RHONY-Bitchy Becky and the Bedroom Battles

 RHONY-Bitchy Becky and the Bedroom Battles
 
RHONY Season 15, Episode 11: "Resorting to Madness"

The RHONY ladies embark on a chaotic trip to Puerto Rico filled with drama, awkward confrontations, and power plays over room assignments. Ubah’s refusal to accept a "tiny" room kicks off tension, with her considering a hotel alternative. Brynn stirs the pot by hiding Jessel’s suitcase and instigating conflicts, while Rebecca and Brynn clash over shared rooms and comments about motherhood. Erin tries to mend fences with Ubah, but group conversations devolve into accusations of gaslighting, resulting in fiery exchanges and shifting alliances.

The episode concludes with a strained dinner, debates over life choices, and hints of reconciliation juxtaposed with new grievances. Tensions simmer beneath moments of humor, delivering a quintessential Housewives cocktail of drama and sass.

Takeaways

• The humidity in Puerto Rico is a major topic of discussion.
• Room assignments lead to significant tension among the cast.
• Brynn's behavior raises eyebrows and concerns.
• Parenting experiences shape the dynamics of the group.
• Gaslighting accusations create further conflict.
• Poolside conversations reveal underlying issues.
• Cultural expectations clash with personal preferences at dinner.
• The group struggles with communication and understanding.
• Friendship dynamics are tested throughout the episode.
• The episode highlights the challenges of group vacations. Rebecca's emotional struggles highlight the personal challenges faced by reality TV stars.
• The discussion around Jenna's financial decisions reveals the complexities of personal priorities.
• The conversation about Brynn's comments on relationships showcases the nuances of perception in reality TV.
• Kelli emphasizes the importance of understanding the realities of parenthood.
• The contradictions in Brynn's statements reflect the challenges of authenticity in reality TV.
• Kelli and We Wine Whenever discuss the implications of lies and accountability in the reality TV world.
• The influence of Lisa Vanderpump as a puppet master in the dynamics of the show is a recurring theme.
• Family dynamics during the holidays can be complicated, as seen in the discussions about Kyle and Kim.
• The future of reality TV is uncertain, especially with the evolving narratives of its stars.
• The conversation highlights the importance of genuine connections amidst the drama of reality television.

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Transcript

We Wine Whenever (00:00.973)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever. I'm Wendy. We are talking about Real Housewives of New York, season 15, episode 11, Resorting to Madness. So we start out there going to Puerto Rico. So we see them in the airport at JFK. How were they retired? How was their retire getting onto the airplane?

Kelli (00:03.477)
I'm Kelly.

Kelli (00:25.834)
I feel like I had it written down.

Kelli (00:31.188)
I don't. I know the first thing I have is that nobody wanted to share a room with. And then Brynn assigned Rebecca to share with Psy.

We Wine Whenever (00:32.378)
it was in the very beginning too.

We Wine Whenever (00:38.636)
Hahaha!

We Wine Whenever (00:42.923)
Yes, that is true. So before that happens, they land in Puerto Rico and it's 90 degrees out and 74 % humidity. It's the humidity that's really tough. But Uba gets off that plane and she loves that weather. she, so funny. Everyone else is like, my gosh, it's so hot. And Uba's like, I love this weather. I'm not like hot and sticky. I'm not happy. And I'm like,

Kelli (00:54.38)
Yeah, that's tough, It's the humidity for sure.

Kelli (01:02.829)
She's...

Kelli (01:09.644)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (01:13.004)
So we find out that there's six bedrooms and Jenna and Raquel are going to share a bedroom and then Cy offers to share a room, but no one else, like you said, wants to share with her. So it's so ridiculous. So Brynn says, I will take the shit room. then Rebecca, why don't you share with Cy and then Jessel, and Ubi can have the nice rooms. That was bullshit.

Kelli (01:13.399)
Yeah.

Ha

Kelli (01:29.166)
It's ridiculous.

Kelli (01:41.376)
It was bullshit. Who the eff are you, Brynn?

We Wine Whenever (01:44.844)
And even Erin said, like, Rebecca, if you don't want to do that, speak up. But she didn't.

Kelli (01:52.684)
Yeah, but I didn't like that Erin said that Rebecca was scared of Brent. I don't think she's scared of Brent.

We Wine Whenever (01:57.52)
No, she's definitely not scared of Brann. think like, yeah, I think she was just waiting for the right time. Then they arrive at the house and they're greeted by the bartender with rum punch and the house manager is there. The ladies get inside the house and they just all go running like lunatics. And Uba goes into the kitchen, gets herself something to eat.

Kelli (01:59.714)
I think she's trying to figure it all out.

Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (02:25.074)
sitting in the backyard relaxing. She's like, I'm not going to run around. You know, I already said that, you know.

Kelli (02:31.662)
She already knows she's got a nice room with a bathroom.

