RHOSLC-Shampoo, Slut-Shaming, and Sparkles

RHOSLC-Shampoo, Slut-Shaming, and Sparkles
RHOSLC S5 E13 – "Rooms for Improvement"
The episode kicks off with Meredith and her family reflecting on past tensions while discussing bath bombs. Meredith reveals that her feud with Angie was reignited during her son’s bar mitzvah, with Angie making personal attacks about her hearing aids. Meanwhile, Angie confides in her husband Sean about her embarrassment over the bar mitzvah drama and receives a surprise visit from Mary, leading to a heartfelt conversation about parenting challenges and addiction.

The ladies prepare for a group trip to Mexico, with Lisa meticulously planning every detail. However, villa assignments spark tension as Bronwyn feels excluded from Lisa’s “cool girl club.” The group dynamics quickly unravel at a dinner, with Meredith returning Angie’s gift of sulfate-laden shampoo in a symbolic jab. Heated arguments over past insults, slut-shaming accusations, and room assignments escalate, culminating in an explosive dinner scene. Despite the chaos, Meredith and Angie tentatively agree to move forward, though the fragile peace leaves much unresolved.

Takeaways

• The episode highlights the ongoing drama in the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.
• Meredith's attempts to divert attention to her bath bombs reveal deeper family issues.
• Angie's emotional confession raises questions about the authenticity of the show's drama.
• Mary's vulnerability regarding her son's struggles with addiction resonates with many viewers.
• The hosts emphasize the importance of understanding addiction as a disease.
• Meredith's dishonesty about her hair products sparks a discussion about authenticity on reality TV.
• The conversation touches on the impact of family dynamics on personal struggles.
• The hosts express empathy for Mary's situation as a parent dealing with addiction.
• The episode showcases the blend of humor and serious topics in reality TV discussions.
• The hosts reflect on the absurdity of some reality TV moments, like Meredith's bikini choice. Fashion choices can be controversial, especially regarding age appropriateness.
• Gift-giving can lead to unexpected tensions among friends.
• Responsibility in pet ownership is crucial, especially after incidents.
• Travel dynamics can reveal underlying relationship issues.
• Villa assignments can create drama and highlight friendship hierarchies.
• PowerPoint presentations on trips can be seen as over-the-top.
• Dinner conversations can escalate into significant disputes.
• Understanding and communication are key in friendships.
• Some characters may feel like pawns in others' games.
• Not everyone is capable of deep emotional connections. Conflict often arises from miscommunication among friends.
• Gift exchanges can sometimes lead to unexpected tensions.
• Slut-shaming is a serious issue that needs to be addressed.
• Dining scenes can amplify drama in reality TV.
• Rumors about relationships can impact cast dynamics.
• Sex positivity should be approached with honesty.
• Reconciliation is possible even after public disputes.
• Hidden microphones can lead to unexpected revelations.
• Nostalgia for past seasons can enhance viewer engagement.
• Merchandising can be a fun way to connect with fans.

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Transcript

We Wine Whenever (00:00.662)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:03.388)
I'm Kelly.

We Wine Whenever (00:04.256)
and I'm Lori.

We Wine Whenever (00:05.966)
We're talking about Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, season five, episode 13. I can't believe we're on 13.

We Wine Whenever (00:14.444)
I know.

Kelli (00:14.803)
Episode 13? Wow! I can't believe that either!

We Wine Whenever (00:16.0)
Yes, I know.

I mean, they did just do the reunion. Like they just taped the reunion. So this one's called Rooms for Improvement. These names. Okay. So we start out at Meredith's house and she's there with Brooks, Chloe, Seth, and she starts talking about her bath bombs. And Seth is like, let's forget about the bath bombs. We can talk about that whenever you want. What happened at the Baden Witzva that set you off? Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (00:21.281)
Went quick.

Kelli (00:45.011)
Hmm?

Good job, Seth. They totally talked about that prior to that scene starting. She's like, I'm gonna try to talk about my bath bombs, because I need to talk about my bath bombs to drop my program. You're gonna cut me off and you're gonna tell me to talk about the bat mitzvah.

We Wine Whenever (00:50.964)
And she's

We Wine Whenever (00:54.517)
I'm sure.

We Wine Whenever (00:54.742)
You think?

We Wine Whenever (00:58.815)
Right. Right.

We Wine Whenever (01:04.869)
because she never lets an opportunity pass to plug, plug, plug. Her and Lisa are like neck and neck with the plugging.

Kelli (01:13.713)
Yeah. Yes. Yes.

We Wine Whenever (01:15.637)
Yes. Yeah. So Meredith says it all started up when Brooks came up to me and said, go check on Brittany. She's crying.

Angie continually hits below the belt. It's mean girl behavior, she says. It triggered the hell out of me. Well, it did trigger her. You could see like she just like saw red. And then Chloe says, what got me is when Sean said you should listen to both sides of it. And Meredith says, I don't need to listen to both sides of it. She's always coming for me, mentioning my hearing aids and my impairment, my disability. Brooke says, it's not a disability. It's your superpower. What?

Kelli (01:37.971)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (01:58.653)
First of all, this is the first time we've ever even heard about her hearing impairment. We have?

We Wine Whenever (01:58.743)
Chloe says.

No, we've heard about them before. Yeah, no, we have. Yeah, we have. Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (02:04.619)
Yeah, at Palm Springs, at Palm Springs in the hot tub. She's, she announced it. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (02:12.02)
Yeah. And Chloe's... No, she's not. That's again, that's just another way for her to... Now she wants to be protected by the ADA. It's just another way for her to make it about her. Right? Right? It's just about her making it about her. Right?

Kelli (02:13.075)
think Angie's always coming for your hearing impairment marriage.

We Wine Whenever (02:21.483)
Yeah.

Kelli (02:24.573)
That's a point. Yeah. Yes. Yes.

We Wine Whenever (02:24.717)
That's true.

Man, what is she getting her kids involved for, Meredith? Stop. Yeah, right?

Kelli (02:32.359)
Yes.

Well, I'm gonna tell you guys something and I don't know if we're here yet, but before I forget The bottle of shampoo

We Wine Whenever (02:35.276)
Cause they need camera time.

We Wine Whenever (02:40.032)
Okay.

We Wine Whenever (02:44.18)
Yes, the sulfates.

Kelli (02:45.135)
Okay, so Angie gave her a bottle of the Kerastase, I believe that's how you pronounce it, I could be wrong, shampoo. She hands it to her daughter and she says, she knows I have a keratin treatment and I can't use this because there, and so the daughter picks up the bottle and says, yeah, this has sulfates in it. Okay, well I looked it up. Kerastase products, they are sulfate free.

We Wine Whenever (02:51.337)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (03:12.267)
Nah!

Kelli (03:13.999)
It says it right there.

We Wine Whenever (03:16.503)
There you go. Say, there you go.

We Wine Whenever (03:17.961)
I didn't know the brand name of the shampoo. I'm so glad that you brought this up.

Kelli (03:22.299)
Yeah, it is, is, like yes, if you have a keratin treatment, you have to use sulfate-free products. That is true. But that is a sulfate-free product. So Meredith lied on camera and now she has her daughter lying on camera. This is why Reed doesn't want to film with you, Meredith. You're a fucking hot mess.

We Wine Whenever (03:38.38)
Well...

Yeah, absolutely. Right. Well, they're like $200 a bottle.

Kelli (03:46.515)
I'm sure it is. I didn't even look at the price, Lore. this is 42.

We Wine Whenever (03:48.109)
Yeah, they're like, well, Angie said it on the after show or something.

We Wine Whenever (03:53.58)
No, Brittany. So Brittany was on the after show. no, Brittany was on Watch What Happens Live. I didn't see the whole Watch What Happens Live. I just saw this clip and Andy said, your hair looks really good. And she said, Karastasi. And he's like, good. She said, I have an endorsement deal or coming. Yes. So I'm like, you know who's not getting one now that you just said that is Meredith who just lied about them.

Kelli (04:11.847)
I knew it. I knew it.

We Wine Whenever (04:19.341)
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yeah.

Kelli (04:19.409)
Yeah, yeah, yep.

We Wine Whenever (04:22.186)
Yeah, so she has an endorsement deal with Karastasi. Yeah, good for her is right.

Kelli (04:24.733)
Good for her. I'm surprised it didn't go to Lisa because she's the one that said you need the treatment. It was Brittany that said that?

We Wine Whenever (04:33.385)
It was Brittany that said it because she's the one who needed the treatment and she's the one who got the treatment. Is the treatment a shampoo? Yeah, is the treatment the shampoo the same thing?

