Tears, Tantrums, and Tequila: RHOSLC Hits the Breaking Point

 Tears, Tantrums, and Tequila: RHOSLC Hits the Breaking Point
RHOSLC S5 E14 - La Vida Loca

Episode Highlights:

• Day 2 in Puerto Vallarta:
  • Bronwyn vents to Todd via FaceTime about Lisa and the villa drama.
  • Whitney, Heather, and Angie do water aerobics, with Whitney joking about Angie’s lack of rhythm.
  • Bronwyn recounts having to FaceTime Todd to go to the ER, sparking Heather’s reflection on past relationships.
  • Mary’s anticipated arrival adds tension to the group dynamic.
• Boat Excursion - The Best Day Ever
  • Lisa gifts the ladies Vida-branded canvas bags, prompting Bronwyn’s dismissive remark about grocery shopping.
  • Meredith, exhausted from a rough night, avoids group activities.
  • A heated argument erupts between Bronwyn and Britney, fueled by unmet expectations and personal grievances.
  • Bronwyn accuses Lisa of failing to defend her against accusations and feeling unsupported in their friendship.
  • Britney opens up about her marriage struggles, infidelity, and the challenges of step-parenting, leading to a raw emotional moment among the women.
• Emotional Revelations:
  • Bronwyn’s confessions about her insecurities, strained family relationships, and feelings of inadequacy resonate with Heather and others.
  • Heather offers empowering advice about self-worth and setting boundaries in relationships.
  • Angie and Meredith share their own experiences of perfectionism and marital struggles, creating moments of vulnerability.
• Dinner Drama - Vida Night:
  • Mary arrives late and shares her own emotional journey regarding her son.
  • Dinner conversation takes a sharp turn when past conflicts resurface, leading to arguments between Lisa, Angie, and Bronwyn.
  • Lisa storms out after feeling attacked and misunderstood by the group, leaving Mary to quip about the missing dessert.

Transcript

We Wine Whenever (00:00.699)
Hi, welcome to We Why Whenever. I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:03.429)
I'm Kelly.

We Wine Whenever (00:04.342)
I'm Lori.

We Wine Whenever (00:05.708)
We are talking about Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, Season 5, Episode 14. And this one is called La Vida Loca.

We Wine Whenever (00:17.26)
Hmm.

We Wine Whenever (00:18.347)
We start out at day two in Porta Vallarta. This has been an interesting trip so far. Bronwyn is FaceTiming with Todd about the situation with Lisa and the villas, how she's in an opposite villa from Lisa. Yes.

We Wine Whenever (00:34.39)
Yeah, the rooms.

Kelli (00:36.175)
Yeah, I felt like Todd kind of had her back on this, right?

We Wine Whenever (00:40.437)
Yeah, he did. He did. I think this was the episode too that he was on Watch What Happens Live with her afterwards, right? Because she was on Watch What Happens Live.

We Wine Whenever (00:49.428)
Yes, yes. Yeah.

Kelli (00:50.331)
You know, it's interesting. I had seen something that said they were separated. Did you guys see that?

We Wine Whenever (00:56.051)
No, I did not.

We Wine Whenever (00:56.979)
I didn't see, but you brought it up on our last episode when we were talking about it. Yeah, and that's what people said because yeah, I mean, they're not separated. They're definitely still together.

Kelli (00:59.87)
okay. And then he was on Watch What Happens Live.

Kelli (01:10.583)
No, they're definitely not separated, which I'm happy about. I'm glad about that.

We Wine Whenever (01:14.591)
Yeah. So Whitney, Heather and Angie are all doing water aerobics in the morning. We find out that Whitney's husband, every time they go on vacation, he makes them do water aerobics. You do? I think it's fun.

Kelli (01:22.929)
I don't like to do that.

We Wine Whenever (01:29.516)
I love water aerobics. yeah.

Kelli (01:30.703)
I kind of like that about Justin. would like to do.

We Wine Whenever (01:34.644)
It is fun. It's such an easy way to exercise. Like when you exercise in the water, it's so enjoyable, because I am not an exercise person. But when you do it in the water, it's very enjoyable. I always say that if I lived in Florida and had a pool I could go in every day, I would go in there and exercise.

Kelli (01:38.639)
Yeah, I feel like there's something I could handle.

Kelli (01:46.651)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (01:57.184)
Well, I will tell you a couple of years ago when I went to Florida, when my dad was still alive, they did have water aerobics there. And I went with my dad and my sister and myself and they had like, like pool weights, like styrofoam weights and like things to do in the pool. And they had these women that it would, you know, kind of

Kelli (02:11.589)
Mmm.

We Wine Whenever (02:12.022)
and I'll

We Wine Whenever (02:18.646)
do it every day for everybody and we did it. was fun. mean, nobody was very good at it and their music, couldn't get their music working. So, you know, it was one of those situations. It was, it was interesting. It was fun though. It was fun. Yeah. Yeah. I did think it was interesting though, watching Heather and Angie, like,

Kelli (02:27.799)
Ugh, you're doing it in quiet. That can't be fun. I would need like, like old school freestyle. And I'd like really be into it. Little TKA.

We Wine Whenever (02:36.256)
There you go. There you go. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (02:45.824)
They really can't dance. Like, I mean, even like the aerobics, like they are not coordinated. And honestly, I'm not either. I am not either. I'm not coordinated either. So I, you know.

We Wine Whenever (02:51.808)
No.

Kelli (02:57.253)
think I can dance and then when I'm out there doing it, I'm like, I feel very, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (02:59.252)
You can dance. You can. I've seen you. You can. Yeah, you can dance. Yeah. You got some rhythm. You're good. Yeah, you're good.

Kelli (03:05.489)
I feel it, yeah. It just takes a couple cocktails. And then I'm Britney Spears out there. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (03:08.03)
Okay. There you go. Yeah. So they're talking about how Bronwyn was telling them that Todd wouldn't go to the ER about the dog bite.

We Wine Whenever (03:12.224)
That's right.

Kelli (03:24.249)
Okay, I have a little perspective here.

We Wine Whenever (03:25.257)
What are your thoughts on that? Okay.

Kelli (03:30.353)
So Brahman has talked about anxiety, right? There's someone in my life who has anxiety, who thinks that they need to go to the hospital probably more times than they do. So I feel like Todd maybe looked at this situation like that because he wasn't with her.

We Wine Whenever (03:44.307)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (03:44.342)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (03:49.863)
Right, right, right.

We Wine Whenever (03:50.314)
Right, so he didn't know, right.

Kelli (03:51.909)
But then when he saw it, he was like, damn. So I really hope people don't beat Todd up over this. They probably will. But being that there's somebody I'm responsible for who likes to go to the doesn't like to go to the hospital, I should not say that. And I'm not making light of anybody who has anxiety, because I know it's a serious thing. that's how I thought maybe.

We Wine Whenever (03:54.316)
yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (03:55.519)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (04:00.749)
I'm sure they will, but yeah.

We Wine Whenever (04:02.4)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (04:20.3)
Yeah, you thought about it. Yeah, like, yeah. And that's, I gave him a pass on it too. I was thinking like to myself, nah, you know, she is drama. So, you know, I could say it.

Kelli (04:22.0)
Right?