We Wine Whenever (02:34.334)
Right. So when Brynn gets to the room that she thinks is the not nice room, she's like, okay, this will be my room. And then she goes and finds actually the room that is the shittiest room. And she's like, no, that's, that's, that's not good. Who can have that room? Even though you already said, right. And

Kelli (02:58.446)
Instead you'd need the shittiest room.

We Wine Whenever (03:03.187)
Literally, it does look like a utility closet.

Kelli (03:06.006)
It really does, they really shouldn't consider that a room. Not for a guest. Maybe somebody who's working there, but not for a guest. That's not a guest room.

We Wine Whenever (03:08.52)
No, no, they really, right, right, yeah. So even Sai goes and looks at it, mean, Uba goes and looks, she's too big for that room.

Kelli (03:21.176)
She was- she's way too big for that room. Tall, tall. Not otherwise. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (03:24.477)
Yes, tall. Exactly. Tall. Exactly. Then Rebecca says to Erin, I really don't, I don't really want to share a room. So Erin says that's, I said that to you in the car. And she's like, well, I didn't, you know, she didn't want to do it then. So Ubu goes out to the bartender and asks like, how do I get to the hotel from here? Like, you know, walking. Yep. And then she says, it's okay. I have more money than Brynn. I'll just get my own room in a hotel. Yeah.

Kelli (03:38.328)
Right.

Kelli (03:44.814)
She's gonna leave.

Kelli (03:52.11)
Good for her.

We Wine Whenever (03:54.186)
I would not stay in that room either.

Kelli (03:56.63)
I wouldn't stay in that room and I'm not that girl, I'm not that picky. I wouldn't have wanted to stay in that room. Certainly not if I had Uber's money.

We Wine Whenever (04:04.308)
No.

No, exactly. And when Brynn said she was gonna take the shittiest room and then renege on it.

Kelli (04:12.802)
Yep. Yep.

We Wine Whenever (04:14.924)
And Jenna understands because, you know, she's the girl who flew business because she didn't want to fly coach. So she gets it. She goes outside, goes outside. She's talking to the producer. She's like, I'm not staying in that tiny room. Meanwhile, they cut to Brynn who's unpacking her stuff and just like making herself at home in a room that she shouldn't be staying in. It should be Uba's room.

Kelli (04:21.602)
Right.

Kelli (04:38.894)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (04:40.469)
But now Erin agrees to share the room with Rebecca. So, is gonna take the tiny room, which was very nice. Right, it was very nice of Cy to say, I'll take this room, you know.

Kelli (04:47.394)
and Uba gets a nice room.

Kelli (04:52.544)
It was, it was. think that again, we say it every week, we're just seeing such a nicer, softer side of Psy.

We Wine Whenever (05:00.563)
Yes, yes.

So then, you know, Erin says that she wants, you know, to feel supported and Uber thanks her. And then we see that Brynn comes out and she says, what's the sharing problem? Like after everything has been already worked out, cause she made it this mess. Rebecca, why don't you just, why don't you want to share? And she said, like I shared last time.

with Jessel and you know I have four kids like I don't get alone time.

Kelli (05:39.404)
Wait, before we get to that, I just wanna bring something up. When Brynn first walked into the room with Jenna and Raquel, she gets down to her bathing suit, right? Like she starts basically taking her clothes off. Have you ever heard of queer bathing?

We Wine Whenever (05:41.937)
huh.

We Wine Whenever (05:52.567)
huh.

No.

Kelli (05:56.834)
basically what Brynn's doing, like pretending to flirt with lesbians, pretending to be into them, just to get the attention. And a lot of the LGBTQ plus community don't like it, and she needs to stop doing it.

We Wine Whenever (06:12.682)
Hmm

Kelli (06:14.348)
Yep, I saw that a lot on social media. I mean, we've been saying it. I didn't know there was an actual term for it. There is, and she's doing it. And they don't like it.

We Wine Whenever (06:19.39)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (06:27.164)
No, it's, it's, listen, it's immature.

Kelli (06:30.944)
It's immature and it's almost making a mockery of their sexuality. You're not into women, Brynn. You're just not. So stop pretending to be to get some kind of attention that you're craving. Do something else. Because you're not into women and you're making a mockery of their sexuality. I mean, listen, I have thought it, but again, I didn't know that it was an actual thing and

We Wine Whenever (06:47.987)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (06:53.703)
Yeah, I don't like it.

Kelli (07:01.038)
people in that community are saying it.

We Wine Whenever (07:04.35)
Yeah, she's gotta watch herself, she really does.

Kelli (07:06.722)
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (07:09.364)
So Rebecca says, you know, I have four kids. really wanted to, I shared last time with Jessel. I really wanted a room by myself.

We Wine Whenever (07:21.513)
Then Brynn says it has nothing to do with kids. We're all busy. And then Rebecca said, well, when you have kids of your own, you'll understand. listen.

