RHOSLC- Reunion Part 1-Andy’s Safe Word: Navigating the Reunion Drama

RHOSLC- Reunion Part 1-Andy’s Safe Word: Navigating the Reunion Drama
The reunion episode explores unresolved tensions, dramatic confrontations, and some emotional breakthroughs. Angie enters with bold energy, sparking conversations about past accusations, shifting friendships, and social media drama. Viewer questions reveal controversies, including accusations about fake jewelry purchases, alleged lip filler sponsors, and deeply personal stories about Bronwyn’s family.

Bronwyn reflects on her strained friendship with Lisa, admitting they were more social acquaintances than true confidantes. A heated exchange over Bronwyn’s miscarriage and its fallout dominates the discussion, with Lisa becoming emotional over the accusations and their impact. The cast struggles to find common ground, leaving key relationships fractured.

Lighter moments include a montage of Bronwyn’s iconic fashion choices, discussions about husbands’ involvement on the show, and the ongoing tension over Heather’s perceived “mean girl” energy this season. The reunion balances dramatic revelations with glimpses of humor, as Andy guides the group through their conflicts and apologies. The segment closes with a nod to Julia Fox's bold reunion fashion and her take on RHONY drama.

Takeaways

• The dresses worn at the reunion were a major talking point.
• Heather's long red dress was a standout for its elegance.
• Lisa's dress was criticized for not being suitable for sitting.
• Bronwyn's couture dress had a notable history from the Met Gala.
• Mary's outfit was described as matronly and not well-received.
• Brittany's dress was seen as fitting for her personality.
• Meredith Marks received praise for her overall look at the reunion.
• The color palette of the dresses was appreciated by the hosts.
• Angie's dress was favored for its design and accessories.
• Lipstick choices were also a point of discussion, with some cast members standing out. Whitney clarified that the Alibaba pictures were stock photos.
• The confusion around Whitney's stock photos highlights misunderstandings in the cast.
• Friendship dynamics are complicated, especially between Heather, Lisa, and Angie.
• Cybersecurity issues were raised regarding Lisa's accusations.
• Angie's Twitter feud with Lisa escalated tensions among the cast.
• Bronwyn's jewelry controversy revealed deeper issues of trust and friendship.
• Bronwyn realized that her friendship with Lisa was not as strong as she thought.
• The hosts believe Lisa's actions were manipulative and self-serving.
• The conversation reflects on how reality TV can distort perceptions of friendship.
• The hosts agree that Heather's invitation to Bronwyn was genuine, not a ploy. Heather's confidence has evolved over the seasons.
• Viewer questions can sometimes be harsh and unnecessary.
• Body image issues should not overshadow personal growth.
• Family dynamics can complicate public narratives.
• Narcissism can cloud judgment in relationships.
• Defending friends can lead to public backlash.
• Miscommunication can escalate family controversies.
• Reality TV often blurs the lines of truth.
• Self-deprecating humor can stem from anxiety.
• Commercials can reflect personal branding efforts.

Transcript

We Wine Whenever (00:00.078)
Done.

Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever. I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:07.451)
I'm Kelly.

We Wine Whenever (00:09.976)
We are talking about Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. It is the reunion part one. And I thought we would start out discussing the dresses. So I have all the dresses. First one we have up is Heather's. If you could see it over my shoulder.

Lori (00:32.37)
Nope, can't see it. At least I can. No, I can't see it.

Kelli (00:33.457)
We can't see it. No, can you move the camera? I mean, then we're not gonna see you, I'm sorry. Wait, that's good. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (00:35.019)
You can't? no.

We Wine Whenever (00:42.318)
Can you see? Okay, okay, good. So, okay, so it's Heather. Can you see it?

Lori (00:43.268)
Now we can see it. we can see it. Good, good, It's gone.

It's drifting, you had to turn a little bit, little bit more.

Kelli (00:52.933)
Yeah. Like when you start talking, I think the camera re-centers on you. So maybe like push it over more than you think you need to.

Lori (00:58.3)
Yeah. Yeah. That's a thing.

Lori (01:06.706)
Listen, this is our world of technical difficulties. This is what happens. I can see she's wearing a long red dress. Yeah. Yeah. Very pretty.

Kelli (01:09.009)
That's right.

We Wine Whenever (01:09.067)
Okay.

Well, can you see she's wearing the long red dress? Okay. Very, yes. Okay. So Heather, her dress is by Maria Lucia Hoan. I don't know if I pronounced that right. Her shoes, which you cannot see, but they're Christian Louboutin and her jewelry is Harper jewelry.

Kelli (01:15.879)
Strapless slit up the Yeah, it looks good. He looks good

Lori (01:27.976)
Yes, whatever.

We Wine Whenever (01:39.006)
Next one is Lisa Barlow. Her dress is the Danela gown by Harvey Legere. She's wearing a bijou ankle strap metallic leather stiletto by Giavito Rossi. Yeah.

Kelli (01:44.263)
You could have done better.

Kelli (01:57.447)
I do like the shoes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Lori (01:57.564)
I did like her shoes. I did like her shoes. And her dress is much prettier in person than it showed in her photographs. But the problem with her dress is like, it's a pretty dress when you're standing up, but when you're sitting down, like the fringes just get all fucked up and it just like, it's not a sitting dress and you're sitting mostly.

Kelli (02:11.739)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (02:11.864)
Right.

Kelli (02:14.885)
Yes. Yes.

We Wine Whenever (02:14.91)
Yes, it's not a sitting dress.

We Wine Whenever (02:19.861)
Yes. Next is Bronwyn. Her dress is a Carolina Herrera couture and it was first worn by Carly Kloss for the 2021 Met Gala and Bronwyn had it tailored down for her so she bought it. It is not a loan. And her shoes are Valentino.

Kelli (02:45.553)
Her dress reminds me, I'll have to find a picture. When Terry got married, we wore bridesmaids dresses that were probably, so they were short. It was like a teal color and they were short, probably the same length as Bronwyn's dress. And then it had a long skirt that wrapped around it. So in the church, we had, it looked like we were wearing long gowns.

Lori (03:08.34)
Oh, I didn't.

Lori (03:12.798)
and then just took it off.

Kelli (03:12.975)
And then when we got to the reception, we took it off. I have to find a picture. They were really awesome. And like nobody had had them like, like nobody had them yet. It was really cool. That's what her dress reminded me of.

Lori (03:21.236)
Cool.

She really likes that big shoulder. I think that it's like an insecurity. I think it's like her armor. A lot of times her.

We Wine Whenever (03:27.232)
Big shoulder.

Kelli (03:37.937)
Well, she's a very small, petite girl, right? Like, I would never choose that because I'm broad up top.

We Wine Whenever (03:39.469)
She's tiny. Yes, yeah, she's tiny.

Lori (03:41.598)
I think it's like an armor.

Lori (03:46.224)
Yeah, but I think it's like her armor.

We Wine Whenever (03:48.96)
be. Could be. Okay, the next one is Mary. Hers is Jean-Louis, wait, Jean-Louis Sabaji. I don't know, I never heard of that. I don't, I don't love that one. I really don't.

Kelli (03:50.311)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (04:01.5)
Okay.

Lori (04:05.562)
Nah, I'm not a fan. It's very merry.

Kelli (04:08.615)
It's very matronly.

