Diamonds, Drama, and Dinner

 Diamonds, Drama, and Dinner

This Real Housewives of New York episode, titled "Match Point of No Return," weaves a mix of playful fun, tense conflicts, and deep personal moments. The ladies start with a chaotic, hilarious attempt at tennis, leading to a series of emotional reveals, lighthearted pranks, and underlying social tensions.

The spotlight shifts to Brynn, who feels sidelined and considers leaving. A heart-to-heart with Jenna (and the promise of wearing diamonds) convinces her to stay. Sai and Jessel discuss grocery prices in an unexpectedly relatable moment, and Ubah plans for motherhood, touching on Jessel's fertility challenges. The Shabbat dinner introduces Rebeca’s dual Jewish-Scientologist beliefs, fueling intriguing cultural exchanges. A prank with a fake cockroach results in hysterics and bonding, though it’s short-lived as heated debates around cultural sensitivity and respect arise, culminating in a tense exit by Brynn.

Takeaways

• A diamond is indeed a girl's best friend.
• Supermarket prices can be shocking for non-shoppers.
• Surrogacy can be a complex emotional journey.
• Cultural traditions like Shabbat are meaningful.
• Latex outfits can spark interesting conversations.
• The past had its own unique social scenes.
• Scientology's beliefs differ from traditional religions.
• Games can lead to unexpected revelations.
• Pranks can sometimes go awry in reality TV.
• Production can influence how events are portrayed. Friendship dynamics can be complicated during crises.
• Cultural backgrounds influence behavior and communication styles.
• Breastfeeding practices vary significantly across generations.
• Parenting roles often lead to misunderstandings between partners.
• Fashion choices can reflect deeper personal narratives.
• Conflict resolution requires understanding and patience.
• Authenticity is often lacking in reality TV portrayals.
• Trust issues can arise from past betrayals in friendships.
• Luxury spending habits reveal personal values and priorities.
• Production influences can shape narratives in reality shows.

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Transcript

We Wine Whenever (00:00.91)
So after Janet gives the diamonds to Brynn in her confessional, she says, you know, a diamond is their girl's best friend and they have healing powers and I 100 % agree with that. Next we see, Sy says to Jessel, when is the first time you went to the supermarket? Or the last time? When was the last time you went to the supermarket? Because those guys are out there. This was so funny. This was so funny. And I'll be honest with you.

Kelli (00:26.988)
was very funny.

We Wine Whenever (00:30.094)
I've never related to Jessel more than when she was in the supermarket and when she was cooking. Cause I don't go to the supermarket and I don't cook. So I mean, I was right there with you Jessel during this whole thing. So Jessel says, I literally never go. I says, all right, let's play a game. How much is organic milk? Jessel guess 650. The answer is $9. And side myths like that's high. Like she's never paid that much. Right.

Kelli (00:33.696)
Yeah, because you don't go.

Kelli (00:54.924)
Well, that's Hamptons, that's Hamptons. And Uwe said it, that we're in the Hamptons. I I buy organic almond milk. There's three ingredients in it, and I think it's $6. So Jessel was close.

We Wine Whenever (00:59.689)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (01:09.633)
Yes. So then the next one was avocado oil. Jess will guess $5. The answer is $16.

Kelli (01:16.958)
which again, that's high. I mean, I guess depending on what size the container is, but.

We Wine Whenever (01:19.724)
I would say so.

We Wine Whenever (01:24.627)
A dozen eggs, Jess will guess $11. The actual is eight. And I think our actual is five for a dozen eggs.

Kelli (01:32.908)
depends on what you get if you're getting organic, fresh, local farm.

We Wine Whenever (01:37.932)
Yeah, that is true. does depend. It does depend what you're getting. But in Howell, you can get them for $5 roadside. A dozen eggs. Yes. Yes, sir.

Kelli (01:42.602)
Yeah.

Kelli (01:47.286)
Really?

Well, that's what you were getting, right? It doesn't for five? Five dollars, Laura?

We Wine Whenever (01:51.687)
Yeah, that's And I have some, so if anybody needs them at the moment. I have eggs.

We Wine Whenever (01:54.848)
Yeah. Yes.

Kelli (01:59.057)
I'll take them.

We Wine Whenever (02:00.477)
Okay, good to know. So then Jessel says, do you know how much I'm paying for my frozen eggs? mean, embryos, a thousand dollars a month. Sy asked, do you pay per embryo? Yes, exactly. That's how she transitioned. And Sy said, do pay per embryo. And she's like, no, like she pays that for all that she has.

We Wine Whenever (02:10.121)
Speaking of eggs.

Kelli (02:13.301)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (02:25.651)
And she's like, well, you can put them in a surrogate because Jessel's conflicted about, you know, she really wants to have a girl. She really wants to have a girl. And we, saw that conversation with Pavett and he's just not ready. He's not ready.

Kelli (02:35.264)
Yeah.

Why would she use a surrogate, did she say?

We Wine Whenever (02:42.539)
I guess because she didn't say, she did not say,

Kelli (02:47.872)
I know people do it for a lot of different reasons. I just didn't know if she had said her reason, but Cy was totally into it for 250K.

We Wine Whenever (02:57.514)
Yep. Yep. And she even offered to carry two of them for that. I'll be honest with you. mean, if I wasn't old AF, I would do it for 250 K too.

Kelli (03:01.853)
Yeah

Kelli (03:09.812)
Me too, I was thinking the same thing if I wasn't as old as I am. Fuck yeah I would do it.

We Wine Whenever (03:14.922)
How about you, Lori, would you do it for 250K? Okay.

We Wine Whenever (03:14.973)
Me three. Me three. yeah. yeah.

Kelli (03:19.308)
especially if I could have another Schedule C section, like sign me up.

We Wine Whenever (03:23.977)
There you go.

We Wine Whenever (03:24.038)
Yeah. Maybe that, yeah. Listen, you're helping somebody and I don't know. I would definitely be into that. Anyway, that ship has sailed for us.

We Wine Whenever (03:33.961)
So, Uba, yeah, Uba says she pays $300 a month for her eggs.

We Wine Whenever (03:42.761)
So to keep, guess to keep her, yeah, that's what she said. Uba says she pays $300 a month for her eggs. Yes.

Kelli (03:43.642)
Uber?

Kelli (03:47.745)
I didn't hear her say that. I didn't know she had hers frozen too.

