she get that from that conversation? Because that's not what I got.

Kelli (05:07.711)
Unless she's saying that Kyle's not being honest with her conversations with Dorit, maybe Bo's is saying it wasn't just that one conversation that they had on air. Maybe Dorit has told Bo's that she did confide in Kyle additionally, right, and Kyle's not acknowledging that. That's how I, when she was calling her a liar, that's how I took it. I was like, maybe they did have other conversations.

Lori (05:26.22)
after that.

We Wine Whenever (05:30.624)
I mean that-

We Wine Whenever (05:36.533)
Well, why wouldn't she have said that? Like, why wouldn't we have seen that on camera? Because that was the whole point she was trying to get at when she's asking her that. You know? I mean, I don't know. I thought that that... I was very surprised to hear that one, she was blindsided by it, and two, that the sponsor was there and kind of suggested it. Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (05:43.829)
Yeah, yeah, I don't know

Lori (05:59.954)
Yeah, leading the conversation and not direct.

Kelli (06:03.117)
Well, that tells me that PK had a conversation with his sponsor and said this is something he'd be interested in. I don't think the sponsor would just blurt it out had it not been discussed prior.

We Wine Whenever (06:10.918)
Right, yeah, definitely.

No.

Lori (06:15.672)
No, that was a previous conversation. But I mean, you know, come on, don't be a man. You want to get separated from your wife, then strap your balls on and you tell her that you don't do it through your AA sponsor. Stop it. Stop.

We Wine Whenever (06:24.105)
Right, exactly.

We Wine Whenever (06:32.798)
Yeah.

Kelli (06:32.937)
No, and it's interesting. I God bless PK for being in recovery and he seems to be doing well and getting a sponsor is obviously a huge part of that and having accountability, but he doesn't strike me as the type of guy that needs somebody else to say something to his wife for him.

Lori (06:53.328)
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what was going on with that. And did you see that in the after show, Dorit said that he no longer has that sponsor because something happened when Dorit was flipping out in the Sprinter van. I forget what argument, because God knows there's fucking tons of arguments. What argument was going on and Dorit was explaining that during this time, one of the reasons why she got so charged up in the argument is because at this time,

We Wine Whenever (06:53.812)
Yeah.

Kelli (06:55.424)
Yeah, it's interesting.

Lori (07:23.628)
She was, they must've been away somewhere on a trip in the Sprinter van. And so something happened with the kids, with Dorit and PK's kids when Dorit was away. Something happened where the sponsor got involved in something and she said, PK realized that the sponsor had stepped out of bounds. So he know he, he got rid of the sponsor. It's someone he's still friends with PK.

but that person is no longer his sponsor. He got a new sponsor. After some altercation that happened where, like Dorit said, something happened where he overstepped in his involvement in regards to the children, the sponsor.

Kelli (07:56.524)
He has a new one.

Kelli (08:09.515)
I mean, getting new sponsors, it happens. There's a million different reasons you could, so good for him for getting a new one. You know, I'm sorry that happened, but...

We Wine Whenever (08:17.45)
But wait, that is the same sponsor that overstepped and suggested that they separate. I mean, that sounds like a big overstepper.

Lori (08:22.234)
Yes. Yes.

Kelli (08:26.731)
Right, right. Yes, you know what? Now that I hear that, maybe he or they and PK, I don't know if it's man or woman, they and PK did not have a conversation about separation prior to him dropping it on Dorit when they were at the house.

Lori (08:26.77)
have a big overstep for them.

We Wine Whenever (08:28.689)
Eh. Yeah.

Lori (08:42.234)
Maybe it was the sponsor trying to think that they're a therapist and being like, maybe you guys just to spend some time apart and blah, blah, blah, and then blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. it was interesting because when Dorit was saying how that she hid a lot of PK's behavior from other people. And that can make you a little bit bitter.

Kelli (08:46.795)
Right, overstepping.

Mm-hmm. Right.

Lori (09:11.154)
And I have to say that I have, not in the same way, but I certainly have been guilty of that sometimes in my own marriage, especially with my kid. You know, like there's a lot of times where you just like, don't tell them things necessarily, you know what I mean? And then, and then you're get pissed off. Like, so it just, it just doesn't serve anybody well ever to do that. And I can kind of see.

Kelli (09:28.277)
Yeah. Yep. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (09:37.617)
Right.

Lori (09:41.016)
I kind of see that with Dorit that she probably, and she said she did that. kind of, you know, she was the one who was always smoothing things over. And so maybe there was things that she didn't necessarily tell Kyle because she was in that, let me keep the feathers unruffled kind of gig.

We Wine Whenever (10:01.745)
Right. mean, that's very possible. It is very possible. The next thing we see is Garcelle is talking to Sutton on the phone and they're all, they're going to dinner with Kyle and Erica and Garcelle and Sutton. Kyle invites them to dinner and it's the night before they're going to go to Garcelle's beach house and

Garcelle and Sutton are saying that we're having this conversation because Kyle wants us on her side because she's at odds with Dorie.

Kelli (10:33.963)
It was a very strategic move by Kyle.

Lori (10:33.986)
It's her... yeah, was a preemptive strike.

We Wine Whenever (10:36.358)
Yes, you're right. So the ladies meet up at Arden. I wrote down that this place was absolutely beautiful. The flowers, it looked way more beautiful than Villa Belanca. mean, the...

Kelli (10:38.721)
Yes, preemptive strike.

Lori (10:47.078)
Yeah.

Kelli (10:47.169)
Did it not look like Villa Blanca?

It did look more beautiful, but it reminded me of Villa Blanca.

We Wine Whenever (10:55.059)
those flowers and the decor, I was like, I want to go there. I have to put that on my list of places I would like to go. I thought it was interesting that Garcelle showed up first, so her and Kyle are sitting there together. And you know, those two have never really, they just never hit it off. I mean, they never did.

Lori (10:55.228)
very pretty.

Lori (11:01.115)
It's very funny.

Kelli (11:04.546)
Yeah.