Lori (04:10.054)
It's very Mary, like, with the big jewelry thing on the top, you know, like she likes that kind of, she likes that look.

We Wine Whenever (04:10.224)
It is very matronly.

Kelli (04:14.117)
Yeah, big statement, necklace, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (04:17.718)
That necklace looked horrible when she was sitting down.

Kelli (04:21.445)
Yeah, it looked like it was choking her.

Lori (04:21.628)
Yeah, yes. Yeah, it's not a good luck. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (04:23.377)
Yes, yes. And her shoes are Kristen Louboutin also.

Kelli (04:28.441)
They all got the red bottoms.

We Wine Whenever (04:30.7)
Here we have Brittany Bateman.

Lori (04:34.066)
Her Macy's dress, Macy's prom dress.

Kelli (04:35.505)
This is just so fitting for Britney. I don't know why. I don't even want to try to explain it. It is so Britney.

Lori (04:38.706)
Yes, is. It is. It is so perfectly her. Yes, absolutely. It is so brightening.

We Wine Whenever (04:46.22)
So her dress is by Halpern and her shoes are Gianni Binni, never heard of that. But supposedly her original look was an Oscar de la Renta? Now Angie had on, Angie had on.

Lori (05:00.284)
Well, supposedly.

Kelli (05:02.181)
note they said they showed up with the same dress and Angie won the that's what they said in the reunion

We Wine Whenever (05:05.247)
They really did? I mean, how can that be?

Lori (05:09.052)
That's what they did say. I thought there was some kind of bullshit too. Because like, come on, all the dresses. Come on, what's the odds that they would show up in the same? I think it was just some little bullshit thing for interest.

Kelli (05:15.109)
Yeah. Maybe.

We Wine Whenever (05:20.329)
in the same dress.

Kelli (05:21.765)
Right.

Kelli (05:25.743)
Especially since they're all wearing designers. Like, the designer knows who they're dressing and what they're dressing them for. So why would the designer give both of them the same dress?

Lori (05:29.203)
Come on.

We Wine Whenever (05:32.425)
Well, no, because they're not all couture. mean, they're off the rack. The only ones that was couture was Bronwyn's.

Kelli (05:43.078)
Okay.

We Wine Whenever (05:44.844)
well, I, I actually did not hate Britney's dress. I'll be quite honest with you. I didn't hate it.

Lori (05:49.812)
Read it in.

Kelli (05:50.865)
don't hate it, I just think it's very Britney.

Lori (05:53.396)
Just reminds me of like very 80s. Just remind me of like 80s. Like it just, it just, I'm with you, Kelly. Just for some reason fit her. And it just reminded me of Macy's like prom. I don't know if it just had something. There's something. Just, just.

We Wine Whenever (05:53.524)
Yeah, it's definitely Britney.

Kelli (05:56.411)
very eighties.

Kelli (06:06.725)
Yes. Yeah, like kind of like a prom. Yeah, like a Macy's prom dress. Which listen, I got one of my proms, I went to four proms, I got one of my prom dresses at Macy's. I'm not hating on it, I'm just saying.

Lori (06:17.266)
Yeah, it just reminded me of that.

Kelli (06:19.174)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (06:20.328)
Okay, next is Meredith Marks and she is wearing a Brooks Marks dress.

Kelli (06:27.289)
I think I've said it before, I'll say it again, this is the best Meredith has ever looked at a reunion.

Lori (06:33.78)
I'm telling you something, even her skin, her face, her hair, she looked awesome. was like, damn girl, like what are you doing? And her dress, I didn't like it in a photograph, but in person, I thought it was stunning. And I liked her dress, the best of all of them. thought it was the prettiest one. I really thought it was very pretty.

Kelli (06:41.381)
Yes, she did.

We Wine Whenever (06:52.947)
Really?

We Wine Whenever (06:58.388)
So.

Kelli (06:58.531)
I really like, really think she looks great. I mean, there's no feathers, there's no, you know, she's just had some, she's missed, she's missed the mark a couple of times.

We Wine Whenever (07:10.676)
Well, she can thank her son because he was her stylist and her designer.

Kelli (07:15.163)
Well, he did a good job.

Lori (07:17.14)
to the look of it.

We Wine Whenever (07:17.149)
And her jewelry is Meredith Mark's jewelry. And I don't know about the shoes. Maybe the shoes, it does say this, it says dress shoes and stylist is Brooks Mark. So they must be his shoes also. Yeah.

Lori (07:20.862)
Good girl.

Kelli (07:20.998)
Abde.

Kelli (07:30.799)
Nice.

Lori (07:30.8)
No, he did a good job.

We Wine Whenever (07:34.555)
Next we have a Whitney Rose.

Kelli (07:36.103)
I like hers the best.

Lori (07:39.444)
Yeah, I'm not taking ours.

We Wine Whenever (07:41.611)
I don't love this pose of hers, to be honest with you. Her dress is monot, M-O-N-O-T. I never heard of it. Her jewelry is prism and she also has...

Renee Cavalia shoes. Never heard of that either. I'm indifferent on her dress. I don't love it. I don't hate it.

Lori (08:05.193)
Okay.

Kelli (08:11.399)
I like hers and Angie's the best, I'll say that.

We Wine Whenever (08:15.477)
I like Angie's the best. Next is Angie's and hers is the Oscar de la Renta dress, Jimmy Choo shoes and her necklace is Swarovski.

Lori (08:16.678)
I did like Angie's.

Lori (08:27.25)
I did like her necklace.

We Wine Whenever (08:28.892)
Yeah, I like hers the best. So those are the looks for the reunion. It was fun going through them and seeing, you know, and I like the colors. I did like the color scheme too. Like they all look, you know, the purples and the reds and the maroons, like.

Kelli (08:32.06)
Yeah.

Kelli (08:45.455)
Yeah, it doesn't sound like it would go, but it did.

Lori (08:45.52)
It's pretty palette. Yeah, definitely pretty palette.

We Wine Whenever (08:48.965)
It did, it did actually. And here, there they are all together.

Lori (08:53.286)
Yeah, they look nice together.

Kelli (08:54.663)
So Angie's the only- well I guess Brittany did a little bit of pink. Purple, pink.

Lori (08:58.184)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (08:58.395)
Yeah, yeah, but they do look they do look good together.

Lori (09:02.054)
So I just wanted to bring something up. I want to know if anybody noticed this. In the very beginning, the very, very beginning of the show, they're showing some shots of like the set. Did anybody catch the Vita Tequila?

We Wine Whenever (09:04.115)
Okay.

We Wine Whenever (09:14.195)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (09:18.053)
No.

We Wine Whenever (09:18.917)
Where was it? I didn't see it.

Lori (09:20.356)
in a very, very, very beginning. I took a picture of it. I'm going to put it on the post. It was a couple of the bottles.

Kelli (09:25.499)
Was it just the bottle?

Kelli (09:30.279)
Cause she's probably drinking it while she's there. I mean, than New Jersey, think that most of them are allowed to drink.

Lori (09:33.328)
I don't know, but I was like, I don't know what kind of situation you got going on here that you could like, who's making the dough? Some dough here. what? Yeah, I was like, interesting.

Kelli (09:43.663)
Yeah, product placement.

We Wine Whenever (09:47.753)
I told you, she's a queen bee. She is a queen bee.