We Wine Whenever (03:51.485)
Yeah, cause she does say, on, get pregnant with me. And that's when Jessel's like, you know, pop is not completely on board, you know, and Jessel said she can't get pregnant naturally. So I don't know if, mean, I, you know, maybe she did carry the twins. I would imagine that she did, right? She did carry the twins cause she was talking about that. And maybe it just was too much for her that, you know, the next one she would have to get a surrogate or maybe she could.

Kelli (03:59.596)
So just those-

Right, right.

Kelli (04:12.224)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (04:20.604)
I mean Twins are a lot. mean you know that's a lot on your body. I mean two pee two two little nuggets in there

We Wine Whenever (04:21.33)
I don't know.

We Wine Whenever (04:26.025)
yeah.

We Wine Whenever (04:26.28)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (04:28.969)
Two peas in the pot is a lot.

We Wine Whenever (04:29.725)
Yeah.

Kelli (04:32.715)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (04:33.096)
But I get her mean I get that she doesn't want to get rid of those embryos because that's pretty much her only chance Those are her babies, you know

Kelli (04:36.524)
No. And how much does it cost to do that? So much money. And now you have them. move them, definitely move them to New York and save yourself $700 a month for sure.

We Wine Whenever (04:43.653)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (04:43.911)
Right. Right.

We Wine Whenever (04:52.271)
Yes, because she is paying Beverly Hills rate for real estate.

Kelli (04:54.732)
She's paying $1,000 and Uber's paying 300. I mean, save yourself some money. Bring them to New York, but you know.

We Wine Whenever (04:54.931)
crisis.

We Wine Whenever (04:59.463)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (05:01.959)
Who was it that asked? Was it Uba asked if you could put them in your refrigerator? I mean...

We Wine Whenever (05:06.951)
Yes. Yes.

Kelli (05:08.235)
If you can put it with your freezer, I'm so sorry, I don't mean to yawn.

We Wine Whenever (05:11.504)
That's okay, but Uba has them frozen, so why does she not know you can't put them in your freezer? I don't know.

We Wine Whenever (05:16.093)
I think students trying to be funny.

Kelli (05:16.299)
Right.

I think she was trying to be funny.

We Wine Whenever (05:20.967)
All right. But Jessel does say that she could never have Psy as her surrogate because then she would have to take the backseat and Psy would be running the show and Jessel could not have that happen.

Kelli (05:31.124)
Yeah, yeah, I couldn't do it. I mean, I shouldn't say that, I'm sorry. If I had to, I certainly would. Like Emily Simpson had her sister. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (05:34.715)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (05:42.8)
Sisters, yeah, I know. And her sister did it for both of her twins and her other child. Which I'm saying, that is such a selfless gift to give to somebody. Such a selfless gift. So then Brynn and Jenna decide that they're gonna go take a nap. The girls get back from the store and I said that watching Jessel in the kitchen and Brynn trying to help her.

Kelli (05:49.025)
Yeah.

Kelli (05:54.418)
Absolutely. Absolutely.

We Wine Whenever (06:11.511)
excuse me, Cy trying to help her. It so reminded me of me. Like I'm sure you, if you, if the three of us were in the kitchen, I mean, just the way she was peeling the potatoes, I would be peeling the potatoes wrong. You'd be, cause this is why I don't peel potatoes because Bill says you're peeling them wrong. I'm like, well, then you peel them. So if I'm peeling them wrong and you tell me how to peel them, I'm probably going to say, then you peel them.

We Wine Whenever (06:20.105)
It would be the same thing.

Kelli (06:23.274)
Yeah, right.

Kelli (06:29.397)
Right, right.

Kelli (06:35.168)
then you failed them.

Yep. Yep.

We Wine Whenever (06:39.333)
So I could totally relate to that.

Kelli (06:44.867)
my God, Aaron and Brynn and the Roach.

We Wine Whenever (06:47.93)
and that was hysterical.

We Wine Whenever (06:54.052)
So yep, they're talking about pranking the ladies.

Kelli (06:57.302)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (06:59.236)
It's funny that they're talking about that because it you it like these pranks don't usually go well Right, right. They don't use games and pranks for housewives usually do not go well. They usually take a turn for the worst

Kelli (07:05.76)
They don't.

Kelli (07:12.24)
nor do dinner games, but I will say Never Have I Ever is the only acceptable game for Housewives to play at the dinner table because that was a good game.

We Wine Whenever (07:24.029)
That was a good game. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (07:24.344)
Yeah, they did okay with it. I was surprised myself. Yes.

Kelli (07:26.473)
Yes, yes, because in the past games have not worked out well

We Wine Whenever (07:28.296)
I like-

Now, I like how Jessel was asking Jenna about her latex outfit and asked her if it was part of a truck at some point. Do you see that?

Kelli (07:43.03)
What the hell did that even mean?

We Wine Whenever (07:45.009)
Because it's probably like, it's recycled latex, it's rubber. So Jessa was like, at some point was that like a truck and then it got like recycled into the latex? You don't get it? Yeah, into latex, yeah.

Kelli (07:56.394)
Recycle.

We Wine Whenever (07:57.572)
into latex. Yeah. So I mean, Jenna with that latex and her boobs out like that. I mean, not anyone can pull that off, but I'll tell you what, she could pull that off. And even Brynn in her green slinky dress, that is a gorgeous green for Brynn.

Kelli (07:59.958)
Got it.

Kelli (08:10.89)
No. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (08:16.465)
I did not like that dress. I didn't like it. I didn't like it. Yes, but I don't like, I don't like the new.

Kelli (08:19.69)
I didn't either. I did, I love the color. I agree with you. The color looked great on her. Was not a fan of that dress.

We Wine Whenever (08:26.369)
I thought the dress was, I love the color, and I thought it was avant-garde. I thought Brynn could pull it off. I don't think everyone could pull, I mean, Uba could pull it off too. Uba could pull that dress off. But it was different. was different. I didn't hate it, I'll say that. And Jessel says this is her first Shabbat dinner ever. I did note that they're sitting down for dinner and it's 914.

Kelli (08:39.35)
I don't know. Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (08:57.184)
I mean, that's a little bit late. I get that's why Sy brought back the pizza after she was done shopping. Because she knew she wasn't eating dinner until late.

We Wine Whenever (08:58.279)
That's late. That's late.

Kelli (08:59.308)
That's what they do.

Kelli (09:05.662)
Yep. Yep, yep. Little snacky poo.