Kelli (07:33.346)
don't love what she said, but one, Brynn had it coming, because she's been coming for Rock Hell all season. I mean, Rebecca, thank you. And two, she's right. Rebecca's right. When you have four kids jumping in your bed, like to be able to sleep and just sleep in and not have to worry about that is huge. It has nothing to do with being busy. Now Brynn does have a dog, so that's...

We Wine Whenever (07:37.769)
100%.

Rebecca. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (07:47.274)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (07:55.901)
Right.

Kelli (08:03.075)
That's, you know, similar, very similar.

We Wine Whenever (08:06.371)
No, you cannot compare a puppy to four children.

Kelli (08:08.866)
Well, no, because the dog, when the dog's gotta go out, the dog's hopping on your bed, waking you up to go out. I mean, that's annoying. That's annoying with a new puppy. It's not the same, I'm just saying it's somewhat similar. I don't love what Rebecca said, but I don't blame her for saying it. And I think Bryd had it coming to her.

We Wine Whenever (08:27.721)
Brinn definitely had it coming to her. In her confessional, you know, she said, I'm seeing red now because the worst thing anyone could have said to me is because you don't have kids or you'll understand when you have kids. And then she goes on to say, Rebecca, we don't need you coming into the Puerto Rican Villa, swinging your giant fallopian tubes around in our face. I was like, whoa, reminding us that you have so many children. And then she calls her bitchy Becky. Come on, Brinn.

Kelli (08:29.39)
Mmm.

Kelli (08:56.3)
You know, it's not something Brynn wouldn't say. Brynn would say something like that. She would.

We Wine Whenever (09:00.968)
and she did.

Kelli (09:03.672)
But I'm saying what Rebecca said to her. If Brynn knew her saying something would cut someone deep, she would do it.

We Wine Whenever (09:05.814)
yeah, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (09:12.326)
Yeah. And I, listen, I think Rebecca meant to cut her when she said it.

Kelli (09:14.264)
So.

Kelli (09:19.662)
Well, yeah, she basically admitted at the end of the episode.

We Wine Whenever (09:22.224)
Yeah. And then we see, then we see Jessel looking for her bag, like, like a lunatic and I felt so bad for her and they're like making

Kelli (09:25.774)
of

Kelli (09:31.746)
Would you freak? I would freak out. I would freak out.

We Wine Whenever (09:35.501)
I would too. I would too. Especially- I mean, why the heck did she have to do that?

Kelli (09:42.124)
and put it on the floor in the bathroom, like I would be, I'm a little bit of a germaphobe, I would have reacted the same way Jessel did.

We Wine Whenever (09:50.898)
Jessel was so calm about it, like in person. Like, again, she's, and she's always bullying Jessel.

Kelli (09:53.986)
She really was.

We Wine Whenever (10:02.438)
She makes fun of her clothes. She's always bullying Jessel.

Kelli (10:06.382)
She thinks she's funny, but she's not. Her and Erin, they think they're funny. They're really not.

We Wine Whenever (10:15.746)
No, no, they're really not. They're really not. Then Erin goes to talk to Uba, because she said she wants to put everything behind her. And she feels like the fact that she gave up her room for Uba will go a long way. And Uba says she was her and then Erin that Erin was telling the girls that she thinks Uba's coming for her. They apologize and they agree to move forward.

We Wine Whenever (10:43.248)
And then Jessel's still freaking out about her suitcase. No one's acknowledging her. Then finally she walks into the room with them and she's like, Jess, whoever has my suitcase, I need it now. And then Brynn takes her to it.

Kelli (10:55.096)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (10:57.116)
So they're still sitting down eating and no one is talking. It's very awkward. says she's gonna go get changed and Brynn says she can change her attitude also to Erin. Again, not called for. Like Erin's attitude was fine.

Kelli (11:11.726)
She's kind of the only one you're good with right now, so you might want to chill.

We Wine Whenever (11:13.785)
Right. So then Erin says, I'm going to push you in the pool. And Brynn says, you can't, can't get my hair wet.

So they both leave the room and then the ladies are asking them, Uba, about her conversation. Right, not yet she didn't. They're asking about the conversation that Uba had with Erin and she's explaining the conversation. And then Brynn gets up and goes into Erin's room and said, Uba's out there talking shit about you, which is not what was happening. She was just explaining what the conversation was.

Kelli (11:28.258)
Well, Brynn didn't leave the room.

Kelli (11:47.458)
And literally exactly what she said to Erin to her face is what she said to the ladies. Like, I think that you guess right. I think that's what you do.

We Wine Whenever (11:56.398)
Right, right, right.

Kelli (12:00.344)
She's entitled to her own opinion and Erin, if it bothers Erin, Erin can do what she wants now to prove Uba wrong or she could not give an F and continue with her life.

We Wine Whenever (12:12.878)
Right. But they had squashed it at that point. Like they were going to move forward. They were going to move forward. Right. Right.

Kelli (12:15.406)
Absolutely, but Uba said, I still think you're a gaslater. And pretty much that's all she said. And then Brynn went and said, she's talking shit about you. She's an asshole Brynn, she really is.

