The EffYou 50's -A Celebration of Womanhood

The EffYou 50's -A Celebration of Womanhood

In this engaging conversation, Trish Appello shares her inspiring journey into independent filmmaking, emphasizing that it's never too late to pursue one's passion. She discusses the importance of finding a supportive community, particularly among women, and how her family played a crucial role in her filmmaking journey. The discussion also touches on generational perspectives on womanhood, the challenges of societal norms regarding aging, and the significance of housecoats as a metaphor for comfort and self-acceptance. Trisha's experiences highlight the empowerment that comes from collaboration and the celebration of women's voices in film. In this engaging conversation, the speakers discuss the evolving dynamics of reality TV, particularly focusing on the Housewives franchise. They express a desire for more authentic and positive portrayals of women, contrasting the current toxic environment with the original essence of the shows. The conversation also touches on personal experiences with celebrities, the phenomenon of 'housewife hunting', and the impact of producers on the narrative direction of reality shows. Ultimately, they call for a shift towards kinder, more genuine storytelling in reality television. In this engaging conversation, the hosts and guest Trish Appello explore the themes of entertainment, authenticity, and empowerment, particularly for women in midlife. They discuss the balance of humor and darkness in reality TV, the journey of scriptwriting, and the importance of women supporting each other. Trish shares her experiences with the phrase 'TheEffYou 50s' and how it represents a transformative period in women's lives. The conversation emphasizes the need for fun, laughter, and resilience in the face of criticism, celebrating the achievements and contributions of women of a certain age.

Takeaways

• Trish began her filmmaking journey in her mid-fifties.
• Volunteering at a film festival helped Trisha find her community.
• Independent filmmaking often relies on grassroots funding.
• Family support is crucial in creative endeavors.
• The EffYou 50's project is a pro-women initiative.
• Generational perspectives on womanhood are evolving.
• Body positivity is an important theme in Trisha's work.
• Housecoats symbolize comfort and self-acceptance.
• Aging should be celebrated, not stigmatized.
• Collaboration among women in film is empowering. Women should uplift each other rather than tear each other down.
• The current reality TV landscape has become overly toxic.
• Viewers miss authentic moments and family dynamics in shows.
• Celebrity encounters can lead to humorous and awkward situations.
• Manifesting dreams can lead to unexpected opportunities.
• Housewife hunting is a fun way to engage with the franchise.
• Positive storytelling is essential for a better portrayal of women.
• Producers play a significant role in shaping the narrative of reality shows.
• The cost of fame in reality TV can be detrimental to personal lives.
• Authenticity and humor should be prioritized over drama in reality TV. Reality TV should be entertaining, not mean-spirited.
• Humor is essential in balancing darker themes.
• Women of a certain age have valuable experiences to share.
• Criticism should be disregarded if it comes from unqualified sources.
• Empowerment comes from embracing one's age and experiences.
• Women supporting women is crucial for collective growth.

https://www.trishappello.com/theEffYou50s

Transcript

Wendy (00:01.613)
Welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:03.884)
I'm Kelly.

Lori (00:05.147)
I'm Lori.

Wendy (00:06.583)
Today we have a special guest. We are thrilled to have Trish Appello, an aspiring filmmaker hailing from Long Island, New York. She embarked on her independent filmmaking journey in her mid fifties, proving that it's never too late to pursue your passion. We're to be talking to her today about her latest production, the Effyou 50s. Join us as we dive into Trish's remarkable journey and the world of independent filmmaking. Welcome Trish.

Trish Appello (00:35.266)
Thank you, ladies. Thank you. Thank you, my Jersey girls. Thank you for having me on. I appreciate it.

Lori (00:37.296)
Yes, welcome. Yeah.

Kelli (00:39.416)
Yeah, very nice to meet you. Yeah.

Wendy (00:39.6)
Yeah

Yeah, we're glad to have you. So I wanted to ask you, like, what made you decide to do this? Like, why in your 50s did you decide to become a filmmaker?

Lori (00:42.824)
Yeah.

Trish Appello (00:53.646)
It really started when I was born and I never pursued it. I was also going to go out and I graduated in 79. I was going to go and study acting and I chickened out. And then in my mid fifties, I was lucky enough to volunteer for the Long Island International Film Expo. And there I found my

My peeps. yep, I found my tribe and independent filmmaking is outside of the studio. So it's a lot of like GoFundMe, Spark, raising money for production. And I knew this is where I wanted to be. I would conduct the Q and A's and I'd hear the filmmakers speak. And you could, you could literally feel the blood, sweat and tears that it took for them to

Lori (01:24.358)
And you tried.

Trish Appello (01:52.504)
bring their story from pen to the screen. And I then volunteered at, I was volunteering at the film festival. Then I would really lend my time on film sets. There's filming going on all the time on large scale, small scale. Then I started doing background. I was doing background. I was on season six of Orange is the Black, recurring background role.

I was in cell block D and I was in the trailer in the fight scene. yes, made the Orange is the New Black. Yeah. I had 10 episodes on that and billions I was on Mrs. Maisel, the first episode. I even, I even then I started booking on my own. I booked a New Jersey lottery commercial. I'll have to send that to you ladies.

Kelli (02:29.23)
This was orange is the new black that that okay

Wendy (02:29.429)
Cool.

Wendy (02:48.876)
Lori (02:49.096)
there you go. Yeah.

Wendy (02:51.606)
Hahaha.

Kelli (02:51.629)
Absolutely.

Trish Appello (02:51.754)
and then I got an agent. It was like, it was, it was on a nice roll, but it's, it's not an easy business. And, then COVID came and things have not really been the same. So when COVID happened, I decided to go back to school to UCLA extension and study my independent film production.

Lori (03:05.544)
Mm-hmm.

Trish Appello (03:20.558)
certificate and I literally walked graduation on the UCLA stage in June of 2023.

Kelli (03:30.042)
That's amazing. Yeah, God bless you. That's great.

Wendy (03:30.163)
That's awesome. Yes.

Lori (03:31.516)
Congratulations. Good for you.

Trish Appello (03:32.654)
Thank you. I didn't mean, we know it June of 2024, maybe. All right. You know, know, have the metaphors brain. It's like, yeah, dates and nouns. Yes.

Lori (03:37.717)
it doesn't matter. Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (03:38.368)
yeah, the days are long, but the years are fast. That's right.

Lori (03:43.036)
Yes, it happened. That's all that matters. happened. So now I want to ask you, what prompted you to do that first initial thing where you volunteered?

Wendy (03:43.083)
Hahaha!

Trish Appello (03:46.187)
It did. It happened.

Trish Appello (03:55.116)
what prompted me was, you know what? was, the kids were flown and grown. I was very involved in the community and, the PTA and, my son's like football boosters and my daughter's theater program. And, then they went to college and I was, you know, like, what do I do now? It was, it was, it was the next chapter. I needed something. I needed something from me.

Kelli (04:18.404)
What do I do now?

Lori (04:19.24)
Yeah, what do I do now?

Lori (04:24.338)
Mm-hmm.

Trish Appello (04:24.366)
And I stumbled upon a film office. Most counties have a film commission as well as each state has a film commission. And I stumbled upon the Nassau County Film Commission and I volunteered there. And from there, I then started a...

Lori (04:42.925)
cool.

Trish Appello (04:47.788)
volunteering at the film festival, which then they asked me to sit on the board and I was the secretary for the Long Island Film and Television Foundation. four years, I split my time now with Florida and New York. After four years, we came down here. That was right before COVID also. So that's when a lot of my acting dried up a bit. And I'm in Florida now. Sarasota.

Kelli (05:02.276)
Good.

Lori (05:11.602)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (05:12.063)
So down here, you're in Florida now? Sarasota Okay, that's...

Lori (05:18.024)
So you are a snowbird.

Trish Appello (05:18.606)
Party at Trish's. Come on down, come on down.

Wendy (05:22.921)
There you go.

Lori (05:23.506)
winner.

Kelli (05:27.514)
So you passed your love of the theater onto your daughter then.

Trish Appello (05:32.654)
Here's a funny story. She's been a theater kid again since she was born and she was in a theater program. It's a co-curricular program in Calhoun High School in Merrick, New York. And she was gonna pursue acting and she decided that she was gonna be a special ed teacher.

Kelli (05:59.066)
Wow.

Wendy (05:59.498)
Good for her!