Kelli (04:25.38)
Me too, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And even if you're not a dramatic person, just having anxiety and always having that go to, like, you know, you have a headache, so now you have a brain tumor and you need a CT scan. Like that's where it goes.

We Wine Whenever (04:42.688)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's where it goes in two seconds it goes there. Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (04:48.507)
Two seconds flat, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (04:52.316)
you gave us that perspective because I think you're right people are going to give Todd a hard time about that.

Kelli (04:58.117)
I mean, seeing her physical, it was terrible, terrible.

We Wine Whenever (05:00.923)
100%.

We Wine Whenever (05:04.107)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (05:05.139)
I don't think I've heard a lot of people commenting online about just not a single person that did not see it and was not horrified as we all were as well because those were some serious bites.

Kelli (05:13.252)
Absolutely.

We Wine Whenever (05:17.13)
And I give her kudos for even going, because I would have been like, you know what? Uh-uh. Nah, I'm out. I'm going to go hang out with all these bitches, with all this stuff I got going on. No, I'm good. I'm good.

Kelli (05:22.587)
I'm sitting this one out.

We Wine Whenever (05:26.504)
Yeah.

Kelli (05:28.315)
Right. Right.

We Wine Whenever (05:30.068)
Yeah. I mean, and Heather does chime in about how she can understand about, you know, being in a marriage and taking the back seat. But I don't think Heather's situation is the same. I don't think it's the same.

We Wine Whenever (05:40.83)
No, Heather's, Heather's definitely projecting her prior relationship on the Bronwyn Todd, which is understandable, but it doesn't allow whatever Bronwyn and Todd's relationship really is to come out because she's just, you know, she's she's projecting her own shit.

We Wine Whenever (05:45.033)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (06:00.154)
No, I totally agree with that. So then we see Lisa come out and she gives the ladies the Vita only canvas bags to take on the boat trip. Wait, wait.

Kelli (06:00.24)
I agree.

We Wine Whenever (06:10.124)
No, wait a second. No, not V. She wouldn't have V. She couldn't have given a Vita swag.

Kelli (06:19.057)
You

We Wine Whenever (06:20.426)
I mean, it was Vita only too. Like, what is that? Her... I don't even know. I think that's something she made up for the trip, right?

We Wine Whenever (06:25.516)
who knows? I can't take it with her with the swag.

Kelli (06:27.803)
For sure.

We Wine Whenever (06:29.642)
I mean, and it was a canvas bag, like, you know, it was a canvas bag. It wasn't like, I don't know. No, but ours are embroidered, hers was silk screened. Ours are elevated. We have an elevated, we definitely have an elevated canvas bag.

Kelli (06:38.161)
Isn't that what our bags are?

We Wine Whenever (06:39.904)
Yeah.

There you go. Big difference. you go. There you go.

Kelli (06:43.821)
Ours are embroidered.

Kelli (06:49.573)
like a canvas bag, especially for the beach. You shake that shit right out.

We Wine Whenever (06:52.235)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (06:53.046)
Yes. hers was not like ours.

We Wine Whenever (06:58.528)
And let me just say this, girls, you don't wear heels to go on a boat. Okay? You don't wear heels. You don't wear heels. No. No.

We Wine Whenever (06:59.766)
Ha!

We Wine Whenever (07:06.02)
No, you don't. Or to go to the beach. No. No.

Kelli (07:07.768)
Not advisable.

We Wine Whenever (07:13.959)
I mean most boats want you to be barefoot.

Kelli (07:16.335)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (07:16.652)
Absolutely, or you have to have boat shoes. Yes. That's exactly right. Yes.

We Wine Whenever (07:18.654)
Boat shoes. Boat shoes are barefoot. That's what you have to wear. Right. So, Meredith is on the bus on the way to the boat and she falls asleep.

We Wine Whenever (07:33.364)
Meredith is always zanied out. I'm gonna say it. I'm just gonna say it. The girl is always clocked out, especially trips. It's like, my God, Meredith. You're awake.

Kelli (07:40.123)
I agree with you.

Kelli (07:45.294)
I totally agree with you.

We Wine Whenever (07:47.657)
I... Okay, I did not know this. I'm glad that you guys are telling me this. I'm serious.

Kelli (07:55.097)
I totally agree with you and I think that that's why she talks the way she talks.

We Wine Whenever (07:59.532)
Yeah, she's a wreck, man. I don't know. Yes!

We Wine Whenever (08:01.876)
This explains it! I had- I-

Kelli (08:02.001)
She

She has a delayed, like her speech is delayed. And it's not like a, I'm not, you I'm just saying she speaks like she's, has taken something.

We Wine Whenever (08:10.154)
Yeah, ease up, Meredith, ease up.

We Wine Whenever (08:13.96)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (08:20.158)
Yeah. And then I think when she combines alcohol with it, I think she's totally fucked. Yeah.

Kelli (08:23.385)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (08:25.117)
Okay, now this explains a lot to me. I'm not even kidding. I had no idea. I was like, what is going on with Meredith? And you're right. Like the way she talks is all screwed up. Why am I so naive to stupid shit like this? I would have never seen that. seriously, I get, well, that's funny. It's, just like, I mean, I don't use them now either. I don't use them now either.

We Wine Whenever (08:35.734)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (08:40.067)
You didn't use drugs when you were younger.

We Wine Whenever (08:42.75)
Yeah, that's why.

Kelli (08:47.163)
We did.

We Wine Whenever (08:48.566)
We did.

Kelli (08:50.713)
Right, exactly. I don't either now. We don't either now, but we have in the past.

We Wine Whenever (08:52.129)
Well.

We Wine Whenever (08:52.681)
Okay, okay. Okay, I had no idea. Thank you, ladies, for clearing this up for me. This makes so much sense.

Kelli (09:03.589)
See, that's what we're here for.

We Wine Whenever (09:03.712)
Mm-hmm. That's what we're here

We Wine Whenever (09:06.597)
my gosh. I still don't like Meredith. Listen, I still don't like her. It doesn't make...

We Wine Whenever (09:09.43)
No, no, I don't like it.

Kelli (09:10.769)
I like her a little bit better thinking that she might take a little as any once in a while.

We Wine Whenever (09:13.516)
I don't know if it's once in a while. I know on the trips man she is

We Wine Whenever (09:16.904)
you

Kelli (09:18.395)
Ha ha ha ha

We Wine Whenever (09:20.465)
Okay, this explains so much. All right.

Kelli (09:21.903)
Yeah. I mean, listen, I'll nap in the back of a bus too. Don't get me wrong. And I don't need a Xanax to do it, but.

We Wine Whenever (09:31.528)
But you know the interesting thing is that Brittany had told Heather that she heard her in the middle of the night crying and throwing up.

Kelli (09:40.177)
Bold move, Brittany. And I feel like you're gonna regret this.

We Wine Whenever (09:40.236)
you

We Wine Whenever (09:41.775)
Yes.

Yes. So can we just jump into this right now? Cause I'm very curious. Do you think, cause she does bring it up at the end, but do you think she was throwing up and crying or do you think, what do you think?

We Wine Whenever (10:01.694)
I think she's probably throwing up and crying. She probably got all fucked up.

Kelli (10:01.814)
I think she was throwing up and crying.

