Pregnancy Rumors and Basic Bitch Energy

Pregnancy Rumors and Basic Bitch Energy

RHONY Season 15, Episode 7: "Dodging Rumors" centers around gossip, misunderstandings, and a game of dodgeball that becomes a metaphor for the cast’s dynamics.

The episode unfolds with:

• Gossip Galore: Brynn spreads a rumor about Rebecca being pregnant and speculates about the baby's father, sparking tension and speculation.
• Brynn's Stirring: She admits she loves stirring the pot, leading to heated exchanges, including a joke about Jessel being a "basic bitch."
• Personal Revelations: Abe shares his past musings about his sexuality during a fun night out, and Racquel opens up about her journey to self-acceptance.
• Shopping and Spills: Jessel takes her mom jewelry shopping while navigating conversations about another baby. She also casually spreads the Rebecca rumor, earning a warning from her mother.
• Dodgeball Drama: A playful game becomes a forum for more gossip, leading Jenna to warn Rebecca about rumors circulating among the group.
• Showdowns and Storm-offs: When Rebecca confronts Erin about the gossip, the situation escalates, and tensions reach a boiling point.

Takeaways

• The episode revolves around rumors and their impact on relationships.
• Cultural and religious discussions provide depth to character backgrounds.
• Marketing strategies for movies can overshadow the content itself.
• Friendship dynamics are complicated by misunderstandings and gossip.
• Pranks can lead to unintended consequences in social settings.
• Sexuality and personal identity are recurring themes in the current season.
• The hosts critique the show's focus on serious issues over entertainment.
• The portrayal of characters can influence audience perception.
• The balance between humor and seriousness is crucial for viewer engagement.
• The hosts express a desire for a return to more lighthearted content. The term 'lesbian sensibilities' can be puzzling and subjective.
• Financial dynamics in relationships can lead to questions about independence.
• Push gifts are a cultural phenomenon often discussed in reality TV.
• Dodgeball serves as a metaphor for social dynamics and competition.
• Fashion choices can reflect deeper social perceptions and judgments.
• Reality TV often blurs the lines between genuine interactions and production influence.
• Celebrity gossip can fuel speculation and intrigue among fans.
• Controversies in the Bravo world often involve complex personal relationships.
• Understanding the reality behind reality TV can be challenging for viewers.
• The personal lives of reality stars can intersect with their on-screen personas.

Transcript

We Wine Whenever (00:00.94)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:03.71)
I'm Kelly.

We Wine Whenever (00:04.553)
And I'm Laurie.

We Wine Whenever (00:06.2)
Tonight we're talking about Real Housewives of New York, season 15, episode number seven. This one is called Dodging Rumors. Dodgeball rumors, eh, kind of lame. So it was. So we start out with Brynn, and she's talking about this crazy rumor about freaking the sheets and pregnant by someone else, and she's talking to Jessel and Cy and Raquel are there.

We Wine Whenever (00:17.6)
Blah blah blah.

Kelli (00:20.84)
show was lame.

We Wine Whenever (00:21.728)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (00:34.508)
and they're playing dodgeball, and then we cut to four days earlier. I love when they do that. Not. No. No.

We Wine Whenever (00:41.831)
now.

Kelli (00:42.077)
No, I don't like when they do it either. It's like, cause it's, it just shows how produced it is.

We Wine Whenever (00:48.14)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (00:48.554)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (00:51.127)
So four days earlier, was Jessel, Jenna and Popeye were just kind of walking around doing their thing. And then we see Erin having lunch with Rebecca. It was the day after the Cinco de Mayo party. I'm glad they gave us that reference. Cause you never really know like when these things are happening, you know? Then Erin tells Rebecca what Brynn said about the award from Nordstrom's Rack, which we agree Nordstrom's Rack is fabulous and right.

We Wine Whenever (01:08.811)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (01:16.822)
Of course.

Kelli (01:19.595)
And I thought Rebecca handled that beautifully. Like, well, what has she designed and what store are her products in?

We Wine Whenever (01:24.075)
Exactly. Yep. What did she say? She's got a hundred million dollar company. So good for her.

We Wine Whenever (01:31.082)
Yeah, yeah. She said she's, you know, been in the water with real sharks, so Brynn's little comment is nothing.

We Wine Whenever (01:38.155)
Exactly.

Exactly. So then Erin asks her how it works with being Jewish and a Scientologist. And Rebecca explains that Jewish is her religion and Scientology is more of a spirit spirituality, like a way to live your life. It's not a religion.

We Wine Whenever (02:01.344)
to her.

Kelli (02:01.483)
actually liked her explanation of that. I know that there are crazy stories about this belief system, but I liked her explanation of it, at least as to how it applies to her life, how she applies it to her own life.

We Wine Whenever (02:15.946)
Yeah, to her life, yes. So it's to her, it's more of like a philosophy.

We Wine Whenever (02:18.517)
Right.

Kelli (02:22.847)
Yeah, exactly, and helps her deal with things that come her way in her life, like good and bad.

We Wine Whenever (02:22.868)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (02:30.389)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (02:30.486)
Because that's what a lot of the Scientology is. It's a lot of like psychology and it's a lot of self-exploration and just how you deal with things and, you know, it really is working on the inner you. But she was trying to kind of brush it off a little bit that it's not a religion, but to a lot of people it is. I mean, it is the church of

Kelli (02:50.345)
Right.

Kelli (02:58.141)
for sure.

We Wine Whenever (02:59.998)
So yeah, but I'm with you, Kelly. did like, I like, yeah, I like how she handled it. Absolutely.

Kelli (03:02.035)
Yeah, yeah, no, I like the way she applied it to herself.

We Wine Whenever (03:09.919)
It's funny because I kind of thought that she was dodgy about it. Even in her confessional when she says there's a lot of misinformation and you know, maybe you should check it out and read a book or go online. And then the producers, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (03:22.932)
Now wasn't that a chain? Yeah.

Kelli (03:23.209)
And then they mentioned that book.

We Wine Whenever (03:27.296)
The producer says, you mean a book like Going Clear? And she's like, no.

Kelli (03:31.849)
I just, yeah, I'm going to look that book up.

We Wine Whenever (03:33.222)
Mm-hmm. That's that Lisa. Isn't that Lisa Remy?

We Wine Whenever (03:35.915)
Well, I heard.

Leah Remini, I don't think so. I mean, is she the one who wrote it? Maybe. Google it. Google it, yeah. She said, don't read that book. And she also tells us that when she was born, her parents were just learning about Scientology. And that being said, that when she turned 18, it was her choice to join.