Trish Appello (06:00.47)
That to me is everything. And so she wasn't pursuing it, so I did. And my agent at the time, her son was in the program with my daughter. And she said, wait, you don't want me to see the daughter? You want me to take a look at the mom? And he's like, yeah, she's kind of funny, mom. I think you should take a look at her. And we wound up working together. And she was my agent for a bit. So that was fun. Yeah.

Kelli (06:02.509)
Absolutely.

Lori (06:06.14)
there you go. Beautiful.

Kelli (06:06.169)
Yeah.

Kelli (06:19.168)
Ha!

Lori (06:26.792)
That's great. That's great.

Kelli (06:28.034)
I love that your kids were in this with you.

Trish Appello (06:32.136)
okay. So I'm glad that you put onto that. Yeah, that Proud Mama moment, right?

Wendy (06:34.693)
Yes. Yes.

Kelli (06:36.032)
Absolutely. And their support, just,

Lori (06:36.678)
Yes.

Trish Appello (06:41.474)
Yes, yes. And there's an unsung hero, my husband.

Kelli (06:46.254)
I was gonna ask why he wasn't in it.

Lori (06:46.471)
Yeah.

Wendy (06:50.442)
It's gotta hold the camera, right?

Kelli (06:51.842)
That is true.

Trish Appello (06:52.206)
Yeah. Someone had to stay in Florida with the two dogs. So I literally, my, my, my director and my cinematographer flew in from LA and I literally didn't have room for him at the house. I'm like, thank you so much for all your support, but you can't come. You got to stay behind and watch the dogs in Florida. So, but we got to screen it.

Wendy (06:54.569)
hahahahah

Kelli (06:56.218)
okay.

Lori (07:09.96)
But

Wendy (07:10.324)
hahahahah

Lori (07:12.456)
Yeah, there you go.

Kelli (07:13.049)
Yeah.

Trish Appello (07:17.13)
and he was the MC of the screening. It was a great screening for friends and family. So it really was a collaborative, which filmmaking is, but it was also a family collaborative effort.

Lori (07:22.982)
nice.

Kelli (07:29.122)
Yeah, I love the support your kids show, know, just by being in it, participating in it and embracing it.

Lori (07:37.276)
Yeah, that's nice. It's very nice.

Trish Appello (07:37.356)
Yes, thank you. you know, did you learn your lines? Did you learn your lines? Leave me alone. Stop, stop texting me. I'll get it. Don't worry. But they did, but they did. They got it.

Lori (07:48.028)
Yes. Yeah. That's good.

Kelli (07:52.772)
How long did it take to from, you know, beginning to end to actually film it and be done?

Trish Appello (07:59.124)
It was, you know what, was June, it was June 23 when I walked and it was July, 2023 when I, on Facebook said we are officially in pre-production on the Effyou 50s, the first proof of concept episode. And then we screened it in November of 2024, so 16 months. And honestly, in the independent world, that's fast.

Kelli (08:28.942)
Yeah.

Lori (08:29.01)
I was going to say that sounds fast. Like I know nothing about it, but that sounds fast for all that work.

Trish Appello (08:33.514)
It's a lot of work. It's 20 minutes, 16 months took 20 minutes. That's, mean, 20 minutes took 16 months. Yeah.

Lori (08:43.304)
Isn't that crazy?

Kelli (08:45.572)
Right.

Wendy (08:45.798)
Yeah, that's a lot. That's a lot. And now have you sent it out to networks?

Lori (08:48.2)
It's a lot. Yeah.

Trish Appello (08:48.28)
Yeah.

Kelli (08:48.442)
Yeah.

Trish Appello (08:54.638)
Um, I took off for December. Now it's January. And that is the plan of, um, reaching out to networks, streamers, production companies. have a, my team, I got to talk about my team because my team, I, women who are my marketing gal Kimi is, I'm going to say we're all over 50. I'm not going to say anybody's age is over 50. The director Tracy.

over 50. The webmaster, Debbie, over 50. The women in it, they were my friends from the neighborhood, over 50.

Wendy (09:36.904)
Yeah!

Kelli (09:38.322)
I was going to ask, was everyone who filmed someone in your life that you knew already? Yeah.

Trish Appello (09:43.394)
Yes, yes. The woman playing Queen G is a friend. She's also a SAG actress. She was the only SAG actress. Yes, but she also was a friend that I met through the film festival. A lot of the crew I met through the film festival. In the independent, in the smaller counties like Nassau County, there's a tight knit group and also,

Kelli (09:52.74)
Wow.

Trish Appello (10:12.514)
We're friends with a lot of the folks in New Jersey. I know the Garden State is a big one in a film festival and I know a lot of people there. There's a lot of support in this community also in the independent film community, which means a lot to me. So yeah, had the core producers were about six women. They ranged from ages 26 to 62.

Kelli (10:24.324)
Yeah.

Trish Appello (10:42.222)
at the time, really representing all different groups, BIPOC, LGBTQ, the crew itself was multi-gen. And that was important to me because I learned a lot from my kids. I have a son also who's 24 and I learned a lot from them. And instead of going that route that I hear sometimes, well, that gen does this and that gen can't do this. said, you know what?

Wendy (10:55.015)
Absolutely.

Trish Appello (11:09.166)
Let's put us all together and let's do it together. So it's a multi-gen collaborative effort and primarily a female set, which I dedicate this to my daughter and all the daughters. I look at it as we are all daughters. We may not all be moms, we may not all be wives, but we're all daughters. And...

Kelli (11:14.062)
Yeah.

Trish Appello (11:35.7)
It's finding your voice and standing in your power. And I don't look at it as an anti-anyone. It's just really a pro-women concept and a pro-women project in film. Did you feel that as well, that it's just a pro-women, thank you.

Lori (11:47.344)
Yeah, nothing wrong with that. most definitely. Yes, most definitely. Yeah, I wanted to ask you, how was your personal experience, you know, as a daughter and a mother shaped the FU50s project? Like your relationship with your daughter and you being a mom, how has that...

Kelli (11:47.385)
Yeah.

Kelli (11:51.96)
Yeah, absolutely.

Trish Appello (12:02.228)
gosh, that's such a great question.

Trish Appello (12:09.143)
Well...

So much of it is dedicated to my mom. My mom, on my social media, I started social media and it is a pattern, like in the old time, patterns, buttermilk and Vogue. My mom used to make my clothes. I'm one of seven. She used to make a lot of our clothes. And that my social media has these two women talking about different things that really were not in women's favor.

Kelli (12:32.858)
Yeah.

Trish Appello (12:42.348)
So there's a 70s vibe to it, housecoats, just the kind of the embroidery of feel. And I really had my mom in mind when I was making this and dedicating it to her as well. With my daughter, I just learned so much from my daughter. And she, I'm just her biggest fan. And...

Lori (12:56.2)
and you're doing it,

Lori (13:08.71)
Yeah, it made me really think about, you know, the whole multi-generational thing, like how things were for my mom, and then how things were for me as a mom, and then how things are now for my daughter.

Kelli (13:25.018)
Mm-hmm.

Trish Appello (13:25.122)
Right. Yeah, and it's...

It's progressing where our daughters, there's just so much, know, there's in every generation, there's pros and cons that I just see in my daughter's generation. There is a, an acceptance, body acceptance, body positivity. And we could use that. We could use the body positivity. And, I wanted to hit on that. There was certain things. And if you noticed about when I was,

Kelli (13:49.22)
Sure.

Trish Appello (14:00.288)
in the mirror and I'm taking shots at myself, the hair, the belly. Sometimes more around women. I see that my age, I see them doing that. my God, the grays, my gosh, the wrinkles.

Kelli (14:15.256)
We do it every time we get online to do this podcast. We look at ourselves, we start telling each other, look at my lines and my forehead, you know. Right, right.

Lori (14:15.688)
We do it.

Lori (14:22.888)
Yeah.

Trish Appello (14:24.078)
It's sort of like, why? We have, I mean, the media played such a role in how we view ourselves and present ourselves. And that is one of the episodes is how the media is telling us to erase wrinkles and why aging should be celebrated. And instead it's, we're told that that's wrong. Younger is it.

Wendy (14:25.765)
All right.

Kelli (14:44.494)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Trish Appello (14:54.088)
you know, that's, I think deep inside our, the cells of years and years and years of being told to look a certain way and present yourself a certain way. And I do see the younger generation kind of breaking that. And that makes me happy.

Kelli (15:12.26)
Yeah, I agree.

Lori (15:12.55)
Most definitely. I just wanted to let the audience know I have on a housecoat Trish's, a few 50s. She has a scene where you can explain a little better Trish, but they're shopping for housecoats and she uses the housecoats as I kind of felt like the housecoat is like a metaphor for like the release.