We Wine Whenever (10:05.68)
You think she was throwing up and crying? Okay. Between the alcohol and the Xanax.

We Wine Whenever (10:07.788)
Yeah, she got all fucked up and... and then... Yeah, she got all fucked up, she was puking and she crying.

Kelli (10:13.957)
probably shit going on in her real life that she's not sharing with us even though she's a reality TV star and is supposed to be sharing her real life. She's probably got real shit going on in her life that we have no idea about because she's a fucking facade on this show and has been since day one. She shows nothing.

We Wine Whenever (10:17.708)
That's right.

We Wine Whenever (10:24.588)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (10:25.093)
and we have no idea.

We Wine Whenever (10:27.195)
Listen, we just

Right. We just saw the last episode. Her husband couldn't even stay for two days. know, it wasn't the last episode, but you know, when they went to Palm Springs. So come on, she's here. She's... And don't... What a lame, lame, lame ass lie to say, oh, it was slut shamming that made me cry. No, bitch, no. No, stop.

We Wine Whenever (10:32.292)
Okay.

Kelli (10:38.479)
Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (10:39.376)
Yeah. Right, no, I know what you mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (10:54.728)
I know, like come on. No, know, no, no, no, no.

Kelli (10:59.417)
No. You don't care about Brittany enough to even have that kind of reaction.

We Wine Whenever (11:00.832)
Like you need to think of a better lie. Absolutely. You need to think of a better ass lie than that. That's all I got to say.

We Wine Whenever (11:08.36)
Well, that explains why she didn't because she was on the Xanax. I see this is, that's why I'm saying it makes so no, this is alleged this everything. Yes. Yes. All this is allegedly, but oh my gosh, it makes so much more sense now. Cause I was very confused. All right. So they get to the boat and the boat is called the best day ever. I love that name for a boat.

We Wine Whenever (11:12.533)
Here you go.

Kelli (11:13.723)
Well, we don't know. We're just assumed. We're just alleged, allegedly, allegedly.

We Wine Whenever (11:16.096)
with a ledge.

We Wine Whenever (11:22.828)
Thank you.

We Wine Whenever (11:30.316)
It is a nice name.

Kelli (11:32.579)
I do too. And I actually did really love Meredith's outfit on the yacht, the short black dress. Like that's my vibe.

We Wine Whenever (11:40.702)
Yeah, but where you... It was too short. Girl, you're not going to the club. You're not going to the club. You're not going to the club.

We Wine Whenever (11:41.023)
I think it was a little too short. She couldn't walk in her shoes! What about her shoes?

Kelli (11:48.591)
The shoes, the shoes were ridiculous, but the outfit, would wear that on a yacht if somebody invited me on a yacht.

We Wine Whenever (11:55.998)
It was not a yacht outfit. It was not a yacht outfit. It was, it was a club outfit. was, I liked it too. I did like it too, but I thought it was very, it was very inappropriate for the venue. Very inappropriate. Yeah. No. Sorry.

Kelli (11:58.149)
Well, I would make it a yacht outfit, because I liked it.

We Wine Whenever (12:00.946)
I actually agree with Lori. I don't think it was a yacht outfit either.

We Wine Whenever (12:08.423)
I'm with Laurie on this one. I mean, we would let you wear it, but we would tell you. And you'd still wear it. I know, I know you would. That's fine. All right. No, it's good. It's good. It's good. It's good.

Kelli (12:10.594)
my.

Kelli (12:14.897)
Alright, I'm still wearing it. I will wear a shirt black dress to anything if I can get away with it.

We Wine Whenever (12:16.778)
I'm just gonna wear it, yeah.

I know, I know. Wait, all I have to say is if Lisa says like one more time, I'm going to reach into the TV and throttle her. I cannot stand it. I want you to pay attention next episode to how many times the woman says like. Like she's, she says it like she's in the eighth grade. Like eighth grader, that's how many times she says the word.

Kelli (12:32.529)
She says that a lot.

Kelli (12:40.773)
Yeah, she says that a lot.

We Wine Whenever (12:46.779)
Ha ha ha!

Kelli (12:49.968)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (12:50.154)
like.

I just had to get it out. I feel better now.

We Wine Whenever (12:52.775)
Thank you. So they all get on the boat and they're all dancing in the back of the boat, except for Meredith. She's not participating because she's still napping. Right. And the others that, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then Lisa is telling them how it's been such a challenging year for Henry going to middle school without his brother, Jack. And cause Jack is out on his mission trip and like, listen,

Kelli (13:03.377)
because she can't dance. Probably, I'm assuming.

We Wine Whenever (13:22.234)
We've had children in middle school, right? All of us have had children in middle school. We know that middle school is hard,

Kelli (13:29.413)
hardest.

We Wine Whenever (13:30.84)
But is it as hard as she was making it sound? I don't know. I felt like it was a little bit amped up.

We Wine Whenever (13:40.012)
Well that's cause Lisa was saying it.

Kelli (13:42.403)
I think that middle school is the hardest.

We Wine Whenever (13:44.39)
It is hard. I agree. mean, out of elementary and high school, I think middle school is the hardest for sure.

We Wine Whenever (13:44.438)
Brutal.

Kelli (13:51.057)
and I just, I'm a very super sensitive parent. Like you know me. If somebody fucked with my kid, my kids are 21 and 17. If you fucked with my kid in middle school, I still remember you.

We Wine Whenever (13:56.068)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (14:04.17)
That's right. I will not forget that shit ever. Yep.

Kelli (14:07.174)
I remember you and I have very strong opinions about you.

We Wine Whenever (14:11.36)
Yep. And if you're broken down on the side of road, I will keep going.

We Wine Whenever (14:11.845)
Really?

We Wine Whenever (14:17.346)
Wow, okay. All right, got it, got it.

We Wine Whenever (14:18.987)
Yup.

Kelli (14:20.175)
Yeah, so I get it. get, I get, you know, I'm not saying Lisa's like that.

We Wine Whenever (14:23.576)
I think it's because it's Lisa. That's why. It's annoying. That's why it feels overdone, because it's Lisa.

We Wine Whenever (14:26.818)
Okay, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (14:32.325)
But then after she starts talking about it, you know, her son, Henry, Brittany is like, wait, what about me? Like she is the most tone deaf person I've ever seen on TV in my entire life. She cannot read a room

We Wine Whenever (14:39.944)
What about me?

God.

Kelli (14:50.523)
This girl... This girl needs to go. She needs to go. Like seriously, what's wrong with her?

We Wine Whenever (14:57.587)
What about me?

She's a fucking whiner. That's what she is. She's a whiner.

Kelli (15:06.341)
Yeah, I-

We Wine Whenever (15:06.597)
It didn't even make any sense. It's kind of even like the whole Camille thing at Beverly Hills. It's like, where, how do you come up with this now?

Kelli (15:14.907)
Yeah, like, nobody responded because, first of all, you talk too much. You're talking way too much. You're not, like, people can't process the last thing you said before you're saying the new thing.

We Wine Whenever (15:28.71)
Everything has to be an announcement. There's no just kind of organic conversation, which is right. Like Lisa's was a conversation that they were having. It's not, me make an announcement or what, what about like, no, you're just talking to people who are supposed to be your friends.