Kelli (11:18.135)
Nope, remember Kyle said she didn't donate to the charity. I mean, this goes way back to Denise Richards.

We Wine Whenever (11:21.607)
Yep.

Yeah.

Kelli (11:26.005)
Yeah, no, they, you're right, they never...

Lori (11:26.642)
You're like, do okay in a group, but one-on-one there's like this, mm, know, there's a little pause. Now, I watch it on Peacock. So on Peacock, they put on a commercial in a Jeep for Jeep. And it's Dorit is in the Jeep with the, from Salt Lake City, from the real estate.

We Wine Whenever (11:32.144)
Yeah.

Kelli (11:32.181)
Yeah, this underlying thing.

Kelli (11:49.526)
yeah, with the chick from Sold on S...

We Wine Whenever (11:52.464)
Yes. Yeah, we had that commercial too.

Lori (11:55.25)
I didn't know if you guys had that, I thought it was cute.

Kelli (11:55.489)
Yeah, because I didn't know who the other girl was at first because quite honestly, she looks like Bronwyn from OC. That girl. She's not blonde, but her face, I'm like, is that Bronwyn from OC? And now she just has dark hair? Yeah, old OC, yeah. And then it clicked. She's from Soldon, SLC.

We Wine Whenever (12:03.996)
The other, the...

Lori (12:04.073)
We Wine Whenever (12:11.406)
Old OC. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (12:19.429)
Yeah, yeah, I saw that.

Kelli (12:23.191)
What really would have made the commercial amazing is if Dorit was smoking a cigarette while they were driving.

Lori (12:26.994)
It would have been great. Yep.

We Wine Whenever (12:28.422)
Yeah.

Kelli (12:30.647)
Come on, Bravo, get your shit together. Or Jeep, whoever the fuck it was.

Lori (12:32.461)
There you go. Yep, yep, yep.

We Wine Whenever (12:36.763)
By the way, we were talking about commercials. I keep seeing that Lisa Barlow commercial all the time now.

Lori (12:41.247)
it's so bad. I watched it. It's so bad.

Kelli (12:43.275)
It's me too and it's so bad.

We Wine Whenever (12:45.819)
I've seen it on Peacock too, because I started watching Peacock. They keep playing that same commercial on Peacock.

Lori (12:51.727)
Kelli (12:52.343)
terrible.

We Wine Whenever (12:55.781)
I'm glad we all agree about that. So then Sutton arrives and Erica arrives to the Arden. What?

Kelli (12:57.43)
Kuh.

Lori (12:57.724)
Arab.

Lori (13:05.522)
I love her purse. I love Sutton's purse. Do you guys see Sutton's? Oh, delicious. I'll put a picture up of it. It is awesome.

Kelli (13:11.483)
I didn't notice it.

Kelli (13:17.683)
What did it look like?

We Wine Whenever (13:19.333)
Yeah, what did it look like?

Kelli (13:24.342)
Okay.

We Wine Whenever (13:27.651)
So Kyle, they all get there and.

Lori (13:33.382)
Kyle gives a big apology.

We Wine Whenever (13:35.239)
Well, Sutton says, what are we doing here? Why are we here? And Kyle says, I want to apologize. I want to apologize.

Lori (13:40.827)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (13:53.735)
She is when she's talking, before that happened, before actually that happened, she's telling to, she's talking to Garcelle and she's like, listen, my whole life is being scrutinized. My marriage is being scrutinized. My sexuality is being scrutinized. And now my character is being scrutinized. And Garcelle says, well, that really seemed to trigger you. Is it because it's your character that's being scrutinized? And she's like, yeah, you know, I wouldn't like, that's what bothered her the most is that it was her character that was being scrutinized.

Kelli (14:23.297)
Here's the thing though, you wanna complain about your sexuality and your marriage being scrutinized? Stop putting shit out into the media. You're the one putting it out into the media. You're the one taking the pictures with this Morgan chick. You're the one putting out statements about your marriage. Tell everybody to fuck off and mind their own business and stop putting shit out there and nobody will scrutinize anything.

Lori (14:37.232)
You're the one on a reality show. You're the one on a reality show.

Lori (14:47.43)
Hey, she chose to be on a reality TV show.

Kelli (14:50.701)
Exactly, but even that aside, like what you're doing off camera when you're not filming, that's when all the pictures of Morgan and her were coming out. That's when all the stories about her and Mo were coming out. She was putting that stuff out there. Stop talking to the media.

We Wine Whenever (15:07.398)
Well, I don't think she was putting that stuff out there. She was living her life.

Kelli (15:10.849)
Well, she 100 % was. They were putting statements out and she was posting pictures with Morgan on her own social media.

I mean...

We Wine Whenever (15:20.486)
I did think it was interesting that she was saying that, you know, like, don't need to, you know, I don't need to be questioned by these housewives. Like, that's not something I do. And then all of a sudden they show all the clips of every time she was... All the other housewives she's been questioning and really like, she did it to Erica, she did it to Sutton, she did it to Denise Richards, and she was going in hard. And I would love to...

Kelli (15:33.645)
Yep. Since 2010, she's been doing it.

We Wine Whenever (15:50.253)
I would love to hear her side of that. Like after she saw that, like, you know, when you're living it, you don't remember it, but I didn't remember she did all those things. And then all of a sudden you're like, wow, yeah, she's doing the exact same thing she's upset with them for doing.

Kelli (16:04.971)
Yeah, so you can love or hate Sutton, but Sutton is 100 % correct saying what you need to apologize for is holding everybody else to a higher standard than you hold yourself. You think you don't have to be subject to this, but the rest of us do? What is that?

Lori (16:04.978)
And I'm watching it. Yeah.

Lori (16:21.5)
Right. And I'm watching it and I'm thinking to myself, boy, man, Kyle, you, you piss somebody off in production. Somebody in production is like receipts, timelines. They were like, and, and, and Sutton was, Sutton was not taking her foot off of Kyle's throat. And I thought Garcelle's face was hysterical because Garcelle's face was like the cat that ate the canary. She was just like,

Kelli (16:35.647)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kelli (16:49.995)
Yes. Yep. She was 100 % right though, Sutton.