Trish Appello (15:29.485)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (15:41.744)
of the restrictions that we place upon ourselves. And I think those are derived from society's perception of women. I think that in my mind, that's where you were trying to go with it. It's almost like donning the house coat and you know what? I'm going to put it on. It's comfortable. I like it.

Trish Appello (15:49.774)
100%. You got it.

Trish Appello (16:00.834)
that, well, I'm gonna, and we bedazzled them. We said, and that was, if you remember the line, it was, I'm gonna buy this house coat for the women who came before us, but were led to believe their worth was behind them. And, you know, that was that sparkle tie and the sparkle, you know, it was, we bedazzled them and celebrated the house coat instead of trying to, again,

Lori (16:06.128)
Yes! Yes!

Kelli (16:16.922)
Mmm.

Lori (16:17.596)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (16:26.151)
Yes.

Trish Appello (16:30.25)
say it's wrong, it's bad, it's this, it's that. Because do you remember maybe the nannies or your nannies and your aunts or your great aunts wearing house coats?

Lori (16:33.17)
Right.

Kelli (16:41.452)
My Nana, my grandmother, she was one of eight and there were only two boys, so there were six girls. They all, my great aunts, they all wore house coats. They all wore them.

Trish Appello (16:51.692)
Yeah. Yep.

Lori (16:53.296)
love a house code. I love a sweater. I love it. I love it. I

Wendy (16:55.774)
Lori still wears her house code.

Kelli (16:58.212)
Lori will absolutely rock a housecoat.

Lori (17:01.04)
My daughter who's in her 20s wears a house coat. We love the house coat. We have no problem. Will we go to Walmart in the house coat? Maybe if it's the right day and we're in the right frame.

Wendy (17:01.156)
You

Trish Appello (17:11.095)
you

Wendy (17:14.116)
You

Trish Appello (17:14.594)
You

Kelli (17:15.448)
tell you what she will do she will walk around the neighborhood with her curlers in her hair.

Lori (17:19.1)
Yes, I do. Yes, I do. Have any problem with it?

Wendy (17:19.411)
yes she will, yes she will.

Trish Appello (17:22.581)
I say I sometimes dress like a hungover college kid. I'm out there with the pants on backwards, the hair like, and I don't care. It's like, you know what? And that's the Effyou 50s too. I will touch on the house coats and why that was the episode.

Lori (17:32.572)
Yes. Yeah, all of them.

Kelli (17:34.318)
Yep.

Lori (17:38.086)
No, I don't care either.

Trish Appello (17:47.56)
It was because I was trying to figure out, this a documentary? Is this a series? Because when I went as UCLA, I had it as a 60 minute like dramedy with characters. Is this a parody? I mean, I love parody. I love SNL's parodies. They make me laugh. It's poking fun. It's showing the absurdity on things.

When I heard that statement that was on national news by a very prominent news network,

that Nikki Haley was past her prime at 51, it hit. was, that's where I'm starting. And for whatever reason, housecoats came into my head of, okay, now we got to roll it up and buy her housecoats and just, you know.

Lori (18:37.352)
I love it.

Kelli (18:41.114)
because that's how they pictured her at 51, you know.

Trish Appello (18:45.07)
It was, that newscaster has come out and he said wonderful things. I think it was a live moment. I don't, and I think that it wasn't his best moment, but he has come out and has said terrific things about women 50 and older. So, you know, we're all human. all, you know, can make a booboo and, you know, on, on network TV.

Not all of us, it's what I'm saying. It's not the, the yikes, the moment. It's the solution to it and how you react to it. And I think he reacted well and truly said what he had to say in apology form. But yeah, I looked at it as like, roll up your sleeves. It's time to put your, put your house coat on, tissues in one pocket, candies in the other.

Kelli (19:15.182)
Right.

Wendy (19:15.34)
Yeah.

Lori (19:16.06)
Yeah.

Kelli (19:26.138)
Yeah.

Lori (19:40.626)
Trish? Trish, I have something to show you.

Kelli (19:40.762)
Hard candies in the other, yep.

Trish Appello (19:41.986)
put the slippers on. we're packing tissues. Yeah, buy two house clothes, three pack of tissues. So.

Wendy (19:44.419)
haha

Lori (19:46.0)
in the pocket, sit in the pocket.

That's it. But there's nothing like, there's nothing like being out all day, working, doing whatever you're doing with your clothes on. And there's nothing like coming home and putting on your house coat. Some people it's sweats and a sweatshirt. Some people it's a robe. You know what I mean? It doesn't matter what it is. It's that, to me, it's that kind of, that release. Right. And I'm just going to be comfortable.

Wendy (19:50.211)
haha

Kelli (20:07.546)
That's my, yeah, that's me.

Trish Appello (20:10.434)
Right. That comfort that I'm home and I'm not going out. I'll fit bras off. Yep. Yes, I agree. And, and do you, and you know, I remember that the, the, the nannies and the aunts used to go out and go to like the butcher every single day and buy the, the, the dinner, the roast or whatever they buy and they go to the butcher. They'd have the house coat on and they put the coat off the house coat.

Kelli (20:15.598)
Yeah. Right. That's it. The bra comes off. Bra's off.

Lori (20:20.09)
Yeah, just fling it and you're good. Yeah.

Yeah!

Lori (20:35.837)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (20:40.366)
Yeah.

Trish Appello (20:40.812)
And the episode is called, the Coat Out of the House. So, yeah.

Lori (20:41.136)
huh.

Lori (20:47.836)
There you go.

Kelli (20:48.952)
Yeah.

Lori (20:50.6)
I have a funny story. My mother, we went food shopping one time and it was winter and she put her coat on and then we went to the food store and she got hot in the food store. She took her coat off and she had the dish towel. She put the dish towel on her shoulder. And I'm like, ma. She goes, ah, well, what are you going to do? And we laugh, but it was great. It was such a great moment.

Wendy (21:09.731)
hahaha hahaha

Kelli (21:11.322)
That's funny. Yeah.

Trish Appello (21:12.43)
That's so, I gotta share. We used to have this competition between classes and you used to have to go and, I think of like that was something that happened to me. We used to have to go and audition. Now this is in high school and I go and I'm auditioning and like the captain of the football team's like, Trish, what's on your back? And I'm like, I don't know what.

And he's like this and one of my friends pulls off a pair of underwear that was static clinging to my sweater.

Wendy (21:41.867)
Okay.

Lori (21:43.305)
yeah, great. It's great. Perfect. well, yep. Yeah, you got to roll with it.

Kelli (21:43.61)
static.

Trish Appello (21:46.402)
And that's when I learned like, well, you got to roll with it. You know what? You can hide in the corner or you can laugh it off. So.

Kelli (21:49.282)
You gotta roll with it. Yeah.

Wendy (21:49.643)
Yeah!

Kelli (21:53.55)
Yes. Yes.

Lori (21:53.638)
Yes, yes.

Wendy (21:56.288)
Yeah, static happens, So I wanted to ask you about your love of Bravo, because you've been actually to the clubhouse and you got to see Andy Cohen.

Trish Appello (21:57.836)
Yes, yeah. Yep.

Lori (21:57.864)
static happen.

Kelli (21:58.414)
Yes, for sure.

Lori (22:01.786)
And

Trish Appello (22:11.51)
I did and I got to meet Bobby Brady. mean, wait, Mike Lookaland? Mike Lookal? Mike Lookenland? Yes, Mike Lookenland. And Greg, Barry Williams was walking by and of course I'm screaming, And my friends are like.

Wendy (22:28.162)
haha

Trish Appello (22:32.044)
you know, stop, you know, cause it's, it's, is, it, was just happened meeting someone in this industry at a film festival who worked there and got me tickets. And two of my friends went and I did ask, you know, of course I, Andy, and he's any question, Andy. And he picks me and he goes, I said, why are you going to have the older ladies have a show? And he's like, have you been watching, Roni, New York, New York.

Wendy (22:57.737)
Shoo!

Trish Appello (23:00.352)
And I was like, all right, touche, because that's when the old cast was on. But yeah, I was just listening to your podcast about last week's Salt Lake City. And I do agree with a lot what you have to say. And I'm going to say this. Did you watch this week's Salt Lake City?

Kelli (23:03.279)
Yeah.

Wendy (23:03.464)
Right.

Wendy (23:13.086)
Okay.

Kelli (23:24.237)
I just finished it today.

Lori (23:25.384)
I didn't watch it yet.