We Wine Whenever (15:33.484)
No, it's all in a no.

Kelli (15:33.861)
Mm-mm.

Kelli (15:48.345)
And Lisa was like expressing like genuine concern for her child. Brittany was like.

We Wine Whenever (15:52.902)
She actually had tears in her eyes. She was like, I mean, she was really, like you said, she's very sensitive. You could see she was very moved by what was happening to her son. She really was.

Kelli (16:02.897)
Yeah, you know, and Britney, it's like I saw my daughter, heard she slept over. And I feel like everybody was like, okay, that's great, you know.

We Wine Whenever (16:04.298)
I love how.

We Wine Whenever (16:08.719)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (16:12.298)
Right. And I love how, Brittany, calls Bram when a bitch and Bram and basically like shook her head and like, yeah, yeah, I am.

We Wine Whenever (16:23.503)
Well, because Bronwyn says to her, Bronwyn says to her, listen, the difference is I know Henry. I've met him. I've met him before. I know who Lisa's talking about.

Kelli (16:33.072)
Yeah, and she had a valid point. She's like, does Brittany just like making announcements or does she actually like the meaning behind the announcement? Like, are you happy that your daughter stayed the night or do you just want the moment to make the announcement that your daughter stayed the night?

We Wine Whenever (16:33.153)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (16:37.411)
Right. Right. Right.

We Wine Whenever (16:47.51)
Right. Which is crazy. Yes, 100 % valid because that's what it's all about with Brittany. I mean, and by the way, I just saw like it's Instagram official now that she's with Jared.

We Wine Whenever (16:48.064)
Right. It's just valid. Yeah. Very well.

Kelli (16:50.212)
So valid.

We Wine Whenever (17:00.54)
my god, stop it. He is so thirsty. He is so thirsty. yes, he does. He wants to be on that show so bad.

Kelli (17:00.613)
Yeah, because he thinks she's coming back. Like he thinks that she's gonna be a new housewife for Salt Lake City. So he's got his hitch tied.

We Wine Whenever (17:11.748)
She is so desperate. She is so desperate too though.

Kelli (17:13.593)
He sure does.

Kelli (17:17.445)
They both are, they deserve each other.

We Wine Whenever (17:17.652)
it's horrible.

We Wine Whenever (17:20.022)
my gosh. Please don't bring either of them back.

Kelli (17:24.234)
please don't bring either of them back.

We Wine Whenever (17:28.738)
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

Kelli (17:30.735)
I'm not even gonna say what kind of vibes he's giving me, cause you know, I said I wasn't gonna talk about him.

We Wine Whenever (17:31.638)
So, I- I got a question.

We Wine Whenever (17:35.032)
Okay, yeah, don't mention it.

We Wine Whenever (17:36.694)
I have question. I have written down in my notes, fucking Lisa, and then I wrote, that's nice. What did she say that about? Does anybody remember?

Kelli (17:36.945)
not doing it.

We Wine Whenever (17:45.304)
All right, so.

Kelli (17:45.605)
Well, now we get to the point where Brahman says that Todd cheated on her.

basically.

We Wine Whenever (17:54.755)
maybe when she's, maybe I have that written down when Bronwyn says that Todd got her a ring. Maybe not, maybe not.

We Wine Whenever (18:03.713)
wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, no, wait, before that happens. So when Bronwyn says to Brittany about, you know, I know Henry and I I've met him. And then Brittany says to Bronwyn, you're really an effing bitch. Then Bronwyn looks at Lisa and says, do you have anything to say? You're going to let her call me a bitch. And of course,

We Wine Whenever (18:19.702)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (18:26.191)
Right. Right.

We Wine Whenever (18:30.208)
Of course, Lisa says, I've stuck up for you in every situation. I'm trying to be a good friend to you. Broman says, you and I have been friends for 10 years. You let this woman call me a gold digger, a trophy wife, a bitch. Broman says, I've taken you aside multiple times and I told you that I felt alone and vulnerable in this group. Like this is bullshit. Why are you not here for me?

We Wine Whenever (18:43.924)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (18:55.844)
And that's when it kind of, that's when it comes out. Bronwyn says, except when I tell you I don't feel close to you, you don't effing care. And the ladies are all sitting there quietly, like looking at each other, what do we do? And Bronwyn says, does anyone ask me a question about myself? No one bothered to get to know me. And then Brittany says, I don't want to come for you. Nobody asked me about the real shit I've gone through. And that's when she starts talking about Todd.

We Wine Whenever (19:23.372)
That's too much. Right.

We Wine Whenever (19:24.419)
and how I navigate that he, being with someone who's older and more successful and that how hard it is to be a stepmom. I mean, I didn't know that he had other children. mean, I guess we should have assumed he did because he's older, but we never knew that, right? We don't.

Kelli (19:40.495)
Yeah, so maybe it's not an easy peasy relationship, right? I mean, she could be his child's age, let's face it, right? There's that big of an age difference.

We Wine Whenever (19:43.679)
Right. Right. Right.

We Wine Whenever (19:43.724)
Well, I'm sure it's not.

We Wine Whenever (19:49.729)
Right, right. And then, yeah, exactly. And then, then Brittany, Angie puts her hand on Brittany and says, shh, because Brittany was about to say something when Bronwyn was really opening up. You know, Lisa gets up and moves closer. Whitney asks, how did you find out? And she says, a couple of years ago, we were on a trip and he was texting someone on his iPad and Gwen saw it over her shoulder, which

This kind of begs a question because according to...

What happened on Watch What Happens Live, when Bronwyn spoke about the situation with her and Todd, she said that my, what did she say? My definition of relationship, there was no physical relationship with Todd and somebody else. Right.

We Wine Whenever (20:50.166)
Like he didn't, he didn't physically cheat on her. She was saying basically it was like an emotional, emotional affair, which can be just as devastating. And you know, who knows it's a, it's a 50 50 toss up. Is she just doing damage control? Cause she ran him out more than she wanted to get upset or, that could, but it, or it could totally just be the case. But you know what? matter what I was not loving.

Kelli (20:53.427)
so it was like an emotional affair?

We Wine Whenever (20:55.646)
Yes, yes.

We Wine Whenever (21:08.028)
Right. Right.

Kelli (21:09.84)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (21:18.418)
anybody on that yacht because this is not somebody that I even know. But even if I was in shop right and it was a total stranger, if I had so many of my presents that I could tell was upset, I would have been on them like white on rice. I can't believe that none of those women got up and hugged her. Like what in the fuck?

Kelli (21:45.903)
I was thinking the same thing.

We Wine Whenever (21:47.09)
is wrong with you. I would go up to a total stranger and wipe their tears off their face. And this is somebody that I don't care if you're friends with her or not, you work with her. Like who sits there? And I don't even give a shit if she was that good of an actress and it was all bullshit. But how do you sit there and...

We Wine Whenever (22:01.021)
Right. Right.

We Wine Whenever (22:14.86)
I mean, a couple of them, oh, I know what you mean and compared it to them fuck themselves. But nobody, nobody was like.

We Wine Whenever (22:25.789)
I agree with you. I 100 % agree with you.

