RHONY-Synchronized Swimming, Spicy Insults, and Speakerphone Scandals

RHONY-Synchronized Swimming, Spicy Insults, and Speakerphone Scandals
RHONY S15 E14 – “Quit Your Beachin’”

• Location: Day 3 in Puerto Rico, bringing drama, pranks, and tense moments.
• Ubah’s Beach Complaints: Ubah calls the beach "disgusting," upsetting other cast members. Brynn flirts with the lifeguard, and Sai teases her about her preferences.
• Water Adventures: Erin struggles with water jets and claims a fish bit her, leaving a mark.
• Rain Disruptions: Rebecca and Jessel venture for coconut water but end up in the rain. Back at the villa, tensions brew over perceived gossip and alliances.
• Synchronized Swimming Prank: Brynn orchestrates a hilarious gag involving fake pubes and Jenna choreographing swimming routines. Jenna hilariously critiques everyone’s “styling.”
• Cultural Clash: Raquel calls out Ubah for beach comments, leading to a tense debate about respect and cultural sensitivity.
• Speakerphone Mishap: Erin puts her husband, Abe, on speakerphone while the ladies eavesdrop, sparking Ubah’s anger over boundaries.
• Fiery Confrontations:
  • Ubah accuses Erin of disrespecting her husband and lashes out.
  • Ubah and Brynn clash, leading to insults and escalated tempers.
  • Sai feels Erin threw her under the bus, creating further division.
• Poolside Synchronized Swimming: The women come together (briefly) to learn moves from Jenna, ending the day with humor.

Takeaways

• The episode title 'Quit Your Beachin'' was not well received.
• The beach scene highlighted differing reactions to nature.
• Erin's determination in water sports was commendable.
• Uba's defensiveness about her comments was a key theme.
• The group dynamics showed loyalty issues among friends.
• Brynn's behavior raised eyebrows regarding her flirtation.
• The speakerphone incident created tension among the group.
• Uba's emotional responses were likened to a Ferrari.
• Editing of the synchronized swimming was praised.
• Conflicts often stem from misunderstandings and assumptions. The debate over who qualifies as a supermodel continues to spark discussion.
• Conflict resolution among friends can often lead to misunderstandings.
• The upcoming season finale is expected to be explosive and shocking.
• Fans are divided on the current cast's dynamics and authenticity.
• There is a nostalgic longing for the original cast members of the show.
• Authenticity in reality TV is crucial for viewer engagement.
• The current season lacks substantial personal stories from the cast.
• Casting decisions should prioritize genuine personalities over drama.
• The audience desires to see more of the cast's real lives and relationships.
• The conversation highlights the importance of self-reflection among cast members.

Transcript

We Wine Whenever (00:01.101)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever. I'm Wendy. We are talking about Real Housewives of New York, season 15, episode number 14, Quit Your Beachin'. That was a stupid one.

Kelli (00:03.577)
I'm Kelly.

Kelli (00:16.303)
It was a stupid one. I really don't like that name, but what do I know?

We Wine Whenever (00:21.326)
So we're in Puerto, I know, day three of Puerto Rico. We pick up on the beach where we left off. Uber's still yelling this place is disgusting.

Erin, Brynn, and Raquel all go in the water. Brynn is saying that Uber should not be complaining.

Kelli (00:43.163)
I mean, I get it. I mean, I don't know if I would have gone in the water either, but there are dead birds on beaches.

We Wine Whenever (00:52.253)
And it wasn't a pigeon. We now know it wasn't a pigeon. And you know, it happens. It's nature, you know? And I do think that her reaction was a little strong and it came off a little tone deaf and a little entitled.

Kelli (01:00.612)
It is nature.

Kelli (01:14.993)
Yes, yes.

We Wine Whenever (01:17.927)
And Raquel says that she's going to pull her aside and talk to her when she's out in the water.

Kelli (01:25.329)
I do understand her saying to Sai, don't go in the water because Sai has the issue with the foot. And God forbid that got infected and you're in Puerto Rico, you're not at home where you, you know, I get it. But Sai's a big girl. She can make her own decisions. You could say it as a friend and then back off.