We Wine Whenever (09:11.713)
So then Brynn asked Jenna about the latex and she said she used to own a lot of latex because she used to date this guy who was a reporter for the New Yorker and he was doing a piece on sex clubs in New York. Now this is big news right here and she's talking about how she would go all over the city to the there's many back then there was many sex clubs in the city and that one of them was like this like dungeon in the downstairs sex dungeon.

There was a lot of watching, a lot of people getting naked, naked and a lot of public sex. This does not surprise me.

Kelli (09:50.302)
No, it doesn't surprise me either.

We Wine Whenever (09:50.698)
no. But the best was when Jessel said,

We Wine Whenever (09:53.523)
No.

Kelli (09:57.009)
where I want to visit but doesn't surprise me.

We Wine Whenever (09:59.569)
Yeah. The best was when Jessel was like, so like, they must've been secret. Like you don't go on, you never like went on Yelp to find out like, before you go, like, which is the best sex club? And Jenna was like, no, there wasn't, there was no internet. It's so funny.

We Wine Whenever (09:59.69)
Yeah.

Kelli (10:15.826)
No.

We Wine Whenever (10:16.57)
No, no, no, exactly. There was no internet back then. Right. Yes. Then Uba is the last one to come down. And then Erin is going to say the prayer. And she explains to us that it's usually done by the men. And she's saying it in Hebrew and she stumbles a bit. And then Rebecca finishes it, which I thought was a little odd. And then when Erin talked about it in her confessional,

Kelli (10:19.006)
right there was no internet it was word of mouth

We Wine Whenever (10:22.236)
I thought that was great.

We Wine Whenever (10:45.969)
It was even odd to me that she doesn't understand how someone can have two religions that are completely opposite.

Kelli (10:53.322)
I did not realize, she a prac, is she prac, does she practice Judaism as well as Scientology? Because, I mean, I don't know much about Scientology at all, but what Erin said was that they're two, they are two conflicting ideas. So I'm very open to, you know, other religions and people's beliefs, but I don't know if they're that different in beliefs, how you can be both.

We Wine Whenever (11:00.957)
you must.

We Wine Whenever (11:20.223)
Well, I think what it may be, and I could be wrong, but Minkoff is Jewish because we know Crystal Minkoff is Jewish and she's from Beverly Hills. Yeah. So.

We Wine Whenever (11:28.201)
And they are related. They are related. Yes, they are. Distantly, found out through 23andMe, but they are related in some way.

Kelli (11:29.374)
Are they related? They are? How are they related?

We Wine Whenever (11:37.342)
Through Rob, I guess, right? Right.

Kelli (11:38.816)
Well, yeah, obviously to her husband.

We Wine Whenever (11:44.478)
So I guess she was raised Scientologist, but she married someone who's Jewish. So, you know, I guess you... Yes, I would assume so, right? I would assume so.

Kelli (11:44.905)
Interesting.

Kelli (11:53.772)
So Minkoff is her married name.

We Wine Whenever (11:58.729)
actually, don't think so. no, because her father's, no, because her father's Dr. David Minkoff. So, but the deal was.

Kelli (12:00.716)
I don't know, she's a designer, so it depends on when she started designing. Like if she started designing before she got married.

We Wine Whenever (12:08.271)
It's not her married name. Okay.

Kelli (12:14.164)
Yeah, so she must have started designing before she got married.

We Wine Whenever (12:18.183)
Yeah. So the deal with Scientology is it's more of...

We Wine Whenever (12:20.551)
So then.

We Wine Whenever (12:27.761)
It's not necessarily a religion like you think of Islam or Christianity or Judaism. It's more of a thing where you're kind of taught almost that like you are the temple. Like you, they feel like if you reach a certain level in Scientology that you can actually like cure yourself and

So it's more like a more of like a mindfulness as opposed to relying on something other than yourself. You are the higher.

Kelli (13:04.886)
There's no higher power.

Right? Like there's no praying to a higher power.

We Wine Whenever (13:08.731)
There's no higher power.

We Wine Whenever (13:12.113)
No, because you are the higher power.

Kelli (13:14.068)
Right? Exactly. And that deal with healing yourself, know, allegedly, this is why Kelly, I forget her last name, but she was John Travolta's wife. You know, she died of breast cancer, Kelly Preston, and she from allegedly, allegedly was not treated.

We Wine Whenever (13:16.477)
You understand what I'm saying? That's just kind of how they roll.

We Wine Whenever (13:29.02)
Preston, Preston.

We Wine Whenever (13:38.077)
Well, I have a whole...

Kelli (13:38.717)
And his son, Jet, also, I don't know what the ailment he had, but whatever it was, allegedly was not treated because of their Scientology beliefs. That's what I've read. But again, allegedly.

We Wine Whenever (13:47.449)
Scientology beliefs. I have a whole rabbit hole on that Yeah, I have a whole rabbit hole on that but Kelly's tired. Yeah, but Kelly's tired. So I think we could skip it till the next Yeah

We Wine Whenever (13:54.299)
Do you have it now?

okay, no, I'm tired. I'm tired too. I'm tired too. 5.30 will be here very quickly. 5.30 will be here very quickly. All right, so we'll talk about that in another day. So then Erin says, it's, know, in her confessionals, she's talked about that, but she said to everybody, she said, it's a special time going into Passover and she was so grateful.

Kelli (14:01.177)
It's been a long day. Yeah, it's been a long day. Exactly.

We Wine Whenever (14:10.153)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (14:24.26)
that all of these ladies made the dinner and they were there with her for it. And I agree, like that is a very special thing. I've never been to a Shabbat. I've never been to a Passover dinner because I've never been invited, but I would love to experience it to be quite honest with you. I would be open to learning about it and other customs and traditions.

We Wine Whenever (14:40.573)
I've been.

Kelli (14:44.244)
Yeah, I've been as well. The Passover dinner is long because you read. I have, yes.

We Wine Whenever (14:46.301)
You have been killing.

I've only been to a Shabbat. Never to a Passover.

Kelli (14:53.854)
No, I've been to Passover with the reading.

We Wine Whenever (14:56.329)
Interesting. Cool.

We Wine Whenever (14:57.666)
Okay. Maybe I'll do the abridged version like the Shabbat.

Kelli (14:58.943)
long.

Yeah, Shabbat's probably good. Yeah. Because that's like an every Friday night thing, isn't it Shabbat?

We Wine Whenever (15:01.609)
There you go.

We Wine Whenever (15:06.845)
Yeah, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (15:10.682)
So then she's, go ahead.