Wendy (23:25.537)
I just finished it today also.

Trish Appello (23:30.152)
I would love more moments like the Mary and the Angie K moment.

Lori (23:35.748)
absolutely. Yes.

Wendy (23:35.81)
for sure.

Kelli (23:36.558)
Totally agree with you. This is what we want to see.

Trish Appello (23:37.89)
This is what I, you know.

Lori (23:41.138)
Yes.

Trish Appello (23:42.382)
That's what I don't, it's like programming. This is what women are like. They care for each other. They lift each other up. I'm gonna be honest, the tearing down, it's just getting old.

Lori (23:56.87)
Yes, very.

Kelli (23:56.888)
It's very old and it's been going on, in my personal opinion, I don't know how long you've been watching Bravo, but I've been watching, so did you watch like OC like from the beginning?

Wendy (23:56.926)
It is.

Trish Appello (24:02.859)
I've been watching Bravo. Yeah.

Wendy (24:04.47)
Yeah.

Trish Appello (24:07.084)
I didn't watch OC, Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, then New York, then Jersey. I watched Atlanta for a bit. Then I think someone pulled someone's wig off. And I was like, I can't watch that. I don't like getting physical. That's me. mean, I don't want, you're not beating off influenza. It didn't.

Wendy (24:23.22)
yes.

Yeah.

Kelli (24:29.688)
because it didn't start out this way. It didn't start out like that. It was just affluent women from Orange County, California, who had friendships established. Not all of them were friends, but they were all connected in some way. And that's what it was. We just watched these lavish lifestyles.

Lori (24:29.917)
Yeah.

Trish Appello (24:45.868)
Right.

Trish Appello (24:50.51)
And it's great to just have that, you don't have to think TV, because we all need to kind of just chill out and just watch someone else's life for a bit. But it's gotten a little too toxic, not even a little, a lot. Where I'm like, watching and I now don't watch a lot of them because of it, because of the toxic and the women.

Lori (25:06.204)
toxic.

Kelli (25:08.324)
Yeah. Yeah.

Trish Appello (25:20.064)
making up stories about the other women and their businesses and their marriages. Just like that. Ladies, don't go there.

Kelli (25:24.494)
their husbands, their marriage, their kids. Right.

Wendy (25:29.982)
It's middle school. gives off middle school. These are mature women with careers, with families. just, like you said, we watched these from the very beginning because we liked the family dynamics. We liked the touching moments. I love to see the scenes with the children. I like to see them interacting as family. I New Jersey started as family with the Manzos and then, and that's what we loved. And it's not that anymore. And even

Trish Appello (25:32.803)
Yes.

Trish Appello (25:43.085)
Mm-hmm.

Trish Appello (25:52.814)
Oh, 100%. Right.

No, it's not, and it's sad.

Wendy (25:59.75)
It's, it is sad and we, we pretty much say that every week. Like we miss, we miss the real moments. We're tired of the backstabbing. We're tired of the overproducing. It's like, we just want to see. Yes.

Kelli (26:10.81)
All right, everybody's producing themselves.

Trish Appello (26:10.83)
Mm-hmm.

Trish Appello (26:15.222)
And then the social media fights, like, come on, like, stop. yeah, well, we'll think. But I even have to.

Wendy (26:19.294)
Yeah.

Kelli (26:19.322)
I'm guilty of getting into a few of those.

Lori (26:22.011)
Hehehehe

Kelli (26:25.828)
Just don't ask me about Teresa because I have very strong opinions.

Trish Appello (26:31.054)
Don't ask me, it's, you know what, I'm not gonna say which housewife, but I would say to my husband, the one that was just helping us technically, and I would say, can you get me five minutes in a room with blah, blah, blah? Because I just wanna yell at her for my birthday. Like that was my birthday present. And I'm like, that's not good either.

Kelli (26:46.978)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (26:52.644)
Wouldn't that be great if we could send them cameos of us telling them exactly what we think of them?

Trish Appello (26:58.684)
gosh.

Lori (26:59.26)
That'd great.

Wendy (26:59.634)
that's a great business. Why don't we start that?

Trish Appello (27:02.251)
Yeah.

Kelli (27:02.424)
All right, listen, edit this out so we can do this and nobody knows about it.

Wendy (27:06.752)
You want to hear a funny story? So I was with a friend of mine and we went to LA for this expo. And while we were there, she's also a huge Housewives fan. She said, let's go to Sir restaurant and let's go to Tom Tom because she watches the house like I do. So her and I, go to Sir and we see, who do we see in Sir? We saw a couple of people.

Lori (27:06.79)
And nobody knows. Nobody takes it.

Trish Appello (27:25.838)
Hello?

Wendy (27:35.209)
But then we go to TomTom and Lisa Vanderpump's son, Max, is at TomTom. We saw Tom Sandoval, we saw Tom Schwartz, but Lisa's son, Max, is there. And my friend has very strong opinions about the way Lisa Vanderpump conducts herself. So she is telling her son, Max, so she says to Max, like, you need to tell your mom, and I'm like,

Trish Appello (27:40.494)
Mm-hmm.

Trish Appello (28:02.476)
Now. Now. How am I going to kick this out?

Wendy (28:02.581)
my gosh, what are you doing? you can't, like you can't, you can't, you can't say that. What are you doing? Like this is his mom. Like this is his mom. no, no, he did not receive it. He did not receive it. And as a matter of fact, someone like from TomTom like went over and like moved us away from him. I was just like, what? Like what?

Kelli (28:03.898)
We're gonna get kicked out of here.

Trish Appello (28:11.554)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (28:12.75)
Did he receive it? was he?

Trish Appello (28:25.612)
Yes!

Kelli (28:27.844)
Wow.

Trish Appello (28:28.654)
It's like, security! You have Meredith's voice. Security! I can't see it there.

Kelli (28:31.226)
You

Lori (28:31.858)
security.

Wendy (28:32.03)
What are you doing? Oh my God, right. Yes. But I never laugh so hard. I'm like, what are you doing? He is not going to go tell his mother what you think. Like stop.

Kelli (28:39.396)
to the waiter who was just bringing them water.

Lori (28:40.678)
Yeah.

Trish Appello (28:50.624)
I, all right. Flew to LA, went to Villa Blanca. Another time, went to Pump. Happened to be in Saks Fifth Avenue, walking around like, all right, I'm not gonna be able to buy any of this. Who do I see? Lisa Vanderpump. And I'm like this, running across the store. Lisa! I have 10 dogs with her. And I said, Lisa!

Wendy (29:12.252)
Really?

Wendy (29:16.094)
haha

Trish Appello (29:20.504)
I flew across the country to come, I'm going to pump tonight. And she goes, she's so smart. goes, okay, I'll see you there. So I go to pump and I'm like, is Lisa here? We spoke today, we spoke earlier. Yeah, she knows I'm coming. And they're like, yeah, yeah. And they're like, no, she's not here. I'm like, She said that's her go-to to get, all right, I'll see you there later. And yeah.

Lori (29:33.553)
Yeah. She's expecting me.

Wendy (29:34.461)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Lori (29:47.634)
That's fun.

Kelli (29:47.844)
That's funny.

Trish Appello (29:49.77)
And Summer House, you girls watch Summer House?

Kelli (29:52.062)
yeah.

Wendy (29:52.364)
yes, yes. I can't wait.

Lori (29:53.0)
Not me.

Trish Appello (29:53.902)
Wait till you hear this. We always, my husband and I are watching summer house and we always wanted, I'm like, you know what I want? I want to be a background at the parties. You know, when they like open the gates and all the extras come in. So we're out in the South fork of Long Island is Montauk, Montauk where it's Montauk, the Hamptons and Montauk. And my husband says,

Kelli (30:08.043)
absolutely.

Trish Appello (30:23.202)
You want to go find the summer house? And when he said that in Facebook, popped up that Kyle was DJing literally three miles away from us. And we went and someone came up to my husband and said, are you Jesse Solomon's father?

Kelli (30:43.534)
That is so funny.

Trish Appello (30:45.134)
And we were there, they all came in and filmed. And it's on, yes. And I talked to Carl and I just let him know how much, proud I was, know, like the doing the mom like, you know, way to go. You know, we, yeah, we're proud of you, you know, keep it up because your voice matters. Your voice matters and your, your sobriety matters to a lot of us. So, you know, thank you for sharing your voice. So I'll send you those pictures, but I'm like, I, I manifested that and I got it.

Wendy (30:48.524)
that's great.