Kelli (22:26.907)
No, not only that, because I can get, listen, I'm a hugger, hello, goodbye, that kind of hugger. Sometimes I get awkward in situations like this, but I do agree with you. Somebody should have gotten up and hugged her. But when Lisa and Meredith were like, maybe it's because you're so closed off. It's like, what?

We Wine Whenever (22:41.707)
I mean...

We Wine Whenever (22:48.875)
yeah, now the fucking- Police. Harb-

Kelli (22:51.417)
Like, I'm sorry, I go through shit and that does not give my husband a pass to text, call, screw someone else. It just doesn't.

We Wine Whenever (23:03.432)
Yeah, now. I mean, when she said, I'm not, feel like I'm not good enough at home and I'm not good enough with you guys ever. I mean, how do you, but how do you not, how do you not react to that? There's something wrong.

Kelli (23:12.849)
So she's just got insecurity issues.

Kelli (23:18.799)
Right, right.

We Wine Whenever (23:19.488)
Right. And that's right. And that's what she was, the point she was making is that she has said this to Lisa many times on the side. says, I've pulled you aside and I've said to you, like, I don't feel comfortable in these like situations. Like I've known you for 10 years. Like, can you have my back?

Kelli (23:40.079)
Right. Right.

We Wine Whenever (23:40.982)
She's wanting something from Lisa that Lisa is not even capable of providing with her because she does not have the emotional maturity and depth as a person to be able to provide that to anybody.

Kelli (23:45.666)
Incapable.

Kelli (23:55.193)
Right. She's incapable of it.

We Wine Whenever (23:56.668)
Maybe, maybe she can do it with her husband and her children, but that is it in life. That is as far as it goes. I don't think she's capable.

Kelli (24:04.613)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (24:07.581)
I know. I agree.

Kelli (24:11.215)
Yeah, and when she said she thinks that Todd means more to her than she means to him that like broke my heart

We Wine Whenever (24:19.616)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (24:19.858)
No, it did break my heart. I was a little confused though when she said that he came back to me with a ring that had five new diamonds and he made five promises that were not promised to me in marriage. Do we know what those five promises are? We don't, right?

We Wine Whenever (24:38.636)
Nope, nope, nope, nope. No. But that's, but that's when Lisa said, oh, that's nice. I was like, oh, she's a big asshole.

Kelli (24:39.953)
I don't think she went into detail, but I mean, I mean

We Wine Whenever (24:47.112)
Right, no, that's... Yeah.

Kelli (24:52.625)
She's very, she was very, it was very...

I guess fake is the word I'm looking for.

We Wine Whenever (25:02.313)
No, it was fake. It was fake. I mean, even in her confessional when she wasn't there in front of her, she said, I've known her for 10 years and I always thought things were good.

We Wine Whenever (25:02.464)
Yeah.

Kelli (25:11.195)
Yeah, like what are you trying to say? Like, she think, was she insinuating that she was lying?

We Wine Whenever (25:17.268)
Well, she was. She was insinuating that.

Kelli (25:19.289)
He, she was insinuating she was lying. That's so fucked up.

We Wine Whenever (25:24.968)
Right. Like, how could I not know that? Right. Not only was she insinuating that she was lying, like, Lori said her and Meredith, like insinuated that it was her fault. And not only she saw that the other women saw that too. So, okay. Heather did. Heather said, you know, you know, I'm so

Kelli (25:26.011)
That's so messed up.

We Wine Whenever (25:36.224)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (25:36.398)
Exactly.

Kelli (25:41.335)
Yes, Heather actually said nice things to her.

We Wine Whenever (25:47.328)
Yeah, but she later backpedaled on the after show. Bitch. yes, she did. yes, she did.

Kelli (25:49.637)
Yeah. she did.

We Wine Whenever (25:51.425)
she did?

We Wine Whenever (25:55.52)
What about Angie? Because Angie said nice things to her too. And Angie, you know, said her and Shawn haven't had it easy. And, you know, their relationship has had its ups and downs. And I really like Angie and I believe that she's genuine. I really felt like she was there for her. But I don't watch the after show. Did she say anything on the after show that would have, you know, yeah. No. Okay. All right. Good. I'm glad to hear that, you know.

Kelli (26:09.189)
I do too.

Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (26:16.338)
Angie, you're paying on that? No, no, no, Angie's good. No.

I just felt really bad for Bronwyn because I think that she can be very lonely. She can be a lonely person. And you can be with a lot of people and still be lonely.

Kelli (26:39.579)
Sure. Sure.

We Wine Whenever (26:39.58)
definitely.

We Wine Whenever (26:40.652)
You know what I mean? So that's why I'm saying, I just can't believe that none of them bitches got up and hugged her.

Kelli (26:48.355)
And what Whitney said was interesting that Lisa and Meredith probably had that reaction because they've both been accused of cheating.

We Wine Whenever (26:58.348)
because of their own.

Yeah, that was interesting.

Kelli (27:03.171)
I mean, listen, we've talked about this before. I do believe that Meredith and Seth have an open marriage. And I think that they need to just come out and say it. But I don't think Meredith says anything that's real about her life. I think Meredith is playing a character on TV. We don't know anything about Meredith Marks. We don't know. We know nothing about her.

We Wine Whenever (27:03.241)
That was interesting.

We Wine Whenever (27:17.868)
No.

We Wine Whenever (27:21.27)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

A sloth. A sloth.

We Wine Whenever (27:26.559)
Yeah, I don't and there's nothing about I don't like anything about her. I really don't so like we don't Yeah, we don't like this character. I really don't I really and I haven't I've never liked her from the from day one of this show She has been the one person and I there's very few people that I don't I don't like I really try and give everybody a chance and I try to give them the benefit the doubt but there has been

We Wine Whenever (27:31.596)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (27:31.885)
Now pick a new character, Meredith, because we're not digging this one.

Kelli (27:45.296)
Yeah.

Kelli (27:51.235)
Yeah, you do.

We Wine Whenever (27:52.543)
There's been nothing about Meredith that I say, wow, I can really relate to that. think that, you know, like let's give her a chance. Everything about her is just so fake and phony. I don't like, there's nothing about her I like. And I don't know.

We Wine Whenever (28:08.108)
Now, the worst, the worst that made me just say, ew, was when Lisa said, she's so much more relatable now.

Kelli (28:09.126)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (28:22.217)
my god, yes. I know. I know. I know. I know.

Kelli (28:22.619)
What the fuck does that mean?

We Wine Whenever (28:25.548)
about Brahman. It's ugh, ugh, she's gross.

Kelli (28:28.133)
Because honestly, feel like Brahman came on this season and has been an open book. I don't, I mean, okay, so she's just sharing this now, but she didn't have to tell us that her husband had an affair, emotional or physical. She didn't have to tell us that. But I feel like she's been very honest about her life.

We Wine Whenever (28:39.566)
No, right, right. And that she felt insecure. She absolutely has been. And even Angie said that she's like, listen, I know more about her than in this one, this one boat ride, this one hour, then I know about you. And it's true. It is true. Like Bronwyn has been open and vulnerable about

We Wine Whenever (28:45.579)
Yeah!

Kelli (28:51.833)
Yes. Yes.

