Wanted: Truth and Loyalty

 Wanted: Truth and Loyalty

This episode of Real Housewives of Salt Lake City (S5, E6) takes on a "Mob Wives" theme at Angie’s 25th wedding anniversary party, where tension and drama run high. The episode opens with Gharzi, Angie's assistant, delivering “wanted posters” to the other ladies, summoning them to a “sit-down with the boss.” Angie has decided on a mobster-themed celebration, which sets the stage for a series of confrontations among the cast.

Highlights include Whitney and Meredith attempting to mend fences over a past conflict, Mary confronting Robert Junior about changes in his life, and Bronwyn preparing to face Heather. As the party unfolds, old grudges and fresh arguments erupt, including accusations of mom-shaming and betrayals, culminating in Lisa losing her temper over Whitney’s suspicions. The tension escalates with Brittany’s emotional encounter with her ex and Whitney accusing Lisa of leaking information to the media, causing Lisa to demand an investigation to defend her reputation. The episode ends with a heated altercation between Justin and Seth over accusations of dishonesty.
Takeaways

• The Mob Wives theme adds a clever twist to the episode.
• Character dynamics are influenced by past allegations and friendships.
• Family matters play a significant role in the characters' lives.
• Mary's influence on her son raises concerns about parenting.
• Angie's party serves as a backdrop for various confrontations.
• Heather's manipulations create tension among the housewives.
• The hosts express their thoughts on the producers' role in the drama.
• The importance of credible sources in the housewives' conflicts is emphasized.
• The episode showcases the complexity of friendships in reality TV.
• The hosts reflect on the overall drama and character arcs. The party dynamics reveal underlying tensions among the characters.
• Brittany's arrival shifts the focus of the drama.
• The production of the show influences how events unfold.
• Whitney's confrontation with Lisa highlights personal insecurities.
• Reactions to accusations can reveal deeper character flaws.
• The hosts express empathy for the struggles of the housewives.
• Speculation about who is behind the rumors adds intrigue.
• Brittany's dating strategy raises questions about her intentions.
• The hosts critique the authenticity of the housewives' actions.
• The episode ends with anticipation for future developments.

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Transcript

We Wine Whenever (00:00.695)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever. I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:03.432)
I'm Kelly.

We Wine Whenever (00:04.329)
And I'm Lori.

We Wine Whenever (00:05.708)
We are talking about Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, season five, episode number six, and this one is called Mafia Wives and Bad Vibes.

Kelli (00:17.809)
I love the Mob Wives theme. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (00:20.481)
I did too.

We Wine Whenever (00:21.6)
Well, we like our mob wives stuff.

Kelli (00:25.213)
Yeah. And I just, yeah, but I thought it was so clever of Angie because of the allegations that Meredith made last year. And Meredith's like, I don't get it.

We Wine Whenever (00:25.291)
We do, because we're Jersey.

We Wine Whenever (00:34.369)
I'm

We Wine Whenever (00:36.25)
boy.

We Wine Whenever (00:36.929)
I also liked how we started out in black and white, the filming in the beginning. Did you notice that, Laura? Okay. And Garza arrives. Yep. And he, yep. Yes. Yep. That he summoned, Garza arrives so he could summon the ladies for a sit down with the boss. I liked it.

We Wine Whenever (00:41.898)
Yes.

Kelli (00:43.455)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (00:44.82)
Yes, very, very old school.

Kelli (00:50.163)
and the invitations, the wanted and then, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (00:54.09)
Very cute.

Kelli (01:00.874)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (01:02.674)
And did you notice who didn't get one?

We Wine Whenever (01:04.374)
So he goes into lib.

We Wine Whenever (01:07.894)
Did you notice who didn't get an invitation? Who didn't get a poster? Meredith. Meredith did not get a poster.

Kelli (01:08.478)
Mary?

We Wine Whenever (01:12.135)
I did not. I did not. Who didn't get one?

Kelli (01:21.425)
I didn't notice that.

We Wine Whenever (01:22.37)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (01:24.222)
It's funny because when they do that kind of stuff, I don't really pay attention to like who gets one and who doesn't. She was there though. So she obviously got invited. We just maybe didn't see that. Or maybe he, you know, she wasn't home when he went, I don't know.

Kelli (01:34.666)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (01:38.496)
Yeah, I don't know.

Kelli (01:38.697)
I know that's interesting though. I don't remember seeing that either.

We Wine Whenever (01:43.052)
So Lisa's talking that it's nice that she's being invited because she didn't think that her and Angie were very close anymore. And she's talking to Henry and her husband and they realize it's Monday and that they can FaceTime with Jack on Monday. So they get to do a quick FaceTime with Jack and he tells them that he's eating at the finest establishment in all of Columbia. So he's learned to brag just like his mother.

We Wine Whenever (02:10.762)
Yes. Yes. And it, it looked like he had some fried yuca, yuca fries. That's what it looked like when they showed the picture. Yeah. I think so. He had some yuca.

Kelli (02:12.789)
Good call.

We Wine Whenever (02:20.672)
okay, you think that's what he was eating?

Kelli (02:23.691)
Nice.

We Wine Whenever (02:27.529)
And they talked about that they had gotten some of his tests back and they ruled out a few of the bad things, but they still don't really know what's going on with him.

Kelli (02:35.519)
Yeah, but the fact that a PET scan came back clear, that's, you know, huge.

We Wine Whenever (02:38.526)
Yeah, yeah. Then Whitney and Meredith meet up and Whitney says that she wants to apologize for going so hard on her in Milwaukee. Which I didn't really get that to be quite honest with you. Like, yeah. I mean, I thought it should have been the other way around.

Kelli (02:54.217)
Wait, Whitney apologizing to Meredith? Yeah, I didn't get that either.

No, it's because Whitney is trying to paint Lisa like, you know, the big villain now. So she's so she, you know, wanted to think it was Meredith bringing this story to light about the, the lobby, whatever. I couldn't remember the name of it. So she's going to apologize to Meredith to make it seem like I'm so sorry. I know it was Lisa all along.

We Wine Whenever (03:15.621)
Alipop.

We Wine Whenever (03:15.862)
That's so funny, Kelly.

We Wine Whenever (03:27.776)
Well, two, was like trying to grab her onto her side, trying to recruit Meredith onto the Lisa Villain side, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (03:28.658)
Yeah, and she's,

Kelli (03:34.835)
Yeah, of course, gain an ally.

We Wine Whenever (03:41.809)
Well, I Meredith even says like she thanks her for taking the accountability, but she said you better make sure you get your facts in order before you go after Lisa.

Kelli (03:53.651)
Yeah, cause she's going the distance.

We Wine Whenever (03:55.654)
Yeah.

So that, yeah, I mean, she does, no, no, well, she says to her, I want you to keep an open mind and make sure you're dealing with real credible sources, real credible sources, and that you don't have another agenda, that they don't have another agenda. Whoever you're getting your information from, make sure that it's credible. I did see online about this whole situation that supposedly Whitney set up Adam

Kelli (03:59.231)
we didn't get there yet. Sorry. I thought that was last week.