Wendy (30:56.409)
Yeah, we're... yeah.

Kelli (30:59.416)
Yeah, he did the right thing. Yeah.

Yeah, for sure.

Kelli (31:13.026)
You did!

Trish Appello (31:14.71)
So I'm gonna manifest a lot of things going forward.

Lori (31:14.856)
That's great.

Kelli (31:17.219)
Yeah.

Wendy (31:18.225)
That's awesome. So Kyle was DJing at Jenkinson's by us in Point Pleasant and Kelly and I did not realize it until it was Memorial Day weekend. Memorial Day weekend, Friday morning.

Trish Appello (31:24.462)
We're here.

Kelli (31:30.862)
It was a Friday morning. Jenkinsons, they start at like 7 a.m. or some crazy hour. Yeah.

Trish Appello (31:36.799)
okay. It's like the beach party. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, I get it.

Wendy (31:38.415)
Yes.

Lori (31:38.587)
Yeah.

Kelli (31:41.082)
We were at work and then we're screenshots to each other.

Wendy (31:44.861)
and we're like, my gosh, we should have been there. Yeah, cause.

Kelli (31:46.776)
Yeah, we didn't know. This year we know that we'll take off just in case somebody-

Wendy (31:51.289)
Yes, we will definitely take off. My sons used to work at Jenkinsons and they were security there because I have three boys and the older ones worked there. So one time my son texted me that the housewives are here filming. So Kelly and I were like, my gosh, we got to dress, we got to go. Because it's, you know, six miles away. So we get dressed, we run to the boardwalk. He's like, they're gone. I'm like, what? We did.

Trish Appello (31:52.302)
Yeah.

Trish Appello (32:00.11)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (32:17.172)
Just mess them. Just mess them.

Trish Appello (32:17.344)
Lori (32:18.07)
No.

Trish Appello (32:19.79)
They're filming everywhere. There's filming going on everywhere.

Wendy (32:21.475)
I know, I know. We do know where they film and we, I don't want to say stalk, but we do try and make reservations or we hang out. Yes. Yeah.

Kelli (32:23.182)
Yeah.

Kelli (32:28.164)
We hunt, we don't call it stalking, we call it housewife hunting.

Trish Appello (32:28.728)
Okay. wait, wait, where it tracks? Right, it tracks? Is that that, is that Jersey of the where everything happens it tracks? the rail house? Rails, right, right.

Wendy (32:37.116)
the rail house? no, the rails. Yeah, that's up north. That's up north. So we go to the place. Yeah, we go to the places down the shore. Like there's a place in Bayhead they like to go to, Charlie's. Yeah, but we have met the Jersey housewives. We've met Melissa. We've met Danielle. We've met Rachel. I have not met Marge. met...

Kelli (32:38.702)
RAILS

That's a no- yeah.

Kelli (32:48.269)
Yeah.

Trish Appello (32:54.766)
You

Trish Appello (32:58.253)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (32:59.182)
We have not met Margaret or Teresa and I have no interest, but we have met Dolores.

Wendy (33:04.155)
We met Dolores. Yes, we met Dolores at Beacon 70. We also had an inside track there that she was there for brunch. So we got dressed really quick and we ran there to meet her. That's what we do. Yeah.

Trish Appello (33:05.676)
Mm-hmm.

Trish Appello (33:14.567)
It's like that house hunting, it's housewife hunting.

Kelli (33:19.424)
Exactly. That's what we call it.

Lori (33:19.654)
Yes, exactly.

Trish Appello (33:25.176)
That's funny. But that's your job. mean, it's part of your, part of your biz. So I, right. Yeah. Yes. I would do, I would use that one too. Yeah. It's, you know, just have more positive stories. mean, that with, with Angie K and Mary and just the looks on their faces, I felt that. And I want more of that. So.

Kelli (33:29.432)
That's what we tell our husbands.

Wendy (33:31.022)
Yes!

Wendy (33:44.123)
House.

Kelli (33:47.609)
Yes.

Wendy (33:47.717)
I do too.

Wendy (33:52.005)
I do too.

Trish Appello (33:52.718)
If Andy is watching this, podcast, then you know what? Listen to us four ladies. think, I think maybe changing it up a bit for kinder, gentler and funny. Just be funny. Enjoy and not, don't eat, they don't have to be dressed up in like cuckoo outfits either.

Kelli (34:04.322)
right. And I think

Lori (34:04.636)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (34:10.106)
No, we also love... Go ahead.

Kelli (34:10.668)
No, and I think that this is the problem with the new New York. You have good, successful, genuine women on the show, but you're not focusing on anything they're doing. You know, to be those women, you're focusing on the cattiness and the, and we say it every week. We blame the producers. They're, they're just, they're not focusing on the right things with these women.

Trish Appello (34:22.254)
Mm-hmm.

Trish Appello (34:29.314)
Right. Yeah, I agree.

Trish Appello (34:37.954)
Well, I agree with you. And I think that they might need to pivot as Ross would say, because I know I'm getting a little bit fatigued from it.

Kelli (34:47.353)
guests.

Kelli (34:54.552)
Yes, agreed.

Lori (34:54.952)
Well, you know what I think Trish? I think that they need you as the producer. There you go. There you go.

Kelli (34:59.937)
Mm.

Trish Appello (35:00.566)
all right. Yeah. You know what? Well, like Andy says, like when he's in the clubhouse and on Watch What Happens Live, he says to the ladies, like, if you're feeling mad, like if someone's feeling mad at someone, so lean into that. Lean into it. He wants them to lean into it. He wants them to get the drama going and the cattiness. And I think...

Wendy (35:02.777)
Yeah.

Lori (35:28.872)
That's not a great portrayal of women. We say this all the time. mean, women are so much more than that. Like, our relationships are so much more.

Trish Appello (35:30.158)
No, it's not. No, it's, we're not beating our friends up. I'm not trying to, you know, take my friend's business down and calling, you know, Alibaba, you know, it's like, it's, it's, it's a lot. It's a lot. So.

Kelli (35:31.224)
Right.

Kelli (35:46.04)
No.

Wendy (35:47.674)
Thanks

Lori (35:50.332)
Yeah, yeah, and I don't think it's

Kelli (35:51.162)
Well, Carol Radzowil said it best. She said Andy is as rich as he is off the backs of all these women. And she's 100 % correct.

Wendy (35:51.234)
It is a lot.

Trish Appello (36:01.014)
Yeah. you know what? Carol was one of my favorites. You know, I liked that kind of smart, you know, doesn't it's middle of the middle, not the one who's up here, but not the one who's not doing anything. Carol kind of had to keep the glue of the crazy, you know, she was good at that. and you know, you find that in a couple, a couple of different of the,

Kelli (36:03.693)
Me too.

Wendy (36:04.004)
you

Kelli (36:14.775)
Right.

Kelli (36:20.408)
Yes.

Trish Appello (36:26.828)
Like I find Heather is that for Salt Lake. find that like.

Garcelle does that, I think, in Beverly Hills. And I think Baz is just like, what the heck did I stumble on? Is this kindergarten? What is going on here? This is a very accomplished, smart woman. And she's looking at someone texting someone else's husband, like, wait, what is this?

Kelli (36:44.75)
Yeah.

Wendy (36:45.112)
Yeah.

Lori (36:45.256)
So literally, Yes.

Kelli (36:48.516)
Yeah.

Lori (36:58.396)
Yeah, what is going on?

Kelli (36:58.554)
Did you watch this week's episode? The poor woman's trying to recover from surgery and they keep knocking on her door trying to recruit her to be on the other side. Like let the woman heal for crying out loud.

Trish Appello (37:02.006)
I...

Lori (37:03.273)
Door. Right. Yeah. It's crazy. Right?

Trish Appello (37:07.266)
She's like, ow, ow. I know. mean, it's, and, and, Ronwyn, ooh. That, it's, I feel cringy for her. It's, it's, is it worth it? Is it worth to put your husband's secrets out?

Lori (37:19.258)
yeah.

Kelli (37:25.454)
Yeah.

Kelli (37:36.644)
I know.

Lori (37:37.062)
Yeah, I always say it's to me it seems like a really crappy way to make a living being a housewife. just doesn't, I'd rather just sit here in my little three bedroom ranch with no drama.

Trish Appello (37:37.534)
It's like, that wouldn't be worth it to me. I agree.

Kelli (37:44.015)
Yeah.

Kelli (37:51.427)
Yeah.

Trish Appello (37:51.564)
Mm-hmm.