Kelli (09:50.534)
Yeah.

Lori (09:53.618)
Very interesting.

We Wine Whenever (09:54.631)
That is interesting. I don't know if you noticed when Angie came out, she said, from bench warmer, bench warming bitch to first chair.

Kelli (09:54.823)
That is interesting.

Lori (10:07.366)
Yeah, I did hear a say that's great. Yeah.

Kelli (10:07.587)
Yeah, I did hear her say that.

We Wine Whenever (10:09.189)
I was like, whoa.

Kelli (10:11.377)
Why does she have first chair?

We Wine Whenever (10:14.88)
Ummm...

Kelli (10:15.591)
I kind of feel like Brahman should have first chair.

Lori (10:19.56)
Mm-hmm. I don't know. Yeah, yeah. It would have been nice to give it to Mara. think that would have been nice. No? Probably no.

Kelli (10:20.817)
the way the season played out, or marry.

Kelli (10:26.533)
it would have been nice to give Mary the first taste.

We Wine Whenever (10:27.753)
don't think Mary, no, I don't think Mary, no, Mary, no, no, and not for these reasons. That's not a first chair seat. Like the people in the first chair are the ones that have the conflict. she's, no, but it ended with the finale with Angie and Lisa. So that's why they're sitting across from each other. Because if you think about it, so Andy says that he's sitting between,

Kelli (10:30.351)
I don't think Mary would want the first seat.

Kelli (10:40.783)
Right, so it feels to me like Brahman and Lisa had the most conflict.

Lori (10:49.859)
Mm, maybe, yeah, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (10:56.419)
Andy says he's sitting between Angie and Lisa and he's worried about his ears because those are the two with the biggest, the biggest conflicts that they're the loudest. Yeah. They pick the safe words.

Lori (11:00.884)
Should they?

Kelli (11:03.567)
yeah, and they pick safe words, yeah.

Lori (11:04.254)
I we can out of that.

Lori (11:09.604)
I like how Angie said, I'm to be good for the economy and keep my clothes and not return them. Is that like a at Lisa or is that a dig at Brittany? they're the dig at Brittany. Well, there was a thing when they were in Mexico with Whitney with the tag. I was like, look at her doing the double dig.

Kelli (11:23.377)
Britney.

We Wine Whenever (11:24.327)
It's a dig at Brittany.

Kelli (11:26.225)
Britney.

Kelli (11:31.397)
Whitney. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (11:32.794)
Yes.

Kelli (11:35.783)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's true. It was a double dig.

Lori (11:39.548)
Okay, so now we did the gowns. I want to do this. Lipstick review. I think that Bronwyn and Meredith had the best lipstick. Everybody else did just like this boring neutral. So watch it again and let me know your lipstick review.

Kelli (11:44.931)
say what now?

We Wine Whenever (11:48.731)
Okay.

Kelli (12:00.163)
Now I agree with you, Bromwyn looks great with a pop of color on her lips, but some people do look better with the nude, like Heather Gay. Like she needs a nude lip, and it's probably because she has such strong features on her face, but Bromwyn is so good with like a pop of color, and Lisa looks good with a pop of color on her lips too. And Whitney.

Lori (12:12.292)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (12:17.81)
Ace, right.

Lori (12:25.477)
And merit of this lipstick was banging. You have to look at it again.

Kelli (12:29.383)
All right, I'll have to pay attention to that. But some people, like Melissa Gorga, like she looks good in a nude lip, because she always plays up the eyes. You could only do one, you gotta play up the eye or play up the lip. But Brahman does both, and she pulls it off.

Lori (12:37.15)
Uh-uh.

Lori (12:40.904)
day.

Sometimes their eye makeup is funky. Sometimes it's like this weird eyeliner that's up here. It's just odd. Okay. I'm sorry. We got off track. I'm Look at Wendy's face. I love it.

Kelli (12:45.871)
It's a lot. It's like a peacock.

Kelli (12:50.619)
Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (12:58.912)
So Lisa's word was Bezos. I still don't know what Bezos is. Does anybody know what it is? Besides Jeff and that's with a Z. That's not even spelled. What is Bezos? I looked it up. I can't find anything. Well, you look it up and tell me what you find out. No, I Googled it when she had the Bezos party. I was like, what the heck is Bezos?

Kelli (13:06.469)
That's right.

Kelli (13:12.366)
can't? I thought I was going to be sleuth and look it up right now.

Kelli (13:21.607)
Spanish word that translates to kisses.

Lori (13:25.332)
for Valentine's Day. Remember, that was what the original thing was for Valentine's Day. Wasn't it for Valentine's Day? Yeah, because Brahman had on the heart thing.

Kelli (13:30.897)
B-E-S-O-S. Yep.

We Wine Whenever (13:33.223)
yeah, okay, yeah, yeah. Why did I, okay. I wasn't looking for a Spanish word, I guess. All right. And Angie's is Opa.

Lori (13:41.331)
There you go.

Kelli (13:47.079)
Because if you didn't know, she's Greek.

We Wine Whenever (13:48.247)
And yes, yes, we do know that. Andy asks if we're going to set any intentions for the day. Bronwyn says that she has some apologies and hopefully that she gets some. Whitney says she'd like to get to the root of the problem with Lisa and she would like to get a word in. yeah. So then he starts off with viewer questions.

Lori (14:11.326)
Good luck. Good luck with that.

We Wine Whenever (14:18.733)
And the first one is to Whitney. How do you explain the Alibaba pictures are the same as your website? And she says that it was a placeholder that was put there until she got to take her own pictures. It was a stock photo. She doesn't buy from Alibaba. She said that several times.

Kelli (14:32.323)
a stock photo.

Lori (14:39.398)
I don't see, I don't understand what all this confusion is. And there were people online who were just couldn't get what she was saying. So do you guys get what she was saying? Do you understand what she was saying? Yes.

Kelli (14:49.893)
What Whitney was saying? Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (14:51.322)
Yes, I understand what she was saying.

Lori (14:53.394)
Yeah, because she's saying what she is saying. Right. what Alibaba does is they see there's Whitney has two lines. Whitney has a curated line that she has made in India and it's curated, which means she does some designs and the jewelers in India make it. She sells it. She also has a line.

Kelli (14:54.513)
There's stock photos out on the internet. So Prism used it and Alibaba used it.

Lori (15:22.622)
That's from a separate manufacturer that is more affordable. So from a supplier. So that supplier has stock photos. So that's the photo that she used as a placeholder. Now it's very highly likely that that stock photo was also used by Alibaba, but they don't sell from the same manufacturer that that stock photo came from.

We Wine Whenever (15:46.245)
Right.

Lori (15:52.06)
It's just like same shit like Timo, Alibaba. They put up something that looks really good and what you get is a knockoff shit version of that. But that doesn't mean that because Alibaba stole the photograph.

Kelli (16:00.773)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (16:07.555)
It's a stock photo. It's not stolen. It's a stock photo that you can use.

Kelli (16:11.035)
Right. Like if you go on images on the internet, know, on Google images, you'll find it.

Lori (16:12.212)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (16:14.561)
Right. Right. Right.

Lori (16:17.468)
Well, or it could be a photo from a manufacturer that Whitney uses that Alibaba uses, but doesn't sell from that same manufacturer. Like you see it all the time. Right. Right. And you're going to get something else. But people seem to be like confused about that. How that all works.