Kelli (04:09.426)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (04:27.452)
to get the story that she wanted, that she wanted it to be, Lisa.

Kelli (04:31.797)
Do you think Adam's just putting that out there though to make clear his name?

We Wine Whenever (04:35.594)
Who knows?

We Wine Whenever (04:36.264)
I don't know. I don't know what's going on with this whole thing, but I will tell you the Brav Bros were going hard on a-

Kelli (04:44.415)
They shouldn't be involved, they shouldn't be getting, Housewives shouldn't be getting podcasters, bloggers, anybody like that involved. They just shouldn't. You shouldn't be friends with them, you shouldn't hang out with them.

We Wine Whenever (04:56.628)
Well, mean, you know, it's these, feel bad for the actual producers of the show because you got to put up with all these housewives wanting to do all this self production. So they just want to get all these other people involved and do their own digging and their own witch hunts. And it must be horrible trying to wrangle them in for the producers. Like who wants to deal with Lisa Barlow?

We Wine Whenever (04:58.236)
Get out the door.

Kelli (05:20.543)
Well, maybe the housewives feel like the production does them so dirty all the time that they have to self produce.

We Wine Whenever (05:29.834)
Maybe, I don't know.

Kelli (05:33.086)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (05:33.499)
I mean, the production was involved in this. They have to get Adam's permission. He said he had to sign a release. don't paint Adam or the producers into the, you know, they knew what they were getting themselves into. They thought it would be good TV.

Kelli (05:48.629)
That's what I mean, like Adam should not have agreed to be on the show. Like just stay in your lane. Just stay in your lane. They're not your friends. They're going to use you.

We Wine Whenever (05:55.936)
well for-

We Wine Whenever (06:00.054)
Right. But for somebody like that, that, you know, it was probably a hard thing for him to say no to because that's something that can pivot you into a whole nother direction. You know, I mean, imagine if Bravo called us up and said, you know, do you want to be part of this? Blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, it's a tough one to turn down.

Kelli (06:16.053)
Yeah.

Kelli (06:25.941)
I don't think I'd do it though after all this. I really don't. Not that I think I'd ever get the opportunity, but uh-uh, not after this. And I wonder, he must've done all this before, I mean, I don't know if it would've changed his mind, but before everything came out about Teresa and Jen talking to bloggers. Because after that, I would never get involved. F that, people doxing you and all that nonsense.

We Wine Whenever (06:28.872)
No, not after all this. No.

We Wine Whenever (06:49.034)
Yeah.

Yeah, it's a mess.

Kelli (06:52.255)
going after your kids, threatening your kids. my gosh, no way.

We Wine Whenever (06:57.263)
No, that's crazy town. Yeah.

Kelli (06:58.75)
Mm-hmm

We Wine Whenever (07:02.724)
So then we see Mary talking to Robert Jr. again. He's going up the stairs with Lex, who it says on the caption that it's his wife, right? Supposedly his, yeah, wife. Mary says that he's changed a lot since his person has come into his life. So I guess she's kind of attributing his actions to Lex, which may or may not be true.

We Wine Whenever (07:29.608)
or

We Wine Whenever (07:33.256)
Or, you just, you guys know how it is. You guys have boys. Sometimes they get a girlfriend and it's a good thing. Sometimes they get a girlfriend and it's not so good. So maybe Robert Jr. would have done this stuff anyway, but maybe she's more of a bad influence as opposed to a good influence. And you know, it's weird how they like...

Kelli (07:49.343)
They're definitely influential.

We Wine Whenever (07:59.37)
Did the breakaway where you see like Robert Junior's picture when he was young and you know, like the two of them like slinking up the staircase, not turning towards anybody with their incognito. It was just, producers know what they're producing.

Kelli (08:17.707)
Producers definitely know what they're producing because quite honestly if she were filming and the cameras were set up and Robert Jr. came home with this girl and they looked under the influence out of respect for Mary they should have shut the cameras down and let him go upstairs and get in his room and not film that. This kid's clearly going through something on camera and it's probably not something Mary wanted to share with the whole world because who would?

We Wine Whenever (08:40.053)
Yes.

Kelli (08:45.897)
It's a fucking nightmare to go through that as a parent. So I think that producers kind of did her dirty show in that scene.

We Wine Whenever (08:54.966)
I'm just saying.

We Wine Whenever (08:55.233)
I totally agree. mean Mary handled it fine.

We Wine Whenever (08:59.062)
They know what they're doing by setting it up a certain way. I mean, there's a reason why they set it up that he was, you know, coming up the stairs as she came around the corner, like they were sneaking up the, you know what I mean? They just.

Kelli (08:59.467)
she did.

Kelli (09:12.925)
Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (09:16.161)
So she tells him to stay in his room because she's going to be having company, which we know is right, which I know he's not going to have a problem with. then, yes, they did. And then we see Bronwyn shows up at Mary's house and she shows up with this big, huge orchid. And Mary says that's her favorite flower, her favorite. Yeah.

Kelli (09:21.727)
and there's cameras in the house. Right, exactly. They look like they wanted to go take a nap.

We Wine Whenever (09:38.486)
Beautiful orca. That's a couple hundred bucks.

Kelli (09:43.701)
Yeah, that was.

We Wine Whenever (09:45.434)
And Mary walks, Bronwyn walks into Mary's house and she's like, she loves it. And like, they must've been thinking alike because they both have blue kitchens. I mean, one is Tiffany blue and the other one is cobalt blue, but they do both have blue kitchens. And then Bronwyn starts telling Mary about what she, hold on. I gotta turn the page. What she discovered at the airport with Lisa.

So she starts breaking that down for Mary, which I was glad that she kind of told her one-on-one about what happened. And Mary kind of opened up too. And she said that, my son hasn't met his grandparents either. Yeah.

Kelli (10:28.299)
That's interesting, isn't it? Well, her father passed, right?

We Wine Whenever (10:33.429)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (10:33.693)
Well, yeah, her father passed, but Robert Sr.' parents are both dead. And her mom wasn't, I mean, her mom is still alive, but her mom wasn't present. So.

Kelli (10:42.901)
Her mom, she and her mom have no relationship. She said that in the first season, remember? Because her mom wanted to marry Robert Senior. Her mom wanted to be the next First Lady of the church. She was very upset when it was married. Did she say if Robert Junior ever met her father? I forget.

We Wine Whenever (10:46.77)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (10:50.481)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (10:55.027)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (11:02.183)
no because she said he's never met his grandparents so i would assume not i mean he must have i don't know

Kelli (11:08.093)
I wonder if her parents were still married when her father passed.

We Wine Whenever (11:12.394)
I don't know.

We Wine Whenever (11:12.669)
I don't know. Something tells me now, because she said that her mother was very involved with men and that she had no time for the kids. Like she didn't feed them. It's not like they couldn't afford food. She just wasn't around. She was too busy with other men. She did say that. So my guess is no. That's why, you know.