I would not welcome that drama and I would not, you know, being an actor or actress, I would get postings for reality. You know, they come, it's like a scroll and I'd be like, no, I just couldn't, even if I watch it, I just would not participate in it. Like what you give up, I honestly feel you don't get back what you give up.

Wendy (38:11.417)
Okay.

Lori (38:20.092)
What you put out now.

Trish Appello (38:21.206)
what you put out, what you're giving up your family, your kids, your secrets. I don't know. How much money is worth that?

Lori (38:25.306)
Everything,

Kelli (38:26.156)
Now, if you did, right, if you were interested, do you think your husband and your kids would have been?

Wendy (38:29.431)
Right.

Kelli (38:36.826)
would have wanted to participate or do you think they would have been like, absolutely not? Yeah, I don't think my family would want to participate at all.

Wendy (38:37.016)
supportive.

Trish Appello (38:38.426)
No. No. No. Especially my kids. They're like, yeah, no, I don't, know, they're, no. Yeah.

Kelli (38:46.008)
Right.

Lori (38:47.304)
Yeah, no.

Wendy (38:48.089)
Thank

Kelli (38:51.565)
Yeah.

Wendy (38:51.657)
No. So one of the things we always talked about that we liked was when we first started doing this, Lori didn't watch Bravo. She wasn't a Housewives fan. So Kelly and I would, we would, the three of us would walk through the neighborhood. We really started walking a lot during COVID because there was nothing else to do. We literally are neighbors. Like we are one house away from each other. Like that's how close of neighbors we are.

Trish Appello (39:01.634)
Mm-hmm.

Trish Appello (39:12.961)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (39:13.177)
No.

Wendy (39:15.371)
And Kelly and I would be talking about Housewives and Lori's always like walking ahead. So then we'd bring our kids with us to walk with Lori so that Kelly and I could talk about Housewives. So when we first started this, Crappy Lake came on. So we said, you've got to watch, like Lori, watch Crappy Lake. And we loved Crappy Lake. did, I loved everything about it. I don't know if you saw it, but I just, it was Luanne and Sonia. It was fun. It was...

Lori (39:24.328)
Just really shut up about the house.

Trish Appello (39:36.62)
I didn't watch it.

Lori (39:38.418)
So cute.

Wendy (39:42.521)
It was just fun and entertaining. was like mindless humor. There was no fighting.

Lori (39:45.576)
There's no fighting.

Kelli (39:47.598)
Right, no fighting.

Trish Appello (39:49.23)
I felt they were going to expose two women over 50. I felt like Luanne and Sonia were going to have to, like, we have to really bring it. We have to do these absurd things to get viewers. And that's why I was like, I didn't want to that. I didn't watch it.

Wendy (40:07.96)
You didn't watch it. Well, mean, Luanne does her cabaret show, which is very successful and

Trish Appello (40:14.35)
And I would go to Lou Ann's Cabaret

Wendy (40:17.036)
I would too. I would too. you know, Sonia, listen, I think Sonia and Luanne have a very good dynamic. I think that they're like, like fricking frack. And it was innocent. wasn't, it wasn't, I didn't think it was. I didn't think it was exploiting them. I think that they were having fun. I think that they were helping the town. I mean, they did help the town. It brought the town tourism. And I really wanted to see them

Trish Appello (40:28.514)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (40:28.655)
Yes.

Trish Appello (40:36.59)
I'm glad to hear that.

Kelli (40:38.392)
Yeah.

Kelli (40:42.17)
Yeah.

Wendy (40:45.686)
you know, do another season. I know it was the same production company that did A Simple Life and then Paris and Nikki decided that they all of sudden want to do their second Simple Life. So the other one got axed. But I said what I would have loved to see is the people that they met in Crappy Lake to bring them to New York and show them New York side, kind of like they did with like that show Wife Swap, where you would take people and put them in a different environment. I would have loved to see that side of it, you know?

Trish Appello (41:08.792)
Right.

Lori (41:09.852)
Yeah.

Kelli (41:11.534)
Yeah.

Trish Appello (41:11.671)
Is it?

Yeah. Is is crappy like really a lake crappy? Is it called crappy lake? really? Wow. That's funny. Yeah. Well, all right. I'm going to watch it because that's, that's the reason why I didn't because I'm like, they're going to make them do all these crazy stuff and I'm, and, they.

Wendy (41:17.72)
It's town. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (41:21.554)
Yeah, it was, it was really cute. It should, it was.

Kelli (41:22.446)
Like Schitt's Creek.

Lori (41:31.797)
No, wasn't like that. It was good.

Kelli (41:33.538)
No, I mean, they had jobs to do while they were there. They had things to accomplish in a certain amount of time, but it was not exploitive. really was fun.

Trish Appello (41:38.958)
Mm-hmm.

Trish Appello (41:43.308)
All right, good. All right, good. I'm going to watch it then. Because that's what I want. I want to be entertained. don't, you know, sometimes what am I go to when I'm, you know, voicing my opinion is so-and-so is not entertaining or entertainment. So-and-so's behavior is not entertainment. That's it. I'm not, but I'm just calling it like I see it. I'm not, you know, taking a poke at her, her,

Wendy (41:43.443)
No, it was not. Yeah.

Lori (41:46.246)
That was cute. Yes. Yes.

Kelli (41:48.804)
Yes. Yes.

Trish Appello (42:11.168)
looks or anything like that just that it's not entertainment when they're so mean.

Kelli (42:14.456)
Right, right. When it gets too dark, it's just not like you said, it's not entertaining anymore.

Wendy (42:16.428)
Yeah.

Lori (42:16.594)
Yeah, they're nasty. That's no good.

Trish Appello (42:23.338)
Right. So.

Lori (42:23.494)
No, no.

Lori (42:27.784)
But I wanted to let you know, I love your tattoo.

Trish Appello (42:30.67)
Oh, and it's real. I did. It says the Effyou 50s.

Kelli (42:32.964)
What does it say?

Lori (42:32.964)
I love that. I saw that on one of your social media posts. She has it on the inside of her wrist. And it's in that great Lake Typewriter font. It's really cute.

Kelli (42:39.386)
I love it!

Trish Appello (42:41.898)
Yeah. Right. I, it's funny because when I was working, you know, that it was the first time I ever wrote a For, yeah. First time ever wrote a script. I've read scripts, but I've never wrote one. And it's a, it's a process and you know, it's, so I went looking for someone to help me, you know, online script writing. And I stumbled across the.

Kelli (42:51.994)
Wow.

Wendy (42:52.001)
I didn't know that.

Trish Appello (43:11.63)
the writer coach, okay? And I reached out to him said, I'm looking for someone. I have to write a script. It's probably 14 pages. It's a page a minute usually. So it's 14 to 20 pages of, you the runtime of the show is 20 minutes. And I wound up being interviewed by him to see if he'd take me on. And I'm telling him the story and he's a guy from Brooklyn. He's an, you know, I grew up in Brooklyn. I was in LA. Now I'm here and I, know, on the East Coast.

I said, you might get this. It's like the women go buy, go buy house coats. And he goes, Trish, my mother wore a house coat. My wife was the only one who could pick it out for her. She knew exactly what to get her. This was Roger S.H. Schulman, who is the Oscar nominated co-screenwriter of Shrek, who coached me. And how I got there?

Lori (43:48.289)
hahahaha

Kelli (43:48.73)
Ha

Kelli (44:04.396)
Wow.

Wendy (44:04.533)
Wow.

Lori (44:07.898)
nice.

Trish Appello (44:09.964)
how I stumbled, even your podcast came in my feed on Facebook. So your Facebook ads are working and that's how I would see it. Just wound up in my path and he writes the testimonial on my Facebook page, I mean, on my website. It's like this, like, know, one of seven from Long Island, New York, you know, grew up in a cape of 1200 square foot cape.

Kelli (44:18.927)
Yeah.

Trish Appello (44:39.662)
is working with an oscar-nominated, he coached me he can't write because of you wga writers guild, but he coached me and He took me to the next level. He helped me get he helped me get to the next level He coached me to the next level and I also I also got to tell him. This is a fabulous fabulous little note I also got to tell him because as you know when you know, we have the minivans with the the

Wendy (44:48.149)
Right.

Lori (44:56.424)
That's awesome.

Wendy (44:57.6)
That's amazing.

Kelli (44:58.84)
Yeah.

Trish Appello (45:07.426)
the VCR player for the kids to watch the TV at the back. And it was a saving grace. And when Shrek came out, I put it in. My son was like one, my daughter was three or maybe two and four. And I would write around 10 and the wind star with Shrek playing. I never physically saw Shrek at that time. I listened to it. And I would be in the front seat laughing. And I said, that's a testimony to you, Roger, and the writing team.