We Wine Whenever (03:40.296)
Isn't that, you don't think so? I thought so. I thought so. We'll have to look it up.

Kelli (03:47.913)
I am, Googling it right now.

We Wine Whenever (04:07.638)
the whatever, because she's saying it's not a religion, the Scientologists. So she made that decision herself. someone was saying that she's second generation, which I guess she is second generation if her parents were, but she made the decision to do it.

We Wine Whenever (04:10.559)
Right.

Kelli (04:25.995)
Okay, so this says Going Clear is a book by Lawrence Wright. It says Going Clear, Scientology, Hollywood, and the Prison of Belief.

We Wine Whenever (04:30.974)
okay.

We Wine Whenever (04:37.514)
Nuh-huh.

We Wine Whenever (04:38.964)
Yeah, it's, I guess what she's calling.

Kelli (04:40.085)
So it's not Leah Remini, but Leah Remini had like a six part series or something on a network about it. And she exposed a lot.

We Wine Whenever (04:47.421)
Yes, she did.

We Wine Whenever (04:47.464)
Yes. When, yeah, when, when, when they said it, that's just automatically who I thought they were, you know, talking about because she's such a big

Kelli (04:55.552)
Sure.

We Wine Whenever (05:00.564)
You know, a big non-fan of that. Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (05:01.195)
Well, she was part of it and then left. Right.

We Wine Whenever (05:06.281)
Yeah, but what I thought was dodgy about it is if you're telling us there's all this misinformation about it, well then why don't you tell us more about it? Don't tell us to go read a book and look it up online. Like if this is what you're practicing, give us, you know, the Cliff Note version. You know, that's what I thought was dodgy. And because then when the producer said, well, what book?

Kelli (05:29.483)
I don't think she wants to make her storyline about that. And I think that's why she's, I think she's being reserved because, especially because we know that in the middle of the season, because we saw her talk about it, somebody called her and said they're dropping an article about you being a Scientologist. So now, even if she wasn't being guarded about it before, she's definitely gonna be guarded about it now because now they're dropping articles about it.

We Wine Whenever (05:33.939)
About that. Yeah.

Kelli (05:59.733)
So she probably doesn't want the hot, listen, she's Rebecca Minkoff. Like she's got a hundred million dollar company. She's an accomplished woman. And she probably doesn't want the focus to be on that. You know, I'm sure she wants it to be on her business and her family life. So maybe that's why she was just like, you know, if you want to learn more, go ahead.

We Wine Whenever (06:07.806)
Right, right.

We Wine Whenever (06:14.215)
Okay, I can understand that. Yeah.

I can understand that.

We Wine Whenever (06:24.828)
Right. All right, I get that. Then we see Uba, she goes shopping for some decor for Oliver's house. She still wants to keep her apartment in New York City, but yeah, absolutely she should. Don't give up your apartment. Yeah. I did think it was a little odd that she's sitting down talking to the sales lady about her painful periods. Was I the only one that thought that was weird?

Kelli (06:36.915)
as she should.

She's like Carrie Brodsha. Don't give up that apartment.

We Wine Whenever (06:53.042)
It's not like it was her friend, it was the sales lady.

We Wine Whenever (06:53.482)
Yeah.

Kelli (06:54.859)
I was gonna say, I'm hoping that it was a friend. Like, then yes, that was very odd.

We Wine Whenever (06:57.866)
I don't think so. I mean, I don't think it was.

We Wine Whenever (07:01.652)
Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's not like. Yeah, it's at a store at a store is not the place.

Kelli (07:03.691)
Cause I don't even tell you guys about my menstrual cycles. I just don't. And they're not great, just for the record. They're not great.

We Wine Whenever (07:05.511)
No, but great. I thought that was strange. Okay, thank you for sharing.

was like, this is a little odd that she's sitting down talking to this sales lady. Like, she couldn't find someone to film this scene with her? I just thought that was a little odd.

Kelli (07:22.005)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (07:26.154)
Right. Yeah, in public in a furniture store was not the way to go.

We Wine Whenever (07:33.074)
Yeah, yeah. And then we see size, she's in the car, she's talking to her daughter, London, and Rebecca has invited her to go see her new collection, like a sneak peek of her Wicked collection, how appropriate that they timed it for the movie, which is all over everything, this Wicked. Talk about cross, yep, yep, yes.

We Wine Whenever (07:53.61)
Yeah.

Kelli (07:54.271)
Yep. So I thought the same thing, the timing, very coincidental, very convenient. By the way, Wicked is one of my favorite Broadway plays. And Tess and I were very excited when we saw the coming attractions. I love Ariana Grande, the other woman looks like she's amazing. But I have to be honest with you, the amount of commercials are turning me off to wanting to see the movie. And then Tess talked to my nephew, Anthony, who's out in

We Wine Whenever (08:05.342)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (08:20.256)
too much.

Kelli (08:23.864)
LA and he told her that the movie's like almost three hours long and it's only a part one.

We Wine Whenever (08:24.617)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (08:31.293)
Yeah, that's what Matt said. Matt said it's only part one. Yes.

We Wine Whenever (08:32.388)
Kelli (08:34.421)
Did you ever see the size of the book, Wicked? saw it at, I feel like I bought it at Wimmer Beach. They must've been having like a big garage yard sale thing or something. Anyway, I got the book for Anthony though. I mean, it's like that thick. It's so big. So it makes sense that this is only part one, but almost three hours, come on.

We Wine Whenever (08:50.462)
Wow.

We Wine Whenever (08:51.062)
We Wine Whenever (08:56.758)
That's a lot.

We Wine Whenever (08:58.309)
interesting.

Kelli (08:59.145)
Yeah, who the hell wants to sit there that long?

We Wine Whenever (09:02.196)
I will be honest with you, I don't know the last time I saw so many products for one movie. mean, Target has a whole collection. It's more stuff than I've ever seen before. It's hats, it's bags, it's shirts, it's cosmetics. It's everything is wicked. Nail polish, OPI has a wicked, like every facet of life right now, there is some product that wicked is involved with.

Kelli (09:12.165)
It's overwhelming.

Kelli (09:30.249)
That's what Anthony told Tess. said the marketing budget on this film must have been astronomical.

We Wine Whenever (09:38.065)
Yeah, I sure hope Cynthia Erivo.

We Wine Whenever (09:38.344)
it's almost like gluttony though

Kelli (09:42.303)
It was.

We Wine Whenever (09:42.996)
It's almost like gluttony though. It's like, just stop. Like you don't need your paws in every single aspect of everything to try and make money off of it. Just, you know, it just becomes, it becomes too much after a while.

Kelli (09:47.987)
Exactly.