Kelli (11:13.885)
I-

Kelli (11:29.769)
Yeah, I think you're right. I think you're right.

We Wine Whenever (11:34.63)
must be why that situation with Brittany really triggers her.

We Wine Whenever (11:35.976)
Go ahead, Laura.

Kelli (11:44.127)
I think she said that. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (11:44.328)
Mary.

We Wine Whenever (11:45.948)
Yeah, she did. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (11:52.882)
So Mary says to Bronwyn, listen, I don't judge you. I'm dealing with, you know, things with him right now, but he's still my baby and you have to be real with your kids. And, you know, we saw, we know what she's dealing with. We could see it on the show. We, you know, we know what she's dealing with and we, you know, we feel for her. And then Bronwyn's telling Mary how she's excited about Angie's party, but she's not thrilled about seeing Heather.

Kelli (12:15.647)
for

We Wine Whenever (12:22.045)
because she's kind of done with the bullshit. Mary says, what I do know about Heather is that she can be two-faced and I've called it from day one. And she has called it from day one.

Kelli (12:32.747)
called her fraud.

We Wine Whenever (12:35.392)
I like how Mary says, I need one face at a time.

Kelli (12:41.307)
Yeah, yeah. I totally agree. think Heather, I think Heather's desperate to be on the show and she'll do anything to stay on. She will talk about anyone, she'll throw anyone under the bus. She will try to make an ally with anybody. Like right now it's Lisa. Last year it was Meredith. Like she is just gonna buddy up with whoever she thinks will keep her on the show. I think she's desperate to be on this show. I think she's the thirstiest housewife there ever was.

We Wine Whenever (12:41.788)
You

We Wine Whenever (12:42.27)
In regards to Heather, I need one face edit.

We Wine Whenever (13:11.417)
Yeah, and that's sad, you know? It really is. I mean, I don't know about the thirstiest, but she is very thirsty. mean...

We Wine Whenever (13:11.712)
Ooh, there you go.

Kelli (13:16.736)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (13:22.541)
I would have to say Jill Zarin might be the thirstiest.

Yeah.

Kelli (13:29.707)
Yeah, it's a good run for her.

We Wine Whenever (13:31.204)
Okay. So then we see Angie's getting ready for her gangster party and she's talking to her daughter, Electra, and she says, girl power. And Electra says, please don't ever say that again. I laugh because there's many things I say to my kids and they're like, ma, don't say that. yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. don't like that.

Kelli (13:33.503)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kelli (13:46.693)
You

Kelli (13:51.059)
mid, Riz.

We Wine Whenever (13:55.506)
It really, it reminded me of that whole thing, Wendy, with your boys was telling you not to say stuff. As soon as, as soon as I saw that, was like, it reminds me of Wendy and her boys.

Kelli (14:01.546)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (14:03.501)
Yep.

So Angie's husband Sean, I really liked that Angie's husband Sean was there greeting everybody at the door.

Kelli (14:19.669)
I like him a lot.

We Wine Whenever (14:20.972)
I think, listen, I think he's a class acts of that guy. really do. Considering how he came onto the show and what they put him through, the rumors.

Kelli (14:28.051)
Exactly.

and the nastiness.

We Wine Whenever (14:31.06)
You're BÜHMES!

We Wine Whenever (14:32.066)
and the nastiness.

Kelli (14:33.771)
And, you know, listen, if I were him, I would never allow Meredith to walk through my front door ever again in her life. But good for him for being more mature than I am.

We Wine Whenever (14:45.751)
Yeah, yeah, because she spoke to her husband about, you know, the party. And he was OK.

We Wine Whenever (14:50.516)
Yeah, did you see where, did you see where Whitney was getting ready? And even though her hair is short, you could see she has extensions. Did you guys notice that? She was getting her hair done. You could see her extensions.

Kelli (15:02.719)
Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (15:09.27)
Interesting. No, I didn't realize you wear them for short hair. thought like girls wear them that would have I didn't realize that short hair girls wore extensions. thought just people who want to have long hair wore extensions.

We Wine Whenever (15:09.741)
No surprise.

Kelli (15:11.371)
She's got some damage, yeah.

Kelli (15:21.259)
She might have had to cut her hair real short because of the damage from having the extensions.

We Wine Whenever (15:27.318)
maybe. Yeah, because there's still something going on there. So I was just like, hmm.

Kelli (15:31.189)
So they had to put like light extensions in to just fill in.

We Wine Whenever (15:35.456)
to filter in. All right.

We Wine Whenever (15:40.994)
So then we see Meredith is encouraging Whitney to talk to Lisa, which, okay, but really at this party, like is this where they need to have that conversation? It's Angie's 25th anniversary party.

Kelli (15:55.037)
Yeah, but they're gonna.

We Wine Whenever (15:55.904)
Don't they always have inappropriate conversations at inappropriate places? This is how it's par for the course.

We Wine Whenever (15:56.865)
Yeah, they're gonna.

Kelli (16:00.809)
Yes. But little do they know what's coming and that their little tat is going to get overshadowed by something else.

We Wine Whenever (16:08.521)
Yeah, so Angie said things between her and Lisa are a little bit awkward, but since they've been friends for 15 years, it would have been strange if she didn't invite her to her anniversary celebration. And Brittany shows up at the party with Aaron and Heather sees him and says, my God, that's Aaron. I know him. And then admits that she made out with him, which is, you know, it's so it's small town. It's small town.

Kelli (16:32.683)
That's Clearly, clearly.

We Wine Whenever (16:36.17)
Yeah, but why do you gotta do that?

We Wine Whenever (16:36.919)
Then Mary walks up to Brittany's date.

Well, cause it's awkward, like you just saw him. What do you mean? Admit it?

We Wine Whenever (16:41.792)
Why'd he gotta do that?

We Wine Whenever (16:46.022)
But why'd he gotta, why'd he gotta, yeah, why'd he gotta be like, I know him, I kissed him. just, all right, bring it up later on to her in, in, in private. Like, I don't know, it was just like, it was cringy, it was weird.

Kelli (16:55.211)
Because that's who she is, Heather.

We Wine Whenever (16:56.906)
Yeah.

Kelli (17:00.991)
Right. Now that's who she is. She's not gonna... You know, all she had to do was tell production and they're like, go say it.

We Wine Whenever (17:05.045)
Yeah.

I thought the best was.

Yeah, I thought the best was when Mary walks up to Brittany and says, Hi Jared, how are you? And Brittany's like, no, no, this is Erin. And Mary kept insisting. Mary, who was Mary? Mary, Mary was trying to tell Meredith that that was Jared.

Kelli (17:19.935)
That was so funny.

Kelli (17:26.453)
Yeah, and Meredith looked them up. She's like, that's not him. But they did look alike. I mean, she's obviously got a type.

We Wine Whenever (17:26.709)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (17:28.661)
Right? That, I tell you. I mean, they did look alike, but the whole time when Mary is trying to sell this guy is Jared, I'm like, my God, I'm loving Mary. This is it, I really am.