Lori (16:51.986)
you

We Wine Whenever (16:53.273)
Ow.

No, she definitely was right, but I will say the way that she went about it was a little bit harsh. It was a little bit harsh.

Kelli (17:02.721)
I think that Kyle can dish it, she just can't take it. And I think that that's, know, cause she could be harsh too.

Lori (17:10.598)
Well, Luz, Sutton is in no way subtle or she just not not at all. She does not know how to...

We Wine Whenever (17:19.042)
She's not. Sutton is not as-

Lori (17:25.692)
weave it in in an artistic manner so that you're still getting your point. You're still insulting the person, but you're doing it with a smile on your face. She does not have that art. She does not know how to do that. She just comes out with the fucking hatchet.

Kelli (17:42.615)
But Kyle saying this isn't good for my mental health. Well, it wasn't good for anybody else's mental health when you were doing it to them. I mean, certainly not Erica when she was faced with all these lawsuits. And Denise Richards when you were accusing her of having an extramarital affair with a woman. Like, whose mental health is gonna benefit from all that?

Lori (17:49.532)
Well, there you go.

We Wine Whenever (17:55.396)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (18:06.853)
No, I agree. I I definitely think that she needs to be held accountable. I do have actually my notes on Sutton. So she was in the sparkles and the gold and the handbag I did write it looked like a cigar box turned into a handbag. And Erica says, oh my gosh, that's so cute. Where did you get it? And Sutton says, Dolce & Gabbana, they gave it to us when we went to La Scala.

Kelli (18:11.287)
Yeah.

Lori (18:35.826)
I liked it.

Kelli (18:36.663)
What's La Scala?

We Wine Whenever (18:36.756)
I liked it too. I'm thinking it's a restaurant, isn't it? I think it's a restaurant, but they gave...

Kelli (18:40.077)
okay.

Lori (18:41.018)
I don't know.

Kelli (18:44.171)
it is a restaurant because I make that salad. I make the lascala salad. Yes, yes, yes. But the romaine lettuce and the cut up. Yes, yes, yes. Yes. The lascala salad. I think the Kardashians made it famous, but it's really good. I make that. Basically, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (18:47.756)
Right? it? It's, it's, yeah.

Lori (18:47.999)
there you go.

Lori (18:57.478)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like an Italian sub, but in a salad. Yeah, I know what you're talking about.

We Wine Whenever (19:04.449)
Yeah. So I did note that handbag. Just didn't realize it. And when Sutton did say, you know, why are we here? Erica's first said, well, this is a meeting of the board of directors. Exactly. Exactly. I do think the Fox four five is still going though.

Lori (19:08.284)
There you go.

Kelli (19:09.258)
Interesting.

Kelli (19:17.869)
No more Fox Force 5, so now it's got to be the board of directors.

Kelli (19:30.601)
It's still, mean, it was Kyle, Teddy, Lisa, Erica, Jane, and who was the fifth?

We Wine Whenever (19:34.35)
Sedulis Erica.

We Wine Whenever (19:41.485)
Who was the fifth?

Kelli (19:43.222)
It was Rinna, Kyle, Erica Jean, Teddy.

We Wine Whenever (19:50.636)
It wasn't Sutton.

Kelli (19:51.977)
It wasn't set and she wasn't on yet.

We Wine Whenever (19:53.822)
Now who

Lori (19:54.172)
We'll have to ask our listeners to let us know.

Kelli (19:57.165)
Yeah, somebody please help us out. Who's the fifth in the Fox Force Five? I mean, we could probably just Google it.

We Wine Whenever (19:59.785)
I can't, yeah, I can't remember. The Google, we have it,

Lori (20:04.72)
Yeah, we could. We have to Google.

we have the curve.

Kelli (20:12.941)
We Wine Whenever (20:14.18)
It's okay.

Lori (20:18.48)
It's life with children. That's what it is.

Kelli (20:20.331)
No, he wants to talk about his game. I want to talk about his game too, but after I'm done.

We Wine Whenever (20:25.155)
There you go. There you go. That's what we got to do. That's what we got to do. So when Kyle's trying to apologize,

Lori (20:29.582)
God, that's so funny.

We Wine Whenever (20:37.951)
Sutton wants specifically, what is it you're apologizing for? And she's like, well, I meant my sentiment, I'm apologizing for the way I left. Everything I said, I stand by, but I said, fuck off as I was leaving. said, the way I stormed out of there, I'm apologizing for. And then Sutton's like, okay, but she's still like, and Kyle's like, listen, this is my apology. I'm going to do it the way I want.

Lori (21:08.188)
funny.

Kelli (21:08.717)
I mean, I think that like you guys said Sutton, she's like a bulldog, but she should have just said to Kyle, I appreciate your apology because personally, I always feel like if someone has the courage to apologize, because apologizing isn't easier, you should always accept it. Like no matter what you should accept it. But you know, she could have said, I mean, you don't have to forgive. I'm just saying acknowledge the fact that somebody

We Wine Whenever (21:28.394)
Right. Right.

Kelli (21:38.527)
apologize to you. I appreciate your apology, but here's where I'm coming from. I feel like you treat us differently than the way you want to be treated. And go into it that way. What she was doing was not going to be effective because of course Kyle's gonna be on the defense with that.

Lori (21:39.388)
apologize, Troy.

We Wine Whenever (21:39.935)
Right, right.

We Wine Whenever (21:52.662)
Right.

Lori (21:58.834)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (21:58.89)
Right, right.

So then that's pretty much over. And then we cut to Garcelle's house. I think they all, they all took...

Kelli (22:08.907)
Why did they pregame at Kyle's? Like I understand a meeting place, but she had a big spread there. They're going to Garcell's for a party.

Lori (22:11.718)
Yeah, we'll talk about that.

Lori (22:18.48)
Yeah, I thought I was taught the same thing to myself. Like, what's up with that?