Kelli (04:37.489)
Yes, she did. So was she on, she was on Watch What Happens Live?

Kelli (04:45.689)
No, I'm sure there's an actual treatment that the treatment that Laurie's talking about was probably $200. It's probably like a keratin, like keratins, you know.

We Wine Whenever (04:47.167)
No, I think it's different because

We Wine Whenever (04:56.383)
No, no, no, no, no. The shampoo and the conditioner were each $200 each.

Kelli (05:04.216)
see, I just looked it up and it said 42.

We Wine Whenever (05:06.763)
That's what Angie said on the after show. The other thing where they were saying to, where Lisa said to Brittany that you need something, that was a thermo-tique, she said. So I believe that is some kind of like treatment that's more like a carrot in treatment. Yeah, but the shampoo and conditioner per Angie were like $200 each. I don't know if there's like super mega salon size.

Kelli (05:24.371)
Like a keratin. Got it.

We Wine Whenever (05:34.237)
Well they were large sizes, they were big sizes.

We Wine Whenever (05:36.119)
So I don't know.

Kelli (05:37.767)
That $42 was for an eight ounce bottle. So that makes sense.

We Wine Whenever (05:40.615)
So that's not salon size. yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely does make sense. so the Karastasi is the brand of both the shampoo, the conditioner and the treatment.

We Wine Whenever (05:40.947)
Yeah, these were big. Those were so big.

Kelli (05:50.781)
Probably.

We Wine Whenever (05:51.157)
Yeah. Cause it, Karestasi Thermotique was the actual treatment. Yeah. That's the one that Lisa Barlow said first. So I think all the housewives are going to have something to do with this shampoo and conditioner because obviously everybody's talking about it. Meredith. Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (05:57.192)
Okay.

Kelli (06:05.971)
For sure, Meredith. It says it right there, sulfate free.

We Wine Whenever (06:06.056)
You know who's not? Meredith. Meredith is not. Meredith is not.

I'd be honest with you, I think every single high-end shampoo is sulfate free. Yes, absolutely. mean, maybe if you're going to a drug store, you're getting sulfates, but any hair salon shampoo is definitely sulfate free.

We Wine Whenever (06:13.485)
Such a jerk.

Kelli (06:19.539)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (06:19.679)
Any more? Yeah.

Kelli (06:28.423)
Yeah. But even I think like, I even think like Pantene has a sulfate free. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (06:33.183)
I'm sure they do. I don't even know what the sulfates do and I know that you're not supposed to have them.

Kelli (06:38.353)
You're not, especially if you have a keratin treatment.

We Wine Whenever (06:41.29)
Interesting, very interesting.

Kelli (06:44.239)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (06:49.141)
So then Angie, we see Angie talking to Shawn and she says she's Pish. She went there with good intentions and she went there with an open heart and an open mind and she's like crying in her confessional with her tears, Kelly.

Kelli (07:04.247)
Angie? I think there was a tear.

We Wine Whenever (07:05.032)
Yeah, and you're confessional.

Okay, because I don't pay attention to those things like you do. That's why I'm asking.

Kelli (07:11.411)
I think with Angie there actually was a tear.

We Wine Whenever (07:15.188)
I mean, to me, she seemed visibly upset. She really did. Because then she brought up, like, I can't believe, like, I was really embarrassed. Like, she threw me out with security in front of her mother, her children, Heather's daughter. Like, that's mortifying.

Kelli (07:18.087)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (07:31.975)
Somebody said it on one of our comments, like this seemed very staged and I said, you're right, it did. Like why would she have security at a bat mitzvah?

We Wine Whenever (07:39.159)
Well...

We Wine Whenever (07:43.563)
Yeah, who has like three burly guys with gold chains at your Bat Metsva in Salt Lake City? a- Yeah, come on. Stop it. Just stop it.

Kelli (07:49.029)
unless they're part of your family.

Right. That's what I mean. And once, when I read that, I'm like, I don't put it past Meredith.

We Wine Whenever (07:59.925)
Yeah. No. And I have written down WTF Angie's confessional outfit. I can't remember what it was now.

We Wine Whenever (08:02.002)
Right, no, I don't either.

We Wine Whenever (08:10.141)
The white one? Is it the white one? it's not the white one.

Kelli (08:11.025)
Her tits were out again.

We Wine Whenever (08:12.769)
Yeah, it was, I don't remember exactly what it was, but I know I wrote, what the fuck is that outfit? Did you get some, boobs out, yeah, that's what it was, boobs out.

Kelli (08:14.385)
Right?

Kelli (08:20.851)
Boobs out. Boobs out.

We Wine Whenever (08:23.658)
All right, so, if you could do a post about Angie's confessional outfits, like, pull them up and, like, put them up so we can see them.

We Wine Whenever (08:32.769)
Sure. Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (08:33.747)
for all the photos, least all the outfits with the bubs out.

We Wine Whenever (08:37.394)
Yeah, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (08:37.645)
Well, that's what the bugs are. And then she has the white one that looks like one of those. It looks like that cookie. looks like a cookie. I'm going to I'm going to get the picture of the cookie and I want to put it next to her white outfit. There's a certain cookie, like a pastry. that's what it like. Yes, you. Yes, that's what it looks like. Very odd. Something with a P.

We Wine Whenever (08:42.269)
That white one is very distracting to me.

Kelli (08:51.581)
That's a great idea.

We Wine Whenever (08:53.3)
Those cookies I get, the cookies I get, are mini elephant ears? Yes, yes, that I get at Costco. Yeah, I forget. What's the real name of them? called it, is it pea, like pest, whatever. You'll find it. You'll find it, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (09:05.517)
I'll find out. Yeah. She's got some doozies.

We Wine Whenever (09:09.789)
Yeah. So Sean says to her, listen, don't let these women put you in a position like this, like you were in last night. And I agree. I feel bad for her. Then we see Mary goes over to Angie's house. It's so funny. She's knocking on, I think it's funny that she has this glass door for her front door. I think that's like, that door is like a department store door. You know what I mean? Right?

Kelli (09:16.093)
Yeah.

Kelli (09:31.505)
Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (09:32.171)
Yes, it is like a department store door.

We Wine Whenever (09:36.731)
So she's knocking on the door and the door is open so she walks in, she's calling Angie, she sits down on the couch. Listen.

Kelli (09:42.277)
I know she just goes for it. I mean, if I knock at one of your homes and nobody comes right away, I'm walking in. I'm not sitting on your couch and put my feet up until I see you though. I know.

We Wine Whenever (09:46.76)
Well, that's us! Yeah. Okay, I guess they have that relationship too.

We Wine Whenever (09:48.311)
Yeah, come on in.

We Wine Whenever (09:53.736)
Well, you can.

We Wine Whenever (09:55.063)
Well, I'd sit down and put my feet up.

We Wine Whenever (09:57.289)
Yeah, yeah. I mean, I might be upstairs. You can sit on my couch. I wouldn't care. And when she starts going on her phone, I thought maybe she was going to text her. And then, because then Angie goes in and she's got the flowers and she sees her with the flowers. And instead of like, she's like, peekaboo. And she's like, I'm still, that is something you would do for sure. So,

Kelli (10:05.169)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (10:15.443)
some kooky I would do.

Kelli (10:17.297)
Yes it is. For sure. For sure.

We Wine Whenever (10:19.341)
So sorry.

We Wine Whenever (10:24.826)
Then Angie asks Mary to help her open the champagne. Mary's like, I don't know how to open champagne.

Kelli (10:30.129)
And she drinks champagne.

We Wine Whenever (10:31.844)
I know, but she probably doesn't open it just like Cathy Hilton doesn't open lobster. Right? I mean, they're trying to open it before even taking off the tin foil.

Kelli (10:35.719)
Lobster. Right. Right. You're right.

Kelli (10:43.411)
I can pop a bottle of champs.

We Wine Whenever (10:46.373)
I know you can. I know you can.

We Wine Whenever (10:49.537)
Not me, I would be like those two.

We Wine Whenever (10:52.903)
But would you do it on the couch or would you move to the kitchen and do it over the sink? To the kitchen and do it over the sink, right? So they get it open and then Angie's like, well, I can pour it. And Mary's like, actually, no, you can't. Let me have the other glass. And she couldn't! It was all bubbles. Right. Exactly. Okay. So what's next? Next. yes.

We Wine Whenever (10:55.735)
I would move to the kitchen. would not be doing that. Yeah. Most definitely.

Kelli (11:03.781)
No, she couldn't. It was all bubbles. All bubbles. You always tilt the glass. Come on.