We Wine Whenever (01:34.093)
100%.

We Wine Whenever (01:46.187)
Right, right. And I mean, Psy does pull out her condom for her foot, just for the sand, actually.

Kelli (01:52.605)
Did you watch Watch What Happens Live after?

We Wine Whenever (01:55.629)
Did I watch it? yes, yes I did. That was so funny.

Kelli (01:56.999)
where they played the game, could a condom fit over?

I just like what Andy said. was like, we've wasted a lot of time on this show before, but never doing this. This is very funny.

We Wine Whenever (02:10.22)
It was funny. That was funny. I'll be honest with you. I thought the most cringe scene of this whole episode was when Brynn got out of the water and she was rolling on the beach in front of that teenage lifeguard.

Kelli (02:28.273)
That was so bad, so cringe. absolutely.

We Wine Whenever (02:30.802)
It really was. It was bad. It was really bad.

Kelli (02:37.647)
I mean, I would hope she wouldn't be attracted to somebody that young. And so why? Like, just for the show?

We Wine Whenever (02:46.142)
Right. Yeah, it's just for shock value. It's just so she could flirt. There was nobody else there for her to flirt with. I don't even know that she was attracted to him. mean, Sy said she's never seen, you know, her flirt with a teenager. It's usually the dads, which, you know, that is her M.O. No, no, even though it's her tagline, it was her, it was her tagline last season.

Kelli (02:53.404)
Right.

Kelli (03:05.117)
Mm-hmm. But don't call her out on it.

Right. Yep.

We Wine Whenever (03:15.454)
Then we see Erin goes on that water jet thing. I mean, I give her lot of credit. That looks hard.

Kelli (03:21.627)
I'd give her a lot of credit for doing that. That could not be easy. I can't even stand up on water skis. Nevermind, try to do something like that.

We Wine Whenever (03:29.728)
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, and she kept falling, but she kept trying again. Like she's not a quitter. Erin is not a quitter.

Kelli (03:35.195)
Yeah. No, that was impressive because the last time she got up, she stayed up a decent amount of time. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (03:42.835)
Yeah, she did. Then when she gets out of the water, she said that she thinks a fish bit her ass and there actually was like a red mark on her. some could have been like a jellyfish or something stung her. Yeah, yeah. And then Rebecca and Jessel while they're out in the water, they go off to get coconut water and it starts raining on the beach. Like it's like downpouring.

Kelli (03:51.623)
Yeah.

Kelli (03:55.313)
Yeah, and that hurts.

Kelli (04:08.7)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (04:11.648)
So they all leave the beach and they go back to the villa and Erin goes into Uber's room and Jessel's in there and she gives the girls some chocolate and asks Jessel how she's doing. And Jessel's talking about how Brynn was so activated and then Rebecca walks in. Jessel asks Erin what was said about her and...

Uba knows what was said. Like we know that Uba knows what was said because Sai told Uba. Uba says, no, I want to hear what you heard, Erin. Like, you know, because she says to her, well, go ask. Go ask Brynn. She goes, no, I want to

Kelli (04:51.163)
And she's kind of given Erin the opportunity to say that she was talking too, but she really kind of doesn't.

We Wine Whenever (04:56.253)
Right.

no she doesn't she doesn't and an airs that well i'm not gonna say then because then you're gonna say that i'm a pigeon and i'm gossiping

Kelli (05:10.001)
So I think that Erin picks and chooses who she's gonna be loyal to and right now she's being loyal to Brynn, but not to Jessel.

We Wine Whenever (05:18.29)
she's definitely not being loyal to Jessel. Honestly, I think the only person who's really loyal to Jessel is one Uba. Sai is, you know, she has regret. Jenna's never said anything negative. I don't know though. I mean, I'm sure Jenna would stick up for her, like if she was a part of that conversation, you know?

Kelli (05:28.113)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (05:35.047)
Jenna is.

Kelli (05:44.049)
Yes, yeah, I just don't think it's in Jenna to gossip about people or to sit around while other people are doing it.