Kelli (16:27.473)
Crap.

Kelli (16:31.493)
Right, so you're gonna think you're ordering from that picture and you're get something else.

We Wine Whenever (16:43.62)
No, I totally, I totally understood what she was saying. Angie is asked if she thinks Heather prioritizes her friendship with Lisa over hers when she told her the comment you said about playing the video games. So when Angie, when Heather told Lisa what Angie said about her kids, you know, I'm, you know, I'm with Electra. She's not.

sitting around playing video games, did she think that Heather was prioritizing Lisa's friendship over hers? And her response was, she said, Heather twisted my words and yeah, I did question the friendship. She did. But we all, yeah, she should. We all agreed about this, that we believe that Heather is happy that Lisa is kind of accepting her now because Heather is the pick me girl.

Lori (17:13.972)
playing video games.

Kelli (17:31.866)
She should.

Kelli (17:42.149)
Yeah, for sure.

We Wine Whenever (17:45.069)
So that's kind of, you know, she's leaning into that.

Lori (17:48.98)
I just want to go back to one thing real quick with the Alibaba. Now, I'm going back to Alibaba for a second. Now, she said that that stock photo was only up on her website for 48 hours. But it's interesting that somebody was so either lucky or invested in her jewelry line to catch it in that 48 hour window.

We Wine Whenever (17:52.623)
We're going back to Alibaba? Okay.

We Wine Whenever (18:02.851)
Yes.

Lori (18:18.708)
put it in a Google image search, see that it came from a, it's just a little, I don't know, it's a little sus. It's a little sus to me.

Kelli (18:25.083)
Yeah. Coincidental.

We Wine Whenever (18:29.572)
Well, that's kind of how she feels about the whole thing, which is why she, you know, was investigating it, right?

Lori (18:34.792)
Bye.

Lori (18:38.844)
And not only that, I'm not gonna let the other poppy think I'm gonna go. I'm going back. We're going back. Listen. No. Listen.

We Wine Whenever (18:41.539)
Wait, we're going back? Are we going back to Alibaba? Lori, let it go!

Kelli (18:42.619)
We're going back to the Alibaba? Fuckin' hey, man.

Kelli (18:50.767)
You sound like me talking about Teresa for crying out loud.

Lori (18:52.83)
Theresa. Yeah. Now that made me forget what I was going to say because it was good. so listen, so if Lisa has this big cybersecurity team, like you could have figured that out.

We Wine Whenever (18:56.014)
You

We Wine Whenever (19:02.638)
you

Kelli (19:11.569)
She was waiting for Whitney to give her the IP addresses.

Lori (19:14.888)
That's what I'm saying. so what kind of cybersecurity force are you paying money to that they can't get an IP address off a public thing? It's not something Whitney would have to...

We Wine Whenever (19:14.935)
Right.

Kelli (19:26.065)
Well, they have to get the IP address from whoever the person was who was sending things to Whitney. So they gotta get Whitney's, right? They have to look at Whitney's hardware.

Lori (19:33.454)
okay. okay.

We Wine Whenever (19:38.724)
I don't think so. I don't think so. But she also, Lisa also said, I should have sent you the bill for my security. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. No, you're not. I feel as though we're going to hear about it again. I do. really do.

Kelli (19:46.144)
Bill for what? You said they didn't do anything because she didn't give you the IP?

Lori (19:51.572)
All right, I'm let it go now. I'm gonna let it go.

Kelli (19:55.271)
I feel like there's more brewing. I sense the wheels are still spinning.

Lori (20:01.236)
All right.

We Wine Whenever (20:02.308)
The next question is, Angie and Lisa, where do you stand today? So Angie, Andy says to Angie, you posted on Twitter that Lisa has a mystery man in Park City who pays for her lip filler.

Kelli (20:14.599)
Mmm.

We Wine Whenever (20:26.451)
Angie said I fired back because Meredith started posting that I was a backup dancer for Jen Shah. I don't understand why is she firing back at Lisa when Heather, when Meredith, yeah, but it was between her and it doesn't make sense, right?

Kelli (20:38.608)
at Meredith.

Kelli (20:44.187)
That did not make sense at all.

Lori (20:44.648)
Yeah, it doesn't make sense. I don't know why she was so pissed off about being a backup dancer. She was like, I am not a backup

We Wine Whenever (20:47.116)
And then...

We Wine Whenever (20:50.869)
Well... I know she-

Kelli (20:52.679)
I totally agree with you, like who gives a shit? The video's probably five years old, who cares?

Lori (20:55.316)
There's a shit right on a stupid fucking two second video.

We Wine Whenever (21:00.257)
That video was so stupid.

Kelli (21:02.554)
It was ridiculous.

We Wine Whenever (21:06.369)
And then Meredith said, they asked me what my reaction was to the scroll you gave me. And that's when I said that because you and Monica made a video with Jen Shaw, the WAP video, and you were the backup dancers. So that's why Meredith threw that because of the scroll. So somebody asked her, like, what were your thoughts on the scroll? And she's like, well, it's coming from a backup dancer.

which again, was so stupid.

Lori (21:40.168)
Nope.

Kelli (21:40.487)
was stupid, but that was actually kind of funny that she called her a backup dancer.

We Wine Whenever (21:44.324)
It was even funnier that she was so upset about it.

Kelli (21:47.239)
It was so authentic. Like you were in the background and you were dancing. Some could say that's a background, that's a background dancer.

Lori (21:47.826)
Yes, that's what saying. She was so incest about it.

We Wine Whenever (21:52.329)
Dancing, right, right. And Angie...

We Wine Whenever (21:57.667)
I'm nobody's backup dancer, she said. And then Angie said on Twitter, Lisa's G-Wagon was repossessed. I'm like, what are you girls doing?

Kelli (22:07.897)
Yeah, it's a little much.

Lori (22:08.244)
Well, think Angie, I'm telling you, she just gets hot and then she just loses her fucking mind. And she just has diarrhea in the mouth and the later on, she's like, hmm.

Kelli (22:21.041)
Out of Lisa, Meredith, and Angie, I choose Angie.

Lori (22:24.913)
hell yeah!

We Wine Whenever (22:25.183)
Me? me too. Me too.

Kelli (22:27.249)
So whatever she's doing, she's doing it well.

We Wine Whenever (22:30.019)
Yes, I 100 % agree. Then Andy asked Bronwyn, I kind of thought you were going to wear the $4 million necklace to the reunion.

This whole interaction was a little strange. Because Bronwyn said I was gonna wear it, right? They made me a smaller version of the necklace. And then Lisa says, well, I'm friends with Emma and she said that you didn't buy the hoop earrings or the necklace or anything. She said nothing was purchased.

Lori (23:03.678)
So I think this is what happened. This is my take on it. I think that Bronwyn did a flex with the big jewelry at the anniversary thing. That's good for the jeweler. It was good for the show, blah, blah, blah. I don't think she had any intention of ever buying that necklace. It was just a flex. I think that she probably did want to get something for her anniversary. And I think that she did.

Kelli (23:22.535)
agreed.