We Wine Whenever (17:46.71)
Well, as far... yeah. But as far as Mary's concerned, you know, she's won't shut up about this guy Jared. She walks in the door with some guy. Of course she's gonna think it's Jared. Who are you gonna think it is? She don't shut up about him.

Kelli (17:47.015)
might be the best comeback season for any housewife.

Kelli (18:02.697)
I totally agree with you. Totally.

We Wine Whenever (18:04.149)
So then Angie get.

We Wine Whenever (18:04.886)
How about when, how about when, how about when Brahman walked in and she said, she was, trying to channel her. I don't know if you guys caught it where she said she was channeling my Todd father died and I'm mourning his mobster. Did you see that? It made, was a play on words and said it saying she was dressing like her God father died. She said, I'm dressing like.

We Wine Whenever (18:10.613)
Good.

Kelli (18:27.656)
No.

We Wine Whenever (18:34.41)
My Todd father died.

Kelli (18:39.913)
What does that mean though? Who's Todd? her husband. duh. I couldn't believe when she said, I feel so underdressed. I'm like, you do? Like, why do you feel underdressed? You're like so flamboyant in everything you wear.

We Wine Whenever (18:39.958)
you have to watch it.

We Wine Whenever (18:41.865)
Her husband. Her husband's name is Todd.

We Wine Whenever (18:42.806)
Her husband. Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (18:52.502)
You have like-

We Wine Whenever (18:56.18)
Right. Yeah.

Kelli (19:00.395)
That's funny. I did not catch that.

We Wine Whenever (19:03.367)
I did, I actually did catch it. So Angie gives a speech and thanks everyone for coming to her, celebrate her 25th anniversary. And Sean reminds her a lot of her dad and her dad is there. And when her dad first met Sean, he had long hair and earrings and they showed us pictures of him. And he was like, you know, an old school hippie. And you know, I, listen, I think that she's got a very, Angie has a great relationship with her father. We've seen him, you know.

ever since she's been on the show. And it's a testament to her relationship with her husband that her father's supported it from the very beginning. And, you know, I thought it was nice. I thought it was very nice.

Kelli (19:45.173)
You know, I forgot Angie's mom passed when she was so little or young. did you see the picture of her and all of her siblings with her father? She has a lot of siblings and I tried to look it up and I could not find anything where you could see how many siblings she has, but she's got a lot of siblings.

We Wine Whenever (19:48.635)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (19:56.091)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (19:56.662)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (20:07.002)
Yeah, that's interesting, right? Like we don't know, you know, and it's interesting.

Kelli (20:10.601)
I couldn't find it anywhere. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (20:16.348)
Then Melee shows up with her boyfriend, Ty, and Braunwyn goes up to Lisa and congratulates her. What was she congratulating her for?

Kelli (20:30.037)
Lisa?

We Wine Whenever (20:30.908)
Yeah.

Kelli (20:35.071)
I don't know, I totally missed that.

We Wine Whenever (20:35.21)
I don't remember. Yeah. I don't know.

We Wine Whenever (20:40.782)
I don't know. then she, okay, so then she goes on to tell her that she wanted to be real with her, that Heather told Lisa something and she wanted to make sure that she got it straight, that Heather said that you and Angie said something about her parenting.

We Wine Whenever (20:57.764)
Lisa. Well, I still don't know what she was congratulating her for.

We Wine Whenever (21:04.15)
I don't know. It's your notes. I don't know, girl.

We Wine Whenever (21:06.716)
Date date

Kelli (21:07.051)
She brought up them having the conversation in the salt cave, right? Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (21:11.088)
Right, yes, yes, because Heather did tell Lisa that Angie said that your son plays video games all the time.

Yeah, I don't know why I wrote it. I mean, this was last week. This is late for us to do this.

We Wine Whenever (21:28.592)
That's what happens.

Kelli (21:29.427)
I know we were supposed to, yeah, we were a few days late, so it's not fresh in our minds. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (21:32.512)
Technical difficulties. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (21:36.306)
And I've like watched three other episodes since then so it's like I I don't remember. Sorry

We Wine Whenever (21:39.391)
Okay?

Kelli (21:39.623)
Exactly. I know just like the yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (21:44.656)
You know, you get it. Then Bronwyn says to Angie, I don't know what your relationship with Lisa is, but I feel like she runs to her and tells her things and then runs away from it like she's fueling it, which is what happens. Yes, yes, yes, yes. And Angie says, I don't like it either. I feel like

Kelli (22:02.475)
Heather. She's talking about Heather. Yes. Yes. 100%. That's what she's doing.

We Wine Whenever (22:02.868)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (22:12.111)
I need to talk to Heather and see what is going on because that is what Heather's doing. She's like sprinkling this information here and there. First she tells Lisa, you know, and she even with Whitney, even with her cousin, like she's not like, and Mary's the one who's calling her out on it.

Kelli (22:22.186)
Yep.

Kelli (22:30.377)
Right, Mary, she's totally calling Heather out on all of it. Yeah, but the best was after that conversation between Mary and Heather, she goes and sits down with those little girls and starts talking.

We Wine Whenever (22:34.538)
Mary's calling everybody.

We Wine Whenever (22:38.51)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (22:47.486)
my god, that was so funny.

We Wine Whenever (22:48.5)
That's great.

Those kids were like, who's this kooky lady, Who's this kooky lady?

Kelli (22:52.203)
was so funny! They're just looking at her like, I don't- are we- Yeah! Are we even supposed to be sitting here right now? Or should we be talking to her? That was the best.

We Wine Whenever (22:53.817)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (23:03.21)
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (23:03.884)
Ahaha!

We Wine Whenever (23:07.017)
Now was it

We Wine Whenever (23:07.714)
That was so I...

We Wine Whenever (23:10.73)
Was it Heather that said arguing with Mary is like arguing with the Mormon church? They will gaslight you until you were...

We Wine Whenever (23:20.214)
and tell you what you're saying is not true and then they tell you that they'll never hurt you. I think that was Heather said in her confessional in regards to Mary, that arguing with Mary is like arguing with the Mormon church. That was a one.

Kelli (23:30.077)
I think she did say that, which.

Kelli (23:36.339)
Yeah, yeah, not now, Heather. Wrong.

We Wine Whenever (23:39.527)
No. Yeah.

Kelli (23:43.093)
She's very defensive and walks away. Like all these housewives do when they're caught. When they're caught doing something instead of taking accountability for it, they just get pissed off and defensive and walk away.

We Wine Whenever (23:45.461)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (23:54.221)
Yeah, no, that's what happens. mean, Mary specifically even says like, Heather leaves these little trails of lies. And that's what she's doing. She's, you know, stirring the pot here, stirring the pot there. And, you know, it's, it's just, it's distracting. And I wonder what it's distracting from. Like, I wonder what she's like trying to avoid.

Kelli (24:05.994)
Right.