We Wine Whenever (05:52.211)
No, I mean, she's a grown woman. And so are these women. Like they shouldn't be doing it either. So then Brynn goes into Jenna's room and says that you need to choreograph their synchronized swimming.

Kelli (05:56.838)
Mm-mm.

We Wine Whenever (06:07.93)
So.

I thought that that was interesting. had no idea they were going to be doing that.

Kelli (06:16.057)
I know when Jenna did it when she was younger, she said, right? Or she watched it on the Olympics and she... No, I thought she said she did it. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (06:21.247)
She did it. She did it. No, she did it when she was younger. She did it when she was younger. And Brynn says, I know it's been a few days, but I'm still thinking about Jenna's Bush. So she wanted to recreate it. So she spent a lot of money on Amazon Prime to get it shipped to Puerto Rico.

Kelli (06:24.562)
Yeah.

Kelli (06:38.159)
Yeah, I could have done without all that.

We Wine Whenever (06:40.432)
I know, I really could have too. Cy says we all know Uba has a hard time controlling her emotions. Raquel says she's gonna talk to her privately about what happened on the beach. So then they're all outside and Brynn planned for them to all be outside, like hanging out, waiting for Jenna to walk out and Jenna walks out and she says, you know, she's got the swimming cap on and she's ready to choreograph and

she's not really catching onto it, like what's happening. And then Erin's like, it's so itchy. And then they all start like making it obvious. And then Jenna catches onto it. She does laugh at it. I mean, she is a very good sport. She really is, she really is. Then.

Kelli (07:19.419)
Right.

Kelli (07:26.279)
She's a very good sport. Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (07:39.21)
So she's laughing at it, Jenna's laughing at it. And she says to the girls, like, you have it all wrong. And she starts like restyling it. And Brynn's like, I love how her first reaction is that she needs to restyle all of us. And that's so true. Like that is so true. Not only is she like laughing with them, laughing at it, she is restyling it.

Kelli (07:52.413)
You

Kelli (08:01.799)
Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (08:06.601)
Then Raquel goes into Uba's room and says, you know, I don't think it was very nice that you ran out there and you said on the beach that it was disgusting. Uba says, well, it is disgusting. And if it went to my country and there was like a dead lion there, I would say that's disgusting too. Okay, but.

Kelli (08:26.929)
She didn't hear what Rock-El was saying. I mean, she might've heard it, but she wasn't receiving it. And she really does have a hard time listening when people try to explain their feelings about something she did. She's very defensive, Uba.

We Wine Whenever (08:29.389)
No, she wasn't getting it. No.

We Wine Whenever (08:42.749)
She's very defensive. Raquel says, you know, but that's rude. You know, do you know what this island has been through referring to Puerto Rico? And Sai's agreeing with Raquel. And then Uwe says, you guys are both picking on me because I'm not Puerto Rican? No, Uwe, that's not what it was about. It was about that you're being disrespectful to this island that is allowing us to film here.

Kelli (09:02.406)
wasn't getting it.

We Wine Whenever (09:10.597)
and that is my home country, and this is where I said was my favorite beach, and your words can hurt. And they can have an economic impact on a vacation destination.

Kelli (09:24.924)
right.

Right, right. That, like you said, is allowing us to film here right now.

We Wine Whenever (09:33.048)
Right, right. So then they're outside. They're still not doing the synchronized swimming yet. I don't know why. Brynn says, let's text your man.

Erin says, all right, let me get my phone. So then Erin calls Abe on speakerphone and says, you know, hey, it's me with Brynn. It's just the three of us. We're hanging out in the bath, Brynn is talking, we're hanging out in the bathroom together. All the ladies are listening. Erin says, you know, don't be weird. And then Oob is getting really upset and she yells out that you're on speakerphone and everyone's listening to you.

She walks out and say, you know, this is not cool. And listen, I understand that she thought it was inappropriate to do that to Abe in front of everybody on camera.

I understand that, you know? And I think even Erin mentioned it on Watch What Happens Live that, you know, she was doing it out of respect for Abe. wasn't that.

she didn't trust Aaron or thought Aaron was just doing it out of respect for Abe.