Kelli (09:54.527)
It's just a movie. It's just a movie.

I could not agree with you more.

We Wine Whenever (10:01.937)
Yeah. And Matt said the bags were ugly. I was like, okay.

Kelli (10:08.275)
I didn't love them either. But I thought it was very sweet of her to give Sy's daughter one. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (10:12.52)
100%. I did too. I did too. I did also think it was a little odd that London's like, okay, I'm going to go to the bathroom.

Kelli (10:20.339)
Yeah, I mean, obviously that was such a setup for them to talk.

We Wine Whenever (10:22.822)
I mean, seriously? I just... So then, Sai invites all the ladies to go play dodgeball. Go ahead.

Kelli (10:26.547)
It's ridiculous. It's really ridiculous.

We Wine Whenever (10:30.869)
and I

We Wine Whenever (10:34.698)
I thought it was interesting how Rebecca offered Psy's daughter that bag after Psy called her boring.

Kelli (10:46.707)
Yeah. She got over that quick. I mean-

We Wine Whenever (10:47.602)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (10:47.734)
Right. It was awfully nice to work. Yeah.

Kelli (10:51.997)
Yeah, well, I don't think we're getting to see anything about Rebecca. I think that production is focusing on this fucking Scientology thing and that's what they're gonna focus on. And we're not getting to see like anything else about her because production decided that this was gonna be her story.

We Wine Whenever (10:53.906)
Well...

Kelli (11:12.788)
Right?

We Wine Whenever (11:13.61)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (11:13.927)
Yeah, mean, that's what it seems like and you know, it's not good. It's not good. So then after that, see Brynn, Erin and Jess are at lunch together and Brynn said she just got out of work and she's got a team in New York and she's got a team in London. you know, she's really working. Yeah. So she's she's working on that app of hers and she's going to London in two weeks.

Kelli (11:33.205)
Brynn said that, Brynn said that,

We Wine Whenever (11:40.454)
And her and Jessel kind of talk about that. Like she goes to London more than Jessel and Jessel is like from London and, and she has it on her like bio and it's like, I don't even have it on my bio. that Bryn said she called Ray. Well, there you go. Then Bryn said she called Jenna the day after Aaron's party and asked if she thought Jessel was a basic bitch. And Jessel said, well, what did she say? And.

Kelli (11:46.155)
British.

We Wine Whenever (11:53.686)
Because she's not basic bitch.

Kelli (11:56.971)
That's right.

We Wine Whenever (12:09.852)
Brynn was being Brynn and being dodgy. Well, she said, Jessel's cute. Brynn said, no, I need an answer. Yes or no. And she said, Jenna said, I don't know. I'm gonna have to think about it. But then they show the footage and really what happened was Jenna actually said the joke about, it's a joke about Jessel being basic because she's nothing but she's not basic. She's not basic at all. And then Brynn said,

Hold on a minute, Basic Bitch is someone who tries too hard. So she was pushing that on Jenna and Jenna said, I'll have to table that one. I'm not gonna give you the Basic Bitch for Jessel.

Kelli (12:52.555)
And what's interesting is that Brynn's the one who's pushing too hard. She's the one who's over-sexualizing herself. She's the one that's running around town telling everybody what everybody else said about them. You're the one who's trying too hard. It's not cute. You're a little car, I'm getting carpal tunnel. It's not cute. You look like an asshole. She's an asshole.

We Wine Whenever (12:58.343)
100%.

We Wine Whenever (13:14.279)
She really does look bad this season. She really does. And it's happening every single episode. She's lying and stirring the pot. And it's always with Jenna. First it was Erin with Jenna, then it was Saat. Yes, yes. It's...

We Wine Whenever (13:14.42)
I'm waiting on that one. Yeah.

Kelli (13:26.879)
Yeah. But then she flirts with her and you it's kind of really weird. Like she really does need some therapy.

We Wine Whenever (13:32.49)
Yeah, super thirsty.

We Wine Whenever (13:38.311)
She really does. Yeah, no, it's just not good. It's not good. And then Jessel's like, well, listen, she always comments like how I look at my style. Like, is she lying to me? Now poor Jessel's like questioning her friendship, which is exactly what Brynn wanted. It's exactly what she wanted. And that's when Brynn and her confessional says getting a rise at a Jessel is kind of funny. I'm also...

We Wine Whenever (13:53.862)
Mm-hmm. Messy, messy, messy.

We Wine Whenever (14:06.299)
leaving out the part that I called her basic. She said it right in her confessional.

Kelli (14:10.089)
Right. She did.

We Wine Whenever (14:14.299)
She loves stirring the pot so much, she gave herself carpal tunnel, which is like, come on Brynn.

Kelli (14:19.177)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (14:21.863)
It's just, it's really sad to me because I feel like she could have something like, you know, was it Psy? Psy said on Watch What Happens Live, like she is a very bright girl. You know, she's not stupid. You know, she could be, she could be like a breakout star of this show. You know, we could really find out about her. We could really help, like the audience could really help her business, like skyrocket. If she wasn't being such

We Wine Whenever (14:33.366)
Mm-hmm. No.

We Wine Whenever (14:51.311)
A pot stirrer for no reason. You know?

Kelli (14:53.321)
Yeah, did anybody ever check to see if her app was up and running?

We Wine Whenever (14:53.696)
Right, just a mask.

We Wine Whenever (14:58.114)
I did not. I did not.

We Wine Whenever (15:05.08)
Okay, then Brynn talks about the joke about Rebecca at Nordstrom's rack. So now how many times have we heard that? She keeps saying it over and over again. Erin said, she's, it is.

We Wine Whenever (15:13.75)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (15:16.637)
I'm there. Riz, R-I-Z-Z, number one AI dating assistant.

We Wine Whenever (15:20.453)
Mm-hmm.

it's number one.

Kelli (15:24.735)
Well, that's its own explanation on the App Store. It calls itself number one.

We Wine Whenever (15:27.167)
Okay, there you go. Okay. Number one. Okay. Well, we're number one too.

We Wine Whenever (15:29.962)
Mm-hmm.

There you go. Yeah. Just in case you didn't know.

Kelli (15:35.167)
That's right. That's right.

We Wine Whenever (15:40.708)
Yeah. So then Erin says, know, she's, Rebecca's kind of sensitive right now. And then that's when she's telling the story. I'll be honest with you. I knew that it wasn't real the whole time. Did you know, Kel?

Kelli (15:41.009)
you

Kelli (16:01.053)
No, but once I figured, well, only because I saw things online before I watched the episode where it kept referring to a prank. So I'm gonna be honest with you though, at first I didn't and then it clicked. I'm like, this is the prank. then I realized, Bryn knew the whole time. Bryn definitely knew the whole time.