Kelli (24:18.399)
Well, she's not sharing anything in her own life because she probably doesn't have anything going on. So she's got to do this to remain relevant. Doesn't have, you know, her daughters, they're here and there, but they don't, you know, really want, I guess they don't really want to film or, you know, whatever. They're just not those kids that want to be on the show all the time.

We Wine Whenever (24:35.822)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (24:41.015)
It's true. So I have Angie's now talking to Heather saying that Bronwyn came to me and told me that you said Lisa said that that she's a shit mother and that's not true.

Kelli (24:54.035)
Right, Braunwyn tells that Angie says to Heather that Braunwyn told her that you, you know, I told, said that Lisa was not a good mother. Right.

We Wine Whenever (25:05.271)
Right. And she says that,

That's not true. I think you were mom shaming her and I don't think that's what you've said is right. I don't think that what you said is right. Angie says you're taking sides and she's like, I don't take sides, but that is exactly what she does. Right. That's exactly what she does. So then Heather says to Braunwyn that she's out of line and Braunwyn says, I'm not out of line. If you think you're the head bitch in charge, you're wrong. I was like, whoa.

Kelli (25:24.703)
Totally taking it aside.

We Wine Whenever (25:25.184)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (25:39.491)
I mean, Braunman's coming in hot. And then in her confessional, she says, you believe Heather is not metal, is not meddling, is not meddling, bitch, neither am I. yeah, that's what she said. Then bitch, neither am I. Yeah, that's what she said. Yeah. If you think Heather's not meddling, then bitch, neither am I. And I was like, whoa. And then all of a sudden who walks in the door, but Jared Osmond.

We Wine Whenever (25:50.378)
Neither am I. Yeah, yeah. That's what I was going to say. Yeah.

Yes, yeah.

Kelli (25:55.541)
Right.

Kelli (26:01.801)
Yep.

We Wine Whenever (26:01.984)
Yeah.

Kelli (26:06.005)
So crazy.

We Wine Whenever (26:07.523)
Yeah. I mean, what was even crazier is that Justin invited him.

We Wine Whenever (26:07.85)
so produced.

Kelli (26:12.201)
And Whitney's like, I don't even think Justin knows what he did. Guess he Guess he did fucking know what he was doing. Stop it. Whitney's like a little, is she like a little kid? She's like a little girl. Yeah, so immature.

We Wine Whenever (26:12.406)
produced.

We Wine Whenever (26:17.92)
Of course he did. So on purpose.

Very immature.

We Wine Whenever (26:24.301)
Yeah, he definitely, yeah, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (26:26.55)
Yes, that's why. Does it marry, does it marry, call her little girl? Didn't marry you to call her little girl. There you go.

Kelli (26:32.017)
Little girl. Yeah. And it's so true. yeah. Now she's the new little girl. It's so true though, Whitney. She's so juvenile. She's just, she just, she's just like a little kid. God. If my husband left me for somebody like that, I'd be like, really?

We Wine Whenever (26:34.809)
Well, until Brittany came, until Brittany came. Now she's a new little girl.

We Wine Whenever (26:38.804)
Yeah, she's a new little girl.

We Wine Whenever (26:49.551)
I'm

We Wine Whenever (26:51.21)
Yeah, right.

We Wine Whenever (26:54.297)
So when he walks in, Angie goes over to him and greets him, which I thought was a little odd, but I guess it's her anniversary party and she knows who he is, but she didn't invite him.

Kelli (26:54.411)
Yeah.

Kelli (27:06.813)
Yeah, I mean, don't you ask like, Hi, thanks for coming. How'd you even know about this?

We Wine Whenever (27:07.126)
But who, but like, yeah.

Right. like it, it had, it had to be produced because who, what is, what would Justin even be thinking? I was watching some podcasts about some other people talking about this episode and someone called him Justine because you know, being like housewife meddling, but who invites somebody to somebody else's party? Like, doesn't even make sense. Yeah.

Kelli (27:38.207)
And why would you go?

We Wine Whenever (27:39.853)
in the middle of the party.

Kelli (27:41.535)
Yeah, but honestly, I think Brittany knew he was coming too. I think that whole scene with them outside was completely produced by them. I think that was self-produced by her. I think she knew he was coming.

We Wine Whenever (27:50.505)
Of course it was.

We Wine Whenever (27:55.7)
Yeah. And, production did that too. You know, they go.

We Wine Whenever (27:57.603)
You think Aaron knew he was coming too?

Kelli (27:59.643)
No, I think that Brittany knew he was coming and probably at the last minute asked this guy Aaron to go with her. So she wasn't there alone.

We Wine Whenever (28:08.557)
Yeah, that's interesting.

We Wine Whenever (28:08.702)
Maybe. But you know, it's totally produced because you're in Angie's house, it's light, it's bright, there's people talking, there's all kinds of stuff going on. And then when he comes, you go out into this like, totally different scene where like they're setting the mood, like the secluded garden and it's dark and it makes it intimate. it's just...

Kelli (28:30.483)
Right. Stop. Yep.

We Wine Whenever (28:31.158)
And in between the scene, before she goes inside, all of a sudden she's wearing a coat. He never took his coat off to give it to her. They walk outside, she doesn't have a coat on. Then mid-scene, they get up to go back inside, she has a coat on.

He didn't give a tour.

Kelli (28:50.668)
that's interesting.

We Wine Whenever (28:51.95)
Yeah, she said she was freezing. Yeah.

Kelli (28:54.623)
This guy just wants, he's very cringy and he just wants to be on TV. He just wants to be on TV. It's very clear.

We Wine Whenever (28:54.709)
He didn't give a tour.

We Wine Whenever (28:58.782)
Right. But all I'm saying is somebody else gave her that coat. So of course it was, it's just so produced.

Kelli (29:07.763)
Yeah. And then he tells her he loves her.

We Wine Whenever (29:11.83)
God. And who watched it and didn't sit at the TV? And when he asked her, do you want me to leave or whatever, I was like, just say yes, just say yes, just say yes. And of course she said no. Yeah. Yes, yes, yes. Get the fuck out.

Kelli (29:13.855)
He tells her he loves her.

Kelli (29:26.997)
You're screaming at the, I'm like, yes, yes, yes.

We Wine Whenever (29:30.682)
Right, I know, it was crazy.

Kelli (29:33.641)
Why would she say no to that? Why would she say no?

We Wine Whenever (29:37.642)
because obviously she's got a lot of issues.

Kelli (29:42.313)
And again, I'm not judging her because I've been, I'm not judging her for being in love with somebody who doesn't love her back the way she wants them to, because I've been there, but I was much younger. And I didn't have children yet. Like, I just feel like, come on.

We Wine Whenever (29:55.872)
Yes.

Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (30:02.084)
It's so immature. It really is.

Kelli (30:03.453)
It's very immature.

We Wine Whenever (30:05.43)
I have secondhand embarrassment for her.

We Wine Whenever (30:07.088)
So where do we get?

Kelli (30:09.309)
Exactly. Exactly.