Lori (23:32.882)
decide to get some hoop earrings and a smaller necklace made. Now, when you have that kind of money, you're not getting something out of the fucking case. A lot of times you're having it made. So she said, that girl said from the jewelry place, she was waiting on a wire transfer. So I think that Bronwyn was going to use that jeweler and was going to have hoop earrings and a necklace made. And then after the reunion,

She's like, fuck that. No, the wire transfer. You're not getting the wire transfer. Like, you can keep waiting on that. So maybe...

Kelli (24:10.715)
But Lisa said at the reunion she was waiting on a wire transfer. So it couldn't have been after the reunion.

Right?

Lori (24:20.442)
No, what I'm saying is, yeah, the girl who texted her said, they haven't bought anything. I'm supposed to be waiting for this wire transfer. Well, you know what? People like that buy shit when they want to buy it. Like, you'll get your fucking wire transfer whenever the fuck I decide I'm going to buy it. And I think then after that, she was like, well, I'm certainly not going to, you know, that's not even a thought in my head now. Right. was because after that, after that, after that.

We Wine Whenever (24:20.478)
Now.

Kelli (24:43.717)
because she said on Watch What Happens Live she has not purchased anything. Got it. Okay. Now I understand what you're saying.

We Wine Whenever (24:47.398)
Right. Yeah, well that, yeah, but yeah, but before that, so this is where it gets like, so then Bronwyn says, well, then I'll have to take that up with her. It's very odd that a jeweler would say what I did or did not purchase. And then Whitney says to Lisa, why did you ask? And Lisa says, I didn't ask. She said nothing was purchased. Andy said, let's set the record straight.

Lori (24:49.854)
That's what I'm saying.

We Wine Whenever (25:13.418)
You bought a smaller necklace and Braunwyn said, yes, a smaller carrot necklace.

Lori (25:17.98)
Yeah, so maybe she, so maybe, but I'm saying what she was, she was planning on purchasing it. Like, if you got money like that, what's the difference between if you're gonna send out a wire transfer to do it when you wanna do it? I think it's just like semantics as to whether she actually had made the purchase.

We Wine Whenever (25:39.815)
No, because then Angie's like, why would the owner call you Lisa and say that Bronwyn didn't buy jewelry? Lisa says she's not the owner. Bronwyn says, no, she works there. So she's just a salesperson. This is the first thing. She's just a salesperson, right? Angie says, so still, why would she reach out to you? Lisa said she just texted me out of the blue, right?

Lori (25:52.724)
Alright.

Kelli (25:53.553)
So who's listening to her?

Lori (26:03.326)
Bullshit. Lisa was digging, digging, digging.

Kelli (26:05.189)
Yeah. Yeah. And who, if she's a salesperson, how does she know what Bronwyn's buying?

We Wine Whenever (26:11.849)
Well, but then Lisa is saying, so Lisa's saying that I introduced you to this jeweler. So I know this salesperson. That's how she, Lisa's saying that she introduced Bronwyn to the jeweler.

Lori (26:26.076)
Okay.

We Wine Whenever (26:27.968)
Bronwyn, she didn't buy, Whitney says, can you show us the text? And then she hands the text to Andy. She hands her phone. Lisa hands her phone to Andy and Andy looks at it and he says like, it's not good. Right? So there was a text exchange between this salesperson and Lisa and

Kelli (26:38.203)
Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (26:52.06)
and links to. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (26:55.934)
That's when she said, you told them that you were sending us a wire for the hoops and they didn't receive it and you never returned the hoops. Bronwyn says, why would she send you a text if you're not friends with her? And Lisa says, I am friends with her. I just haven't talked to her in a while.

Andy says, the texts aren't great. She feels burned by you. Bronwyn says she feels burned by me. And he says, yeah. And then Bronwyn says, well, why would she feel the need to bring Lisa into this? I will take it up with her. So what I think happened is because she was just a salesperson and she does know Lisa, and if they don't get the wire transfer, that means she doesn't get her commission.

Lori (27:45.061)
yeah.

We Wine Whenever (27:46.364)
So she's putting it out there thinking that maybe Lisa will say something to her, right, not expecting it to be on the reunion, right? Would you expect that? mean...

Kelli (27:53.733)
it'll prompt Brahman to make the payment.

Lori (28:03.23)
But listen, Lisa.

Kelli (28:03.397)
With these women, I don't think you say anything unless you're ready for the world to hear it.

Lori (28:09.096)
But this, but this is the thing. This is how low Lisa will go. She threw that girl right under the fucking wheels of the bus. Just so, just so she could make a dig at Bronwyn. That was the only reason she did it. And she didn't care that this chick was going to lose her job, that she was outing her, that he didn't give a shit about none of it. But I just think the whole, the whole Bronwyn

Kelli (28:16.423)
for sure, handing her phone over.

We Wine Whenever (28:21.694)
Yeah.

Kelli (28:27.589)
Right. Exploiting the company.

We Wine Whenever (28:29.534)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (28:33.864)
Yeah.

Lori (28:38.046)
buying, not buying the jewelry is, to me, it's very plausible. Like the way I explained it to me makes total sense. And so I don't see the big deal about of it.

Kelli (28:48.251)
Right, like maybe she did put an order in for a smaller version of that necklace. Meanwhile, they taped a reunion and now Lisa's pulling out all these text messages, so Brahman's like, fuck it, I'm not buying it now. Cancel my order. The wire will not be made.

Lori (28:53.244)
Or maybe she was planning on it. Right.

Lori (28:59.824)
Yeah, I'm not buying it. Yeah.

Lori (29:06.103)
That's how I took it.

We Wine Whenever (29:09.127)
I mean, I guess it's possible, but did she even say that, I'll take pictures of it when I get home?

Kelli (29:15.281)
She did say that. She did say that. I mean, maybe she meant when she gets it.

We Wine Whenever (29:17.097)
So how is she taking pictures of it when she gets home?

We Wine Whenever (29:23.433)
don't know. don't know. It is a lot. The next we... No, we're not. We're not. Maybe we could bring... There you go. Then we see a montage of Bronwyn's fashion and Andy wants to talk to her about Bronwyn and Lisa's friendship. They have not spoken for a month at this point, which...

Kelli (29:24.205)
I don't know. It's a lot. I don't think we're cracking this case wide open.

Lori (29:25.108)
I don't know.

Lori (29:32.284)
Not like I cracked the Alibaba.

Kelli (29:34.791)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (29:51.772)
I mean, they were supposedly good friends, but Bronwyn admits that after watching it back and watching Lisa's interactions with the other girls, that she thinks that maybe that Lisa didn't think of her as a good friend as she thought of Lisa. And this is...

Kelli (30:10.703)
Yeah, like she's finally at the realization that you just weren't close friends.

We Wine Whenever (30:14.002)
Lisa's not our friend. Right.

Lori (30:17.012)
I think too that Bronwyn, they knew each other socially and they were like friends. And I think Bronwyn thought when she went on the show that because they knew each other previously that she was just gonna like become better friends. I think her expectation was that her and Lisa were going to develop a further friendship. And then.

Kelli (30:38.053)
Yeah, and then, and that's why she wouldn't get close with Whitney, even though Whitney was being very welcoming to her because she figured, well, if Lisa and Whitney don't get along, I'm not gonna be able to have that friendship with Lisa that I want.

Lori (30:51.956)
Right. Now, like, it's interesting, you know, like on Real Housewives of New York, when Jenna Lyons got that Bentley, we were like, she ain't keeping that. Like, that's just like a TV flex. So it's the same thing with the big necklace with Bronwyn. Like, nobody made this big deal, you know, about Jenna. She said, oh, look, I bought this car and then all of sudden.