Kelli (29:03.696)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (29:04.426)
And that hissy fit at the end that Lisa throws because of that is like, my God. Like that's all right for Angie to say that. That doesn't mean that like your friendship with Angie is now meaningless. You know what it is? It's because the spotlight got taken off Lisa for one second. And that's what she does is throws a big baby fit like a little toddler and leaves. Yeah.

Kelli (29:14.149)
yeah.

Kelli (29:30.266)
yeah, she'll run. She's a runner. Yeah.

Kelli (29:37.467)
but at least then we go see Mary and Robert's going to rehab.

We Wine Whenever (29:41.973)
Be new to them.

We Wine Whenever (29:43.73)
Yes, I love that. I love that he's ready to go. I love that she's there to take him. I love that she found my place and that she prayed. I love that whole scene. And I love that, you know, when she showed, I love everything about Mary this season, when she showed up and the guy's trying to give her a drink and she's like, I just gotta use the bathroom. And she's just looking for the bathroom. And then she goes in the first villa and who did she run into? Was it Meredith? I don't know who she ran into, but really she just wanted to,

Kelli (30:12.891)
Heather, Heather, Heather.

We Wine Whenever (30:13.225)
Heather, Heather, trans mother.

We Wine Whenever (30:13.81)
was Heather, Heather. She really just wanted to see Angie. And as soon as she saw Angie, could see, you could see that bond, could see that friendship. She knew that her girl was there. Someone who had her back, someone who knew what she was going through. She didn't have to speak the words. She didn't have to say anything. And it just was real.

Kelli (30:21.893)
I know, I know, it's like a true friendship.

We Wine Whenever (30:23.114)
that there is a real friendship there. is sweet, very sweet.

Kelli (30:32.368)
Yeah.

Kelli (30:40.687)
Yeah. Yeah, I agree.

We Wine Whenever (30:41.081)
It was so real. Like I love Mary this season. I really do. I really love her this season. I do too. I do too.

Kelli (30:46.287)
And I do love her friendship with Angie.

We Wine Whenever (30:48.352)
Yes.

So did you see how about Heather actually saying something bad about Lisa? Heather said, it's hard for Lisa not to understand not wanting to be friends with someone who is rich and beautiful. How do you like that? Yes, she did. Yes, she did. Someone who is rich and beautiful and cool.

Kelli (31:04.485)
Yes. Heather said that? I think I had it written down, but I didn't realize it was Heather.

Kelli (31:17.614)
Luke, who's talking, Heather?

We Wine Whenever (31:18.851)
Yeah, I can't actually say that.

We Wine Whenever (31:21.125)
Yeah, always wanting to be with the cool girls.

We Wine Whenever (31:24.714)
And how about Mary when she first got there with a mask on outside? Mary, what are you doing? Mary, what are you doing?

Kelli (31:25.007)
Yeah.

Kelli (31:28.625)
I wasn't gonna bring it up, but I noticed that too. Come on now, Mary, you're out in the fresh air. Get that fresh air, girl.

We Wine Whenever (31:31.762)
haha

We Wine Whenever (31:33.292)
Come on, young man. Come on.

We Wine Whenever (31:35.773)
Well, we don't know. Maybe she just got off the plane and she... I don't... Yeah. Listen, Mary can't do any wrong in my book this season. I'm sorry.

We Wine Whenever (31:40.362)
Or maybe I'm maybe. Yeah.

Kelli (31:40.463)
Maybe she forgot to take her mask off.

Kelli (31:46.382)
No, I agree, I agree.

We Wine Whenever (31:46.698)
Yeah. And did you guys notice that Whitney was wearing that designer? Remember when we did that episode on Fashion Week and the one designer that had all the eyeballs? Yeah, Whitney was wearing something from that designer. I noticed it. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (31:57.37)
Yes.

Kelli (31:57.721)
No, I didn't notice!

Kelli (32:02.926)
I did not notice. I remember the eyeballs.

We Wine Whenever (32:03.6)
I didn't, I did not notice that but I remember the eyeball designer.

We Wine Whenever (32:05.908)
Yeah, Aria was the designer. Yeah, Aria was the designer, Aria. so, yeah, Whitney was wearing one of the pieces, so I was like, look at you.

Kelli (32:16.059)
That's interesting. How about those big old letters spelling out Vita?

We Wine Whenever (32:19.676)
my gosh.

We Wine Whenever (32:21.229)
I can't, I can't, I can't.

Kelli (32:23.695)
And then Whitney said that Lisa can't afford a commercial.

We Wine Whenever (32:29.5)
my god. my god.

Kelli (32:31.461)
That was good. That was good.

We Wine Whenever (32:34.348)
And how about when Whitney said, I had no idea Meredith was the advocate for the sluts of America? And I put SOA after that.

We Wine Whenever (32:47.965)
my gosh, my gosh. Whitney said that in her confessional, in her confessional. You know what, we've actually, forgot to mention this. I just flipped over my page after Bronwyn was talking about all those things, you know, on the, on the boat. And she's like, Heather says, well, that's why you have so many dogs, right? You know, to, fill the, you know, fill love. And she's like, yes. And so many Judith Leibers, her bags.

Kelli (32:48.175)
That was so funny. Who said it?

We Wine Whenever (32:49.814)
Yeah, that was good.

We Wine Whenever (32:54.184)
Yeah, that mirror does.

Kelli (32:54.309)
Whitney said that? That was so good.

Kelli (33:13.444)
yeah.

Kelli (33:17.967)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (33:18.006)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (33:21.735)
I love how she throws those little things in there, right? Like just, she really is, she really is.

Kelli (33:25.435)
She's very good with her one-liners.

We Wine Whenever (33:25.674)
Yeah. yeah.

We Wine Whenever (33:31.372)
Yeah. So on the after show, Heather did a total 180. And on the after show, she's got on this outfit. If she'd have put those fucking boobs back in her dress. Yes. Yes. Oh, it's not good. But she did such a 180 and she was such a bitch. As soon as she found out that Brahman was critical of Lisa, Heather's response totally flipped.

We Wine Whenever (33:31.6)
Kelli (33:43.355)
She's really feeling herself.

We Wine Whenever (34:01.212)
you kidding me? that's bullshit. That's such bullshit.

We Wine Whenever (34:02.282)
Yep, totally flipped.

Kelli (34:02.577)
That's not surprising.

Heather's like a want, she's like a wannabe. She just wants to sit at the cool girls table and for some reason she thinks Meredith and Lisa are the cool girls.

We Wine Whenever (34:12.778)
Yeah. And Brahman was explaining, she's like, you know, I know I said too much on the boat. She said, I like emotionally vomited, which I thought was a it was a good line. and you know, Lisa, she was, Lisa was on there talking about all about, you know, she was talking shit, like worrying about like Todd's like business ventures and how like Brahman should be like more aware of, you know, that's like shot.

Kelli (34:40.849)
I think Todd's just fine.

We Wine Whenever (34:41.962)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (34:44.643)
Yes, I think he's just fine.

Kelli (34:46.911)
and Brahman's a smart girl.

We Wine Whenever (34:48.588)
And Lisa said that Whitney hates her because she can put on a great trip and she's such a successful person. Yeah, it's crazy. I love the after show. It's the best.

Kelli (35:00.785)
She's like vapid. She's vapid.