We Wine Whenever (12:25.112)
Right. She really is? So then Erin goes back to the table and sits down and said, as soon as I walk out of the room, I hear you guys start talking about me.

We Wine Whenever (12:41.967)
And then Brynn sits down also and Erin said, you just told me they were talking shit about me. And she said, no, I didn't. I didn't say they were talking shit. Meanwhile, that's exactly what she said. Those were her exact words.

Kelli (12:50.456)
and then they roll tape.

Kelli (12:54.764)
and they roll the tape and you see what she said.

We Wine Whenever (12:57.198)
Right. Erin said, well, what did I do? Rebecca said, she is kind of defending you, but she's putting words in Uber's mouth. And I don't think Rebecca realized what Brynn had told her, you know, cause Brynn wasn't defending her.

Kelli (13:17.931)
no, right, right, right, now, right.

We Wine Whenever (13:19.222)
Right. So.

Uba says, I can't change how I feel. I don't think I'm the only one who feels like meeting the gaslighting. And Sai says, well, I think you gaslight everyone. You do bizarre things. And I'm just like, no, is this now gonna blow up? And Erin says, well, how do I gaslight her? Meeting Rebecca. Sai said, well, in Central Park, the way you were talking to Rebecca. And then Erin's like, that's it, I'm done. She gets up and she walks out.

Kelli (13:37.634)
Yeah, here we go.

We Wine Whenever (13:53.673)
And I was like, is this what this whole ship is going to be like? But much.

Kelli (13:59.208)
I was right though, she said Bryn's feeding Erin a line. And she was. And Erin's falling for it.

We Wine Whenever (14:02.694)
Yes, yes. Yep. And much to my surprise, Uba got up and went after her. You know, absolutely. She's like, listen, you know what? You bitches didn't switch rooms for me. I'm going after her.

Kelli (14:12.556)
Yeah, yeah, that was good.

Kelli (14:20.834)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (14:23.994)
And she did, and I'm glad that she did because that whole thing was ridiculous.

Kelli (14:24.227)
Yeah.

Kelli (14:29.654)
Yeah, it really was. And it was all Brynn's fault.

We Wine Whenever (14:33.048)
It was totally Bryn's fault. It was totally her fault.

Kelli (14:36.394)
It's like, it's almost like it's like middle school where like she doesn't want Aaron to be friends with anybody else. She wants Aaron to only be her friend.

We Wine Whenever (14:46.746)
The problem is the woman is 39 years old. I mean it's just ridiculous the way she's acting.

Kelli (14:49.568)
I know!

Kelli (14:56.098)
I know people who still act like that and they're in their 50s.

We Wine Whenever (14:59.16)
gosh. It's crazy. It's just craziness.

Kelli (15:02.666)
It is crazy, like how insecure are you? That's what it comes down to. It comes down to insecurity.

We Wine Whenever (15:09.487)
Yeah, but still.

Kelli (15:11.092)
I totally agree. can't. I can't.

We Wine Whenever (15:14.084)
So, Uba and Aaron are good now. They all go out in the backyard to get in the pool and they kind of are split up in the pool a little bit. Brynn is yelling to the guys on the golf course. Jessel says, those guys are probably old, like 54. Jenna says, 56, by the way. I'm just like, poor Jessel. So the breakup of the pool is Raquel, Uba and Brynn are all in one section of the pool.

And Brynn says, look, all the black girls are in the pool in Puerto Rico together. Okay, but the other girls were in the pool too. And Brynn's telling the girls about the conversation with Rebecca about the room sharing and what she said. And Raquel thinks that if that came from someone other than Rebecca, Brynn wouldn't have been so hurt by it.

Like it wouldn't have fazed her if somebody else said it. She's like, if I said that to her, you know, she probably wouldn't have, because she does have a problem with Rebecca for whatever reason.

Kelli (16:17.336)
She definitely has a problem with Rebecca, but I do think it would still bother her just because of her journey of becoming a mother. I do, but yeah, Rebecca was not the one to say it because that cut a little deeper.

We Wine Whenever (16:25.284)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (16:29.029)
Right. Right.

Exactly. So on the other side of the pool is Erin, Rebecca, Jessel and Jenna. And Erin asks Rebecca, like what she said to Brynn that upset her. And she tells her about, you know, the kids thing. And they're all looking over at Uba and talking about, you know, Uba's boobs and how good they are. What great shape. Yeah. She's got an amazing body. Yeah. I mean, her genes are phenomenal.

Kelli (16:51.0)
They really are though.

She really, really does.

Kelli (16:59.084)
Yes. Yes.

We Wine Whenever (17:02.785)
She's gonna make beautiful babies.

Kelli (17:05.996)
Yes, she is. Yes, she is.

We Wine Whenever (17:11.8)
Jessel said, I think you were way too nice to Rebecca.