We Wine Whenever (15:13.597)
No, it's okay. Good.

Kelli (15:19.04)
Somebody go ahead.

We Wine Whenever (15:20.602)
Brynn asks like what they're doing the next day and Erin says she has a chef coming over tomorrow and Brynn says what is he making and she said a lot of food.

We Wine Whenever (15:34.884)
And then Jessel looks over at Raquel and says, my God, your earrings, what is that? Are they a vagina? Where did that come from?

Kelli (15:44.019)
I don't know, but I didn't, I mean, did you guys see a picture? I guess, I guess.

We Wine Whenever (15:48.004)
I did not, I did not, I did not. No. Even Aaron's like, no, no. So that's when they then decide that they're gonna play the game, Never Have I Ever.

We Wine Whenever (15:50.077)
No. I got no vagina vibe.

Kelli (15:55.935)
I don't know.

We Wine Whenever (16:04.982)
And the first one was, never have I ever confused someone's name during sex. And Brynn's like, well, she did. And it was with Gideon. And she called him her first fiance's name.

Kelli (16:20.623)
my god. That's awful.

We Wine Whenever (16:24.228)
That's horrible!

Kelli (16:25.719)
my gosh, I don't know that's terrible. That's probably the worst thing you could do especially to a guy I Feel like we would take that much better than a guy

We Wine Whenever (16:31.3)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (16:35.39)
a hundred percent. And then she's like, I got off his dick and I said, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Well, not only did you do that to him, now you've just announced it on national TV and we met Gideon and actually I liked Gideon, right? We liked, we all liked Gideon. So, my heart breaks for Gideon. That's all I'm gonna say. That's all I'm gonna say. The next one was never have I ever seen my coworker naked.

Kelli (16:43.592)
Yes, you did. And we like them. Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (16:53.706)
Yeah, poor Gideon. He took a hit on that episode.

We Wine Whenever (17:03.138)
And Rebecca in her confessional says, well, her ex-boyfriend, he was a graphic designer and she moved to New York and she was desperate for help. So she hired him, but that doesn't count.

Kelli (17:13.14)
It does not count, Rebecca, stop it. No.

We Wine Whenever (17:15.138)
It doesn't count. then Brynn is trying to tell Erin that she did and Erin's like, her, like she did it with him before she worked with him. That one doesn't count either. Right?

We Wine Whenever (17:26.525)
Yeah, so on that whole Erin thing, so basically Erin was saying her business partner was her high school boyfriend.

Kelli (17:27.723)
now.

Kelli (17:38.091)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (17:38.466)
Right, right.

We Wine Whenever (17:38.793)
That's what she said. was like,

Kelli (17:41.856)
right now her current business partner. That's the way I heard it.

We Wine Whenever (17:42.425)
Yes.

Yes, yes.

Kelli (17:48.948)
So it was way before they were business partners that she saw him naked. Right. Doesn't count.

We Wine Whenever (17:54.589)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (17:57.69)
It doesn't count. And honestly, I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I mean, it was high school.

Kelli (18:01.843)
No, and by the way, girls, find some other people to be in business with.

We Wine Whenever (18:06.234)
Yeah. I mean, I think they're pretty successful.

Kelli (18:10.346)
Yeah, they are. I guess that was good choice after all.

We Wine Whenever (18:13.542)
The next one was never have I ever been flashed or flashed in public and Aaron's like I used to do it all the time. I mean.

We Wine Whenever (18:20.957)
Yeah, how do you like that? Uptown Girl, Uptown Girl Erin flashing for taxis. Interesting.

Kelli (18:21.772)
I must have a real party girl in my younger days.

We Wine Whenever (18:27.161)
Yep.

Kelli (18:27.26)
No. Well, they're, you know. Mm-hmm. Makes sense.

We Wine Whenever (18:34.358)
friend of mine, I will not name names, but they know who they are and she flashes and has flashed many times.

Kelli (18:40.938)
We definitely know who this is.

We Wine Whenever (18:42.562)
Of course you do. And listen, if you've got great tits, flash them, right? Right? And Erin said she was much bigger back then too. I guess she, was it children that ruined her boobs or yeah. Yes.

Kelli (18:48.406)
For sure. For sure.

We Wine Whenever (18:57.063)
Yes.

Kelli (18:57.076)
Yeah, I mean a lot of women when they breastfeed, even if you don't breastfeed, sometimes pregnancy just kind of deflates. Unfortunately that did not happen to me.

We Wine Whenever (19:04.269)
Yeah, yeah, ruinsome.

All right. The next one was never have I ever licked a butthole. What?

Kelli (19:15.382)
Who said that, Brynn?

We Wine Whenever (19:17.818)
I don't remember, but I would imagine it was Brynn. Jenna said, yeah, Jenna said I wouldn't, I would never. Erin goes to get, then Erin goes to get the fake cockroach. And Jenna keeps talking about her pavlova, this dish that she's making, her pavlova, pavlova. I had no idea what it was. She brought it out and I was like, it's a dessert. Like I thought it was, I don't know. I thought it was like an entree or something. I'm sure, I'm sure you guys knew it was.

Kelli (19:21.782)
She's like, she's getting a little Tamra-ish.

Kelli (19:45.106)
No. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (19:46.153)
No. Yep. Mm-hmm. Yep. I know. Yeah, it's like a meringue.

We Wine Whenever (19:47.788)
a dessert. You know, it looked delicious by the way. Which one of you, Lori, can you make a pavlova? Yes, that's what it said. It was like a meringue. Can we make a pavlova? Maybe we could do a tutorial on how to make a pavlova and put that on our story. Right?

Kelli (19:52.629)
It did.

Kelli (19:57.356)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (19:58.601)
I can certainly make one.

We Wine Whenever (20:05.161)
There you go.

There you go. Sure.

Kelli (20:08.428)
Sounds good.

We Wine Whenever (20:11.298)
Okay, so they go and get the cockroaches. They decide that they're going to put it in the pavlova because that's all that Jenna is talking about. And they're all eating it. It looks delicious. Jessel goes to take a bite and then all of a sudden she sees it and starts screaming. Then they all laugh. And then all of a sudden, Uba runs out and starts vomiting.

Kelli (20:36.01)
Yeah. And Cy runs after her and then she starts vomiting, which is exactly what I would do.

We Wine Whenever (20:40.945)
Now, I want to ask you this. Do you think that that was even real? I think that was produced. yes. I didn't see it. I think, yep, think it was produced. Yes, I do.