We Wine Whenever (35:04.917)
You know what I'm thinking? I had said last week that I think that Braunwyn should not come back because of Todd, right? This is what I'm thinking now. So Gwen is going off to college, right? And Todd travels to New York. Maybe Braunwyn should travel with him. Like why can't she go back and forth to New York? I mean know she has all those dogs but...

We Wine Whenever (35:14.208)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (35:32.548)
They can get a house sitter to watch the dogs, right? I think that that would be good for them. And I think she could still be on the show and he could still do his job and they can spend more time together. You know? I don't know. That's just my thought.

We Wine Whenever (35:33.222)
dog sitter.

Kelli (35:35.033)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (35:40.208)
I do too.

We Wine Whenever (35:43.745)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (35:43.942)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (35:49.834)
That would be good. Yep. And you know, as fucked up as Whitney is, like, it doesn't even matter anymore because everything that Whitney says about Lisa is so true that it just, like, negates any fucked up-ness of Whitney's. Because she'd always, when Whitney talks about Lisa, she's always right. She's always telling the truth.

We Wine Whenever (36:17.134)
She does call her out.

Kelli (36:17.585)
I'm not a huge Whitney fan, but she does call Lisa out. Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (36:20.46)
She does. She does.

We Wine Whenever (36:23.268)
She does, honestly that's always where her and Heather would kind of butt heads is because Heather won't call her out and Whitney does. But I don't know, did you see all the hubbub about Justin and Whitney getting a divorce?

Kelli (36:28.547)
Of course.

We Wine Whenever (36:30.496)
want.

Kelli (36:31.555)
No! Right. Right.

Kelli (36:39.471)
Yeah, but I don't think it's true, do you?

We Wine Whenever (36:41.506)
I don't know, I hope it's not true. I really hope it's not true. Because I like Justin and Whitney together.

We Wine Whenever (36:46.08)
Yeah, hopefully not.

Yeah.

Kelli (36:49.627)
I don't think it's true. I think that this is where we're at with Bravo. I think I've said it a million times. think Bravo's a sinking ship and I think that they're doing whatever they're like us. They're throwing spaghetti at the wall and seeing what sticks.

We Wine Whenever (37:01.146)
I wonder about the whole up and Adam thing with Whitney because Whitney has a totally different version than he does. And he's also the one who was saying that, you know, her and Justin are having problems. Like, I just wonder, is he just that, like, does he just have his own angle to be, you know, relevant? I don't know.

We Wine Whenever (37:01.196)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (37:16.202)
Who knows? Who knows? Who knows? Yeah, who knows?

Kelli (37:20.977)
And to clear his name or or try to you know clean up the the shit show that he was involved in Listen, I again nobody's DMing us. Nobody's giving us any secret information and I'm good with that because You got some secret information

We Wine Whenever (37:31.124)
Right. Well, who knows? Nobody knows because it's all s-

We Wine Whenever (37:31.777)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (37:38.1)
Wait a second, wait a second, wait a second. I do want to tell you this. I want to tell you this. Now, I don't know if you guys know this.

We Wine Whenever (37:43.418)
Okay.

We Wine Whenever (37:49.76)
but we supposedly receive gift cards from Marge.

We Wine Whenever (37:54.958)
Really? I didn't know that. What are the gift cards for? Wait, what are they for?

We Wine Whenever (37:56.156)
Yes, yes, I left. I left so, I left so hard. It was some comment on social media that somebody made about one of our New Jersey podcasts. And they were like, something about, just take your gift cards from Marge And I was like, gift cards, question mark, question mark, question mark.

Kelli (37:56.183)
we do?

Kelli (38:02.875)
That's hysterical.

Kelli (38:20.571)
Sorry, Louie, we are not getting gift cards from Marge. We just don't like you.

We Wine Whenever (38:24.108)
I was like, cards, question mark, question mark, question mark. That's a new one. But I just want to let you know that nothing is good. Yes. Anyone. Yes. We'll say something nice about you. Any? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. It was hysterical. It was hysterical.

We Wine Whenever (38:31.672)
Listen, we will accept gift cards from anyone who would like to send them to us.

Kelli (38:37.413)
Margaret, if you're listening, we don't even talk about Margaret. Why would somebody accuse us of getting gift cards from Margaret? We don't even talk about her.

We Wine Whenever (38:46.764)
Listen, we're still gonna say the same stuff that we say, regardless of who sends us gift cards.

Kelli (38:50.349)
Exactly.

We Wine Whenever (38:51.04)
Yes. Right. We could be tad bit nicer to you if you send a gift card, but I think that's about it. But it depends on the day. It depends on the day.

Kelli (38:53.168)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (38:56.856)
Probably not. I mean, probably not. I mean, I mean...

Kelli (38:58.863)
I'm not. Teresa could send me a fucking Bentley right now. I'm not doing it.

We Wine Whenever (39:05.536)
Yeah, that'd be nice. Okay.

Kelli (39:07.225)
I know a Bentley that might sway me. No, only kidding.

We Wine Whenever (39:09.803)
No, no, no. But I thought that I thought the gift card thing was really, really, really funny. I thought it was hysterical. Yeah, it was great. All right. So sorry to interrupt.

We Wine Whenever (39:11.958)
Okay.

Kelli (39:18.575)
That's pretty funny.

We Wine Whenever (39:21.216)
All right. No, this is hysterical and I love it. So how about... No, that's what I just wanted to talk about. So they're sitting at the table. They are sitting at the table and everyone is eating and Mary looks over at somebody's caprese salad. She's like, oh, I want that. And then she sees everyone. She's like, I didn't get my food yet. And Lisa's like, well, what did you order? She's like, well, I ordered tomato and mozzarella. And Lisa's like, oh, I love a caprese salad.

Kelli (39:23.951)
We have not talked about Mary asking for pastrami

We Wine Whenever (39:29.046)
She's no funny.

We Wine Whenever (39:47.775)
And what else did you order? Well, I ordered pastrami soup and Meredith is like pastrami soup. I never heard of pastrami soup. Then Lisa says, then Lisa said stroganoff and Whitney said, I love stroganoff.

We Wine Whenever (39:52.278)
Thank

Kelli (39:57.861)
me neither, but I might like to try it.

We Wine Whenever (40:00.16)
Yeah, I like the strum.

We Wine Whenever (40:07.254)
I'm sure I'm gonna piss in my soupie either.

Kelli (40:10.961)
Sounds like us on a gummy night.

We Wine Whenever (40:11.864)
laughing hysterical and then Angie said minestrone soup and Mary said yes but that that whole conversation between pastrami stroked off and I was I never laughed so hard

Kelli (40:20.027)
Ding ding ding ding ding.

We Wine Whenever (40:28.938)
Let me just say this, right? Lisa and all her party planning skills and her PowerPoint and everything else, minestrone soup is not conducive of a Mexican tropical vacation. It's not. No, but I'm just saying, no matter, you didn't have to have gazpacho.

We Wine Whenever (40:33.45)
You

Kelli (40:45.859)
No, it's not a Mexican dish.

We Wine Whenever (40:54.518)
But it's just not a tropical, it's not something you would serve at a tropical location. It's not, so Lisa, yeah, Lisa stop with your party planning skills. Cause obviously that you had minestrone soup on the menu in Mexico just goes to show.