We Wine Whenever (11:04.237)
No, she could not. She could not. Yeah, it was not good.

Kelli (11:18.311)
Well, they have a nice conversation and Mary, poor Mary blaming herself. mean, listen, as parents, that's what we do. But as an aunt who has lost two nephews and God forbid, I hope Robert Jr. and I do believe he's on a good path, but you know, I saw my sister and sister-in-law go through their son's drug addiction for years and you cannot blame yourself. There is nothing.

There's nothing you can do. You could do everything and nothing and it's gonna be the same result because it's gotta be them. It has to be them to decide.

We Wine Whenever (11:57.633)
Well, you know, but that's true with anything that your kid struggles with, whether it's addiction, whether it's mental health issues, it doesn't matter because, you know, this conversation was definitely very thought provoking and got us very strong reaction out of myself. you know, like you think it's a question of, you know, how did you not let them know?

how much they're loved and what they mean to you. But for a majority of parents whose kid suffers from insecurity or self-esteem issues, depression, anxiety, the child does know that the parent cares. It's just that those other feelings override the reality of the situation for them. And like Mary said, if it's not my fault, whose fault is it? Sometimes it's nobody's fault, but I could really get...

where she was coming from because as a parent, it's very difficult to move away from that and accept that sometimes it's not you.

Kelli (13:07.985)
No, you're absolutely right, Laura. You're absolutely right.

We Wine Whenever (13:11.303)
100 % right. And I do think that, you everyone and myself included has given Mary so much credit for being so vulnerable. Some of the things that she said that really resonated with me was like, what did I miss? Was I not paying attention that it went that far that he didn't want to live? Like where did I not make him feel secure? And you know, I just think like the difference with drugs is she knew that

We Wine Whenever (13:26.925)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (13:33.288)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (13:33.805)
All right.

We Wine Whenever (13:39.489)
he was under the influence of something. She just had no idea the depths of it and how, you know, she thought it was marijuana, she thought it was pot. You don't die from marijuana overdose, you know? It doesn't kill you. But the other things that he was taking and he was experimenting, she had no idea. And honestly, there's no way she could know.

We Wine Whenever (13:41.992)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (13:50.359)
Right, right.

Kelli (13:54.289)
No you don't.

We Wine Whenever (13:55.053)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (14:06.273)
No.

We Wine Whenever (14:06.513)
There's no way she could know. And what she said to Angie was, you notice something's up, your kids not looking you in the eye, they're not leaving their bedroom, they're not acting like themselves, you know something's wrong. But first of all, your kid's not a kid, they're an adult, right? They're 18 years old. And you think that you're doing everything you can and she's still...

Kelli (14:20.061)
Yeah.

Kelli (14:25.555)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (14:33.413)
you know, she still maintains and I'm sure she will. She will do everything she can to help him. But he has to want it. And I think obviously he does because he did confide in her and he did share everything with her. But, you know.

Kelli (14:48.007)
You know, kids pick up on a lot and I'm not saying this because I want Mary to take any blame. But her life has become stressful over the past few years with the whole church thing. She's basically had to step away from the church, I believe, right? Like I don't think they have their church anymore.

We Wine Whenever (15:09.407)
I'm not sure. Not sure what's going on there.

We Wine Whenever (15:09.53)
Yeah, I don't think they do. Right. Right.

Kelli (15:11.005)
plus they're in litigation with employees of the church, like that's stressful. So it's probably stressful on her marriage with Robert, senior. And, know, I'm not gonna comment on their marriage, but it's probably stressful on their marriage, which then trickles down to being stressful for Robert Jr. I don't know. I mean, it could affect their financial situation, obviously, which they're used to a certain kind of lifestyle and,

We Wine Whenever (15:40.577)
Right. Well, you know, even a very close friend of mine I was speaking to today and they were saying how one of their children is having a really hard time. really struggling. And I was talking to my husband about it he was like, you know, what's going on? it like, you know, his work? And I said, you know what? I really didn't get into it and I didn't ask her. I said, but it could be absolutely nothing at all.

Kelli (15:40.932)
I don't know.

We Wine Whenever (16:08.621)
And that makes it even worse to the person who's going through it. You know, sometimes there are underlying factors or stressors or things that you can blame it on. And sometimes there's not. And that makes it even harder for the person. And I felt I could really connect with Mary when she said, you know, how she felt alone. You know, she said, I don't have my, I don't have my mother. I don't have my grandmother. I don't have anyone to talk to.

Kelli (16:10.759)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (16:31.983)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (16:38.241)
to figure out how to navigate this. And I just want to say that I'm very fortunate because I have very good friends.

So I just really felt.

We Wine Whenever (16:52.982)
No, it's, yeah, no, it's hard because that is what she said that, you and she did confide in Angie and she made Angie pinky promise that.

Kelli (17:03.792)
And I really, when I saw that, I thought to myself, I really, really hope Angie keeps this. I really hope she keeps it between them.

We Wine Whenever (17:10.517)
Yeah, she keeps it together.

We Wine Whenever (17:12.261)
I think she will. I think she will. think that she gave her, know, I think, you know, Angie was there for her. You know, she said addiction is real. It's a disease. And it's, this is true. We say this all the time. It is real. It is a disease. Mental illness is real.

Kelli (17:27.847)
I mean, most people you know have been affected by it in some way or another.

We Wine Whenever (17:32.164)
I think everyone on this planet can relate to somebody or know somebody, you know, may not in their immediate family, know, like, you know, one degree over two degrees over, like it's that widespread, you know.

Kelli (17:36.659)
Has to.

Kelli (17:45.841)
for

Kelli (17:49.233)
Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (17:49.377)
Yeah. And I have seen some people say some things like, know, like Mary is using it for a storyline and blah, blah. But I really don't get that vibe from it at all. Not at all.

Kelli (17:57.843)
Mm-mm.

We Wine Whenever (17:57.973)
No way.

We Wine Whenever (18:03.588)
I've never seen that to be honest with you. And I'm surprised people are saying that. That just goes to show you how crappy some people are. Because there's no way in hell somebody would use this as a storyline. There's no way. There's no way. There's no way.

We Wine Whenever (18:09.815)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (18:13.265)
I totally agree. I totally agree. You could say a lot about Mary, but when she says like, he seems like her life, like she did pray for him. I believe that wholeheartedly. Yeah. And I don't know if we've talked about this yet. I think we did. So Robert Sr. was 20 years younger than her grandmother when they got married. So.

We Wine Whenever (18:13.655)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (18:26.691)
100 %! Four years, four years.

Kelli (18:41.531)
When I heard that or read that, I was like, okay, so there's no more than a 20 year age difference, I'm sure, between she and Robert Sr. And we know plenty of people who are in relationships with age differences that are at least close to that.

We Wine Whenever (18:52.597)
I don't think so. Yeah, I think there was a...

We Wine Whenever (19:00.973)
Well, look at Bronwyn, she's 26, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (19:02.339)
Brawn when it's hot.

Kelli (19:03.813)
Right, right, so I didn't, but I didn't know that like until recently that he was 20 years younger than her grandmother. But that like really put things in perspective for me. I'm like, okay, so it's not as, you know, outlandish. Yeah, exactly, exactly. I think I brought this up before though, so sorry people.

We Wine Whenever (19:11.627)
Yes, yes, he was much younger than the grandmother. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (19:17.705)
awful as sounded.

We Wine Whenever (19:24.963)
You know what is outlandish and I'm just gonna throw this out there. So Bronwyn is 39 and Brynn on New York is 38. Can you believe that they are only one year difference in them and the way that they act? I mean, Bronwyn is a mature woman and Brynn acts like a teenager. She acts like a lovesick teenager, a mean girl.

Kelli (19:36.583)
Wow.

No. Yeah, that's crazy. Yes.

Yes.

Kelli (19:52.933)
Yeah. Right.

We Wine Whenever (19:55.373)
So just to throw something else out there. Yeah. So Mary also does say to Angie that, you know, she wants to make sure that everything is right with Robert Jr. before she leaves and she's going to take care of things and she's going to be there, but she's, you know, going to be late on the trip, which is, you know, I'm glad that she's going to take care of Robert Jr. I'm glad she's going to go to, because I think she needs, she needs to, yes, she needs to get away a little bit because.

Kelli (19:57.287)
That's interesting.

Kelli (20:17.287)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (20:17.505)
Yes, for herself.

Kelli (20:21.235)
It's hard to walk away from that situation though.