We Wine Whenever (17:18.164)
she said it to Rebecca referring to Brynn. She thought Rebecca was way too nice to Brynn. She thought that she should have, you know, stood up to her. And Rebecca is, they ask her like, is there some point that you're gonna fight back? And she says, you know, like, I guess when the time is right, you know, I'll do what I gotta do. And we do see that she does do what she has to do.

Kelli (17:44.78)
Right, right.

We Wine Whenever (17:47.861)
Then they all get in the car and they're on their way to dinner.

I thought it was cute that Erin thought that Uber was missing, but she was actually all the way in the back of the car. But at least she's like paying attention. Like, you know, we can't leave without her, you know?

Kelli (17:58.796)
Me?

Kelli (18:06.144)
Yes, yes, that was nice.

We Wine Whenever (18:09.067)
then they start complaining that they're going to a Mediterranean restaurant for dinner when they're in Puerto Rico. Once again, these bitches cannot be happy.

Kelli (18:20.428)
They really can't. I have to be honest with you, I'm extremely tired of watching housewives argue over their rooms on vacation. Probably because I don't vacation that often.

We Wine Whenever (18:32.929)
Yeah, really. And be happy to have any room.

Kelli (18:35.502)
But honestly, for the love of God production, start booking places that have individual rooms for each person with their own fucking bathroom with a bathtub. And if wherever locale you're going to doesn't have that, find a new locale. Because I can't anymore. It's so annoying.

We Wine Whenever (19:00.075)
It is annoying. I agree. I agree!

Kelli (19:03.138)
I mean, I see their point, they wanna eat authentic Puerto Rican food, but you're not only there for one day, I'm sure you're gonna get that while you're there for crying out loud.

We Wine Whenever (19:09.046)
Exactly.

Exactly, exactly.

Kelli (19:14.06)
Yeah, bitches be trippin', as our friend Glenn would say.

We Wine Whenever (19:16.503)
Mm-hmm.

So then they get seated at the restaurant and Rebecca's like, we need to order soon, my blood sugar's getting low. Yeah, and Bryn's make some comment like under her breath about that.

Kelli (19:29.301)
Mm-hmm, I'm with her.

Kelli (19:35.888)
she in her confessional, she says Rebecca needs a bottle or something like that. She's so, I mean, so stupid.

We Wine Whenever (19:39.435)
yeah, yeah, that's what she, yeah, so stupid. They asked Jenna if she was getting emotional about selling her clothes and you know, she said, yeah, you know, it.

We Wine Whenever (19:53.837)
They also asked if the money was actually going towards her teeth. I mean, I think that it is based on what she said, right? Yeah, she said she spent so many years like spending so much money working on her teeth and you know.

Kelli (20:02.894)
I think it is too, yeah.

Kelli (20:10.21)
And she's right, insurance doesn't cover the expensive stuff. And that stuff is so expensive.

We Wine Whenever (20:15.235)
expensive, right, right. And it's not, it's not like it's because she has a problem. It's not like, it's not like you get implants and you're done. I think this is something that she has to keep doing over and over and over again because of the way her, her mouth is, right? It's not like you do it once and you're done.

Kelli (20:18.894)
So.

Kelli (20:28.45)
Right. Right.

Kelli (20:33.612)
Right.

Right. Yes. Right.

We Wine Whenever (20:40.642)
And then Brynn says, thought, well, you just bought that Bentley. And she's like, no, I didn't buy the Bentley. They just lent it to me. It wasn't even like a collab. Like they just lent it to me. That is something.

Kelli (20:53.88)
something, huh?

Kelli (20:57.634)
I was surprised she said it.

We Wine Whenever (20:59.402)
Yeah.

I mean, I think, you know, who was really surprised is Jessel. Like Jessel in her confessionals, she's like, maybe those diamonds are CZs too. I'm like.

Kelli (21:11.66)
Listen, don't sleep on CZs, all right, Jessel?

We Wine Whenever (21:14.58)
Yeah, I agree don't sleep on CZs, but just because she admitted it wasn't her Bentley doesn't mean that her diamonds aren't real. Like, you know what mean?

Kelli (21:22.016)
Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (21:26.594)
So they're talking about, Raquel's talking about her mom's coming for breakfast and she hasn't seen her mom in six years.

Kelli (21:36.632)
How sad this woman is in her 50s and doesn't know she can act like herself in front of her own mother. That's really, really sad.

We Wine Whenever (21:42.56)
That's sad.

It is sad. I think it's interesting that her mom is bringing her new boyfriend too.

Kelli (21:51.948)
Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (21:53.441)
You know? And she tells Brynn that he's a little too old for her. And she said, well, if he's not on a ventilator, that's fine with me.

Kelli (22:04.302)
Keep it classy, Bryn. Keepin' it classy.

We Wine Whenever (22:05.588)
Yep. Yep.

Kelli (22:10.734)
What'd she say about Russian billionaires calling her?

We Wine Whenever (22:13.574)
my gosh, when did that happen?

Kelli (22:17.94)
I don't know if I'd be like flexing on that.