Kelli (41:00.805)
Yeah, the food seemed subpar.

Kelli (41:11.459)
Right. And a caprese salad. It's literally fresh moots and tomatoes. Come on now. Fresh basil.

We Wine Whenever (41:16.376)
Right. And basil. Fresh basil. Okay. I do not want to alarm you guys, but I have a low battery issue and I started at 100%. So we're going, we're going to need to wrap this up quick.

We Wine Whenever (41:31.308)
We'll wrap it up.

Kelli (41:34.289)
Let's wrap it up.

We Wine Whenever (41:35.734)
plus Wendy's freezing.

We Wine Whenever (41:37.551)
I am freezing. Let's get to the argument. So Brittany at the dinner table says Meredith asks her how she's feeling. Meredith says, I'm feeling okay. And Brittany says, well, you were tired earlier and I hope it's okay to say, but I heard you crying last night. Meredith said, well, I was upset last night and I cried and I'm fine now. Thank you for asking.

Kelli (42:02.159)
Yeah. And don't bring it up again.

We Wine Whenever (42:03.977)
Right, Bronwyn says, if you don't want to talk about it, that's okay, but I feel like it's a little awkward because it's wormed its way all the way down to me in the glam room when they're all talking about what's happening. And there's a lot to be concerned about, she was told, and Mary's saying, well, what's going on? I'm just trying to eat here, which I love that.

We Wine Whenever (42:26.828)
Right, and you guys are talking about throwing up.

Kelli (42:29.081)
Yeah, I agree with Mary. Let's not talk about vomit while we're eating.

We Wine Whenever (42:30.423)
Right, yeah, no, I 100 % agree. Well, Meredith said, well, I was upset about the slut shaming. It took her a couple seconds to come up with that.

We Wine Whenever (42:31.094)
Yeah, don't over-throwing up at the table, no.

We Wine Whenever (42:41.26)
Yeah, yeah. Nah.

Kelli (42:41.455)
It was not, that was not it.

We Wine Whenever (42:43.219)
And then Angie says to Meredith, thought we made up last night. I thought we were good. And Meredith says, I don't want to go backwards. And Lisa said, I think you should tell her how you feel. Meaning that Meredith and Lisa had some kind of conversation. Right? And Angie says to Lisa, agreed that we would stay out of each other's stuff, which they did. And Lisa says, don't tell me what to do and what not to do. And this is when

We Wine Whenever (42:55.884)
huh. Mm-hmm.

Kelli (43:10.801)
She said, about 20 times, Lisa?

We Wine Whenever (43:13.428)
Right, Angie's like, what, I'm gonna lunge at you like Lisa, like I'm gonna take a book, you know, a page out of your playbook? Lisa says, Angie, do you feel like a badass now? And Angie's like, I'm just trying to have this conversation with Meredith, like why are you jumping into it? Right? And Lisa said, like, nobody gives an F about your feelings. And Whitney's like, well, actually, I actually do. Like.

We Wine Whenever (43:30.124)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (43:38.225)
Nice.

We Wine Whenever (43:45.62)
She says, like, you don't get to be the dictator and pick and choose like what it is we talk about. right. And then Lisa says to Whitney, well, you've done some F'd up stuff to me. And what are you talking about? Like, what is it you're talking about?

We Wine Whenever (43:52.608)
Well, it's her trip, don't you know?

We Wine Whenever (44:06.41)
Do you know what she's talking about?

Kelli (44:08.101)
Well, accusing her of starting the Alibaba thing.

We Wine Whenever (44:15.518)
No, Lisa's saying that Whitney has done effed up stuff to her.

Kelli (44:20.185)
Right, because Whitney said that Lisa said she sells Alibaba products.

We Wine Whenever (44:24.607)
but it actually, right. It came from Meredith, right? Okay. I mean.

Kelli (44:29.093)
Yeah, but Lisa's name was supposedly the one thrown out there by Up and Atom.

We Wine Whenever (44:33.687)
All right. So then she, Whitney says, you're lucky because if I even look at you, you're, know, Lisa says to Whitney, you're lucky I even look at you cause you're a lying effing bitch. Like where did that come from? Like how does she go from zero to a hundred like that over, over what over, because Meredith was talking to Angie and then

Angie was telling Lisa not to talk about it and then Whitney was agreeing with her? It turns into this whole like...

We Wine Whenever (45:07.564)
Well...

We Wine Whenever (45:12.276)
I told you, this spotlight, the spotlight went off of Lisa. It was Lisa's trip. She did a PowerPoint. She put her Vita Vodka out there and then Bronwyn, Bronwyn stole the show and then she was pissed. That's what happened.

Kelli (45:12.465)
It gets nasty, it gets nasty real quick.

Kelli (45:19.056)
Yeah.

Kelli (45:25.167)
in big ol' letter.

Kelli (45:31.345)
That is correct. That is correct.

We Wine Whenever (45:32.788)
Yeah, that is what happened. I mean, that's pretty much what happens like

She says she's sick of this and she like gets up and she's like, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (45:43.332)
Literally, I'm...

Kelli (45:44.977)
She's leaving, she's going home, and Mary just wants her dessert.

We Wine Whenever (45:48.874)
Yeah, Mary's like, where's the dessert? What's up with that? Okay, so before we leave, what about the coming attraction?

We Wine Whenever (45:48.949)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (45:54.56)
Okay.

What about it?

Kelli (45:58.811)
Yeah, it was a while ago. Refresh my memory.

We Wine Whenever (46:00.82)
Yeah, seriously, what a...

We Wine Whenever (46:01.516)
The coming attraction when they're on the bus, leading up for the next time we have an episode, they're on the bus and they say, but the most hysterical thing for me was all of sudden, Meredith wakes up from her, let's say supposed, zany coma and it's like her famous line, you can leave, you're out of moving.

Kelli (46:09.595)
Somebody recorded them.

We Wine Whenever (46:11.638)
yes, yes, yes.

Kelli (46:22.961)
Her siesta.

We Wine Whenever (46:30.71)
Bus bro, what are you doing? What are you doing?

Kelli (46:36.561)
you throwing her out the door in a moving vehicle?

We Wine Whenever (46:38.15)
my god, you can lit like

We Wine Whenever (46:41.161)
haha

Kelli (46:42.811)
She says it again?

We Wine Whenever (46:44.342)
She says it again!

Kelli (46:46.345)
She's totally coming out with merch. You can leave.

We Wine Whenever (46:48.786)
you can leave. Nobody's going to buy it. Nobody's going to buy it. No, don't buy that merch. But check us out. Check out our website at wewinewhenever.com. Wewinewhenever.com. Check it out. We have merch coming out very soon. All right. My battery's dying. Please watch us, listen to us, give us five star reviews and check out our website. Until next time. Bye.

We Wine Whenever (46:48.869)
you can leave.

Kelli (46:52.513)
No, and nobody should. that's hysterical. Yeah, buy our merch.

We Wine Whenever (46:54.346)
And nobody's No.

We Wine Whenever (47:04.8)
Yes, very soon.

Kelli (47:13.211)
Bye. Bye.

We Wine Whenever (47:14.422)
Bye.