We Wine Whenever (30:09.86)
After we get through that scene, Whitney pulls Lisa aside and asks her if she's aware that she left her necklace in Milwaukee. And Lisa said it was an accident. And Whitney asked Lisa if she's the one who put the information out there because she got confirmation that she fed that information to an account. Now, Lisa's re- She didn't get confirmation. No, I don't think she did.

We Wine Whenever (30:31.456)
which she didn't.

We Wine Whenever (30:36.921)
No.

We Wine Whenever (30:40.291)
you

Kelli (30:40.423)
and Lisa will drag Whitney. I'm sorry. She will drag her.

We Wine Whenever (30:44.363)
And then Lisa, yeah, Lisa says, last time you saw, last time I saw you texted me, you love me. Whitney says, I do love you. That's why this hurts so much. Yeah. And then this is when Lisa starts flipping out. She starts screaming, you're lying. Shut the fuck up. Flipping out. She's giving me names right now. She give me, give me names right now. Like who told you? This is, this is what I find confusing. If you didn't do it,

Kelli (30:51.179)
That's why it hurts so bad.

We Wine Whenever (30:54.71)
Thank

We Wine Whenever (31:12.567)
then why are you flipping out?

Kelli (31:15.455)
because she sees what's happening. She sees that Whitney's doing. She already called her a villain on a podcast prior to filming, and now she's really trying to make her look like a villain. And we see what's going on now. Not that anybody's making Tamara look like a villain. Tamara is the villain, and people are calling for her to get fired. People are calling for Teresa and Melissa to get fired. People are calling for these housewives to get fired.

And Lisa thinks that Whitney's setting her up for that.

We Wine Whenever (31:48.662)
I was like.

Kelli (31:50.187)
But to me, it's very clear that Whitney is way out of her league. She does not know what the fuck she's doing, and she's not doing a very good job at whatever she's trying to do.

We Wine Whenever (31:57.087)
No.

No, she's trying to self-produce.

We Wine Whenever (32:01.229)
I think that the way she's flipping out makes her look guilty. I do.

Kelli (32:06.083)
No, to me there's a difference. Like when Heather freaks out on OC, you know she's guilty. This doesn't appear to be guilty to me. I think there's a difference.

We Wine Whenever (32:20.19)
I was waiting for her to like call out, like, you know, call Scooby-Doo team, call like, the way she was like, call the LAP, like, what are you doing? Call Charlie's Angels.

We Wine Whenever (32:21.187)
I mean, we do know.

Kelli (32:29.386)
Yeah.

Kelli (32:33.599)
Her husband knew exactly who she was calling. Heather's like, who's she calling? And he's like,

We Wine Whenever (32:36.47)
That guy on the other side of the phone makes good money off of Lisa Barlow, but you know he was like, my God, this one. This one calling me with this drama. He must be like,

We Wine Whenever (32:36.993)
Right.

Kelli (32:48.137)
Yep.

We Wine Whenever (32:54.093)
That's so, it was so funny. And this, right.

Kelli (32:55.051)
She wants the LAPD involved. Why is that? Where's Up and Atom in LA? I thought he was in South Carolina.

We Wine Whenever (32:57.31)
Yeah. No. I don't know. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (33:03.235)
I mean, I do kind of think he's in LA because I told you he used to work at Sir.

Kelli (33:07.481)
that's right. You're right. Yep. Well, there you go. So at some point, Lisa must have, Whitney must have said who it was, but they didn't say his name on camera. And that's why she said, I want the LAPD involved.

We Wine Whenever (33:17.484)
Right.

Yeah.

Kelli (33:22.697)
Listen, she's calling her cyber guy and saying it, so anybody can hire a cyber guy and investigate it.

We Wine Whenever (33:28.547)
You know what's so funny is that, do you remember when Jen Shaw got taken off the bus by, know, the, was it the FBI? Yeah. And I think, yeah, Homeland security, FBI, whoever it was, was, you know, it was a big deal. And the first thing Lisa's doing is calling her 10 attorneys. I mean, this is what she does. I'm calling my 10, okay, right.

Kelli (33:37.503)
Yes.

the feds. Homeland security or something.

Kelli (33:51.465)
Yeah. I'm freaking out right now. Literally shaking.

We Wine Whenever (33:58.587)
Like you're sitting on the bus, I'm calling my 10 attorneys. She's like, I'm calling my private security. Get me the LAPD. Get me the Salt Lake City. Get the FBI in here. It was just so over the top. It was so, it was so over the top.

We Wine Whenever (33:58.59)
my god.

Kelli (34:06.303)
Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (34:07.85)
So funny. Yeah, she lost her shit, She lost her shit.

Kelli (34:13.003)
I loved it though. And I honestly didn't take it as guilt. I feel like a lot of times you can see how people react and they're showing their guilt. I, for some reason, do not think that's what this was all about. No.

We Wine Whenever (34:26.73)
You don't think so.

Well, speaking of that, go ahead, Wendy, sorry.

We Wine Whenever (34:30.979)
I mean, Lisa was saying.

We Wine Whenever (34:36.087)
that she was just saying like, this is my character, this is my character. I mean, is it really your character? I think the way you're reacting to it is your character as well. Listen, right.

Kelli (34:39.85)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (34:44.952)
Is your character. Yeah.

Kelli (34:46.695)
No, because again, all these housewives, excuse me, are talking to bloggers and stuff and she doesn't want to be roped into it. If she's not, if she wasn't doing it, why is she going to sit by and let somebody allege that she is? I mean, I agree, her reaction was over the top, but I think she's just had it with Whitney, had it. And Whitney too, what you got going on Whitney? You got nothing going on.

We Wine Whenever (35:05.416)
over the top, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (35:10.624)
Could be.

We Wine Whenever (35:11.917)
I don't.

Kelli (35:15.935)
You got no story line, so this is your, you know. Why don't these people show what's going on in their lives? If you don't have anything going on in your life, then maybe you shouldn't be a housewife.

We Wine Whenever (35:20.544)
Bye.

We Wine Whenever (35:26.848)
Very good.

We Wine Whenever (35:27.859)
Then she goes over to Justin and says, how do you deal with this? Your wife lies about everything. Justin's like, don't call my wife a liar. Yeah, don't call my wife a fucking liar. And then Seth starts to go towards Justin. John, that's what meant. John starts to go towards Justin, yeah.

Kelli (35:35.723)
He got aggressive.

We Wine Whenever (35:42.762)
Well, actually...

Kelli (35:42.827)
John.

Kelli (35:47.017)
We haven't seen Seth since the first episode.

We Wine Whenever (35:49.515)
No, we haven't.

We Wine Whenever (35:49.78)
Yeah. Actually, Lisa said fucking liar and then Justin repeated fucking liar.

Kelli (35:59.647)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (36:00.341)
So.

We Wine Whenever (36:00.769)
Right, right.

Kelli (36:05.385)
Yeah, I still think Jared walking in the room was more pivotal than Whitney and Lisa going at it. I just think Whitney's a joke. I don't care for her.

We Wine Whenever (36:15.86)
racist rant.