We Wine Whenever (22:21.13)
Okay, yes, so that happened. So, Sy says she can't wait to go back to her little room. She said it's actually kind of cozy. Erin says, ended up sharing a room. says, I just don't like sharing. Nobody likes to share. Brynn says, apparently I don't understand it yet because I don't have kids yet. So I don't understand. So Erin says, no, I'll tell you what she meant. What she meant is when you have kids and they come in your bed at night, it's not like a full night's sleep. Brynn says, I know, but it's like,

I have puppies. have Russian billionaires calling me. I know what it's like," says. I don't need to have children to understand difficulties. Come on Brynn, once again, you are putting yourself in a position that you have Russian billionaires calling you. So what are they paying for you in the middle of the night waking you up?

Kelli (23:11.662)
Well, exactly, why would you do that? Why would you put it out there that Russian billionaires are calling you in the middle of the night? Just like you said, is that like some kind of proposition? But then you get mad at Jeff Lewis for asking if you have a sugar daddy. She's like a walking contradiction. And I'm not trying to minimize what she said last week about her essay. I'm not trying to minimize that at all. other than that,

We Wine Whenever (23:14.217)
Right, why would you? Right.

We Wine Whenever (23:23.508)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (23:29.313)
All

We Wine Whenever (23:37.629)
No, no.

Kelli (23:40.49)
everything else is like a big, giant contradiction.

We Wine Whenever (23:45.108)
No, I agree. I 100 % agree. Then Rebecca says we can agree to disagree. Brynn says, you can just agree that it's shitty what you said, Rebecca. I think saying, I think you've been saying really shitty stuff to me since we met. And Brynn says, I don't need you to teach me anything. I'm the teacher and you're the student.

Kelli (24:09.346)
Yeah, what did that mean?

We Wine Whenever (24:10.728)
I have no idea. And then Rebecca says you seem to thrive off being a bully. And it's true, she does. She really does bully her around. And she does it to Jessel too.

Kelli (24:13.048)
Yeah.

Kelli (24:21.602)
Yeah. And listen, the bottom line is you don't know what it's like to have kids until you have kids. You just don't. You don't know what it's like to have to put your entire self on hold. You don't know what it's like to have to put other people before yourself. And that's what it is.

We Wine Whenever (24:46.484)
I know it, you know, I've been reading online. I haven't looked into it, but apparently she's been lying about a lot of stuff and it's all coming out. Yeah. So I don't remember in the first season, did she say that? Yeah, she did. She said that she had eggs frozen, right? But she actually didn't because beginning of this season, she said she went to London and did it. She just did it.

Kelli (24:57.912)
Brynn?

Kelli (25:08.462)
Yeah.

Kelli (25:15.82)
Yeah. okay. I didn't realize she just did it. I thought when she said it in the first season, they were already in London.

We Wine Whenever (25:24.073)
No, they were not. They were not. And that's one of the lies that she's being called out on. And there's other things, like she just like blatantly lies about stuff.

Kelli (25:29.838)
Why?

We Wine Whenever (25:39.24)
And she's like, she doesn't even own up to it. Like she doesn't even admit to it, which is bizarre.

Kelli (25:47.298)
Yeah.

Nobody likes being called out on their shit.

We Wine Whenever (25:53.16)
No, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know where this is going to go. you know.

Kelli (25:57.838)
I either, but apparently it blows up between her and Uba, huh?

We Wine Whenever (26:02.016)
And it must be, it must be on this trip, right? Because 13, did I say 13 or 11? No, we're, yeah, we're on 11. We're on 11. So episode 11.

Kelli (26:04.652)
Yeah, I would imagine because what did you say we're on? What episode are we on? I think Salt Lake City was 13, wasn't it?

Kelli (26:16.172)
You know, it's so funny. I listen to Teddy and Tamara on 2T's recap Salt Lake City. And it's every week. And I swear people, we don't listen. I don't listen until after we tape. It's almost identical, their conversations to ours. Like they're bringing up the same things we're bringing up. Yeah, because I was listening to it yesterday on my way to the salon and I'm like, my God, this is, forget. I forget the specifics, but the one thing.

We Wine Whenever (26:22.068)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (26:29.193)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (26:33.779)
Really? That's so funny.

Kelli (26:43.756)
I'm like, my God, that's exactly what we said. Like that's exactly what we were questioning.

We Wine Whenever (26:49.107)
That's funny, because I told you, I don't, barely listen to them at all anymore, because I don't, I just am so annoyed with Tamara and even Teddy. I'm annoyed with Teddy too.

Kelli (26:57.974)
I know me too, but I still do like listening to them. don't know why. Yeah, I still like their recaps. I really do. Yeah, I don't, you know, I think she's been better about this, Tamara, like before, well, when they interview people, like when they have people on, I feel like Tamara's like a big giant name dropper. You know?

We Wine Whenever (27:00.703)
It's you can you don't have to apologize like you know

It's okay.