We Wine Whenever (20:44.697)
Okay.

We Wine Whenever (20:49.755)
The vomiting? no, that was real. You think they were not vomiting?

Kelli (20:53.1)
You think?

We Wine Whenever (21:00.408)
No, I don't think it was produced.

Kelli (21:01.452)
I put nothing past production anymore.

We Wine Whenever (21:05.329)
And anyway,

Kelli (21:06.026)
Because at the end of this, me, don't let me forget, Wendy, I just want to say something about Potomac that I saw before we end the pod.

We Wine Whenever (21:12.57)
Okay.

We Wine Whenever (21:12.873)
Okay. And why would you, why would they, why are you rushing into the bathroom when someone else is puking? What are you going to do for them? like, what are you doing? What are you doing?

Kelli (21:21.54)
I thought the same thing. They were literally all in the bathroom while she was throwing up. The smell alone makes me want to vomit.

We Wine Whenever (21:29.565)
I mean, I can handle puke.

We Wine Whenever (21:30.5)
Well, I think Sai went to check on Uber.

We Wine Whenever (21:33.449)
Yeah, but to check on her for what? She's puking. What are you gonna do? She's a grown woman. I'm sure she's puked many times.

Kelli (21:38.593)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (21:38.938)
Hold her hair. Hold her hair. That's what friends do. They hold their hair so you don't vomit on your hair. I guess that's when you're drunk and you don't know how to hold your own hair back.

We Wine Whenever (21:48.367)
Yeah, come on.

Kelli (21:49.056)
mean, listen, one person in there for sure. Five, not necessary.

We Wine Whenever (21:51.376)
you

We Wine Whenever (21:53.875)
But then you're, right, no, no. That and that was also a part of what led me to believe that it was produced.

I don't know, it was just off for me.

Kelli (22:06.742)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (22:07.096)
Alright, so then Erin runs in the bathroom and she's yelling, you're throwing up in my sink. Okay, who cares?

Kelli (22:16.106)
Yeah, well, it's either your sink or your toilet, so... Maybe they don't want to shove their face in your toilet. Yeah, so it is what it is.

We Wine Whenever (22:19.633)
No, the toilet was being used. No, Uba was in the toilet. That's why she had to go to the sink.

We Wine Whenever (22:19.759)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (22:26.84)
Right. Right.

Kelli (22:28.736)
Okay.

We Wine Whenever (22:31.002)
Then we go back to the table and I didn't immediately realize that Jenna put those plastic cockroaches on her nipples. At first I was like, what the fuck is going on with her nipples? That's what I thought at first.

We Wine Whenever (22:35.598)
Ew. Ew.

We Wine Whenever (22:40.999)
It was so gross. It was so cringy.

Kelli (22:41.046)
Me too. Me too.

We Wine Whenever (22:44.72)
And then it hit me. was like, my God, she just put those cockroaches on her nipples.

We Wine Whenever (22:48.733)
Ew.

I was grass. I was grass.

Kelli (22:52.268)
She did. That was gross.

We Wine Whenever (22:56.967)
And then she licked the cockroach.

We Wine Whenever (22:57.656)
And then Uba says she realized today that, yes she did, yes she did. Uba says today I realized that if I get pregnant and start throwing up, so I can't come over.

Kelli (23:00.704)
Yes, she did.

Kelli (23:07.508)
I can not come over. She's right.

We Wine Whenever (23:08.391)
No, no.

Kelli (23:12.62)
Yep.

We Wine Whenever (23:13.562)
So the next morning the doorbell rings and the chef and the baker comes over. I mean...

Kelli (23:18.956)
That breakfast looked so good. So good.

We Wine Whenever (23:22.852)
Yes.

How much you think that costs? Let's make a guess.

Kelli (23:29.45)
I mean, there were only what, seven of them?

We Wine Whenever (23:29.712)
Private Chef and Private Baker.

Kelli (23:34.282)
don't know, maybe like 350, 400.

We Wine Whenever (23:37.321)
Watch your head.

We Wine Whenever (23:38.009)
I think it's, I'm thinking, I'm thinking two grand.

We Wine Whenever (23:43.849)
Yeah, because you've got to figure out like how much

We Wine Whenever (23:44.664)
He brought all the food!

Kelli (23:44.828)
Well, maybe for them to be there. Yeah, I'm thinking like per person. But I guess if they come to the house, yeah, maybe a thousand.

We Wine Whenever (23:49.383)
You hammered your head.

We Wine Whenever (23:58.384)
I'm thinking, I'm thinking two to three grand. That's my guess. I'll look it up and see if I can find out how much it costs to get a private chef and a private baker to the house with all the ingredients. You are paying them both. Yes, you are.

Kelli (24:04.49)
Yeah.

Kelli (24:09.64)
I mean, you're not paying them both. I mean, first of all, first of all, she probably didn't pay them anything. They probably just came and did it because they were on the show.

We Wine Whenever (24:21.129)
Probably.

We Wine Whenever (24:21.641)
I think, I don't know, do we even know the name of that? I mean, we know his, yeah, we know his name, but we don't know like, yeah, she did.

Kelli (24:26.752)
to introduce them.

We Wine Whenever (24:27.113)
your company.

Kelli (24:30.518)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (24:31.141)
All right, we'll have to look into that. So then we see Rebecca's pumping her milk in the morning and Jessel asks how long you're gonna do it. And she said, the last one she did for three years. Three years.

We Wine Whenever (24:42.287)
No. No. No.

Kelli (24:43.884)
It's a long time.

We Wine Whenever (24:45.939)
She actually said until they can lift up my shirt and say no more, that's how long she will breastfeed.

Kelli (24:52.886)
I was happy to hear that she would at least cut it off at that point. And listen, no disrespect to anybody who does do that. It's just, I don't know.

We Wine Whenever (25:02.353)
It's not going to be me. That's all I got to say. That's, yeah, to me that's crazy town, but you do you.

We Wine Whenever (25:03.657)
It's a long time.

Kelli (25:06.006)
Not a big deal.

I'm not the one.

We Wine Whenever (25:12.499)
Honestly, I think it's a generational thing. think that Gen X, there was not a Gen Xer out there who was breastfeeding for three years. Let's be real. Who at time? I mean, we were freaking doing everything. There was no internet, there was no Uber, there was no DoorDash. I mean, we were not breastfeeding for three years. All right, I'm just gonna say that. On to the next rant.

We Wine Whenever (25:20.903)
now.