Kelli (10:49.413)
I totally agree. I didn't think what Uba did was so wrong. thought, God forbid this guy really thought that this was happening. I don't understand why Aaron would do that. I know it's a joke, but I think Aaron is pushing the envelope a little far with Abe. This guy is a really good sport. But what if, God forbid, he really took that serious and went along with it?

We Wine Whenever (10:59.577)
Right.

Kelli (11:19.601)
because they've talked about swing, like he's talked about swinging in the past, you know?

We Wine Whenever (11:24.401)
Well, the producers asked him that. So he had a confessional afterwards and the producer said to him, if he ever thought about having a threesome with Brynn, he said, no, that breaks the rules of swinging. And the producer said, well, what are the rules of swinging? He says, well, it's got to be with somebody you don't know because then if you see them again, it'll be awkward.

Kelli (11:47.141)
And I'm not into swinging, but I totally respect that rule.

We Wine Whenever (11:50.563)
Yes, I respect that rule as well. Also not into swinging, but the fact that one, he did a confessional about it. Two, we've seen him talk about other things that we would think to be uncomfortable. mean, Erin's already showed his penis to her friends on camera, right? So, Abe is a good sport.

Kelli (12:08.733)
Right.

Kelli (12:13.307)
He's a very good sport.

We Wine Whenever (12:14.72)
he's a good sport and i think they have a very good relationship and she did say that she texted him before she made the call and he knew that she was doing it

Kelli (12:17.808)
Yes.

Kelli (12:23.217)
Yeah, see, but that's the point. Like we didn't know that. And did Uba know that? So yeah, so I can see why Uba did what she did. It would have made me feel very uncomfortable if that were going on around me with a married couple. It's just, what you do behind closed doors is your business, but this is on national television and nobody knew your husband was in on it.

We Wine Whenever (12:25.829)
Right. Right. And neither did Uber. No, neither did Uber.

We Wine Whenever (12:35.364)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (12:44.144)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (12:51.256)
Right, right. And I don't think Brynn knew either.

Kelli (12:55.449)
No. You know what I found interesting? So Rebecca said something about sending a nude and Brynn says, Rebecca seemed real comfortable sending a nude. So maybe those rumors were true. You know, the rumors about her being pregnant and not knowing who the father was. Brynn said that about Rebecca. Yeah, right before they called Abe, she was like, Rebecca seemed real comfortable with that nude. So maybe those rumors were true.

We Wine Whenever (13:13.166)
When? In this episode?

Kelli (13:22.873)
Now for somebody who just got so jacked up because somebody said maybe you slept with somebody to get this job, why are you saying that this rumor could be true because she felt comfortable sending a nude? Like there's too many double standards with Bren.

We Wine Whenever (13:23.088)
That's

We Wine Whenever (13:31.142)
That's crazy.

We Wine Whenever (13:40.837)
And Brynn knows that that was just made up. That Rebecca was part of that. that's just shit. I did not, missed that. That annoys me about Brynn.

Kelli (13:44.391)
Right.

Exactly.

Kelli (13:52.645)
Yeah. Yeah, she's just annoying. She's just annoying this season. I don't know what happened to her. She was fairly likable last season, but I don't know. so that's why Brynn said everyone was consenting because I have written here Abe didn't know, but I didn't realize he did know.

We Wine Whenever (14:11.588)
Yeah. So then Jessel goes to check on Uba and Uba's like, it's all jokes and fun, but when it comes to husbands, it should be off limit. Jenna thinks that Uba's making assumptions that Erin doesn't care for her husband and if anyone should have a problem with it, it should be Abe. Then they go back out and like Uba's sitting off to the side and she drops her glass and it breaks. And then the ladies get up and they're actually going to go to learn the synchronized swimming.

Kelli (14:41.725)
I'm gonna need one of those caps. Could you imagine how fast I could swim if I had one of those caps? I know, I would be like lightning.

We Wine Whenever (14:41.871)
Genesis.

We Wine Whenever (14:46.527)
my gosh, I can't imagine you'd be, I mean, I think you'd probably get a a swim without the flowers on it, but the flowers do look good. But they, yeah, but they did look stylish, the flowers. So Jenna starts teaching them the moves and Jenna keeps calling Rebecca Rachel by mistake.