We Wine Whenever (22:20.994)
Well, it was a two hour, I think it's a two hour drive though.

Kelli (22:21.133)
These rich people, just don't know what the fuck to do with their money.

Okay, so they needed a little snacky poo. I mean, I would appreciate a snacky poo before a two hour drive.

We Wine Whenever (22:31.516)
Yeah, I think it's a two hour drive.

Kelli (22:34.121)
Okay. All right.

Lori (22:34.546)
So Sutton was really rude though. Really rude to Dorit. Like, I know Dorit is long-winded, I get it, but again, like learn the art of conversation, Sutton. There's ways to say what you need to say. There's ways to make things happen. There's ways to move things along without being a dick.

We Wine Whenever (22:37.305)
my god, su-

Kelli (22:39.425)
No rude.

We Wine Whenever (23:00.522)
Yeah. So what, so what happens is all the ladies get there and Dorit gets there and she starts saying that, you know, she's like, she's had a day. So Dorit gets there and she says that, Jagger asked her if daddy and her got divorced. And she says, no, sweetie. He said, did you post something on Instagram? And then she said, well, sometimes people who are married need time apart.

And then Jagger asked, if you and daddy are always going to be best friends. And those are hard, hard words to hear, right? And she's like, well, I sure hope so. And then that's when Sutton interrupts and says, speaking of best friends, Gorsel messaged me and she wants us to put, you know, everything aside and get along. We need to get going because it takes quite a while to get to her place. And Dorit said, I was, before I was rudely interrupted, says, come on, let's go.

Kelli (23:37.506)
Yeah.

Lori (23:37.554)
Boom.

Kelli (23:59.147)
Yeah, like she was not giving her. Now, we may have only seen Dorit talk for five minutes. Dorit clearly could have been going on for 60 minutes and we're just not seeing that. So I understand it, but.

We Wine Whenever (23:59.881)
It's like, come on.

Lori (24:11.898)
Right. But that's really besides the point, because like I said, learn the art of conversation. There are ways.

Kelli (24:16.299)
Yes.

Yes. Be like, you know what she could have said? Dorit, listen, Sutton, if you're listening, I mean, we really have some good advice for you. She could have said, Dorit, I understand that you're upset. Maybe, why don't we just get in the Sprinter van so we can get on the road and we can continue the conversation in the van.

Lori (24:35.002)
and then you could finish telling us about it.

Right. That's all. But I'm just saying, it's very simple. just, there's no need for it besides, you wanna look like a dick on TV? I don't know. I don't get it. I don't get it.

We Wine Whenever (24:39.39)
Right. Yeah.

Kelli (24:50.389)
Yeah, yeah. I mean, the worst thing ever was when she said, you know, she's had a bad day too, the day after Dorit's house. I mean, that was, I mean, I don't know how you come back from that. She did, but I don't know how you do it.

We Wine Whenever (24:59.183)
my gosh, that was the worst.

We Wine Whenever (25:07.912)
I know, I know. mean, Dorit even handled it very well considering, and she just says like, you're a strange pumpkin sometimes. And it's true. I mean.

Lori (25:16.304)
Yeah, it's odd.

Kelli (25:18.957)
I mean, at least everybody else was on Dorit's side. Like, she's pretty fucked up. I mean, they went along with it, but they were like, that's fucked up.

We Wine Whenever (25:22.943)
Yeah.

Lori (25:25.532)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (25:25.776)
Yeah, I mean, it definitely was. It definitely was. at before they get there, we see that Garcels got an event planner there and a bartender. And like, I love that these women have these event planners for, for, you know, people coming over to their house. Right? I do too.

Lori (25:45.18)
Yeah, I love it. And it was absolutely gorgeous.

We Wine Whenever (25:52.082)
Her house is gorgeous, but that beach setup, the beach.

Kelli (25:53.495)
Her house is gorgeous.

Lori (25:54.512)
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about, the beach setup. Now, I will say this about the beach setup. I have one thing I got to say. Two things. First thing is, you could have gotten the furniture, I know it's on sand, but it looked all wonky, not leveled out. You could have, if you go to the beach and you put your chair in the sand, got to shimmy it you got to, it was just all...

We Wine Whenever (26:01.888)
Alright.

Lori (26:24.358)
And then roam the beach a little bit and make sure there's no nothing nasty. You should have found the dead bird beforehand.

Kelli (26:31.277)
How funny was the dead bird though? Just because of what happened on New York. Like here they are in fucking Malibu and there's a dead bird. Ubu, what are you gonna say about that? You gonna tell them not to go into the Pacific Ocean? No, you're not.

We Wine Whenever (26:33.503)
dead bird was great. How are you gonna find a dead bird? I know.

Lori (26:41.052)
And there's a dead bird. Right.

We Wine Whenever (26:46.879)
It's funny. I thought it was funny. It's hysterical. Before that happens, when they arrive, Garcelle has comfy loungewear for each of the ladies to wear.

Kelli (26:50.711)
So funny.

Kelli (27:00.043)
I was thinking about this, I want to do a PJ Day on the beach.

We Wine Whenever (27:04.681)
no. Why?

Kelli (27:05.761)
No, I thought it looked fantastic. Put your PJs on and go sit on the beach.

Lori (27:09.737)
well listen, do you know that that's Garcelle's line?

Kelli (27:14.733)
interesting.

Lori (27:16.89)
of loungewear, yes.

Kelli (27:18.979)
I'll check that out. I love Garcelle's style.

We Wine Whenever (27:23.008)
Well, I do a read and her confessional said, you know, she didn't, she just spent hours curating her outfit to put on some pajamas, but I'm going to be.

Lori (27:30.834)
Stop it! was black pants and a white shirt. What are you talking about? yeah, I mean, it's not like some big involved thing.

We Wine Whenever (27:34.513)
I'm going to be a good, yeah.