Kelli (25:21.418)
Maybe. Right.

Kelli (25:27.647)
Right.

Kelli (25:31.212)
Right.

Kelli (25:35.582)
You

We Wine Whenever (25:37.446)
what happens next? So then Jessel's on FaceTime with Povit and she's talking to him and Povit's like, it sounds like, you you're, you know, you're just getting up. Like, you know, it's so late and he's like, you're always sleeping. And then her son Rio is there and he says to Rio, what's, you know, who's always sleeping. And he says, mom's always sleeping. I like her would have been pissed off.

Kelli (25:53.853)
my god.

Kelli (26:06.826)
Yeah, she seemed upset over that. I mean, I thought it was funny, but when it's you, like, you don't want to hear that. You don't want to hear your kids say that.

We Wine Whenever (26:09.192)
Yeah, that's...

We Wine Whenever (26:15.44)
No. No. No.

Kelli (26:19.668)
And I'm a napper, so my kids probably thought the same thing about me, but...

We Wine Whenever (26:23.985)
Yeah, but even still he was kind of like, owe me, like I'm doing you a favor because I'm watching the kids. Well, they're your kids too, Povit.

Kelli (26:31.904)
Yeah, but you know what? Think about the guys in your life. They always think, they always have that mindset. Like, I have to watch the kid. What do mean you gotta watch the kid? They're your kids. You have the kids because I'm not home.

We Wine Whenever (26:33.673)
I know.

I know.

We Wine Whenever (26:42.173)
Yeah, right, right.

So then Jessel asks Jenna if she can try on her engagement ring. my gosh, that was gorgeous, that engagement ring.

We Wine Whenever (26:55.773)
Yes. Beautiful.

Kelli (26:57.327)
yeah, that was beautiful.

We Wine Whenever (27:00.169)
Then they all come down for breakfast and Rebecca said, I thought we were all eating in pajamas. I must've missed the memo. And then Brynn kind of threw a shade at her. She said, well, you have two suitcases, Rebecca. She's like, yeah, but I've only used like, you know, half of one suitcase. I thought this next thing was a little odd because Brynn whispers to her and is like,

When I say things like this, you can push back and say like, I have a clothing brand and you sold sweatshirts at BravoCon. Like when she's talking to Brynn, did Brynn's, Brynn sold sweatshirts at BravoCon?

We Wine Whenever (27:32.349)
Who was she talking about? have never endowed. Who was she talking about? Who is it that sold sweatshirts? A Bravo Con.

Kelli (27:32.491)
Yeah.

Kelli (27:40.972)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (27:41.039)
It sounded to me like she was talking about herself. Cause she's saying, cause Brynn is the one who gave her shade for it. And she's telling her like, you can push back and say, well, I have a clothing brand. You sold sweatshirts at BravoCon. So I'm thinking it had to be Brynn selling sweatshirts, but what did her sweatshirts say? I don't even know.

Kelli (27:59.584)
Yeah.

probably something that she said, something about dating your dad.

We Wine Whenever (28:05.222)
Yeah, probably. And she said, you know, give it back, Queen. Like, give it back to me. And Rebecca's like, that's not who I am. Like, that's just not what I do. I just thought that was very odd.

Kelli (28:17.888)
Yeah, like stop trying to produce, Brynn.

We Wine Whenever (28:20.334)
Yeah. Yeah.

it's not in my nature.

And then Brynn said, bitch, you're not gonna last long. Bitch, you're not gonna last long. No, actually, bitch Brynn, you're not gonna last long.

Kelli (28:38.73)
Yeah, she better watch herself. She needs to, I know me too, I know, I know. She's gotta, she's definitely, she definitely has to like simmer down, simmer down.

We Wine Whenever (28:40.57)
And I like Brynn. I wanna like Brynn.

We Wine Whenever (28:49.414)
She really does.

We Wine Whenever (28:52.071)
Now, I have a question.

We Wine Whenever (28:53.296)
Then we

We Wine Whenever (28:55.891)
I have question. So when they were talking and Uba was talking and Uba said in regards to Brynn, she said, see, she side-checked me. What is she, do we know what she means? She kept saying that.

Kelli (29:11.276)
Well the side piece, the side chick isn't the main girl in your life. It's the, you know, it's your, it's your gmod. It's the side piece. What was she saying in reference to? forget.

We Wine Whenever (29:21.609)
Yeah, but she was saying it in regards to Brynn. She was saying she's side chick mate. And I was like, what is she talking about? I don't know. Maybe you guys watch it again and you can tell me, because I had no clue what she was talking about. Might be just some oobism.

Kelli (29:37.686)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (29:40.397)
well let me look.

We Wine Whenever (29:44.973)
No, side, no, sidekick. This is what it was. Okay, so the last night, like the night before, Erin pulled Uba into the room with her and Brynn. And Uba said, like last night she went to their room, and so that her and Brynn could resolve the issues. And they hugged and they said that they love each other. And Brynn says, I have to stop cutting you off. And Uba says, Brynn sidekicks me. And Brynn said, you dropkick me. So she was saying like,

Every time I say something, you sidekick me. And then Brynn's like, well, then you drop kick me. Brynn says, listen, sidekick, sidekick. It was sidekick. Yeah. So then Brynn, yeah. So Brynn says she doesn't want her to come off as an, this is where it went wrong. She says she doesn't want her to come off as an angry black woman. Now I get it.

We Wine Whenever (30:18.788)
sidekick. I thought it was chick.

Kelli (30:21.737)
Not chick.

We Wine Whenever (30:23.827)
Sidekick, I get it now.

Kelli (30:35.581)
This was not a good moment for Brynn.

We Wine Whenever (30:38.702)
I get it because listen, Brynn thought she was looking out for Uba, because then even Erin tried to interject and Brynn wasn't hearing it. And Uba says, don't tell me how, hold on, next page.

We Wine Whenever (30:54.355)
to behave how to behave. Don't tell me how to behave.

We Wine Whenever (30:57.464)
Yep. Right. Don't tell me how to behave. English is not my first language, which is true. English is not her first language. So when she does say things like sidekick and her words are not always what we expect. Right. So she's crying and begging her not to be condescending because that's what she doesn't like about Brynn. Like just be right. Don't call her angry.

Kelli (31:04.31)
Right. Right.

Kelli (31:15.169)
Right.

Kelli (31:21.29)
and don't call her angry.

We Wine Whenever (31:25.72)
Don't call her an angry black woman. Don't give her that title.