We Wine Whenever (30:52.296)
Right.

Kelli (30:53.511)
if I'm close with Whitney.

Lori (31:20.402)
She returns, you know what I mean? Kind of like a. Yeah.

Kelli (31:22.031)
Yeah, they loaned it to me.

We Wine Whenever (31:25.416)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (31:29.087)
so there's another thing too about Lisa and Bronwyn. When it comes to the whole Gwen situation. So there was a scene where, John and Lisa and Bronwyn were talking about what happened when John met his birth parents.

Lori (31:57.212)
Right, I remember that, yes.

We Wine Whenever (31:59.07)
And like, that's not a conversation I don't feel like you have with someone who you're not friends with, right? And the fact that she even showed the picture of Gwen's father to Lisa at the airport, which we didn't see happen, again, when she has admitted she hadn't even shown that picture to Todd, that's not...

Kelli (32:07.047)
Good. Finds what. Yeah.

Lori (32:08.412)
Right. Right.

Kelli (32:20.049)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (32:27.825)
something you do to somebody that you're not close friends with. You know what I mean? So it seems to me kind of like what we were talking about with Dorit and Kyle, how Dorit saw the friendship one way and Kyle saw it a different way. feel like Bronwyn really, you know, when she watched it back, she's like, no, like Lisa's not my friend. You know?

Lori (32:33.34)
Right, right, right.

Kelli (32:43.355)
Yeah.

Lori (32:55.987)
Right.

Kelli (32:56.401)
But it is very clear that that Bronwyn brought up

the grandparents knowingly with Lisa on camera. I did take that away from this reunion.

We Wine Whenever (33:10.993)
Well, know, listen, she had a conversation with her daughter because the whole thing happened off camera. Initially, it happened off camera.

Kelli (33:21.583)
Right, but she brought it on camera. After talking to Gwen, I get it, but she did bring it on.

We Wine Whenever (33:23.695)
She let, because after, yeah, yeah, after she did bring it on, yeah.

Kelli (33:31.139)
I'm not, because I have a lot to say about what happened on the after show and when they get to that, I'm not excusing Lisa's part in it. I'm just saying ultimately it was, it's not like Lisa brought this on without Bronwyn knowing. It wasn't like that, which we've seen happen on Housewives and people are like, which is what's going on on Southern hospitality right now. So we gotta talk about that.

We Wine Whenever (33:36.689)
Okay.

We Wine Whenever (33:45.689)
Right. Right.

We Wine Whenever (33:56.517)
All right. So Whitney says to Bronwyn that she feels like she's watching it back, that Bronwyn doesn't claim Whitney as her friend. And that's what we just said. She didn't want to claim her as her friend because she thought that she would be disloyal to Lisa. Yeah. Heather still maintains that when Bronwyn invited her over, that she was there to sing for her supper, which she keeps saying.

Kelli (34:15.111)
It would interfere, yeah.

Lori (34:25.214)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (34:26.434)
I don't know. mean, I, it was a couple's trip and Heather isn't a couple, but I don't, I don't think that she was, I think that she really intended to invite her and she just wanted to be in a good place with her given the fact that Todd is going to be meeting this group and hanging out with them and she doesn't want to have drama.

Lori (34:46.898)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (34:46.981)
I totally agree. I think she just invited her over to like squash whatever was going on with them. It wasn't to sing for your supper. 100 %

We Wine Whenever (34:52.036)
Right.

Lori (34:52.136)
Yeah, and Heather came with a, she came with a chip on her shoulder, so.

We Wine Whenever (34:55.59)
She did. Yeah, she absolutely did. I agree with that.

Kelli (34:59.045)
Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (35:01.774)
And, but Heather didn't, she still doesn't accept that, which whatever.

Kelli (35:06.661)
Well, she's, listen, she's not gonna ever be okay with Brahman if Lisa's not okay with Brahman. Heather will make shit up to make sure she's not okay with Brahman if Lisa's not okay with Brahman. Heather's gonna do whatever she has to do to stay in the cool girl clique, in the mean girl clique right now. It's like Regina George.

We Wine Whenever (35:23.95)
Yes. So the next is a viewer from Buffalo says that Heather's weight loss is the reason for her edge this season. Can you see how you're giving Mean Girl energy? That was a harsh question.

Kelli (35:39.367)
was like, I mean that wasn't nice.

We Wine Whenever (35:41.985)
No, it wasn't nice. So Heather said,

Kelli (35:44.581)
I mean, her she wants to, mean, you whatever, however she's doing it, she's doing it. She looks great, so good for her.

We Wine Whenever (35:50.433)
I think she handled the question great, to be quite honest. I think it was a shady question. don't listen. I know was a view. Supposedly it was a viewer question, but they didn't have to pick that question.

Lori (36:00.968)
No, they didn't have to make that question.

Kelli (36:01.563)
No, they did not have to pick that question.

We Wine Whenever (36:04.087)
Heather said, season one Heather had way more confidence than this Heather. And Mary jumps in to her defense. Mary says, Heather is different. She likes herself more. She was dark and not happy when I first met her. Heather says she's happy and she's proud of herself and she doesn't want to make, she doesn't want that to make her mean. Mary said, we're proud of you. And I love that, to be quite honest with you. I love that Mary jumped in and stuck up for her. And I liked that Heather said, you know, like why do,

I'm thinking why do we have to go to the body image issues? Like why? Heather's beautiful now, she was beautiful before, like stop.

Kelli (36:35.855)
Right. Right.

Kelli (36:40.113)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (36:43.727)
The next is a viewer from Texas says, Lisa, discovered that you know Gwen's grandparents. She asked Bronwyn if she wanted that on the show and Bronwyn said no. Bronwyn said she'd never show a picture, she'd never shown it, a picture of Gwen's dad to anyone, but Gwen, and she shared it with Lisa and she didn't even, she hadn't even shared it with Todd yet at that point. So the only one that had seen it was her daughter, Bronwyn felt like she was confiding

you know, when she told Lisa and she was letting her in in a big way. Then on the after show when she spoke to Gwen's grandparents, they said that they were told that Bronwyn had a miscarriage.

Now...

Kelli (37:34.247)
That's awful. Why would she say that?

We Wine Whenever (37:35.512)
It's horrible.

Lori (37:38.814)
I think, listen, I think that the parents, the grandparents.

came up with that to get themselves out of the hot water. think that was very convenient for the grandparents to come up with that so that that's what they could tell everybody if anybody asked or if anybody knew that she was, and listen.

Lori (38:10.888)
These people.

Kelli (38:12.647)
I'm almost watching the same thing. Lori's hair just did a whole thing. You might see it, you might not. We don't know.

Lori (38:14.58)
Yeah, just the whole thing. These people, you're not going to say it. These people I feel like are very higher echelon Mormons up there. I feel like that's who they are.

We Wine Whenever (38:20.845)
Yeah.

Lori (38:34.91)
There's no way in hell that they didn't know that they had a grandchild.

Kelli (38:40.017)
This is what I was gonna say. Even if they were told a lie that she had a miscarriage. This beautiful young girl is 18 years old. There's no fucking way in hell you don't know that she's alive now. You lost your son and you still don't try to find her. It's disgusting, it's deplorable. I don't care how high up on any fucking chain you are. You're wrong.