Kelli (14:54.471)
Probably, yeah, I need a sleek one,

Kelli (15:00.401)
Yes, absolutely.

Kelli (15:10.786)
my God, what was that?

We Wine Whenever (15:14.149)
I have no idea, but that was so awkward.

Kelli (15:15.491)
I know. So awkward.

That was so awkward.

We Wine Whenever (15:24.163)
I know, it was very awkward. Brynn said in her confessional, Uba is a Ferrari, she goes from zero to 130. I have to agree with that, she does. I don't remember what happened at this point, but then I have Uba starts yelling at Erin and Uba gets up and splashes her as Erin walks away.

Kelli (15:34.331)
I agree with that too.

We Wine Whenever (15:51.108)
because she doesn't want to engage. What was that about? What were they yelling about?

Kelli (15:54.781)
I don't know, I have that Uba wasn't letting Erin say what she wanted to say. So after they did the synchronized swimming, which I loved how they edited it, it was great.

We Wine Whenever (16:03.278)
to sing.

We Wine Whenever (16:07.768)
They edit it. Yes, because it was horrible watching them do it, but then when they put it together and they, yes, with the music, it was way better. Yes. Yes, it was.

Kelli (16:16.741)
Yeah, in the black and white, that was really good. But then guess Erin moves over in the pool towards Uba to talk to her about, I guess, what just had happened with the Abe phone call and whatever else. Uba, she just was not listening. She just doesn't listen. She doesn't, and I know you're not good friends with these people, but you have to give people a chance to talk before you run them over with your thoughts.

We Wine Whenever (16:46.594)
Right, right.

We Wine Whenever (16:51.448)
So Erin does walk away because she doesn't want to engage. I guess Uba thinks that Erin was doing something to harm her husband by calling him on speaker. Uba's telling Brynn that she's fake. You're not who you say you are. Brynn calls her a commercial airline and she flies private. So she's calling Uba the commercial airline. But you know Brynn is the one who said to her, Uba says,

Kelli (17:04.519)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (17:21.601)
Who were you flying private with, Brynn? Brynn says, you're not Naomi. Brynn's the one who said to her, you're not Naomi. She didn't compare herself to Naomi. Brynn said to her, you're not Naomi. And then Uwe says, Naomi and Gisele wish they were me. But Brynn brought up Naomi's name first. And like, she's not like, when everyone's talking about it and everything I see on social media, that's not what they're.

Kelli (17:31.857)
Right.

Kelli (17:42.535)
Yes, yes.

We Wine Whenever (17:50.222)
They're saying that how dare Uwe compare herself.

Kelli (17:54.855)
mean, listen, they're all models and, you know, Giselle wasn't a supermodel.

We Wine Whenever (17:57.206)
Right. I know.

Kelli (18:03.931)
Like Giselle was, you know, was she? Well, I guess she was. Yeah, I guess she was.

We Wine Whenever (18:04.183)
Hmm. I mean, I think she was. I think she was considered a supermodel. But I think pretty much if you're a Victoria's Secrets model, you're considered a supermodel.

Kelli (18:16.369)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (18:18.595)
Which, by the way, Uber could be a supermodel.

Kelli (18:21.853)
Of course she could, look at her.

We Wine Whenever (18:26.495)
I just listen and it's Brynn that started it like she's the one who started it and that's the whole point

Kelli (18:30.929)
I wish, I wish Uba went in harder when she kept saying Brynn you're fake, you're fake. Why? Say why. Say why.

We Wine Whenever (18:38.327)
Right.

And Brynn's like yelling that she's sticking up for Aaron and Aaron like is telling Brynn that she's got up to defuse the situation. She didn't need her yelling and making it worse. And then Brynn feels like Aaron doesn't have her back when Brynn was trying to have Aaron's back, but Aaron didn't need Brynn to have her back. She got up so that she didn't engage and she walked away.