Kelli (27:34.802)
Dory, I know. So... Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (27:40.774)
I'm gonna be a good sport about it though. She did it. She just said it in her confessional. She didn't say it there. It was just in her confessional. But then, Gorsel sees this Dolce & Gabbana box and she's like, Oh, what is this? Jennifer says it's for you. And she opened it and it was a Dolce & Gabbana blue twal, blue and white twal toaster that matched her outfit.

Kelli (27:43.831)
Yeah

Lori (27:44.816)
Yeah, I know.

Kelli (28:05.303)
So cute.

We Wine Whenever (28:06.207)
I mean, what are the chances that she happened to be wearing that outfit when she's getting that?

Kelli (28:11.533)
I'm sure they had a conversation prior to this scene.

We Wine Whenever (28:15.133)
don't know, she seems surprised by that toaster.

Lori (28:18.396)
You know how much that toaster was? 700 L.

Kelli (28:19.041)
She's actress.

We Wine Whenever (28:20.585)
How much was it? yeah, yeah, it did say that. It was $700, that's right.

Kelli (28:22.445)
$700

Did anybody catch the ocean spray grapefruit juice she had there for satin?

We Wine Whenever (28:31.654)
I did not.

Lori (28:32.191)
getting the product placement.

Kelli (28:32.673)
There was a bottle of ocean spray sitting there. Well, and Sutton goes nowhere without her ocean spray grapefruit. So mix with her vodka.

Lori (28:38.642)
Yes, right, right, right.

We Wine Whenever (28:39.322)
Right, right, right. But when the, the toasters revealed Erica standing there clapping and she's like, I don't know why I'm clapping, but it was so funny. She's like, like nothing Jennifer's can do now will surprise me. Like she shows up, like I didn't even know Dolce & Gabbana made toasters. Did you?

Kelli (28:47.68)
You

Lori (28:50.93)
clapping for the toaster.

Kelli (28:51.437)
I'm here for it!

Lori (29:03.442)
Well, no, but I was kind of shocked that no one else brought Garcella a housewarming gift. I mean, how'd go to somebody's house for the first time? And don't bring anything. I was like, you bunch of low class bitches, what are you doing?

Kelli (29:03.756)
No.

We Wine Whenever (29:12.655)
I 100 % agree with that.

Kelli (29:14.433)
totally agree.

Kelli (29:20.407)
Totally agree.

We Wine Whenever (29:20.442)
I completely agree about that.

Lori (29:22.194)
was like, what's up with that?

Kelli (29:25.269)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (29:26.054)
Yeah, no, I completely agree about that.

Lori (29:32.73)
Now, know, Sutton said on the after show that she did not feel bad for interrupting Dorit's story. That could have just been told at Garcels.

Kelli (29:45.165)
She was probably going on for a very long time.

We Wine Whenever (29:50.256)
No, but still, she shouldn't have interrupted it.

Kelli (29:52.043)
I know, I know, I just, I feel like, I, again, I'm not here to defend Sutton, but.

We Wine Whenever (29:59.666)
mean she doubled down on it on the after show. Yeah, come on. Admit that it was bad timing.

Lori (30:02.246)
That's what I'm saying. Come on, Mike.

Kelli (30:03.553)
Yeah.

Kelli (30:07.733)
Yeah, do something.

We Wine Whenever (30:11.048)
They take the golf carts to get to the beach. And like we said, when they get there, the beach set up is again, beautiful. The flowers, the tables, the chairs, they had blankets and towels and then they had comfy chairs and then they had tables and dinnerware chairs and it was beautiful. They had a bar and a bartender. I mean, it was, yeah.

Lori (30:18.63)
Yeah.

Kelli (30:19.053)
They had blankets for everyone.

Kelli (30:32.673)
Yeah, it was.

Mm-hmm.

Lori (30:37.35)
Very hot bartender, very hot bartender.

Kelli (30:39.649)
Yes. Yes. See, this is what you get in Beverly Hills because everybody's trying to get into the business. So you get the best looking people just doing this, you know, the, you know, yeah, all the regular stuff the rest of us assholes are doing for ourselves.

We Wine Whenever (30:40.723)
Yes. So Kyle goes, yes.

Lori (30:52.53)
All the medial tasks.

Lori (30:58.406)
Mm-hmm. You just get the hot version.

We Wine Whenever (30:59.954)
Yeah, I think we need to take a trip. Yeah, I would like to go to California and go to little Beverly Hills, Malibu. I think we should take a trip. Go visit some of these places. I mean, we'll do it with our budget. So yeah, we'll just take our rental car to the beach and bring our own chairs and towel, but still we'll do it, right? Let's just do it.

Kelli (31:02.123)
We need to take a trip.

Kelli (31:10.302)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (31:16.61)
Yeah.

Lori (31:23.225)
Right.

Kelli (31:23.305)
You

Yeah, we'll figure it out. We'll figure it out.

We Wine Whenever (31:28.986)
I mean, we don't have flowers at the beach, but maybe we could stop at Whole Foods. We can stop at Whole Foods and get some flowers. There you go. Stop at Trader Joe's and get some flowers on the way and put them in a basket. We'll get to get a basket too. Make our own little picnic on the beach. my God, Goodwill. I want to go to Goodwill in Beverly Hills because they probably have some good stuff. That's what we,

Lori (31:31.302)
Now, I'll fly.

Kelli (31:33.773)
Trader Joe's is beautiful flowers.

Lori (31:36.38)
Beautiful flowers, Trader Joe's.

Lori (31:42.588)
There you go. We'll go to Goodwill, get the basket.

Kelli (31:47.277)
We're really doing it our way.

Lori (31:48.23)
I'm

Lori (31:52.278)
yeah, making the good stuff. But then you got to schlep, then you got to schlep it all the way back or mail it and then, but forget it. Then you don't even get a bargain because you got to pay for the shipping.

Kelli (31:54.497)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (31:56.325)
That's what we gotta do. Do they even have a goodwill?

Kelli (31:59.137)
I'm sure they do.