Lisa can be friends with these people, but don't you dare go on national television and defend them. Because that's fucked up. No. It's 18 years they know this girl is alive. Stop it.

We Wine Whenever (39:14.148)
Don't spread their lies on national television.

Lori (39:20.85)
Right, and I think Bronwyn said that she spoke to the widow of...

the one, the Gwen's father, the widow. These people have known. So don't even, it was just so, it's just such a stupid thing.

Kelli (39:33.585)
father, Gwen's father's wife.

Kelli (39:38.906)
Absolutely.

Kelli (39:44.155)
and then Lisa's crying saying she feels bad for them. Why do you feel bad for them? They have a grandchild they don't acknowledge. Don't feel bad for them. I mean, listen, I know they lost their son, that's awful, but stop defending them for something that they chose to do and continue to choose to do.

We Wine Whenever (39:51.45)
All right. All right.

Lori (39:51.474)
Yeah. No.

Lori (40:03.762)
Right. And I think that's what I think that's where Bronwyn and Todd were with that is that you choosing and I don't care whether Bronwyn said to did or didn't say to Lisa, hey, look, I asked the producers to take that out. It's just not something that you just fling out there because quite frankly, it doesn't make any sense because

It makes the grandparents look like assholes. Like you say you're sitting there crying, you feel so bad for them. But then you put something out there like that, that makes no fucking sense. they were told she had a misc. Come on.

We Wine Whenever (40:49.785)
But even at that point, even if she didn't know that Bronwyn asked them to take it out, she knew the conversation that she had with Bronwyn and Bronwyn said that after Gwen was born, Bronwyn's father called and left a message. So you knew that and Bronwyn kept saying, your experience with them is far different from my experience with them.

Kelli (41:09.595)
Right.

Kelli (41:17.979)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (41:19.593)
You know what really happened, what Braunwyn is telling you happened. And then yet you're repeating something on TV that is a lie and you know it's a lie. Whether you know, whether you know, right, whether you know it was taken out or not. It just, doesn't make, it makes, it makes no sense. And, that's Lisa, that Lisa just.

Lori (41:31.892)
That's what I'm saying. It makes no sense.

Lori (41:39.924)
It doesn't make no sense. It makes no sense. Yeah.

Kelli (41:42.983)
Yeah, it's infuriating. Like she's gonna continue. Like Roman said, like she's not getting it. Like she looks at Whitney like she's not getting it. She can't, like, how do you not see that this is wrong? Just, like I said, they're clearly close friends. I don't know what they are to you, but they're something. Fine, but just stop defending them.

Lori (41:49.17)
Now, check in.

Lori (42:07.272)
Well, it's the same thing as the jeweler. She'll gladly throw the grandparents, as much as she cries and carries on, she threw those grandparents under the bus to make Brahma look bad by saying that about the miscarriage. Because it makes no sense. you're making them look even worse than they are because no one in the world would just, okay, so...

Kelli (42:22.097)
You're right.

Kelli (42:25.553)
Right.

Lori (42:36.412)
No one's gonna believe that. Like that may have been the grandparents, that may have been the lie that you told to yourself eons ago. But no, it just makes no sense. But I'm just saying that that's Lisa. In order to keep her narcissist view of her reality, she will throw anybody under the bus.

Kelli (42:52.869)
Yeah, it's infuriating to watch though.

Kelli (43:05.039)
And then she starts crying and Meredith is like, well, I think she's crying because she knows she's wrong. That's not why she was crying. She was crying because she knows she looks like an asshole now. But she still doesn't think she's wrong.

Lori (43:05.576)
And not even, yeah, just crazy, crazy.

We Wine Whenever (43:14.541)
now.

Lori (43:16.752)
Mm-hmm, because she was... No, because she's delusional.

We Wine Whenever (43:20.244)
No, she doesn't think she's wrong because... No, she doesn't think she's wrong.

Kelli (43:23.271)
I truly believe Meredith thought that that was why Lisa was crying. But that's not why Lisa was crying.

Lori (43:27.622)
No. No.

No, it was a crazy town.

Kelli (43:32.647)
We totally skipped over this, but thank God Mary said in the beginning of the reunion Robert Jr. was doing well.

Lori (43:38.856)
Yes. Good.

We Wine Whenever (43:39.072)
Yes, yes.

Kelli (43:41.093)
Yeah, but I and I only say that because my next note is that Mary looks like she's gonna fall asleep again Remember when she fell asleep with the reunion? She totally looked like she was gonna pass out I would have been the same way

Lori (43:46.568)
Yes, yes.

We Wine Whenever (43:46.682)
hahahahah

Lori (43:56.424)
Now, the only thing was that, you know, Lisa did not say that Bronwyn faked a miscarriage. But I think, like I said, I think that the point that Bronwyn and Todd were trying to make, I think it was just the people are getting confused of the verbiage. I think when Todd said that, you know, your wife said that Bronwyn faked a miscarriage.

Kelli (44:05.37)
No, she didn't.

Lori (44:25.468)
He wasn't saying that, that she said that literally. He was just saying that she put it out there that Lisa, right. Lisa put it out there because if the grandparents said that, then they're the ones who were like saying that Bronwyn like they're the ones saying that it was something that was fake. So you know I'm saying? Like when, when I'm saying is when Todd said,

Kelli (44:31.771)
Right, she repeated it.

Lori (44:55.736)
miscarriage. I don't think he was trying to say that those were the exact words that Lisa used. But the connotation

of putting that fake miscarriage rumor that the grandparents put out there, it's a fake miscarriage rumor. You see what I'm trying to say?

We Wine Whenever (45:06.901)
Was that.

Kelli (45:18.887)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (45:20.286)
Yeah, I got it.

Lori (45:21.224)
Like, yeah.

Kelli (45:26.161)
Well, now they bring the husbands out and I'm glad Todd has a chance to defend himself because I do feel like Todd's getting a bad rap on social media.

We Wine Whenever (45:28.072)
Yes, yes.

Lori (45:38.781)
I don't mind them.

Kelli (45:40.227)
I don't either. I like him. And I feel like he really took up for Bronwyn here.

We Wine Whenever (45:46.166)
wait a second. Before we get there, before the husbands come out, Andy asks if there is a path forward for Bronwyn and Lisa. And Bronwyn says, I know.

Kelli (45:56.923)
I hate when he asks these questions. Like, what are they supposed to say? Yes, absolutely. We're going to go to dinner as soon as this is over. Like, what are they going to say?

We Wine Whenever (46:05.359)
Bronwyn says, still hear you saying there's hurt on both sides. I don't think I can have a relationship if there's nothing you can see from my vantage point. Lisa says, I'm sorry and I feel bad for them too. It's a horrible situation. So she was kind of saying like, you just need to say that you've got my back. you understand, you don't have to say you feel bad for them too. Like just stop saying you feel bad for them too.

Kelli (46:30.065)
Right.

Exactly. That's all you gotta do. You can't do it.

We Wine Whenever (46:33.77)
That's all you have to do. she, and she just, she just couldn't get it. She just couldn't, yeah, she just couldn't do it. Right, Yep.

Lori (46:36.564)
She came to it.

No, he's not capable. He's not capable.