Wendy (45:09.974)
Ha

Kelli (45:10.283)
yeah.

Trish Appello (45:36.79)
of how wonderful you wrote and of course the actors saying the words, but I would be hysterical laughing in the front. I couldn't wait to see it. And I got to tell the writer and that that's like, okay, I'm done. I'm done. You know what? Yup. I hit my mark. I hit my quota. I'm done, but I'm not done. So I'm still pitching the series and we'll see where it takes it. I submitted to a series fest is the big series fest in Denver and we'll see what happens.

Kelli (45:44.76)
Yeah.

Lori (45:47.826)
Get out for awesome.

Kelli (45:49.305)
Yeah.

Wendy (45:50.014)
Yeah, that's amazing.

Kelli (45:53.721)
Yeah.

Trish Appello (46:07.232)
And I also submitted to pitch the pitching. I'm that's the, part of the business is now what I'm, I'm concentrating on is pitching and moving the project forward. So I have only filmed one, but I have an outline of eight. And one, the number two is, and it could have been a filmed my, all my girlfriends from high school. get together at my house, around my Island.

Wendy (46:07.318)
Okay.

Lori (46:16.818)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (46:16.856)
Yeah. How many episodes do you have?

Kelli (46:25.978)
That's great.

Lori (46:26.34)
okay.

Trish Appello (46:36.518)
And every one of them is like, that guy, remember that guy? He went out with that girl. They lived on that street. We can't remember nouns. what I, yes. And that's an, I'm like, this is an episode. And so that's Metapods brain. Where have my nouns gone?

Lori (46:42.3)
Uh-huh.

Kelli (46:46.33)
But everybody knows who the other one's talking about.

Lori (46:50.139)
Yes.

Kelli (46:53.402)
Absolutely.

Lori (46:58.279)
I like it.

Trish Appello (46:58.488)
how the seasoned gals, which I call us, know, women of a certain age, we're seasoned to perfection and we still have a lot to offer. That's the whole thing, is that we still have our knowledge. You know, we ran households, we're still running households, worked outside the house. We multi-task, like there's nobody can multi-task like a mom.

Lori (47:18.616)
Nope. That is a fact. That is a cold hard fact.

Wendy (47:18.822)
That's a fact.

Kelli (47:20.068)
Yeah.

Trish Appello (47:20.59)
So, yeah, and a lot of people, I've been, like I said, I coined the phrase the Effyou 50s and a lot of people started, I knew I wasn't alone. Let's just say that from Facebook, from people on Facebook and friends and talking, yeah, I'm getting there, I don't care. My mother-in-law said I looked fat. I was like, you know, who cares what you think? Like you finally got to the point where you're using our voice and saying, no.

Nope, sorry, you can't say that to me. I'm healthy boundaries. And I love when I see the younger girls get there quicker.

Wendy (47:51.187)
Right.

Kelli (47:56.654)
Yes.

Lori (47:57.03)
Yes, that's very satisfying. Yes.

Trish Appello (47:59.51)
Yes. So, yes. So we'll see where it goes. I don't know. I'm, didn't even know I'd get this far. That's, and I would walk in my house and I'd be like, what the heck do I think I'm doing? Am I out of my mind? And then, but the, the, the doubt voice was loud, but the confident voice was louder.

Kelli (47:59.577)
Yes.

Lori (48:08.956)
Yeah.

Trish Appello (48:26.03)
And there was a lot of times I wanted to say, all right, I'm done. no. it's going to rain. I'm not going to do it then. You know, just make up any excuse not to do it. And there was something inside me said, Nope. And it was my age and me being the Effyou 50 say, no, how can you not live the life that you're telling and, and, and you have on your wrist? How can you not do that? And you have to do this. And I did. And it was the

Wendy (48:32.948)
Thanks.

Kelli (48:33.476)
Sure, any excuse.

Kelli (48:49.881)
now.

Trish Appello (48:56.064)
a great ride and I love every minute of it. And that's why I want all of us as you girls are doing this podcast, gals, I know it's called Girls, gals are doing this podcast. This is fun, right? This is...

Wendy (48:59.444)
Good for you.

Kelli (49:08.362)
Absolutely. This is what we say every week, like, because, you know, social media people could be terrible. Horrible. But we're still having fun. We're having fun. We're watching these shows anyway. We're drinking wine anyway. We would be hanging out with each other at our houses anyway. This is what we're doing because it's fun.

Wendy (49:08.67)
Absolutely.

Right.

Trish Appello (49:16.098)
Horrible.

Wendy (49:17.298)
Right.

Trish Appello (49:20.654)
And I say.

Wendy (49:20.712)
Right.

Trish Appello (49:25.293)
Right.

Lori (49:29.35)
Yes. Yeah.

Trish Appello (49:30.186)
And I say, you know, we don't take criticism from someone we wouldn't take advice from. Live by that. You know, if you get some bad criticism on social media, just like, listen. Yeah.

Kelli (49:37.626)
That's a great motto,

Lori (49:42.997)
we laugh. We laugh hysterically.

Wendy (49:44.583)
I totally laugh. There's a couple, we have a couple, and it's interesting thing is they're only mostly males. There's a couple male trolls that feel the need to comment on our looks. They call us hags. There's one guy who keeps telling me that I need to wear makeup. look like I'm anemic. I'm just like, give me a break.

Trish Appello (49:50.126)
Really?

Lori (49:51.228)
Yes, we have some men.

Lori (49:56.903)
Yes.

Trish Appello (49:56.91)
my god, I'd have a freaking field day with that.

Trish Appello (50:07.886)
this is what I'm saying to those girls. Bring it boys.

Lori (50:08.744)
But it's hysterical. We laugh so hard.

Wendy (50:16.275)
Yeah, I'm like, you gotta be kidding me. Right, right.

Lori (50:16.381)
Yeah.

Kelli (50:16.398)
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And the funniest thing is they don't even show their faces.

Trish Appello (50:22.656)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's, that's bad. That's, that's disgusting.

Kelli (50:25.241)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (50:26.759)
Yeah.

Lori (50:26.866)
But we do have lot of fun with the podcast and we do some other things besides Housewives and it's a lot of fun. have a good time with it and I think it's very good for all of us.

Trish Appello (50:40.046)
And it's, you know, I don't know how, you know, the kids seem like they're about my kid's ages. You still, you know, maybe they're starting to move out or what have you, but you're, it's your turn. It's your time. It's mommy's time. And why not, instead of just, you know, looking out for the mailman, do a podcast, you know, write a script, do a movie, celebrate, celebrate what, celebrate what.

Kelli (50:51.076)
Yes. Yes.

Lori (50:51.548)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (50:52.634)
Absolutely.

Lori (50:59.494)
Yeah!

Trish Appello (51:06.336)
What you had did, I mean, the women in, if you watch the film, the women, there was a panel of women. One was a doctor of nursing. One was a lawyer. One was a psychotherapist. All my friends, psychotherapist got her degree at 48. The doctor of nursing got her doctorate in her 60s. She goes, she and the lawyer started her practice.

Kelli (51:29.262)
Wow.

Trish Appello (51:34.458)
in her late mid to late thirties. Also had kids first, raised the kids. And I wanted that part to be part of this series because sometimes you don't know what you're going through. And I literally went to the nurse practitioner who was my nurse practitioner. And I said, I'm getting this like, kind of like, you know, I don't care what that one says.

And I coined it the Effyou 50s. says, well, you know, scientifically, you know, your estrogen is decreasing, but your testosterone is becoming more prominent in your body. And I literally said this to her, said, this is what it feels like to be a guy.

Kelli (52:17.274)
Ha ha!

Lori (52:17.905)
Ha!

Trish Appello (52:19.466)
This is effing great. And I said the full word right there. And I knew I said, this is, you know, we're having a transformation and, look at Hollywood, Hollywood, New York times just wrote, Hollywood's having a hot flash. Look who the it girls are. It's Jean, Jean Smart from Hacks, Michelle, you, Jamie Lee Curtis.

Lori (52:24.188)
There you go.

Wendy (52:25.126)
Hmm.

Trish Appello (52:46.242)
They're doing a remake of the Golden Girls with TNFA, Amy Poehler.

Kelli (52:49.796)
Yes, Tina Fey, Maya Rudolph.

Wendy (52:54.794)
that's gonna be great.