We Wine Whenever (32:06.161)
no, I'll get it home. Don't you worry. I know a thing it's called pirate ship. Yeah. Yeah. I'll get it home. Yeah. Yeah. I'll teach you about that. Okay. So then Kyle goes up to Dorit while she's at the bar and says, you know, can we go have a little talk? And I'm glad that, you know, they, they go and sit down and talk and Dorit starts. And she said like, you know, do you want to start? But Kyle's like,

She didn't really answer. So to read starts and she said, first and foremost, do you consider us friends? And Kyle says, yes. Do you want to salvage salvage our friendship? And Kyle says, yes, I do. She says, do you? And to read says very much. I want to salvage it. When you wrote PK and you said, you know, I never repeat when you wrote that you never repeated anything that you said. know.

that you were making him feel safe with you, but I know that that's not true. Like, know that Dorit says, it's okay. I know that.

He could talk to you and wouldn't repeat it. It's okay. Kyle says, hold on. That's my way of saying I'm trustworthy person and I don't repeat things. says, are you my friend? And your loyalty is with me or with him? Well, Kyle says, well, obviously it's with you. But Dorit was saying that I know what you were saying to him, that you're not going to repeat things to Dorit.

Kelli (33:39.937)
Yeah, that's how Dory's reading it. Because of what she said, that she knows that PK and Kyle would have conversations about her at Kyle's house, because PK would come home and tell her, but Kyle doesn't know that, so she's not fessing up to it.

We Wine Whenever (33:47.216)
Right.

Lori (33:48.836)
until.

We Wine Whenever (33:50.084)
Right, right. And she said, I know that that's, but I'm okay with it. I just want to know like, are you going to pick a side? Like, and is it going to be me? Because if, if you're going to pick a side and it's going to be me, then you know, we can move forward with this. And you know, they both can, you know, they both want to, they both want to be in a good place. They both want to forgive. They want to move on.

Lori (33:51.42)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (34:16.506)
Because honestly, how much longer can we talk about these text messages?

Kelli (34:20.297)
my gosh, this is ridiculous.

We Wine Whenever (34:22.636)
Right. Right.

Lori (34:22.798)
No longer. But did you see now that, they're, Dorit and PK's son is in the hospital. And Kyle said that she sent them, she sent Dorit a text and then she sent a separate text to PK. What, just what are you doing? Send it, send a group text to PK and Dorit, both at the same time, thinking of, you know,

Kelli (34:29.995)
No!

We Wine Whenever (34:30.021)
Again?

Lori (34:52.294)
Jagger, whatever, blah blah blah blah blah. What are you doing? What are you doing?

Kelli (34:56.481)
Yeah, because they're clearly together. It's not like either one of them are gonna leave the, I mean, I know they have their daughter, but you know, they're gonna, I mean, I agree with you. At this point, after all this nonsense about a fucking text message, just send a group text to the both of them and be like, I'm thinking of you, please let me know if you need anything. That's it.

Lori (35:01.744)
Right, what I'm saying is, yeah, after all that, right, right, right, if anybody needs anything, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (35:02.968)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (35:17.051)
But wait a second, how do you know that she sent separate texts?

Lori (35:20.848)
Because I think Kyle put out a social media post and she said, yep, I did it. I sent him a separate text.

We Wine Whenever (35:29.531)
And he's in the hospital now because he was in the hospital before.

Lori (35:34.468)
I don't know. I just saw a social media post and Kyle said, and Kyle said, or I saw something on social media and I saw Kyle saying that yes, she did it. She sent him a separate text.

Kelli (35:37.645)
I didn't even know he was in the hospital.

Kelli (35:48.405)
And why would she call attention to it? You know what I mean?

Lori (35:50.684)
I, it's weird. I don't know. It's bizarro.

I don't know.

We Wine Whenever (35:57.563)
That is weird. did not PK and Doris. did. No, because I remember at Christmas time.

Lori (36:00.722)
You didn't see that.

Kelli (36:09.965)
It's probably again.

We Wine Whenever (36:11.919)
That's what I'm saying. Like that's

Lori (36:13.362)
Yeah, I think it's again.

Kelli (36:16.13)
What happened?

Lori (36:17.234)
I don't know. I didn't get that far into it. Just something I came across and I was like, oh, that's interesting.

So I don't know.

But it was fun when they were on the beach and all those stupid balloons wouldn't fly. That was fun. That was cute. What?

Kelli (36:35.208)
my gosh. my gosh.

We Wine Whenever (36:36.495)
Wait a second. everything I'm seeing is that was from November. That was back in November.

Kelli (36:44.759)
Well, maybe she's getting heat for sending two separate texts and now she's commenting on it. That was so funny with those. They are not easy to set off on a calm day. It was clearly very windy. The beach, not an ideal place to do that. We've done it for my nephew Kyle from the beach because he was this big surfer and that's what we do for him.

Lori (36:50.67)
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how it came to this.

We Wine Whenever (36:54.969)
Yeah. my God, those lanterns.

Lori (37:04.601)
Very one.

Kelli (37:14.079)
It's not easy and especially if it's particularly windy that day, which it seemed to be.

We Wine Whenever (37:22.264)
Well, when Kyle and Dorit were having that conversation at the same time, Bose is telling Garcelle what Dorit said about, you know, Jagger and Garcelle's like, you know, it's hard because she remembers when she was first divorced and she was putting Jax to bed and he said, you know, went on with you, I miss dad and went on with dad, I miss you. So she could kind of relate to that. And then when they come back to the table, this is what I wrote down, it is so windy on the beach, like it's ridiculous how windy it is.

Lori (37:41.426)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (37:49.869)
They're all wrapped up in blankets.

We Wine Whenever (37:51.514)
They're all covered up into, I thought they were towels, but maybe they were blankets. And then Garcelle says, let's play a few games.

Lori (38:00.05)
Oh yes, this stupid playing game, so stupid. No! Haven't we established this already?

Kelli (38:03.041)
Housewives should not play games. Stop. Yes, a million times.