Kelli (46:43.431)
I mean, she's a true narcissist. I mean, like,

Lori (46:45.844)
Absolutely. Absolutely. how about when she was, she was, they showed her in the back with John, Lisa, and she's sitting there telling John, I've been such a good friend of Bronwyn all season and like acting all dumbfounded. She's truly delusional.

Kelli (47:04.807)
She is. She never sees herself doing anything wrong.

We Wine Whenever (47:09.33)
No, she doesn't. She doesn't. And then we come back after the break and the husbands are there.

Lori (47:09.428)
truly delusional.

Kelli (47:15.322)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (47:17.142)
Andy does ask Todd how he feels about landing on his business trips with Braun when meeting him in costumes. He said, it's fun. I think he does enjoy it. I think he gets a kick out of it.

Lori (47:30.856)
He does. You know.

Kelli (47:32.227)
I why not?

We Wine Whenever (47:36.022)
Then Mary says that Robert Sr. doesn't want to be a part of this because Andy asked. Yep. Yeah. Good for him.

Kelli (47:40.539)
That was great. She's like, he doesn't want to be here.

Lori (47:43.572)
Smart man, smart man.

Kelli (47:46.375)
Yeah, very smart.

We Wine Whenever (47:51.904)
So then one of the viewer's questions is to Bronwyn, Todd is obviously blunt. Are you concerned with him being on the show?

They, Bronwyn and Todd both admit that after watching the show back that they see themselves differently, which I think that they do, you know? And they're making changes and they're stronger now than ever before. And Bronwyn says she often likes to say something about herself before somebody else says it. And it comes across as though she's making a joke about Todd. Do you?

Kelli (48:10.044)
I do too.

Kelli (48:28.037)
I do that. I swear I do that.

I do that.

We Wine Whenever (48:35.061)
that you'll make a joke about yourself.

Lori (48:38.472)
Well, Bronwyn, when I saw that whole, I saw the podcast, I watched it on YouTube of the Vilephiles. And she was explaining that about herself and her personality that it's like a nervous thing that she does. She's anxiety, so she'll just throw something out there before somebody else can say it. It's like.

We Wine Whenever (48:47.871)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (48:56.399)
It's like getting him something.

We Wine Whenever (48:56.586)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (49:06.952)
say like self depreciating like she'll just yeah deprecating she'll just do it before someone else has a chance to do it.

Kelli (49:10.331)
Deprecating,

We Wine Whenever (49:11.635)
Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (49:17.583)
And Todd said that when she started the show that her daughter Gwendolyn was off limits and, you know, bringing up on camera, like he didn't, but they agreed when she did allow it to be brought up after she had a conversation. But, you know, he's very protective of her and I understand that, you know.

Kelli (49:34.628)
Yeah.

Yeah, he said he's been in her life since she was nine years old.

We Wine Whenever (49:42.919)
Right. Yeah. What did you think about the the Karastasis commercial that Lisa did?

Lori (49:43.058)
Yeah. Eight years old. Yeah.

Kelli (49:53.797)
Nice placement there too.

We Wine Whenever (49:56.452)
I think that was the cheapest low budget commercial I've ever seen. I think that Lisa May have done that commercial herself.

Kelli (50:00.121)
100%.

Kelli (50:05.615)
in her bathroom.

Lori (50:06.536)
So wait, so you guys watched it on Bravo. I watched it on Peacock, so much better on Peacock. You really do. There's like an extra like 10 minutes or something from Peacock and much, you really need to watch that on Peacock.

Kelli (50:10.491)
Yeah. you watched it on Peacock.

yeah, I gotta watch that. Next week I'm gonna do that.

Kelli (50:24.229)
Yeah, I'm gonna next week. I'm gonna watch it on Peacock

We Wine Whenever (50:24.596)
So there are commercials on Peacock, but I guess there wasn't a Karastasis commercial on Peacock. That's interesting. It was a bad, maybe she's just not a good actor.

Lori (50:30.384)
Uh-uh. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Kelli (50:33.511)
That is interesting.

Kelli (50:40.287)
Well, she's not. I feel like Lori would have very strong opinions about this commercial. You're gonna have to look it up. You're gonna have very strong opinions about this. Yeah, it was awful. Wendy's right. It was awful.

Lori (50:45.384)
I'm gonna have to look it up. All right, I'm sure I will, because I'm not a Lisa fan.

We Wine Whenever (50:45.588)
Yeah, you're definitely gonna... Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (50:54.674)
It really was. just, yeah.

Kelli (50:55.985)
Yeah.

Lori (50:57.512)
Listen, I'm not a fan her, I don't feel like she could do anything that I would like.

Kelli (51:03.916)
sounds like me talking about somebody else.

Lori (51:06.674)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (51:08.084)
That's all I have for the notes on this. Do you guys have anything else? I you saw the after, you saw the, I have watched What Happens Live and Bronwyn was on.

Kelli (51:18.171)
Well, all I have from the reunion is John gets right into it with Todd telling him to watch his tone. And Todd's tone was perfectly fine. He was not being authoritative. He wasn't being aggressive. He wasn't being any of those things. Your wife was way out of line for saying anything about a miscarriage.

We Wine Whenever (51:27.698)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (51:31.516)
Yes, it was.

Lori (51:32.349)
yeah.

Kelli (51:43.271)
They've had 18 years to acknowledge this young lady and they haven't done it. Like shut the fuck up, John. He's starting to really annoy me now. I feel like I cursed a lot on this episode, sorry. Two glasses of wine in.

Lori (51:47.228)
Yeah.

Learn how to park. Learn how to park. Learn how to park.

We Wine Whenever (51:52.147)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (51:56.563)
Learn how to park?

Kelli (51:58.982)
Learn how to park.

Lori (52:00.518)
and step the fuck back.

Kelli (52:01.997)
and sit down, John.

Lori (52:03.7)
Sit down. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (52:05.211)
And Andy did bring that up when John was there too. I love that. I love that.

Kelli (52:07.722)
yeah.

Lori (52:11.154)
Yeah. So we shall say about the, about the next one, but I feel like Bronwyn got a lot of unnecessary heat in regards to the jewelry. That to me, it's totally explainable and plausible. And it's just, Lisa's just low budget. She's low budget to take that dig.

Kelli (52:24.453)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (52:36.381)
Yeah.

Kelli (52:36.988)
Yeah.

Lori (52:40.766)
to throw that chick onto the bus. She's just...

Kelli (52:43.431)
Yeah. Yeah, what she did with the jeweler was... Yeah. Not good.

Lori (52:48.222)
She's low budget. Like you can show all the pictures you want about your cars and your garage and you can wear all the designer shit that you want. You're low budget. That's it. Not a fan. No, I'm good. Where'd one go?

We Wine Whenever (52:59.065)
Right. Yeah.

Kelli (53:00.795)
Yeah. Laura, any other words about Alibaba before we go?

We Wine Whenever (53:09.227)
no. All right. Low power mode. Me too. Me too. So let's just wrap it up. I'm not gonna talk about anything else. Until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Bye.

Kelli (53:10.737)
There you are. You're back.

Lori (53:10.95)
there you are. Okay. Technical difficulties, Okay. All right.

Kelli (53:15.311)
I was worried about that.

Kelli (53:20.357)
wrap it up.

Kelli (53:26.833)
Bye.

Lori (53:27.976)
Bye.