We Wine Whenever (36:19.651)
Well, we don't really know though what happens with Justin and John, because that's kind of where it ended. we may, like that may become something. You know what I mean?

Kelli (36:24.805)
No. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (36:27.2)
Yeah.

Kelli (36:29.257)
Yeah, yeah. I don't think they're gonna throw hands though. I don't think they're the type. If it were Jersey, glass would have been broken by now. Chairs would have been thrown.

We Wine Whenever (36:30.422)
Yeah, who knows.

We Wine Whenever (36:33.985)
I hope not. for sure.

We Wine Whenever (36:37.362)
yeah.

Yes. Tables flipped. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (36:40.631)
Yeah. So I'm, yeah. So we'll have to wait and see what happens with this episode.

Kelli (36:42.409)
Yeah. Tables flip.

We Wine Whenever (36:52.856)
I sent you girls something today about New York. Did you see that where Jessel was saying that during a cast trip, one of the housewives is shipped to another hotel. She used the word shipped. I don't know what that means. And one was put on a plane to go home. So I am so looking forward to that.

Kelli (37:08.075)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

y'all go home.

We Wine Whenever (37:14.478)
boy.

Kelli (37:17.097)
It's gotta be Uba and Brynn. Don't you think?

We Wine Whenever (37:20.2)
I don't know, we shall see. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (37:20.387)
Probably. yeah, probably. Probably. And then if it's Uba and Brynn, who do you think's going home? My guess is Brynn's going home and Uba's going to a hotel. Because Brynn is fight or flight and she's going home. I think Brynn would go home. Yep. Yep.

Kelli (37:24.319)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (37:25.44)
So.

We Wine Whenever (37:36.596)
Yes, she'll just shut down. She'll just cry and shut down. Yeah.

Kelli (37:42.111)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (37:44.182)
So I just wanted to put something out there. So that up in Adam, he said that opening scene, the conversation with Meredith and Whitney.

We Wine Whenever (37:44.505)
We'll have to wait and see.

We Wine Whenever (37:57.94)
happened way before the phone conversation with Adam was shot.

Kelli (38:05.973)
That's interesting.

We Wine Whenever (38:07.068)
Mm-hmm. But Meredith had been speaking to Adam about it the whole time, but I thought that was interesting. So, yeah, so who knows if that's true, but that's just what he said. So I thought that was interesting. And he also said that it's not gonna be revealed by the end of the season who the person is. And that Dana Wilkie was approached by Bravo. She wanted like, I don't know.

Kelli (38:13.459)
Right, because they're very friendly, right?

We Wine Whenever (38:36.648)
some number like $3,000 or something for some kind of footage that had to do with giving out the source of whoever it was and per her, the Bravo.

Kelli (38:49.151)
bet you it was more than three grand, dude. She's wearing $25,000 sunglasses. There's no way she's only asking for three grand. If she's got that smoking gun, she's asking for more than three grand. Mm-hmm, we dropped a zero somewhere.

We Wine Whenever (38:53.091)
Hehehehehe

We Wine Whenever (38:53.63)
Yeah, I don't know. That's the number that... Yep. That's how it was put out there. Yeah. And so per Dana Wilkie, it is a cast member, someone you would least suspect. So who knows?

We Wine Whenever (39:00.409)
Maybe it's 30 grand.

Kelli (39:14.645)
who put out the story?

We Wine Whenever (39:16.476)
Mm-hmm. Yep. And I had a thought. Yeah, I had a thought. know, so maybe whoever did it is really trying to get back at Lisa, not Whitney. Because yeah, it's gonna hurt Whitney's business, but you're also putting it out there that Lisa's doing something very nefarious. And another thing I wanted to mention is,

Kelli (39:19.487)
Wouldn't it be interesting if it were Heather?

Kelli (39:35.604)
Right.

Kelli (39:45.375)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (39:45.438)
A lot of times, places, wholesalers like the Alibaba, they could have the Alibaba's picture that looks the same as Whitney's picture. That picture could have been hijacked per Alibaba off of somebody else's legitimate website. And so Alibaba's putting that nice picture up of a legitimate product that someone else makes, but

We Wine Whenever (40:07.31)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (40:14.356)
when you order from Alibaba, it ain't gonna look like that. You know what I'm saying? Like they do that, they steal.

Kelli (40:15.157)
Right.

Kelli (40:19.711)
Right, they could have taken the picture from her website, from Whitney's website.

We Wine Whenever (40:23.798)
Absolutely. Yeah. And I looked on Whitney's website and she has a thing on like a disclaimer on her website that all her things, let's see, fine and semi-fine jewelry is designed in-house in Canada and US and produced in India.

our pieces are manufactured in a closely monitored environment.

We Wine Whenever (40:48.339)
Alibaba is in India, isn't it?

We Wine Whenever (40:51.488)
Though I think they're like a clearinghouse, but I think that they're, I want to say they're based in China, but I'm not sure. Like Alibaba sells stuff that all kinds of people make. They're just like a wholesaler source.

We Wine Whenever (41:07.23)
No, I know, like I've been on their website. just, for some reason, I thought they were from India, but it doesn't matter.

We Wine Whenever (41:14.686)
Yeah. So anyway, she's, she is saying it, Prism's fashion jewelry collections are curated from highly rated and ethically responsible design and production facilities overseas and are monitored and vetted by a third party sourcing business based in the United States. So I just thought that was interesting. So just those two things that the picture could have been hijacked and maybe somebody real, somebody's real agenda is,

Lisa. Lisa's downfall. I don't know.

Kelli (41:48.489)
Yeah. I mean, who would we least expect?

We Wine Whenever (41:53.462)
I don't know.

Kelli (41:53.513)
You would suspect Meredith, you would suspect Lisa.

We Wine Whenever (41:59.03)
And yeah, so no, no, Mary doesn't have time for that.

We Wine Whenever (41:59.1)
Mary doesn't have time for that.

Kelli (42:02.783)
doesn't like Whitney though.

We Wine Whenever (42:05.358)
No, she would not be playing that game. She's like I said, well, I don't know that they're friends, but they're not enemies. Her and Angie are friends. Angie wouldn't do that. I think the one we would least suspect would be Heather. I do think that that's who we would least suspect.

We Wine Whenever (42:05.674)
Aren't they friends now?

We Wine Whenever (42:10.05)
no, it's her and Angie are friends now. Yeah, no, her and Angie are friends now. Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (42:13.438)
or maybe it's Heather.

Kelli (42:24.299)
unless Angie was trying to get back at Lisa now, because why would she try to get back at Lisa?

We Wine Whenever (42:30.076)
It was Meredith that started the rumor.

We Wine Whenever (42:30.269)
I don't know.

Kelli (42:31.463)
Unless Angie was trying to get back at Meredith. Who knows? Who cares? Stop talking to bloggers, housewives. Just do your job.

We Wine Whenever (42:34.644)
Yeah, I don't know. Who knows? Yeah.

Yeah. and did you see when, Bron, I saw a thing where, I watched like an after show and Bronwyn says when, Justin.