We Wine Whenever (16:26.304)
no, Bryn did not know.

Kelli (16:27.711)
No, I'm telling you, Brynn knew. She whipped that ball right at her stomach. And they were like, what are you doing? She knew, for sure. I think it'll come out.

We Wine Whenever (16:30.262)
Kelly's telling you.

We Wine Whenever (16:30.297)
That it was a prank? Okay.

We Wine Whenever (16:37.526)
she knew.

We Wine Whenever (16:43.469)
Maybe it will be, but she did say, I, when they were playing dodgeball, she's like, yeah, I checked around and it's true.

Kelli (16:51.743)
That's why I think she's lying. don't think she... No, I know. I'm just saying, don't think she knew it was a prank when Erin told her. think between Erin telling her and them showing up for dodge ball, she figured it out that it wasn't true. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (16:53.562)
Well, she is lying. All she does is lie.

We Wine Whenever (16:55.542)
Well, if she does, then why?

We Wine Whenever (17:01.646)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (17:06.208)
She figured it out. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (17:09.089)
Yeah, that could be. That could definitely be. But this brings back to something that Kelly and I had talked about, I think on our last episode, we just, different seasons are different things. And New York is the funny season. So this is the second prank. Erin did the prank with the cockroaches at her house when she put the cockroaches, that prank. Now she did this prank and

Kelli (17:11.883)
Yeah.

Kelli (17:25.135)
yeah.

Right.

We Wine Whenever (17:31.702)
Okay.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (17:38.732)
I guess this is what they want New York to be. I'm not here for it. No, no.

Kelli (17:41.555)
It's not landing. It's not landing. Well, listen, especially when you, like somebody said it, I don't know if it was the Braav bros or somebody said it and they're like, you're putting it in the trailer. Like this isn't a joke. Like you're making it like this is gonna be a storyline. Like that's stupid. Like if you have to go to these great lengths to try to get people interested, it's not a good show. It's not working. If you have to start making up lies and passing them off as a prank.

We Wine Whenever (18:04.425)
No, no.

We Wine Whenever (18:05.091)
No.

Kelli (18:10.985)
The show's not working, start over. Start over or scratch it. Or bring back Luanne and Ramona for crying out loud.

We Wine Whenever (18:17.624)
I can't tell you, I read that all over online that they want the old cast back. They are so mad at this new cast.

Kelli (18:25.855)
You gotta listen to David Yontiff.

We Wine Whenever (18:28.058)
I haven't listened to him lately. Was he going off?

Kelli (18:30.345)
I listened to him, it was yesterday and today, he's talking about Jersey and who he thinks is gonna come back and what it would look like. But he did bring that up, like Luan and Ramona, but he also said that Ramona's like banned from the network and he said Ramona has absolutely no interest in coming back to the show. She's finally happy, she made her money, she got her bag, she's with a new guy and she's completely happy not being on TV right now.

but he said the other ones would come back in a heartbeat.

We Wine Whenever (19:02.776)
Well, I would love to see Sonia and Luan. I don't need to see Ramona.

We Wine Whenever (19:02.901)
Yeah.

Kelli (19:06.471)
I don't know if they'd bring Sonya back. Like he was saying that because of the alcohol and the drinking. But then why would they bring Dorinda back?

We Wine Whenever (19:12.364)
Maybe we can get Sonia in rehab. We could get Sonia in rehab, maybe.

We Wine Whenever (19:17.536)
There you go.

Kelli (19:18.217)
Yeah. Yeah. But that's how I felt about this prank. I just think it's ridiculous that this is what they're doing.

We Wine Whenever (19:20.92)
You know? I don't know.

We Wine Whenever (19:21.995)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (19:28.376)
I do too. I do too.

Kelli (19:30.067)
It's not Jersey Shore, you're not Paulie Dee. You're not Prank War Champion.

We Wine Whenever (19:33.6)
No, exactly. You were grown women. I mean, I can't even believe Rebecca let them bad mouth her like that in her relationship, even being a Scientologist and Jewish. Like, why would you want that out there? Even if it is a prank, like I would never allow that. And she was in on it. Like, would you ever allow that? That you're cheating on your husband or that you're swinging and you don't know whose baby it is? Like,

Kelli (19:35.947)
That's right.

We Wine Whenever (19:37.046)
Not only that.

Kelli (19:50.56)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (19:55.807)
No.

Kelli (20:02.176)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (20:03.51)
What kind of, no. The honest-

Kelli (20:05.451)
What were you gonna say, Laura?

We Wine Whenever (20:06.75)
I was just going to say exactly what Wendy said. Exactly the same thing. Exactly the same. Exactly the same thing. Like it's, it's screwed up either way. Either way.

Kelli (20:09.897)
I thought so, because you started shaking your head when Wendy said it. I thought you were gonna say the same thing.

We Wine Whenever (20:10.744)
haha

Kelli (20:19.627)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (20:22.614)
because it's just.

We Wine Whenever (20:22.914)
It reminds me of the secret lives of Mormon wives. I mean, and they're like, you know, like what? I know, I know.

We Wine Whenever (20:26.772)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (20:29.739)
And they really did that.

Kelli (20:35.093)
But yeah, why would you want, I totally agree with you guys. Like I wouldn't, I don't know. That's what I mean. If these are the great, yes, yes, yes. It's like you're selling your soul to the devil.

We Wine Whenever (20:43.732)
It's a bad way to make your money. It's a bad way to make your money. Yeah, it's bad. It's just bad.

We Wine Whenever (20:51.106)
Yes, that's it.

Kelli (20:54.357)
Like you have kids who are one day gonna hear this story and depending on who they hear it from.

We Wine Whenever (20:55.954)
Yeah, how?

We Wine Whenever (21:00.765)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (21:01.732)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (21:06.308)
So then after that, see Raquel and Mel are meeting Aaron and Abe at a gay bar, which is funny. Gabe. Yeah, it was funny. Abe says he has a girl crush on Mel, and Mel keeps calling him gay, which is gay Abe. So Abe's...

We Wine Whenever (21:11.264)
Gabe. Gabe.

It was so funny.

Kelli (21:30.313)
I do like these two couples together, but I have to be honest with you. I'm here for Raquel, I think she's great, but I think we've heard enough about her being a lesbian and how she got there.

We Wine Whenever (21:46.261)
I'm full up.

Kelli (21:47.371)
Do you agree or am I just being snarky?

We Wine Whenever (21:50.516)
I'm full up.