Kelli (27:22.956)
Like if anybody, like if somebody from the Bravo world is on and they mentioned like somebody and she's like, yeah, I know them. Yeah, I was with them. Yes, I was just talking to them. It's like, all right, relax. Yeah, just go. But I do like their recaps.

We Wine Whenever (27:32.999)
Yeah, calm down, just calm down.

I don't have anything else for New York, do you?

Kelli (27:45.098)
No, I don't have anything else from New York. And I don't... wow. I don't think we've talked about this, but James Kennedy? Wait, did we talk about it?

We Wine Whenever (27:49.981)
What, you got-

I don't think we did. Yeah. and we talked about it a little bit. did. Yeah, but I think since we talked about it, what's her name? Allie came out with a statement.

Kelli (27:56.802)
That's upsetting.

I think we did.

Kelli (28:07.778)
Yeah, she made a statement. So obviously it was about her. It was with her.

We Wine Whenever (28:12.999)
well yes and because the report came out the police report came out and it said that she said that he picked her up and through her

We Wine Whenever (28:26.109)
Yeah. And according to people at the party, because it was after Kathy Hilton's party, he was causing a commotion there too. I guess because he was intoxicated or whatever, whatever set him off.

Kelli (28:37.068)
Right, right, right. Because he was drinking.

We Wine Whenever (28:40.775)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (28:42.508)
Right, we did talk about it because you said you're curious to see what Lala says.

We Wine Whenever (28:46.94)
I am curious to see what Lala says.

Kelli (28:50.816)
I am happy. I mean, I don't know if we're going to watch it. Are we going to watch the reboot of Vanderpump?

We Wine Whenever (28:56.529)
I don't know.

Kelli (28:58.892)
I feel like I might be too old to watch this. Right?

We Wine Whenever (29:01.19)
I feel the same. I maybe we wait and see. Like, wait, I don't know.

Kelli (29:06.616)
But I am happy that Peter's gonna be on it. I'm sure in as big of a role as he was in the last one, which isn't big at all. But I always liked Peter. he definitely got screwed. They wanted him to film the last season without being paid. I mean, what the F? Like all the money you're making? And shame on Lisa Vanderpump for even allowing that to be a thing.

We Wine Whenever (29:14.898)
He was, he totally got screwed.

We Wine Whenever (29:23.326)
That's ridiculous.

We Wine Whenever (29:28.112)
I know, it's ridiculous.

We Wine Whenever (29:33.883)
She's the executive producer.

Kelli (29:35.85)
Right, so come on Lisa.

We Wine Whenever (29:41.028)
She picks and chooses who she likes.

Kelli (29:41.038)
There's something wrong with

Yeah, you will you sent the video to me of dr. Debrow terry debrow talking about brandy glanville. So hopefully

We Wine Whenever (29:50.865)
yes. Let's talk about that. So Brandi responded. Yeah, she responded. She didn't take any offense to it. She's always had a good relationship with Dr. Dubrow and they've spoke and they are going to continue to talk and he's going to see if he can help her. And one of the things she did say is that she's already, she's going to talk about it on her podcast too. So I'm going to find her podcast and start listening to her.

Kelli (29:54.637)
good.

Kelli (30:00.481)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (30:16.861)
She had all the fillers removed from her face and she's been seeing all the top doctors at Cedars-Sinai. But, you know, like I said, you know, the video was heartbreaking. It really was like just watching her online and her face. And I'm glad that I'm glad that TMZ asked Terry Zabro otherwise that probably would have never happened. Right?

Kelli (30:30.51)
this.

Kelli (30:39.766)
No, I totally agree. mean, you know, yeah. And I think Terry's a good guy and Paul Nassif is a good guy and hopefully they'll really help her. I mean, she kind of had a thing with Nassif's ex. What's her name? Adrian Maloof, yeah. Because remember, I guess they used a surrogate and Brandy said it on camera, but it never aired.

We Wine Whenever (30:48.348)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (30:56.027)
Adrian Maloof.

Kelli (31:07.064)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (31:09.341)
Why does she do stupid shit like that? Why do people do stupid shit?

Kelli (31:12.226)
because I Lisa Vanderpump told her to do it.

We Wine Whenever (31:14.723)
I could... I'm sure that's probably it.

Kelli (31:17.066)
I think Lisa Vanderpump told her to do it because that's when Lisa was beefing with Adrian before Adrian. And I mean, I do believe that that's why Adrian left the show, but they never aired it. It came out like after what it was. But yeah, just like Lisa told Brandy to bring the magazines on that vacation that alluded to Maurizio cheating on Kyle. And that's when Lisa and Kyle were good.

We Wine Whenever (31:21.873)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (31:30.407)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (31:43.228)
Yeah.

Kelli (31:43.604)
She was a puppet master, Lisa. I really truly believe that. I like her. I thought she made good TV, but I think that's what she was doing.