Kelli (31:27.648)
Right, she keeps bringing up the stereotype. Like, come on.

We Wine Whenever (31:30.775)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (31:34.466)
And Brynn says

We Wine Whenever (31:36.979)
think the deal with Brynn is she just, it's a defense mechanism. She just really wants to hide from her blackness. She wants, she operates.

We Wine Whenever (31:37.848)
Go ahead.

We Wine Whenever (31:50.156)
No, she doesn't want to hide from it. She wants to own it. She wants to own it. She wants to own her blackness.

Kelli (31:51.668)
I don't think

We Wine Whenever (31:55.753)
See, I see it the other way around. see it that Brynn operates as if she's white. She really doesn't... I don't feel like she embraces her blackness or anything, and I feel like that's part of the... That's kind of what she was projecting onto Uba. Like, because I think that's part of her defense mechanism from being brought up as a biracial child by a white...

person. She, you know what I mean? Like she, yeah, and she, I don't think she meant that in the way that it came across. I think she meant it because it was coming from her own self of, know, almost like don't be too black. And I'm not saying that black women are angry. I'm just saying that's a, that's something that has, we've talked about before, but I just think she was doing it like,

Kelli (32:28.032)
Yeah, she was raised by the white side of her family, right?

Kelli (32:55.414)
Well, it's a bad stereotype, obviously, that we've all learned. You you just don't, you don't put that out there.

We Wine Whenever (32:57.929)
Yeah, but I think Brynn was doing it, say it, right, but I think Brynn was doing it from a position of where it's like this built-in defense mechanism for her, like, don't be two-block. That's how I saw it.

We Wine Whenever (33:16.132)
I I hear what you're saying, but the fact that we know that Brynn felt most at home and most connected to her black heritage every Saturday when she spent the day in the hair salon with all the black people getting her hair done, not her actual family, right? And we know that Uba grew up in another country that was predominantly black and, you know,

We Wine Whenever (33:33.319)
Yes, you did. Yes, you did.

We Wine Whenever (33:45.262)
their fight was for food, you know, and just survival. So I just think she's having a hard time relating that their experience as being black is not the same black experience, you know?

Kelli (33:59.734)
Who do you think's trying to get that across? Uber, not Brent.

We Wine Whenever (34:04.6)
I think that Uba is saying, English is not my first language. Don't tell me how to behave because I'm behaving how I feel appropriately to behave. Like you and I did not grow up the same way. Just because you're black and I'm black doesn't mean that what I'm doing is the same as what you're doing. That's how I was taking it. And

Kelli (34:19.969)
Right.

Kelli (34:28.992)
Yeah, I do agree though, don't think that, yeah, and I, cause I don't think that Brynn embraces that side, but I guess it's difficult when you weren't raised, you know, when that side of your family wasn't.

We Wine Whenever (34:30.045)
And I'm sure it's a combo of both.

We Wine Whenever (34:48.211)
Well, this is a thing, you grow up and you identify with something. And she grew up, besides those Saturdays, in a mostly white environment. So you become accustomed to chameleoning yourself into that. And I think because she's done that for so long, that she just saw that as, to her, was like a red flag. I don't know. Just, there's a whole lot going on there with...

Kelli (34:49.206)
around.

Kelli (35:05.217)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (35:17.747)
Miss Brynn.

Kelli (35:21.344)
Yeah, I agree with that.

We Wine Whenever (35:21.486)
There's, yes, there's definitely a whole lot going on with Brynn, but I don't want Brynn to be able to use all of these things as excuses because let's be honest, Psy did not have an easy upbringing. Jessel's probably wasn't as traumatic as she thinks it was, but we just heard Raquel's, we just heard what happened with Raquel's upbringing, you know? So don't use this as an excuse. Like, who was to...

Kelli (35:35.383)
Mm-mm. No. No.

Kelli (35:43.978)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (35:51.264)
I don't think we've seen the real, no, I don't think we've seen the real Brynn yet. I don't think anything that Brynn's put out there yet on this show in two seasons is the real her at all. Like you asked last week who we thought was the most authentic, I think she's the most inauthentic of this crew.

We Wine Whenever (35:51.266)
Ooba didn't grow up in an ivory tower.

No.

We Wine Whenever (36:10.704)
I agree. I agree. 100 % I agree.

We Wine Whenever (36:15.113)
But I think it's.

Kelli (36:15.264)
That's why she's, it's like Tamra, she's stirring the pot so much because she doesn't, what is her story? We know nothing about her other than her brother.

We Wine Whenever (36:25.799)
I don't even think she knows herself, which I think is part of the problem. I think she's just existed and operated. Sure. And therapy. So maybe she needs to get the two for one deal with Psy, the therapist.

Kelli (36:29.898)
Maybe you're right. Maybe you're right. And that does come with age and maturity, but.

Kelli (36:39.231)
Yeah.

Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (36:45.56)
And the problem, the other problem is that, know, Brynn wants Uba to accept her for who she is, but she's not accepting Uba for who she is. not, it's, she wants what she's not giving, you know? And Uba gets very frustrated. And I do think it, I do think a language barrier is a part of it because she wants to tell her exactly how she feels, but she always feels like Brynn is condescending to her. And that is what

Kelli (37:02.016)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (37:14.702)
bothers her the most. Like, don't talk down to me. I feel like she's saying, like, don't talk down to me, bitch. Like, don't tell me how to behave. You are not my mother. Who are you to tell me what to do? They didn't resolve anything. They both left upset. Brynn's crying. They're trying to tell Uba to let Brynn talk, but Uba's over it.

Kelli (37:28.481)
Right.

Kelli (37:33.065)
now.

Kelli (37:41.088)
I do think that everybody, because afterwards Brynn's like, you're all sitting there with your thumb up your ass, not even like sticking up for me. I do think most of them tried to get Uba to stop talking and let Brynn talk. I think that was unfair of Brynn to say to them. Like nobody's sticking up for me. But they were trying to get her to calm down.

We Wine Whenever (37:54.697)
They did.

We Wine Whenever (37:58.269)
Yes. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (38:04.025)
They were absolutely trying to get her to listen to Brynn, but she didn't want to listen to Brynn.

Kelli (38:06.408)
Yeah. But listen, I'm like, Uba, you lose my trust. You're never, you're never getting it back. Ever, ever, ever, ever. So I get where Uba's coming from. Like, yeah, I'll be on the show with you. I'll be cool with you on the show, but that's that circle of trust. know, you're not in my circle anymore. You're out of the circle.