We Wine Whenever (38:09.507)
And then it was, what would you do for a million dollars? For a million dollars. Right, right. And then Bo says, what if it was $20 million? of I'll done it for less. Erica says, where do we sign up? Bo says, what if it was your man? Erica says, yeah, no, I want the money.

Lori (38:14.438)
Yeah, how far would you go for a million dollars? What's the worst thing you would do?

Kelli (38:18.027)
and they're all like, that's too low.

Lori (38:21.106)
20 million.

Lori (38:29.703)
funny.

We Wine Whenever (38:38.338)
And then Dorit says, Erica's never been in love. And Erica's said that, but Erica has said that.

Kelli (38:41.665)
Yeah, that was... I know, it was still just a bold thing to hear, I thought. And that's sad for her.

We Wine Whenever (38:48.694)
Yeah, it's very sad. That's what I'm saying. It's very sad. And Erica has said that, like she's never been in love. And it explains a lot, to be quite honest with you, it explains a lot. And then, I don't know how this came up, then they asked Jennifer and she says that she's in love with her man and she was in love with her husband.

Lori (38:50.556)
That is sad, very sad.

Kelli (38:59.017)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (39:10.647)
She said very nice things about her ex-husband. Yeah, he was her ex, right? I know he has passed since, but yeah, she said very nice things about him.

We Wine Whenever (39:12.822)
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he was her ex, yeah.

Yeah, it was funny though. they're, you know, they're doing, they're trying to do their wishes in the lantern and Kyle's trying to get the paper lantern and she's on the ground. And they're like, no, the wishes are going away. And then they see the dead bird and then they just all start. It was just, yeah, they just start running off the beach. I mean, it was hysterical. I thought it was hysterical.

Lori (39:33.808)
Then they pee their pants.

Lori (39:40.23)
It was nice to see them doing something other than arguing.

We Wine Whenever (39:44.012)
Yes. And it was nice to Kyle and Dorit have some resolution and agree to move forward. I'm always happy to see that. I don't know if you saw online, but another housewife related situation is, know, ASAP Rocky is on trial right now and Rihanna is there. And the first witness was Erica Jane's son, the police officer.

Kelli (39:44.095)
Yeah, exactly.

Lori (39:50.066)
Have a nice

We Wine Whenever (40:10.563)
who I guess was there and arrested him. I guess he was the first one on scene.

Lori (40:15.538)
Kelli (40:15.777)
Yeah, I don't even know what the guy got arrested for, but yes, I saw that Erica's son. it's a shooting.

We Wine Whenever (40:18.689)
It was shooting. He shot. Yeah. Yeah. I thought, wow, that's interesting.

Kelli (40:25.707)
I know when people are like somebody who wanted to stay out of the media, he's doing his job. He has to appear. If there's a subpoena for his testimony, he has to be there. People are stupid.

Lori (40:30.608)
job.

We Wine Whenever (40:30.889)
Exactly. Exactly.

Lori (40:38.514)
They are stupid.

We Wine Whenever (40:38.701)
They re- yeah, they really are stupid.

So other Housewife news. What's going on in the OC, Kelly?

Kelli (40:48.407)
Gretchen Rossi's coming back, we're very excited. I'm excited. I wanna see the interaction between her and Heather DeBrow. I don't really care about the interaction between her and Tamara because quite honestly, I think Gretchen can eat Tamara up.

We Wine Whenever (41:03.117)
I'd like to see that. That is what I would like to see. Yeah.

Kelli (41:04.417)
Yeah, and I think we will. I'm just curious to see, I'm curious to see if Heather and Tamra and who else was it? I feel like it was Heather, Tamra, kind of Emily had this trio thing going and I'm not here for Emily. You're too smart. You're too smart of a girl for that. But I'm curious to see where Heather and Tamra are going back into the season with Gretchen coming back.

We Wine Whenever (41:16.351)
Emily? Yeah, I mean...

Kelli (41:30.359)
How funny though, I wonder if she's coming back as a friend like Alexis. she's coming back. I kind of wish they would give her a damn orange though.

We Wine Whenever (41:33.473)
Yes, yes, she is coming back as a friend. It is a friend.

Well, they're probably just trying her out. See how it goes.

You know? I think it's a good way. I think it's a good way to introduce her back in.

Kelli (41:45.835)
Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (41:46.822)
We shall see.

Kelli (41:51.103)
Yeah, Melissa's podcast was good with Dollo. You and I both listened to that.

We Wine Whenever (41:55.224)
yes. I love Dolores. Every time I hear her talk, I love her even more. She is so real. She talks about everything. She was talking about her plastic surgeries. She was talking about her heart condition, her AFib. She was talking about her son, Frankie. Yeah. It's funny because Melissa asked her like,

Kelli (42:19.553)
That was interesting.

We Wine Whenever (42:24.586)
how are you doing? How are the kids doing? And it's, don't know if you realize this, but Dolores is like, my gosh, Melissa, I watch your kids. I remember this time in my life. I was so busy when my kids were your kids age. They're in sports. Every time they leave the house, you're worried. Are they going to a party? One wrong decision can ruin their whole life. And I'm like, wait a second, Melissa asked her the question and now she's like, and I thought,

Kelli (42:48.639)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (42:49.45)
I listen, it's she's a pro in every way. But then she goes on to say, I remember when Frankie when he was 16, he got arrested. And he was so afraid of me that he called Frank's sister, his aunt to pick him up from jail. And then a couple weeks later, Frank came over to pick up Frankie for school. And I thought, what is he doing coming over here to pick him up for school? He's probably got some, you know, mom around the corner that he's

Kelli (42:52.535)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (43:19.554)
banging. Yeah. And it turns out he was taking them to court and Frankie Jr. got to court and he passed out. And Dolores still doesn't know any of this. She knows nothing about it. Nobody has told her anything. And Frank waited for her, for Frank Jr. to be away at camp and finally told Dolores what happened because he knew how mad she was going to be. And I was like,

Kelli (43:20.013)
sleeping with.

We Wine Whenever (43:47.197)
she is gangster. I love her. so, I so love her.