We Wine Whenever (20:23.914)
Absolutely, absolutely. But she's going to get everything in place so that she can. And that may be that she's getting him in rehab. That may be what's happening, right? Right, she's going to make sure that he is in a safe place and that he's okay before she leaves. And then we see all the girls are packing up and getting ready to leave. They get to the airport. I thought it was funny that Angie... okay.

Kelli (20:32.379)
Yeah, yeah. Or Robert Senior's coming, like maybe he's not home and he's coming home, you know, whatever it is.

We Wine Whenever (20:51.666)
Wait, Sorry.

We Wine Whenever (20:53.624)
I missed something.

We Wine Whenever (20:57.429)
I wanted to actually gag Meredith's feather trimmed thong bikini. Did you guys miss that scene? Her assistant or house manager or something was helping her pack and she pulls out this and I was just like, no, no, it's, no, was her, it was horrible.

Kelli (21:05.459)
Kelli (21:12.893)
I saw it.

We Wine Whenever (21:17.133)
I missed it. It was a feather-trimmed thong bikini.

Kelli (21:18.603)
I'm sorry, that's not her fucking bathing suit. If it wasn't her daughters, then she just bought it for the scene. There's no way Meredith was wearing that.

We Wine Whenever (21:27.403)
was horrible. it was just like, yes, throw up in the mouth. I was just like, no, no, no.

Kelli (21:31.878)
Brutal.

We Wine Whenever (21:33.041)
I missed it.

Kelli (21:35.636)
Like and I'm not saying that because I don't think she's fit enough to fit like she could she could but she's not She's not wearing that and if she is Don't wear it because you're too fucking old for it

We Wine Whenever (21:40.897)
Definitely she could. She's conservative. She's very conservative.

We Wine Whenever (21:46.701)
Yeah, don't, because you're too old. That's it. That's exactly it. You could be hot as hell, but you're still too old.

Kelli (21:50.035)
Come on, a fur lined bikini.

We Wine Whenever (21:54.906)
wait, was it fur lined or feather?

Kelli (21:54.919)
Yeah. feather?

We Wine Whenever (21:57.653)
I think fur, feather or fur, something. No, maybe it was fur. I don't know. Either one is bad.

We Wine Whenever (22:00.256)
You said feathered. I don't know. All right.

Kelli (22:01.519)
Either one. Either one.

Either one shouldn't be worn by a 50-something year old woman. Whether you could fit into it or not.

We Wine Whenever (22:08.931)
No, it was bad.

We Wine Whenever (22:09.324)
I agree.

No, I agree. I totally agree. All right, can we get to the airport now? Okay. All right. Okay.

We Wine Whenever (22:14.625)
All right, I feel better now. Yes. Yes, you can.

Kelli (22:18.183)
Yes, and Angie, let me just say Angie was the only one appropriately dressed to be flying.

We Wine Whenever (22:23.102)
Okay, I knew you would point that out. And she does say to Brittany that her hair looks great today.

We Wine Whenever (22:23.179)
Yes.

Kelli (22:28.637)
She did tell Brittany her hair looked good.

We Wine Whenever (22:28.653)
Yeah

We Wine Whenever (22:31.85)
And then we see Heather and her confessional with her little monologue. You would never know that Angie and Brittany can't stand each other and Meredith and Angie can't stand each other and Whitney and Lisa basically hate each other. Okay, yeah, we already knew that. Then Braunwyn brought all the ladies these sparkle passport holders and she gives them to them in the airport and they're all excited except for Lisa.

who brings it up in her confessional about 45 other times that she told her not to bring a gift. And she's gonna do what she wants to do. Okay.

Kelli (23:05.999)
is a little messed up that Bronwyn, if she hadn't asked before and just gave them the gifts, okay. But she specifically asked Lisa, like can I? And Lisa was like, well, I'm doing it. So it's my trip if you don't mind not, and then she did it anyway. I thought that was a little messed up.

We Wine Whenever (23:26.227)
It was, but could, right, could you just let it go? It was a passport holder. I mean, it's not like it was a gift basket.

We Wine Whenever (23:26.839)
It's a gift for God's sake.

Kelli (23:30.044)
Yeah

We Wine Whenever (23:32.269)
Let me tell you something. And it's a Judith Lever. It's like $600 each. yes. yes. yes. yes. yes. Yes, yes, yes. Nice little gif. Very nice.

We Wine Whenever (23:39.501)
that's why it was sparkly. let's back this up. Wait, let's back this up.

Kelli (23:39.517)
Wow.

Kelli (23:47.644)
Okay.

We Wine Whenever (23:51.009)
I want a Judith Lieber passport holder. Bronwyn!

We Wine Whenever (23:55.789)
Yeah, yeah. And on the after show, Lisa Borrello, I'm sorry, I just can't take her. can't take her. So she says, on the after show, she says, well, know.

Kelli (23:56.403)
don't even have a passport.

We Wine Whenever (23:58.739)
do. Lori does. Kelly needs one too. We all need one.

Kelli (24:10.771)
I'm getting there with you girls. I'm not gonna lie. I'm getting there. I'm this close.

We Wine Whenever (24:12.31)
was gonna say, are you there yet, Kelly?

We Wine Whenever (24:17.895)
Hahaha

We Wine Whenever (24:23.731)
I already had one, I have my Louis Vuitton so I was fine. I was like, ew, just shut your pie hole.

Kelli (24:30.415)
It is things like that where it's like, shut up, Lisa. Just shut up. Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (24:33.463)
Just shut up. Shut the fuck up.

We Wine Whenever (24:38.625)
Listen, it'd be one thing if she brought it up once in the confessional, but like I said, she keeps bringing it up over and you just said she talked about it on the after show too. Enough already.

Kelli (24:46.897)
Yeah. Yes.

We Wine Whenever (24:47.382)
Ugh.

We Wine Whenever (24:48.991)
I will tell you though, when Bronwyn showed us what happened to her at the dog park, I was horrified. I was horrified. That's crazy. That's crazy.

Kelli (24:54.323)
We Wine Whenever (24:56.845)
37 bytes. 37 bytes.

Kelli (24:57.277)
She got effed up.

Kelli (25:02.909)
Do you know what I saw on Instagram today? She's taking the blame for it. I don't know if this is true, but this is what I saw on Instagram. She's taking the blame for it because that dog was a foster. The foster parent went to take a phone call and left the dog. She approached the dog and let the dog sniff her or whatever, like check her out.

We Wine Whenever (25:05.417)
No, I don't. What did you say?

We Wine Whenever (25:11.957)
believe it. I believe it. She's a dog owner.

Kelli (25:32.337)
the dog started freaking out and then she started freaking out and like her behavior provoked the dog to be more aggressive. She has since though found an owner for the dog. She's not pressing any charges, nothing like that. Again, I don't know if this is 100 % true but this is what I saw on Instagram.

We Wine Whenever (25:39.251)
escalated the situation. Right.

We Wine Whenever (25:48.192)
She got the dog adopted.

We Wine Whenever (25:52.649)
I believe that.

I totally believe it because she is a dog lover.

Kelli (26:00.005)
And the person who was reporting it was like, tell me any other housewife that would have done this. And he's right. I mean, aside from Lisa Vanderpump.

We Wine Whenever (26:05.389)
Yeah. And not only that, that dog actually fractured her bone in her arm. A hairline fracture. Yeah, she did. 37 puncture wounds. It was a lot. It was a lot.

We Wine Whenever (26:12.885)
Yes!

Kelli (26:13.021)
Yeah, she got effed up.

I mean, those bruises were unbelievable.

We Wine Whenever (26:20.586)
horrific

We Wine Whenever (26:25.194)
I know. Listen, I'm not a dog owner. Well, I would never be in a dog park since I'm not a dog owner. when I saw those, and I could definitely see her doing everything you said. She loves animals. She's a dog lover. She's a dog owner. We heard that, I think Lori told us, she's got a couple lawsuits from DoorDash drivers.

Kelli (26:29.715)
me neither.

Kelli (26:39.121)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (26:51.303)
yeah, delivery people, yes.

We Wine Whenever (26:51.649)
Yeah, they look like nothing compared to what she's got going on.

We Wine Whenever (26:56.244)
I know, I know, know, she's not doing that.

Kelli (26:58.535)
Well, clearly that's why she's not pressing charges because it's happening to her. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (27:02.752)
She's a dog lover. No, yeah, and she, like you just said, she found a home for the dog. I could definitely see that happening. I could definitely see that happening.

Kelli (27:09.928)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (27:09.985)
Yeah. Now I wanted to ask you guys, did you take notice when they were in, I believe it was in the airport, how Reduction did like when they were talking about all the current beefs of who's getting along with who and who's not getting along with who, how they did like the security thing, like a, you know, like how a security camera would like zoom in on a face and do the little thing that was like that, that was cool.