We Wine Whenever (38:34.786)
Yeah. I guess we're to have to wait and see how it plays out because we do know by the way the season started that Uba and Brynn are not in a good place when the season ends. And I mean, I, I don't know. And you know, in the, in the very beginning, Uba did say what really upset her about Psy was not that she outed Oliver. It's that she betrayed Psy.

Kelli (38:44.628)
No, that's right. That's right. Something major must happen.

We Wine Whenever (39:02.37)
Like that's what upset her about Brynn so much.

Kelli (39:05.612)
I don't know if I believe that.

We Wine Whenever (39:07.764)
I kind of do because she still is very close with Sai. and- Uba and Sai are very close.

Kelli (39:13.598)
Yeah, but I don't, think that, I think if it were about somebody else and not about Uba's boyfriend, I don't think Uba would be so jacked up about it. I think she would still have these feelings, like you, you know, that's the word I'm looking for. You know, you, yeah, you betrayed Sai and she's my good friend, so I feel a certain way about you, but I don't think she'd be so jacked up if it didn't have to do with her.

We Wine Whenever (39:23.113)
true.

We Wine Whenever (39:33.196)
You betrayed my trust.

Kelli (39:42.504)
outing the fact that she had a boyfriend in Connecticut and she was adamant about that not getting out.

We Wine Whenever (39:48.248)
But the thing is Brynn is doing it to all of them. She's doing it to Jenna. She's doing it to Erin. Brynn is doing it to all of them. And Uba is the one who is calling Brynn out for doing it to all of them. Nobody else, mean, yeah, Erin calls her out for the stuff she's doing to her, but Uba is calling her out for the stuff she's doing to everybody. And I think that's where the disconnect is. Because when they're trying to tell Uba to listen to Brynn,

Kelli (39:50.828)
Absolutely.

Kelli (40:00.018)
Mm-hmm, right

Kelli (40:06.432)
Right.

Kelli (40:09.885)
everyone.

We Wine Whenever (40:18.08)
It was like, I'm not listening to her. Like you don't, you guys don't even see what's happening. Like I'm, am I the only one who sees what's happening? You're telling me to listen to her? What does she have to say? She did this to you. She did this to you. She did this to you. I'm not going to take it. That's how I see it.

Kelli (40:22.144)
Right.

Kelli (40:30.913)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (40:34.12)
Yep.

We Wine Whenever (40:34.519)
I don't know.

Any more thoughts on New York?

We Wine Whenever (40:39.495)
Well, I did watch a little Bravo thing on, it was luxury splurges. So they interviewed the girls and it was like a high-low thing. So for handbags, is there anybody, so I'm gonna give you the names, Jessel, Jenna, Brynn and Sy. Who do you think would go low on the handbags?

We Wine Whenever (40:44.322)
Okay.

We Wine Whenever (41:07.672)
or Jessel.

We Wine Whenever (41:07.814)
It's spending.

who would be low.

Kelli (41:12.992)
I say Jessel.

We Wine Whenever (41:14.825)
So Jessel was high, she spends high. Jenna was low. Brynn was low and Sy was high. Thought that was interesting. Yeah. yeah. No. Yeah. Isn't that interesting? So then they had hair and glam. So Erin was high, she spends on it. Raquel said,

We Wine Whenever (41:15.138)
Cheso.

Kelli (41:26.892)
Wow.

We Wine Whenever (41:28.194)
I thought the opposite. thought for sure Jenna would be high. I thought Brynn would be high. I thought that's so funny. Yep.

Kelli (41:29.696)
Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (41:45.245)
low on the haircut. She said, I get hair put in, not hair taken off. And she spends high on glam. Uba said she's low on glam. She says, I just use banana peel. So I guess she puts banana peel on her face. And Brynn, yeah. Brynn said high on the hair, but low on the glam. Now water, this was a funny one.

Kelli (42:06.163)
she's doing is working.

We Wine Whenever (42:07.426)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (42:14.813)
how they spend on water. Uber was funny. She's like, hi, definitely high. She said, I used to have to walk for miles for that shit. I'm spending money on it. Yeah. So everybody was high for water. Everybody was high for bedding. Sunglasses. Brynn was high. She said she's lost about $10,000 worth of sunglasses in the past two years.

We Wine Whenever (42:24.598)
Yes.

Kelli (42:25.196)
Mmm.

We Wine Whenever (42:44.201)
Jenna says she spends nothing because she has some hookup with this company called Zeta that gives her all her glasses. And then Erin was funny. She's like, Erin was like high and low because I'll buy some, sometimes that are high end, but she goes, most of the time you can go to Saks on fifth and get them at half off. This is really funny. So let's see.

We Wine Whenever (42:45.201)
my goodness.

We Wine Whenever (42:55.255)
Nice.

Kelli (43:10.028)
Hmm.

We Wine Whenever (43:16.843)
undergarments. Brynn says you have to be wearing them. Uba was funny. She said hi because she said the cheap ones are itchy. And Sy was funny. Sy was like, hi, hello. She goes, I like to go to Paris and buy lots of nice lingerie. She goes, but then for the everyday panty, like I'm thinking like four for $28.

That was really funny. Yeah. So she was a mix of the high love. Yeah. But that was a cute little thing that I saw.

Kelli (43:46.666)
Yeah, good old Victoria's Secret. Semi-annual sale.

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was fun. So next time I'll get, yeah, next time I will get into the whole Dr. David Minkoff, Rebecca's father, Scientology Saga. Yes, that'll be for, that'll be for next time. But it's a whole thing.

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That is fun.

Kelli (44:07.894)
And that's Rebecca's dad.

Kelli (44:12.236)
All right, looking forward to it.

We Wine Whenever (44:12.522)
Okay, that will be interesting. Kelly, you wanted to mention something about Potomac?

Kelli (44:16.714)
Yeah, of course I can't find it now, but Mia put out a post and basically saying that.

G is Jeremiah's father. Her children have their father's last name and that is Thornton. And production was behind that whole scene. And of course, should have taken a screenshot and I didn't, but I just looked on her Instagram and it's gone. I don't know where she posted it. I'll look to see if I can find it. But I thought that was real interesting. She said, my children have their father's last name, which is Thornton.

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Oak.

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That is.

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Good for her. Good for her.

Kelli (44:56.148)
So yeah, basically, production was doing her dirty during that scene, which we thought anyway.

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Kelli (45:15.232)
Bye.