We Wine Whenever (31:48.315)
Yeah, just like she... Yeah.

she definitely was. mean, because she was involved in the Lisa Rinna Munchausens against Foster, Yolanda Foster. She was behind the whole puppy gate with, with Teddy and Dorie. Like she was behind all that. And she was reporting it to the tabloids. So yeah. And when she got called out on it, she's like, okay, I can't, you know, I'm not going to come back. Yeah. I'm just not going to come back.

Kelli (31:59.606)
Yep. Yep.

Kelli (32:11.383)
Yep, yep.

Kelli (32:18.828)
and just didn't show up. Yep, and just didn't show up for the reunion.

We Wine Whenever (32:22.33)
I'm not gonna own my shit.

Kelli (32:24.172)
Yep. Yep.

We Wine Whenever (32:27.526)
Crazy.

Kelli (32:28.76)
I don't miss her, I don't miss Lisa Vanderpump at all. I know a lot of people do.

We Wine Whenever (32:34.396)
I don't miss her either.

Kelli (32:35.83)
Once you got wise to that kind of behavior, it's like, I mean, you could go way back and say, she's the reason that Camille said to Taylor, you know, we don't talk about the fact that Russell hits you. Cause I think Lisa was behind that too. Season two.

We Wine Whenever (32:38.694)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (32:54.501)
Wow.

Kelli (32:57.07)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (32:59.814)
And you said Camille's coming back next week?

Kelli (33:02.636)
Yeah, mean, hopefully it's just for one episode, because I can't really stomach her.

I really can't. She just comes in and it's like nonsense. It's for nonsense. I mean, does she want to be back on the show?

We Wine Whenever (33:09.806)
you

We Wine Whenever (33:16.06)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (33:20.103)
I think she always wants something, What does she do? Like, what does she do?

Kelli (33:22.474)
Yeah. I mean, she's got Kelsey Grammer money. She don't have to do anything. But if she wanted to be back on the show, I'm curious as to why they wouldn't just bring her back on the show, at least as a friend of maybe she's maybe because she's not friends with anyone. She just pops up at all these like she pops up at these dinners. Remember the dinner with her and Denise where Denise's jacket was on upside down.

We Wine Whenever (33:28.284)
Hmm.

We Wine Whenever (33:42.809)
I think she-

We Wine Whenever (33:47.084)
Yes, yes.

Kelli (33:49.026)
That was so classic. my God.

We Wine Whenever (33:51.046)
That was hysterical.

That was hysterical. I did see an update too from Kathy Hilton about Kim, that Kim is doing well and that they will all be spending Christmas together. Yes, I'm glad to hear that too. And Kyle wasn't sure if she was going to be cooking dinner or not for Christmas day or if like Paris wants to have it at her house, but everyone likes the way Kyle cooks dinner.

Kelli (33:56.088)
That was good.

Kelli (34:07.044)
that's good. I'm glad to hear that.

We Wine Whenever (34:21.008)
So they weren't sure exactly what was gonna happen, but they're gonna be together, all of them. And I was happy to hear that.

Kelli (34:27.308)
It's impressive that it sounds like Kyle actually does the cooking and I would imagine that there's a large number of people at that event.

We Wine Whenever (34:35.593)
I would imagine so too.

Kelli (34:37.07)
So it's impressive if she really is cooking for all those people because that's a lot. I max out at, if I like Easter, well no, I still order some food too. And that's like 20, 25 people.

We Wine Whenever (34:52.261)
Well, I think she likes doing it. think she enjoys doing it. Yeah. And they, and she said they like her food, so.

Kelli (34:53.986)
I think she does too, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean. It sounds like she actually does the cooking.

We Wine Whenever (35:02.765)
Yeah, yeah, good for her. All right.

Kelli (35:05.76)
Yeah. So the shows are going to be on hiatus after this. So this week we'll watch, we'll recap at some point, but we kind of have two weeks to play around with it because the shows aren't going to be on because it's Christmas Eve and Christmas Day that they would film, I mean air.

We Wine Whenever (35:21.679)
Right. And then New Year's Eve and New Year's Day.

Kelli (35:24.726)
Right, I know Beverly Hills is definitely not on, no wait, what's on Wednesday? Salt Lake City, because it's New Year's Day, Christmas Day. I would imagine New York and Beverly Hills aren't.

We Wine Whenever (35:40.251)
Yeah, we'll have to just, yeah, we'll check the schedule and we'll let you know. We may, our schedule may be little wonky because of the holidays too and all the crazy stuff we have to do, but we're going to be doing some other stuff so just kind of stay tuned.

Kelli (35:42.221)
We'll check the schedule.

Kelli (35:49.569)
Yeah.

Kelli (35:53.708)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we do have other non-Bravo things planned to coming up, which is music to Lori's ears.

We Wine Whenever (35:59.258)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (36:02.842)
We have an interview coming up too in January too, so stay tuned. Stay tuned. All right, until next time. Bye.

Kelli (36:04.91)
You

Yes. Yes.

Kelli (36:13.73)
Bye.