Kelli (19:03.567)
And listen, we don't need everybody ganging up. Like if you got beef with somebody, you talk to that person. Nobody else needs to be around, you know, like, you know what I mean? Like it's not a pile on. If you have something to say to somebody, say it. You don't need your friend there backing you up.

We Wine Whenever (19:27.137)
Right. 100%. I agree with you, 100%.

Kelli (19:30.373)
Especially Brynn who runs her mouth constantly. Especially in her confessionals, she's rude.

We Wine Whenever (19:37.091)
Yeah. Then, so, Psy says it's fucked up that Erin told Jessel that Psy and Brynn were talking shit about her and didn't include herself in what was said. So then Erin goes and says to Jessel, thanks a lot for telling Psy that Brynn and I were talking trash. Erin says, I'll never trust you again. So this was brought up on Watch What Happens Live 2, because Erin and Psy were both on it.

Kelli (20:01.021)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (20:06.038)
Basically, Erin admits that, you know, she was just as much to blame as Cy. And Cy didn't do anything wrong. She...

Kelli (20:16.381)
but she didn't say that in Puerto Rico. Erin.

We Wine Whenever (20:19.922)
Erin, no, no, she didn't. No, she absolutely didn't. And that's the thing, though, with Erin. She doesn't always own it at the time. I guess when she reflects on it and watches it back or

Kelli (20:33.575)
think she's just scared to admit it in the moment because she doesn't want to get the heat.

We Wine Whenever (20:37.697)
Yeah, and honestly, that was such a volatile situation at the time anyway, because she was just like defusing the situation with Uber, and now they're bringing in Jessel and Cy about, know, like, and Brynn, it just was a lot going on at the same time. And, and we don't know, like, there's still something worse that happens. Like, this is still, this is still not it. And Andy has said,

Kelli (20:42.619)
Yeah.

Kelli (20:54.459)
Right, it was a lot.

Kelli (21:02.364)
Yeah.

It's the season finale next episode.

We Wine Whenever (21:07.006)
Yeah, and Andy has said and the ladies have said that this has never happened before and that this is not repairable. just, I can't imagine what it is.

Kelli (21:17.531)
Yeah, and like, Sai said, everybody's gonna be shocked.

We Wine Whenever (21:21.484)
I hope that this is true. I hope they're not building it up and then it's not what they're saying it is.

Kelli (21:26.125)
Well, I know, because Andy does do that. He does that about every franchise's new season. Like, just wait, wait until you see, wait until you see. And then it's like, see what? Like Potomac, like see what?

We Wine Whenever (21:35.873)
Right.

Kelli (21:39.823)
Mia, act a fool?

We Wine Whenever (21:42.675)
Right.

Kelli (21:44.647)
So yeah, we'll see. We'll see if this is really.

We Wine Whenever (21:49.569)
we will say uh... i also i also saw somebody said i i didn't look it up to verify it but uh... supposedly who was man is eight billionaire with a b

Kelli (22:05.459)
I believe it.

We Wine Whenever (22:06.857)
I mean, I don't know. Yeah, I mean, it's very possible. I'm just happy that she's happy and she's got a man. I'm happy that she's happy. You know, if she decides not to come back for another season, I think that would be okay, you know?

Kelli (22:09.413)
I believe that.

Kelli (22:14.075)
Me too, me too.

Kelli (22:25.469)
I'm really curious if any of them are coming back. I really, really am. People hate this show. They hate it. I don't hate it. I don't think it's great.

We Wine Whenever (22:32.767)
Well,

don't hate it. I don't think it's great. think that Brynn needs to self-reflect and change course. I think she has the ability to change course. I think that Uba doesn't need this and I think it would be okay either way, whatever she decides.

Kelli (22:50.076)
Yes.

Kelli (23:02.759)
Yeah. think that production needs to start focusing on their work. Their, you know, personal, again, it's kind of like what we just said about Salt Lake. Like, they're not giving us anything about their home lives. I mean, Uba's talking about her journey trying to get pregnant. Brynn, but I don't even believe that Brynn's, I don't, I don't know. You know.

We Wine Whenever (23:28.224)
Right.