We Wine Whenever (21:51.35)
Well, didn't, I mean, yeah, I mean, Abe didn't hear the story, so Abe wanted to hear the story.

Kelli (21:58.421)
I know, but how many times do we have to hear the story? Like, come on. I'm here for it. I love it. I think she's great. I love Mel. I think I like Mel better than Raquel, but I think that's most people's opinions. But that's all she talks about. At least on the show.

We Wine Whenever (22:00.58)
I don't know, but I was

We Wine Whenever (22:15.748)
Well, that's because people ask her, right? I don't know. Listen, I give Abe a lot of credit. You have to be very secure in your manhood to admit on national TV that when you were in college that you weren't really sure and that you thought maybe you questioned your own sexuality even though you've never kissed a man. listen, kudos to him for that.

Kelli (22:20.223)
I guess.

Kelli (22:27.486)
I agree with that.

Kelli (22:41.395)
Yeah, I mean, we said it last week, though. Like, I just feel like sexuality is fluid and you have a connection with who you have a connection with.

We Wine Whenever (22:49.004)
Not all men feel that way though.

We Wine Whenever (22:49.194)
but I don't... Yeah.

Kelli (22:50.833)
No, and you're right, like even if they had felt that way, not many men would go on national television and admit it. So yeah, good for E.

We Wine Whenever (22:54.54)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (22:58.09)
Yeah, it was just to me, it was a little TMI though. It was a little TMI. Like I don't care. I don't need to know. I don't want to know. It's just keep that to yourself. Like I don't care.

We Wine Whenever (22:58.243)
Right.

Kelli (23:05.419)
you

Kelli (23:12.895)
I'm gonna say something and I really hope I don't get flack for it. I feel like the last season of Rony before they all got fired, race was a huge issue. And that is the reason people didn't necessarily like that season because we watch these shows for entertainment purposes and it's our guilty pleasure and we don't want it to get too serious. I feel like.

We Wine Whenever (23:16.982)
Well, that's okay. We like fly.

Kelli (23:39.695)
This season, they're focusing heavily on sexuality and they're pushing it.

We Wine Whenever (23:43.998)
Yeah. Between Brin's thing and, and everybody, everybody's sexual. It's just like enough already. Vagina pictures on the table. Like stop.

Kelli (23:52.881)
Yeah, and I don't, I hate to, I don't want to get backlash for this because I don't want to sound insensitive and I'm, I love everyone. But we watch this show for entertainment purposes and it's our guilty pleasure and we don't want to think too hard about anything when we watch it.

We Wine Whenever (24:12.034)
No, I agree with that. I agree with that. I do.

We Wine Whenever (24:15.488)
So I want to know, when Mel said that Abe has a lot of lesbian sensibilities, what does that even mean?

Kelli (24:27.092)
No.

We Wine Whenever (24:27.422)
I know we're trying to get away from the sexual innuendo, but I'm like, I was just puzzled for a moment because I was like, I don't understand, like what? I don't know. I was like, okay, I just got to put that out there. Maybe.

We Wine Whenever (24:28.718)
That's a good question.

Kelli (24:32.075)
I'm here for that though

Kelli (24:43.519)
think she was kidding. No? They were totally twinning and I didn't notice it until today when I saw it on social media.

We Wine Whenever (24:45.643)
think she was. mean, they were kind of twinning. Did you see what Abe... I mean, they were twinning. He was trying to help her plan the party, the engagement party. You know, I think that's what she was referring to. you know, they connect and she just happens to be a lesbian. You know, they just connect.

We Wine Whenever (25:10.292)
Okay. Now, did anybody happen to see what the name of the bar was that they went to?

We Wine Whenever (25:18.718)
I did not.

Kelli (25:18.805)
No.

We Wine Whenever (25:20.36)
It was the Bush.

We Wine Whenever (25:24.716)
that's great.

Kelli (25:26.197)
She did say it was a gay bar. It looked like a cafeteria by the way, didn't it? I mean, what bar has bright lights like that?

We Wine Whenever (25:27.912)
Yes. Yeah, she did say yes. She did say.

We Wine Whenever (25:30.23)
But that was the name of it. As they were opening the door, I saw the name of the door and I was like, that's good.

Kelli (25:36.159)
That's hysterical.

Kelli (25:41.791)
That is amazing.

We Wine Whenever (25:43.146)
Yeah, that's a one.

Kelli (25:44.971)
That's great.

We Wine Whenever (25:46.102)
So I was curious to see if either one of you caught that.

Kelli (25:50.623)
I did none. I like it.

We Wine Whenever (25:50.635)
I did not. No, I didn't. I do too. Next thing we see Jessel and her mom, they're gonna go jewelry shopping. That was another odd scene.

Kelli (26:00.447)
Does Jessel work? Doesn't she work?

We Wine Whenever (26:00.5)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (26:02.538)
Well, she has her own company where she brings in Indian designers, right?

Kelli (26:09.223)
Yeah, so why is she taking Pavit's credit card? I mean, she only, not only, because I'm not doing this, by the way, but she went and spent a couple thousand dollars. You work, use your own damn money. What are you taking his credit card for?

We Wine Whenever (26:21.012)
I think because he's so damn cheap and he never wants to spend money. doesn't buy her gifts. He doesn't.

Kelli (26:24.863)
Well, she did, you know what, happy birthday to you, Jessel, you finally got your birthday present.

We Wine Whenever (26:28.074)
Yeah, think that's where she was going. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (26:29.632)
Well, she gave it to her mother. She gave it to her mother.

Kelli (26:32.747)
I think they both bought stuff, because they had two trays there. Okay, this is for your mom and this is for you.

We Wine Whenever (26:38.526)
Yeah, yeah, so exactly. He's cheap. She's like, I get his credit card, I'm using it. He's cheap. doesn't, he doesn't want to spend money on a therapist. You know, he wants to get a cheap therapist.

Kelli (26:44.905)
Yeah, okay, good for you.

We Wine Whenever (26:51.656)
And now she's getting one from Mexico City. I was like, okay.

We Wine Whenever (26:53.586)
I liked.

Kelli (26:57.579)
because he's into food.

We Wine Whenever (26:59.41)
Right. She wanted to appeal to his sensibilities.

We Wine Whenever (26:59.91)
But I mean, come on.

We Wine Whenever (27:05.736)
I know. I think her mother gave her good advice. Like, you know, she said to Jessel, maybe you need the therapist.

We Wine Whenever (27:11.228)
Yeah, that was funny.

Kelli (27:13.248)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (27:14.304)
Which is funny because she was afraid to even tell her mother like they don't believe in therapy

Kelli (27:19.495)
Yeah, her mom's like, you convinced me, you're right.