We Wine Whenever (42:41.211)
It's very juvenile.

We Wine Whenever (42:57.178)
and Justin and, Seth were fighting that she was, very busy listening into a conversation about how Jared has a little dick.

was like, okay, prawn win. Yes!

We Wine Whenever (43:13.361)
What?

Kelli (43:15.029)
Wait, Justin and John were arguing.

We Wine Whenever (43:17.268)
Yes, and a job arguing. said she was busy listening. Yeah. Yeah. Isn't that funny?

We Wine Whenever (43:19.445)
my gosh.

Kelli (43:21.087)
Who was saying that? He was there.

We Wine Whenever (43:24.086)
I don't know, that's what Bronwyn was saying. So in the after show, was on an after show, a Bravo after show. So it was Mary and Angie, interviewing together, Meredith and Heather, and Lisa and Brittany. And Brittany was just so ass kissing to Lisa. It was horrible. It was horrible.

We Wine Whenever (43:28.954)
Where did she say this? it's an after show.

Kelli (43:48.639)
Yeah, she came in, I liked her at first, but she's wearing on me with this Jared thing, man, she's wearing on me. Hopefully she's watching it back and she's like, dear God, what was I doing?

We Wine Whenever (43:48.946)
Let's see

We Wine Whenever (44:01.172)
Yeah. And Whitney says that she, yeah, Whitney says that she contacted her lawyer for a cease and desist prior to speaking to Lisa at the party.

We Wine Whenever (44:02.468)
Yeah, but it's kind of too late now.

We Wine Whenever (44:17.002)
that was interesting.

Kelli (44:18.067)
Who are you sending a cease and desist letter to? You don't know who did it.

We Wine Whenever (44:22.374)
Whitney, well Whitney's, I'm just telling you what she said on this after show. That's what she said.

Kelli (44:23.891)
You don't know who did it.

Kelli (44:30.101)
She's just going with that Lisa did it and she's sending her the season to Cisla.

We Wine Whenever (44:33.459)
And that's it, I guess so.

Kelli (44:37.173)
Okay.

We Wine Whenever (44:37.974)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (44:39.716)
Which is fine. You send me a C-Synthesis letter, especially if I didn't do it. No problem. I'll C-Synthesis nothing, which is what I was doing.

Kelli (44:43.934)
Exactly.

Kelli (44:48.843)
Exactly. Okay. I won't talk about something that I wasn't talking about anyway

We Wine Whenever (44:49.236)
Right. Right.

We Wine Whenever (44:53.806)
No problem. Let's move on.

We Wine Whenever (44:54.134)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And Brittany, when she was talking to Lisa, said that she had a spreadsheet for her dates. So after her and Jared break up, she has a spreadsheet made out already and that she had 10,000 hits on Bumble. Bumble, sorry, Bumble. Bumble, yeah, Bumble. And 15,000, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (45:17.328)
I'm humble.

Kelli (45:19.211)
I'm like, is that a new one? So out of the loop, I am married.

We Wine Whenever (45:23.958)
and 15,000 on Tinder. So she would stack her dates at five o'clock, seven o'clock, and nine o'clock. And Lisa says, only in Provo can you do that.

Kelli (45:31.135)
Whoa.

We Wine Whenever (45:38.976)
So I was like, okay, okay with the spreadsheet.

We Wine Whenever (45:39.413)
my gosh, that's ridiculous.

Kelli (45:43.051)
Yeah, that's kind of, yeah, in 3D tonight.

We Wine Whenever (45:47.508)
Yeah. And Heather said, yeah, Heather said,

We Wine Whenever (45:49.52)
a lot. Sounds desperate.

Kelli (45:49.535)
Sounds exhausting. I go out to dinner and I'm ready for a nap.

We Wine Whenever (45:55.484)
Yes. Heather said, she asked, she said, is that like provided by like public health care, your spreadsheet? And where does it come from? She said, I don't see her, Brittany as a spreadsheet kind of girl, like an Excel girl.

We Wine Whenever (46:12.942)
And let's see. Heather. In regards to...

We Wine Whenever (46:13.156)
Who said that?

Kelli (46:13.643)
That's fine. Heather. I Heather's...

We Wine Whenever (46:16.162)
Now she's a... Britney's supposed to be Heather's friend, right?

Kelli (46:21.419)
Yeah, well, it sounds like Heather's a little salty maybe because she's not rocking three dates a night.

We Wine Whenever (46:26.245)
Hmm.

We Wine Whenever (46:26.442)
Yeah. And so also in this little after show, Lisa calls Jarrett's douchebag.

And Brittany says they've been broken up for the past, yeah, yeah, yeah. That they've been broken up for the last three months. That's what Brittany says.

Kelli (46:37.481)
Wow.

We Wine Whenever (46:38.65)
She's made that clear though, she said that from the beginning.

Kelli (46:42.047)
Yeah.

Kelli (46:49.151)
Brittany and Jared. Okay, so they're not together right now or as of the after show.

We Wine Whenever (46:52.094)
That's what, as of the after show, that's what she's saying.

Kelli (46:56.491)
We're gonna need her on Watch What Happens Live and get an update.

We Wine Whenever (47:00.11)
Yes, yes we do.

We Wine Whenever (47:05.36)
I wonder if Ronwin's husband bought that carpet at Watch What Happens Live.

Kelli (47:10.325)
We're gonna have to find out. I'm surprised Andy wouldn't have announced it yet. I feel like if they did take it, he would have said it by now.

We Wine Whenever (47:13.901)
I know.

We Wine Whenever (47:18.574)
Maybe they got outbid because it was a live auction.

We Wine Whenever (47:18.901)
you think.

Kelli (47:24.958)
Yeah, maybe.

We Wine Whenever (47:29.476)
I don't have anything else, do you guys have anything else?

Kelli (47:31.763)
I don't know, Laurie, you got anything else on there about the after shows?

We Wine Whenever (47:35.19)
Let's see, let's see, let's see. I don't think so, I think that was it.

think that was it. So the girls were definitely, girls were definitely bringing it.

Kelli (47:42.717)
All right, good job.

We Wine Whenever (47:48.18)
on Salt Lake City.

Kelli (47:49.545)
Yeah, was a good episode. It was a good episode. Like again, think Jared coming in, I never saw that coming. Him walking into that party.

We Wine Whenever (47:59.901)
No, not after she came in with Aaron.

Kelli (48:03.017)
Yeah, so that was a very nice surprise. Bravo. Bravo, bravo.

We Wine Whenever (48:08.042)
Yeah. Bravo, bravo.

We Wine Whenever (48:09.39)
Okay.

Kelli (48:11.007)
Good job. You stumped me.

We Wine Whenever (48:13.162)
So we shall see as the saga continues.

We Wine Whenever (48:17.659)
We will see.

Kelli (48:17.937)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (48:20.824)
Until next time, thank you for watching and listening to We Why Whenever. Please like us, give us five star reviews and share us. Bye.

Kelli (48:29.504)
Bye.

We Wine Whenever (48:30.521)
Bye.