Kelli (23:30.491)
We're not seeing anything of substance about their lives. But I guess all of the franchises are heading in this direction. Like it's just all about rumors and who said what about who and it's just, it's tiresome.

We Wine Whenever (23:47.539)
It is tiresome. mean, I feel like, listen, we do get to see Jessel's real life. We've seen several scenes with Jessel's mom. We've seen many scenes with Povit. You know, we know she's got two small children. As much as I was sick of hearing about Raquel and her mother, because we did hear about that a lot this season, we got to meet her mother. got to

Kelli (23:56.967)
Yeah.

Kelli (24:11.397)
Yeah, exactly. At least we got to see the dynamic between the two of them, kind of like closed up loose ends, guess, tied up loose ends.

We Wine Whenever (24:16.042)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (24:21.34)
Yes, yeah. But like I said, at least we got to see her. We got to learn a little bit about her relationship and how complicated it is. We don't know anything about Jenna, really. We don't. I mean...

Kelli (24:31.195)
Yeah.

Kelli (24:35.703)
She doesn't show her partner, she doesn't show her son, she doesn't even show anything about her work.

We Wine Whenever (24:42.785)
Well, yeah, I mean her work is very limited right now, right? mean she last season she showed us a little bit about her lashes She's got the lash line and now she started this other consulting position Or what is she? Yeah, what I think she calls herself editor in law at large But we don't really know about her per se right Psy I think we know about Psy

You know, we've seen David many times. We've seen her aunt. We've seen her upstate New York house. We've seen her house in Brooklyn. Like, we've seen different sides of her. Right? The only thing we've seen about Brynn is we've seen her brother.

Kelli (25:20.38)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (25:30.784)
and her dog, Gideon. Yeah, but we don't really know Brynn. We only know what Brynn wants us to know. And Brynn doesn't give us real information. Brynn needs to stop over producing and just be herself. And let us see who she really is.

Kelli (25:33.991)
was his face, the guy.

Kelli (25:44.443)
Right.

Kelli (25:52.551)
Exactly. Totally, totally agree. Right.

We Wine Whenever (26:00.397)
I think that Rebecca's definitely not going to come back.

Kelli (26:04.551)
Now, I don't think she wants to and I don't think they want her.

We Wine Whenever (26:08.626)
Yeah, I don't think Rebecca's coming back. I guess we just have to wait and see what happens. I know there is a lot of talk. People really, they miss the old New York, but you can't bring back the old New York. It wouldn't, it wouldn't work. I think that a younger cast is good. I just think that they need to, like you said, focus on the right things and maybe bring in a a different mix of people, like somebody else.

Kelli (26:20.88)
Nah.

Kelli (26:30.577)
Yeah.

Kelli (26:38.961)
Somebody who's willing to show every facet of their life. You can't have facet. Like we knew everything. I mean, we didn't know that Luanne had an open marriage, but we eventually knew that. But Luanne showed her kids, Luanne showed her brownstone, Ramona showed us everything. These women showed everything. Yes, there was some drama in there, but we really knew like what was going on in their lives. But we didn't know that Mario was a big fat cheater.

We Wine Whenever (26:44.115)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (27:06.696)
I think we knew that. Yeah, yeah. I mean...

Kelli (27:08.271)
eventually. But Bethany showed everything. Carol showed everything. Like these, you know, that's what you want. not, and you know, like we talked about it with the Beverly Hills episode, because you said, was the double standard with, you know, Jenna not showing. Jenna came on the show and didn't want to show her love life. Okay. I respect that because

It's not like she was in a longstanding marriage where like you both had a conversation about signing on to this show. But come on, Janet, you gotta show us your son, which she did.

We Wine Whenever (27:45.435)
Yeah, I mean, we saw her son once or twice.

Kelli (27:47.591)
something. You have to give us something.

We Wine Whenever (27:50.387)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Kelli (27:54.129)
Like this is what you need to do, Bravo. You need to cast people who are willing to put it all out there. Like Emily Simpson. You know, like she puts everything out there.