We Wine Whenever (27:30.311)
Yes.

Kelli (27:30.897)
Yes, yes, Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (27:34.205)
Yeah. So then they land in Puerto Vallarta and the person picking them up greets them with margaritas. Lisa gets on the bus and says, this trip is going to be amazing. I promise I made a PowerPoint. What? Then they show us like pictures of the PowerPoint. She really did make a freaking PowerPoint.

We Wine Whenever (27:59.287)
She's so annoying. No.

Kelli (28:00.691)
I'm going on a trip with a PowerPoint.

We Wine Whenever (28:02.596)
No, I don't either. Honestly, I don't even know that I want a freaking agenda. Yeah.

Kelli (28:06.801)
Yeah, that sounds like school.

We Wine Whenever (28:08.917)
Yeah. Now, did anybody catch about what Heather did with going to the bathroom on the plane?

We Wine Whenever (28:15.231)
Yeah, she peed all over the floor because she couldn't hover.

Kelli (28:20.337)
Lisa said it, right? And she's like, yeah, that was me.

We Wine Whenever (28:21.831)
Yes! Yes!

We Wine Whenever (28:23.731)
Woo, okay, so wait a second. So you leave it? You don't wipe it up? You don't ask the go ask a flight attendant, look like I'm gonna mess with the bathroom, I clean up. Give me some cleaner, that's a bit, who does, and then who fucking says it? Who says, yeah, that was me. I whizzed all on the floor and walked all around it.

Kelli (28:29.607)
Right, you don't wipe it up? It's your pee!

We Wine Whenever (28:29.736)
Right.

Kelli (28:39.975)
Bye. Bye.

We Wine Whenever (28:46.557)
I know, I didn't.

Kelli (28:47.131)
Yeah, I would've let that shit go.

If you're not gonna take the time to clean it up, let it go.

We Wine Whenever (28:54.867)
Listen, I'll be honest with you. I don't even think I would admit to passing gas, let alone peeing on the floor.

We Wine Whenever (29:00.95)
On the floor.

Kelli (29:01.233)
right

We Wine Whenever (29:03.263)
If nobody heard it, I didn't do it.

We Wine Whenever (29:05.619)
Right. No, it must have been somebody else.

Kelli (29:05.981)
That's right.

We Wine Whenever (29:10.895)
floor that nobody knew was you!

We Wine Whenever (29:14.613)
Yeah, like I was like, ew, what's wrong with you? Ugh.

Kelli (29:18.354)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (29:19.999)
don't know. I agree.

Kelli (29:21.703)
Yeah, that was wild. That was bad. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (29:22.059)
Yeah, that was bad.

We Wine Whenever (29:24.264)
totally agree. I totally agree. So they get to their villa. The place is called VID ANTA Vedanta. I don't know how to pronounce it. They're greeted. you did? I didn't bother. I'll see if I can find some. they're greeted by Lizzie and Rudy, their host and their butler. So there's four bedrooms in each villas. The villa is

We Wine Whenever (29:34.975)
tried to look it up. I couldn't figure it out. I wanted to find out how much it was, but it was difficult to find.

We Wine Whenever (29:54.248)
They're identical and they're right next to each other. Lisa announces Villa 1 is gonna be Meredith, Heather, Lisa and Brittany. Villa 2 is gonna be Bronwyn, Angie, Whitney and Mary when she arrives. Then they run to their rooms and you could see immediately Bronwyn's upset that she's in Villa 2 because Lisa's supposed to be her closest friend.

Kelli (30:18.995)
I kind of thought she was reading too much into it and overreacting. Did anybody else feel that way? Okay.

We Wine Whenever (30:24.269)
Absolutely.

We Wine Whenever (30:25.736)
I, I not, not when I saw what happened the two weeks prior with her sitting down with John and Lisa talking about the whole adoption thing and the Gwen thing and the birth parents. No, no, I don't think, I think that they are friends and they have been friends for 10 years. And Lisa did get involved in her daughter's grandparents situation. I think that, I think that, listen, at first I was like, maybe, but then when she went on to talk about that, no.

Kelli (30:36.935)
Right, right.

We Wine Whenever (30:47.639)
Yeah.

Kelli (30:49.415)
Yeah, she did. She did.

We Wine Whenever (30:55.805)
She is 100 % right. I mean, do

Kelli (30:57.967)
Okay. You're like, why was Brittany in the first villa? I'm sorry, Laura.

We Wine Whenever (30:59.277)
And I thought too, she was probably...

she's probably really it. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (31:03.601)
Because like Whitney said, Britney was in Villa One so that she could school Bronwyn. She's just a pawn. Britney's just a pawn in this whole thing.

We Wine Whenever (31:13.505)
She's just a pawn. Yeah, she's just a pawn. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely.

Kelli (31:14.589)
Well, yes, I agree with that.

We Wine Whenever (31:17.189)
And Whitney saw through that, but Braunwyn didn't get that yet. She'll get it. She'll get it.

Kelli (31:22.205)
She'll get it. Britney's not getting it. Britney don't know her place.

We Wine Whenever (31:24.557)
Brittany is, my God. Brittany, I mean, I swear to God, Brittany and Teresa, they go to the same school of dumb. I mean, right?

We Wine Whenever (31:27.725)
She had lead in her head.

Kelli (31:27.836)
I mean.

Kelli (31:33.843)
For sure, for sure. Yes.

We Wine Whenever (31:34.229)
Yeah, for sure. Like a brick in there. There's a brick in her head.

We Wine Whenever (31:39.261)
They go to the same school of dumb.

Kelli (31:41.585)
I could not agree with you more.

We Wine Whenever (31:45.495)
But I think Bronwyn, you know, on the heels of coming onto the show, her not being able to really define what her relationship with Lisa is, her whole thing with her daughter, and then getting the fucking attacked by a dog. I think she just, I think she probably went overboard on it a little bit, but I think that she was just in a vulnerable spot and she really wanted to have some kind of...

centering thing and she felt that Lisa trying to, she felt like Lisa was trying to show her a lesson.

We Wine Whenever (32:23.613)
Well, she was, that's what she was doing. And that's what she was doing. And listen, I applaud her for calling her out on it. Cause nobody else would, like nobody else would do that. Especially not Heather. I think Whitney might, to be honest with you. And listen, it's not that I'm a huge fan of Whitney either, but Whitney does see what's going on. She sees the chess pieces moving around the board.

Kelli (32:23.761)
Yes. Yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

We Wine Whenever (32:24.853)
Right. Right.

Kelli (32:31.633)
Yes, yes.

We Wine Whenever (32:39.21)
No, no.

Kelli (32:45.723)
Right, right.

Yes, yes.

Kelli (32:52.721)
Yes. Yes.

We Wine Whenever (32:53.51)
Unlike Brittany, who's just like, we're playing a game. shh. Right, right. wait, you want to swap rooms? No one said they want to swap rooms with you, Brittany.

Kelli (32:56.615)
Yeah, she's like, I'm in with the cool girls. I'm good. Yep.

We Wine Whenever (32:56.86)
huh.

I'm the cool girl now.

Kelli (33:05.021)
She was so hyper-focused on that. Like, you want me to give up my room? No.

We Wine Whenever (33:10.215)
stop it, stop

We Wine Whenever (33:10.327)
No, I just jumped because I just can't with this. I can't with Brittany. I can't. seriously can't.

We Wine Whenever (33:15.275)
No, but did you see that the room placement is the same as the seating on the reunion?

Kelli (33:23.719)
Really?

We Wine Whenever (33:23.862)
one side is one, it's Villa 1 and Villa 2.

We Wine Whenever (33:24.855)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (33:28.673)
Yeah, that's what I want to be able to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She was just trying way too hard, Brittany, with, you know, maybe she likes, maybe she just likes me more than you. stop it. But I saw, I saw on, yeah, I saw on a social media post, it was really cute. It's a quote. Now we're talking about Brittany. She's just jealous that Betty,

Kelli (33:29.551)
on different couches? that's interesting.

We Wine Whenever (33:31.932)
Yeah.

Kelli (33:45.86)
yeah, when she said that at the dinner?

We Wine Whenever (33:58.541)
Brittany Bateman got to hang with the Cool Girls while she, Bronwyn, was relegated to groveling for a hilling journey with Whitney Rose. This is funny. Talking about Bronwyn. I just thought it was funny. But that's exactly it. She was just thinking that she was all that and black chips because she got to like, not even seeing that. No one really gives a shit about you, Brittany. You're just a body. You're just a...