Trish Appello (52:56.888)
So the ladies who were like rocking it, know how Hollywood always said it was an it girl? The it girls are over a certain age and they are getting, about Matlock? Kathy Bates said, Matlock. It's these shows are, it's our time. And I'm glad I'm here. I'm glad I'm here for it.

Kelli (53:06.436)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (53:10.096)
Right, with Kathy Bates, right.

Kelli (53:21.273)
Yeah.

Wendy (53:21.594)
Yeah. And I'm glad you stumbled upon us so we got a chance to talk to you and, you know, yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Kelli (53:25.72)
Yeah, this was great.

Trish Appello (53:25.95)
Anytime, anytime. I'll come talk housewives. I'll do the talk.

Kelli (53:31.097)
Yes!

Lori (53:31.208)
yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

Wendy (53:33.626)
Yeah. So if people want to follow you, where do they go?

Trish Appello (53:38.36)
You know, let's go with my website, which is Trish, Apello.com, T-R-I-S-H-A-P-P-E-L-L-O. It has all my social media links. Things are happening in social media. One might be going, people might be leaving one. So I'm kind of just sitting tight on social media.

Wendy (53:58.482)
Right.

Trish Appello (54:03.9)
we are posting, but, we are on Instagram, Facebook and we were going to do Tik TOK, but we're not sure if we're doing Tik TOK cause it might not be there on Sunday. yeah, yeah. So I'm, I'm kind of waiting to everything just, you know, simmers down and then we're, we're, going to launch a, a really, fun campaign. And it's, and what it is, is these women who, look, are wearing house coats. And it's like one of these old time patterns.

Kelli (54:12.504)
Yeah, give it a couple days.

Wendy (54:14.672)
hahahahah

Kelli (54:19.428)
Yeah.

Trish Appello (54:33.142)
And they're saying things to each other. They're having a conversation and the conversation is, know, did you know that women couldn't get a credit card until 1973 without their husband cosigning or a male or a male cosigning and their father cosigned. And the other woman responds, and they also couldn't get a mortgage either. You know, just simple things. Like 70s wasn't that long ago. I was, I was around.

Lori (54:46.994)
Co-signing,

Kelli (54:59.64)
Mm-mm.

Lori (54:59.752)
No, I saw that on your social media. I loved it.

Wendy (54:59.865)
No.

Trish Appello (55:03.814)
So we're continuing on that path, but, uh, and that's Effyou 50s, E, the Effyou, T H E E F F. God, I forgot. Wait, hold on. Oh, you five. Oh, and then an S that's why I go to Trish Pella.com and we have all our links and. Oh, thank you ladies.

Lori (55:14.61)
Why owe you?

Kelli (55:14.808)
Why are you? Why are you?

Wendy (55:16.048)
And why are you?

Kelli (55:22.572)
And we'll put your website in our. Absolutely.

Wendy (55:24.29)
Yes, yes, we'll put it, yeah.

Trish Appello (55:27.15)
And I want to, now I'm going to put yours, I already tagged you on my Facebook page and I'll definitely share and promote your podcast as well.

Kelli (55:37.69)
Thank you, we appreciate that.

Lori (55:37.896)
I wanted to tell you, I loved your little skit thing where you were doing things as if you were working in the grocery store. I loved that. I loved it.

Trish Appello (55:40.224)
No, not a problem.

Trish Appello (55:49.906)
you so, okay. That was early on. That was early on. I appreciate that because I love that one too. That's one, that's a, and because we all met that woman. We've all met that woman at the grocery store who's telling us, you don't want to buy that. No, you don't need that.

Lori (55:57.382)
That was great. That was great. That would be me if I worked in a garage.

Wendy (56:04.388)
Hahaha!

Lori (56:07.036)
That would be me. Yeah. Yes. Yes.

Right, yeah, yeah. Right, yeah.

Trish Appello (56:15.662)
You getting more donuts? No, come on. You don't need all those donuts. We've met that woman. Well, maybe we're related to that woman.

Lori (56:20.644)
It's great. I loved it. Yes, I love it. Yes.

Kelli (56:24.324)
Yeah, yeah, I'm sure.

Lori (56:29.288)
Yeah, but I thought that was great. I love that. Yeah, that was great. That was great.

Trish Appello (56:31.202)
Thank you for that. I appreciate that, Lori. I, you know, I like seeing, that's how I reached out. saw women who I, they look like we can all be girlfriends and neighbors and friends and Jersey. I'm from New York. So, yeah. Yeah, we're neighbors. Yes. Yes. Yes. The Northeast. So.

Kelli (56:41.024)
Absolutely.

Lori (56:42.128)
Yep. Yep.

Yep. Of the same tribe, of the same tribe, most definitely. Yes. Yes.

Wendy (56:45.456)
We're neighbors!

Kelli (56:52.495)
Yeah.

Lori (56:55.56)
All right, good. So it was great to meet you. We really enjoyed having you on and we're looking forward.

Trish Appello (56:58.476)
You too, you too, and I'm looking so much at the link.

Wendy (56:59.056)
Yes.

Kelli (56:59.416)
Yeah, we wish you all the best. I mean, I'm really excited to see what happens.

Trish Appello (57:04.576)
And let's, yeah, let's keep on saying women support women. Let's, let's, and we don't need to, you know, ruin each other's, you know, with our Chanel earrings on. And our Gucci. It's like either you're wearing Chanel or Gucci and it, and you have to say it too. It's like Chanel it's, it's like, come on ladies, you know, it's, it's, it's, think. Yeah. Yeah. and, and.

Lori (57:04.839)
Yeah.

Wendy (57:09.507)
Absolutely.

Wendy (57:16.512)
No. No.

Kelli (57:16.602)
Right, right.

Kelli (57:22.326)
for sure.

Kelli (57:29.434)
There's a bigger picture.

Lori (57:31.13)
Yeah. Look, just wear the, just wear the Shmatta house coat and you good. You don't need Chanel. You good. Look, I have some nice hoops on. That's good. I be dazzled. Absolutely.

Trish Appello (57:36.302)
Shmata and a necklace, you're good. You're good to go. Yes, I see. You be dazzled. You be dazzled. Yes.

Wendy (57:41.609)
there you go.

Kelli (57:45.71)
Yeah, I need to find a black house coat because that's my go-to. That's all I wear is black. It's like I'm in constant mourning, but I'm really not.

Wendy (57:49.22)
that's what you wear.

Trish Appello (57:51.086)
Yeah, I got,

Lori (57:52.166)
I'm gonna find you one. I'm gonna find you one. Well I have pets so black I can't...

Kelli (57:57.368)
I'm like a widow from the 60s.

Trish Appello (57:58.958)
Yeah, yeah. Remember that? Yeah, they always had to wear black for a year. mean, like, what's the name? to wear black for a year. Scarlett O'Hara. She had to sit in the corner and wear black for a year. Yeah.

Kelli (58:01.274)
Yeah, I mean, yes.

Lori (58:05.212)
For a year.

Yeah, you have to be a morning. You have to be a morning.

Kelli (58:12.088)
My mother just told me that when her grandmother passed away, they couldn't put the TV on for a week. She's like, a week? We couldn't watch TV for a week. I'm like, well, that wouldn't last an hour in my house. So I'm sorry to tell you, mom, when you pass, nobody's turning devices off.

Wendy (58:18.473)
Trish Appello (58:20.566)
Yeah, I...

Lori (58:20.978)
There you go.

Trish Appello (58:25.119)
No, no.

I think, right, I remember during like Good Friday, we couldn't watch TV and we had to sit quiet on the couch for three hours. But that was probably my mother's favorite day, you know, with seven kids.

Lori (58:30.962)
So we'll you later.

Kelli (58:41.21)
Yes.

Lori (58:41.386)
there you go. yeah. Most definitely. Most definitely. Absolutely.

Trish Appello (58:46.67)
Well, lovely meeting all of you. And I hope this is just the first of many meetups and let's keep in touch. All right, take care.

Kelli (58:47.416)
Yes.

Kelli (58:51.32)
You too.

Lori (58:51.334)
Yes, nice to meet you.

Wendy (58:54.327)
Yes, we definitely will. All right, so thank you for, yes, thank you for watching and listening to We Wine Whenever. Until next time, bye.

Kelli (58:56.938)
Absolutely. Absolutely.

Lori (58:57.316)
Okay. All right. Have a good night.

Kelli (59:05.754)
Bye. Thank you.

Lori (59:06.737)
Bye.

Trish Appello (59:07.65)
Thank you.