We Wine Whenever (28:01.043)
You know, yeah, Emily, she does put everything out there. You know what I thought was an interesting idea? Who said it? On one of the Watch What Happens Live, they said maybe they should bring back, and I wasn't a fan of hers, but a Heather. Heather? Yeah, yes, yes, the one who worked for Diddy. I was not a fan of hers, but that would be interesting.

Kelli (28:16.519)
Thompson, Thomas, other Thomas.

Yeah.

Kelli (28:25.959)
But she used to say, hola. She said that all the time. Yeah. I don't... It was so long ago. I can't remember if I liked her a lot, but I remember her calling somebody out for having a ghostwriter.

We Wine Whenever (28:28.156)
Huh, yes, yes she did.

We Wine Whenever (28:35.07)
Bye!

wasn't carol because i'm sure it wasn't carol that had a ghostwriter

Kelli (28:43.664)
Now who are they talking about?

We Wine Whenever (28:46.066)
Well, who else had a book? Bethany? that would seem more like it, to be quite honest with you. So, I don't think so.

Kelli (28:46.939)
Maybe Carol called her out for having a ghostwriter.

Kelli (28:52.379)
Maybe that's what it was, I forget. Or Aviva, did Aviva write a book? Because she was on with Aviva.

We Wine Whenever (28:59.378)
Yeah, I know she, I don't think Aviva wrote a book. You think she did? I don't know. What would it be about?

Kelli (29:02.757)
I don't know. I'm going to have to look into this. Harry Dubin.

We Wine Whenever (29:07.55)
God, I did hear that Carol and Andy have like made up. Yeah, so that's good. That's good.

Kelli (29:13.167)
I did see that as well.

Kelli (29:17.661)
It's good, but she was right when she said he got rich off the backs of these women. She was 100 % right. So I hope she didn't backpedal on that.

We Wine Whenever (29:26.741)
I can't see her back. She have no reason to backpedal.

Kelli (29:29.305)
Yeah, well it makes sense that they squashed their beef because now Andy can't stand Bethany because of the whole reality reckoning and Carol and Bethany had a falling out. So, you know, this all plays online. Bring Carol back. I loved Carol. She was one of my favorite housewives. She took no shit from anybody.

We Wine Whenever (29:49.614)
Carol too and I would say bring her back but I don't I don't think she fits in with this group.

Kelli (29:56.348)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (29:59.186)
I mean, maybe, yeah, maybe, because Jenna's older too.

Kelli (30:02.204)
What about Tinsley? Bring Tinsley back. She got her happily ever after.

We Wine Whenever (30:05.96)
There's no way Tinsley would come back. I would love to, I know I would love to see Tinsley again, but there's no way she would come back. She got her happily ever after and she's got her family. Why would she, she has everything she wants. I am too. I am too. So who could they bring back that would actually work? Kelly Bensimone. Can you imagine?

Kelli (30:08.103)
you'll need it.

Kelli (30:17.51)
Yeah, I'm so happy for her. I really, really am happy for her.

Kelli (30:31.623)
Did you see the picture online of Kelly with, who the hell was she with?

It wasn't anybody from New York, was it?

No, Sutton, it was Kelly Benzimon and Sutton. And Sutton posted the picture and they looked like themselves. And then Kelly posted the picture of it all filtered. I mean, I saw Kelly's picture first and I'm like, who is that? Because it wasn't, don't follow Kelly. So I saw it on some, you know, Bravo. I had no idea it was her. used so many filters or whatever the filter she was that she used.

We Wine Whenever (30:54.619)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (31:00.155)
did see that. Yeah. Sutton's yeah.

We Wine Whenever (31:09.777)
Yeah, it is.

I did see that. So funny.

Kelli (31:15.621)
Yeah, and then Sutton's was side, you know, then I saw another post of Sutton's picture side by side. I'm like, that's who they really look like.

We Wine Whenever (31:22.493)
That is funny. No, I was joking. All right, I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens. Next week's the finale. Yes. So until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Bye.

Kelli (31:26.343)
That was funny. No, no Kelly Bensimon.

Kelli (31:34.683)
Yeah, so next week's the finale. So it's really gonna explode.

All right.

Kelli (31:45.575)
bye.