Kelli (34:11.187)
You

Kelli (34:27.596)
Exactly.

We Wine Whenever (34:27.674)
No, you're a pawn. She's a pawn.

We Wine Whenever (34:28.257)
You're just a clap. You're clapping. She's a clapping machine for Lisa, a clapping machine.

Kelli (34:32.955)
Right, right. And then she makes her huge announcement, another announcement, and they're all like, God, here we go again. But I mean, listen, her now talking to her daughters, I mean, that's, you know.

We Wine Whenever (34:34.396)
She's just a pawn. She's just a pawn.

We Wine Whenever (34:42.805)
yeah.

We Wine Whenever (34:48.272)
Okay, but is that the right time to make that announcement when they're about to cheers?

Kelli (34:50.447)
No! It's never the right time because honestly I don't think anybody gives a shit about Britney.

We Wine Whenever (34:58.204)
Listen, there could be a right time, but that's not it. There could be. There could be a right time.

Kelli (35:00.825)
No. No. No.

We Wine Whenever (35:03.789)
And on the after show, they were talking about the gifts and Bronwyn's passport holders that she brought and everything. And Brittany is kissing Lisa's ass so bad. She's telling Lisa when they're sitting next to each other, you can't be upstaged and like high-fiving. And I was just like, so throw up. It was horrible.

We Wine Whenever (35:25.18)
Okay, Brittany, you get... Brittany, Brittany. So did Brittany give back the passport holder? Did Judith Leiber have passport holder? No, no, she probably has it in a case.

Kelli (35:25.501)
Who did it, Heather? Brittany.

We Wine Whenever (35:28.289)
Britney.

I'm sure she did not. I'm sure she did not. No.

Kelli (35:34.984)
And what was Lisa's gift? Did we see Lisa's gift? Okay.

We Wine Whenever (35:38.222)
Not yet.

We Wine Whenever (35:38.633)
It was something from Louis Vuitton. I don't know what it was, but it was something from Louis Vuitton. No, but Lisa did say it on the after show. And Lisa said, I would never complain about a room on a trip I was invited to. yeah, but you had no problem complaining about the plane.

We Wine Whenever (35:44.675)
Well, we didn't see it yet.

We Wine Whenever (35:49.339)
Of course she did.

Kelli (36:00.123)
Yeah, yeah, come on.

We Wine Whenever (36:03.348)
Yes, just too much.

Kelli (36:08.211)
All right, so now we're at the dinner and Lisa and Bronwyn are.

We Wine Whenever (36:12.785)
but wait, wait, wait, before we get to the dinner. So Lisa is so excited to see her PowerPoint come to life. They're going to start with the poolside drinks. So they walk up to the bar and there's margaritas already made there. And of course they are made with what? Vita tequila. Tequila. That's when then Brittany, during the cheers, right? And then she starts talking about

We Wine Whenever (36:21.046)
We Wine Whenever (36:31.447)
Viva!

Kelli (36:31.557)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (36:41.903)
her daughters. And then hold on, this gets better because as they're walking over to the dinner, they're still arguing.

We Wine Whenever (36:53.532)
Okay, currently because things happen, her second marriage, so now we know that, because I was saying, I don't know how many times she's been married. her daughters from her first marriage are not speaking to her because of the things that happened to her, happened in her second marriage, which she's no longer in. her daughters did not appear to be, I mean, we only saw the one, because it was a picture of her and her friends, because it was only one daughter.

Kelli (37:01.489)
right.

We Wine Whenever (37:11.763)
Mm-hmm. Right.

Kelli (37:11.987)
that she's no longer in.

We Wine Whenever (37:22.725)
They're not that old. So, these girls have been through a lot.

Kelli (37:24.509)
No.

We Wine Whenever (37:25.111)
No.

We Wine Whenever (37:30.203)
So before they even get to dinner, the ladies sit down with their cocktail and Bronwyn says she's surprised about the way the room assignments landed. And Lisa said, well, what's wrong with it? And Bronwyn said, you put me in a villa with two people that I'm not speaking to. And Lisa's like, you guys aren't speaking? Like she had no idea. And Bronwyn was like, well, we're speaking now because you put us in a room together. And I was surprised, Brittany says, well, maybe she's like, likes me better now.

We Wine Whenever (37:59.981)
Yeah, she likes me more than you.

We Wine Whenever (38:00.203)
Right. And that's when we're like, no. Right. And that's when Whitney and her confessional says, right? Then Bronwyn says to Lisa, you're getting a little bass in your voice. I've never heard that before. Have you ever heard someone say that? I mean, I knew exactly what she meant.

We Wine Whenever (38:15.155)
No, I've never... Yeah, I've never heard that expression, I like it.

Kelli (38:18.289)
Me neither.

We Wine Whenever (38:19.14)
I thought, well, that's interesting. I know I like it too. I like it too. And Lisa's like, well, they're all beautiful rooms. She's like, I'm not complaining about the room. Like it wasn't about the room. It was about the villa. You put me in a villa with two people you know I'm not speaking to.

And then Lisa's like, it's very hard for someone to be grateful on any trip. And then Bronwyn brings up, like, you were the one who wasn't grateful when I hosted my trip. And Bronwyn says, you're missing the point. It's not that I wanted a different room. It's that I wanted to be with you. And Lisa's like, well, you're with me all the time, except for when I'm sleeping or shitting.

Like, come on. Like, she just doesn't get it. And-

We Wine Whenever (39:00.599)
She just doesn't get it. She just doesn't get it.

Kelli (39:01.267)
Yeah, she doesn't get it.

We Wine Whenever (39:05.239)
Because you know why? Because she's not capable. She's not capable of that type of relationship with anybody. With anybody.

We Wine Whenever (39:08.705)
No, she's absolutely not. Right. Right. Right. And then Bronwyn continues to say to her, listen, you're not hearing me out. Instead, you called me snobby and ungracious. It's not about the room. And Heather then jumps in and is like, what can we do to make this right? And Brittany says, I'm not trading. Okay, well, nobody asked you to trade. Right.

Kelli (39:08.839)
Right. Right.

Kelli (39:14.024)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (39:33.217)
Nastu, shut up.

We Wine Whenever (39:35.573)
Nobody asked you. And then all a sudden the bartender comes over and says, ladies, I'm sorry to interrupt, but your table's ready. So then we see Bronwyn and Lisa walking over to the hostess stand. They're continuing to argue. They arrive at the hostess stand and they're still arguing. they're like, and Lisa's like, table for Lisa Barlow. They're still, they're still arguing. They're walking to the host and then they sit down. They're still arguing. Then Angie gets to the table and she's like,

Kelli (39:53.555)
yeah, they're totally, totally fighting while they walk into the, yeah, to the restaurant, yes.

We Wine Whenever (40:03.235)
is this a gift? Why is there a bag on my chair that says Brooks Marks?

Kelli (40:08.317)
She had to put it in a Brooks Marks bag?

We Wine Whenever (40:10.744)
That's just another plug!

We Wine Whenever (40:10.794)
yeah.

Kelli (40:13.445)
Yep. They must be desperate for money. Sorry, Laura.

We Wine Whenever (40:14.453)
And you know what, it was interesting. Yeah. It was interesting because you could, I think that that was real because like you could see the look on Angie's face when she looked in that bag. And I don't think you can stage that.

Kelli (40:24.082)
Yeah.

Kelli (40:28.325)
No, I agree. And there was something else in there, a journal or something? Yeah, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (40:28.6)
No, no, you definitely, yeah, it's a journal. Yeah, yeah, because Angie says, are you giving me a gift? And she takes out the journal and the shampoo and Meredith says, I heard you wanted everything back that you brought me. Angie said, is that what I said? Meredith's like, well, did you say it or didn't you? And then Brittany jumps in again and says, I wouldn't have given it back. Okay, Brittany, nobody cares. Brittany's.

We Wine Whenever (40:32.621)
Yes, see you right there, Arnold.

Kelli (40:55.389)
but it was the same conversation as the lunch at Mary's. Like, did I say that? I didn't say that.

We Wine Whenever (40:58.356)
Right, right, exactly. Right, right. And then Heather's like, this is like deja vu.

We Wine Whenever (40:59.277)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (41:05.553)
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (41:07.99)
And then apparently she says, apparently you have a history of slut shaming, am I right? And then Angie tosses the bag over to Brittany. Well, it wasn't right. It wasn't right. But I do believe that she didn't realize that it was upside down. Like I think she was tossing it over there, but since it was upside down, the bottles came flying out of it.

Kelli (41:16.775)
That wasn't right.

We Wine Whenever (41:19.819)
No, wasn't right.