Kelli (43:49.825)
Me too. I wish anybody was as scared of me as they are of Dolores. Nobody's that scared of me.

We Wine Whenever (43:55.165)
I know. I know. And her kids are awesome. She's got such good kids. She's like, you know what? They call me now all the time because you know, Melissa's like, then Melissa's saying, my gosh, I, you know, we have the kind of the same situation and, but for the big things, they're more afraid of Joe than they are of me, but I micromanage the day to day. And it just was good hearing them talk about what it's like just being a mom and living in New Jersey and

having kids that you're raising.

Kelli (44:24.993)
Being normal and being honest about what we all go through. Like we're there, like we're in that time right now with 17 year olds. Like it's not easy, man.

We Wine Whenever (44:28.351)
Right.

Lori (44:28.828)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (44:32.63)
Yeah.

No, it is not easy. It's not. And you just have to let them, you know, do the right thing. But you know, kids are dumb. They make stupid mistakes. And sometimes it's not even them. It's the people that they're with do the stupid things and then they get wrapped up in it. We know all about that too.

Lori (44:51.794)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (44:51.895)
Well, yeah, you gotta hope your kids surround yourself, surround themselves with good people, And they are good people, they just, yeah, I mean, yeah, exactly. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (44:57.025)
Yeah, but even if they are good people, they make stupid, right. They make stupid mistakes because they're kids. They're impulsive. They're like, I can do this. What does it matter? Like they just don't, they don't listen. Their brains are not fully developed yet. So yeah, that was a great podcast. And, and Melissa said that her Valentine's day sprinkle cookies are available.

Lori (45:03.74)
Yeah.

Kelli (45:06.953)
Right. They're invincible. Right.

Lori (45:08.678)
They don't get it.

Kelli (45:12.94)
now.

Lori (45:13.746)
We keep trying to tell you this, children.

Kelli (45:19.799)
That was a good podcast.

We Wine Whenever (45:27.39)
So anyone who didn't get them the first time around, you can get them.

Lori (45:31.196)
Try them out, they were good.

Kelli (45:32.265)
Our review is gonna be posted when, Laura Sunday? Yep, big, big sprinkle cookie review from the We Wine Whenever Girls.

Lori (45:34.972)
Sunday, yes.

We Wine Whenever (45:40.714)
Yeah, I'll give you a hint we loved him.

Kelli (45:42.497)
We did love them.

Lori (45:42.608)
Yeah, we had wine and cookies and it was good.

Kelli (45:46.303)
Yeah, they are not crumbly. They are super soft, which is how a sprinkle cookie should be.

We Wine Whenever (45:46.388)
Yes, yes.

Yes.

Lori (45:52.272)
Yum yum.

We Wine Whenever (45:53.34)
another big Bravo news. So last weekend in New York, I'm not sure if was Friday or Saturday, but a city winery, they were doing a fundraiser. I didn't realize this when I was sending you all this information. They were doing a fundraiser for the fires in California and there was all these like Bravo liberties and people there and Joe Gorgor was there doing comedy and Kyle Cook was there and a bunch of other comedians were there. And

Kelli (46:08.555)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (46:21.622)
Andrea Lopez, the comedian who does The Housewives, specifically Teresa, well, she went up on stage with Melissa's sprinkle cookies as the Teresa persona and the crowd was loving it and she was, you know, handing out sprinkle cookies, but it was like all over social media, like, you know, Melissa can't stop talking about her sister. Why do they have to keep mentioning her? Listen.

Kelli (46:27.489)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (46:50.445)
I gotta be honest with you, I wish they didn't have her on and I'll tell you why. Melissa doesn't talk about her sister-in-law. Joe does not talk about his sister. Teresa cannot keep their names out of her mouth. She just was on another podcast, I don't even know who it was, but she was saying that at some point her brother and she had a private conversation and he told her that if the show ends, this is gonna be really bad for my marriage.

We Wine Whenever (46:57.608)
Now.

you

Kelli (47:19.425)
Basically saying that if the show ended, Melissa would leave him. Clearly that's not true. Teresa is obviously making that up. She cannot stop talking about them. All she's doing is talking about them. And now I'm starting to think she's just doing it to get a reaction out of them. But I wish they didn't have that. Listen, I think that that woman is very talented, but I wish that they didn't do that because it is giving the tree stumps the opportunity to say that Melissa can't.

Lori (47:45.426)
ammo

Kelli (47:49.129)
stop talking about Teresa. But she doesn't, I listen to her podcast all the time, she does not talk about Teresa. She talks about the show and what's going on on the show, but that's her life, people. That's her fucking life. Like, I kind of wish they didn't do it.

We Wine Whenever (47:55.292)
No, she does not.

We Wine Whenever (47:59.721)
Right.

Lori (48:01.37)
Right. I saw Teresa's doing a lipstick line.

Kelli (48:07.745)
Yeah, apparently. And I am a lipstick whore and you couldn't pay me to wear her lipstick.

Lori (48:09.062)
Yeah, I have... Yeah. Lips by Teresa. And she said, this collection is so special to me as each lip shade celebrates the love, romance, and commitment that I share with my husband, my twin flame. I was like, boy, PR didn't write that. You definitely wrote that.

Kelli (48:36.991)
Yeah, yeah, she needs PR.

Lori (48:41.136)
I just thought that was pretty funny.

Kelli (48:43.565)
cringy. as in funny you mean cringy?

Lori (48:44.562)
Yeah, a little crunchy. All right, girls.

We Wine Whenever (48:48.337)
No, funny ha ha. Funny ha ha.

Kelli (48:51.063)
Like get it, get it.

Kelli (48:56.087)
That's funny.

We Wine Whenever (48:57.237)
That is funny. All right, until next time. by the way, if our listeners could do us a favor, please, and give us a five-star review on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to us, that would really help us. That's it. Thank you. Bye.

Lori (49:09.06)
Yes, please, That would be lovely. All right. Good night.

Kelli (49:09.165)
Thank you.

Kelli (49:12.813)
Good night.