We Wine Whenever (27:24.416)
Did either one of you know what a push gift was?

Kelli (27:30.281)
Yeah, well, listen, I'll be honest with you. I only know from Housewives. I never got one. I only know from Housewives. It's a big thing in the Housewives, you know, sphere. I never got one. Let's put it that way.

We Wine Whenever (27:30.372)
absolutely.

We Wine Whenever (27:31.521)
I didn't know about that. I'd have never heard of that. No.

We Wine Whenever (27:34.6)
You didn't? yeah, no.

We Wine Whenever (27:41.942)
Comment?

We Wine Whenever (27:44.968)
I think I knew about it before Housewives, but maybe not. No, I definitely knew about it.

We Wine Whenever (27:50.102)
you didn't? I did. I got diamond earrings.

We Wine Whenever (27:51.314)
No, I-

Kelli (27:55.709)
No, I never got a push president.

We Wine Whenever (27:58.367)
Okay, well you're O2. wait, you had a C-section. Wait, you had a C-section? No present for you. No, I'm kidding.

Kelli (27:59.997)
I believe I believe I am.

We Wine Whenever (28:00.01)
Yes.

Kelli (28:05.867)
You know what that's why that's why I didn't at new C-sections

We Wine Whenever (28:06.783)
Yeah

We Wine Whenever (28:08.96)
Okay,

We Wine Whenever (28:11.903)
I'm totally joking. I'm totally joking. So what happens next?

We Wine Whenever (28:16.928)
That was good, Wendy. No.

Kelli (28:17.073)
It doesn't matter, it's not like it's gonna get me a present. Whether you're joking or not.

Kelli (28:27.499)
well, they go to dodgeball. Isn't it interesting that, we see them talking about size hot mic moment. Like I felt like that was breaking the fourth wall a little bit on Jeff Lewis. They're talking about that when they get to dodgeball.

We Wine Whenever (28:30.506)
Take out a dodgeball.

We Wine Whenever (28:30.803)
Yep, that's what happens next.

We Wine Whenever (28:45.871)
yeah!

We Wine Whenever (28:46.889)
Did I notice that?

Kelli (28:49.429)
they brought up that side called Rebecca boring. And I think that's why they did this whole prank. So she could prove that she's not boring.

We Wine Whenever (28:52.668)
boring. That's right. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (28:52.747)
yeah.

We Wine Whenever (29:00.118)
maybe I get it now. Okay. say, yep, yep, yep.

We Wine Whenever (29:00.927)
We Wine Whenever (29:04.915)
And, gosh, I mean, listen, she is boring. And.

Kelli (29:10.473)
I mean, I just feel like they're not, I feel like production's making her look boring. They're pushing the Scientology thing, she's not falling for it. So they're like, well, fuck you then, we ain't gonna talk to you about anything.

We Wine Whenever (29:18.193)
Right.

Mm-hmm. What about what Jessel shows up wearing with those padded shorts?

We Wine Whenever (29:22.187)
Maybe.

We Wine Whenever (29:28.736)
I like how they called her a sporty spice.

We Wine Whenever (29:33.264)
Yeah, with her 80s workout clothes.

Kelli (29:33.267)
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (29:33.526)
That's what they call their sorority spice.

Kelli (29:37.491)
Yeah, it wasn't a bad idea though. She looked, you yeah, because those dodgeballs hurt when you get hit with them.

We Wine Whenever (29:41.096)
So cute.

We Wine Whenever (29:45.268)
I'm not playing dodgeball, ever. Just say it now, just say it now. I hated dodgeball, I hated it my whole life, and I'm sure as shit not playing it, ever, never, no.

Kelli (29:49.139)
I don't want to play dodgeball. I'll wear a helmet if I play dodgeball. This is all I got.

We Wine Whenever (29:52.743)
No dodgeball?

We Wine Whenever (29:57.608)
Really?

Kelli (30:00.019)
I remember playing that in elementary school at midstreams on the blacktop. You know, you both your kids went to midstreams. You know, when you walked out the gym and the blacktop was there, that's where we played dodgeball. You fell, you got hurt.

We Wine Whenever (30:02.326)
Ugh.

Bye.

We Wine Whenever (30:12.82)
Yeah, yeah. There was no messing around.

We Wine Whenever (30:17.47)
All right, so I'm not gonna play in a dodgeball tournament, is that what you're saying? All right, no dodgeball. Okay.

We Wine Whenever (30:19.766)
No, no, it's a hard no.

Kelli (30:20.018)
Nah.

Nah. I'm glad that Jessel went right up to Jenna though and asked her about the basic bitch thing.

We Wine Whenever (30:31.526)
definitely, definitely. And Jessel said, believe Jenna, as she should. As she should. I know.

Kelli (30:36.329)
Yep. Yes, she should, obviously. Yeah. I don't want to hear about it anymore, though. I don't want to hear about the basic pitch thing anymore.

We Wine Whenever (30:48.008)
So, what's her name? Erin shows up with her denim jacket and then she takes it off and she has on the white tennis outfit. Where was she going? I don't even.

Kelli (31:00.009)
I don't know. And then she's making fun of Jessel. I'm like, Jessel's more appropriately dressed than you. What are you wearing?

We Wine Whenever (31:00.32)
Coachella, didn't they say Coachella?

We Wine Whenever (31:04.626)
I know, it's like, and then what the heck was Jenna wearing?

I don't know. And then Brynn has on the chest guard to protect her boobs. And Uba actually, she's like, I'm not even playing. I was like, yeah, she's probably the smartest.

Kelli (31:19.433)
Yeah.

Kelli (31:24.041)
I thought it was great when they showed all them making them mean faces and then you see Uber eating a croissant.

We Wine Whenever (31:24.15)
Smart girl.

We Wine Whenever (31:31.934)
That was funny.

We Wine Whenever (31:32.18)
Yeah, that's great. That's probably like the best thing of the whole episode. I thought it was a bad episode.

We Wine Whenever (31:38.684)
Yeah, I did too. I did too.

Kelli (31:41.193)
I just don't love this season. then, so they bring it up. So Jenna innocently, know, naively says to Rebecca, they were all talking about you. And she didn't want to tell her right then and there, but Rebecca was obviously pushing to hear about it right then and there so they could cause a scene. And then she, me too, me too. And then she,

We Wine Whenever (32:05.566)
I like that Jenna did it though.

Kelli (32:11.003)
acts like she's all pissed off at Erin and they walk outside and start laughing. Fucking weird. Weird.