Kelli (41:32.327)
Yeah, but you knew that there were bottles, heavy, heavier bottles in there, like, come on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (41:32.653)
Big heavy palm.

We Wine Whenever (41:35.914)
No, no, she definitely did. It definitely wasn't right. I'm not saying it was right.

We Wine Whenever (41:40.497)
Hey, but listen, at least Heather really stood up and said, she wasn't slut shaming you. She was just calling you a hypocrite. I thought it was pretty good at least, know, Heather doesn't do much. That's cool. But that was like, I was like, okay, yeah, good, good job.

We Wine Whenever (41:49.172)
Right, exactly.

Kelli (41:49.777)
Right, exactly.

We Wine Whenever (41:52.458)
Exactly. Right. Right.

Kelli (41:57.393)
No, you're right. And finally, like they kind of determine that Brittany's the one who started the whole slut shaming thing.

We Wine Whenever (42:04.86)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (42:06.358)
because Braunwyn clarified it. Braunwyn is the one who clarified it.

Kelli (42:08.274)
Right.

Kelli (42:12.197)
And thank God, Meredith was like, okay, I'm sorry, I didn't know that. But meanwhile, you've humiliated this woman on camera by having your security escort her out of your bat mitzvah.

We Wine Whenever (42:15.67)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (42:16.876)
Now.

We Wine Whenever (42:24.31)
And Angie has to say to Brittany, listen, Brittany, I would like to finish my conversation with Meredith. Like, this has nothing to do with you.

Kelli (42:33.075)
She's ridiculous, Brittany. yeah. And I mean, especially at Mary's lunch where she was like, what about me? It was like, my God, like, did you just say that?

We Wine Whenever (42:33.399)
Yeah, just shut your trap.

We Wine Whenever (42:41.383)
my god. Did you just say that? Now on the after show, Meredith says, she goes, I have an extensive vocabulary and I don't need to throw things. Shut up. And that one scene with Meredith and Lisa together, I cannot do them together. Together, I just want to puke. I can't do those two together.

We Wine Whenever (42:43.626)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (42:55.997)
my gosh, really?

We Wine Whenever (43:07.127)
Because they're such mean girls. The two of them are mean girls.

Kelli (43:10.331)
Yeah, yeah. And when they're all yelling at each other and going off the rails, the waiter's like, hello. Trying to get their order. And you know me, I wanna eat and drink. I would be like, listen, shut the eff up. Give this guy two minutes. Let's get our orders in. I'm hungry.

We Wine Whenever (43:10.645)
I can't do them together.

We Wine Whenever (43:19.2)
I know.

We Wine Whenever (43:20.461)
Do you want to place a drink order?

We Wine Whenever (43:31.243)
Well, Meredith says it. Meredith says, like, can we just order our drinks and then we can finish this? And they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's get this done.

We Wine Whenever (43:31.689)
And then you can continue.

Kelli (43:35.952)
Yeah, like I'm hungry and I want a drink.

Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (43:42.871)
It's hard. She did apologize and honestly she should have because she didn't know the whole story.

Kelli (43:44.349)
Well, at least Meredith apologized to Angie, right?

Yeah. Right. And that's why Sean was saying you should listen to both sides.

We Wine Whenever (43:54.731)
You should hear both. So I learned some interesting things. Lisa has a salon in her house. A hair salon? okay. And Mary says the only person's house she's been to is Angie's.

We Wine Whenever (43:56.607)
Right, right.

We Wine Whenever (44:05.749)
That doesn't surprise me. Yeah, doesn't surprise me.

Kelli (44:14.749)
Really?

We Wine Whenever (44:15.533)
Yep, the only house she's been inside. And then on Up and Atom and some other things on social media, there's reality blurb and whatnot. There's rumors of Whitney and Justin heading for a divorce.

We Wine Whenever (44:18.379)
That doesn't surprise me either.

Kelli (44:35.419)
I could say it, she's annoying as fuck. I mean, I'm sure she was fun for the first go-around for him, leaving his wife, getting the younger chick, but she's annoying. She must annoy the hell out of him.

We Wine Whenever (44:36.129)
blah blah blah. Yeah, she is annoying.

We Wine Whenever (44:44.103)
Right, right, right. Right. Right. Yeah.

I would think so. And then there's people saying, you know, she's just doing it for a storyline and they're going to do it for the show and then get back together later on and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (45:00.094)
No.

Kelli (45:01.675)
no, I wouldn't put it past Whitney. If ever there was a housewife that would fake a divorce for a storyline, it is Whitney Rose. I am totally on board with that. And I know I said I thought that Kyle and Mo were doing it for a storyline. I obviously don't believe that anymore. I was clearly wrong. But Whitney and Justin, I would bet money. Absolutely. He already lost his job. What does he care?

We Wine Whenever (45:24.212)
You think Justin's gonna do that? No, I don't think so.

We Wine Whenever (45:28.941)
What is he doing? That's a bread and butter, yeah.

Kelli (45:29.831)
That's their bread and butter now. That's how they got that big house facing the temple. He doesn't have anything going on. He lost his job. You lose your job because you're rubbing paint all over your wife on reality TV. Employers aren't lining up for you. I'm sure he does have another job, but he might not be making what he was making. Like, I'm sure there's been, you know, adjustments.

We Wine Whenever (45:34.732)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (45:39.19)
He's got another job!

We Wine Whenever (45:47.936)
I think he's got another job, doesn't he?

We Wine Whenever (45:48.087)
Right. Thanks,

We Wine Whenever (45:56.863)
Yeah. And who knows with her whole thing with Alibaba and her jewelry and all their multi-level marketing companies.

We Wine Whenever (45:57.046)
Hmm.

Kelli (45:59.752)
Alibaba.

We Wine Whenever (46:04.288)
Her skin care. Yeah, they are MLM kings and queens in Salt Lake. What about when Bronwyn says to Angie that she went too far? She shouldn't have said you look like a porn star. Angie says, let's not insult porn stars right now.

Kelli (46:06.631)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (46:09.325)
Yes, they are.

We Wine Whenever (46:22.413)
I liked it. It was good. Ennardy is not fucking around. She's not fucking around.

Kelli (46:22.897)
Yeah, what was that? my gosh. She's like doubling down.

We Wine Whenever (46:29.429)
I was like, I love that. She might very well be. She might very well be. And then, and then, Roman says, you know, they're talking about.

Kelli (46:32.275)
She is not fucking around. Holy shit.

We Wine Whenever (46:34.291)
Is she really from Jersey?

Kelli (46:38.621)
We need to find out where Angie's from.

We Wine Whenever (46:40.713)
Is she secretly from NJ?

Kelli (46:43.387)
I think you might be from the the dirty jurors.

We Wine Whenever (46:46.327)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (46:52.305)
what she was wearing, what Brittany was wearing and about her being a slut and then the crotchless panties that she's showing everyone in the bathroom without the cameras and Bronwyn says no one's bought me crotchless panties who I wasn't fucking.

We Wine Whenever (47:06.541)
Thank

Kelli (47:06.781)
Well, that's the thing. Like you're claiming that you're not sleeping with this guy, but he's buying you crotch. Like come on.

We Wine Whenever (47:11.273)
Jared Osmond, right, right.

But then, then Brittany says, listen, this is a sex forward world. What? What does that even mean?

We Wine Whenever (47:23.149)
She's making shit up.

Kelli (47:23.347)
I think they clarified she meant sex positive.

We Wine Whenever (47:28.071)
anyone can do whatever they want

We Wine Whenever (47:29.037)
She don't know what she's talking about.

Kelli (47:30.127)
which is true, but you can't lie about it. Like you're saying that you're not sleeping with him, but you clearly are. So don't explain to us that it's a sex positive world, explain to your Mormon friends that it's a sex positive world, because those are the ones you're lying to. That you don't drink wine, that you're not screwing around, those are the people you're lying to. Well, I'm not gonna say.

We Wine Whenever (47:37.213)
Right. Right.

We Wine Whenever (47:48.949)
they'll surround you, right. Right.

We Wine Whenever (47:56.407)
But listen, the girl has a spreadsheet for dates.

Come on, come on. Don't act like you're holier than now. mean, you don't out there broadcasting, you got spreadsheets of dudes. And I really don't care if you're having sex with them or not. You're going on that many, what are you doing? What are you doing? Don't act like, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (48:06.792)
You're holier than now.

Kelli (48:16.499)
Right.

Kelli (48:21.211)
No, who cares?

Right. But just don't lie about it. You're on reality TV. We're supposed to see your real life, right? You don't want to be a friend of, you want to be a main cast member, then show up and do your job and be honest.