We Wine Whenever (32:16.298)
Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's stupid. No, I mean, if this is what you're down to, this is where you're going.

We Wine Whenever (32:16.414)
It was weird. It was stupid. There was no point to it.

Kelli (32:24.075)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (32:26.698)
Especially following what the Housewives of New York was. This is what you got. Lame.

Kelli (32:27.007)
The show's done.

Kelli (32:34.047)
Right.

Right.

We Wine Whenever (32:38.834)
That's so funny coming from you, Lori, because you didn't even watch the old New York housewives. You started with this one. I know.

Kelli (32:38.997)
For sure.

We Wine Whenever (32:40.988)
I know. No, but I know, but I, yeah, but I know enough, I know enough about it that to know that, you know, you had big shoes to fill and this is how you're choosing to fill them. I don't know. It's not, it's not landing for moi.

We Wine Whenever (32:49.97)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (32:57.886)
Yeah.

So, Psy was on. Watch What Happens Live with Jeff Lewis. Did you see that?

We Wine Whenever (33:05.578)
Yeah, I did. I saw that. Yep.

Kelli (33:07.729)
I only saw, I don't think I finished it. Did you finish it, Lure?

We Wine Whenever (33:11.252)
Yeah, I finished it. Yeah, I watched it.

So he's not a fan.

We Wine Whenever (33:15.454)
So Jeff Lewis really was going in hard of Brynn, not a fan of Brynn at all, as he shouldn't be because you know what, she was stirring the pot and you know.

Kelli (33:24.555)
Mm-hmm.

She was making it like he called her a prostitute, which he never did.

We Wine Whenever (33:31.422)
All right. I think it was so funny when he said, listen, I've substituted my grandmother, you know, God rest her soul for many years. And as far as I know, she was not a prostitute.

Kelli (33:41.451)
Yeah.

I did not like how Jeff said that he saw a Teresa Giudice in the back in the green room. What was she doing there?

We Wine Whenever (33:50.43)
That was a little strange. That was strange.

We Wine Whenever (33:52.394)
Yeah.

Kelli (33:52.701)
I wish they would have explained why she was there.

We Wine Whenever (33:57.642)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (33:57.662)
I wonder, I didn't watch the after show. I wonder if it was on the, the Watch What Happens Live after show.

Kelli (34:03.563)
I think she's pushing hard for a spin-off and God please let her have it so I don't ever have to watch her again. I think she's pushing hard for a spin-off so maybe she's just showing up at Watch What Happens Live to try to get in Andy's ear, who knows.

We Wine Whenever (34:19.89)
That, no, that would be weird.

We Wine Whenever (34:20.384)
I don't know, but this is, no, but this is the thing. Like she's gotta be, she's gotta be like hurting for Del real soon because I don't think she's this big saver. And if that's where her money was coming from and she was spending like there was no tomorrow, I mean, you gotta have.

Kelli (34:22.079)
Well, I mean, did you put a pastor?

Kelli (34:34.515)
Yeah, that's what they're saying.

Kelli (34:40.191)
Mm-mm.

Kelli (34:46.739)
and he was spending like there was no tomorrow.

We Wine Whenever (34:48.766)
Right. And now he's got all his bankruptcy issues and all his failed business ventures. So I would imagine she's got to be scrambling to try and make the doski. And I'm wondering if that's why, one of the reasons why G is not following up on her law career is because she needs to help her mom make some bank.

Kelli (34:59.552)
Yeah.

Kelli (35:13.355)
I've read that too. I hope that's not true. I'm not a big fan of GIA, but I don't want to ever see somebody give up if they don't have to, like what they really want to do to help their parents financially, but it happened.

We Wine Whenever (35:27.206)
Well, she's still paying off the IRS. She still has that big debt.

Kelli (35:32.854)
another one, right? Like a more recent one, not the one from back in the day.

We Wine Whenever (35:34.426)
Well from, no, that one still exists too. And she's paying off Joe's portion of it too. No, that still exists.

We Wine Whenever (35:47.594)
As I saw a thing with, from her podcast and she had, it was her and Gia. And she was saying how, Gia, remember when you were little and I used to take you into the city like three times a week. And you know, you never got any parts. And now all of a you know, see how it all works out. Now you're getting the parts that you always wanted to get. I'm thinking to myself, no, I think she's getting the parts that you always wanted her to get.

Kelli (35:47.679)
Yeah, so she's, mean.

Kelli (36:17.897)
Yeah, and what parts is she talking about? we gonna see her in any upcoming movies? Like, what are they even talking about?

We Wine Whenever (36:22.326)
No, that new show. That new show. That, making it in Manhattan, whatever.

Kelli (36:26.603)
the made in Manhattan, even though none of them or most of them weren't making it. That's right, that's right.

We Wine Whenever (36:31.065)
Making it, no making it in Manhattan. Yeah, making it.

We Wine Whenever (36:32.318)
Maybe, maybe, not. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, but it was just, it was just this weird little interaction between the two of them from the podcast. It was on like a clip and I thought to myself, you know, now all of sudden it's always been Gia's dream to be, I don't know. I don't know. It was just odd.

Kelli (36:36.81)
All right.

Kelli (36:54.389)
Well, she did the first two seasons. You do see Teresa bringing her into the city to model and and try out for parts. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (37:01.398)
Right, did watch that when I watched the first two seasons, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (37:01.786)
Audition.

Kelli (37:06.793)
Yeah, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (37:08.738)
Even watching her try and do the the head shots and how she kept overdoing them and over-glamming her up when she was just a little girl. That was hard to watch, I'll be honest with you. I'm not a stage mom and all she was was, like she was a stage mom on steroids. Like you are a stage mom.

We Wine Whenever (37:14.5)
Okay.

Kelli (37:17.44)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (37:19.978)
Yes, it was hard to watch. A stage a month. Yes. Yeah.

Kelli (37:24.861)
Right. She's like, they said no makeup. She's like, just a little lip gloss.

We Wine Whenever (37:31.556)
Yeah.

Kelli (37:31.965)
And I thought they were opening a restaurant together, Teresa and Jaya. So what's the real story?

We Wine Whenever (37:39.05)
Who knows? I'm just saying...

We Wine Whenever (37:40.321)
I don't know.

Kelli (37:41.535)
I think they're like us. I think they're just throwing spaghetti on the wall to see what sticks.

We Wine Whenever (37:46.842)
Could be, could be.

We Wine Whenever (37:46.954)
Well, that's what I've been saying. She's got to be starting to hurt for Doe soon because she's got to keep up what she's got, which is a lot. Plus, like you said, owing money already.

Kelli (37:48.255)
That's what they're doing.

Kelli (37:57.065)
Yeah.

Kelli (38:01.257)
And that's what David Yontiff was saying. Yeah. He was like, what does Louie do? Like what does Louie do? And he said, I could, he said, I go back and forth thinking that we can't have New Jersey without Teresa, but I don't, like he's basically saying like, they're not, they're not gonna bring, they're not gonna let Louie back on. And they shouldn't, like I've said this.

since the first season he was on. That guy should not be on TV, nobody. He is a liability, that guy. And I'm sure there's been threats of a lawsuit by him and Teresa if they fire her. I don't know under what premise, I'm just saying, I'm sure they've thrown that out there.

We Wine Whenever (38:51.04)
have to ask Bo.

Kelli (38:51.381)
But what does this guy do for a living?

We Wine Whenever (38:55.638)
We'll have to ask Bo Deedle. Odd. Odd name.

We Wine Whenever (39:00.771)
So have you seen the latest on Teddy Mellencamp? She spoke today.

Kelli (39:06.899)
I didn't hear it, I'm gonna listen to that tomorrow.

We Wine Whenever (39:09.677)
Well, she said a whole lot of nothing when she spoke. She just acknowledged it. But did you see the rumors now that supposedly her husband put out that it was actually her and Kyle that are having the affair?

Kelli (39:12.253)
Okay.

Kelli (39:22.261)
Did he really? I saw something real quick before I went to CCD. Did he really say that?

We Wine Whenever (39:26.489)
I'm not 100 % sure. did see it was posted that he said that. And then in her podcast, she said that I can't really talk about this just yet. And Tamara's like, well, the other side is talking and making allegations. And then Kelly Dodd.

Kelli (39:42.507)
But I also heard that she was with this guy when his wife was giving birth to their child. Was that true?

We Wine Whenever (39:48.226)
I heard that too. And then Kelly Dodd came out and said that she knows the whole story. She said she spoke to Robin, but we don't know who Robin is. That may be, I don't know who Robin is, but she knows the whole story. And she also said that she hopes Edwin gets full custody of the kids. I was like, whoa, Kelly Dodd, you're going in hard. Yeah. So, I mean, that's the, know, is it Kyle? Is that what's going to come out?

Kelli (39:53.995)
How does she know?

Kelli (40:11.275)
Damn.

Kelli (40:17.995)
Could you imagine?

We Wine Whenever (40:18.743)
And that this other guy was just a cover?

Kelli (40:21.555)
And so was Morgan.

We Wine Whenever (40:24.311)
I mean...

Kelli (40:25.267)
I mean, I'm sure Kyle's friends, you know, there's a friendship there with Morgan, but that would be insane.

We Wine Whenever (40:29.195)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (40:33.826)
Yep.

We Wine Whenever (40:35.958)
We shall see.

We Wine Whenever (40:36.227)
Wouldn't that be crazy?

Kelli (40:37.417)
And Edwin really came out and said this?

We Wine Whenever (40:40.057)
I saw that he said it, but I didn't see it on his page. You know what I mean? I don't know if he really said it. That's what they are saying he said. And it's not like, I don't think we're gonna be hearing from the two Eds podcast anytime soon.

Kelli (40:44.563)
Right. Right.

We Wine Whenever (40:59.513)
Although I didn't think we were gonna hear from Brittany and Jax either, but after...

Kelli (41:03.861)
Yeah, what's she saying? I saw that real quick. She's saying that rehab did not change Jax.

We Wine Whenever (41:08.395)
Yes, I was listening to that pod not wasn't even hers. She was on the other that Bravo podcast and she was talking a lot. We're going to find out a lot. The Valley is going to be a good season.

Kelli (41:19.987)
It is. Hey, cause I don't really listen to give them Lala. Why did her cohost leave? Isn't that like her longtime friend?

We Wine Whenever (41:25.113)
Jessica. I don't know. She was on the podcast for three years. She was her personal assistant. She called her ride or die. They did everything together. And all of a sudden, because I do listen to her, she's like, that's my ache and relief that Jessica's not going to be here anymore. And she's going to go fly with her wings and her brother Easton is like, yeah, fly. And then all of a sudden on TikTok, I saw Jessica say,

that she wanted to say goodbye, she wasn't able to, she didn't want it to end this way. So Lala must have fired her, but why?

Kelli (41:59.573)
What does this all mean?

Kelli (42:04.779)
Right, why?

We Wine Whenever (42:06.294)
Why? Why would Lala fire her? I don't know. That's the story I want to know too.

Kelli (42:14.997)
A lot of crazy shit happening on Bravo. You gotta wonder if any of it's real.

We Wine Whenever (42:17.495)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (42:20.246)
That's a problem.

We Wine Whenever (42:20.31)
Well, I will tell you something that is real.

Kelli (42:22.983)
I totally agree. Even the whole Teddy thing. I'm like, is this real?

We Wine Whenever (42:28.492)
Well, she's trying to protect the children right now. So I do think there's gotta be some truth in some of it. know, just where the truth lies, I don't know. But what I do know is true is Candace had her baby with Chris Bassett, a little boy. So God bless, he's adorable. Yeah. What else do I know is true in the Bravo Gossip world?

Kelli (42:41.373)
yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so cute.

We Wine Whenever (42:54.316)
Hmm, I guess that's it. That I could confirm. Only because I saw the baby.

Kelli (42:59.071)
Yeah, exactly. The alleged baby. Yep.

We Wine Whenever (43:04.856)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (43:05.366)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (43:09.304)
All right, I guess until next time, unless you guys have anything else.

We Wine Whenever (43:13.93)
No, but we forgot to do the quote and the would you rathers. I will get that together for our next one.

Kelli (43:13.995)
All set.

Kelli (43:20.935)
I didn't know we had them. Let's do it.

We Wine Whenever (43:23.85)
Yeah, we'll do it next time. No, next time we'll do it. No, I said we forgot to do them for this episode and I will make sure that we have them for next episode.

We Wine Whenever (43:24.482)
We don't have them.

Kelli (43:26.539)
No! I told Lori had them and we forgot to do them.

We Wine Whenever (43:27.32)
You

Kelli (43:36.789)
Got it.

We Wine Whenever (43:38.113)
Sounds like a plan. Okay, listen, I want to remind everyone, go to our social media. We're running a contest. We're giving away a beautiful embroidered tote that says We Wine Whenever. And go check us out. Bye.

We Wine Whenever (43:39.551)
Okie doke.

Kelli (43:39.572)
All right.

Kelli (43:51.924)
No. Bye.

We Wine Whenever (43:53.686)
Bye.