We Wine Whenever (48:25.246)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (48:37.938)
You know, she's a singer and an actress, Brittany. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (48:40.172)
Yes.

Kelli (48:40.211)
Well, Lori told us she sang the Ariel song. I can't believe that. So was she Ariel's voice in the movie?

We Wine Whenever (48:42.956)
Yes, it's there.

We Wine Whenever (48:45.821)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (48:49.429)
I don't know, I don't know. They had her listed with that song, but I don't know the validity of it. I never really looked into it.

We Wine Whenever (48:59.708)
Yeah.

Kelli (49:00.445)
So I was listening to Heather McDonald on Juicy Scoop and she had somebody on and they were talking about this. And I don't know who the girl was that she had on, but she was so funny. And she was like, listen, this girl was clearly lead in the high school play and she has been living off the fumes ever since. It was so funny how she said it. I'm like, she's right. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (49:19.828)
So true. It's so true. It's so true.

We Wine Whenever (49:20.071)
Ever since. Absolutely.

yeah, yeah. Because she's still acting like that girl from high school, that pick, that pick me girl from high school. Good God. Good God.

Kelli (49:29.564)
Yes!

Yes. What about me?

Good God is right. Good grief, Charlie Brown.

We Wine Whenever (49:39.085)
Mm.

We Wine Whenever (49:39.477)
So basically at the end of the dinner, or even before the dinner ends, Meredith and Angie make up. And they agree that they're gonna move forward and they're gonna stay in the moment for a minute. So we're gonna have to wait and see what happens, but I really hope that we can.

Kelli (49:45.447)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (49:58.93)
What side are they on? Let's see, Meredith. So they're in separate sides of the couch. Yeah. Well, I don't know. I guess we'll wait and see what happens.

Kelli (50:06.717)
Listen, even when you go into the reunion as friends, sometimes it doesn't wind up that way, right?

We Wine Whenever (50:09.532)
Yeah, you could start at one way.

We Wine Whenever (50:15.051)
Now I heard that a lot of the drama comes from some hidden microphone in Meredith's room on the trip.

Kelli (50:25.945)
Is this, yeah, because you see her yelling at somebody, did you hide a microphone in my room? That's a coming scene.

We Wine Whenever (50:34.603)
Yeah, that's a coming thing. Yeah, so I did hear that. So I don't know. It's been very interesting.

Kelli (50:39.357)
Who's hiding a microphone?

We Wine Whenever (50:42.42)
I certainly would hope it would only be a producer. I mean, who else is micing?

We Wine Whenever (50:45.869)
I don't It's new to me.

Kelli (50:48.434)
I don't know.

We'll see though.

We Wine Whenever (50:52.894)
Well, would, this is going to be interesting.

Kelli (50:55.347)
It's gonna be real interesting.

We Wine Whenever (50:55.469)
Yes. So I have, let's see, three quotes for you two. So yeah, I'm going to give you the quote and I'm going to tell you which housewives, and you tell me which housewives said it. See if you know which housewives said it. Okay. All right. Your blood type is Pinot Grigio.

We Wine Whenever (51:05.492)
three.

Kelli (51:11.763)
Okay. Okay.

We Wine Whenever (51:17.04)
Somebody said that to Sonya. Ramona, that's what I meant.

Kelli (51:17.373)
Bethany Ramona Bethany

We Wine Whenever (51:20.363)
No. Yep. Kelly to Ramona Singer. Yeah. Okay. Close your legs to married men trash box.

We Wine Whenever (51:23.986)
Kelly, Kelly Ben-Symon to Ramona. Yeah, it definitely went to Ramona.

Kelli (51:24.924)
Kelly!

We Wine Whenever (51:33.936)
Nini leaks to Kim. Nini leaks to Kim. Yep.

Kelli (51:34.348)
NeNe. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (51:34.936)
Me neither. I knew you girl. I you girl, get it. Eat a piece of bread and calm down.

Kelli (51:45.757)
So that was to Lisa Rinna.

We Wine Whenever (51:48.465)
huh.

We Wine Whenever (51:52.087)
But hey, you got the show. So yeah, so I'm very impressed, girls. I'm very impressed. Yep. Good job. Good job.

Kelli (51:52.595)
Was it Kim Richards?

Kelli (51:57.181)
Kim Richards. That's when she said, let's not talk about the husband.

We Wine Whenever (52:00.421)
Yes. Yep. Yep.

We Wine Whenever (52:03.917)
Good job.

We Wine Whenever (52:05.169)
Yeah. Listen, I heard, I don't know if it's true, I heard it's possible that NeNeLeaks may be back. I would love to see that.

Kelli (52:11.965)
I heard that too. That will get me to watch Atlanta again. Bring Nini back, I'm on board.

We Wine Whenever (52:19.077)
I would like to see that.

Kelli (52:20.595)
I'll watch. Yep. Hell yeah. Bring NeNe back.

We Wine Whenever (52:21.549)
I think I would even watch that.

Imagine.

We Wine Whenever (52:29.341)
You know, I don't watch Married to Medicine. I tried to watch it. I tried to watch it for a little bit, but a couple of weeks ago, there was like a marathon on of Married to Medicine. And I wound up watching one, like two or three episodes. And it was the reunion with Phaedra and Apollo was actually on it too.

Kelli (52:33.309)
Cousin Gina loves it.

Kelli (52:51.539)
Why was he on it?

We Wine Whenever (52:55.569)
Because I don't remember exactly why he was on it, but he was on it. And they asked Phaedra if she wasn't on Housewives, if her and Apollo would have still been together. And no, she said yes. Yeah, I was surprised to see that. Apollo was surprised to hear that too. Apollo was surprised to hear that.

Kelli (53:15.271)
Really?

Kelli (53:24.423)
What was her reasoning?

We Wine Whenever (53:25.766)
I don't remember. Listen, I'm giving you a lot of bad information here. Well, listen. Listen.

Kelli (53:28.019)
I mean, he's a crook and she's a lawyer. Either way, camera in your face or not, he's a crook and you're a lawyer.

We Wine Whenever (53:38.322)
Yeah, but she, I mean, they both cheated on each other. I think there was a lot of chemistry there. There's a lot of chemistry there. He's the father of her two children.

Kelli (53:42.159)
breaking the law

there's a lot of chemistry there. Listen, Apollo is hot. Like, Apollo is fine. Yes, yes. There's definitely a lot of chemistry there. But he's a criminal, and you're a lawyer.

We Wine Whenever (53:49.786)
He is hot. He's hot. He's hot. He's hot.

We Wine Whenever (53:58.074)
He's still the father of her two children. could see them. I could listen if you don't have cameras in your face. If you're not on a show. Right?

Kelli (54:00.103)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (54:05.421)
This is true. Yeah, I think that's the factor. If you're not on a show, you can, has to know. Yeah, you kind of let things slide and move past them, but when everybody knows your business, that makes it much more difficult.

Kelli (54:06.653)
That's true. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (54:10.098)
Right!

Kelli (54:11.621)
Right, and nobody knows, nobody has to know what's going on. Got it.

We Wine Whenever (54:13.355)
Right. Right.

Kelli (54:19.378)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (54:19.507)
Yeah.

Kelli (54:21.778)
Right.

Kelli (54:26.471)
Interesting.

We Wine Whenever (54:28.69)
I don't have anything else. Do you guys have anything else?

We Wine Whenever (54:31.207)
Nothing. Big fat nothing.

We Wine Whenever (54:32.538)
Okay, so I'm gonna make an announcement in Britney style.

We Wine Whenever (54:38.173)
let me get the glass and ting ting it.

Kelli (54:39.175)
You're for it.

Yeah, what is it?

We Wine Whenever (54:42.342)
Okay, okay. So to all of our listeners take a look at Kelly's hoodie Kelly if you can hold up your hoodie a little bit We're gonna be selling merch shortly that says we wine whenever so check out our socials Look at our website and you're be able to buy your own we wine whenever hoodie shortly That's my special announcement Okay, okay It was better than a Brittany announcement, right? Okay

Kelli (54:48.945)
yeah.

Kelli (55:02.685)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (55:03.617)
Yep, I'm working on it.

Kelli (55:05.789)
That was a good announcement.

For sure.

We Wine Whenever (55:11.465)
Anything is better than burning.

We Wine Whenever (55:12.177)
All right, until next time, bye.

Kelli (55:13.427)
Exactly.

We Wine Whenever (55:14.945)
anything.

Kelli (55:17.117)
Bye.

We Wine Whenever (55:18.263)
Bye.